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MEMORANDUM
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Senior Citizen Commission
FROM:Sharmin Al-Jaff, Planner I
DATE:November 15, 1991
SUBJ:Senior Commission Goals for the year 1992.
On October 18, 1991, The Senior Commission requested that staff
prepair a list of goal and objectives for the commission to persue
next year. Staff has prepared a list of. possibilities for the
commission to review. This list include the following:
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A Senior Directory which couldinclude.the following
catagories:
a. Legal assistance
b. Transportation
c. Medical assistance
d. Nutrition
e. Chores
f . Housing
g. Financial assistance (fuel, weatherrization, etc.)
h. Recreation
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Employment
Volunteering
Case management coordination
Information and Referral
Support Groups
Defensive Driving
County based services
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MEMBERS PRESENT: Barbara Montgomery, Betty
Kubitz, and ,Sherol Howard
Bernice Billison and Emma st. JohM
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STAFF PRESENT: Sharmin AI-Jaff, Planner I and Jer~y R~egemer. Recreation
Sl;Jpervisor
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APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Chairwoman Montgomery noted the
includesn item 10, Other.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Chairwomanl"lontgomery noted approvcH ofthe,Mi nutes
of the Senior Commission meeting dated October 18, 1991 amend~d to change
Betty8ragg'$ name from Barbara Bragg.
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Al~Jaff: Last month's me~ting you requested that I prepare a lisE for
goals and objectives for the Commission to pursue for 1992. f made a short
11st and if youwa nt to add anything to it, please go ahead. Oneef the
items was a senior directory for types of services that are available for
the city of Chanhassen. I have been working with Julie Behtz from Senior
Line and, she was supposed to'be heretoday~ t don't know what happened.
I,gave her all, the infor'mation that we have for types of servicesa.vailable
fbr Carver County and she is going to combine it with what's a~ailable from
Hennepin. She also mentioned that shel,lJouldh$.ve somebody from her staff
design the directory for us and we would have to ~ut together the funds for
it,to bepubllshed. It would keep us on their,systems to where whenever a
phone number, would change or any type 'of new agency lrJould be created, they
would add it to this list and then we can update our directory on a yearly
basis. I did' pu~ a few categories and \1 was wondering ,if that is What
you'd like to look at as type of ~ervicesthat would be/outlined in the
di rectol"Y or if there ore thi ngs that you feel are not important, then we
can take them 00t. If there are certain categories that you would like ~o
add toi t, then we can do that too but right, now v.Je' re in' the information
col1ecting~tage.
Montgomery: That reminds me too. If any of YClU brought any materials that
you have gathered last July I think it was, that you want. to give/to
Sharmin,be sure to leave it with her.
Heinlein: I've got what 1 have but I'm going to call Southwest Metro. I
wasn't able to, I didn't bother Tuesday or yesterday because of all the
weather problems that they were having Tuesday and then Wednesday and bad
for the driVing. Atiyway because I got that peYsonally a~d Iim still ~rying
to figureout, that accident happened and I finally lrJoke up to the .fact
last night that that woman was in the wrong lane also because she was
behind the bus twas on and that was in the wrong lane. '
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l"lontgomery: This was an accident that Selda experienced
Dial-A..;.Ride.
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At TH 5 and TH 101. The bus Dr iver knew nothing of this
He couldn't find my house. He had one woman on the bus besides
myself and so we went. ~~ell instead of, staying to the right as he was
going to turn onto TH 101, he went right on the left side. Well there's a
big semi trying to come at us/around the corner. So he slowly started to
backup. He didn't see all}'body hI back of him. The woman,did not blow her,
horn until scrunch .He was so frustrated. I felt SO sorry ,for hi.rn. He
had just gotten the .job. , Asa 'resul t we all sat over at' Amoco . She
finally moved over to one side a~ay ffom him so he could pullout. The
truck was waIting for him to pullout. We got over to Amoco. and then' we
sat there. ~~aited. The Deputy Sher iff came. iThe State Trooper Came.
Nobody was hurt. It was .just the idea, I expected to be in Eden PrairLe
Center before 20 after 10: 00. ' Something like that. It was 10 ,mi nutesto
11:00 when I got there. And then going back home, I got the ride around
the vicinity from, I went to Chaska. I went allover bue to Chanhassen by
the time I got home soI'm going to get Dennis on the phone and I'm g6ing
tof i nd out just what in the world I'm supposed to do to get home wheTl I
(AJanttogethome, What time I have to leave in the morning in order to get
there. ~md I want to find out too if 1: co. nget over to To. y"get that morning
of Dec$mber the3rd b~twe~n 8:30 and 9:00 but I thought there might be
changes in their policy.
Montgomery: Selda, ITIay I interrupt just for aisecond. I think maybe
that's something we need to get back to is if we need to pursue something
with transportation but I'd ~ort of like to ~tlckto what Sharminis
1 isti nghere.'
Heinlein: Yeah I know but I figured this stuff, maybe there's been changes
in- their fares and things like that and I'd like to get moreinfor~ation
from Dennis before I give you everything that have.'
That would be great.
Because yesterday I was outmost of the day.
8ragg: I'd just like to add that I thinktransportatidn is still
our miin ptoblems.
Montgomery: I think we really need to get.. .and really work
agree with that.
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AI-Jaff: So maybe you want that to be one of your objectivesfdr1992?
Montgomery: I think so.
AI-Jaff: Better transportation. " Maybe ~.\Je can work closely with Southwest
Metro. We can invite Diane Hay"vetz the administy"ator forth~
transportation system over and discuss this lssuewi th hey"e and" see what
her thoughts are on this/matter. Or maybe we ban combine the goals of the
Senior Commission with the goals of Southwest Metro Transit. 8ecausethey
are working on their goals right now as well.
e Bragg: Let's do it. I think it's one of our number one priorities.
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Montgomery:
I thin~ so too.
I really do.
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AI-Jaff: .' Okay, I will contact D1ane.once we're done today. . So
comfortable with the categoTies outlined here or would you like
them? Would youl~ke to go through ~hem individually? .
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Yeah, why don't you list
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with senior
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to see you have it second on your list.
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Montdomery: Are these in any kind of order Sh~rmin?
AI-Jaff: No. Random.'
them.
Montgomery: That's what I was thinking.
Al~Jaff:This list is fOT the Director.
Montgomery: Right. That's nota concern about
that is something we couldGse to pTior1tize~ j
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Al-Jaff~ Okay. Transportation would be just what's. available for
o~Chanhassen as:farasitransportation. For ihstance fhe CART,
Dial-a-Ride, Southwest MetrO.
Heinlein: Southwest Metro is connected with Dial-a-Ride
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Correct. I meant the buses that go to Minneapolis. If
got~ Minneapolis.
Heinlein: There's only!, where did I read, thete's only in the morning arid.
in the evening. . That's all.
There's a lot of shoppi ng down ther!?.
No, but I mean they go early enough so it's too early for shopping
Ai-Jaff: Cbtrect. In the morning you go to Minneapolis.
entire day there and then you can,eome back at night.
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Kubitz: That's for the worki~g people. That isn't for
Rugeme~: Ohyeah. I g~ess what do they get oGt of Chanhassen
or earlier?
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The last bus I believe leaves at 7:40 or 7:30.
Somewhere around
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Montgomery: Long shopping day.
AI-Jaff: Youarr i vei n .Mi nneapolis about 8: 30 and you. si tat 3' cafe and
enjoy a cup of coffee. .Third item, is medical, and I think that speaks for,
itself. Nutrition. Ch6res and that's close to the HOME program. Housing.
Financial assistance such as fuel, weatherization. Recreation~ That's
where Park and Recreation gets involved or what's available in the area.
For instance the Dinner Theater would be listed I assume in there.
Employment. ,If a senior citizen would be interested in hav ingaparttime
job'. Volunteeri ng. Be ' it services catered to: the seniors or the senior
volunteering their servibes~Case management.' Everybody on the commission
is familiar with that. Information and referral. Probably United Way
vJould be listed. Support groups; fUcoholism.. Physical abuse. So on and
so fo~th. Defensive driving. County based services. If you're in C~r0er
County, these are the~types of services available to yo~. Compan~ollshi~~
'Yes.
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Kubitz:. Under companionship I don't kno~J .whether it goes in 'support group
or ~ompanionship but some of the cente~s do have a call~in program for
those, home bound. And so they get a call once a day, to see how they are
and so forth.
So you want that one combined?
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Kubitz: I don't know whichwa~ that'would
group but it kind of falls into both. But
homebound people.
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Heinlein: I believe the senior group here has!6ne that d6es call members
to check on. Dorothy and I can't off. hand remember her name. I guess I'm
getting old or something but she does call, especially those she knows are
laid up or something like that.. Or haven 'tbeen to meetings,.
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Maybe you could find out and let Sharmin know what
Heinlein: Yeah. I'm sure that she does becau~e she always has something
to say at the,meetings if so and so is ill or they're not there. We had a
very good turnout yestefday. I was, surprised.:
Montgomery: Sharmin, where YOU have county based service. Will that be .
~eferenced into the different categories of services that they
Correct.
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Kubitz: Is that just Carver or daesthat inclUde Hennepin?
AI-Jaff: What's available in Hennepin for Carver?
Yeah.
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AI-Jaff: I gave Julie Bentz. She .came to
about 4 hours discussing the directory and
that'we have on tarver Cqunty.
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Heinlein: I was going to s~y, I have this one here.
AI-Jaff: Yea~, I gave her a copy bf that. And she was really pleased.
She said one of th$ ~robrems they have is they don't have enough
information on Carver County as she would like ~o learn more.
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Montgomery: Do you think you had ~llthe information' that Margaret
has coll~cted? Apparently she has quite ~ bitiand that's included
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past year.
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I gave her that 'list. I really gave ,her everything that
County. Everything that we've collected up to date. from our
Even verbally vJhat I could remember 'that we've done ovey-'the
I just filled her inon everything She was very pleased.
That's a monumental job.
Al~Jaff: She thought Chanhassen is definitely heading in the
direction and of,ten she said, oh I'm so jealous. Let me work
ofChanhas~en. You get such ~ood support~ ,
8ragg: It's taken them all those years to get where they are
tapp ing in a ndwe ' vealy" eadycorne t ha t ,f a r .
Montgom~ry: It's taking advantage of what the~'ve already done
wonderful for us too. Sharmin's b~en putting all this stuff on
computer for all this time.
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P1I-Jaff: I told her about the support the local paper has been glvlng u.s
and she said that was wonderfUl. She ~eally thought 0e~ere ~erylucky.
WEJ dO too.
Okay, so are you comfortable with tne
Yeah, I can't think of anything off hand.
very thorough.
So you thi~k it covers everything?
It's agrest list, yeah. It covets a lot.
We do have"and Julie and I discussed this and Barb and I have
discussed this many times ~ We do have, a pr inti ng company in toWI'"\. ~1aybe
when thenon':'profit organization status paperwork is completed and weare
in the process, maybe you can approach one of the company's anda,skthemif
they wOuld print the directories for the commission and havethemasatax
write Off.. It's ~efinitely something to consider. ' "
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Moritgomery: We can certainly try. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Maybe somebody has a connectiont.Ji th s6me other pr i ntingcompany.
AI-Jaff= It would be nice to contact local companies first and then.
e ~1ontgomery: I wou.ld thi nk the)lwould get ,a lot of thanks for
would be great. Okay, anybody have any other suggestions for
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Julie? I just think that worked out so well.
Julie i~ interested too. That's heiped.
AI-Jaff: She's a Very .nice person to work with. Very, very wonderful..
Montgomery: Reme~bei we met her at that meeting.
AI-Jaff: The second item we have programmingoft.he senior cent.erand
grand opening. Do you want.anyt.hing? I'm sure you do. What do you
pict.ure for t.he srandopening? What. would you like t.o see?'
First of all I'd like to know when.
AI-Jaff: Soon.
think it. would be nice if t.hey could be c6mbined.
the grand opening durihg senior Moht.h.
AI-Jaff:' That's what we're hoping for. I meah that would
situation.. Anytime I received a phone call from people that wanted to
s0bmit an answer to their request of proposal. I said that.
ideal if we ~ould have the senior center compl~ted.by May.
construct.ion in Minnesot. i~ unpredictable. '
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'Montgomery:, But they could do internal wor k surely.'
on the outside or can t.hey start on the inside~
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I don't know.. Jerry, do you know?
What. exter ior ~"or k they have to do s very minimal compared to
(Alhat 'they have to do on! the inside. I don't see any reason why i tcouldn't
be,done by May because. if they just have t.oput a ~ouple partitions up and
dosomei nter ior work. To the extent of ~",hat they have' to do,i t shouldn't
be any problem to get somebod)/ ,j n here not that far after, if you can get
all. that paperwork and all the red tape done a)nd get everything in line,
the'construction I w6uldn't think would take thatlohg.
t10ntgomery: Jerry, glad to hear ,thst. I haven't had a
through this report from Paul. '
I'm sorry. It was completed yesterday but I can fill
there. . Do you wint me to talk aboutj it now or wait?
....get. through the agenda further down here.
AI-Jaff: So you w.ouldliketo see the senLor center grand opening 'i'illld
Older American Month combi ned? Tha,t would be the ideal si tuation.We
~",ould hope that's the way i,t would wor k out but if it did open in May, what.
would 'you like to see? That.'s vJhat we're shooting for and t-Je're doing our
best ~o complete the center by May. What would you like to see?
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Howard:
see?
You're saying if it doesn't open in May what w6uld
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Al--Jaff:
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Don't we have time to plan this after ws can project the finishing.
Yes, definitely.
HoWard: 8ecau~e I think why waste the effort in discussing
of not doing this in May.
8ra~g: I Was going to say I participated in ceremonies over at South Shore
but they simply moved into'a church that was already co~pleted and w~ 60uld
te1.1exactlywhen but it took me about 2 months to get the entertainment
and I had a speaker.
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Heinlein: So do this about February or so.
Ruegemer: I just think maybe what Sharrnin's trying to get at is
trying to brainstorm a little bit. Get just some broad ideas.
see.
Ruegemet: Yeah, you don't have to ~eally pinp6int anytKingright now.
start trying to ge~ the wheels turning. Get the wheels turnlngtrYi~g
come up wi t.h something.
e AI-Jaff: Start preparing for it. Getthi nki ng about it~.
8ragg:
Do you have a new person on board who'~ working yet?
We will get to that'too.
8ragg:; Okay because when that coordinator cani look at a program, then you
know whether you~re going to do any meals or what you're going to offer
there. Then you can probably have some people,slotted in that know about
that.'
AI-Jaff: So-you would rather the person from Senior
t~R~ care of the progr~mming? J
8ra~g~ Or at least let us know what ~e're going
beginning so we can kind of feature that.
dining, we'd better. not. talk about alIthe
That's what I'm saying. And .if We're going toplaycards right away,
maybe we could feature somebody from the Club talking about how, What
historically the~ did and you know. That~~ th~ way I se~ it. .
Howard: It would be nice
the preparation to make
Montgomery: Yeah, that was to be used
e Hm'Jard: Yes, and also at the opening.
AI-Jaff: Yes. Potentially.
l.Je can think about talking about it.at.that time.
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Heinlein: Won't the new person that is coming jin to help set
programs and'that, won't they have a hand in so~e of this?
Bragg:' I would think so. I would really like to wait until that
on board before we really dig into it.
Heinlein: Bec~usethey're s0pposed tQ beg~nwhat,
Decemb~r is it? Potentially? .
AI-Jaff: Okay. I just had a suggestion from Tom. He
in0itIng GOvernor or Ronald Reagan to the opening?
Ronald Reagan? The pre~iere senior ci;izen.
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cbuld probably find a senior citizen right
Howatd: When do they appoint the Chanhassen Senior
there is one every year.
Isn't that in May? I
Montgo~ery: I don't remember. When was that?:
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Howard:
Well ~hat should be part of May.
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Al~Jaff: It~as in May.
Montgomery: That could be part of it. Some of; the. local people that have
beeninstfumental like the Mayor who wanted to get this going and some bf
the other people t",ho have wor ked so hard on it', I think should have a
chance to ~alk about what started it. That sort of thing.
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Bragg~ I certainly agree that we should ha0e our local input
dignitaries from ~6re.
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Montgomery: Would ~<Je be able to send out invitations to the
as se~iors in the area? :
AI-Jaff: We could do~hat definitely.
Mo~tgomerY: Besides an invitation in the paper and you know t6
to publicize it. I think that's going to 910 important.
Sure~ We have a list of names of sen~or citizens
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Kubitz: It should be an open house sO~<Je get the younger crowd in too.
t"lake them aware of t'Jhat the seniors are doing.i
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Heinl~in: Well to begin with it would be sort
wouldn't it? The grand opening of the place.
should be.
Bragg: I. think that should be o'ntheagenda fO'f our next month's meeting.
That we startte zero-in on that a little more~ Will the rew person be
aboard by thEln?
AI~Jaff: I'm hoping~
t1ontgomery: Let's put that on the agenda for next month.' We'll
about it and bring some ideas.
,AI-Jaff: Okay. Wonderful so we' 11 combi ne the programming
American Month into one and bring it in front of'yeu.
MontgomeYy; Yeah, we hope that works out that way.
AI-Jaff: Would you like to pursue the housing study
Mohtgomery: I think is really part of our on accomplish
don't kno~ what the fGnds are.
Howard: First of all come the funds.
Al~Jaff; If it is one of the items you'd like
in front of Paul. -
Montgome~y: One of .the things lnoticed was t projections of the number
of seniors was ShOl"t a little bit of what they had expected. Tpersonally
know of3 people who would have loved to have stayed here, very productive
people who moved out of Chanhassen because they couldn't find single level
housing. 1 think we lose good people;
Howard~ This is a big needl think. All the mutliple housihg such as
Chaparral where I live isbi-Ievel or tri~level even. I thinks one level
projec;t vjould be a very good idea. I'd be the, first one to move' in.
Mohtgomery: WeIll definitely think that shou~d be one of our goals.
somethingabou~ that.
Btagg: Are we still talking cibout item 4? Th~ goals for
AI-Jaff: Yes.
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Bnagg: I have in mind and you can shoot me down if you want tobut~
thought as senior 'Commission we should begin looking at our heritage
because we have a lot of seniors no~" whoiwill soon be passing on who are
early residents ,out here and if there is already a hbritage preservati6n,
then X'mout of Ii ne. But i fnot,! think we should, as a commission stand
for historical preservattontoo. -
Heinlein:
Is ~here a historical society? There is isn't
It's a statewide agency.
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Yes. There is.
But is there a Chanhassen
Montgomery: I remember Jerry Ruegemer came here to one of our meetin~s
talked about the fact that he vJasinterested ih that and vJanted to get
sOmething goi ng.
Ruegeme~: That's me. I have.an excellent source too. In fact where I
grew upin t1aple Grove, our next door neighbor is a Kerber. Ralph Kerber .
He grew up in Chanhassen so often I go out there and I talk to Ralph just
about, his uncle in faci owned this land where] City Hall sits on. Just the
historical information that he has would be 1 think very beneficIal to thi
commission.
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Bragg: ...beeh thinking about it and I believe the paper~ublishedsome
piOt.uTes and little .stories underneath too . . I applaud that and 1 wish we
could do something more but I don't want to be duplicating what another
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KuBitz: Well Bernie and Helen Kerber live right in
also grew up here. There's a lot of them.
(There was a ta.pe change at this point.)
Montgomery: Well I think we can certainly encourage
started. Then maybe it ~ill develop.
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AI-Jaff: I think it can become ah activity. What you would do is have
certain members go and gather information. Brlng it and then we. would
t"rite it all down and then one day youwill have a book that would be
published by the CommissiOn on the history of Chanhassen.
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Bragg: That sounds like what I was thinking on that. I would like to See
usdif. Sometimes you write goals and objectiv~s and say,~ will dothui
and so by the end of 1992 and if it means we've accomplisKedthat, thenwe
can erase. it and let somebody else carry the. ball from there. I wish we
had a Kerber on our Board.
1"10nt~]Omery: Ithi n kone 9f the things that was reall yi nteresti ngtOme,
I looked back over all o.fthe task force, the .last report th.?t vJe had that
t"e. turned in and looKed to see what all of the. needs wer,e. It's quite
grcitif~ing I think when a few Of those have been addressed but there's
still these large holes. Like housing, transp6rtation that we ha0en't
settled. But I suggest everybody 'take a look ,back at those. Sherol,do
you have a copy of that?
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Of what?
I know but I didn' t kno~\) ~\)hether you had
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Montgomery: Of the goals that we setup as the
Maybe if you don'tr maybe Sharmin c~n.
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Heinlein: I have all of that stuff.
Montgomery: Well maybe you can give a
over. Ithi n k tha twi 11 help us as we
something.
AI-Jaff: Okay., Maybe. I should get Bernice a copy as well.
Montgomery: Ri~ht. But it was intere~ting
I think. Of course .it hasn 'thappened yet but!
track.
8ragg: I think we'vedon~, when you think how short a time
meeting, I think we've accomplished one of these in getting
going.
Montgomery: But I think we've certainly had some wonderful cooperation
from the staff. It's just been incredible.! just really applaud you.
Does anybody have any other suggestions as far as the categories? Maybe
next month that's something else we can take up and see if we want to add
something afte~ we look over that part. Think! about it for a while.
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AI-Jaff:
them with
happening
AI-Jaff: Well it would be.
8ragg: The age of the computer- .
Montgomery: That would be really helpful Sharmin. That w6uldbe gre~t.
Okay,.do we have anything else? Sharmi n, do you have anything to add?
Al-3aff: Transportation. Y6u mentioned that ~as one
next' ,>/ear?
Montgomery: Yeah.
AI-Jaff.: I was just thinking, maybe we can alsoinvife Kathy j'v1cGra~\)
Carver .County to attend our next meet! ngwi th Diane Harberts' because
is responsible for CART and Metro Mobility. I' mean she's the
transportation person.
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Montgomery: Yeah, she's a nice person. I remember.talki ng to.her.
Yeah, very . And shell-Jorks closelyw1th Diane Harberts from
Metro so maybe between t.he two of them they can take the concerns
Shall we do that next meeting
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of the Senior Commission.
That wilt give them a month.
Okay. Well if it doesn't work, then He"ll do
January.
Okay, I think that would ,be a good idea.
Howard: Ist.his time t.o discuss our next. meeting? You.
di~cussed possibly changing th6 date. !
Yeah, did it. get ,in t.he Minutes?
I didn't see anything about it.
Well maybe we can rneniion. Can you put it under other~ but
maybe we should talk about other now because we want to knot-J vJhenthe
meeting is. How about setting it fort.he second Friday . in December
because we'll rUn into, what. is it? Is thatthci 14th?
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Howard: 13th.
Montgomery: The 13th, okay. Is t.here any conflict with anybody ~here? It
just seemed, it was so close to Christmas with the following week we might
have some trouble with people. being i ntown. If that will be alright.
I worry about it.
Heinlein: The 13th on Friday?
Montgomery: Oh well,.we don't worry about that do we?
That's g60d luck day.
Heinlein: I was just looking, the Senior's Christmas
Montgomery: Okay. Well let's wait. to take a Vote on that. until we get
down to Other to ma~e it official but we think we're okay. Alright.
AI-Jaff: ~hat's what I was just asking JerYY lf a vote was
this.
Montgomery: Yeah I think it
We'll do it under
it? It has to be
Montgomery: For what?
AI-Jaff: If a vote was needed to change the d~te of
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Are we recidyfor the next thing h.re? Do you
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HO~Jard:, This I thi nkls very' immediate becausea.s you,r-ememberwhen
went to Buffalo they had this man>elous committee of people frOm the
community raising fund:ifoT their, center and they worked 5 years for
NOlrJ we're going to be~aving a center soon and we have no committee. So ,I
think we should probably presentthls.When lsthe next Councllmeeting?
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AI-Jaff: This coming ~onday, the 18th.
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Howard: Well I think ~efinitelyby then if
And alII did is make ~ategoriesfrom which 'to draw for this fundralsing
committee and then I think we can discuss it. First we should have of
coursE~busi ness people f. ,Second, professiona.l people. Thl rd, civic
organizations. And foJJrth, political and government people. Thenthere's
'another, and I think all of those should be in0ited by the Co~nciloY ,the
City Hall. ,But then there 's another category Of citizens at large and this
probably should beadv~rtlsed for, which is how 1 got on this committee.
Just have it In the pa~er for those who are interested but ~ do think
there~s, one otherthi n~ t.hat we should be sure to, include different areas
of Chanhassen because so often you heaTMi nne~"'ashta say, we were not
included.' So I think ~e should have somebody from western Chanhassen and
southern. Northern anCl central kind of blend together. So then we can
just today dis6uss theke different categories.' .
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Howard: That would bel a good idea. But I do think it's something to think
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about to make sure we get people from different areas. The ones at large,
there would be a categbry of people. Not necessa'ri ly seniors always on
this committee who wou~d be interested. There~ must be a lot of people
intermediat.e age, who m~ght have parents thl nking' of moving into the
community or at retire~entage who would be interested. And then in the
~~~i ~~:~~~ ~~~o~; ~:'a~ i~~ n~;~ii~d w~~~; ~~u ~~i~e f~ ~~t~~~:i n~Oc.~~~it. ~:~~ Ie
To beinvol vedwith th~ seniors. Fori nsta nce', say someone i ni nsur ance
where he might be,look~ng froma,business aspec::t too rthink is very often
coincides and I don't ~hink there's anything,wrongwith it really.
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Montgomery: You're cotlcerned about a conflIct of interest...?;
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Howard": This opens up Ian area whe,e people miS)ht be mOle selve
on this committee if pQssiblycit means busin~ss for them.
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Bragg: Would you also Iconsfder people givinQ a donation where they'd get a
little plaque ona cha~'r or something like that?
that t.hisbed '~iJas purclased by so and so.
Howard: Well, also when we get our tax free, their
deductible would they tot" Barbara? '
Montg9mery: Yes, and that's !lJhat~.;Je need. We're waiting
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Howard: And I do think recognition is always good.
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Montgom€n"y: Ithi nk " I Im~ntioned befol"e there'~ some people in my
neighborhood who are very anxious to be helpful arid I imagine that's
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Howard: Well I think ihis can be done both by
adver'tising .We have Ihever discussed the size
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Montgo~ery: It seems to me it should be rather large.
working comniittee for ,$omething, it's better small but
to contact a lot of ditferent types of people,: it
kri6w, maybe 15i 16. W~at do you think?
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HOt.-Jard:. Well" that's right.".. Do you. WE nt to discuss the different
categories and suggest! people for them? F01" instance, businesses. .Wehave
the,bank and they haver expressed an interest already. Probably the utility
companies. They'r"eusli1allyinvolved in a function such ,as this.\And a
newspaperman would be hice.
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Montgomery: I thinkh&'s been on our committee for
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Howard: But let'sjus~suggest oth~r businesses.
8r~gg: Well I think ,t~e Rotary or whatever.
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Howard: That comesuntJer civic.
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Bragg: Oh you're jUstltalking aboutbusinesse~?
Howard: Yeah. I.
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are on thos~ ciVic org~nizations.
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Howaord:I had that under professional. But we can just discuss it.'
altogether .1Ae should Ihave a minister' and lavwel~<Jould be a go<.)aidea.
Educator'. And I don't I knoN ~.JhetheTNe could get a doctor. They'ore so busy
but perhaps we could get someone from the medical field.
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And then in t~e civic oTganizations v.Je have a
Doweha0e a Juhior ChAmbeT of CommeTce?
AI-Jaff: I don't thinJ so.
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HowaTd: Well ChambeT Jf CommeTce and Legion and we h~0e RotaTY.
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r'lowaT'd: And theyhavel a business woman's organization
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HowaTd:Not League oflWomen VoteTs, although that's on my list to~'.
thi nk.l'xead about buslnesst,.Jomen. And then maybe we can gaT neT some help
f'Tom the Chanhassen At~letic Associat..ion that Jay'S so involved in. AndL
had listed Art not knowing we didn't have an art. This lady we met the
other night was justihthe.PTocess of forming an Art for Eastern Carver.
Well everyone belongsfo Art but I mean,a local ~roup that meets.
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Montgomery: And therelis som~bodytrying to form ona.
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HowaTd: Yeah,for EasteTn CaT veT County.
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8Tagg: UndeTother welweTe going to talk about that.
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HowaTd~ Yea~. Andth~ngoveTnment.The MayoT of COUTS e..
city goveTnment.Some(i,)nefrom theTG.Of course it'd be maTvelousifwe
could interest aTepre~entatlve or a Senator froM this area. 1 did list
League of WomenVotersl and then the Democratic, and Republican ~lubs that
are organized 10cally.IAnd the categoTY at layge I think we should have
some retired people ana definitely some homemakeTsshould. be considered.
Now these might beadv~rtised for Tather than invited because I don't know
how you 'd know whom tol i nvi te.And ..the categol"Y there could include the
people who might have parents who possibly would be interested because of
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Ku ItZ: You dl n' t get- t,e F 1 re Department in: a nYI<Jere .
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Howard: No, I forgoti t. Well that'd beunde)" city government
I have,a lot ofothersi listed under businesses but locally, the
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industry~ assuming we ~et a grocery store and we do'have some food
already. We have ~onsdruction and electrical and heating. And
entertainment and travdl. We have so much business ,in this busifless park
too. Printers. Youk~owwe have the mailing business.
It 9ives+ a lot of ideas of peo:leto contact.
And real estat[e and insurance. Now those might possibly if we get
in the senior Istudy and a future housing development. ,Certainly
estate people !would be interested. Andinsurancepeople~
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~1ontgomery: As I Undel1lstand it, it's up to the City Council to appoint
this committee.
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Didn't youga~herthatfrom Buffalo?
Montgomery: I don't kJow.. That was in some of our early Minutes somewhere
and that's l-'Jh>' I kept contacting the Mayor and I think he,~\Jould be part of
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Montgomery: Maybe we~eedto find out how this committee is
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Howard: But ~e shouldlhave a commit~ee sO it can start January~February at
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Montgomery: Now ~\Jould ,this' be the Board of Di rectors then of the
Chanhassen Senior Foun.ation? Maybe you can check that out too to
that ~ould be the way to go.
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Montgomery: I don 'tknow,. That's what we need to find out
What the structure ~\Jould be. How we would accomplishi t..
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AI-3aff: I did'receiv~ some paperwork fr6mou~ Attorney's office.
filing everythiJng 1;.Jithl the IRS. They do the operational budget
Senior Commission for the year '92 and '93.
Montgomery: I don't think it 'sfor the Senior! Commission.
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~1ontgomeY-y = For the foundation , right. I don 'tknow, in the past, I ,know
sometimes people have ~iledv.Jhat they call a proforma budget. And youkno~'<l
they kn6~ you don't kndw what youire going to do or ,what it's goi~g t6 cost
or anYthing else but ydu've got to put some stuff down. Because it's very ,
hardto predict but yoJ know you're going to need stamps and need printing
and that sort of thingJ
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AI-3aff = ~Jhat! t",as t~i nking of doing, la(st night I ~"as
were going to go aboutlthis and I haven't talked to Paul aboOt it y~t
basically list that th~rewill b~ senior center. This is how much is
allocated for it. In the future the sertiorcommission is thinking about
putting together a dir~ctory and that would cost approximately so much.
Programmin!J and that WQuldcost so much. The City has allocated this much
money. Funds have beeM drawn out of the Block Grant money so t.hat~"oL1Idbe
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At.torney to see if' that belongs 1 n there. I don't know ~ Thisisout of my
kno,W,ledg,e but. y",OU needlto",b, e, v~,ry ca" r, ef"ul Wit.h"whatyou're listir"g and make
sure it's justexact.ly what they require. I don't know but the attorney
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dollar,s to South Shore I but that could be a pelcentage of that money which
would take pare ofyistng cost.s ~nd everything. It's a diffe,ent amount
eve)"')! yea,but so ~"ouldi ours be.
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t-10ntgomery =, t.Jhethe, that belongs in these figures , ! don't"know
lrJhatt.he attorney should be 'able to tell us. :t ~"ould t.hi nk. l' know
theyehas tob~, to pr+selve YOUr non-Rrofit status that has tob~
cey-tain pelcentage of funds ,that ale just f,om publicdonat.ions,. I
knollJ, that changes ,and I I'm not author ity on that sort. of thing but
it's something to look[into.' To makesuy-e, we bear in mind all the
)r, eS,tYiction,IS,., I t,hink,l we have to rely ,ont,' he ,a, t,torney.
Al~Jaff: ~hey are wo,~ing on it. They definitely ale wo,king o~ it. I
talked to tihem yesterd*y and I received some huge documents that'wewe,e
goi ng,th,ough yest.erday. Li ke I said, now they need, they can complete all
the wqrk other 'than th~ opeTationalbudget and that's something that we
would have!to put together . But it's going in: the light di,ection. It's
rnoving in the right ditection. Hopefully Ina month y6u would have ,it.
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AI-3aff=WelltAJe had five responses for the Rf='P . Jack Ande,sonwas one of
them and y6u'all know kack Anderson. EOS Archltects who had buil~the fire
station'an~ City H,all.IAIl the applications that we received were
wonderful. I Imeaneveyyonewas highly qualified .We prefer working with
people that we've had ~xperience with. We know what t.ypeof work they
perform. dne of the lbwest bids we received was EOS who had done the fire
station an~ has done s~me work on Cit~ Hall.
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Sragg: They were. the ~owest 'too.
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Al-'Jaff: Correct . Arid the figure ,that they submitted foY' a'(chi tectuY'al
fees was not to exceed 1$10,152.00.. One of thejreasons that they stated
they had submitted such a 10wfiguY'e is because they really hope to. work on
the senior .housing project t.Jhen that takes place. L.Jhen that happens. The
CityCounci I will be vdti ng on this i ternan Monday. Staff or Paul put thl,s
together and he isrecdmmending that EOSbe awarded this project. ~hat's
where this stands at trle moment. On Monday, whatever the Council decides.
Tuesdaywecan cont.actjthein and say okay~ get going on it. .
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Montgome.. ry: Yeah, theyl' seemed very interested ,in ~inding out
needs we had.
AL-Jaff: A lot of, inlfactall the firms sent somebody here:
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Al~Jaff: Yes. We went through
the~e. They all sent ~opies 0f
the ~ask force so theylwereall
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Howard: . I simply can't relate to an exi~ting Yoom
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Ai-Jaff: Yes it will be. Yeah, we want~d
cord. The longter:m pian fOY'City Hall is
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Howard:' SO t. hey' r. e. got.ng to do, the outsIde portion' of thefutul"e.
AI-Jaff: Correct. c~rrect.
building. And thevesbibule.
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Howard: Of course I chn't ielate to most of the prices
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Al...Jaff: There"sa vety large, well not very large but a hill that wOuld
need to beremdved. II imagine retaining walls:. There is ~ staircase that
might have to come outl and that, the . demolition of the concr.ete staircase
cou 121 cost quite a bit I. Plumb i ng .
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Ruegerrler: Electrical.1 Running the electrIcal into there becausecur'rently
there isn't any type oiFelectrical receptacles, on any of the walls.
Exter idr: wa1 Is. .And~\J~atsharmln Is tal:ki ng about~\lhere i the staiT~olf~?
come down, I thInk thajt's t.JheY'e thepY'oppsed bathl"ooms 8l1d those faCILItIes
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the studY that, Judy Marshek: prepaY'scj.for
ve'ryfa~lliar with what the Senior .
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Howard: Latch key. AJd they do not hav6 one, or
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Well they said Ithe ~inisterjai Association had come ,to them about
this: Butr wanted to Ibring out the fact that once a~ain this has.been'
going on for about 20 Year~ and so we're Johnny Come Lately and we.have our
ov-magenda and so we tt.JJre just fitting octrselves \into listening and trying
to figure out where we!fit in. ' ,
Howard1 Ithoug~t it ~~d to do with adu t edu6ation'and
bring some into our center.
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Bragg: I think we could. We only went to get a f.eel for
thing on that ~~ednesdat was what they call SACCo Did, you
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C-caring ot something.
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That 'swhy is ~oLi'vebeen going on for ,20 years and ,you're already
revising your By-laws ~hich is whatthey1did and they voted on that~you
can imagine how we felt. But we wer~ li$tener~. And I think asyou'say,
we do, ,if vJe'reintere~ted in Adul,t Education,! which is I am. Ihav~ been
ever S1. nce I was an u ncj:le'r graduate , that, ~"'ehave to put that, that will
have to go onto the agtnda.
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HowaY'd: Were you put off , as I was, f i r$t they played a9ame . They passed
around. They had ea. ch.1 o.f us listouxstrongpo.. ints. Our own strClng ....po... ints
and then give them to the person next to. you~ !Exchangethem with the
person next to YOU. Ahd then went around and discuss these. It 's like
playing a game at a shbwer. I thought what are we doing?
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Bragg: Again, they ha~e been to several workshops and this is.a warm-u~.
They did this. I think th~Y'ewere seveY'al put off by.that be6suse;and
they did kno~'~ each other and they'd been! on thiscomrnissioneY' for quite a
while. I fO'rgavethem! for that ~ .. .. . .'
Montgomery: Well Bettk, do you thillkthat there is someonk on the
commission that you woUld be able to talk to ahead of time? rheChai'rman
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or somebody about whatl' you would like to discuss. What you're concerned
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Bragg: ..Yes.And he's Ithe one I would ask when that's going to be onthe
agenda because we are hoping to get/on that and I think If it's all going
to be earlychildhood~ducationotthatsortof thing, I think we've all
been through it .We'\)$ al'l }"aised children and a11that but their
particulat problems wete not, I don't feel qualified to talk about it.
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Howard= Right now theJhave to...they ~ave a tremendous time schedule
here. This done by Fe~rUary and t.his done by Marchand that's why., they're
concentrating on thesejthings. They have to have action on them soon I
g~thered didn't you Betty?
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Bragg= Yeah. But I think the one positive thing
there' is a real push f<>r using elder mentors. .' :That's what they called them
and that would be the~olunteers from the senior community and howthey~an
help in the school. N6t ,j0.$t as room visitors' or anythi ng but to bri ng
t.heir experience to I think the one I'm involved in is bringing.experience
1 i ke.for example Wor Id il..Jar II to the curl' iculumwhen the students are
st.udyin~ about World War II. That they can say there's a liv~ person that
went through' that and these are the things that went on. For example the
stamps and the shortageS and breaking up of the families and that sort of
thing, But at this point we're notriadybecause we don't have our
identIfied seniors to r1raw from fora program like that and they would
receive~raining. But it was interesting to see how they were reacting
it. It was,the,Mr., w~at~~as his name? ·
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our heads. Ourfeelinksonhaving gone to that meeting. It went on from
7=00 to after 9=00 so they've got a very active group. rt.wasinteresting
to see the members of the group and they come from, they're all ages and
it'sa very active groyp. ,
Montgomery: l: would gLess if they're inviting' seniors, thatthey,would!:;.e
interested in knowing 0hat a diffeierit perspective is that you might have.
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Bragg: I think we d1dltell them ihatwe're inteTest.ed
I :did. I said that 's why >vJewere there. That, we were
will allow us to bringl somethirig to ouf center when we
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as k hi rn what cMa nce ther e t1.Jould be.
B0tIthought IthatGregShan~was.
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not. pioneering 1 i kewe iare. They,'le way aneadof Us.
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December from the fourth Friday to the second Friday of the month, December
13,1991. All voted it. favor and the motion carried.
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Bragg: How about brinking something that tJJe can give
c~n give to needy chi18ren. Toys fof Tots. Maybe bring
could give. Do we nee8 anything morefoi ourselves?
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nicest Christmas's Ihbd was when theplac~ where I was working decided
instead of exchanging~ifts to each other to gb and buy something that
could be ~iven to a ch~ld under th~age of 10~'
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Hel nlein: We were told yesterdayt.o bring something next week 1 ikefor
Thanksgiving dinner and that. ' That was asked up at chur-ch too so T 'took
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AI-Jaff: I wanted tornention for your i nformation item that we have... It~s
the census~ The breakldown of age gr-oups. And'if we include people that
are age 55 and above, JJe have over 1,000 senior 'residents in Chanhassen.
thought you might waritlto know that. And our brojections indicate that
this number is going tb double within fhe next'decade.
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Al-Jaff: We have a latge population of people ages 65
among the seniorcateghry. 110. Seniors ages 75-84.
people. I thought tha~information might interest you and thene5 and
a..bov...e we.. have.. 35. pe.oPl.R' . 1Hanttoknol;J tAJhere they are.
Howard: I noticedthe~ have more males than f~males.
myself but the papert~lls us that.
I don't thi~k that's Ylght.
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Montgomery: IapPTeciBtethatyou gathered that. That's very
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AI-3aff: vJe just recelived i tthe end, of last month .
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8ragg: Yeah, and it W4s so much fun
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Montgomery: It's' i nter!esti ng to compare
Al'-Jaff: Sure. Andth!en Senior Community Services , Adele
submitted a grant. . Re9u., est for a grant for living at home
program. ,.1
Who di~sie submit that to do
Ai-Jaff: I believe it1s[the State. So we haven't heard
Montgomery: lIt's ce'(t~inlY '8 well written proposal.
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Al-Jaff: Defin,..iteIY aHd I .t.hOU9ht YOu,......m.. 19ht be int.erest$d in
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Bragg: I was also hap~y to see the company in' which your included.., The
places that we had visited when we went out in the bus loads land then the,
car. [.Je had visited mc!trw of these centers andso to see that their
programs and out progrrims/and our goals are all being~ they are the same.
so we 're not ventur i ng lout on uncharted waters.
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Montgomery: Okay, is th~re'anything else ,anyone would like to bringupj
Howard: . I don't know that this is at all pertinent Barbara but I wondered
'why at Minnetonka Cent~r we pay $5.00 for shots and at Excelsior at South
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Montgomery: I would S?y it. depended upon the collaborating hospital.
had ours fromRidgevie~ atWaconia and ~hey probably had theirs
knows. Methodist or who knows.
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HO\,4Jard: It was very w~llorgani:z:ed but I wond'eyed if the center makes
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A d "f' th cl'ol. l".t. 'd bo' . h" h" k b
,n 1'. . ey '"' so met 1 ngto t 111 .' a out..
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Montgomery: 'r think it's the other way aroundl. That somebody
subsidizingi~ from th6 other end.
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Howard: That's over tWice as much over atMin~etonka,;
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Montgomery: ,Maybe we should call up and find out. I'll
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Bragg: I think the ho~pital probably went overboard to make that contact.
I think I hav~ to say ~hat I think Ridgeview,i~ involved because Chanhassen
been part of that South Shore .Cen-terand that's why they did that.
when r programmed forlthem, I have contact with Ridgeviewand they
well Excelsior, that's] in Hennepi n County. Isald yes but a third
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Montgomery: I think t~at's a good ide~.
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AI-Jaff:, I think that Iwould be best and then 1,'11 updat.e
has happened at our next meeting.
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Howard: It should mov~ as fast,as possible though.
committeeo~ganized.1
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Montgomery: O~ whatev~r we call it. Whatever structure this
be. If it's going to~e a committee or a 80ala 01 tr.Jnat I don't
t,hink we'need to set.tle on that. What t.hat's supposed to be.
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A'l-Jaff: Okay. I will do my best to,. I' 11 moVe it as fast as I
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Montgomery: I noticediback in t.hose Task Forc~ ~ecommendationsthatthey
suggested that the comMission structure the advisory board or vlheteverthe
governing body wasgoihg to be for thecente~ and suggesting that it bean
adv lsory council. 'You !might want to look back at those ,notes and see ..t'Jhat
that said but that would be aidifferent group.
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Kubitz: Advisory council, is a different group.
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Mont.Somery: Yeah. Thktwould not be a fund r~ising group.
Kubitz: The big. commilteewaJ moie fund raIsing than back up.
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Mont.gomery: , Right. andl that's I just wanted tol ser:>arate t.hetwo and
I'm not talking about~his large cOfflmitte~as an advisory council.
not the idea. That would be separate. ' ' . .
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Kubitz: I think thea~viso~'y boaid is made up of people
center and use it and 001unteers.
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Ai";'Jaff: I thinkthatl group will be formed by' the programmer.
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except you have communliiy services involved.
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Kubitz: 8unnyis on tlheadvisory boatd' at Eden Prairie.
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Montgomery: So that I,-Jli Ilbea' separate sort. of thing. We.' Te not
about that when we're italking about fund raising or whatever you
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quest.ion. 'RegaTding the fund ralslng committee.
the iHayor about this before he schedules itona
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AI-Jaff: I have a
want me to talk to
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call it. Community sUPPort group.
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Al-.Jaff=But you mightlwant/todb it.
comrnissio:n to' be ,on the advisory board.
have that kind.
Nominate
Just so
Bragg: Certainly at tHe beginning.
Montgomery: Yeah I thJnk so. When it' beglns to take shape to do
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AI-Jaff = But hopefull I,' by next meeting you
programmer.
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and the motion carried~ The meeting was adjourned.
submitted by Paul Krauls
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