2003 06 24 AGENDA
PARK & RECREATION COMMISSION 6.'00 p.m.
TUESDAY, JUNE 24, 2003
CHANHASSEN CITY HALL, 7700 MARKET BOULEVARD
6:00 p.m. Park Tours: Roundhouse Park, Herman Field Park, and Curry Farms Park
7:30 p.m. - CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Commissioners may add or delete items at this time.
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS
VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
Commission Procedures allow for presentations from the audience at this time. If a motion is
required, the item will be forwarded to the next available agenda to allow for publication and
review prior to consideration.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1. Approval of minutes dated May 28, 2003.
NEW BUSINESS
2. 2003 4TM of July Business Fair
OLD BUSINESS
None
REPORTS
3 Recreation Programs
a. 2003 4th of July Celebration
4. Recreation Center
5. Senior Center
6. Park & Trail Maintenance
COMMISSION MEMBER COMMITTEE REPORTS
COMMISSION MEMBER PRESENTATIONS
ADMINISTRATIVE PACKET
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FROM:
Park and Recreation Commission
Todd Hoffman, Director of Parks and Recreation
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DATE: June 18, 2003
SUB J: Park Tours
Please meet at the lower east level of City Hall at 6:00 p.m. to attend a series of
park tours. We will also have a picnic supper at Roundhouse Park as a part
of the tour. We can car pool from City Hall.
Roundhouse Park
We will view the progress of the painting and roofing at the Roundhouse. I will
also review an upcoming Eagle Scout project which will be completed at
Roundhouse Park.
Herman Field Park
Commissioners will visit what is often considered our "problem child" in the
City's park system. The secluded nature and low usage levels at Herman Field
Park attracts undesirable activity from time to time. The City does have the
option of transferring ownership of this property to the County.
Curry Farms Park
Home of the "sinking ball field!" Neighbors have asked the City to investigate
the future of the sinking-ball field at Curry Farms Park. The park was constructed
atop very poor soils and right field continues to sink. This situation has not
improved even after three major filling and compaction operations. Continuing to
fill the area is not an option. Available options include removing the ball field
altogether (it is underutilized), or reconfiguring the field by shifting it all to the
south.
See you on tour!
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CHANHASSEN PARK AND
RECREATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
SUMMARY MINUTES
MAY 28, 2003
Acting Chair Spizale called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Amy O'Shea, Jack Spizale, Paula Atkins, Susan Robinson and Glenn
Stolar (Rod Franks arrived late to the meeting.)
MEMBERS ABSENT: Tom Kelly
STAFF PRESENT: Todd Hoffman, Park and Rec Director; and Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation
Superintendent
PUBLIC PRESENT:
Kent Ludford
Laura, Stephen & Paul Graves
Joni Nelson
Grant & Tim Moore
Jim Manders
Melissa Gilman
Jeff & Peter Fliss
Mike, Connor, Ryan & Linda Howe
Clay Muhlenhake
Tyler Farrell
Jason & Barbara Kayati
8615 Valley View Court
8634 Valley View Court
8610 Valley View Court
1812 Valley Ridge Trail So.
6791 Chaparral Lane
Chanhassen Villager
8710 Osprey Lane
2169 Stone Creek Drive
8040 Erie Avenue
2243 Boulder Road
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
Commissioner Stolar added under commission presentations an update from the City Council
meeting and to discuss impacts of the conceal and carry law.
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS: None.
COMMUNITY OPEN MICROPHONE OPEN HOUSE.
Paul Graves, 8634 Valley View Court was present to address the paint ball situation that was
addressed in the Chanhassen Villager a couple weeks ago and the impacts on the Bluff Creek
corridor. He felt it has been a positive activity for his family and friends, teaching safety and
responsibility and was asking that the neighborhood be allowed to continue to play paint ball in
that area. Kent Ludford and his son Michael, 8615 Valley View Court explained what paint ball
is and gave a demonstration of some of the equipment used. A 10 minute paint ball video was
shown. Jason Kayati, 8715 Valley View Place asked the commissioner to consider a site in
Chanhassen for paint ball to be played. Barbara Kayati wanted to clarify a couple items brought
up in the Chanhassen Villager article regarding the litter and parents not knowing where and what
their children were doing. She stated the litter has been there for many years and that she always
knows where her children are and requested that the City provide an area for the kids to play paint
ball. Tim Moore, 1812 Valley Ridge Trail South ask the commission to consider a paint ball park
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and charging admission to help offset the cost of running it. Jeff Fliss, 8710 Osprey Lane said
that he's been walking in this area for a long time and it's been a mess long before the children
started playing paint ball, and that the newspaper article was very slanted against the paint ball
players. Joni Nelson, 8610 Valley View Court wanted to dispute some of the information in the
newspaper article as well. The parents did not feel it was illegal to play paint ball because
they've seen real hunters in orange vests with real guns in this area as well. She felt that rules
needed to be set as far as littering and boundaries. The kids that play in that area have actually
cleaned up a lot of the litter and hazards out there. Tyler Ferrell and Stephen Graves gave their
perspective on why they like to play paint ball. Kent Ludford stated he would leave the video if
anybody wants to watch it for further reference. Tyler Raymond stated he didn't own a paint gun
but he's seen the other kids playing and feels the city should give them a place to play. Jacob
Graves asked the commission to consider a place for them to play so they don't have to drive.
Clay Muhlenhake, President of the Chaska Area Football Association asked the City for their
assistance in providing additional football fields, with one 100 yard field, possibly lit. Ron
Roeser, 222 Chan View, asked if the city had any plans to continue bike paths on Lyman and
Galpin Boulevards. He explained he was a biker not a paint ball player. Chairman Franks and
Todd Hoffman explained how the trails on the comprehensive trail plan are being constructed
when property is developed and that the trail along Lyman Boulevard will get developed when
the County upgrades that road. Mr. Roeser also asked that the tunnel under Powers Boulevard
possibly get painted in the future. Chairman Franks asked if there was anyone interested in a dog
park, and Barbara Kayati stated she would be in favor of a dog park in the city. A member of the
audience got up and wanted to commend the city staff who run the park department on a daily
basis for the great job they do, stating he's lived in Chanhassen for 8 years, had a business in
town for 20 years and sponsors a men's and women's softball team.
O'Shea moved, Atkins seconded to recess the Park and Recreation Commission meeting to
hold an informal open house with the public at this point. Chairman Franks called the
meeting back to order.
Chairman Franks thanked Todd Hoffman for advertising the community open microphone/open
house and inviting the public in to speak and stated he'd like to see that continue in the future.
The commissioners also discussed putting a dog park, paint ball area, and lighting of a football
field to be placed on future agendas.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: O'Shea moved, Spizale seconded to approve the Minutes of
the Park and Recreation Commission meeting dated April 22, 2003 as presented. All voted
in favor and the motion carried unanimously.
INITIATE REVIEW OF ACCESSIBILITY EVALUATION FOR CITY OF
CHANHASSEN PARKS.
Todd Hoffman brought this item to the commission's attention as an informational item only. No
action was taken. Chairman Franks asked that when this is brought back, that staff provide
documentation of the current revisions to the ADA requirements.
2003 SUMMER ACTIVITIES AND 2003 LAKE ANN PARK OPERATIONS.
Jerry Ruegemer highlighted the new activities being offered in the 2003 summer activities, i.e.
skateboard camp and demonstration and reported that the first weekend of concession operations
at Lake Ann Park had been very successful with approximately $1,000 in sales. Now with the
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nice weather arriving, picnic reservations were increasing and he stated he would be providing
the commission with a report in the future. Chair Franks asked if there had been any resistance to
the increase in fees. Staff reported there had not.
SELF SUPPORTING PROGRAMS: SUMMER ADULT SOFTBALL.
Jerry Ruegemer gave an update on the summer adult softball league. He stated that numbers are a
little flat and there is an overall decline in younger adults playing throughout the whole state.
2003 PARK AND TRAIL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM (CIP).
Todd Hoffman provided the commission with an overview of the current status and history of the
Fund 410, park and trail fund and the projects projected to be completed this year. Chair Franks
threw out that possibly bonding will have to be used as a funding source in the future.
Commissioner Stolar stated he would be in favor of recommending to City Council that they
review the funding of $700,000 out of Fund 410 for the City Center Park and reduce the
expenditure. Todd Hoffman suggested the Park and Recreation Commission take a tour of the
parks in the city and then come back for a work session to discuss capital improvements and
budget issues.
4TM OF JULY TRADE FAIR.
Todd Hoffman asked the commissioners for ideas for the Park and Recreation Commission booth
to be set up at the Business Expo.
4th OF JULY PARADE.
Jerry Ruegemer outlined the 4th of July parade events planned for this year. Chair Franks asked
for possibly more participation in the parade theme by political participants.
RECOGNITION OF BOKOO BIKES FOR TRAIL MAP PARTNERSHIP.
Todd Hoffman informed the commission that Bokoo Bikes will be presented with a framed
edition of the trail map they helped fund with a $5,000 contribution at the City Council meeting
on June 9, 2003.
COMMISSION MEMBER COMMITTEE REPORTS. None.
COMMISSION MEMBER PRESENTATIONS.
Glenn Stolar provided the commission with an update of the City Council meeting held May 27,
2003 and discussion about the conceal and carry law and how it affects city property.
ADMINISTRATIVE PACKET.
Todd Hoffman informed the commission that the City Council had decided to take no action on
the tobacco use policy in city parks. He asked the commission if they wanted the council to
reconsider the issue in specific areas such as the skate park or beach areas. The members of the
Park and Recreation Commission unanimously agreed to place the issue of tobacco use in parks
on a future agenda for discussion. Chairman Franks asked that city residents be notified, if only
in the Chanhassen Villager, when mosquito spraying was planned to occur in city parks. Todd
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Hoffman informed the commission of School District 112's upcoming plans for a referendum to
purchase land for a middle or high school. A 80 acre site with 40 acres of city owned park
property and 40 acres for the school.
Robinson moved, O'Shea seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in favor and the
motion carried. The Park and Recreation Commission meeting was adjourned.
Submitted by Todd Hoffman
Park and Rec Director
Prepared by Nann Opheim
CHANHASSEN PARK AND
RECREATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MAY 28, 2003
Acting Chair Spizale called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Amy O'Shea, Jack Spizale, Paula Atkins, Susan Robinson and Glenn
Stolar (Rod Franks arrived late to the meeting.)
MEMBERS ABSENT: Tom Kelly
STAFF PRESENT: Todd Hoffman, Park and Rec Director; and Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation
Superintendent
PUBLIC PRESENT:
Kent Ludford
Laura, Stephen & Paul Graves
Joni Nelson
Grant & Tim Moore
Jim Manders
Melissa Gilman
Jeff & Peter Fliss
Mike, Connor, Ryan & Linda Howe
Clay Muhlenhake
Tyler Farrell
Jason & Barbara Kayati
8615 Valley View Court
8634 Valley View Court
8610 Valley View Court
1812 Valley Ridge Trail So.
6791 Chaparral Lane
Chanhassen Villager
8710 Osprey Lane
2169 Stone Creek Drive
8040 Erie Avenue
2243 Boulder Road
8715 Valley View Place
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
Stolar: Just a couple things on, I guess it goes under presentations. I should present from the
City Council last night. I was at the meeting, so if we want to add that. And then also, I was
wondering Todd maybe you could help us. Based on the meeting last night, do we want to have
at least an initial discussion on the conceal and carry law impact? Oh, you probably had gone by
then.
Hoffman: Yep. Certainly you can.
Stolar: I don't expect any action but at least to start the discussion. The fire chief discussed it in
his presentation.
Hoffman: Okay.
Stolar: Would that be administrative item e? 5(e)?
Hoffman: Actually it would be a commission member presentation to place it on a future agenda,
Stolar: Okay.
Spizale: Okay, anybody else?
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PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS: None.
COMMUNITY OPEN MICROPHONE OPEN HOUSE.
Spizale: Right now let's open up to the audience. If anybody has, would like to come up to the
podium. State your name and address and what you've got to say.
Hoffman: First one's always the toughest.
Spizale: I see a lot of people ready to get up. Here we go.
Paul Graves: Hi. My name's Paul Graves. I just wanted to, 8634 Valley View Court in
Chanhassen. I wanted to address the paint ball situation that was addressed in the newspaper, in
the Chan Villager a couple weeks ago and just simply would like to just kind of state our thoughts
on that. We were playing paint ball in the Bluff Creek corridor in the area that was pictured in
the newspaper with our family and our neighbors throughout this entire year and it's really been
for all of us a pretty, real good positive experience. It's helped teach responsibility and safety to
the kids. It's been just a truckload of fun for us. We've gone down and the newspaper I thought
was somewhat deceiving in the article that was presented. In talking about littering and sort of a
disrespect for the area, and I think kind of quite the contrary. That there's been a lot of respect.
The kids have gone down and built bunkers in areas to play in. They've always plated with
supervision in that area. It's been a great area to play in because it's far removed from the path.
It has been one, just for safety sake. They've always played with proper supervision, whether it
be in the case, at least with our family and in our neighborhood, it's always required a parent to
be down there or appropriate supervision when they've played. There was some talk about the
people causing littering and so on and so forth. I think Michael actually had some demonstration
of that that they're biodegradable, and I just can't stress enough how much fun we've had with
this and what a good experience it has been altogether for us as kind of a whole neighborhood
group. Had just a ton of fun playing down there. And essentially didn't feel disrespectful like
kind of the way that the newspaper had put it, and would like to ask for consideration for a
variance or allowing people to continue possibly in that area. The area provides good shelter and
a lot of fun. It was set back where it didn't feel like we were interrupting anybody else's,
occasionally somebody might walk through. The times that we were down there, we always
showed respect when somebody was coming through. We stopped playing. Let them kind of do
their thing, and then would continue play when they felt. And would just like to I guess publicly
say that we would like some reconsideration of the rules around the people in that area.
Spizale: Okay, thanks for your comments. Next person.
Kent Ludford: My name is Kent Ludford, 8615 Valley View Court. We have my son with me
tonight, if you wouldn't mind him stepping up. I'm not sure, and I believe Michael brought this
stuff along to, in case you're not familiar with what paint ball is. The projectiles are sent out by
compressed air. Just to put it in quotes, the paint ball industry does not call them guns. They're
not paint guns, they're markers. The device that shoots the paint ball, which are these little 68
caliber, little biodegradable pellets and they have a little of paint in it. Do you want to explain
Michael?
Michael Ludford: These are just the paint balls that the...shoots. When they get wet they
dissolve and they're like 99 percent water and one percent paint. This is one broken up and it's
like, it doesn't stain anything so in the rain it will all just wash off and then it disintegrates...
This is a paint ball mask. It's made especially, there's special stuff on here made for paint balls
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so if you get shot it won't break. Then on the markers there's a little safety, just like on any
regular gun. And this is a paint ball stopper for, you plug it into your barrel so if you pull the
trigger and the safety's not on, you have this in your barrel so the paint ball won't fly anywhere
else where you don't want them to go. So that's pretty much it.
Hoffman: You have a video you wanted to show?
Michael Ludford: Yeah.
Kent Ludford: When this is in the barrel then all the other players know he can't do anything.
The lens in here is specially made for these. This is actually stronger than safety glasses that
construction workers use, plus it's got full ear, mouth and chin protection, visor. This whole tape
that he's going to play is only a 10 minute take, and this one we got his first starter kit marker.
Came with that and with the helmet was second but this videotape came with the marker that we
bought. It's a Brass Eagle...manufacturer of paint ball equipment.
Spizale: Maybe Michael could pass the, could we see the paint balls too and see what they look
like and the solution. Thank you.
Kent Ludford: Just one question, we had...a couple ounces and you can tell, it's almost starting
to break down on that...
(A video was shown at this point in the meeting.)
Paul Graves: ...Safety is an issue. There are other people in outskirt Chan, 2 or 3 acre woods,
open fields and they've got an ideal situation for private land. We at Bluff Creek can't do it. So
we were using the city land, unknown that there was something stopping us. We apologize for
doing something that we had thought was perfectly f'me because we weren't being destructive, at
least our group was not. We always had a parent down there with them. That was an ideal
situation. That was a set up part specifically for the purpose. It looked to me about the size of a
hockey rink, maybe a little bit bigger but now you can see why the kids needed the trees, the little
bunkers. They need places to maneuver. To take cover. And that's the ideal situation. Small
piece of wooded area. Could be roped off. We could put fences around it. Some signs requiring
the safety issues, but there is a lot of people in Chanhassen that really enjoy this sport. If the
commission can do something to make it easier for them to enjoy it, the closest park that I know
of that you go out and pay 20, 30, 40 dollars for an afternoon, you're going way up to Eagan or
Lakeville. There's nothing that I know of anywhere in the close proximity. So after school they
want to go out and play for half an hour, you can't run them to each side of the metro area. So
that's where our dilemma is. We'd like to see some controls. Make it somewhat legal so the kids
can have some fun, and there's good learning experience. Thank you.
Spizale: Thanks for your comments.
Hoffman: We'll acknowledge the presence of Chairman Franks.
Franks: On time as usual.
Jason Kayati: My name is Jason Kayati, 8715 Valley View Place, Chanhassen. I'm not
requesting anything down in that specific area but some place in Chanhassen, maybe the city
could set aside somewhere for a local paint ballers to play. I've got a couple good reasons for
that. It gives somebody, or it gives us a place to play when we want to play after school or
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whenever, and it will attract more players around like Chanhassen, Chaska, Victoria area to play
there. And if the city wanted to they could set up a post where they can sell paint balls and refills,
C02, do that. It just gives us something to do after school where we're not bored during the
summer. Over summer vacation we have a place, things to do and that's about it.
Audience: I'm 10 and I play paint ball. It's a really fun sport if it's played properly and it's
really safe. Usually we play at Bluff Creek after school, or on the weekends. And I play with all
my brothers and some of their friends.
Franks: Thanks.
Barbara Kayati: My name is Barbara Kayati and I live at 8715 Valley View Place, and my son
Jason was just up here speaking. A couple points I wanted to clarify in the article that appeared
in the Villager that I think kind of didn't truly portray what really was happening. It had alluded
to the littering that was found back there. That litter has been there for a long, long time. We've
lived in that area for almost 9 years and my husband's gone back there with my son and said that
that litter and trash has been there for quite some time. The other thing the article alluded to was
parents didn't know where their children were and what they were doing. I knew where my son
was at all times and what he was doing. Just like Mr. Ludford said, we didn't, we weren't aware
that that was against the rules and illegal in Chanhassen for them to play paint ball. And just
what I'd like to ask the city is to consider an area where these kids can go and play paint ball.
Thank you.
Franks: Thank you.
Tim Moore: Hi. My name is Tim Moore. I live at 1812 Valley Ridge Trail South. One of my
sons, I actually have two boys 15 and 14 that play down there. I would ask that the city take a
good look at this sport and allow an area to be set aside, like you've done progressively for the
skate boarders. This would not cost a lot, and the reason I say that is, is that the area would not
need anything to, you saw, if you saw the article, what the boys did with the wood that was down
there. You know all the carts, and you could see the age group that it does cross, even Mr.
Graves has said he's played. I know I have played. I've not played down there, but it is
something that I think that could be done relatively inexpensively and I think you can get a lot of
kids who actually, if you did need to have people to be there to monitor that, you could get a lot
of children to do that. And probably for free. And when I saw that, if you do charge a fee for it,
to help replace like the grass and just keep it up, you can get a lot of kids that would want to come
there and then maybe they would be able to do it for nothing and be able to use the area as well
for nothing. So you charge the children 10 bucks, 15 bucks, 20 bucks. Like you say, they go to a
lot of places that can cost you $50 pretty quickly, and if you charge you know $25-30 and you
have an attendant there that's 18, I'm sure he'd want to play, he or she, and they could maybe
play for free. That type of thing to help offset some of those costs that would be involved with
that, but I know how aggressive you were with doing the skateboarding and boys really
appreciated that when they came on line. And I also know there was an expense in paving that
and buying a lot of equipment for that, but I think it's paid off in the long run. And I think that
something like that could be done very inexpensively. It can be done in an area that is away
from everyone else. You probably would even get adults to come there. I'd probably be willing
to do it you know, to spend weekends there at some point. And like the article said, I am one of
the adults that let my children go down there unbeknownst of not checking in before hand.
Claiming ignorance on that part, but we did know where our children were and we were very, we
knew who they were with. At the most with my boys, there was about 8 kids at a time and it
seemed like they never crossed paths with the other children that were down there that were
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younger. The older boys never played with the younger boys. They always seemed to come at
different times and so forth, and I don't think that in that area, that particular area, no one was at
risk of being hurt because there is a pretty dense as far as any shots coming out of there. But
hopefully you consider that, thank you.
Franks: Thank you.
Jeff Fliss: I don't have the water because I'm long winded or anything. My name is Jeff Fliss. I
live at 8710 Osprey Lane and I walk through that area a lot and I walked through that area before
they started playing. My son plays down there and that area was really a mess before, and I do
agree that the article was really slanted. It came across as a very pristine nature area. It wasn't.
If you walk out there now there's old machinery, equipment, rusted pieces, fencing and really
that's probably a lot more dangerous than what's happening out there right now. You look at
these kids, they're all good kids. Good students, and I do really think that they've done a really
good job of identifying an area that gets them out of the way of everybody. If you look at that
specific area, it's down in kind of a hollow. There's a set of railroad tracks on one side, which
prevents them from encroaching on anybody's private property, and the possibility of hitting any
homes. And because they're down in that hollow it's pretty much contained so I think they've
done a very good job of finding an area that they can stay out of everybody's way and do the
thing that they like to do. And I do think that you should give them the benefit of the doubt and
give them an opportunity to find a place to play in Chanhassen. Thanks.
Franks: Thanks.
Joni Nelson: Hi. I'm Joni Nelson. I live at 8610 Valley View Court, and my neighbors have
been playing out there. My son wanted to play out there. I was a little not sure, but saw how
much enjoyment that they had, so I just want to again go over some of the article because I think
that's probably really not showing the full facts and kind of tough in the way that it was written.
First of all, right. The parents were not aware that it was illegal on public property, as well as
private property, that the paint balls are not allowed as per the article. Why would I think that it's
illegal? Because I've seen hunters with orange vests on and real guns. We also have the conceal
and carry guns right now and so to be real concerned about paint balls, I don't know if any of you
have ever played this sport. I have played this sport and I have been hit and I have had welts but
I've also played softball and I've also played baseball and those welts actually take longer than a
paint ball welt to go away. In fact I have one on my leg right now from 4 weeks ago.
Franks: We'll take your word for it.
Joni Nelson: But I was happy that Paul brought out really that there hasn't been any crossfire.
That there has been parents that have been supervising. Kent even talked about how their paint
markers, not a true gun. Mike was good at demonstrating that the paint will wash away. It's not
going to stain the sidewalk or the building sides and so forth. I too did not like the fact that
there's garbage. There shouldn't be garbage. Kids need to know what the boundaries are and so
forth. The rec center should not be hit by paint balls and so forth and I think those rules do need
to be set. I was curious that we had a concentration on that path that people looked at, it was
probably 15 to 20 feet away to find that paint ball field where if you just look 5 feet by the creek
you will see barbwire. And we have talked about barbwire in our area for quite a while when
those paths first went in and that was probably 5 years ago and even when we moved in 8 years
ago we talked about the barbwire. Do you know who's actually taking care of the barbwire?
You're looking at them over there. Do you know who's actually cleaned up some of that area?
You're looking at them over there. So should they clean up what's been there? Sure. And there
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is rusted, old machinery out them. So I do look at this as a positive of what it's done for the
neighborhood. It has brought people together. In our particular development there's 70 houses
and when we were first built we tried to get the city and our developer to actually put in a
playground. No one passed on that but we had a neighbor who built an unusually large
playground for our neighborhood. We have parents out there that are scrapping the pond off so
the kids can go out there and play ice hockey. We've got parents out there in the cul-de-sac
playing street hockey. Our parents are very involved with our kids and they do know where
they're at. And when I look at all the things that they have to do, I mean we're looking at kids
that are from age 10 to 15. They can't drive vehicles. They're on their bike. Our neighborhood
actually can't bike that far to the skate park. So we are looking at some kind of activity around
our area. Would I want my kids to bike over to the skate park? No, I feel that's too far. Would I
prefer my kids to play paint ball than go to Lake Ann? I'm sorry, I would. We've had a lot of
things happen at Lake Ann and paint ball is much safer. Problems arise, and as my company has
trained me, problems mean opportunities and we must understand them in order to provide an
opportunity and a solution. I do not feel that tearing down and vandalizing the forts that these
kids have spent hours on really resolve the problem. We actually need to find some kind of
activity that will keep these 10 to 15 year old kids occupied. And this article is telling us that we
should send our kids to another town. They should go to Buffalo or to Eagan to play. What are
we really telling them? Chanhassen isn't willing to allow them some kind of activity. We're
telling them to leave our city. Aren't we saying that already with our rec center. We go to
Chaska and we go to Eden Prairie. We have 500 acres of open space out there. We pride
ourselves in Chanhassen about that open space. We also have a tough budget. This is very cheap
land. Very cheap sport. My kids are responsible. They purchased their gun and they purchase
all their supplies. They're held responsible. We can also look at corporate America. Where is
corporate America sending their employees to learn strategic planning? It's to the paint ball
fields. That's where I learned how to play. The only disappointment I have tonight is we actually
don't have any girls that have played this sport yet. Thank you.
Tyler Ferrell: Hi. My name'sTylerFerrell.
Stephen Graves: Hi, I'm Stephen Graves.
Tyler Ferrell: And we're coming to the stand to tell you why we like paint ball. You go fin:st.
Stephen Graves: We've had lots of fun with our friends and our family playing paint ball and it's
fun and a great opportunity.
Tyler Ferrell: Just recently it was my dad's birthday and we got him a paint ball gun so he could
play along with us. And he couldn't play with us anymore because the rock, or the article in the
paper and we're hoping that you can change that so that we can play again, instead of having to
go out to a way, way out, just to play for half an hour. This weekend we're going to Wisconsin to
play and we' re going to...Wisconsin so.
Franks: Good job.
Kent Ludford: Frank, you missed we had a 10 minute video.
Franks: I saw a good portion of the video.
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Kent Ludford: I was going to say we're welcome to leave it if you want to watch it or if anybody
wants to watch it again to catch any f'me points. You're more than welcome to just let Todd or
Jerry know to get it back to me.
Franks: My personal experience is I've caught a few of those fine points right in the goggles so,
maybe it doesn't compare. Is that, anyone else wanting to come up and talk about paint ball?
We've, okay. We have.
Tyler Raymond: My name is Tyler Raymond and I live at 35...Parkland Way, Chanhassen and I
don't own a paint ball gun but I've been down there and I've seen them playing there and it
seems like they have a lot of fun and I think you should give them an area to play.
Franks: Thanks Tyler. Okay. You know we're open for all topics tonight. Not anything that
needs to be on the agenda. We just really want to hear from people and if there's anybody else
that's out there who has something that they want to bring up, just like this paint ball issue, I
really want to invite you to come on up and we'd like to hear what you have to say so.
Jacob Graves: Hi. My name is Jacob Graves. I own a paint ball gun and it's just a really fun
sport and we wouldn't want to drive way out to the places.
Franks: Thanks Jacob. They didn't help too much with the laughing did they? That's a lot to get
up and speak.
Clay Muhlenhake: First of all my name's Clay Muhlenhake. I'm the President of our Chaska
Area Football Association and very few kids are very passionate, as passionate and as willing to
get up as you guys are to talk about your sport. I've played paint ball and it's a blast. And it is
corporate America teaching strategy and when you get shot right away, you think wow. I thought
I was doing the right thing. That's not the reason I'm here tonight, but I'm glad I. got to hear you
guys' point of view because the article was slanted. Now I know both sides of the story. No
matter how thin you slice a piece of meat there's always two sides. I'm just here to talk about
football and the program. The youth football program. We've been, I met with Jerry Ruegemer
and Todd several times about our football program, and just want to put in a bid to try to get some
fields done. We're going to put together a letter to offer some financial support to try and get a lit
100 yard field. Right now our current program has about 500 kids involved, all in District 112,
and once you get into the 6th, 7th and 8th grade you play on a 100 yard field. We don't have a lit
100 yard field other than the high school field right now. We've had conversations with Jerry and
Todd about making an offer, trying to get some money raised to put together a 100 yard lit field,
so every Thursday night our 7th and 8th graders don't have to leave town and get home late that
evening. So just like to consider that. We will be putting together a letter within the next month
or so and maybe hopefully by the 2004 season we'll...share the responsibility, as well as the
wealth of a program that's great. And if you guys aren't signed up for football.
Franks: Thank you. Well there's some faces out there that haven't stood up yet so, anybody else
have anything more that they'd like to add? Bring it up in front of the commission. Except for
you.
Ron Roeser: Hi, I'm Ron Roeser. I live at 222 Chan View and I'm a biker, not a paint ball
person.
Franks: And Ron is a former Park commission members.
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Ron Roeser: Yeah.
Hoffman: City council member.
Ron Roeser: And city council. I've done it all, no. I was just wondering about, you know you
get down to the end of the big hill there, is that Audubon? If there's any plan to finish that bike
trail over to the comer where it picks up on Chaska's trail. That and Galpin ends kind of
suddenly too. Are we thinking about putting trails or finishing that?
Franks: Well it's all part of a comprehensive trail plan and what we've been working on is as the
parcels of land develop and we're able to acquire the trail through the development of the
property we connect all the pieces, but what that's left us with is, just like what you're saying.
Trails in one spot and then a gap.
Ron Roeser: It abruptly ends and all of a sudden you've got to go on Lyman, which is kind of
terror trail.
Hoffman: Lyman Boulevard is a county road, and we've been waiting and waiting and waiting,
just as you have, for the county to go ahead and upgrade that road. It's a cooperative project
between the county and the city. It needs to happen and all of the trails have dumped fight down
onto Lyman starting at 101 you pick that up there and Powers, Audubon and Galpin and Lyman is
really seen as the east/west connector to allow for all those loops to come back and forth and also
to get down into Chaska. So independent of the county getting the road built, the trail won't go in
so we're simply waiting for the county to kick that project out.
Ron Roeser: Yeah, I was sure you were aware of that. I just thought I'd point it out. Also the
tunnel under Powers Boulevard's about the ugliest thing you can fide through. I'm just
wondering if they have any plans of painting it. Why not put a mural in there or do something
but it's really ugly. The other tunnels are great. You know really nice. So, and I love the trails.
Franks: Thanks. Come on up. There's no one out there that wants to come and talk about a dog
park? Alrighty.
Barbara Kayati: I own a dog. That would be nice.
Franks: Well come on up and get it on the record. You can have more than one issue tonight.
Oh yeah.
Barbara Kayati: Okay. Barbara Kayati, 8715 Valley View Place. I'm a dog owner and I'd love
to see a dog park here. A fenced in area where we can let our dogs mn. So I'd like you to
consider that.
Franks: Great. We'd like to see that too. Well anybody else? Sure.
Audience: I'd just like to commend the commission, I've lived in Chanhassen for about 8 years
but I' ve had a business here for over, our 20th year now. And you have one fantastic park system
and I know I personally have sponsored a number of ball teams. I have a men' s team for 18 years
and a ladies team for maybe 15 and 16 years and the people who run your park department on a
daily level are fantastic. I think they need a hand.
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Franks: I agree with that. Thanks for sharing that because I know that they have to field all the
calls when things aren't going the way that we want them to go. And I think it's really great for
you guys to hear too that there's a lot, most of the time things are going the way we do want them
to go. You just don't hear that enough so, you hear that tonight. Well if there isn't anybody else
that's even thought of another issue, since you came here maybe for something else and there's
anything else you'd like to get out, let us know. If not what I'd like to do is temporarily suspend
our meeting tonight and we're going to come down and give everybody an opportunity to just
kind of pin us in a comer and talk with us a little bit and we'll give you a little bit of feedback of
what some of our ideas are and then after that we'll try to move on with our business and you can
stay if you want after that or you can certainly leave if you'd like too. So do I require a motion to
temporarily suspend the business? I'll ask for that anyway. Is there a motion to temporarily
suspend the meeting.
O'Shea moved, Atkins seconded to recess the Park and Recreation Commission meeting to
hold an informal open house with the public at this point. Chairman Franks called the
meeting back to order.
Franks: The next item that is before us, well you know what, before we get to that. Todd, I'd just
like to thank you for advertising, for letting people know that we're having our community open
mic. We are kind of focused on one issue today but that's the way it goes. I'd like to consider
maybe doing this more than once a year. Just during some slow times of the year, so it gets to be
something that is known and gets spread around that you can come and bring up anything. Good,
bad or ugly. Hopefully good.
Stolar: Also if we could start a little bit earlier if we do that.
Franks: On those days it might be worth our while to start earlier. Keep the rest of the agenda
light.
Stolar: Do we need to take action on what we heard or have an opportunity to discuss?
Franks: When you're saying take action, if anything were to come up it'd have to be set as new
business on a future agenda.
Stolar: I'm sorry, I meant take action to discuss whether we want this on a future agenda. Not
take action today.
Franks: Discuss of whether any of the things that came up today we want on a future agenda?
Stolar: Yes.
Franks: Well let's take some time to do that. Well Glenn since you bring up the question, why
don't you start with comments that you have.
Stolar: Well I guess I heard three things. One prompted by our chair here. A place to play paint
ball, a lit field and a dog park. And I guess the question being is have these issues come up?
Obviously we're going to talk later about the capital budget which may influence a lot of this but
I think from the paint ball perspective the big issue there is the ordinance, correct?
Franks: Correct.
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Stolar: So the question there would be is do we view this as a recreational opportunity for which
there might be an exception made if there's a designated area. Not saying we're building one.
Not saying you know a lot of other things but do we feel this is a recreation need I guess is where
I'm asking you guys, have you seen it anywhere else come up as a big issue?
Hoffman: It's come up at other cities as a big issue. There's really no one currently that I'm
aware of, and when I say no one I'm talking municipality or public entity that has taken it upon
themselves to say it's an allowed activity in public space. But it's a new issue. If we go ahead
and broaden that spectrum and take a look across the country we'll probably be able to start
finding some municipalities or counties or agencies that have done that. It's a very popular sport.
Very popular activity, but I think any time you talk extreme sports there's always that shock of
well is this allowed. Where do you allow it and once you have to start putting controls on it, then
how do those controls, how are they enforced and what are the activities. This little area, as nice
as it is could not be opened up as a public paint ball area. There's no access to it. The
neighborhood has great access but beyond that there's no public access to it.
Stolar: We did talk to them because I figured this area would not be an appropriate one, but the
question would be more generally like a state park, like or other municipalities and you answered
it, that have areas designated for this type of activity.
Hoffman: Since the article came out and the phone calls started ringing at my house that night,
I' ve had some, taken every opportunity to have a conversation, make some phone calls. We had a
Board meeting today of a statewide parks and recreational professionals. We brought it up as a
topic and it's an issue that people are talking about, but currently there are no public. There's
private, plenty of private ones across the metropolitan, or across the state and no public.
Franks: Well I'm not interested in letting that stop me since we pushed the envelope with a
public free skate park when it was the same kind of issue and it was just through exploring it that
we really kind of I think set the trend for municipalities like our's to go do it. And look around,
everybody's got one now and when we put our's in, nobody had one. So not to say that paint ball
is something that would be viable, but I think it may be, were it the same type of exploration.
Just open up the Fleet Farm ad any Sunday and you'll see how popular it is. They're not putting
ads space in their circular for nothing. They know that that stuff is selling so. Herman Field
Todd.
Hoffman: Need a place for a dog park. Need a place for a paint ball park.
Franks: So the question is, at some future point does the commission wish some report from staff
regarding paint ball? So, and is that something that commission members are interested in?
Okay. Some of the things I'd like to see then is, as Glenn mentioned, who else is doing it and if
they are, what are they doing and how. Some history on the ordinance and it's inception and
why. And liability issues. I don't know if the city attorney's involved in that. And just some
thought about possible locations, if any, required equipment and cost.
Hoffman: Okay. There's really two kinds of parks. The one you saw in the video. You could
fence off anywhere and put in artificial obstacles, or a location in a wooded location.
Stolar: ...where we talked about the Rollerblade rinks not being used that much. I don't know if
that's a good location but those are questions of do we have the space. And I'm not trying to
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suggest that we should do this. I'm just saying they came en masse and we at least owe them the
diligence of exploring what options exist, if any.
Hoffman: Absolutely. Very good group. They contacted, well Kent hit me up in the hardware
store. When you get done buying that paint come and see me.
Franks: As far as the dog park you are indicating we're going to tour a possible site sometime in
the future?
Hoffman: Yep.
Franks: And then lights for fields always has been an issue.
Hoffman: Jerry can probably talk to that. 100 yard fields, I don't know that we have one.
Ruegemer: We do not have a 100 yard field at this point. What we've done for about the last 3,
4, 5 years we' ve played at Lake Ann Park on opposite nights of fall softball and that sort of thing.
What we've done is we've put 80 yard fields on Fields 4 and 5 out there, and kind of pacified
their need for a little while. They've played 3rd, 4th and 5t~ and 6th grade football out there. And
we've done fall soccer on Field number 1. What we're trying to do is kind of utilize our fields as
much as we can for different uses. And now the football association is relatively infant in it's
existence. This is probably their about fourth or fifth year too. We've kind of started with them.
They started with 150 kids approximately. Now they're going to be up over 500. No question
football has a need. There's a lot of kids from Chanhassen playing in that league. They are
getting to the point where they're kind of busting at the seams and need to have those types of
opportunities.
Franks: I'm just thinking that if we had a multi-use lighted field, soccer, football. You know part
of my vision at Bandimere was that it be you know a great tournament location and for that really
you're going to need soccer. A tournament location for that you're really going to need lights on
one of those fields.
Ruegemer: And that certainly could happen and we've had some issues with it being the fourth
wettest year last year in hundred years or on record or whatever. We did do some damage, turf
damage to our fields out there because of some football play. And certainly I've met with Clay,
Dale Gregory and I met with Clay and Rob Norby with the football association and kind of went
through a lot of different things. They're well aware, they want to be good stewards of the fields.
That can certainly happen. We talked a lot about where location might be for a lighted field in
town, and the commission certainly can direct staff on if you want to identify one of the
Bandimere fields, Lake Ann as a designated football field, we can certainly do that. And that
could be a dual purpose field, but you need to dedicate that, if it's going to be football in the fall,
then it needs to be football in the fall. We can't probably do both. And then what needs to
happen in the spring is we need to have some growing time before we schedule that field so do
we keep soccer off it til June 17 June 15th? That all can certainly can happen through creative
scheduling so. And I know Clay's going to put together a letter for the commission to review and
identify some potential sources of income to pay for those lights.
Franks: I know Glenn and I were talking about putting a cell tower up. Trading the lease space
for assistance in getting the lights up. I'm sure that's been done before.
Stolar: So for this one should we wait until we get the letter?
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Ruegemer: I would wait until you get the letter and that's coming to you soon. So football has a
need. I mean soccer has a need and you can certainly double your...
Franks: I mean there's nothing that's going to happen this year anyway obviously, or probably
not next year either so.
Ruegemer: Yeah, it's a significant investment.
Franks: Alright, so we'll wait on that one. And as far as the paint ball, Todd we'll let you slip
that in when you're ready and then on an agenda for a meeting where it seems to fit and we'll
have the proper amount of time to deal with it.
Hoffman: Should be in June.
Franks: In June, oh okay. Any other comments? Questions from commissioners.
Spizale: I hear a lot of people still asking about the dog walking thing. I think that is quite a
popular thing to bring up. I have people asking me that all the time. I know we have a hard time
finding a spot for it but boy if we could, it's something that people really want.
Hoffman: We've got a potential spot.
Stolar: I was just driving in Chicago and they have a little beach by Belmont Harbor for dogs.
Just a beach, right on Lake Michigan by Belmont Harbor. It's been there for years. Kind of fun
to see those dogs out there.
Hoffman: The dogs typically are at either the Lake Susan public access or Lake Ann public
access as far as water's public access.
Franks: Any other comments? Questions? Again thanks Todd in your work in getting this put
together.
Hoffman: That went very well.
Franks: Cookies were a hit. So were the 20 ouncers. All the old people went for the cans and the
kids went for the 20 ouncers. Aldght.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: O'Shea moved, Spizale seconded to approve the Minutes of
the Park and Recreation Commission meeting dated April 22, 2003 as presented. All voted
in favor and the motion carried unanimously.
INITIATE REVIEW OF ACCESSIBILITY EVALUATION FOR CITY OF
CHANHASSEN PARKS.
Franks: We've set it up to take a look at the assisted accessibility evaluation for the city parks.
This was done a long time ago Todd.
Hoffman: Ten years.
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Franks: So our process tonight is to just kind of go over some of the high points with you and ask
some questions and the plan is that this will be updated to take in the current park situation, at
some point.
Hoffman: Yeah, Chairman Franks. Really no need to go over it this evening. I wanted to get the
document into your hands just to begin to, so you can start to take a look through it. It's complex.
It's comprehensive. And then what I will do is go ahead and do a complete overview of this
document for your next meeting and do some photo documentation of what has been done. What
is not completed as of yet, and provide you with a complete assessment of where the city is at
with accessibility. ADA was the biggest thing going for about 4or 5 years when this came out,
and after that it kind of, it' s one of those issues that didn't receive a whole lot of press. And then
with the recent lawsuit, I believe it was in Brooklyn Park, it has some renewed press and so, again
I would never guess it was '93. 10 years ago so it is time that the city go ahead and take a look at
that issue. There's been some great improvements. Hard surface trail one of the biggest ones.
Some other, all the accessibility portable restrooms all came out of this and people are utilizing
those facilities but I can guarantee you there'll be a long ways to go once we go through this
document.
Franks: Could we also include with that Todd and update on the current ADA requirements. My
understanding of ADA is that a lot of it is based on the case law that is being built up as you
know suits are being brought and such, and I'm guessing that since 1993 there's.
Hoffman: Been some changes.
Franks: Been some changes.
Hoffman: Sure.
Franks: Great. Any other comments? Okay, we'll move on.
RECREATION PROGRAMS:
2003 SUMMER ACTIVITIES.
Ruegemer: Thank you Chair Franks. Just the summer program report is more of an FYI for the
commission to kind of give you an idea as to what's going to be happening for the summer. For
that registrations have been coming in. Our summer brochure went out about 3 weeks ago now
and numbers are a little down a little bit but hopefully they'll rebound with that so. We're doing
a couple, one thing I think the commission will be interested in and we're offering for the first
time, a skateboard camp. And Third Layer had called us initiating some conversation on that and
I said yeah, let's go for it so we're going to do it July 14th through the 19th, right here at the park.
A week long camp. I was very apprehensive at fa:st because I didn't know how it would, $160
price tag was the price of the camp, and we've already got our minimum already so it's def'mitely
a go already.
Franks: And what's the take from the city?
Ruegemer: 20 percent. Of all registration so for relatively little work, it could be an additional
revenue source for us. They can take up to 40 kids, all age groups so it's exciting. And we're
having a skateboard demonstration on Saturday. Third Layer's coming down and doing some
tricks and bringing the team and stuff down so it should be fun.
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O'Shea: What time?
Ruegemer: 11:00. I wanted to do it earlier but they talked me into doing it later so the kids could
get up out of bed. But that's kind of a synopsis of the summer. That's kind of what's going on.
Corey's doing a great job on offering different things and kind of sticking to our core programs.
Atkins: Can I ask what kind of a response you got to the Peter Pan play, the Homeward Bound
thing?
Ruegemer: Homeward Bound has been a program that we've struggled with, to be honest with
you. In getting kids signed up for. I know that Corey tries hard to get that to go. It just doesn't
seem to take off, and we' ve had conversations between the two of us and what we can do to try to
improve in those areas. It seems like he cancels more than it goes.
Atkins: But this is something kind of new. It's really similar to the program that we're running
out of the community center.
Ruegemer: Yeah, so I can report back to you on that.
Atkins: Okay, I'd be interested.
Stolar: The Homeward Bound, is that what they ran at Bluff Creek Elementary last year?
Ruegemer: Yeah, Bruce Kirkpatrick.
Stolar: Yeah, my kids loved it.
Franks: Alright, any questions for staff regarding summer programs? Alright, looks good.
Corey' s keeping busy.
Ruegemer: He is.
Franks: That's good. That's a good thing.
Hoffman: We also have a summer intern.
Ruegemer: Lisa Anderson from the U of M will be here until August and we did, I think it was
Glenn, we had talked about our intern budget that got cut. She's working for a stipend every
week.
Hoffman: Out of a program budget.
Ruegemer: Yeah. We hired one less program leader to fund the position so. $100 a week she's
working for. So if there's any special projects the commission would like to direct staff on, on
her behalf, if you'd like her to perform something for the betterment of the commission, please let
me know.
Hoffman: She'll be doing some research on swamps.
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Franks: Would she be interested in doing some research on bringing a midway attraction to our
4th of July festival so maybe in 2 or 3 years we'll be prepared and ready to go.
Ruegemer: If we change our 4th of July date, I think we' 11 be in a lot better shape.
Franks: You've got to get on the list.
Ruegemer: We could certainly direct her to do that Rod.
Franks: I had to put that out there. You know if we would have gotten on the list the very first
time I brought this up 5 years ago we'd be, we'd only have 15 years.
Ruegemer: I've been combing the state Rod looking for somebody for those dates. It's been
tough.
Hoffman: I found one once in Willmar but.
Franks: Alright, thank you Jerry. We'll move right onto the Lake Ann Park operations report.
2003 LAKE ANN PARK OPERATIONS REPORT.
Ruegemer: Thank you Chair Franks, rest of the commission. We did open up the concession
stand last weekend. Had an awesome weekend. Close to $1,000 in sales, which has got to be top
5 all time for Memorial weekend. Typically it' s cold and rainy and kind of cruddy out. I was out
there again today and definitely had to re-order all the sodas and the ice cream and all the good
stuff so it was a fantastic first weekend. And we'll be open weekends until June 7t~ when the
beach opens, and then we'll be open 7 days a week, 11:00 to 6:00. Lifeguards will be on duty
again 10:30 to 8:00 as you know from the contract that we reviewed. So it's going to be coming
up on a good summer again. I don't know with the nice weather now, picnic phone calls have
been going off the phone ringing here. It's just been crazy and so Lisa's been taking some of
those phone calls and it's been nice to have her around so. Been keeping a daily log on the picnic
phone calls as far as dates, so I can share that with the commission at the tail end of the summer if
you'd like and kind of show you kind of the patterns of the requests of certain dates. It looks like
July 26th is the big winner right now, so that Saturday. So but I'll share that with the commission
in a report later on.
Franks: And I noticed your statement that you're not getting much resistance from the fee
schedule.
Ruegemer: That's true. None at all.
Franks: Even from people who are coming back.
Ruegemer: I haven't had a whole lot of the 300 plus dollar reservations with non-resident
businesses, but I have done some and it's been fine. It's been, I'm an old dog doing the same
thing here. It's been, I just need to make sure I look at the fees because it's always been memory,
memory, but now we have the two tier system it forces me to re-evaluate here a little bit so it's
been great.
Franks: Great.
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Ruegemer: And we have had some Boy Scout groups and Cub Scout groups that want to do splat
ball, or not splat ball, but paint ball at day camps in our parks and that has been, we've indicated
that's not an allowed use at this time.
Franks: I'm sure that the city must have some old culverts they want to get rid of, well anyway.
Any questions about the Lake Ann Park operations? No? Okay, great.
SELF SUPPORTING PROGRAMS: SUMMER ADULT SOFTBALL.
Ruegemer: Thanks again. Going on our fourth week of softball now. We started late April and
with a lot of the leagues were up a bit. Thursday night's probably our most popular league.
...the Tuesday night league again we're combining with Eden Prairie. We were flat with about 5
teams for years now, and we have 10 this year. We've had 12 in the past but it's been a great
match for us to partner with a neighboring organization so other than that, everything else is
going real good for softball.
Franks: Good, thank you. Any questions regarding the summer adult softball league. Jerry just
one. You know just thinking back on trends. Is the participation in softball, is it increasing? Is it
staying about the same?
Hoffman: Getting older.
Franks: Are the people getting older?
Ruegemer: It's definitely getting older and kind of what we've seen through the trends is that
there's not a lot of younger population replacing the older generation with that. Numbers are flat
or declining slightly. But hopefully it will cycle. Maybe at some point in time but it's been
across the state...recreation sports commission and it's that way all over the state.
Franks: All over.
Robinson: I'm wondering Jerry if it has something to do with the increase in extreme sports. The
younger folks are doing more of the extreme sports type of things and getting out of the
traditional sports.
Ruegemer: Exactly.
Robinson: So I'm wondering if it will cycle or if we're going to keep seeing more extreme sports
coming our way.
Ruegemer: There's a lot more opportunities in other areas. Golf is one and you know a lot of
people bike or jog or skate, Rollerblade and other things.
ADMINISTRATIVE:
2003 PARK AND TRAIL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM (CIP).
Hoffman: Thank you Chair Franks, members of the commission. I see this as a good news, bad
news report. Little heavy on the bad news, but the good news is that over the past half a dozen
years or so, Fund 410 it's called, or the park dedication, park and trail dedication. It's official
title is Park and Trail Acquisition and Development Fund. Fund 410. Has been called upon to
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finance a variety of very nice improvements in the community parks and trails. The reason, one
of the reason it was so capable of taking on those large projects has to do with the '97
referendum. That was passed. Generated millions of dollars in park improvement funds, which
were then put into use and actually gave some leeway in the park dedication fund to allow it to
build up. That fund was at an all time high of about a million 9 and it kept cycling in that general
area for a number of years. But after the referendum improvements were complete and projects
had no other funding sources financed through Fund 410, we're starting to hit the bottom of the
cash reserves. The current cash balance as of last week, $767,000 in the bank. There's a
correction to your packet, and that correction is on the remaining 2003 revenue forecasts,
remaining revenue, park dedication, again that's an estimate, approximately $200,000. It's very
volatile depending on which projects come through the door in 2003. The park dedication
ordinance was just changed to state that all park dedication funds are collected of the signing of
the plat. Before, previous to that it was one-third was collected at the time of the plat. Two-third
was collected at the time of the building permit, so go over to the Americlnn and Houlihan's and
you look immediately south, Presbyterian Homes is going to build hundreds of units there.
That's like an $80,000 or $90,000 check that will come to the city in park dedication. If that
happens this year, this $200,000 will be surpassed. If it doesn't happen, you'll never reach that
$200,000 this year, so a single project in today's world can make the difference. Power Ridge
Apartments is another one. Power Ridge Apartments just south on Powers. If they come in with
their second phase this year, again big...$60,000 to $80,000. In that range. So that gives you an
idea about those numbers. The grant is just to clean up billing back to the DNR for the grant
money, which was dedicated to the 101 trail. Approximately $350,000 to $400,000 will be
collected. There was $500,000 eligible, or available but there was not that much money
expended on the project that was eligible for reimbursement from the DNR so we'll collect about
$400,000 back. And then the addition is an $81,000 transfer from the library project over to the
City Center Park project. So the City manager informed me after I published this memorandum,
distributed it, that that additional cash transfer will be coming in. So the bottom line to that is
now we're not in a negative situation estimate at the end of the year. We're in a positive $16,000
estimate position. Briefly I'll talk about the liabilities that we have going on in 2003. City Center
Park, you've seen the activity. Contractor recently pulled off to allow NSP or Xcel to get their
work done with those power issues out there. The Pulte trail, if you've driven 41, you've seen the
Pulte trail going in. Those trail segments, both the Pulte and Vasserman Ridge projects were
arranged with the developer as, they come in for a development contract with the City. We
stated, you build the trails. The comprehensive trails. We'll pay you for that. We'll pay you for
the rock, for the asphalt, and you go ahead and assume the responsibility for the cost associated
with engineering, planning, overhead costs, those type of things. Previous to that, the city would
say no. We want to take your money. We're going to collect your fees and then we're going to
build the trails because we want to build them how we want to build them. It ended up to be not
the best practice because you get into all sorts of conflicts with their contractors and your
contractors and timing and who's going to do this first and who's going to do that and where is
the trail going to be and oh our homeowners didn't know the trail was going to be in that location,
so we changed that about a half a dozen years ago and it's worked out very nicely for us. So both
the Pulte trail and the Vasserman Ridge trail will go in and they will be billed for them. The
Highway 101 north trail has about $75,000. That may go up to $100,000. It may go down to
$50,000, depending on how much clean-up work is left out there in the 101 north trail. You've
seen that.
Stolar: Plus there are change orders that they talked about yesterday.
Hoffman: Yes, yesterday. And that number is, it will either go up or down depending on how
large that change order is. The Marsh Glen trail is a trail down near Mission Hills which is being
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completed over the next 2 weeks. Roundhouse renovation, approved by the City Council at
$25,000 level. Trash receptacles, that's a f'mal order of a 3 year order. Skate park improvements
coming in and those were on the fax machine this evening, and then the connection trails
retainage, that's the retainage for seeding on Highway 101 south trails. So there you have an
estimate of $1,062,000. That puts our cash down to a negative $65,000 with that additional
transfer I talked about, back up to a positive $16,000. To give you some idea of what's been
happening in this account over the past few years. The million 6 and then with the other items
that are included in this year, we're at about $1,200,000 in expenditures or investments in this
year in park dedication. Last year I believe it was fight around $900,000. Year before a million 6
so those are large capital investments coming out of Fund 410. Next year it will be right around
zero, or $100,000. Annual revenues are averaging 200-250, up to $400,000 in a high year,
depending on how much building activity is taking place in the city. We have future obligations
or future liabilities that will be placed against this fund, specifically the two trails out on
Arboretum Village. The industrial park out on Highway 5 and Highway 41. There's two lots
that remain there to be developed that are east of Century Boulevard. Same thing. Development
Contract written. The City will pay for these trails that are on thebacks of these lots when you're
ready to develop. When a building permit comes in for that lot, it trips the development contract
specifying that they will build the trail and bill us for it. So those two lots are going to come in.
Those trails will cost X amount of dollars. $100,000-$150,000. One good thing is that still is in a
TIF district which has an excess TIF balance and we may be able to finance those through that so,
depending on how that issue is determined will give you some potentially extra leeway in your
budget in the future years.
Stolar: We' ve gotten park dedication fees for those already then?
Hoffman: Yes, park dedication fee is coming in. You've got one-third. You'll collect two-thirds
when they come in. The remaining two-thirds.
Stolar: Which will be less than the trail costs or?
Hoffman: Oh yes.
Stolar: Far less?
Hoffman: Far less. On a lot like that, 2-3 acre lot, $7,000 an acre or $21,000-$30,000 for a little
larger lot. $7,000 per acre, and you've already collected a third of that so it's not going to be less
than that. So there's tough times ahead in capital financing for the city in the area of parks and
recreation. Many projects were put on hold. Fund 410 was looked at from a variety of different,
what I would call philosophies. The park commission had a philosophy that you wanted to
continue on and do certain things. The City Council had limited resources to complete the
Highway 101 trail. They looked to this fund. We have limited resources to trmance the park in
front of City Hall. This fund was looked at to finance that, and I knew we were headed in this
direction. I actually thought we would be here this evening prioritizing the remaining
improvements that we wanted to see happen. That's not the case. We're here simply to say that
we are staffed and we will just really be taking a no spend position for at least this year and then
we'll evaluate 2004 coming up a little later in the budget cycle. I'll answer any questions that the
commission has and if I can't answer them tonight I'll bring them back to you in a future packet.
Franks: I think we should take our advice of our state government and they can bond for
freeways, heck we can bond for park improvements. You know I'm being a little funny but that
might be the wave of the future for any kind of large capital projects that we'd be looking at so. I
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know that that's not questions we've really had to face as a commission about the in's and out's
of bonding so when we have our discussion, that might be something that would be helpful for all
of us is a little mini education on how the city goes about bonding for projects.
Stolar: Plus maybe some...see what other park districts have done. What have been recent bond
funds approved for cities like Chan that have gotten older and losing some of the development
park dedication.
Franks: And as we'll also have to consider at what point will we want to push for another
referendum. Park referendum.
Hoffman: Well that's what we're talking about is park referendum bonding. We were at a
similar position financially speaking back in 1994-95. The commission sitting where you're at
this evening were saying you know what, man we're growing. We've got all these people
coming in. The park dedication fund is not keeping up with what we want to accomplish. How
are we going to make this happen? There are people that come in and stand at that podium and
say we'd like this facility. We'd like that facility, and after about a year and a half, 18 months of
that they just threw up their hands and they said, we can't do it. We have to have a referendum
and they made a recommendation to City Council and at that time the City Council agreed.
Franks: Okay. Thanks for putting this together Todd.
Stolar: Any questions?
Franks: Sure.
Stolar: You gave us a sheet back in September, and I'm trying to reconcile some things. This
$500,000 additional expenditure for the City Center Park from the September memo.
Hoffman: Okay. September memo of last year?
Stolar: Yeah.
Hoffman: Last year I was, it was my hope and at least I had the, at that time the backing of the
city manager that we would only use $200,000 out of park dedication for this project. No other
available resources or financing source came to the forefront and so the entire amount was taken
out of Fund 410.
Stolar: It has been or has been passed by the City Council to do it?
Hoffman: Approved by the City Council. The contract has been let. The funding source has
been identified, and so now it's on paper that those dollars will come out of Fund 410.
Stolar: I'm sorry, the contract has been signed for that amount?
Hoffman: The contract has been signed for 657 and change and then we have costs for the
architect and other costs in there so the number, the budget number is $700,000 that has been
designated.
Stolar: Because I'm not against our recommending to City Council that they review that plan and
reduce the expenditure.
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Hoffman: At this time, I mean we can't, it's been let. Contract's been let.
Stolar: Unless you get change orders.
Hoffman: Yeah we can do deducts, which we typically they get back 70 to 80 cents on the dollar
for it so.
Stolar: Has the City Council seen this?
Hoffman: The City Council receives this in their packet. I also emailed it directly to their
desktop letting them know the importance of the document and that it is in their packet but I
wanted to make sure that they saw it. I know there was some comments from council members to
the city manager specifically revolving around the fact that they did not want to see a deficit
budget and so that's where the additional $81,000 was brought to my attention. That that transfer
will be coming to the library project into Fund 410 so.
Franks: From library referendum dollars or from the general fund expenditures?
Hoffman: Library referendum dollars which were designated for landscaping for the library,
which were deducted from the library project and picked up by the City Center Park project for
coordination reasons. Instead of having two contractors out there, one doing a very small
landscaping project on the library, we just crossed it over and did it as one project.
Stolar: The other question I have is, where did the one million dollars last year go? What were
the major things, because I see some of them still here.
Hoffman: Highway 101.
Stolar: Was how much of that? About 700.
Hoffman: Something like that, yeah. I can actually run upstairs and grab those. Between that
and the 101 south project, those were the, that's where the cash went.
Stolar: Both projects because you have the 101 north here at 500, the south would have probably
been another couple hundred.
Hoffman: Yeah it was 250-270. Both with 101 south and the connection projects of Bluff Creek.
Stolar: Is it, I mean and I can give you those, there's a sheet that we had at Eden Prairie that
basically just went through each year. It was your balance. Here's what we took in. Here's what
we, could we have one of these for like since 2000 so for the years you mentioned.
Hoffman: Sure. You bet.
Stolar: Then we could just keep this on an ongoing basis because it would show, I would ideally
start with the referendum. Show what we got for that money because that would be helpful if we
ever choose to do another one, to show this is what we got for it. A lot of things out there. We'd
just like to project that type of return to the citizens.
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Hoffman: Prior to the referendum a couple hundred thousand came in and a couple hundred
thousand went out every year. That's just basically how it operated. And we'll maybe be back to
that for a while until that funding can be...
Stolar: I still would like to know what the 700,000 might be savable reasonably savable if any.
Because there was, I saw the architecture drawings, what they were doing. It's going to be very
nice. When you have a zero budget you can't afford very nice. You can afford nice.
Hoffman: That discussion did play out. The original project was a million 1, million 2 and.
Stolar: Yeah, I saw some of the reduction.
Hoffman: Then there was the $300,000 project is for bare to nothing and so I think it was seen by
the commission and the council and the Planning Commission that this was middle of the road.
Franks: And the library board.
Stolar: Okay, thank you.
Franks: Glenn, I hear what you're saying about kind of the philosophy behind the 410 and
making our statement. In some sense I think we were pretty clear beforehand about being, what
our philosophy was about how those dollars should be spent and for what types of projects and
the City Council has decided with that information to go forward and take the information that
they have.
Stolar: The former City Council correct. Some overlay but not, some new ones too.
Franks: Correct. Correct, yeah. The former City Council that set the budget for this year. And
in our joint meeting we again talked about that type of philosophy so I'm really hoping that at
least for the future that message is going to be clear. Without necessarily coming across as being
antagonistic so. But we are going to have to keep the message coming I think so it doesn't get
lost.
Hoffman: The important message to continue is that maintenance versus new capital. Right now
there's really no big debate.
Franks: Well in some sense I'm glad that it's being spent down to nothing because it forces
people to start making the choices that we've been saying need to have been made long ago, and
when there's resources available you know why make them. But we're at the point now where a
plan is going to have to be developed for maintenance and replacement.
Hoffman: Ten wood playgrounds. We had 5 of them in this year's CIP. We almost bulldozed
those playgrounds in January. We made the call we'd better wait and see how this entire budget
plays out. The $500,000 for the library and so we held off and we would have had 5 parks with
no playgrounds.
Franks: But in some sense you know those wood playgrounds, they've got to go. And it may be
this is the point where we say look you know, we have to take them down.
Hoffman: Read this month's magazines. That's it.
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Franks: And when people start seeing that they have no playground and they begin to understand
why they don't have a replacement, then we can start working to figure out these things are going
to happen in a realistic way.
Hoffman: Probably a work session item for the commission here this summer. We'll take a good
park tour which really sets you up for a capital discussion, and then come back and have a
brainstorming session.
Franks: Any other comments or questions regarding this issue? Susan you're getting an
education here.
Robinson: It's very wonderful.
4TM OF JULY TRADE FAIR.
Ruegemer: The trade fair is currently now called the Business Expo with that.
Hoffman: We're just checking to see if you want a booth.
Franks: Yes we do.
Hoffman: Okay. Alright, and then I'll work with the commission, well we'd better get
something planned so do you want to talk about it tonight? What we would like to have as far as
displays.
Franks: We want these nice maps available. Do we have extras?
Hoffman: Absolutely.
Franks: Okay. And those little coloring kits, if you've got those laying around. Or if there's any
money left in the budget, but something child oriented to hand out as opposed to a button or
something, would be really nice.
Atkins: The chip clips were pretty popular.
Franks: The chip clips were popular actually.
O'Shea: Good point.
Franks: You know I think that almost works better than trying to do any of the contests that
we've done. And I would like to try the suggestion box thing again.
Stolar: Thought that was good.
O'Shea: That's because you got a couple compliments in there. That's why you liked it.
Franks: People love me. Is there anything else that you'd like to see at the booth?
Atkins: Is there any kind of mini survey we could do? Like what do you think about a dog park?
Yes? No? Silly?
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O'Shea: I know the rec/aquatic center had fallen out of talking about it. Something like that to
get the interest back. Or knowing I should say.
Atkins: School issue too, I mean just to make people aware it might be coming up.
Hoffman: We could do a top ten list. Here are items. What are you top ten?
Franks: You know let's do that. Just rank them. If we have like the ten and people could just
rank them and turn it in.
Stolar: If we end up where we have more than ten, maybe just ask them to mark their top seven
or...paint ball.
Atkins: Great feedback.
Franks: And tallying those up sounds like a good intern project.
Stolar: How many weeks do we have this intern?
Ruegemer: 15 more.
Hoffman: Okay, thanks.
4TM OF JULY PARADE.
Ruegemer: The parade, did everybody get a copy of that in their packet? Apphcation form. If
there's anybody that'd like to participate in the parade, either being in a float or a car or whatever,
the deadline on the application that is all included with that is June 13th. For the parade
application deadlines so the parade's going to be the same route again this year. 2:30 start. Start
from the Chapel Hill area and work it's way back down through town up to Santa Vera, back
over.
O'Shea: Is there an application for the booth at the Business Expo too?
Hoffman: We can take care of that.
Franks: I just have a comment about the parade, just from my experience last year. You know
there was the theme last year, and I'm just wondering if the political participants would have
some small requirement to embrace the theme in some fashion up to them.
Hoffman: Let's bring it up to the parade committee.
Franks: I mean it's just like a thought because it, you know I don't know. It just was my thought
sitting there watching the parade and kind of heating the people around me and paying attention.
Hoffman: Well it is a political parade.
Franks: Yeah, and that's okay. But I think that should be part of it. But to have the participants
in some way, whether it's in their decorations or it's in what they're handing out, or their stickers
or whatever, that some way more embrace the theme of the parade for that particular year.
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Hoffman: I don't know that that's been talked about. Probably a good discussion topic.
O'Shea: I think one of the criteria that the judges uses how well the entry represents the them.
That year's theme.
Franks: Right, and I'm just thinking for like the political participants, where the ones that just
didn't seem to be embracing the theme. Of course they have an agenda which is f'me, but you
know they can maybe find some way to embrace the theme.
Hoffman: Anything else with the parade?
O'Shea: I've got a question. I know Boy Scouts are out selling, has the city ever tried to sell
things around the route? You know pops and, as a fund, I mean a revenue source.
Ruegemer: We have and the parade committee's kind of taken the stance that they want to kind
of keep it more to the younger service organizations. Like the Girl Scouts, the Boy Scouts, more
so than opening it up to the Rotary and the Lions to do that sort of thing. That's the stance that
they' ve taken.
O'Shea: Okay, because I know last year I know it was so weather dependent, but last year a ton
of pop and water's could have been sold. There weren't enough crews along the, you know
people, it's a great money generator for either the city or a group. Okay, so you don't want the
city to look at a revenue producing.
Ruegemer: The parade committee makes those policies and decisions.
Hoffman: Just so everyone's aware, the parade committee is separate from the city. They're not
associated with the city except that they are a committee that does an event at the 4th of July for
the benefit of the city. And so they're political decisions, their agenda decisions are decided by
their committee and we participate obviously in planning and scheduling of those events but.
Franks: Is the city contributing financially to the parade?
Ruegemer: We will if there are shortfalls. They're in charge of doing their own fund raising for
the parade.
Hoffman: To date we haven't... And then there is a second event after the parade this year when
the, what are they calling it officially? The band jam or putting on a concert. It's going to be
back under the tent so the tent is here on the 4th so the Rotary will continue to sell their
refreshments and the bands will play on and so people who want to leave the parade and come up
to another event can come right back up to the big top...
Spizale: Good idea.
Hoffman: And that's Joe Scott, a citizen who's gearing that effort on behalf of the community.
Ruegemer: It's a fundraiser for the good shelf?.
Robinson: He's my neighbor. He does local things too right in our neighborhood. We hear him.
He gets everything approved through the city through but we do hear him.
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Hoffman: And the one thing we forgot to mention is remember during the Business Expo we'll
need volunteers from the commission to man that booth.
Franks: Oh absolutely.
Stolar: Can you send us an e-mail with the times?
Hoffman: You bet.
Franks: And how about the prize...
Ruegemer: ...would you like some artistic involvement with that?
Franks: I have no artistic ability at all whatsoever so you would not want my involvement. Just
curious. Thank you Jerry.
RECOGNITION FOR BOKOO BIKES FOR TRAIL MAP PARTNERSHIP.
Franks: Thanks Todd for giving us that letter.
Hoffman: You're welcome. I'll let the memo speak for itself. It's a $5,000 contribution to
produce, or help produce this map. At Monday, June 9th Bokoo Bikes and their representatives
will be presented with this plaque. This framed edition of the map as the Bokoo Bikes...and the
map has been very well received. We hope, we believe that they're getting the value out of the
product and they're sold...sponsor of the map. It was their idea. They contacted us.. Initially we
started out at about a 50/50. It was their artistic folks, their consultant that we worked with at the
time. Got a great bargain and a good product too.
O'Shea: When did you say you're recognizing that? When are they getting that?
Hoffman: City Council meeting June 9th. Right here in from of the City Council. Mayor Furlong
will present to Bokoo Bikes, their representative.
COMMISSION MEMBER COMMITTEE REPORTS. None.
COMMISSION MEMBER PRESENTATIONS.
Stolar: Just a quick update on the City Council meeting. Two relevant points. One was, they
did, there was on the consent agenda the future change orders for the additional work on Highway
101 north trail. Some of it, and it was pulled by Councilperson Lundquist to discuss separately
because his concern was if it's repair for work done poorly, we shouldn't be paying for it. And
he, I don't know, I think her name was Teresa.
Hoffman: Teresa Burgess, City Engineer.
Stolar: The City Engineer is going to work with them. They're going to review each change
order and say whether it's something that they should pay for, or if it is a true change order that
we need to pay for. And then any changes will come out of the 410 fund, so it would come out of
park dedication fees. But it was good that he brought it up to make sure that we aren't being
charged for things that they had to correct. The only other thing, which I'll just provide my two
points that I wanted to talk about. When John Wolff made his presentation he did, and also
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Lieutenant Widmer because of the new conceal and carry law, they just brought up that for the
sheriff' s office obviously it's going to be a bit of work, and then on the fire chief, he mentioned
that his policy will be that people, the volunteer fire department people will not carry and
questions were brought up are other fire departments doing that? What are they doing and it
varied. But my question is, is this something that we should start thinking about looking into to
see if there's going to be a need for any policies with regard to the Rec Center or fields or things
like that. We just did the tobacco policy. So I'm just wondering, has that come up at the State
level yet? And maybe I will defer, given the late hour for a future meeting but if we can at some
point bring that up. What park districts are thinking about.
Hoffman: There's a lot of discussion. Just about any event that you go to in the past few days
and we'll see where it kind of falls out. City Hall will have a policy. Employees will have
policy. As an employee of the City of Chanhassen, you will not be able to carry a weapon on
duty during your employment. But municipal buildings are not exempt. You can carry it right
into this building so.
Stolar: And I think the other question would be, since there are many other states that already
have these laws in effect, not to overload your intern but it's another question. What are park
districts doing in those states? Since that would be precedent that would be out there.
Hoffman: You bet.
Franks: Well you jumped the gun. I was going to pick this up in the administrative packet
reading some of the tobacco articles and such but thought too is, what is the policy at, on city
owned recreation property while there's city sponsored programming occurring. I mean is that
something that we need to take a look at. Having some type of a policy during soccer games and
parents packing some heat so. I mean I don't know. I have no idea.
Hoffman: It's something that again everybody's talking about. Let's see where it shakes out and
see what the changes are down at the legislature with the law.
Stolar: Because right now if we did anything we'd have to tell each individual. I think there's all
sorts of, but I mean I think it's worth, before too long to actually have just that informational item
for us to kind of say here's what other park districts have done. Here's what the city has done.
So we understand what already is occurring.
Hoffman: There's a variety of fronts to this. There's obviously a very emotional and very hyped
up front, and then there's also a group who say this law really doesn't change much. If an
individual wanted to carry a gun anywhere before yesterday or today, is going to carry a gun
wherever they want to if they want to do that. So the law changes the environment but doesn't
change the likelihood that something bad will happen.
Stolar: And really the law changed, if I understand correctly, just the process to get permits.
Permits have already been allowed out there, but it also did change some of the processes for
excluding and that's what they're really debating potentially.
Hoffman: Yep.
Franks: Great. Any other commission member presentations?
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Atkins: I just have a little item that you guys might think is interesting. I attended a Planning
Commission meeting regarding the rezoning of the St. Hubert's cemetery property directly across
from my house. Did they approve that?
Stolar: Yes, I'msorry.
Atkins: And St. Hubert's is going to put in a park there. It will be years before the cemetery
extends all the way down to 101. They're planning walking paths, a fountain, gardens. It will be
just.
Stolar: They're going to extend the sidewalk all the way down. They're going to put in a street
light. Street lighting to, and there was discussion also about the old church. About the re, starting
the discussions about maybe having it go back to St. Hubert's and so they agreed. They said that
they would be willing to talk with Todd about it. Todd Gerhardt about it.
Hoffman: It's owned by the city now.
Stolar: Because I think the Councilperson Peterson said, I'm not sure the city should be in the
business of running a church or owning a church.
Hoffman: There's also on the plan a future overpass by others. By others which goes over the
railroad tracks. So the pedestrian bridge drops right down on the south side of the tracks. It's
going to be this skinny little trail system in public corridor on the north side, and so there's
always been this conversation should we build an overpass so people can get from downtown in a
more convenient route, up and down the pedestrian overpass.
Franks: Thank you.
ADMINISTRATIVE PACKET.
Franks: Any comments regarding the administrative packet? Thanks for including the memo
from Lori regarding the pond reconstruction.
Hoffman: You're welcome. One update on the tobacco issue. Council, Jerry attended a work
session last night with the City Council. Council took up this issue and acted to take no action on
a tobacco use policy for the city of Chanhassen. One area that I still have concerns about is the
skate park, so if the commission would like to talk about that in the future. I approach kids there
all the time. I do not have the ability to tell them not to smoke a cigarette if they're, what's the
legal age, 197 18 for cigarettes. 18 years old at the skate park. I think that's an environment
where modeling good life style choices should be, but then again I think the council may have a
position on it. They're doing it at the beaches, so 19, 18 year olds can smoke at the beach and
little kids can watch that, why can't little kids watch people smoke when they're at the skate park.
Franks: But it was not a recommendation not to allow right on the beach was it?
Hoffman: Yes.
Ruegemer: Aquatic areas.
Hoffman: Aquatic areas, beaches, skate park.
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Franks: And inside the play structures?
Ruegemer: Playgrounds.
Franks: So they settled for the four places we recommended that tobacco use not be allowed.
Hoffman: Correct.
Franks: And on that recommendation they decided to take no action.
Hoffman: Correct.
Stolar: Did they give a reason why?
Hoffman: No reason why. They gave, they talked about specific philosophies I think of each city
council member and I believe there was no consensus that they should take any action. Things
like.
Ruegemer: I think they really felt that it wasn't their place to dictate, for us to decide whether
they smoke or not. They're taxpayers. If they want to smoke during, on the bleachers during a
ball game, that's their prerogative. It's not for us to preach.
Franks: Did they send it back down for any further clarification from the park commission?
Hoffman: No. That's why I'm asking if you still believe strongly in any one of those areas, skate
park, beaches, that you may want to modify your recommendation and re-present that to the City
Council.
Stolar: But how would we modify? What specific thing? See that look confused, because I
would have been happy to show up at a discussion with them to answer questions. Are we going
to the more frequent meetings with them? Working sessions with them or that hasn't been
decided.
Hoffman: The next joint meeting has not been determined. They have one with the Planning
Commission coming up in June, but they have not set the calendar for your next joint meeting.
To change you motion would simply mean okay so now, if you believe the skate park's an area
that they shouldn't be smoking then talk about that one specifically. Or beaches. Or other areas
that you feel very strongly there should not be smoking or tobacco use allowed. The skate park's
directly adjacent to a school. The school property is tobacco free. The rec center is tobacco free,
and so if you're on any property at the rec center, you can't smoke whether you wanted to or not.
In the bleachers or somewhere else so the fact that we have a joint powers agreement with the
school district who does have a policy against tobacco use, mandates that we have no tobacco use
at that location. But any city owned property, the City Council at least last night did not act on
restricting tobacco use at any of those locations.
Robinson: So do we need to make a motion to put that on a future agenda to discuss that or can
we just ask you to put that on?
Hoffman: You could just ask or make a motion. You'd need a consensus among the
commissioners.
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Robinson: That's what I'm wondering.
Franks: Well, my first thought is that this strikes as micro management of the City Council on
park and recreation issues. And you know this was an issue that we debated significantly.
Secured input and developed what I believe to be a very reasonable recommendation, really
looking out for the welfare and safety of not only the taxpayers but their children as well. And
for no action to be taken without any further direction or questions being directed to park
commission is.
Hoffman: It took what, 3 or 4 months to get it on the agenda.
Franks: Yeah. So I would certainly be in favor of this issue coming up again on a future agenda.
Hoffman: Is there a consensus among the commission?
Robinson: I would agree.
Atkins: I agree.
Spizale: I agree.
Franks: We'll note then that it's unanimous by all commissioners that this be, that the tobacco
use issue be again placed on our agenda at some future time for consideration and potentially
further recommendation directed to the City Council regarding this issue.
Robinson: I just wanted to ask a question Chairman Franks about, I did read the minutes from
that, I think it was the November meeting and read through that whole discussion because that's
something that interested me personally and wanted to find out what happened, but were there
people from the city that came and voiced their opinion on this by anything, or was it just
something that commission looked at?
Franks: Well not that day there wasn't anybody in the audience, but I know you received the
staff, staff had been receiving inquiries into the office and there's a trend certainly at the
administrative packet that kind of outlines the trend, but that had been occurring for some time
that other municipalities and recreation districts had been looking at this issue and creating
policies and such and so we believed it was really time for us to consider it as well.
Robinson: Right, and I'm wondering if the City Council's thinking it's, it can't be enforced
because there's not city people there all the time. That's always an issue but reading in the
packet, yeah it' s not always enforced. If somebody goes there, they can enforce it, but just seeing
the signage put there deters people from it and you know, there's anyway I won't get into it. You
went through it all but.
Hoffman: That was one of the big topics last night is that it' s not enforceable.
Robinson: Well it's not but.
Franks: Well we have our dog ordinance that's obviously not enforceable either, but we have that
ordinance as well so I mean it' s.
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Stolar: Well in our discussion we admitted that, right? We said what we said, I agree with Susan
that the signage at least gives people a chance to notice it and maybe some people will say okay,
I' 11 go walk somewhere else then. I'm not going to do it here.
Robinson: Well I guess my point is too is that there's a lot of smokers that don't agree with
smoking around children and I'm wondering if we can, I don't know, have an open microphone
for that issue at some point. I don't know if that's what you do for a particular issue or if
somehow we can get some residents to come. Maybe the City Council needs to see that it's not
just the commission that's looking seriously at this but other people in the city also see it as
something that's important.
Franks: If it's on the agenda people are certainly invited to offer public comment so.
Stolar: Put it on our survey at the booth.
Robinson: I was just thinking that.
Franks: Add it in.
Stolar: You' ve got to word it appropriately though. But that's a possibility. Maybe we are out of
touch. If we are, then we'll know. I mean it's not scientific but it's, we're gauging.
Robinson: No, but it gives you an idea.
Hoffman: We received a letter a couple weeks ago. A gentleman didn't appreciate standing on
the side lines at soccer games when smoking was going on so he pulled his child out of the
program.
Robinson: Well there's plenty of research out there that states second hand smoke even outside is
very injurious to people, so the research is there.
Hoffman: Anything else in the Admin packet? Geese? Mosquitoes?
Stolar: Why can't the mosquitoes go after the geese?
Franks: Will we be spraying?
Hoffman: We will. We won't.
Franks: No, but I mean they will be spraying in Chanhassen this summer.
Hoffman: They're allowed to. Whether they will or won't is up to them.
Franks: Okay. They've already started dropping their granular stuff so we've seen it now
already, but I'm still concerned about the lack of publication of the times when that is occurring.
That has bothered me for years. I don't know if there's any way to communicate that to them that
we would really I think appreciate some notification it will be occurring this week or we plan on
doing our granular drop.
Hoffman: And when you say communication, do you mean on the news media or at your
doorstep?
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Franks: You know news media would be fine. The Villager or something. Just some attempt to
be made.
Hoffman: I'll drop them an e-mail. That organization I think for a long time enjoyed a big
honeymoon where they weren't, they didn't have to answer to a lot of people. Now there's some
public scrutiny but still the mechanics of having that large of an organization contact people in
neighborhoods across the 7 county metropolitan area, is just, I don't know how.
Franks: No, even if it was something just in the paper that this week or in such a week we plan
on doing our.
Hoffman: We'll see what they say. I know they try to stimulate a lot of media coverage of their
programs and they're fairly successful for an organization of their size. You see them on the
news channels all the time.
Franks: Sure. And I want them to do it. Yeah, go ahead.
Hoffman: Last item of discussion, the school issue. We've had a meeting with the district. The
staff has stated that we are in support of a school, either a high school or a middle school being
constructed in this community. We've identified locations south of Lyman Boulevard in that
2005 MUSA area. District 112 will likely have a referendum this fall. There will be likely a
question on them that says shall the district sell bonds to purchase school for, land for furore
schools. How they identify those sites is up to the district. They probably will not be identified
on the actual ballot but it will be identified through publicity and other types of promotion and
information. Information, not promotion, for the referendum. The City Council will likely send
out a letter of intent to the school board stating, in the administration, stating that this is what we
would like to see happen. This is what we are willing to commit to such a process. Just so you're
aware of that. If that's an area that interests you as, either personally or as a commission, you
want to keep on top of that because that referendum's going to happen this fall. The district will
most likely decide that, or they have to decide that language right around the first of July. For
that question.
Franks: Middle school with a pool.
Hoffman: Oh sure. We talked about a pool. We talked about a theater. We talked about outdoor
sporting venue. We talked about bubbles so, we talked about a lot of nice facilities that could
occur at such a location. The current philosophy is that 80 acres be purchased by the school
board. 40 acres of that will be paid for by the city through park dedication dollars over a period
of time. So you would, as the development comes in through an agreement with the school
district. You would pay back those dollars for the 40 acres of the city owned property with park
dedication generated in that park service area.
Franks: It's a deal. Any other questions or comments regarding the administrative packet?
Seeing none then I' 11 entertain a motion to adjourn.
Robinson moved, O'Shea seconded to adjourn the meeting. Ail voted in favor and the
motion carried. The Park and Recreation Commission meeting was adjourned.
Submitted by Todd Hoffman
Park and Rec Director
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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CITYOF
CHAN EN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen. MN 55317
Administration
Phone: 952.227.1100
Fax: 952.227.1110
Building Inspections
Phone: 952.227.1180
Fax: 952.227.1190
Engineering
Phone: 952.227.1160
Fax: 952.227.1170
Finance
Phone: 952.227.1140
Fax: 952.227.1110
Park & Recreation
Phone: 952.227.1120
Fax: 952.227.1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone: 952.227.1400
Fax: 952.227.1404
Planning &
Natural Resources
Phone: 952.227.1130
Fax: 952.227.1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone: 952.227.1300
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Senior Center
Phone: 952.227.1125
Fax: 952.227.1110
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TO:
FROM:
Park and Recreation Commission
Todd Hoffman, Director of Parks and Recreation
DATE: June 18, 2003
SUB J:
2003 4th of July Business Fair
Wow! 100% participation from the Commission for the Business Fair booth.
Congratulations, that sets a new record!
Amy, Glen, Rod and Paula are signed up to work the early shift (4-5:30 p.m.) and
set up the booth. The late shift (5:30- 7:00 p.m.) and take down will be covered
by Jack, Tom and Susan. Department staff will provide the materials and supplies
for the booth. Commissioners will set up and operate the booth. Thanks for
volunteering to work the Business Fair booth. We look forward to seeing you on
the 3rd of July!
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CITYOF
CHAN SEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Administration
Phone: 952.227.1100
Fax: 952.227.1110
Building Inspections
Phone: 952.227.1180
Fax: 952.227.1190
Engineering
Phone: 952.227.1160
Fax: 952.227.1170
Finance
Phone: 952.227.1140
Fax: 952.227.1110
Park & Recreation
Phone: 952.227.1120
Fax: 952.227.1110
Recreation Center
23t0 Coulter Boulevard
Phone: 952.227.1400
Fax: 952.227.1404
Planning &
Natural Resources
Phone: 952.227.1130
Fax: 952.227.1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone: 952.227.1300
Fax: 952.227.1310
Senior Center
Phone: 952.227.1125
Fax: 952.227.1110
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TO:
FROM:
DATE:
SUB J:
Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation Superintendent
Corey Hoen, Recreation Supervisor ~ ~k
June 11, 2003 0~y
2003 4th of July Celebration
The 2003 Chanhassen 4th of July Celebration will be held on Thursday, July 3,
and Friday, July 4. All activities will take place at City Center Park on July 3, and
at City Center Park and Lake Ann Park on July 4.
There will be a total of eleven food and beverage vendors at this year's event. It
is my hope that the variety of food and beverage choices will be well received by
all celebration attendees.
This year's community parade will be held on Friday, July 4 beginning at 2:30
p.m. The parade route will be identical to last year. The parade will start at
Chapel Hill and travel north on Kerber Blvd. and then circle back to Chan View.
Promotional material for the event includes the following: Schedule of Events
insert in the Chanhassen Villager and the Chaska Herald; Ads in the Chanhassen
Villager and the Chaska Herald; 4th of July signs placed in various locations in the
City and additional brochures distributed to businesses around the City.
4th of July T-Shirts will be sold at City Hall. The cost of the shirts is $8.00 for
adult sizes S-XXL.
As the event draws closer, I will be finalizing details and working closely with
other department staff to ensure that I am handling all event logistics and work
items in a timely and appropriate manner.
The Cil¥ of Chanhassen · A growing community with clean lakes, quality schools, a charming downtown, thriving businesses, winding trails, and beautiful parks. A great place to live, work, and play.
CITYOF
CHAN SEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Adminislration
Phone: 952.227.1100
Fax: 952.227.1110
Building Inspections
Phone: 952.227.1180
Fax: 952.227.1190
Engineering
Phone: 952,227.1160
Fax: 952,227.1170
Finance
Phone: 952.227.1140
Fax: 952.227.1110
Park & Recreation
Phone: 952,227.1120
Fax: 952.227.1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone: 952.227.1400
Fax: 952.227.1404
Planning &
Natural Resources
Phone: 952,227.1130
Fax: 952.227.1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone: 952.227.1300
Fax: 952,227,1310
Senior Center
Phone: 952.227.1125
Fax: 952.227.1110
Web Site
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MEMORANDUM
TO:
Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director
FROM:
Susan Marek, Recreation Center Manager
DATE: June 17, 2003
SUB J:
Park Commission Report June 2003
Recreation Center User Fees and Room Rental Fees
Punch card fees and room rental fees increased on April 1, 2003. It is difficult to
gauge the fee increase impact as Rec Center business slows significantly in the
spring and summer.
Dance
The Dance for Fun recital was held at Eden Prairie High School on May 3. Both
recital performances ran smoothly with about 1000 tickets sold, generating
revenue of $7000!! A financial balance sheet for the dance program is being
prepared. This is our first year offering summer dance camps!
Staffin~
Kim Conradi has become a Facility Supervisor and will continue as a Dance
Instructor at the Rec Center. This delays the need to hire new staff. Fall staffing
schedules are being drafted.
Susan Marek will be working reduced hours beginning in July.
Abundant Beauty
The perennial garden at the entrance to the Rec Center has matured nicely since
its installation one year ago. The small garden and the lush potted shrubs nearby
garner many compliments! Also commanding attention is the annual art exhibit
by Kay Faust. Kay's exhibit will be followed by large acrylic paintings by
Shannon Wing. Artists are scheduled through October 2004.
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CHANHASSEN
7700 Ivlarket Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Administration
Phone: 952.227.1100
Fax: 952.227.1110
Building Inspections
Phone: 952.227.1180
Fax: 952.227.1190
Engineering
Phone: 952.227.1160
Fax: 952.227.1170
Finance
Phone: 952.227.1140
Fax: 952.227.1110
Park & Recreation
Phone: 952.227.1 I20
Fax: 952.227.1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone: 952.227.1400
Fax: 952.227.1404
Planning &
Natural Resources
Phone: 952.227.1130
Fax: 952.227.1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone: 952.227.1300
Fax: 952.227.1310
Senior Center
Phone: 952.227.1125
Fax: 952.227.1110
Web Site
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MEMORANDUM
TO:
Todd Hoffman, Parks and Recreation Director
FROM:
Kara Wickenhauser, Senior Center Coordinator
DATE: June 18, 2003
SUB J:
Senior Center Activities Update
Currently, I am preparing for my maternity leave that will begin on Monday, June 23rd
and will run through mid to late September. I am in the process of f'mishing fall
programming for the months of September, October and November. One-day programs
are still being programmed in coordination with the Chaska Parks & Recreation
Department, the Victoria Parks & Recreation Department, and the Eden Prairie Senior
Center.
The Senior Center just finished celebrating their 3ra Annual "Senior Awareness Month"
in May. Special activities for the month included card tournaments (Bridge, 500 and
Hand & Foot), golf tournament, fishing contest, a CHAN-o-laires concert at Centennial
Hills, breakfast with the Mayor, a picnic at Lake Ann, and a Bake Sale. Each activity
was well attended and enjoyed by all.
Listed below are the averages for each daily activity for the months of April and May
and the monthly attendance numbers for January 2003 - June 2003.
Regular Monthl.v Activities
Bridge 44 people Men's Club 7 men
Stamping Club 7 people CHAN-o-laires 24people
Instrumental Group 6 people Bowling 8 people
Women's Club 18 women Men's Club 8 men
Bingo 15 people Woodcarving 18 people
Free Movie Day 16 people Card Club 34 people
Golfing Club 20 people Foot Care Clinic
(Discontinued)
Health Insurance Asst. 6 people
Recorded Number of Visitors at the Center
January 645 people
February 635 people
March 485 people
April 760 people
May 755 people
June 475 people (As of 6/18/03)
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Mr. Todd Hoffman
June 18, 2003
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Trips - Upcoming trips include; Exploring the Arts Tour, Courage Center Tour &
Lunch, and "Sound of Music" at the Chanhassen Dinner Theatre.
Extended Trills - Cape Cod Tour in September and Italy in November.
New Programs - The Senior Center is offering monthly Health Insurance Assistance
every 2nd Tuesday of the month from 9:00 a.m. -11:00 a.m. This program is sponsored
by MAAA (Minnesota Area Agency on Aging). Seniors are able to make a FREE
appointment with a State Health Insurance Counselor to answer questions regarding;
Medicare, Prescription Drug Programs, Long Term Care Insurance, Supplemental
Insurance/HMO, Medicare Savings Plans, and Medicare Fraud and Abuse.
The Senior Center will also be offering a Watercolor Painting class this fall from
September 9th - October 14th. The instructor will be Kay Faust.
Sl~ecial Programs - On September 19, the Senior Center will be hosting its 2na Annual
Senior Safety Seminar at the Recreation Center. This program is coordinated by the
City of Chanhassen/Carver County Law Enforcement Department, Chanhassen Senior
Center and Victoria Senior Center. This year's topics will include, Road Rage/Traffic
Safety, Identity Theft Prevention, and Medication Safety. Our goal is to have an
enrollment of 75 seniors. The Chanhassen Lions Club has donated $400.00 towards
this event and the Victoria Lions Club has donated $100.00. This year's registration fee
is $7.00 a person and includes coffee/donuts in the morning, lunch, 4 speaker sessions,
and a safety gift.
The Senior Center continues to work with the Americlnn of Chanhassen to provide
Open Swim opportunities for area seniors. This program has been very successful! We
have sold 32 tickets with 8 tickets being shared by two people. Each punch card has 12
sessions and the cost is $24.00 a card.
Miscellaneous - The Senior Center carpeting, upholstery on the chairs, the blinds and
the linoleum floors have been cleaned. The Woodcarving Club is on schedule to
complete their wooden quilt project for the Library Grand Opening. The Senior Center
is looking for a wheelchair to have on hand at the Senior Center.
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CITYOF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Administration
Phone: 952.227.1100
Fax: 952.227.1110
Building Inspections
Phone: 952.227.1180
Fax: 952.227.1190
Engineering
Phone: 952.227.1160
Fax: 952.227.1170
Finance
Phone: 952.227.1140
Fax: 952.227.1110
Park & Recreation
Phone: 952.227.1120
Fax: 952.227.1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone: 952.227.1400
Fax: 952.227.1404
Planning &
Natural Resources
Phone: 952.227.1130
Fax: 952.227.1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone: 952.227.1300
Fax: 952.227.1310
Senior Center
Phone: 952.227.1125
Fax: 952.227.1110
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MEMORANDUM
TO:
Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director
FROM:
Dale Gregory, Park Superintendent
DATE: June 12, 2003
SUBJECT: Park and Trail Maintenance Report
Summer is in full swing with lawn mowing, softball and soccer field maintenance
and the opening of the swimming beach all happening at the same time. The park
maintenance crew has been concentrating mostly on general park duties such as
fertilizing, weed spraying and maintenance of the soccer and ball fields. Our first
application of fertilizer was completed at the end of May.
Currently we are spraying broadleaf weeds in the parks. Both elementary schools,
Lake Ann, Lake Susan, Bandimere, North Lotus, Roundhouse and Sugar Bush
Parks have been sprayed. We have also completed our first round of mowing all
the trails.
The swimming beach at Lake Susan was enlarged this spring. Sand from the
volley ball court, which was being removed, was moved to the new beach area.
This enabled us to complete this job at a minimal cost.
All seasonal staff are at work doing the day to day maintenance work in the parks
and ball fields.
The City of Chanhassen, A growing community with clean lakes, quality schools, a charming downtown, thriving businesses, winding trails, and beautiful parks. A great place to live, work, and play.
Correspondence Section
Park and Recreation
CITYOF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
cnanhassen, MN 55317
Administration
Phone: 952.227.1100
Fax: 952.227.1110
Building Inspections
Phone: 952.227.1180
Fax: 952.227.1190
Engineering
Phone: 952.227.1160
Fax: 952.227.1170
Finance
?h,,:ne: 952.227.1140
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952.227.1404
Planning &
Natural Resources
?hcne: 952.227.1130
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!591 Park Road
Phone: 952.227.1300
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May 27, 2003
Ms. Susan Marek
315 McKnight Circle
Chaska, MN 55318
Dear Susan:
Please accept this letter of commendation in recognition of your hard work on
the Dance for Fun Program. As you know, I enjoyed the spring dance concert
and was thoroughly impressed with the magnitude of this production. This
program has truly prospered over the years, with your coaching and guidance.
I want to especially recog-nize your efforts in assisting Nicole Sorenson as she
assumed the role as program director. I know this has created additional work
and "stress" for you.
Susan, thanks again for working so hard to make the Dance for Fun Program
such a success! I am looking forward to next spring's concert.
Sincerely,
Todd Hoffman
Park and Recreation Director
TH:ns
C°
Todd Gerhardt, City Manager
Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation Superintendent
Park and Recreation Commission
Personnel File
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7700 Market Boulevard
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May 27, 2003
Ms. Nicole Sorensen
8967 Partridge Road
St. Bonifacius, MN 55375
Dear Nicole:
Please accept this letter of commendation for the wonderful job you did on the
spring dance concert. I enjoyed the entire production and hate to admit that
this was the first year-end show that I have attended. The auditorium was
packed and the crowd was pleasantly entertained thanks to your wonderful
choreography, instruction, and coaching abilities. You make Chanhassen Park
and Recreation and the Dance for Fun program look good through your hard
work! As I left the show that evening, I was honored to be associated with
such dedicated and hard working dance instructors.
Good luck with your Dance for Fun camps this summer. It is great that you
are able to continue your program into the summer in anticipation of a new
season in the fall.
Thanks again for your dedication to the Dance for Fun program!
Sincerely,
Todd Hoffman
Park and Recreation Director
TH:ns
C:
Susan Marek, Recreation Center Supervisor
Todd Gerhardt, City Manager
Park and Recreation Commission
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7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
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Administration
Phone: 952.227.1100
Fax: 952.227.1110
Building Inspections
Phone: 952.227.1180
Fax: 952.227.1190
Engineering
Phone: 952.227.1160
Fax: 952.227.1170
Finance
~'?e 9E2.227.1140
}52.227.1110
Park & Recreation
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23~C Cz:..',ter Bou!evard
Pr, cne: 952.227.1400
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Planning &
Natural Resources
?%::,e: 952.227.1 t30
Fax: 952227.! I10
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phon~: 952.227.1300
Fax: 952.227.1310
Senior Center
Phone: 952.227.1125
Fax: 952.227.1110
Web Site
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May 27, 2003
Ms. Kim Conradi
4046 Wildwood Drive
Ham Lake, MN 55304
Dear Kim:
Please accept this letter of commendation for the wonderful job you did on the
spring dance concert. I enjoyed the entire production and hate to admit that
this was the first year-end show that I have attended. The auditorium was
packed and the crowd was pleasantly entertained thanks to your wonderful
choreography, instruction, and coaching abilities. You make Chanhassen Park
and Recreation and the Dance for Fun program look good through your hard
work! As I left the show that evening, I was honored to be associated with
such dedicated and hard working dance instructors.
Good luck with your Dance for Fun camps this summer. It is great that you
are able to continue your program into the summer in anticipation of a new
season in the fall.
Thanks again for your dedication to the Dance for Fun program!
Sincerely,
Todd Hoffman
Park and Recreation Director
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Susan Marek, Recreation Center Supervisor
Todd Gerhardt, City Manager
Park and Recreation Commission
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CITYOF
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7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Channassen. MN 55317
Administration
Phone: 952.227.1100
Fax: 952.227.1110
Building Inspections
Phone: 952.227.1180
Fax: 952.227.1190
Engineering
Phone: 952.227.1160
Fax: o'~ '-'
~;,~.,,27.1170
Finance
Phone: 9~.2.227.1140
Fax: 952227.1110
Park & Recreation
P.c. one: 95,2.227.1120
Fax: 952.227.1110
Rec~ea:'sn Cen[er
_ ,..,~:.,.::, Boeevard
Phone: 952.227.1400
Fax: 952.227.1404
Planning &
Natural Resources
Pi;or:e: ~.5£.227.1130
Fax: 95£.227.1110
Public Works
i59! Park Road
Phone: 952.227.1300
Fax: 952.227.i310
Senior Center
Phone: 952.227.1125
Fax: 952.227.1110
Web Site
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May 27, 2003
Ms. Laura Dvorak
235 8th Avenue South
St. Cloud, MN 56301
Dear Laura:
Please accept this letter of commendation for the wonderful job you did on the
spring dance concert. I enjoyed the entire production and hate to admit that
this was the first year-end show that I have attended. The auditorium was
packed and the crowd was pleasantly entertained thanks to your wonderful
choreography, instruction, and coaching abilities. You make Chanhassen Park
and Recreation and the Dance for Fun program look good through your hard
work! As I left the show that evening, I was honored to be associated with
such dedicated and hard working dance instructors.
Good luck with your Dance for Fun camps this summer. It is great that you
are able to continue your program into the summer in anticipation of a new
season in the fall.
Thanks again for your dedication to the Dance for Fun program!
Sincerely,
Todd Hoffman
Park and Recreation Director
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Susan Marek, Recreation Center Supervisor
Todd Gerhardt, City Manager
Park and Recreation Commission
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Minnesota Department of Natural Resources
Exotic Species Watercraft Inspection Program, Division of Ecological Services
500 Lafayette Road
St. Paul. Minnesota 55155-40
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May 27,2003
Dear Public Water Access Administrators,
The Minnesota boating season has f'mally arrived and along with it comes the risk of spreading harmful aquatic
exotic species to waters across Minnesota. I am writing this letter to inform you that the DNR is starting
watercraft inspections for the 2003 open water season at public water accesses.
This activity is mandated by state law. Minnesota Statute 84D.02, Subdivision 4 states, The commissioner shall
authorize personnel to inspect, for a minimum of 20, 000 hours durin_g open water season, watercraft and
associated equipment, including weed harvesters, that leave or are removed from waters of the state.
To fulfill the legislative mandate, a Watercraft Inspection effort was established through the Department of
Natural Resources Exotic Species Program. The inspectors are stationed at accesses for both uninfested and
infested waters and will be talking to the boaters about inspecting their watercraft for any plant or animal species
and removing them before leaving the access.
Your agency is the managing authority of a public water access at which some watercraft inspections will be
conducted. Enclosed, you will find a Right of Entry Authorization for Watercraft Inspections. Please have the
proper authority sign the form and return it to my attention in the self-addressed stamped envelope.
Along with the Right of Entry you will find a copy of the following informational material:
v/ 2003 Minnesota DNR Watercraft Inspection Overview
,/ On The Waterfront which includes a summary of exotic species laws and a list of all infested waters in
Minnesota
,/ A FieM Guide to Aquatic Exotic Plants and Animals
,/' A orange Exotics Alert tag and
,/' 2002 Exotic Species Program Annual Report Summary
If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at any time.
We greatly appreciate your assistance in helping to preserve and enhance one of Minnesota's greatest natural
resources - it's waters.
Sincerely,
Sarah Sillers
Watercraft Inspection Assistant
P: (651) 284-3586
F: (651) 296-1811
sarah, si llers~dnr, state .mn.us
DNR Information: 651-296-6157
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Who Values Diversity
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TrY: 651-296-5484 ° 1-800-657-3929
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2003 Watercraft Inspection Overview
The potential for boaters to accidentally move aquatic exotic species from one lake to another has long been recognized as
a serious threat to Minnesota's aquatic resources and their use. Since 1992, an important component of the DNR's Exotic
Species Program has been inspections of watercraft leaving "infested" water bodies containing harmful aquatic exotic
species such as Eurasian Watermilfoil, Spiny Waterflea, and Zebra Mussels. In 1999 the program also began inspecting
boats leaving high-use "uninfested" water bodies.
Inspections are done during the open water season from May through October.
Goals:
One of the Program's goals is to prevent the spread of harmful exotics within Minnesota. The primary objectives of the
watercraft inspections are:
1. To increase public awareness about the threats of exotic species to Minnesota's waters,
2. To demonstrate what individuals can do to prevent the spread of harmful exotic species.
The inspection process involves: ,/ Inspection of watercraft for harmful exotic species leaving and entering water bodies.
,/ Communication of the laws and issues surrounding the existence, spread and effects of exotic species to
Minnesota's waters.
,/ Distribution of written educational materials on exotic species.
,/ Recording data necessary for program research.
,/ Forwarding boater's technical inquiries to DNR specialist.
,/ Ensuring that Public Water Accesses are free of exotic plants and debris.
Structure and Organization: .:
The watercraft inspections are conducted by interns located in the following areas: '.~
Duluth- 3 St. Cloud/Wilmar/Spicer- 5
Brainerd - 5 Twin Cities and Surrounding Suburbs - 20
Alexandria - 1 Mississippi River - 4
This distribution of inspection staff is based on number of public water accesses'on infested waters, potential boater
activity, and severity of exotics infestations. Inspections will be conducted at DNR and DOT public water accesses and
public water accesses where federal, county, and local authorities have signed a Right of Entry Agreement.
Inspector Identification
Identification of the watercraft inspection team:
· Portable 18" X 24"'yellow & black sign, which reads "Watercraft Inspections"is placed near the access while
inspectors are present.
The inspectors will wear a uniform consisting of: · Tan DNR issued shirt with DNR patch on sleeve.
· DNR cap.
· DNR employee ID on shirt pocket.
Enforcement Authority:
Watercraft Inspectors have no enforcement authority and will not board or enter a watercraft. Inspectors work closely
with the DNR Division of Enforcement when enforcement action is needed.
Questions:
If you have any questions concerning Watercraft Inspections, please contact:
Heidi Wolf Sarah Sillers
Watercraft Inspection Coordinator or Watercraft Inspection Assistant
651-297-4891 651-284-3586
heidi.wolf~dnr.state.mn.us sarah.sillers~dnr, state.mn.us
'*ON THE WATER FRO :
The Exotic Species Update ~2--~.
Minnesota Department of Natural Resources May 1, 2003
MINNESOTA'S INFESTED WATERS
· Waters with Eurasian watermil-
The following 141 waterbodies are infested with
Eurasian watermilfoil (Myriophyllum spicatum):
County Waterbody
Anoka Cenaiko, Centerville, Crooked, George, Otter,
Peltier, Springbrook,
Carver Ann, Auburn, Bavaria, Eagle, Firemen's Lake, Lotus
(in Chaska), Minnewashta, Parley, Pierson, Riley,
Schutz, Stieger, Stone, Virg/nia, Waconia,
Wasserman, Zumbra
Chisago Ellen, Green, Rush
Crow Wing Bay, Ossawinnamakee, Ripple River (Between
Bay and Tame Fish), Ruth,
Dakota Crystal, Lac Lavon, Marion, Schultz, Sunset,
Twin Lakes
Douglas Oscar
Hennepin Arrowhead, Bass, Brownie, Bryant, Bush,
Calhoun, Cedar, Christmas, Dutch, Eagle, Fish,
Forest, Galpin, Gleason, Harriet, Hiawatha,
Independence, Lake of the Isles, Libbs, Little
Long, Long, Medicine, Mirmehaha Creek, Min-
netonka, Mitchell, Niccum's Pond, Nokomis,
Parker's, Peavy, Rebecca, Rice, Round, Sarah,
Schmidt, Swan, Tanager, Whaletail, Wirth,
Isanti Green
Itasca Ice, McKinney, North Twin
Kanabec Knife
Kandiyohi Green, Norway
Le Seur East Jefferson, German
Meeker Ripley, Stella, Washington,
Mille Lacs Mille Lacs from the mouths of each tributary
upstream to the first public road
Olmsted George
Pope Gilchrist, Minnewaska
Ramsey Bald Eagle, Gervais, Island, Keller, Kohlmans,
McCarron, Owasso, Phalen, Round, Silver, Snail,
Spoon Creek, Sucker, Turtle, Vadnais, Wabasso,
White Bear
Rice Cedar
St. Louis Gilbert-Pit, Horseshoe
Scott O'Dowd, Lower and Upper Prior, Thole
Sherbume Little Elk
Steams Sauk, Clearwater R. downstream of Clearwater
Lake to Weigand Lake (including an unnamed
wetland)
Todd Sauk
Washington Powers, St. Croix R_, Sunset
Wright Augusta, Beebe, Buffalo, Clearwater, Clearwater,
R., Deer, Fish, French, Goose, Little Waverly,
Mary, Pulaski, Rock, Sugar, Waverly, Weigand
· Waters with round goby ~
The following waterbodies are designated as infested
with round goby (Neogobius melanostromus): Lake Superior
St. Louis River (downstream of the Fond du Lac dam)
· Waters with ruffe ~
The following waterbodies are designated
as infested with ruffe (Gymnocephalus cernuus): Lake Superior
St. Louis River (downstream of the Fond du Lac dam)
· Waters with spiny water ~
The following waterbodies are designated as infested
with spiny water flea (Bythotrephes cederstroemO:.
Fish Lake, Island Lake (St. Louis County)
Lake Superior
Cloquet River (from Island Lake to St. Louis River)
St. Louis River (downstream of the Cloquet River)
· Waters with white perch . ~
The following waterbodies are designated as infested
with white perch (Morone americana): Lake Superior
St. Louis River (downstream of the Fond du Lac dam)
· Waters with zebra mussels t~
The following waters are designated as infested with
zebra mussel (Dreissena sp.) : Lake Superior
Mississippi River (downstream of St. Anthony Falls)
St. Louis River (downstream of the Fond du Lac dam)
St. Croix (downstream of river mile 25.4)
Lake Zumbro
Zumbro River (downstream of Lake Zumbo)
Ail underlined waters were identified as infested in 2002.
FOR MORE INFO~TION
Call the DNR Exotic Species Program at (651)
296~2835 or visit our web site at www.dnr.state.
mn .us/ecological_services/exotics/.
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June 9, 2003
Thomas Joyce
2043 Brinker Street
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Dear Thomas:
Thank you for your letter expressing your desire to complete an Eagle Scout
project in the City of Chanhassen. The City has been the benefactor of many
good quality Eagle Scout projects over the years. I do not maintain a list of
potential projects, but I do work with individual Scouts to identify an activity
that will meet the requirements of the Boy Scouts. Please contact me at 952
227-1129 to establish a time when we can meet to discuss some ideas.
Again, thank you for your letter and congratulations on setting the goal of
obtaining the rank of Eagle Scout.
Sincerely,
Todd Hoffman
Park and Recreation Director
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BowI-A-Thon Pledges and Donations
Exceed Expectations in 2003
On Saturday, March 15, 2003, Reach For Resources
held its I I th Annual BowI-A-Thon. The grand
fundraising total was over $10,000! This was
accomplished through new sponsorship dollars and
hard working participants who collected over half
of the dollar amount.
Our highest pledge earner this year was Joe Parker.
Joe amazed us all by collecting $86'0. So many people
at the BowI-A-Thon were impressed with Joe's effort
:_ Sheri :Peterseni MA:
~-. -- .' · -'-'::' ' :: :' that Reach decided to ask him some questions about
his involvement. When we asked how long he has
been bowling, Joe replied, "Since i was a little kid,
I love it!"
Bowling is a
popular activity
for so many of our
participants that it
adds to the
success of this
fundraiser. Many
of these people
are already parti-
cipating in bowling
leagues that meet
at least once per
week, so we asked
Joe why he likes
participating in the
BowI-A-Thon. Joe
said, "It's very fun
and you get to
meet new people;
it's not a compe-
tition and they
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:Stacey:Dinner'Levin "2003 Highest
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have great prizes:' And finally, the question so many
of us are wondering, how did Joe raise so much
money? Joe told us, 'Well, I had a late start but
my family really helped me out. The people at work
also helped me out and somehow it only took me
two weeks to raise all the money!" We think Joe
received extra motivation from his housemate, David
Plocek, who received the highest pledge amount last
year and finished a close second this year by
collecting $636.
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Foreground (I-r): Mark ~hitmore, Cory
Peterson and Renae Lutner
Others who were in the top tiers include: Jessica
Carveli $633, Mark Whitmore $555, and Bet~ Baer
with $439.
Thank you all!
Please take the time to read over the list of Bowl-
A-Thon sponsors and contributors. It is always nice
to show your appreciation of thanks by doing business
with these companies.
COUNSELING & EDUCATION
COUNSELING
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Reach for Resources ~pecialize~ in working
wi~ people with developmental disabilitie~
such as mental retardation, down sTndrome,
autism, and moderate to borderline
cognitive difficulties, and their ~milies. Rmch
for Resources believes in a. friendl7,
~uppo~ve, per,on-centered approach, and
in se~ing per~onalixed goals for each clien[
To discuss available counseling options
or to schedule an intake interview,
contact:
Lisa Rivers, MA, LP
at (952) 988-4177
WOMEN'S
GROUP
YOUNGWOMEN
IN TRANSITION
An opportunity for women
(ages 18 to 30) with mild
DD to talk with other
women about their
concerns and experiences
regarding topics such as
relationships, sexuality, grief and loss, or
other topics that are of interest.
If you would like to be a part of this 8
week therapy group, an intake is required.
For more information on this group,
to schedule an intake, or to find out
when it will be offered, call:
Lisa Rivers at (952) 988-4177
EMPOWERMENT
Reach for ResourCes offers a Personal
Empowerment Group for adults with mild
developmental disabilities who wish to
address their feelings and concerns and
promote self-esteem. This is a group for
people who have felt lonely and scared
or who have felt they are not good enough
because they learn slowly or don't
understand things the way others do.
Participants will learn how to take care of
themselves by making appropriate choices
and will become empowered to gain more
independence in living their lives.
WHEN: Tuesday Nights in Hopkins and
Thursday Nights in Robbinsdale
FEE SLIDESTO: $10.00 per quarter
Participants must arrange their own
transportation and be able to wait
independently for their ride.
Call Sheri at (952) 988-4177 for more
information or to schedule an intake
interview.
ANNUAL SELF-ADVOCACY
BANQUET
Celebrate a~other successful year at Reach!
Everyone Is I~vited!
WHEN: May 15, 2003
TIME: 6:00 - 8:00 p.m.
WHERE: Eisenhower Community Center
COST: $10.00 per person
Certificates of participation will be given to those who were involved in the Empowerment Classes.
To register call Sheri at (952) 988-4177
Reach for Resources receives funding through a purchase of services contract with Hennepin County Adult Services.
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YOUTH PROGRAMS
AGES 5-12
August Action
This is a day camp designed especially for
you. Explore the Twin Cities in this safe,
supervised and sensational program.
WHERE: Eisenhower Community
Center
WHEN: Monday - Thursday
August 18 - 2 I
TIME: I:00 - 4:00 p.m.
FEE $30.00 Resident
SLIDESTO: $35.00 Non-resident
Plus additional cost depending on activity
Program Minimum - 5, Maximum - 12
RAINBOW KIDS
Now offered at two different locations!
Each location will have special themes and
focus on fun games, activities and crafts.
WHERE: 9391 Fernbrook Lane
Maple Grove
WHEN: Tuesdays & Thursdays
July 22 - August 14
TIME: 10:00 a.m.- 12:30 p.m.
ages I I - 15 yrs,
TIME: I:00 - 3:30 p.m.
ages 6 - 10 yrs.
FEE $40.00/Resident
SLIDES TO: $45.00/Non-resident
WHERE: Chanhassen
Recreation Center
WHEN: Tuesdays & Thursdays
July 22 -August 7
TIME: 10:00 a.m.- 12:30 p.m.
ages 5 - 12 yrs.
FEE $35.00 Resident
SLIDESTO: $40.00 Non-resident
Plus additional cost depending on activity
Program Minimum - 5, Maximum - I 0
SPORTS SAMPLER
Have fun and explore a variety of fun sports
each week.
WHERE: Chanhassen Recreation
Center
WHEN: Tuesdays
June 24 - July 29
TIME: 6:00 - 7:00 p.m.
COST: $30.00 Resident
$35.00 Non-Resident
Program Minimum 5, Maximum 12
YOUTH BOWLING
Offered at Park Tavern and Doyle's: Please
see details listed under teen programs.
NEW!
DATE NIGHT
Respite care for kids with disabilities and
their siblings. Mom and Dad, enjoy a night
out. Kids can come and hang out at the
Recreation Center in Brooklyn
Park. There will be some planned
activities as well as open time with the
big screen TV, game tables, gym, crafts,
and snacks.
WHEN: Fridays
June 13
July II
August 8
TIME: 6:30 - I 0:00 p.m.
FEE $15/chiid
SLIDES TO: $30/family Resident
$25/child
$40/family
Non-resident
Program Minimum 5, Maximum 15
Sponsored by Brooklyn Park Recreation
Department. To register contact:
Jen (763) 315-5459
YOUTH SOFTBALL
WHERE: Twin Lakes Park in
St. Louis Park
WHEN: Mondays
June 23 -August II
6:30 - 8:00 p.m.
$32.00 Resident
$37.00 Non-resident
Program Minimum I 0, Maximum 22
TIME:
FEE
SLIDESTO:
If there is difficulty paying program fees,
there are scholarships provided based
on participant's needs.
Call Renae at 9S2/988-4178
TEEN PROGRAMS
AGES 13-2 I
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TEEN BOWLING
- NORTHWEST
WHERE: Doyle's
5000 VV. Broadway
Crystal
WHEN: Tuesdays
June 17 - August 12
TIME: 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
FEE $30.00 Resident
SLIDES TO: $35.00 Non-Resident
COST CHANGE: Plus $3.00 per Tuesday
Program Minimum - 3, Maximum - 10
WEST
WHERE:
Park Tavern
3401 Louisiana Ave. S.
St. Louis Park
WHEN: Mondays
June 16 - August I I
TIME: 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
FEE $30.00 Resident
SLIDES TO: $35.00 Non Resident
Plus $3.00 per Monday
Program Minimum - 3, Maximum - I 0
TEEN SOFTBALL
WHERE: Zanewood Recreation Ctr.
7000 Zane Ave. North
Brooklyn Park
Field #3
WHEN: Tuesdays
TIME: 6:30 - 8:00 p.m.
FEE $32.00 Resident
SLIDESTO: $37.00 Non-resident
Program Minimum - ! 0, Maximum - 22
TEEN PROGRAMS
TEEN EXPLORERS
NORTH
WHERE: Various NW locations
WHEN: Thursdays
June 19 - August 14
TIME: 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
FEE $35.00 Resident
SLIDES TO: $40.00 Non-Resident
Plus additional cost depending on activity
Program Minimum - 5, Maximum - 20
WEST
WHERE: Various locations in
the Western suburbs
WHEN: Thursdays
June 19 - August 14
TIME: 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
FEE $35.00 Resident
SLIDES TO: $40.00 Non-Resident
Plus additional cost depending on activity
Program Minimum - 5, Maximum - 20
CHASKA TEENS
Do you want to be a part of a fun, weekly
teen social group that will meet in various
locations in your area? Please call Tara
at (952) 988-4176 to sign up. Dates
and times to be announced.
"TAKE FIVE" RESPITE
Recipient of MRPA Award of
Excellence for outstanding achieve-
ments in the parks, recreation and
leisure services field.
Do you need something to do during your
summer break? Come join our respite to
meet new friends, experience recreation
activities and get out of the house!
Transportation will be provided within a
specific geographic location.
WHEN: Monday- Fridays
July 28 - August 15
TIME: 9:00 a.m.- 3:30 p.m.
Call Renae for more information at
(952) 988-4178
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ADULT SOCIAL PROGRAMS
ON THE TOWN &
GOLDEN YEARS CLUB
PARTICIPANT GUIDELINES
On The Town and Golden Years Club is
a social group for adults who can access
community venues independently with
minimal supervision. We require parti-
cipants to have the ability to manage and
modify their own behavior, start and
continue conversations with other group
members, and be able to wait independently
for transportation to and from On The
Town and Golden Years Club activities.
*Please Note: If you are a new
participant in On The Town or
Golden Years Club, call Renae at
(952) 988-4178 for information
and to schedule an intake interview.
X ~ :~.'//ON THE TOWN I
A social group for young adults, ages 18- 25,
who are independent and would like to
explore their community.
WHERE:
Various locations in the
Northwest and West
Suburbs
WHEN: Every other Friday
Begins June 27
TIME: Varies with activity
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FEE $15.00 Reside/~t
SLIDESTO: $20.00 Non-Resident
Plus additional cost depending on activity
Program Minimum -5, Maximum - 20
~ ON THE TOWN II
SENIOR PROGRAMS
AGES 50 PLUS
GOLDEN YEARS CLUB
This adult social group is designed for those
over 50. We will meet to have dinner and
enjoy entertainment.
WHERE: Brookview Community
Center
200 Brookview Pkwy.
Golden Valley
WHEN: Monday, June 23
Monday, August 25
TIME: 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
FEE $20.00 Resident
SLIDES TO: $25.00 Non-Resident
For more information or to schedule
an intake interview contact~.
Renae (952) 988-4178
Program Minimum - 3, Maximum - 10
A social group for adults, ages 26-50, who
can access the community independently
with minimal supervision. Saturday evenings,
two per month.
WHERE: Various locations in the
Northwest and
West suburbs
WHEN: Every other Saturday
TIME: Varies with activity
FEE $15.00 Resident
SLIDES TO: $20.00 Non-Resident
Plus additional cost depending on activity
Program Minimum I 5, Maximum - 20
PLEASE NOTE
Participants may only register
for one social program per
quarter.
ADULT SOCIAL PROGRAMS
CLUB WEST
WHERE: Various locations in
Hopkins, Minnetonka,
St. Louis Park,
Chanhassen & Chaska
WHEN: Wednesdays
June 18 - August 13
TIME: 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
FEE $30.00 Resident
SLIDESTO: :$35.00 Non-Resident
Program Minimum - 5, Maximum - 30
WED. NIGHT SOCIAL
WHERE: Crystal Community Ctr.
4800 Douglas Drive
Crystal
WHEN: Wednesdays
June 18 - August 13
TIME: 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
FEE $30.00 Resident
slides to: $35.00 Non-Resident
Program Maximum -35
NEW! COOKING AROUND THE
WORLD & CONCERTS INTHE PARK
Join us Thursday evenings and we will make
and eat dinner together. When dinner is over,
you are welcome to enjoy the free concert
outside at the Gazebo. Each meal will match
the theme for the concert.
WHERE: Brooklyn Park
Community Activity Ctr.
WHEN: Thursdays
June 26 -August 7
No concert July 3
TIME: 6:00 - 8:00 p.m.
FEE $30.00 Resident
SLIDESTO: $40.00 Non-resident
Program Minimum - 5, Maximum - 20
Club West, Wednesday Night Social, and
Friendship Connection are social
programs for adults age 18 and older. Staff'
to participant ratio is I:10. There may be
an additional cost depending on activity.
DANCES
NORTHWEST
"BeatThe Heat Dance"
WHERE:
WHEN:
TIME:
COST:
Crystal Community Ctr.
4800 Douglas Drive
Crystal
Wednesday
August 13
6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
Free to social group
participants and $3.00
for guests
WHERE: Plymouth creek Ctr.
14800 34th Ave. North
WHEN: Friday
June 27
TIME: 7:00 - 9:00 p.m.
COST: $3.00 at the door
WEST
Join REACH and Project SOAR for our
Friday night dances.
WHERE: Minnetonka East
Middle School
17000 Lake St. Extension
WHEN: Friday
May 9
June 13
July 18
TIME: 7:00 - 9:00 p.m.
COST: $3.00 AtThe Door
WHERE: Chaska Community Ctn
1661 Park Ridge Drive
WHEN: Friday
August 8
TIME: 7:00 - 9:00 p.m.
COST: $3.00 at the door
Co-sponsored by Magnifying Abilities
ADULT BOWLING
_ NORTHWEST '~'
WHERE: Doyle's Lanes
5000 W. Broadway
Crystal
WHEN: Tuesdays
June 17 - August 12
TIME: 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
FEE
SLIDESTO:
$30.00 Resident
$35.00 Non-Resident
COST CHANGE: Plus $3.00 PerTuesday
Program Minimum - 3, Maximum -30
WHERE:
Village North
7500 Zane Ave. No.
Brooklyn Park
WHEN: Mondays
June 16 - August I !
TIME: 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
FEE $30.00 Resident
SLIDESTO: $35.00 Non-Resident
Plus $4.00 Per Monday
Program Minimum - 5, Maximum - 20
WEST
WHERE:
Park Tavern
3401 Louisiana Ave. S.
St_ Louis Park
WHEN: Mondays
June 16 - August I I
TIME: 6:30 - 8:30 a.m.
FEE $30.00 Resident
SLIDESTO: $35.00 Non-Resident
Plus $3.00 Per Saturday
Program Minimum - 5, Maximum - 25
Recreation programs co-sponsored by Reach for Resources and a consortium of the northwestern park and recreation departments of Brooklyn
Center, Brooklyn Park, Crystal, Golden Valley, Maple Grove, New Hope, Plymouth, and Robbinsdale along with western park and recreation
departments of Chanhassen, Chaska, Hopkins, Minnetonka, and St. Louis Park.
ADULT ATHLETICS
SOFTBALL
COMPETITIVE
WHERE: Harley Hopkins Fields
105 Jackson Ave. South
Hopkins
WHEN: Mondays
June 9 -August II
TIME: 6:30 - 8:00 p.m.
FEE $30.00 Resident
SLIDES TO: $35.00 Non-Resident
(co-sponsored by RidgedaleYMCA)
NON-COHPETITIVE
WHERE: Harley Hopkins Fields
105 Jackson Ave. South
WHEN: Thursdays
June 5 - August 14
TIME: 6:30 - 8:00 p.m.
FEE $30.00 Resident
SLIDESTO: $35.00 Non-Resident
Tir~h~ % I~i~, ~i.~r...
In order to receive Ticket To Ride
Services, your program registration
must be received in our office one week
prior to the start of the program or
you will not be eligible to receive a ride
the first week of the program.
To schedule transportation to the
program, please call:
Dial-A-Ride at (952) 474-7441
Each quarter you must call Dial-A-Ride
and request rides for the programs you
have registered for. If you have any
questions about the Ticket To Ride
Service, please call Renae Lutner at
(952) 988-4178
Thank You So Much For Your Support!
Bowl-a-Thon Sponsors 2003
Jeff & Diane Anderes
Baratz Family Foundation
Bechler Landscape, Inc.
Benefit Partners, Inc.
Bremer Bank
Commercial Furniture Services
Comprehensive Valuation Services
Dean-SuperiorVending Co.
Doherty Temporary Services
Duke Realty Corporation
Fab Babz
Stephen Garmon
Hoffmann & Swintek Accountants
Jobboss/Exact Software
Life Touch Corporation
McGough Construction
Morrie's Mazda
Paramount Realty
Benjamin Ruff
Skold Dental Laboratory Inc.
Welsh Companies
Bowl-a-Thon Donors 2003
Byerly's
Champps
Chanhassen DinnerTheater
Cinema Grill in Edina
Cities 97
Cub Foods
(Bowl-a-thon donors cont'd.)
KDWB 101.3
Medina Entertainment Center
Minnesota Landscape Arboretum
Minnesota Twins
MinnesotaVikings
Minnesota Zoo
Music Box Theater
New HopeYMCA ~
Old LogTheater
Plymouth Playhouse
Rainbow Foods
Science Museum of Minnesota
St. Paul Saints
Target- Knollwood
Target- Maple Grove
Target - Southdale
Three Rivers Park District ~
Walker Art Center
Wal-Mart- Brooklyn Park
Wal-Mart - Maple Grove
Other Reach Contributors
"Celebration of Diversity" Picnic
Free! Community event sponsored by Chaska Park
and Recreation Department
Friday, June 20
I:00 - 6:00 p.m.
Activities include water games, fishing, BBQ and
resource booths at Fireman's Park (west of Highways
212/41 intersection)
6:00 p.m.
Hopkins VFW Post 425
Ken & Maggie Schneeberg
Barbara Kleist
Nancy Borgstrom
Mary Perkins
Native American ceremony and dedication of Indian burial mounds at City Square
Park (rain site will be the Chaska Community Center, 1661 Park Ridge Drive)
7:00 p.m.
Evening band concert by Vic Tedesco at City Square Park (rain site will be the
Chaska Community Center at 166 ! Park Ridge Drive)
For more information, call the REACH offices or Joan at (952) 448-3178, Ext. 7760
Registration Form
To reserve a spot in any Reach for Resources recreation program, advance payment is required. NO REGISTRATIONS WILL BE COLLECTED
ATTHE PROGRAMS OR BY PHONE. Please mail check or money order, along with registration form below, to R~ach for Resources. To help
ensure a spot in the program(s) of your choice, mail in payment and registration form as soon as possible. Residents of the West & Northwest
consortium of cities receive preference in registration. Registration is then open to non-residents of the consortium cities one week
prior to the start of the programs (unless program is full).
Name: - Birth Date:
Address: City: Zip Code:
Home Phone: Work Phone:
Emergency Contact:
Emergency Phone:
Do you receive County funded waivered services and wish to have Reach for Resources bill for these programs? 121YES ~ NO
Annual Income: I~1 0-$49,999 [] $150,000-$249,999
I~1 $50,000-$99,999 I~ $250,000-up
E3 $ 100,000-$149,999
Disability (please include specific information such as seizures, allergies, special diet etc.):
Do you require wheelchair accessiblity?
[ ] YES. [ ] NO
Social Worker:
Social Worker's Phone Number:
Parent/Guardian: Home Phone:
Address: Zip Code: Work Phone:
Photo Waiver: My picture/name/both may be used for publicity purposes? [ ] YES [ ] NO
I, the undersigned, certify that the above information is accurate. I also understand that participation in this activity is completely voluntary and the activity .
is being offered for the benefit of the participant. Reach for Resources shall not be liable for any claims, injuries, or'damages of whatever nature, incurred
by the participant arising out of, or connected with, the activity. On behalf of myself and the participant, I expressly forever release and discharge Reach for
Resources, its agents or employees, from any such claims, injuries or damages.
Legal GUardian: Date: -
CheckThe Program(s)You Are Registering For:
August Action
Youth Bowling- Doyle's
Youth Bowling- Pk. Tavern
Rainbow Kids-Maple Grove
Rainbow Kids- Chanhassen
~Sports Sampler Youth Softball
North Teen Explorers
West Teen Explorers
Teen Bowling- Doyle's
Teen Bowling- Park Tavern
Teen Softball
Resident/Non-Resident
($30.00/$35,00)
($30.00/$35.00)
($30.00/535.00)
($40.00/$45.00)
($35.00/$40.00)
($30.00/$35.00)
($32.00/$37.00)
($35.00/$40.00)
($35.00/$40.00)
($30.00/$35.00)
($30.00/$35.00)
($32.00/$37.00)
"Take Five" Respite
On The Town I
~On The Town II
ClubWest
Wed. Night Social
__Cooking Around the World
Golden Years Club
Adult Bowling - Doyle's :
Adult Bowling - Pk. Tavern
Adult Bowling - Village No.
Softball - Competitive
~Softbail- Non-Competitive
Resident/Non-Resident
Packet will be sent
($ ~ 5.00/$20.00)
($15.00/$20100)
($30.00/$35.00) ~-lJJJ~
($30.00/$35.00) ~-~J~
($30.00~540.00)
($2o.oo/$25.oo) _
($30.00/$35.00)
($30.00~535.00)
($30.00/$35.00)
($30.00/$35.00)
($30.00/$3S.00)
[ ] YES, I want TicketTo Ride services. I will maintain responsibility for scheduling my own rides through Dial -A - Ride at 952/474~7441.
If you need assistance completing the registration form or with making payments, please contact: Renae (952) 988-4178
SUMMER 2003
TICKET TO RIDE=
Mail completed form to:
Reach for Resources
1001 Highway 7, Room 2 ! 7
Hopkins, MN 55305
If you or someone at this address no
longer wishes to receive this mailing,
please inform us by calling (952) 988-4177.
Your call will help us save on the high cost
of printing and mailing. Thank you!
formerly West Hennepin Community Services, Inc.
1001 Highway 7, #217
'Hopkins, MN 55305
(9S2)
Address
Service
Requested
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US Postage Paid
Hopkins MN
Permit No 653
Todd Hoffman
690 City Center Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
PROGRAM COSTS AND FEES
The fees listed in our newsletter represent only part of the actual cost of our programs
and are actually the bottom of Reach's sliding fee scale. Reach uses a sliding fee scale to
charge participants who have no other available third party reimbursement that can
cover the full cost of our programs. The listed fees apply ONLY to people without 3rd
party reimbursement whose incomes are below $50,000, and people with higher
incomes should pay more on the scale, up to the full cost of each program.
We work hard not to turn anyone away due to inability to pay. Should the designated fee
prove too burdensome, clients may call the department director to request a scholarship,
a smaller fee, or to have the fee waived. These requests will be assessed on a case-by-
case basis. If you have any questions or concerns about our costs or fee scale, please
contact Mary at (952) 988-4177.
. PARK INCLUSIONS
Reach for Resources provides inclusion facilitators for children and adults who
participate in their city park and recreation programs. Registration for a program
is done through your city park and recreation department.After registration, contact
Reach for Resources to discuss the needs/accommodations of your child. We require
a minimum of two weeks notice for a successful inclusion.
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Youth soccer emotions boiling over in Blaine
Mike Kaszuba, Star Tribune
Published May 29, 2003 SOOR29
More than a thousand boys and girls play youth soccer in Blaine. The
youngest start at age 3, and the best get professional coaching. Parents
can buy official soccer club jackets for $51.
But the real action these days is off the field at Tasty Pizza, where the
Blaine Soccer Club holds its meetings. For much of the year, the club
has been under siege.
There is a lawsuit -- filed by two parents, one of whom is a former club
president -- in which an Anoka County judge has been asked to have the
club's finances audited and to issue a restraining order halting all of its
nonessential activities. There is a petition asking, among other things,
why the club is raising fees while it sits on $100,000 in the bank. And
there are questions surrounding current president Steve Bengston and his
wife, Rachael, who earns $30,000 a year as club administrator.
The underlying issues, however, have as much to do with the fragile
egos of parents and their children as they do with the finances of big-
time, suburban youth sports.
"It should be about the kids," said Peter Brehm, an attorney for Michael
and Diana O'Connor, who sued the soccer club in April. "[But] this is
not simply about kids playing soccer when there's $300,000 being
passed around. This is a good-sized corporation."
Playing time
Court documents in the case contain dozens of e-mails from parents that
were written as the controversy became increasingly heated -- and as
tempers flared over playing time for children and the selection of
coaches. The club, a private, nonprofit organization, has nearly 30
traveling teams.
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In one e-mail, Berry and Tracie Arrowsmith told other parents in March
that jockeying for playing time had akeady begun. The couple wrote:
"That's right parents, some players have akeady been guaranteed a
certain amount of playing time each and every game and other players
have earned the fight to pick their position that they play.
"Here is our question: How much playing time is our son guaranteed?
We will talk to him tonight, let him choose his position, and we will let
you know his choice at the next practice."
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In an affidavit, Bengston said the controversy goes to January, when he
was accused of trying to replace a coach so his son could be on a select
team. He said it actually was Diana O'Connor, a former club president,
who tried to steer the selection of a coach. When she failed, he said, she
"took aim" at the club's board of directors, then circulated "accusations,
insults and slanderous remarks" about him.
In April, the club sent Diana O'Connor a letter suspending her from the
organization for three years for threatening to file a lawsuit and for
"conduct unbecoming a member of the Blaine Soccer Club."
The O'Connors then sued. According to their attorney, the suit aims to
probe the club's finances and is not linked to any on-the-field issues.
The financial issues center on Bengston, who has been president since
October. More than two dozen parents signed a petition supporting the
O'Connors, who questioned the soccer club's decision last fall to pay
$500 a month to lease space from a company that Bengston owns. The
O'Connors, in their suit, said the lease arrangement was unnecessary
since the soccer club had no staff, does not hold meetings at the site, has
no office phone and gets its mail through a post office box.
Court records stated that the move came two months after the club, with
Bengston serving as treasurer, voted to hire his wife at $30,000 a year,
with the potential to earn an additional $5,000 bonus.
Bengston, in his affidavit, said he was not directly involved in either
decision. "While I agreed with the board that space should be sought, I
did not even vote for the club to rent space from my company," he said.
"In fact, during the discussion of the board on this item, I rejected
accepting the amount of money initially recommended because I thought
it was unseemly."
As for his wife, he stated: "I did not make a motion to hire Rachael or
make a motion to pay her."
Ken Wasche, the soccer club's lawyer, said that board members,
including Bengston, would not comment. He said the suit is frivolous,
adding that while he has represented other youth sports organizations,
the soccer club has taken parent acrimony to a new level. 'Tve never
seen it devolve into litigation," he said.
Rochelle Orr, director of operations for the Minnesota Youth Soccer
Association, agreed. "I haven't seen that in my tenure here," she said of
her organization, which represents 135 soccer clubs in Minnesota and
Wisconsin, including Blaine.
"I don't think we have any more complaints.., any more problems than
any other sport does," she said, adding that "it's not up to us to settle
disputes within the clubs."
Debra Clark, who has one child playing soccer in Blaine, has signed a
petition asking for a special club meeting and said she would attend
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Youth soccer emotions boiling over in Blaine Page 3 of 3
Sunday's board meeting at Tasty Pizza.
"I'm a friend of the O'Connors and I only have their version of the
events," she said. She added that she and her husband have served in
youth hockey and basketball organizations but have never come across
the emotions now boiling over in Blaine.
Diana O'Connor, in an e-mail written in March, asked parents to keep
the controversy in perspective. "These kids just want to play together
and have fun. They have formed solid friendships off the field as well,"
she wrote.
But another parent replied: "You... made a comment on the fact that all
the boys want to do is play soccer. Well, I don't know about you, but I
want them to improve to the point they can play varsity high school and
more.
"It is essential to have fun, but also to learn," he added.
Mike Kaszuba is at
>mkaszuba@startribune. com.
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