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1994 02 22 Agenda ie . . AGENDA PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 22, 1994,7:30 P.M. CHANHASSEN CITY HALL, 690 COULTER DRIVE CALL TO ORDER - 7:30 P.M. 1. Approval of January 25, 1994 Park and Recreation Commission Minutes. 2. Visitor Presentations Chuck Rienstra, Vice President of Operations, Tonka United Soccer. 3. Land Development Proposal Preliminary plat to subdivide 19.7 acres into 26 single family lots on property zoned RSF and located at the southeast comer of the intersection of Highway 7 and Minnewashta Parkway, Minnewashta Landing. 4. Request for a Resolution of Support; City of Minnetonka in regard to a Proposed Golf Course Development on the former Oak Terrace Nursing Home Site. 5. Administrative Presentations A. Senior Center Report . . B. Daddy Daughter Date Night; Evaluation i Vcrb(JJ C. Skating Rink Program, Verbal D. New Chanhassen Recreation Center Highway 5 and Galpin Boulevard, Verbal 6. Commission Member Presentations A. February Festival 7. Administrative Packet . . . CHANHASSEN PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING JANUARY 25, 1994 Prior to the regular meeting, the Park and Recreation Commission heard a presentation by Bill Livingston of Earl F. Anderson and Associates, Inc. regarding playground safety from guidelines to standards. Acting Chairman Andrews called the regular meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: Jim Andrews, Jan Lash, Jane Meger, Ron Roeser, Fred Berg and Jim Manders STAFF PRESENT: Todd Hoffman, Park and Rec Coordinator; Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation Supervisor; and Dawn Lemme, Program Specialist APPROV AL OF MINUTES: Berg moved, Manders seconded to approve the Minutes of the Park and Recreation Commission meeting dated December 14, 1993 as presented. All voted in favor and the motion carried. VISITOR PRESENT A TIONS: None ORGANIZATIONAL ITEMS: A. SELECTION OF CHAIRPERSON AND VICE-CHAIRPERSON. Roeser: Recommendations? Andrews: Sure. That's what we're here for. Hoffman: Unfortunately you do not have your seventh member so that person will be at a disadvantage obviously. Lash: Do we know who the seventh member is? Hoffman: No. They've had one interview to date and the others will be completed on the 31st of January. Berg: Do they have our recommendation as well? 1 Hoffman: Yes. . Andrews: Well I'm interested in chairing if anybody's interested else, please speak up. Roeser: No, I would nominate Jim Andrews for Chairperson. Andrews: Anyone else that would like to do it? Lash: I'd do it if nobody else wants to. If Jim wants to, that's fine. Manders: What's the seniority? Andrews: We're the same. We started at the same time, didn't we? Lash: No. I started before you. I completed a term and I was reappointed at the same time as you...but if you're interested, I wouldn't... Andrews: Okay. Are you interested in Vice Chair? Lash: Fine. Unless somebody else wants that. Andrews: Anybody else interested in that? I think we should have it in the form of a motion. If somebody would make that motion. Berg: So moved. . Andrews: Okay, the motion is that Jim Andrews would be Chairman and Jan Lash would be Vice Chairman. Is there a second to that motion? Roeser: I'll second. Berg moved, Roeser seconded to appoint Jim Andrews as Chairman and Jan Lash as Vice Chairman of the Park and Recreation Commission for 1994. All voted in favor and the motion carried. B. ADOPT RULES OF CONDUCT. Andrews: Item 2 is to adopt rules of conduct. I guess I'm not sure exactly what that means other than I think it means that we're adopting Robert's Rules of Order on a somewhat informal basis. And that would be as in the past. Lash: So moved. Berg: Second. 2 . . . . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 Lash moved, Berg seconded to adopt the Robert's Rules of Order for the year 1994. All voted in favor and the motion carried. C. 1993 ATTENDANCE REPORT. Andrews: The 1993 attendance report I think is informational only. We'll move on that item. D. 1994 MEETING DATES AND TIMES. Andrews: 1994 meeting dates and times. That is something we've looked at in the past, particularly relating to certain holidays. How we fit in around those dates. Take a minute now and look at how those dates are on the calendar. See if you have any suggestions on how those might need to be changed. And we had discussed earlier that we were looking at continuing our fourth Tuesday official meeting, second Tuesday work sessions. Hoffman: Correct. Andrews: Okay. Lash: I would move that we accept that schedule. Meger: Second. Lash moved, Meger seconded to accept the 1994 meeting dates and times for the Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission as presented. All voted in favor and the motion carried. E. SCHEDULE OF ATTENDANCE. CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. Andrews: Item E was the attendance at the City Council meetings. That's informational again I would say. Is there anybody that has a date on there they know for sure is already a conflict? Roeser: Yeah I do for I believe February 28th. Andrews: I'll switch it because I'm going to be out of the town on the 14th. So let's you and I switch. Any other dates that need to be switched at this time? If not, if you're aware of a conflict, try to bring it up and we'll see who we can just arrange a switch. There are lots of issues that will be coming up with all the developments that are going through here 3 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . that we need representation so. I did attend last night's Council meeting and really nothing too major there happened as far as parks, other than the approval of the rezoning of the school but that was sort of a foregone conclusion so. Let's move on to item 5. Lash: Can you give me just one minute? I wanted to tell Todd this before I forget. I have a new phone number and I'll give it to you after the meeting. Andrews: Actually I do too. Why don't we do that now on the record too just so it gets printed. Lash: Mine's... Andrews: Okay, well I'll give mine. My work number is 476-0933. LAND DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL. PRELIMINARY PLAT OF 37 ACRES OF PROPERTY INTO 57 SINGLE F AMIL Y LOTS LOCATED NORTH OF KINGS ROAD AND WEST OF MINNEWASHTA PARKWAY. HARSTAD COMPANIES. Public Present: . Name Address Paul Harstad Sue Morgan Linda Scott Harold Taylor Keith Bedford Allin M. Karls Doug Reichert Janet Carlson Stan Rud 2191 Silver Lake Road, New Brighton 4031 Kings Road 4031 Kings Road 3861 Stratford Ridge 3961 Stratford Ridge 3920 Stratford Ridge 3901 Stratford Ridge 4141 Kings Road 2030 Renaissance Court Todd Hoffman presented the staff report on this item. Andrews: Todd, if you could do one thing. On the blueprint up there of the development, could you just point out the area that we're recommending as the park area? Hoffman: Yep. On this plat the applicant has shown the proposed park dedication in this 4 . . . . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 area. It's a portion of the Headla property. Totaling approximately 2.42 acres. The 10 acres which the city is looking to encompasses approximately this type of configuration. Andrews: Okay. So approximately from the road to the east. Hoffman: ...this road and then back down. That's...park site. Plan A encompasses. Andrews: Okay, thank you. Paul Harstad: Sorry I missed your presentation but I guess our view of this one is that when we originally, or when the developer originally came to the city, there was a lot of discussion about where the park would be located and we went through a couple of, apparently there were a couple, two or three different proposals and we agreed to go for the one up in the northwest side. And then apparently that fell through with the negotiations with that landowner or something to that effect. And I'm here as a representative of our company. I admittedly am not real familiar with the project but I do know that out stance is that we do not intend to give that land to the parks commission for development of a park, and the reason simply is because it would destroy the entire plat. That is far and away the most valuable of all the land on the plat and to create a park there would more or less ruin the property. So if the parks commission still recommends denial of the plat in the event that we do not give that land to the parks commission, then the next step for us frankly is, it's out of my hands. Of course it's still in my company's hands but it just goes to the lawyers from that point. Andrews: Okay. Paul Harstad: If I can answer any questions, I'd be more than happy to. Andrews: Okay. Is there anybody here from the city of Chanhassen, any residents that wish to state their views about this application for plat approval? Please state your name and address for the record please. Janet Carlson: Janet Carlson. I live at 4141 Kings Road. I have some questions on the park like how many parking spots are they planning on? Hoffman: I believe we're at about 12 to 16 parking stalls. Janet Carlson: Okay. Now I didn't hear everything that you were saying but did you plan on having swimming there also? 5 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . Hoffman: The lake shore potentially could be developed into a public swimming area. Janet Carlson: What are you going to do with all the cars? You're going to have cars upon cars upon cars. We've lived on Kings Road for years and when Leech's lived there, there were many days you couldn't even get home. And believe you me, I will not ever go through that crap again. Hoffman: The decisions or the process of designing the park involves the neighborhood. At tonight's meeting we aren't even obviously at that point. Reached that point but if the property were to be acquired, then the commission would hold neighborhood meetings. Design input meetings where the neighborhood has a say in how the property is eventually developed. Janet Carlson: But then I mean we could all have our say but it's you [mal people that make up the decision and say what we're going to have anyway, right? Hoffman: Your appeal would certainly have to be made both to the Park and Recreation Commission and City Council. Janet Carlson: But what I'm saying is regardless of how we feel or what we say, you people make the final decision and do what you want anyway, right? . Berg: Well that's, excuse me but that's sort of throwing it in the face of how the system works the way I understand it. As servants of the public I understand that we listen to input and that becomes very valuable. I don't think we make a decision in a vacuum based on what we want We're concerned what the citizens of Chanhassen, particularly this neighborhood, what so no, that's not the way we make a decision. Janet Carlson: But when you consider at the most 16 parking spots for a park, for that many people, that doesn't even make any sense does it? Berg: I'm not hearing that the 16 or any number is a set in stone figure. What I'm hearing is I think we're a long ways away from that. Janet Carlson: Okay but this is one of our things is the traffic. This is one thing that we really are concerned with because it's just going to be a mess. That road from Minnewashta Parkway is far too busy now, you know...and we're really going to have a mess on our hands. Berg: Let me ask you if I could, if I could ask you a question. Is there, and I'm not asking 6 .1 . . . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 for any specifics because it's too early I'm assuming for you folks too to have any elaborate plans laid out. Is there a sense that there could be an accommodation made where we can sit and talk to each other and come up with something that could be mutually agreeable? Mutually agreeable is not even the right word because it's you the folks that have to live with the park. Are you saying that a park here is impossible? That's what you're saying? Janet Carlson: Yeah, I really feel that way because anyway at one time I know, one of the first plans were for a ball diamond or something in there, you know. But not to hold ball games and this sort of thing. Just for the neighborhood people to come and play ball. There just isn't going to be enough parking spots. Just parking with...and I know this is a city park but across Lake Minnewashta is this huge park. Hundreds of acres and hardly any of it is used for anything. So I guess I kind of look at that you know. But then if we put this one here, then everybody's going to be their's is going to have a swimming beach and it's just going to be a neighborhood. But it's not going to just be a neighborhood deal. You'll have more stuff there and it's just, the road is too busy to have a park right there I feel. But that's what I feel. Meger: I have a question for Mr. Harstad again. The area that's identified on this plat, is that, there's a thin strip there. Will that be a swimming beach as well for the area, for the new residents? Paul Harstad: The city code prevents us from allowing that as a swimming area for the residents. Meger: So it would just be an open area. It wouldn't be identified as a swimming area? Paul Harstad: As I understand it, correct Sue Morgan: My name is Sue Morgan. I live at 4031 Kings Road which is this parcel right here. I am really confused. I know I stepped out and came back in and I missed the introduction of all of this but in following the figure plan that was presented by Gardner Bros, is this the same plan? Are you from Gardner Bros or who do you represent? Paul Harstad: I'm not from Gardner Bros or Heritage Development. I'm from Harstad Companies. We essentially re-submitted the same plat. Sue Morgan: Okay, you re-submitted the same plat that was declined? Paul Harstad: That's correct. 7 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . Sue Morgan: Why are we re-creating...? Paul Harstad: Well because we've looked into the legalities of it and we feel that this is essentially going to be a taking and this has become a legal issue. Sue Morgan: Okay, so basically what we're talking about is, what the city had wanted was the frontage area along Lake Minnewashta? Paul Harstad: Correct. Sue Morgan: And you guys are still wanting the park back here? Paul Harstad: It's not only that we are still wanting it back there. It's also that the, again as I understand it. I'm not..from some of the literature I've read on this development, the city and a previous developer agreed that would be the location for the park at one point. Apparently that was contingent upon sale of that land which after 2 years of negotiations it fell through. By then we had invested, well essentially the developer had invested thousands of dollars into this, the design of the plat. Sue Morgan: It was my understanding as well that this whole development was declined . because they were squeezing too many houses on too small of lots. The lot sizes were too small so it's like it wasn't only the park over here that was an issue but the whole layout. So what you're doing is you're just coming back, bringing it back...so basically we're spending our time and money as taxpayers, we're spending their time and money and you're just bringing back the same stuff. So what you're saying is, this is what you want. If they don't give it to you, you're going to sue? Is that what this is all about is the legality? Paul Harstad: There are in fact more issues than just the park. The issues that you're referring to about lot sizes are without question ones that you can resolve and this parks commission is not meeting because of those other issues. They're meeting specifically... Sue Morgan: For the park. Paul Harstad: The location of the park, yes. Sue Morgan: Okay. So this is the first step in the process then. If the parks commission pushes, if they still want the park here, then the ball starts rolling as far as legalities and... Paul Harstad: That's correct. 8 . . . . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 Sue Morgan: So you're saying that you feel that you're going to be losing valuable property by turning that property over to the city of Chanhassen? You won't be able to get as much for your development or it won't be worth as much or whatever if that property's turned into a park? Paul Harstad: Well I am saying that had we known that the park was going to be there in the fIrst place, again I didn't...originally but the original purchase agreement on the land would have been a lot different and chances are very good that we would not have even proceeded to even consider developing this land. So it really is an issue between the people of Chanhassen. What they want to have on that location, the developer and the city and what they had discussed with us at the initial stages of this development. Sue Morgan: I guess I...the whole situation is that I would like to not see that whole parcel developed at all but we know that's not realistic. In living directly across from the area in question, I assume that the park would go from about here to about the street? Roeser: About the street, yeah. Sue Morgan: About here, okay. That would tend to increase my property value. I guess I'm for it. I'd like to see a park in that area. I think that it's needed and I think there's a lot of activity along Minnewashta Parkway. People are kind of hanging out and need a place to go and I think there's a benefit to the neighborhood. I don't know how far away would be, the park would draw from. I don't know, was it Carver Acres or whatever that area is called...! think that'd be a good idea. But I hate to see so much of our time wasted in kind of rehashing this over and over again. I don't know what it's going to cost the city of Chanhassen or it's residents in legal fees... something you guys have to decide, but I'm in favor of the park. Thanks. Keith Bedford: Good evening. My name's Keith Bedford. I live at 3961 Stratford Ridge. I represent the Stratford Ridge Homeowners Association, which is on the north side of this development. And of the 15 property owners there, we were able to contact 13 of them and they've all opposed the park being up in the northwest comer of that development because of it's remoteness. I think with all the activities that take place in parks in late evenings, it would be better down in an area that is more visible. Where there's more patrol. Where there's more people. Also, we have the amenities of the lake to consider and if it can't be utilized for the development, this is an opportunity to utilize that lakeshore for the people of the development also. I think you would make a grave mistake by not having it in any other location than where... Thank you. Berg: Excuse me sir, where is your development in relationship? 9 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 Keith Bedford: We live on Stratford Ridge. This development here. Berg: Thank you. Allin Karls: My name is Allin Karls and I live at 3920 Stratford Ridge Drive and I would just like to briefly speak in support of the location that's recommended by the staff. Mainly for the same reasons. It is better visibility. A remote park in a total residential and rather sparsely populated area doesn't seem to be as wise as one that is close to the parkway itself and there are a lot of cars going by so you can see. It's easier to get to. I realize for the developer, it's never desirable to lose those front lots because of course those are more expensive lots but the rest of us have to live there for on and on and on and on and it is much more desirable to have that park accessible to more people in Chanhassen so I think the location is a good one and I would support that. Doug Reichert: Hi. I'm Doug Reichert. I live at 3901 Stratford Ridge. Same development as spoken from the last two gentlemen. We just moved down last June from Brooklyn Park and so we have an interesting perspective I think on what you're doing with parks down here. First I guess I'd like to say, I think the community is best served by putting a park where you're recommending, down by the lake. You've got lakes down here that you're really proud of and that was one of the things that drew us to the community here. I don't know why you want to stick a park back hidden, tucked away someplace. It's a community park and you need to be proud of it. Put it down where it is accessible from the bike path. Where it's easily patrolled, and I guess that patrolling part I don't want to gloss over quickly either because in Brooklyn Park they had an award winning park development program but some of the parks were tucked in areas that made them not easily patrolled and the things that went on in those parks were a great headache to the Brooklyn Park police department and the patrolling that they had to do. The problems were very, very difficult for the community and for the police department. So I think you want to make a park where it's visible...drive a great distance but this is going to be a small community park where we can walk down to or bike down to and so I can't imagine that we're going to be having traffic over flow problems where most of the access is going to be from those who are very near by. Then as far as the development, the balance of the development goes, I would think that would be a great sales feature where you've got this park that now a community property and all the homes that are bein develo ed back there have the 0 ortunit to 0 down and share in this ro e and . . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . this is a, that your recommendations, or what I understand that your conversations from the past...1 don't see any reason that it wouldn't go there. It just seems like the best place for all concerned that that's where the park belongs. Thank you. Andrews: I want to make one comment. We haven't decided there is a swimming beach yet so, that hasn't been decided. . Harold Taylor: My name is Harold Taylor and guess where I'm from. 3961 Stratford Ridge. We were here last year, or it probably wasn't a year ago but basically it seems like all this is just kind of a rehash. The parks was adamant about they wanted the location. I think the citizens in general are behind the location and then it's like the priorities or the sequence of approval of what goes fIrst in the development, other development to me is a little bit confusing. I mean we're talking about the parks and location of the parks and it was all tied together but until, I don't really know if the park issue is the fIrst issue or, it seems like you almost have to consider all the issues before you can approve the development. But with regards to the park, I think to the families, that we're for the park down at the lake. That would give the most access to it. Our area in general seems to have a lot of joggers from the Red Cedar Point area and so forth like that and there seems to be a lot of biking and the new trail system along the road there that we all went through to put that in. Basically it seems to be very well utilized so I can't see why the park wouldn't be a natural addition to go right along the roadway there. The pathway rather than hike back to the top of the hill towards Victoria. So that's kind of where I'm at. Thank you. Andrews: Is there anyone else from the audience that wishes to make a comment? Okay. Seeing none, why don't we start. Jan, if you want to. Lash: I had a couple of questions. First, well... I guess my question for the developer. It's not even a question. It's just my own personal opinion is I can't imagine that the lots that are the closest to Minnewashta Parkway could possibly be your most valuable pieces of property. I would think that they would be, with the frontage on Minnewashta Parkway would probably be your least valuable. That's one of the reasons why I thought this would be a better option for the developer is to take the ones that are on the busier the road would be easier for you to accept. Although I do think that this is the preferred location and I would be in favor of that. Can you explain to me why those would be more valuable? If I'm really off center. Paul Harstad: I think it's probably got to do with visibility of the development. Certainly we don't intend to create a residential development that ruins the natural beauty but you cannot see the lots from the main road, Minnewashta Parkway if the city has a park there. People aren't going to know that there's even a development back there. And again, I apologize. . 11 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . My father who runs this company is out of town so I'm speaking on his behalf. He could give you a lot more articulate reason for that. Lash: And is this the original owner? The property has changed hands? Paul Harstad: It has changed hands, yes. Lash: Okay. I can't keep all these developers and owners and stuff straight but it's a little confusing for me. Paul Harstad: But if I could ask the Park Commission a question. As I understood the literature, it says something to the effect that the Parks Commission would consider the location and layout of a park once the developer had come in to the city to propose development of this area. Is that correct? Andrews: That's the normal way we have to acquire parkland in most cases. Lash: And I think that was done with the original applicant and then when we reviewed that, we decided a different location would be preferred. So I don't even understand where this whole deal is coming from. If you're not the original owner, what does that have to do with . anything? I mean how can you go back and say that the City is not following through with some agreement that we made with someone that sold you the property and isn't even involved anymore. Or sold someone else the property. Paul Harstad: Why was it originally considered up here? Andrews: There was a potential coordination with the piece of property to the north that we were discussing as Todd was saying in the briefing that he read. That negotiation, that was an attempt on our part to acquire a piece of property that we thought we could buy with some efficiency and favorable terms so we were looking at a potential coordination there. The way I recall the facts, I don't recall any agreement being made. I recall some discussions happening but the way I understand the city functions is that there's no agreement until the City Council approves something. And that never occurred and that negotiation with Mrs. Hall en to the north never materialized into a urchase so it ma be a situation where the Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . Andrews: And legally there is no agreement unless it's approved by Council. Legally. Hoffman: There's final plat approval. Paul Harstad: Well in the meantime these plans were made up at no small cost and I'm sure that it was done in the same process as any other development and we've come back to resubmit the plans to the city. Regardless of whether it was a previous developer or new developer, the plans were resubmitted and suddenly the parameters have changed. Andrews: That does happen occasionally and I could give you many examples of the same thing happening. Lash: No but the parameters. When you submitted this the parameters hadn't changed because we changed the parameters with the last developer that was here and then the property changed hands... Paul Harstad: Well the fact is that the Parks Commission did change the parameters. Lash: Not since the last meeting. . Roeser: Not since the new owner came in, we haven't changed anything. Paul Harstad: This isn't a whole new ballgame? I'm sure that our company was well aware of this issue prior to. Roeser: Well I think that corner lot was an old ballgame, yeah. Andrews: This plat was brought in about a year ago looking like this and it was rejected, or not approved by the Park Commission with the same things we talked about now. That decision was made before your purchase of this property was made. So those facts were available to you. You obviously have all your options open to you and we have all our options open to us. We try to act in the best interest of the city. Sometimes there is potential conflict between developers and city governing bodies. Commercial developers, residential developers and there are avenues to remedy that and that could include legal action. It could include accommodation. So we listen to all ideas. Hoffman: If I could ask Mr. Harstad a few questions. The original proposal from Heritage, they obviously had a purchase agreement with the property owners contingent upon approvals. Is your purchase agreement then with Heritage or with the property owners? . 13 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . Paul Harstad: To be perfectly honest, I'm not even sure of the answer. I can find that out Hoffman: Because I think that would clarify. Jan, the original property owners still own the property. Heritage has a purchase agreement contingent upon approvals. Now we do not know who Harstad's agreement is with but. Andrew: If it's first party or second party? Lash: So the Ziegler's and the Wenzel's and all of those people still own this property? Hoffman: They still own it. Lash: Okay. Hoffman: And Heritage Development is certainly aware of where the city desires to locate the park. Meetings were held in that regard on numerous occasions. Mr. Harstad contacted me the first time and my conversation with him indicated that the city wanted a park on this site as Plan A and as my letter to Mr. Harstad in your packet explains, we made him fully aware upon his first contact to the city. Paul Harstad: Well at that point it wasn't, while we did feel it was worth our time and... time . to reconsider this, I don't know that the cost of their time. I know the County...there's a very substantial fee to get this rolling in the city. But it was not worth our time to ask the engineers to redraw these plats. Andrews: Sure, we understand that. I mean we all have costs and benefits that must be weighed in economic decisions and many developers come before us with plats that are critical to their economic needs that sometimes we can work with and sometimes we can't. And sometimes those developers go away and sometimes they come back with a new plan. So there is a give and take. Resident: Are you saying that when you had originally met with Heritage, Plan A for the park was down here? Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . Andrews: My recollection was that Heritage took the initiative to come back with showing the park on the northwest corner. It was not our recommendation to them that they come back with that particular location. So that's what they came to us with saying here's what we'd like to do. Paul Harstad: So in other words you didn't at that time have a recommendation? Andrews: It had not come to us for a recommendation yet. We were not approached prior to the first plat coming in saying you know we've got an idea, what do you think about it? It was, they just came to us and say here's our idea. We had heard about another piece of property. Wouldn't it be nice if we put our park, our dedicated land right next to that potential park. At that time we said that potential park doesn't look like it's going to happen. No, we don't like that idea. We want it down by the lake. So, that's the way I recall the chronology of what happened. Hoffman: When this came to any formal review by the Park Commission, Plan A was the plan for the park and the neighbors all said... Lash: That was always our plan. . Paul Harstad: When you made your formal recommendation, it was to have it down there? Andrews: Yes. Jan, did you have anything more to add? Lash: No. Andrews: Jane. Meger: I guess based on everything that I've heard here tonight and not being a commission member when the original plat came through, I see us continuing to push for the lakeshore property and the 10 acres for a couple of reasons. I guess one being the 2.4 acres that's identified there would not be much of a park and again the remoteness would, I think we've heard a lot of concern about that. I guess, and I don't feel that I would be unique in that considering the developer that I agree with the gentleman that spoke that I think the property values would be increased with a park in that location. I think it would be a great selling point. I know it would be certainly something that would draw me to that location so I think the lakeshore property for a park is the best option. Andrews: Ron. . 15 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . Roeser: Well yeah. It's been designated as a park deficient area to begin with. I really can't buy the idea that it's going to destroy the development by putting that park on the parkway. They've got the nice beach along the road. I would go along with staffs recommendation at this point. Andrews: Okay. My comments would be that if the city were to look at purchase of property, that we would be paying a fair price for it. That's the way the process works so for a property to say that there's an economic disadvantage to selling that property, I don't see that. I personally live in a neighborhood that has a private park that was purchased by the neighborhood association, which also has the lake frontage and we do not live directly adjacent to that property yet that was a major reason that we considered buying into our neighborhood. And so I look at this as a potential marketing advantage to the properties that are located away from the lake because those all could be given benefit of the lake frontage. In this case through a public park which does not require a private association dues or maintenance and could be far better equipped than our park is in our neighborhood. Also I recall very much what happened here about a year ago and our position at that time was very strong that we thought that the park should be located near the lake and I support that now more than ever seeing the pace of development and that the need is still not being met in this area of our city. Manders: I agree. The one point I guess I'd make is that accessibility to the back park area . that's being suggested is just not there and with the trail along the parkway now, it's the obvious choice to leave it where it's recommended. Berg: I don't really have anything else to say that hasn't been said. Just we've identified this area as park deficient for the last 8 years. Plan A, the lakeshore property is available. It seems to me that I would still stand behind the original motion. I'd also just like to reiterate though when and if it does happen, we really concentrate on working well with the residents in the area to maximize the use for the park. Andrews: That's one point I want to really stress is that that's the way we operate. We are not insensitive to adjacent property owners or nearby property owners. In fact we go into great deal of depth to making sure that we are responsible in the park in a neighborhood. That we don't have inconsistent uses or over use of the park so I'd agree with that. Can we have a motion on this issue then? Roeser: I'll move that we accept the commission's recommendations. Lash: Staff's recommendations? 16 . . . . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 Roeser: Yes. Manders: Second. Roeser moved, Manders seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend the City Council approve the preliminary plat as presented with the inclusion of acquisition of the 10+ acre park depicted in Park Plan A including the lakeshore property. The acquisition of the park to be accomplished through park dedication of 1.72+ acres and purchase of 7.48+ acres. This acquisition shall be a condition of final plat approval. A Purchase Agreement shall be negotiated by the City Attorney contingent upon City Council approval. Full park fee credit ($38,700.00 on 43 homes) is to be granted as a part of these negotiations. Acceptance of full trail dedication fees in force upon building permit application is recommended. Current trail fees are $300.00 per single family residential unit. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. LAND DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL. CONCEPTUAL PUD FOR 121 ACRES OF INDUSTRIAL OFFICE PARK. MULTI-FAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT LOCATED SOUTH OF HIGHWAY 5. EAST OF TIMBERWOOD OFF OF AUDUBON ROAD: CHANHASSEN CORPORATE CENTER. HIGHWAY 5 PARTNERSHIP. RYAN COMPANIES. RLK ASSOCIATES. Todd Hoffman stated that this was pulled from the Park and Recreation Commission agenda per the applicant's request. 1994 PARK AND RECREATION GOALS. Todd Hoffman gave a staff report on this item. Andrews: Are you looking for prioritization of these goals or just additions or deletions to these goals? Hoffman: Additions or deletions. Lash: I have a question on the very fIrst one. Equip all satellite skating rinks with electrical service and light. Is that what we fInally came up with after, no? Hoffman: Not in '94. In '94 we've identifIed North Lotus Lake Park as the only one with the light facilities. 17 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . Lash: Yeah, that's what I thought. So why would we want to put that as one of your goals? Andrews: Yeah, let's make that goal consistent with what we plan to do. Lash: I was a little confused by that one. Hoffman: Well, if you recall we had an opportunity for an additional $33,000.00 in funding... so these goals were made at a time when the potential to have that additional funding we could enlarge our 1994 CIP. That's no longer the case so this would be one of those goals which...at this point because it's not identified because we don't have the additional money. I still firmly believe that our rinks are being under utilized because when we're making them, it's waste because we do not have the satellite warming houses and lights available so staff feels... Andrews: Are we proceeding then with North Lotus at this point? That's for summer then? Summer construction and then next winter use? Hoffman: Correct. So that goal will be refined. Manders: I have a couple comments. One on the goal, about 10 or 11 down there it says double recreation and leisure program registration levels. I get, when you see that, it says . double it. It seems like a lot but it probably isn't. Can you elaborate on that a little bit? Hoffman: It's a goal which I have set for our park staff. Park and recreation staff in that if we bring on credit cards and fax registrations right along with increasing programs...We'lllet you know what it actually turns out to be but we really feel when a person will be able to open their brochure this summer and take a look at a class, pick up the phone at any time of the night or day and speak into a recording and very easily sign up for a class with a credit card, that's going to increase. Hopefully we can do a good job of doing that and increase our program registration. Lash: And can we handle that? Hoffman: Sure. Lash: Our facilities can handle doubling? Hoffman: It depends on our facilities and staff levels certainly are limiting factors with this. Meger: Yeah, I think just to kind of tie into that. I was curious about that too and how it 18 . . . . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 tied into the abolishment of non-resident softball players. If it would be a balancing there. I'm not sure how many non-resident softball players we have right now but. Andrews: She hasn't been here for a softball meeting yet Ruegemer: That's going to be...Chaska has got...this last summer and I know it's a tough program to have but I think as our facilities are frequently more and more strained on an annual ba~. 'i... Berg: What do you mean by non-resident? Ruegemer: Non-resident is anybody not working or living full time in the city. Berg: Not living or working. So people that work. Ruegemer: Working inside the city constitutes 35... Berg: Right. People who work at Instant Webb or places like that. Ruegemer: Right. Manders: Then the other comment that I had was a couple lines down. The Bandimere Park. Initiate tree plantings in areas which will be undisturbed for future development. In relation to what we've talked about in the past, does that flow with our normal thinking? Hoffman: ...sell the property there's no need to make improvements. Berg: It might sell better though if you've got trees on it. It might look better if it had trees on it though. Andrews: Todd a couple things I'd like to do more of. Last year we took that trip over to Shoreview to see their community center. Those kinds of things are really viable to see what other cities are doing. I don't know if it's even possible to maybe invite somebody from another city to come here and tell us about their program if they had a different program that we don't have. I've often said geez, it'd be nice to have some sort of a boat program on the lake. Well, maybe get somebody here that's from a city that has a boat program and tell us what's good about it and tell us what's terrible about it. Or other things like that are valuable. Hoffman: Okay. We also talked at stafflevel today that the National Congress is going to 19 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . be meeting of the NPRA, National Park and Recreation Congress and that's an opportunity for you as commission members to get out and see the big event Not just on a state level but on a national level. It's being hosted by the city of Minneapolis October 16th. Manders: Is that the one that was in San Francisco this year or last year? Hoffman: San Jose. It's in our back door and hopefully we can get all of you out to at least a portion of that. Whether it be a half day or full day, a couple days...have you get involved. So you'll be seeing mailings because you're members and go ahead and look through those and pick out some days or events or workshops which you might be. Meger: Which days are they? Hoffman: Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Lash: Jerry, I have one for you too. On your's number 15. ...I'm starting to sound like a broken record on this but we need to talk about that. I have a little 6th grade input just the other day and it wasn't good. It made me feel bad and. Ruegemer: For...? . Lash: Well I told my son the teen night was, the last one he went to he said he had a lot of fun and then he had to skip the next one and I said, I told him it was coming up Friday and did he want to go and he said no. I said why not. He said there's too many big kids and the 6th graders, it's not fun to get picked on and it was too rough. So that concerned me when I heard that. So I think with the number of kids that we're getting at the middle school, we need to look at maybe separating it somewhat. And I realize it makes either fewer parties total or more work to have more parties to be able to still provide that many nights but have it separated and I don't know. I know it creates more work for you but when a kid says that to you, I take it pretty serious because he's not usually a whiner about that kind of stuff. Ruegemer: Thank you for your input on that. Roeser: What made us ever include 6th graders to begin with? You know they're not even Jr. High yet are they? Lash: They're at the middle school. 6th, 7th and 8th is at the middle school. But for the school dances that they have, and 6th grade is really pretty much segregated during the school day. They're in their whole separate wing so they don't have a lot of contact with the 7th and 8th graders to start with and then when they have the school dances, 6th grade is 20 . . . . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 separate. And I think there's some sound reasons for that. Behind that and we need to, I can imagine what they are but I think we need to think about that too. Andrews: I'd like to expand on goal number 5. This is something I've talked about before. It still bothers me that all, or most of the published programs are coordinated with District #112 and for instance the ski trip to Welch Village was coordinated with school times of District #112. The bus picked up the kids at School District #112. At a building in their school district I guess I feel this is a city sponsored program. We need to at least occasionally offer something that allows access to kids that are in the Minnetonka School District. If it is a city function, it should be accessible and I don't feel we've done a good job of that. Hoffman: Jerry and I talked specifically about that issue in regard to the ski trips and I asked him to continue to converse with the leadership in recreation in #276. They have, not shut us out but they offer their ski trips and we want to be able to intermingle and say, youths from #276 and #112, you're both involved in this but I fully understand when you're down at the Chaska level and if we want to attempt to do this, we have to get permission from the Minnetonka Community Education. To come up and do registrations, have pick-ups there. Andrews: I'm not sure you have to have a pick-up there but maybe an alternate time. Lash: If it's after school on a Friday after school and it's published in the paper, would we not be able to just take registrations like we normally would and kids who are in the Minnetonka School District could certainly register to go and have the bus start in Chaska. Pick-up the kids from Chaska and then swing over to the Minnetonka Intermediate School. It's right down TH 41 and then head out from there. And you know rather than canvasing the whole Minnetonka School District and passing a thing out through school because then you get all the Minnetonka kids too and then that's, then we're over run with too many kids. (There was a tape change at this point in the discussion.) Andrews: ...authorize the goals of item 7 as amended and before it goes to the Council for their approval? Lash: Second. Andrews moved, Lash seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission authorize that the 1994 goals of the Park and Recreation Commission be approved as amended. All voted in favor and the motion carried. 21 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . PRIORITIZE 1994 PARK ACQUISITION AND DEVELOPMENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. Andrews: I guess one question I would have is, after the presentation we had from 6:30 to 7 :30, how does that affect this budget? I mean does that put us in a position of total chaos again? Hoffman: No. Andrews: Okay. Dollar wise, I think we're in good shape there aren't we for total dollars? Hoffman: Total dollars with the increased park fees, I anticipate sending...we should do fairly well. However, we all have in the back of our minds this large dollar figures which we will be spending on land acquisition so that money will be dedicated. The list is shorter than in past years so as far as prioritization. Andrews: To me Pheasant Hills is one that's dragging. Lash: Yep. I would put that as number one. And it's a given that we're going to have to make a purchase order for a bunch of playground equipment so we should just start reviewing . that as soon as possible and get that order in so we know the stuff will be here in the spring and then the guys can install it as they have the time. So just getting that order done should be in, should be number one. But then I would put Pheasant Hills development there as number one also. Maybe with North Lotus skating. Andrews: Todd, do you already have a schedule of the various playground sites as far as our retrofit schedule of where we're going to fit 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and what the costs are going to be yet or is that something we're just starting to do? Hoffman: It's been ongoing. In the past I've not brought those changes formally to the Park and Recreation Commission. Andrews: Where do those dollars come? Do those come out of a secret fund or how do we fund that? Todd Hoffman's answer wasn't audible on the tape. Andrews: Okay. Just that it sounded like a huge project and if we're doing it sort of with slush money without it really being on the budget, I guess at least from an informational standpoint I'd like to know what we're spending. Maybe it doesn't need to be authorized but 22 . . . . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 I think, I'm quite concerned after the presentation tonight that that's going to turn into some huge dollars. And if we need to schedule it, I mean it would seem to be stressed by Anderson that we needed to have a schedule legally. For legal purposes and that gives us a way to look at budget dollars again. Hoffman: Many of the upgrades were undertaken as a part of a second phase so you budgeted second phase for North Lotus play expansion, North Lotus Lake. So we say we have $12,000.00. What are we going to get? $4,000.00 worth of new equipment and about $8,000.00 worth of refurbishments to bring the equipment to the standards so that's been the basis to date and we just do that continually. Lash: So I'm going to go back to the question I asked this guy earlier. Would we better off just skipping some of the phase two's if that means, I'm not sure...and use the money to do new ones to start with instead of having to spend 3/4 of the money on just going back and moving equipment. Old equipment around and putting in new pea rock, or is it going to have to be done anyway so we might as well just bite the bullet and do it? Hoffman: It's going to have to be done. Again it's another very strong argument when we go back to City Council in 1995 for general obligation dollars to do these upgrades and bring our current equipment up to standards. The cost of some of these playgrounds, the larger ones, Lake Ann ballfield, we're working on accessibility this year as far as... Lash: But that's something we could, I know we talked at our last meeting a little bit about different funding sources. Is that something that we could generate maybe an ongoing, not a contract but an agreement that each year we could count on a certain amount of money from certain sources to use to upgrade playgrounds? Andrews: I wouldn't even use the word upgrading them. Bringing them into compliance. Lash: No, that's what I mean. Andrews: That makes it sound a lot different. Hoffman: That's been one avenue of the presentation to the City Council is this depreciation account. They have a vehicle depreciation account. Playground equipment depreciation needs to be refurbished and replaced... Andrews: We talked about last year that we need to have our capital improvement fund is for acquisition, not for repair and we're eating up more and more of it with repair and retrofit. Jan mentioned it, I mentioned it. To me Pheasant Hill is the top one here. 23 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . Manders: Where is that? I just don't recall. Lash: Right off of Lake Lucy Road. Andrews: It's a piece of property that we purchased. I guess that to me makes it higher priority. We spent a lot of money to get it. Let's do something with it. Lash: Lake Lucy Road and Lake Lucy Lane I think. Manders: Yeah, I got you. Okay. Lash: Everything else is really very. Andrews: Pretty minor. Lash: Yeah, minimal. It's when you get at it. Hoffman: Between Chan Hills and North Lotus, where do you want to go first in a play expansion. We've got $25,000.00 total... Lash: I'd vote for North Lotus fIrst. . Roeser: I think you're getting more heat from Chan Hills though aren't you? Manders: I mean is there anything out at Chan Hills now? Lash: Yeah. What do they have, Phase 1 and a basketball court and a ballfIeld, don't they? Hoffman: Yep. Chan Hills playground has been in there for a long time and is not, the playground has been there for a long time. North Lotus was upgraded slightly last year. Andrews: Yeah, you put a swing up wasn't it? Yeah. Lash: Well what if we were to work on the skating rink at North Lotus and the playground at Chanhassen Hills and then play area, go back to North Lotus and do the play area after Chan Hills is done. Kind of split that job into two. Roeser: That makes sense. Hoffman: Okay. 24 . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . Manders: I guess I just have one question that pertains to a letter in the packet about Power Hills in terms of the park facilities there. What this letter was referring to was access to some type of a basketball hoop or something. Is that possible or is that just not even reasonable? Hoffman: We talked about putting hoops on the parking lot. We can do that. The commission should take a look. Again, if they'd like to consider that because...$1,500.00, $1,000.00 you could put that in there. The flat area where the tennis court was to be, and that's kind of isolated by itself. The access...putting a basketball court there, you could do that. Lash: When we skipped the tennis court idea I know it had to do with the new idea and all of that but we did kick around some different ideas of something to put up there. I just don't remember right off hand what. Hoffman: Park shelter. That was about it. Lash: That was it? . Hoffman: Yeah. Lash: How about in-line skating? Roeser: We've got the trail for in-line skating. Andrews: For good in-line skating you need either a large surface or a good trail and that's what you look for. I mean that's the best. Really to me the favorite is good trails but. Hoffman: You could do in-line skating on the basketball court. Today to get... Andrews: Yeah, if you made a specific in-line skating you're going to attract people from all over to once the word gets out. Lash: I guess I'd want to look at that park plan before I'd want to stick a basketball court up there just to see if, I was thinking we had a basketball court already. I guess we didn't? Andrews: We talked about it on the parking lot and decided that was just not safe. Lash: Dh yeah, you said we can't do that. We talked about that. I'd rather look, before we . 25 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 just, I think if they want one that's fine and we can probably scrounge up the money to do it but I'd want to look at the plan before I'd just plunk it in. Andrews: Would this flat area that you mentioned, Todd would that be as far as security for, not for small tots but as far as younger kids, would it be visible and safe so the "riff raff' couldn't snatch any kids there or bother any kids? Hoffman: If you've ever been to the park, you could see there's... Andrews: Okay. Does this need a motion or is this enough direction for you to work with here? Hoffman: Enough direction. ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENT A TIONS: STOCKDALE PROPERTY. Hoffman: I keep putting that on the agenda and it keeps bringing Dave out. Not my intentions but obviously Dave would like to keep up to date as well on what the city's thoughts...somewhere in the neighborhood of 6 acres of property...So that's about all I have. Letter of December 13th was included in your packet. Letter to Jim Walston. City Attorney's office from Mr. Stockdale. It references a Mr. Scott Miller who represents Mr. Stockdale. I spoke with Scott Miller this past week and really in our conversation both parties stand prepared to make final arrangements or at least discuss final arrangements about the property that should potentially be occurring over the next couple of weeks. I spoke to Jim Walston today. He is redrafting the original purchase agreement presented by the City to address these issues and then we'll take it from there. Present those back to Mr. Miller and Mr. Stockdale. We can go over those with the commission and then Dave, you would like to ask some questions as well. The sale of the property must be in conjunction with the sale of the development of the...That probably land acquisition there would take place through an agreement between Mr. Stockdale and Lundgren Bros Development. I put calls into Terry Forbord this week and when I get an updated feeling from their position. I'm not sure, have they talked directly with you? David Stockdale: We traded phone calls today. That's where we got. Hoffman: So every time the phone calls get updated, then the phone calls...take place. As a part of the Johnson/Dolejsi/furner and Song plat, as you recall. The updated or new addition to those site plans, those plats in our door and not to anyone's surprise they included a ghost plat of how that back part of the Stockdale property could be developed into houses as they've indicated that before...How the city can make that contingent upon our approval, we 26 . . . . . . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 still haven't totally worked that out. We could make our purchase agreement contingent upon...it's a very difficult line to cross. We cannot represent Mr. Stockdale to Lundgren. We cannot represent Lundgren's position to Mr. Stockdale. We have to be in communication but we can't be... Lash: So we're just basically waiting for that deal to come through before this deal can go through? Hoffman: Well, yeah we want to. Andrews: It sounds like it needs to be simultaneous. A three party arrangement Hoffman: Could be. Or else at least we could sign our purchase agreement contingent upon...happens in the next two weeks or month. The...present terms obviously are we presented our position to Mr. Stockdale of $24,000.00 per acre and that's what the city has offered to pay and we have not received a counter offer. Identification of said property, specifically the north and west boundary alignments. As I related to Mr. Miller, the north boundary is adjacent to Mr. Stockdale's home and we don't have a problem moving that line one way or the other. Dave and I have talked about that. There's some buffering there. The property which would be park includes some trees which we would have in the plan to donate and to remove so those trees would be in this buffer as well. The west line needs to fluctuate somewhat because the city wants to acquire approximately 6.2 acres but at the same time we didn't want to push that line so far west that it infringes on what could be developed. It just so happens that there is a fairly nice break in there. Drainageway if you will at the bottom of the hill which would be back yards of homes. It comes down and really hits at the bottom of the hill where the park would be coming in at that point. Lash: Did you say we're getting 6.2 acres? Is that what the agreement is for? ... And then where are the other acres coming? Hoffman: The other acres would be the main portion of Mr. Stockdale's property which would be sold to a separate party. So the park is 6.2 acres. It originally started at about 5 but then when...identified the location for a well house or pump, so we want to add about another acre so we could buffer that. Modification of environmental warranties. The environmental warranties included...were very stringent. Mr. Walston has identified at least the representative meeting less than those warranties. It's been Mr. Miller's position that they would like to state that they are not aware of any environmental problems or did not create environmental problems on that property and that seems acceptable to our attorneys. Payment of pending and levied assessments. Again, this would be a negotiable item. Certainly if we acquire property which has some pending assessments on it, we could assume those...purchase 27 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . agreement you could say those are the liability of the seller. Temporary and permanent ingress and egress. Dave, that was in regard to? Dave Stockdale: It's been a while. I'm trying to refresh my memory on that too. Hoffman: Ingress and egress is not a problem so usually that's in regard to construction. We did talk about some easements for utility lines. Dave would hook his household up to city sewer and water which is...has a direct correlation to item number 4. Pending and levied assessments. Our agreement was that we would run the water line through our property to his property line and he would hook up from there...So hopefully Mr. Walston and Mr. Miller are standing....facilitate this thing and...Dave, did you have anything to say? Dave Stockdale: My name's Dave Stockdale, Galpin Boulevard. It's been kind of a long time since we've had conversation and I think probably the biggest reason is the attorneys. Just the purchase agreement's...and some of the things that I, from a land person's point of view looked at...specifically the environmental warranties was probably the most complex part of this dance between dealing with the city and dealing with Lundgren Bros and trying to bring together...and that's a real complex issue. It's a very balancing act. Obviously if I sold out right to the city and I had a purchase agreement with Lundgren Bras that didn't come to fruition, I'd have...so it's real critical that...so you guys can allocate where your park is going to be. And that's...new experience for me. It's not as a straight forward process but we're still looking. . Andrews: Mr. Stockdale, I'd want to again thank you for your effort here and cooperation. This is something that I've not seen from anybody else as a private citizen in our city for many, many years. Dave Stockdale: It works good at a certain level but a lot of it has to do with what happens with the back half. Andrews: Sure, I understand that and I understand it's a complex problem that you're going to a lot of effort. And it benefits the city and I'm not an elected city, or an official city official so to speak but as a citizen I certainly appreciate what you're doing very much. Dave Stockdale: We'll see if it works out. Andrews: I hope it does. It may not but I hope it does. Dave Stockdale: ...real straight forward. Anyone on the commission want to buy it all? 28 . . . . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 Hoffman: Thanks Dave. FIELD RESERVATION POLICY. Jerry Ruegemer presented the staff report on this item. Andrews: I'd like to add a couple names there as examples just so they don't come back as defined as non-local groups. Or at least have it come up for discussion now as to how they might be treated. One would be Tonka United Soccer which has a number of Chanhassen only teams. Would they be considered local youth organizations or would they be considered non-local or how would that be? Ruegemer: That would be based on residency. Andrews: I mean my intent is not that we would offer Minnetonka resident teams priority, similar to our own residents but just that there are a large number of teams that participate that are completely Chanhassen resident teams. Hoffman: That potentially could be one clarification-in the distribution of facilities percentile ranking. Do you feel it should be the entire organization so you take Tonka United's entire membership or do you take the individual teams? Andrews: Individual teams. Lash: That was my question too. I wrote that on there. Team or group because there's a big difference and my understanding from our last meeting was that it was team. Andrews: Team. That's right. That's exactly right and boy, we certainly don't want to take the whole organization. I predict that the squeeze for soccer space is going to be unbelievable. It's going to be just like ballfields. We're going to have people fighting for practice space and game space so. Lash: I have a question about number 1. When it says all directly related city of Chanhassen activities. Is that the adult softball leagues or where do they fall? Ruegemer: Excuse me? Lash: Is that for the adult softball leagues? Are they number one? Ruegemer: Well that certainly would be a part of that, right. 29 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . Lash: Okay, so they would have, so all of the adult teams would have fIrst dibs before the youth ? Ruegemer: Well to a certain degree, I would certainly be sensitive in that area. I'm already planning on giving up some time already for this upcoming year and even made some changes on Thursday night to open up some facilities. So if you're concerned about the adults taking everything and not...that will not happen. Lash: Well no, I wouldn't expect that you would do that but if it's down on paper, on paper that the adults get fIrst dibs over kids and if adults start getting turned down and they want to see how this priority ranking works and we show them the paper and they come back to us and say, right there. It says we're supposed to have fIrst dibs over kids. Andrews: It's a good point because somebody will come back. Somebody will get a hold of this thing and come back and say you're not following your procedures. Lash: I don't have an answer for how to do that but. Berg: Yeah, now we have a problem and we don't know the answer. Hoffman: Youth and adults, whether they're sponsored by us or a civic organization should... . and then it becomes diffIcult... Lash: What if it's just city offered programs? Because don't you consider these other things to fall under city offered even if it is CAA or softball? So if you just combine those two together. Hoffman: We don't hold our programs to a higher standard simple because we're facilitating it. It's going to get put in the mix. The Athletic Association is a city service...All the associations are. Lash: And just knowing the way the people can get real cagey about once things are down on paper, it takes one season for them to start fIguring out the loopholes in the system. So then are we going to have to worry about or will it come back to us that the organizations will start within their organization jockeying their players around so where they normally half of their teams wouldn't be able to play here at all, will they start spreading out their Chanhassen residents to get them on all the different teams so that all the teams get to have access to the fields? Andrews: Then you have that distribution of facilities kick in down below. So if you get too 30 . . . . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 diluted, then you lose priority that way. Hoffman: The bigger issue to worry about is misrepresentation and what percentage is Chanhassen residents. Lash: We'll have to have blood tests. Berg: With the distribution of facilities, with the percentages, do we want to be concerned at all about numbers besides percentages? If 10 people want to use the field and 9 of them are Chanhassen residents, we've got a whomping 90% but if another group of 20 has 15 people from Chanhassen, that's only 75%. Are we at all concerned about servicing numbers here or are we just going to go with a straight percentage? Because people wi11100k at that as a loophole too I think. (There was a tape change at this point in the discussion.) Hoffman: ...Chanhassen, you should have top priority... Lash: So if we had a team of 15, 2 people could be not residents and they'd still fall. Andrews: Yeah. 3. Lash: That's okay. Andrews: That's okay. Hoffman: We handle that one too. Did we eliminate there are going to be 5 priorities up there and, however special events... Lash: So many we should say city sponsored special events number one. Then combine the other two. Roeser: Yeah, then put the next two together somehow. Andrews: And instead of saying local youth organizations, you might want to say organizations that serve our local youth. Because otherwise you could be potentially excluding an entity that's located outside of our city that serves our city. Lash: Well how about when you say athletic events, are you talking about like tournaments? 31 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . If you schedule a 4 day tournament or something? Okay and that would preclude anyone too. So number one should be that. It's just that number 2 should also be city sponsored adult and youth opportunities or whatever. Local adult and local youth. Andrews: Organizations that serve our local youth. Lash: And local adults. Berg: I don't want anything that implies that adults have priority over the kids for the use of the field. Ruegemer: If that came through, that wasn't my intent in this. Lash: It didn't but I didn't know where adult... Berg: No, I don't think it did but somebody else is going to have it come through that way. Lash: So if we put adult and youth both as number two, and then everything else there. Manders: How does that work? Is it first come, first serve or how you address adult youth? . Utilization. Hoffman: Based on the number of teams and the size of the organization. Lash: Did we talk to the CAA anymore about, you know they made that generous offer about helping to fund or install or whatever another set of lights for Lake Ann? Are we looking into that as a solution to getting another field for another late game? Ruegemer: ...out of the CIP budget maybe. I think that's what he was referring to as far as providing volunteers and some free labor. Lash: So how much would just the lights cost then if we didn't have to have the labor? Hoffman: Their labor would entail... Roeser: Yeah, we couldn't have them throwing up poles and. Hoffman: Yeah... Lash: Never mind. 32 . . . . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 Hoffman: However the Lions and the Legion are courting us in that regard. Andrews: They have money. Hoffman: Yeah. We've been waiting the results of the fmal budget tally out at the elementary school site to see what's not funded and then we will get some additional correspondence back from both the Lion's Club and Legion... Ruegemer: Okay, we can move on. Are there any other questions regarding the distribution or any more comments about the priorities? Lash: I just had a quick question as to that whole procedure. If you're the coach of a Little League team and you want to get your kids together to practice some night, what do you do? Call you? Ruegemer: I would prefer thaL.once we get through this whole process, that the teams go to like a facility coordinator maybe through an association. That'd be a lot easier from my aspect. Dealing with one person from each organization versus having 64 kids or so call me up. It's hard to keep track for me and that's what I'm going to do. Indicate that as far as the way I'd like... Andrews: Send one to Don Kelly. Tonka United Soccer. Maybe just referencing the Chanhassen teams. That they would have one person contact you. In the past it's been strictly a free for all. Whoever knows who to call fIrst. Lash: I had a quick question about the Stockdale thing, just to get off the track again. Where's the money coming from for that? Hoffman: The money would be from the park acquisition fund. It currently is slated. that would be $50,000.00...purchase and then $50,000.00 for the following two years. So in fact it would take a budget amendment by City Council recommended by the Park and Recreation Commission to dip into your fund. Lash: To come out of our fund that we just looked at? Hoffman: Well no. To dip into your reserves. Lash: Oh, okay. Andrews: Okay, anything else you need for item 9 Jerry? 33 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . Ruegemer: Just thaL.this would be...is pretty straight forward. If there's any comments or concern about that...pretty straight forward. Cancellation procedures...based on different cities and what they have done with the Minneapolis School District as far as the school facilities and that type of thing so I think it's straight forward...questions or comments. And at the very end just to, you know our liability waiver that we... Andrews: Okay, let's move on if we're ready to do so. ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENT A TIONS: A. BANDIMERE PARK PROPERTY. Andrews: Todd, you prepared a response to our request to get information about a potential consideration of sale. Todd Hoffman presented the staff report on this item. Andrews: Have you had any types of feelers or response from any other city officials about this concept? Hoffman: Well it's been discussed as a second go around and the city officials...staff . members the feeling is that the margins, when you start to throw in the legal costs and those type of things, they're considered as small. As the city goes out and intends to look for property elsewhere, there's not a whole heck of a lot out there unless you identified...property specifically for this purpose and you want good access and you want flat property, you're going to pay top dollar. So it's not as if you're going to buy a 50 acre parcel and you're going to take everything along with it. The wetlands and bad access and those type of things. That's what you're trying to get rid of. So who knows what we'd get for Bandimere... Roeser: Why did we decide, what made us think we should sell it in the fIrst place? I guess I forgot or I don't remember why we. Andrews: There's a couple issues. One is that we've never been able to fund any development of the property because we don't have any money. The second is that in some ways my opinion, I think the access is difficult to Bandimere. I think those are the two main issues. Like Todd said, they're the two. It's a potential opportunity where perhaps we could acquire a piece of property of nearly equal size that might be better for our needs and put money in our pockets at the same time. Lash: Another potential problem or, it's been worked around I guess but I don't look at it as 34 . . . . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 being an asset to the property, is the pipeline goes right under it and we have to work around that because you can only grade and have so much. Roeser: But doesn't that also make it more difficult to sell to somebody who wants to build houses on it? If you're going to sell it to somebody, they're going to know about the pipeline too. Lash: Well we didn't. Roeser: And I don't consider it that bad a piece of property. I don't consider the access that, that detrimental to that property. I think we'd be making, I don't know if we'd be making a mistake but I really don't, I think we should really look at that before we start looking around to sell it. And if we don't have anything in mind to buy. Lash: Before we barely even finish buying that piece, we were already looking at it as being too small and how were we going to be able to acquire, how many more acres did we want to get to the north? And what did we get from Lundgren, 5? That brought it up to 35? Hoffman: 37. Lash: 37. So, and I don't think that was as many acres as what we wanted to get to start with and now we know we'll never be able to get any more acreage around it because it would be surrounded. Roeser: Yeah, will we be able to get any acreage down in that area at all? And this is what you want is a park in that area, isn't it? Lash: Were you here 2 weeks ago? Roeser: I think so yeah. Yeah. Lash: When we were looking at some different areas. Roeser: Yeah. Lash: I don't even want to, you know the more we talk about that kind of stuff, the more information that gets out that we could possibly have an interest and then I think sometimes. Hoffman: It has to happen though Jan. 35 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . Andrews: I guess I think like Janet that it sounds like a good idea but when you start thinking about all the things that have to happen to make it work, boy it seems like the odds are stacked against us. You have to sell it. You have to pay the realtor fees and the attorney fees. You have to fmd a willing seller of another piece of property and close all that and I think that's going to consume a lot of the advantage. I just know what a hassle that is. Lash: I guess I wouldn't want to just give it up because we think it's going to be a hassle. I think it's worth continuing to pursue. I don't think it's worth getting big hopes up or investing huge amounts of time and energy but I'd be interested in getting feelers out on the two specific sites that we were looking at that we thought would make nice additions and find out if it wouldn't be too difficult to work out some kind of deals with those. I still would be interested in trying to pursue it and try to get it to work out. Roeser: And just go at it very easily or very slowly, is that what we're talking about? Andrews: Yeah, I guess I would agree that we could explore it to that point. Meger: What kind of anticipated feedback have we received from residents in that area? I'm unaware of the order in which something developed in that area but again, looking at what we talked about earlier, if there are residents that bought in that area with the thought that there would be a park developed in that area, I guess if it was me I'd be pretty disappointed if all . of a sudden I was laying one out for development and I thought my property, thinking a park. Lash: I don't know that there was any, that there's been much of any building going on around there. It was a pretty isolated site with the street running right behind it and then houses there and they were all there... And actually there was some concern, as you can imagine, from the existing residents about. Meger: About the park going in. Andrews: Lights. Lash: Traffic and ballfields and all the normal concerns. Roeser: Well somebody had a complete lighting system in there bigger than the Metrodome, from one of letters we got. Andrews: I agree with Jan. I'd like to at least make a feeler to the two properties that we looked at that night we had the maps on the floor and. 36 . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . Lash: Well and the one property is already there. There's already something generating with that so. Hoffman: ...tomorrow morning. The engineering, planning staff, park staff reviewing the application. In fact you'll be reviewing the application and the use of the westerly portion of the property. Roeser: Is that Halla? Lash: Yeah. And when did they, so they're only bringing in the west part? Hoffman: Correct. Lash: And do you know what their future plans are for the east part? Hoffman: No, but they are consuming the eligibility to build it as rural development with intensifying that that be...so their hands would be tied for any development... Andrews: So they are deteriorating the current property value? . Hoffman: Yeah, you could say that. Andrews: It could be an opportunity in other words. An economic opportunity. Lash: I look at that as being an opportunity. Manders: It'd be a good site too. Andrews: It'd flat. It'd be nice to pick the trees off there too. Roeser: I'm sure we get the trees free. Andrews: Do you have enough direction on this one Todd? Hoffman: Yep. Andrews: Okay, let's move on. c. HIGHWAY 101 TRAa UPDATE. . 37 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . Andrews: Can I make a comment on this? I was at the Council meeting last night. I got a little upset towards the end of that meeting when the Mayor stated that this is a dead issue and what I meant to say was that, I was in full agreement. It was a dead issue. That it will be an issue when somebody is dead and the Mayor misinterpreted that I was challenging that he had the right to speak, say that it was a dead issue in his own mind. It wasn't the point I was trying to make. So there are still a lot of people that think there are going to be bulldozers out there in the spring. I mean I've had people call me and say, when are they going to start? It's just amazing the amount of misinformation that's been created by people just talking back and forth so, there are going to be some people wondering what's happening. And it appears that nothing's going to happen in the near term. That's really about it too. Roeser: It's stalled. Andrews: One of the ideas I had last night when I went home later after the meeting was, I asked my wife, I said what would you think if instead of trying to build this thing all the way from down by, I forget the name of the street there. The south terminus. Where the property lines are tight and the road is close. What would you think of the idea if this trail was built only from Kurvers Point north to Pleasant View where there's, in most places, adequate right- of-way to build it. And if not adequate right-of-way, a very low priority that the road would ever be expanded to the point where it would destroy the existing trail. And she thought that . was kind of a good idea and I kind of do too. I think that would be much more doable. It still would provide a fairly meaningful enhancement to the people that are landlocked. There's basically two neighborhoods that are just about completely landlocked. It's Sandy Hook and Lotus View. There's just no way in or out of those neighborhoods without getting on that road and it's really dangerous. They both have poor visibility access to the road so anyway. Hoffman: Did you understand my description on the tax increment issue? It's not included in the pot but it's...now that we have one other potential project, and really two other potential projects being the road upgrade and the construction of the trail to add to the list of projects which would likely be completed with tax increment financing. Lash: When you're talking about the road upgrade, is that on TH 10 1 ? Hoffman: Correct, TH 101 north. Lash: We just did a whole bunch of work there. Now what does it need? Hoffman: They did the intersection. Now you need to pick it up from the intersection and 38 . . . . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 go north. Andrews: Which there's no current plan to do. Hoffman: Correct. It's currently a rural section. Has ditches so you want to take the ditches out and widen the lanes. Improve the turning... Lash: But if there's no plans to do it, then how is it a high priority? Hoffman: It's a high priority to plan. It's a high priority... Lash: It's a high priority to plan but not to do? ...planning it even though we know we're never going to do it. Andrews: I was at a meeting where we had MnDot, Carver County, Hennepin County, Eden Prairie and Chanhassen all at one meeting about this road and when somebody asked the question, well who's going to build it. Everybody pointed and nobody wants it so. I talked to Councilman Senn too about this tax increment because I heard about that. I thought geez, this is it. This is our pot of gold. We're going to have money and he said there's already enough projects already planned that there's virtually no chance of any money coming out of that but it's given us a glimmer, a potential possibility. It could, that's right so it's better than before. Lash: I thought usually trails were done. Roeser: I think we just have to keep pounding them and talking about it. Andrews: That's right. Keep it up in front. D. ARTS GRANT. METROPOLITAN REGIONAL ARTS COUNCIL. Lemme: Chairman and Commissioners. I just wanted to let you know about an arts grant that was received and it's been deposited in the city checking account I guess for use this summer to be offering an arts program for youth. We're still in the early stages of planning the program. We had to do some planning before we applied for the grant but as far as some of the details, we've not gotten down to that yet...good opportunity to offer some art programs, drama in particular to the youth in the area. ...our plan would be to use the elementary school since it's so close to City Hall...so we're not sure where this is going to be yet but it's going to be somewhere. 39 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . E. SENIOR LINKAGE LINE. Lemme: Another item informational. ...but was not sure whether or not the commission was aware of Senior Linkage Line...being operated out of the Senior Center. It has been since this last summer and Kitty Sitter...coordinator of that program. And if you have any questions, I'd be willing to address those at this time. Manders: I have to admit that I wasn't familiar with this program. Lemme: Information or referrals for seniors...because there are so many things out there. People don't know where to turn to or who to call fIrst and they're getting, and seniors get very frustrated with the red tape. Even an opportunity to call the senior center, if they don't get the right line in they'll hang up you know rather than try to call back. So this piece really is just to try to give people one location to cal1...fmd the information. Return their call. Maybe follow up with referrals and keep an updated computer system. Places of everything from nursing homes to where they can get legal assistance. Those kinds of things. Lash: I think that's great. One of the big...is for family members to be able to call. When you're going through that for the first time, you have no idea who to call to get help to look for... You don't know what's available and. . Andrews: Do you know, is there such a thing as a computer bulletin board for seniors? Lemme: You mean as far as employment? Andrews: Referrals. Referrals to the various services just like what we're doing on the phone. It's becoming such a big thing with everybody. Computers and modems and using that as a method to communicate. Maybe look toward the future. Next year, year after as to that's an area of expansion for a program like this. Lemme: All the information is on a computer. Andrews: Okay but I mean put it on a computer where people could call in and pull it up off a bulletin board. Just an idea. ...that's where technology is going. Lemme: Sure. Yeah, who knows where... Andrews: But this program looks like it's really being used. Good program. Lemme: Well we want you to be involved more by getting the information out, especially to 40 . . . . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 the western part of the county... Andrews: Very good. Any other comments? F. 1994 PICNIC FEES. Ruegemer: This went back to the December and just information collected from the December meeting when the Park and Recreation Commission wanted to indicate different group rates for residents versus business...and businesses not from Chanhassen. What I illustrated on the next couple of pages here was several options...That's for the Park and Recreation Commission's consideration and we had talked about, it's staffs recommendation to keep the residents' rates I guess the same. The resident single family or not single family but single group rate the same and then change the business rate. And then we've got the Park and Recreation Commission would like to see a higher rate assessed to businesses both from Chanhassen and non-Chanhassen...and we can redo those in a minute. And then also having these different percentage rates, the Park and Recreation Commission also discussed then about a voucher and the 50% rule for residents as a result of the new fee structure. So that will be enforced and the Commission...Before we get to the...we also have another issue to resolve as far as the...1ocal church groups. Last year we did have an incident where a church group felt it was unfair that they were assessed the $200.00 refundable damage deposit in that case and with the specific...that was unfair and I guess I would like the Park and Recreation Commission to review the statement and then come up with a policy. You know whether, do we require local church groups or church groups for that matter to require them paying a damage deposit type of a. Andrews: That's what our rule is. Roeser: That's right I would say maintain it. Berg: You make one exception, you have to make a second. Lash: I don't understand at all what the cost is of writing a check and voiding it. I can't imagine. Tell them to give you $200.00 cash and then give it back to them. Andrews: We took care of that item. Ruegemer: Okay. Then let's just put in...recommendation is to accept then a percentage or a percent increase that you feel is fair to be assessed. Andrews: I think 30% because that's approximately what they can deduct on their, the 41 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . advantage they have on deductions for business expenses. Lash: I don't have a problem with raising these fees. We don't have a problem I don't think with booking it so why not, everything else goes up. Why not, we know we're going to book them anyway. We don't have to be greedy about it but to round things off a little bit if...to $30.00 for residents and maybe $90.00 for non-residents and I think businesses should be more than just plain residents to start with. Whether they're local or not local, I think a business should pay more. Hoffman: That's what we were discussing. Lash: Yeah. So I would look at a Chan business. If a resident can rent it for $30.00, I think a business should rent it for. Andrews: 30% more. Hoffman: At least. Lash: At least. I was going to say $75.00. Hoffman: It's the difference between one of us calling for our family reunion and holding . your company picnic there. A company makes a big investment in their company picnic. Andrews: Alright, let's go for it. Let's go 40 and see what happens. Ruegemer: You want to go 40 across the board? Andrews: For business. Ruegemer: So a group resident, you want it for $30.00 and then $90.00? Manders: I don't follow what you're getting at here. Lash: If you look at Lake Ann Lakeside Jim.. Before it was $27.00 and $80.00. So if we bumped the resident to $30.00. I mean $3.00, it's a round number. Makes it $30.00 and non-resident, I don't have a problem with raising them 10% is $8.00 and then go up a little bit more to $90.00. Andrews: I agree. 42 . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . Lash: And then for businesses, if you look under Lake Ann Parkview, or if you look at the picnic shelter. I looked at the picnic shelter. I'd be willing to go $90.00 for residents and $200.00 for non-residents and businesses should be. Andrews: Plus 40. Just across the board. Just keep it simple. Ruegemer: Another question then. Would that $112.00 is somewhat of an odd number. Do you want to raise that to $115.00? Roeser: Yeah, I like round numbers. Round up. Lash: $115.00 is it's a resident business and how much if it's a non-resident business then? Andrews: It's just 40% up of the base fee and round it out. Lash: But that's not, if you look at what the difference is between a person resident and a non person resident, it's 3 times. Andrews: That's okay. . Lash: And then to have the businesses not be somewhat the same proportion? I mean I know it can't be $600.00 but if a business, a resident, a local business is $115.00, I think that a non-resident business should be proportionately more. Andrews: We're going to take the non-resident rate and multiply it times 40% so we're just going to up everything 40% for business. Lash: 259? Andrews: Where is it? Yeah. Lash: 260. Andrews: Yeah. Lash: Yeah, okay. Does that sound just astronomical to you guys? Andrews: Not for that facility. Hoffman: The only one I would question of the whole thing is a non-resident calls up for a . 43 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . family reunion and they pay $90.00 where a resident pays $30.00. That's the cost of doing business. Lash: That's the cost of paying taxes. Andrews: We've got facilities that we know are going to be used... (There was a tape change at this point in the discussion.) COMMISSION MEMBER PRESENTATIONS: Meger: ...designate what the money will be used for and so that's I guess what I would ask. Is as we're reviewing things, if we can think of something that costs around the $500.00 that can be pinpointed and certainly justified. Lash: ...maybe there'd be an obvious connection. Meger: Aetna. I think Casualty Aetna has plans. . Lash: Getting playground equipment into compliance. Meger: Yes, they would. Very much be supportive of that. Especially that compliance piece as well as ADA requirements. We do a lot of talking about that. Andrews: Something with the seniors. Meger: Yeah. Andrews: Great. Fabulous. Any other presentations? ADMINISTRATIVE PACKET. Andrews: Any highlights there? Hoffman: No highlights in the packet. I have a couple of minor additions for your consideration. Andrews: And those are? 44 . . . . Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 Hoffman: Letter from the...6547 Gray Fox Curve. I think Mr. Kenny's concern originates from the use of the access off of North Lotus Lake park to the lake in the winter time by snowmobiles. That's prompted him to call. In regard to your request...city some years back regarding access to the lake during the summer. The issue here is something of that nature. I think everyone, the whole community is benefitting from access during the winter. It's his position that the neighborhood should at least be able to benefit during the summer. Andrews: That's a pretty boggy area, if I remember correctly. I've stomped around there a couple times. Close down by the lake. That would be a very difficult area to work. Also, if you have a pier, we have to provide ADA access, which means we'd have to provide a road. Roeser: How about wheelchair access? Andrews: That's what ADA is, yeah. So that would all be part of the project. I think there's no way. Hoffman: I received the impression that his call was really about snowmobiles and that he was somewhat disgruntled and that snowmobiles were mowing all the cattails. So I said let's address that issue. We'll get out there and sign it. There's a city ordinance which do not allow...and if you'd like to pursue the issue of an access with the commission, you can do so but based on number one, an access and the remoteness of the site. And number two, the lake... Andrews: Make sure that you explain the ADA issue is a major issue for any kind of project like that. Any other? Hoffman: No. Andrews: I was just looking at the calendar. If we're looking at our usual second Tuesday meeting, that would be February 8th. I will be doing some independent study of recreational opportunities at Winter Park that weekend so, that week so Jan you'll have to. Lash: Well these are just more informal work sessions. Andrews: They're work sessions, yeah. I won't be here for that. Anything else? Hoffman: February Festival's corning along nicely. Again we have the Park Commission down as...and we've also requested additional volunteers from the citizens... Meger: When they listed all those prizes on there, they seemed to correspond a lot of them with the fishing contest. Is that correct? So those prizes that are for the fishing contest and 45 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - January 25, 1994 . then there's the prize board as well similar to the 4th of July prize board? Hoffman: You need to buy a ticket to be in the prize board. The prize drawings are all part of the fishing contest. So if you catch a big fish you win a prize. If you have a ticket to the fishing contest you're also eligible for the door prize. So you could come down and buy a ticket for $4.00 or a ticket for your kid for $2.00 and be in the door prize and not fish. We do not have a prize board similar to the one on the 4th of July. Lash: And then, I know I asked you about this before but I forget. The snow sculpture judging. How are you going to do that again? ...some of us work. Lemme: If you wanted to drive by in the morning or something. Lash: Next time let's figure out a different way of doing that. Roeser: Because you want to judge it, is that what you're saying? Lash: Yeah. I think that would be a fun thing to do. I mean I really would like to do that. Hoffman: You can go around at night can't you? . Lash: Well it's dark then. Hoffman: They don't have to be present. We said if you're not there, the judging's independent so if you would like to arrange some other time for the judging... Lash: Wait a minute, what day is it? The 16th? Lemme: No, it's the 10th... Andrews: Any other business? If not, let's have a motion to adjourn. Berg moved, Meger seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in favor and the motion carried. The meeting was adjourned. Submitted by Todd Hoffman Park and Recreation Coordinator Prepared by Nann Opheim 46 . . . . ;) CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739 MEMORANDUM TO: Park and Recreation Commission Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation supervisor~) k, February 18, 1994 U. FROM: DATE: SUBJ: Using Minnewashta Heights Park for Soccer Practice Chuck Rienstra, the Vice President of Operations for Tonka United Soccer Association will be in attendance at your meeting next Tuesday. Mr. Rienstra would like to hold practice 4 days a week at Minnewashta Heights Park. Tonka United acknowledges that maintenance will be involved with the field and stated their club would paint and stripe the field as needed, leaving only grass mowing to park maintenance. Mr. Rienstra was informed of the Park and Recreation Commission's policy of not scheduling organized activities and practices in neighborhood parks. However, Mr. Rienstra does live near the park and feels the park is currently under utilized. , . . I- Z <( u :J C- o.. <( . ~ ~ W I- - (I) . PRC DATE: Feb. 22, 1994 3 CITY OF CHANHASSEN CC DATE: HOFFMAN:k STAFF REPORT PROPOSAL: Preliminary Plat to Subdivide 19.7 acres into 26 Single Family Lots on Property zoned RSF, Minnewashta Landings LOCATION: Southwest corner of the intersection of Highway 7 and Minnewashta Parkway APPLICANT: Kenneth Durr 4830 Westgate Road Minnetonka, MN 55345 PRESENT ZONING: RSF, Single Family Residential ADJACENT ZONING AND LAND USE: N . RSF, Highway 7 S - Lake Minnewashta E - RSF W - RSF, Minnewashta Parkway COMPREHENSIVE PLAN: This site lies within the neighborhood park service areas of Cathcart Park and Minnewashta Heights Park. However, Highway 7 is a significant barrier to access of these parks by future residents. The proposed "Kings Road" Park would provide a better option for neighborhood park services. The Minnewashta Landings property has not been considered for park purposes by any commission, council, or staff member that I am aware, primarily due to its extreme northerly location on the Parkway. Minnewashta Landings February 22, 1994 Page 2 COMPREHENSIVE TRAIL PLAN: The Comprehensive Trail Plan identifies the Minnewashta Parkway trail which lies along the westerly border of the site in this location. The trail is on the west side of the Parkway, opposite the site. A trail corridor along Highway 7 has been identified as an addition to the trail plan and can be accommodated within the future expanded right-of-way of the highway. RECOMMENDATION It is recommended that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend the City Council accept full park and trail dedication fees in lieu of parkland dedication or trail development. Said fees to be collected per City Code, Chapter 18, Section 18-79(P): One-third of the park and trail cash contribution shall be paid contemporaneously with the city's approval of the subdivision. The balance, calculated as follows, shall be paid at the time building permits are issued: rate in effect when a building permit is issued minus the amount previously paid. . . . . I ~ . . . . . . . ", . SITE City Of Chanha~ MinDe$ota- .---- .--~/ Park Deficiency Areas ~ E3 Existing Parks and Service Areas 2000 MUSA Line 1 ,. , b:. i - - - I ~ I -.- .. - ----. ~N. I I I I I - - II , - II II II - '- . I ~ -- --1 --I --I - I j I I I Walkway/Bikeway I I I.'-i -~ I ~ =-~ :-~j i ... ---1 5 aTY OF CHAtf-IASSEN Trail Plan . . . . Nature Trail Connection Points .-- ! I .-.-.....1 I -~ .e :"-=1 fl I ,. .- , T ~. - - - I --.J - -.. . .... - - ... - -1 ---j .,.. - .! 6 ""1" i -- f -- r--- 1 7 I I I , I Bas. - 1889 . 45 0__' "0..-,,- ~ . . . C ITV OF CHAHHASSEN '-I- 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739 MEMORANDUM TO: Park and Recreation Commission ~ FROM: Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director DATE: February 18, 1994 SUBJ: Resolution of Support; Hennepin County Golf Course The attached letter of inquiry was received from Dick Wilson, Director of Hopkins-Minnetonka Recreation Department on January 25, 1994. The letter explains the desire of the City of Minnetonka to construct a golf course on the former Oak Terrace Nursing Home property. The letter concludes by asking for your support of the Glen Lake Task Force recommendation to construct a public golf course and other complementary facilities on the Glen Lake property. ACTION The Commission can either approve this resolution or choose not to. . , HQPKINS . MINNETONKA RECREATION DEPARTMENT January 24, 1994 Mr. Todd Hoffman Chanhassen Parks & Recreation 690 Coulter Drive Chanhassen" Minnesota 55317 Dear Todd: The City of Minnetonka is asking for your support, and that of your Park and Recreation Board, on behalf of a possible golf course to be constructed on Hennepin County owned land in the City of Minnetonka. Specifically, the land is located east of Eden prairie Road and north of County Road 62 (Crosstown). The property is the area formerly occupied by the Oak Terrace Nursing Home. The majority of the buildings on the property have been demolished. It also abuts the Hennepin County Home School, a correctional facility for juvenile criminals. A Glen Lake Task Force was created by the Hennepin County Board in Fall, 1991 to review the long term utilization of this County Glen Lake Property. The future use of the property was seen as an issue since it was learned that the State would no longer be leasing the Oak Terrace Nursing Home as a State facility. The Glen Lake Task Force has looked at a variety of information pertaining to future need. that could be accommodated on the property. These have included various alternative golf course designs that would provide public recreational benefits. Additionally, the Task Force has reviewed a housing study for the Hennepin County Home School which has examined future space and program needs of that facility. The Task Force reviewed three golf course concepts. These included a nine hole golf course on the western portion of the property, an 18 hole course utilizing the east and west portions of the property, and an 18 hole course utilizing the east and west sides of the property in addition to 10.8 acres of county Home School "designated" property. The Task Force agreed that the western and southern (Eden Prairie) portions of the property should be utilized for golf course purposes, however, not all felt that utilization of the eastern portion of the property was appropriate. The Minnetonka City Council has adopted the attached resolution which endorses the basic Task Force recommendation. This resolution has been forwarded to the County Board for their deliberation of the Task Force recommendation. If the County Board adopts the recommendation, significant work will need to be done in examining design, administration, and financial aspects of a golf course. All of this information will need to be reviewed before further recommendations and decisions are made by the appropriate bodies. The adoption of this resolution does not bind cities to owning or operating a golf course. It may be that Hennepin Parks would be the appropriate operating agency. The Hennepin County Ways and Means Committee will consider this proposal at their February 10, 1994 meeting. Their recommendation will be referred to the Hennepin County Board. May we have your help by a resolution of support from your Park and Recreation Board? A sample is attached. Our Hennepin County residents will truly benefit by having this public recreation facility. Sincerely, RECEIVED . Recreation Department wL JiJ.f\: 2 ~ 1994 CITY OF CHANHA~St:.I\j Wilson, Director I , . . . RESOLUTION NO. RESOLUTION PERTAINING TO THE FUTURE USE OF THE GLEN LAKE HENNEPIN COUNTY PROPERTY BE IT RESOLVED by the Park and Recreation Board of the City of Minnesota, as follows: 1.01 Section 1. Backoround 1.02 1..03 1.04 1. OS 1. 06 1.07 1.08 On July 22, 1991, the Minnetonka City Council adopted a resolution requesting that the Hennepin County Board appoint a Task Force to make recommendations to the County Budgeting Task Force and County Board regarding the long term utilization of the County Glen Lake property. In August, 1991, the Hennepin County Board of Commissioners adopted a resolution establishing the Glen Lake Task Force and appointed the following members: two County Commissioners, elected off icials from the cities of Minnetonka and Eden Prairie, appropriate Hennepin County staff members, and two members of the Gatewood-Glen Lake Homeowners Association. The Task Force established two sub-committees to examine the reuse of the buildings and grounds of the Oak Terrace Nursing Home and to review the possibility for a golf course. The Hennepin County Home School Land Use Master Plan was completed in Spring, 1993 and concluded that some expansion of the Home School building and programs would be needed in the future and that a buffer be established around the Home School portion of the property. On July 2, 1993, the Task Force concluded that a golf course should be considered for a portion of the Glen Lake property and directed staff to explore alternative golf course concepts. On December 20, 1993, the Glen Lake Task Force discussed various golf course options and supported the idea of a golf course on all or part of the Glen Lake property not utilized by the Hennepin County Home School which respected the rights of the Home School clients. On January 10, 1994 the Minnetonka City Council endorsed the Glen Lake Task Force recommendation that the concept of a public golf course and other complementary uses such as a driving range are appropriate and compatible uses around and adjacent to the Hennepin Ccunty Home School on the Glen Lake property. On January 13, 1994, the Hopkins-Minnetonka Recreation Board voted to add its support to the Glen Lake Task Force's recommendation. If the concept of a golf course is studied further, additional information including design, financial aspects, and administration should be prepared for review by the Task Force, cities of Minnetonka and Eden Prairie, Hennepin County Budgeting task Force, and the Hennepin County Board. 2.01 Section 2. Board Action The Park and Recreation Board endorses the Glen Lake Task Force recommendation that the concept of a public golf course and other complementary uses such as a driving range are appropriate and compatible uses around and adjacent to the Hennepin County Home School on the Glen Lake property. Adopted by the Park and Recreation Board of the City of Minnesota, on this day of , 1994. , . C ITV OF CHANHASSEN s-~ - 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739 MEMORANDUM TO: Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director FROM: Dawn Lemme, Recreation Supervisor/Program Specialist 1)'7+ ' DATE: February 18, 1994 SUBJ: Senior Center Update The Chanhassen Senior Center has almost completed winter with monthly visits as follows: December - 373; January - 452; and February (so far) - 257. . A wide variety of activities have occurred since the fIrst of the year and we have enjoyed some new programs and senior center trips. Over 35 people participated in the Defensive Driving Course, a cribbage tournament was held, Mens and Womens Clubs continue to grow, and trips were taken to Bali Hi and Bell Museum. Other activities that took place were movie day, canning class, legal aid, tax assistance, crafts, a Scandinavian Night with supper and entertainment. The Senior Center is also being used by a Girl Scout Troop, the Quilt-a-Month Club, Knights of Columbus, and Park and Recreation Department youth craft classes, and Birthday Bonanzas. . ,'~.,..:.:~:i.<:;' /" -:'~,;-.e. January 24, 1994. Nation's Cities Weekly . y. Stop Pest Animal Uttering Sutherlin Enterprises has in- troduced two patented products to solve the problem of pest ani- mals (racoons, skunks, pos- swns) that invade trash cans and scatter trash in public parks. The "Critter. Lockout" fits 20 and 30 gallon galvanized trash cans and hinges the lid to the container to keep animals out. The "Critter Ridder" is a kit that converts a trash can into a harmless animal trap. Details: David Sutherlin, (813) 484- 4568; fax, (813) 488- 4760. . . - TRENDS JI,-'~ RESOURCES ...... Critter Ridder SUMMER JOB LISTINGS FOR CITY OF CHANHASSEN PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT 690 COULTER DRIVE CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 . PLAYGROUND DIRECTOR Plans, directs, and coordinates recreation activities associated with Summer Discovery Playground program for ages 4-11. Supervises playground leaders, all outings, and special events related to the playground program. (Approx. 35 hours/week) SKILLS: Strong leadership skills. Ability to plan, organize, and conduct recreation activities, ability to ~.2;:,en ise and work harmoniously with playground leaders, must inspire others, and show enth ~ ~la sm and understanding of children. Motivation, dependability, and creativity a must. Previou~ experience in recreation or teaching is preferred. STARTl?'G/E!\TIING DATES: Approximately June 6, 1994-August 12, 1994 SALARY RA~GE: $7.00-$7.50/hour . PLAYGROUND LEADER Leads recreational activities associated with Summer Discovery Playground program. Under the supervision of the playground director, helps plan activities such as crafts, games, and sports for children ages 4-11. (Approx. 30 hours/week) SKILLS: Enthusiastic, genuine interest in children, ability to lead activities and inspire sponsmanship, and work harmoniously with fellow employees. Dependability and motivation a must ST ARTNG/E]\TIING DATES: Approximately 1une 8, 1994-August S, 1994 SALARY RANGE: $5.50-$6.00/hour . TENNIS SPECIALIST . Plans, coordinates, and instructs a comprehensive tennis lesson program for youth and adults using curriculum guidelines of the United States Tennis Association. Also responsible for the coaching and coordination of Chanhassen's USTA Junior Tennis Team program. (Approx. 25-30 hours/week) SKILLS: Ability to effectively instruct, plan, and organize pre-beginner to intermediate levels of tennis. Must be enthusiastic and understanding of others, willing and able to handle various skill levels, age groups, and sizes of classes, and promote good sportsmanship techniques. Motivation and dependability a must. Previous experience preferred, but not required. STARTINGIE1\TIING DATES: Approximately June 9, 1994-August 12, 1994 SALARY RANGE: $7.50-$8.00/hour GATE ATTENDANT Responsible for supervision of park users, gate building, park facilities, and selling of parking permits. Opens and closes park gates, records daily attendance, and inspects water craft. SKILLS: Should possess strong people skills with an ability to communicate with the public. Capable of submitting required reports, and balancing daily cash receipts. Dependability and flexibility a must. . ST ARTr'\G'E~TDI;\lG DA ITS: Approximately May 7, 1994-September 5, 1994 SALARY RA~GE: $5.00-$6.00/hour CONCESSIONAIRE Responsibilities include coordinating rental agreements for boats and other recreation equipment, dispensing food and drink, operating a cash register, general upkeep of the concession building and taking daily inventories. SKILLS: Motivated and flexible individual with strong people skills. Able to deal with public effectively and professionally. Some physical work and lifting required. ST ARTINGIENDING DATES: Approximately May 20, 1994-September 11, 1994 SALARY RANGE: $5.50-$6.00/hour . The City of Chanhassen is an Equal Oportunity/Affumative Action Employer. For further information on any of the jobs listed, please call 612-937-1900. CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 (612)937-1900 MISSION STATEMENT The primary mission of the Park and Recreation Commission is to provide quality recreational opportunities for all citizens of Chanhassen in a fmancially responsible manner while preserving natural amenities. HISTORY OF THE CHANHASSEN PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT Formed in 1977 Fran Callahan -- First Park and Recreation Coordinator -- April 1, 1977 . 1977 Park and Recreation Budget Total 510.00 15,890.00 31,360.00 13.000.00 $60,760.00 Park and Recreation Commission Recreation Administration Park Maintenance Recreation Programs 1994 Park and Recreation Budget Park and Recreation Commission Recreation Administration Park Maintenance Recreation Programs Senior Center Self-Supporting Programs 1,740.00 47,875.00 208,700.00 129,650.00 25,405.00 79.790.00 $503,160.00 Total . PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSIONERS Jim Andrews, Chairperson Jan Lash, Vice-Chairperson Fred Berg Jim Manders Ron Roeser Jane Meger PARK MAINTENANCE STAFF Dale Gregory, Park Superintendent Dean Schmieg, Park Equipment Operator Charlie Eiler, Park Equipment OperatorlDowntown Keith McKinley, Park Equipment Operator PARK & RECREATION STAFF Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation Supervisor Dawn Lemme, Recreation Supervisor/Senior Citizen Coordinator l ORGANIZATIONAL CHART PARk AND RECREATION DEPARTIIENT CITY MN~ IL I I I I F-- ~ - 1 II PARk. RECREATION DIR I! L.:::: .. ._ ,... -:- :=::::.J i I CITY COUNCIL i I :.'oc==-_=:::::, ------ --.- I I ii ATTORNEY I [ G::::::-==--,=,--==-===="-!.J L-. i I i I pc:c~.=_ .:..:..:..:c:.c.oc=:c:::::::::;:'-".--" "-":;i !, ASSISTANT cm IIANAGER II ~.,,::;:;.;::::.-::;==::::-=_::==-==J,I I r---~ i I r:=..-':=--==-':'-_-~-_-: - __ __ :1 Ii 'I ji PARk SUPERINTENDENT ~ Ii 1.::' -..- ---- -, I I I I i I I I rr;;RK EQUIP. OPERATORS..3 II b I " ~~NAL LABORERS i CDI'IIISSIONS 1 rr-- II SUPPORT SERVICES II I i L ,- - - . i II LRE~REATION SUPERVISORS--2.li I -" I I I ~SEASONAL STAF~ 11 II ..~ - --, II " . . ~ aTY OF Wi 0W#iASSEN . CHANHASSEN PARKS PARK NAME . LAKE ANN LAKE SUSAN HILLS WEST BANDIMERE RICE MARSH LAKE LAKE SUSAN BLUFF CREEK MEADOW GREEN NORTH LOTUS LAKE POWER HILL CHANHASSE~~ POND HERMAN FIELD PHEASANT HILL CITY CENTER SUNSET RIDGE CARVER BEACH CHANHASSEN HILLS SOUTH LOTUS LAKE CURRY FARMS GREENWOOD SHORES PRAIRIE KNOLL BANDIMERE HEIGHTS CARVER BEACH PLAYGROUND CATHCART MINNEWASHTA HEIGHTS CHANHASSEN ESTATES MINI PARK . PARK FACILITIES w ~ ~ w ~ ~~ U ~ Z ~ ~ w~ e< ~ < $< ~~ ffi we ~~~ ~m~ ~~ ~ ~~e~~ ~ ~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~o~< u~~mu >oo~~<~~~ ~~ mzzD <w~~<~~ww~zuu<z~w~~w>-<w Ww~~~~~~Q~z~zz>~~u~z=~~~8 ~~~~~~~~OOWo~~QQS~~8~ffi~5~~~ ~oo<mmm~~~~ ~~~~wwoow~~>>>> C 102 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C 62 . . C 32 . N 70 . . . . . . . . . . , C 33 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C 12 . N 13 . . . . . . . . . Ni20 . . . . . . . . . . . N[16 I ,. . N 31 I . . . NI 12 I . . . . . . N! 12 . . I Ci 10 . . . . . . . . . . NI '5 . . . . . I N 8 . . . . . . . N 8 . . . . . . . C 6 . . . . . . N 6 . . . . . . . . N 3 . . . . . N 4 N 4 . . . N 2 . . . . . . N 2 . . . . . . . . . N 2 . . . . M 1 I . . C - Community Park N . Neighborhood Park M . Mini Park 10 \ CA~TALIMPROVEMENT PROJECT (CIP) INFORMATION The Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission prepared recommendations for the 1994 Park Acquisition and Development CIF in August of 1993. The CIP was then presented to the city council for approval as a part of the 1994 Budget. The 1994 CIP contains $120,600 to fund the park improvements listed below. Reserves are maintained in the following categories: General ($100,000), land purchase west of Lake Minnewashta ($150,000), Chanhassen Elementary School/City Center Park play equipment ($8,000), Highway 101 trail ($15,000), and site furnishing for the new elementary school ($15,000). All monies accumulated in this fund are derived from park and trail dedication fees assessed against new construction. At present, no general tax dollars are invested in "hard" capital for improving the city's park and trail systems. . SCHOOL DISTRICT The City of Chanhassen is unique in that it has two school districts within its city boundaries. Having Chaska School District 112 and Minnetonka School District 276 located in Chanhassen creates unique opportunities for social programming and also for bringing residents together from both school districts. . , THE PRACTICUM PROGRAM It is the belief of the staff of the Chanhassen Park and Recreation Department that the practicum experience for each student should be comprehensive, including all aspects of parks and recreation, and to gear to each individual student's needs and areas of interest, i.e. programming, park maintenance, administration. We believe this type of approach will not only benefit the student in terms of practical education, but also aid our department by continuing to provide the necessary services to the community. RECREA TION INTERNSHIP OBJECTIVES Possible topics/projects for which internship obiective might be obtained: Budgeting Program Planning for Youth and Adult Special Events Athletics City Park Operations Senior Citizens Publicity /Marketing Council/Commission Meetings Sponsorships/Grants Facilities .. .. JOB DESCRIPTION P ARK AND RECREATION INTERN Under the supervision of the administrative staff, the student will assist with the administration, supervision and leadership of all recreation and leisure-oriented activities. A. Qualifications: 1. Must be at least a senior in Parks and Recreation studies. 2. Have completed the necessary requirements with their respective college or university. 3. Possess strong communication and organizational skills. B. Duties and Responsibilities: 1. To follow the regulations and policies of the City of Chanhassen. 2. To perform all given work assignments. 3. To be a good example and positive representative of the Chanhassen Park and Recreation Department. . 4. Perform any other duties related to the field work experience as required by the agency supervisor. C. Hours and Wage: 1. As an intern with the Chanhassen Park and Recreation Department, you will be considered to be on duty during regular office hours and/or scheduled and approved by your agency supervisor. 2. Compensation is based upon individual university requirements and strengths and weaknesses of the practicum student. A salary of approximately $150 to $175 per week can be offered. 3. 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I am anxious to review this with Deputy Koehler. Thanks for your note. . cc: Todd Hoffman, Park & Recreation Director . . . . ALLEN J. WALLI:-i CARVER COUNTY COURTHOUSE 600 EAST 4TH STREET - BOX 9 CHASKA, MINNESOTA 55318-2190 (6121 448.3435 Carver County Sheriff COUNTY or C^QV[Q February 7, 1994 Public Safety Director Scott Barr Chanhassen Public Safety 690 Coulter Drive Chanhassen, MN 55317 Dear Scott, Soon, Deputy Koehler will be presenting you with information regarding a bicycle patrol concept. I have reviewed the information he has gathered thus far, and I am impressed with it. I praise Deputy Koehler for the thought and research he has done in this matter. Clearly, the bicycle patrol idea is yet another representative of the innovative ideas that Chanhassen Public Safety has historically sought and utilized. I think the most salient benefits will be that of the interaction with citizens, and time spent in neighborhoods. Deputy Koehler and I have discussed education v. enforce- ment issues specific to bicycle patrol, and the effects on children v. adults. Deputy Koehler has also shared many of his educational ideas with me. I think the program, run in conjunction with Deputy Koehler and Chanhassen Community Service Officers, can be an effective and feasible public relations tool to use in the community. )' 1/ I . ) ..',-/,; :f;~ Julie Boden cc: Sheriff Wallin Chief Deputy Castleberry Captain Holt Affirma/it~ Adim I Equal OpfXPllmif) Emploler Deputy Koehler Prill/"t! ',11 R ('cl'ckd Pal'" C ITV 0 F CHAHHASSEH . 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNE'SOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900 . FAX (612) 937-5739 January 21, 1994 Ms. Linda Wick MnDNR Outdoor Recreation Grant Program Office of Planning Box 10 500 Lafayette Road St. Paul, MN 55155-4010 Dear Ms. Wick: .This narrative is being prepared in response 10 your inquiry regarding the replacement for . LA WCON funded park land in Chanhassen' s Lake Ann Park. The acquisition of approximately 4.1 acres of the park is necessitated by the need to construct an east/west frontage road and ultimately a portion of the upgrade to Hwy. 5, across the property. The extent of the action is described in the Environmental Assessment document that has been prepared. I am attaching Chapter 8 of the study, which details the 4f/6f evaluation, for your review. The 4.1 acre loss is the worst case scenario. At the time of writing, the City Council has yet to take fmal action on the EA. The land taking in the southwest comer of the park is increased due to the need to off-set the adjacent intersection with Audubon Road to maintain traffic safety. The Council may delete the intersection which would decrease the taking somewhat. The road in question has been a part of Chanhassen ~ s adopted Comprehensive Plan for many years. The ultimate intent is to provide a local street extension of our main strt-.et so that many trips to our downtown, parks, schools and community facilities can be completed without having to use a four-lane highway. The road is designed as a parkway with low design speeds, environmental protection, and landscaping. It will also contain a major east/west, grade-separated trail link that will serve the community. . . . . Ms. Linda Wick January 21, 1994 Page 2 Relative to Lake Ann Park specifically, the road and trail are essential to providing safe access. The only street entrance to the park is via a curb-cut directly onto Highway 5. Hwy. 5 is a major route for suburban commuting and outstate trips. Traffic volumes are high and growing rapidly as Chanhassen and surrounding commlJIlities develop. Vehicles are moving at high speeds and visibility/reaction time is not adequate. There have been a number of close calls and the city strongly believes this road is essential for safe and efficient utilization of what has been developed as our most important recreational facility. At this time there is no pedestrian or bike trail access to the park from most of the city. and walking or biking on Hwy. 5 itself is not a prudent option. The proposed road will remedy both situations. You asked for an analysis of alternatives to the proposed action. Short of the "do nothing" option, there are none. Lake Ann itself, the surrounding land ownership and development pattern make it impossible to provide access by any other means. Even if it was possible, relocating the park's entrance would cause major disruption to its recreational facilities. The road alignment is designed to minimize disruption to the park by its placement near Hwy. 5. More northerly alignments would take additional property. The city is proposing to substitute approximately 20 acres of land we have recently acquired. The site is located approximately 4500 feet west of Lake Ann at the southeast comer of the intersection of Hwy. 5 and Galpin Boulevard. It is part of a 40 acre parcel we acquired to facilitate the construction of a new elementary school. . At your request, I am including a copy of the appraisal we had completed for the school site. I also want to make it very clear that the school only needed 20 acres to accommodate their facilities. However, the city has entered into a cooperative arrangement with the school district to maximize the cross-utilization of recreational facilities at the site. For example, the school only needs one ball field and play area for their programs. The city will be building three additional baseball/soccer fields. four tennis courts and a hockey rink to meet the recreational needs of our residents. We are also building a second gymnasium, locker rooms and meeting rooms to meet our needs. The cooperative arrangement allows for tremendous efficiency for this public investtnent I am attaching a set of plans for your review. In summary, I believe we have demonstrated that the substitution is being done in good faith and far exceeds your requirements in terms of acreage value. In trade off for the loss of a few acres, Lake Ann Park becomes much safer to use for people arriving by car. foot or bike. The city and school district have also created another major recreational facility in a cost effective manner. We apologize if there was some failure in following procedural guidelines relative to the Ms. Linda Wick January 21, 1994 Page 3 LA WCON replacement We have been intensively involved with this road and MnDOT for several years and were unaware that there were requirements we were not meeting. If you need further information, please feel free to contact me. vJ~ Paul Krauss, AICP Director of Planning pc: Mayor and City Council Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission Barton Aschman, Inc. (Deb Porter) MnDOT Staff (Ron Erickson, Evan Green) . . . . . . CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900 . FAX (612) 937-5739 January 26, 1994 Mr. Ed Battani 6547 Gray Fox Curve Chanhassen, MN 55317 Dear Mr. Battani: Thank you for your inquiry into the possibility of installing a fishing pier at North Lotus Lake. I received your letter on the 25th of January. ,This enabled me to present it to the Park and Recreation Commission on the evening of the 25th as an administrative presentation. The commission was disturbed by the news that snowmobiles were traversing the park and in doing so, destroying natural vegetation. The city take action to deter this travel with signage and barricades. In regard to the fishing pier, unfortunately the commission is unable to provide a pier. In discussing the request, the number one barrier is the remoteness of the site and the inability to provide equal access for all. Access through backyards or from the current parking lot which lies over 800 feet to the north is not acceptable. Furthermore, to gain access to open water it would be necessary to negotiate 190 feet of wetland vegetation with one of a variety of floating boardwalks. The remoteness of the recreational facility which would result under this circumstances further precludes the pier from consideration. I am sorry the news about a fishing pier is not more cheery. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have questions in this regard or if you have any other ideas for Nonh Lotus Lake Park. Sincerely, --;:::::p- /9~ /;d:i'~'~# Todd Hoffman Park and Recreation Director pc: Don Ashworth, City Manager Park and Recreation Commission YOUTH COMMISSION AGENDA VVednesday, Feb. 9, 1994 7 . 8:30 PM Jonathan Elementary School Lounge . A nnOlJncementc;: Bring the clean, pressed tablecloths to our meeting. Please note the items you will address at the meeting. 1) Call meeting to order. Take attendance. (2 minutes) 2) Approve or amend agenda. (2 minutes) 3) Review Minutes of December 6, 1993 (2 minutes) 4) Jeanne's Comments. (5 minutes) 5) OLD BlJSINESS a. Agency Updates - (10 minutes) (Call JS if you do not have a 3-ring notebook!) Quarterly presentations. Propose: February, May, August. November Carver County Position: Students going off Commission as seniors must notify councils now! b. Volunteer Service Directory - Jeanne S (2 minutes) c. Chanhassen Park & Rec Commission Request. (5 minutes) Want student input on how to use the City owned space at the new elementary school in Chanhassen which is to open fall 1995. What format will we use to get middle school and high school input? d. Review infonnation given to the City of Chaska for the 1994 Calendar. (Carly) (3 minutes) e Community Service Projects . 1. Parent's Anonymous Mtg. Feb. 8. 7 - 8 pm. Need 2 people. (2 minutes) Laurie Twait is the contact person. 448-2695. 2. Holiday Gift Project. Natalie. (3 minutes) 3. Teen Night at the Middle School (3 minutes) f. When should hold YC meetings? Report by Jeanne. (5 minutes) 6) NEW BUSINESS a. Leadership Conference. See enclosed infonnation sheet Time is limited. Would recommend that we get as many to attend as possible. Cost is covered by Community Education. Simply return your fonn to me at 110600 Village Road, Chaska 55318 IMMEDIATELY. (3 minutes) b. Fonnation of sub-committees to create the following lists: (5-10 minutes) 1. What is expected of me as a Youth Commission mem ber? 2. What is expected of me as a contact person between the YC and the City Council? 3. What is expected of me as a City Council member? c. Brief explanation regarding "Teen Spirit" Scholarship Program. Phyllis. (5 minutes) d. Future Loaves & Fishes Project Lori Wellens, Chair. (5 minutes) e. Idea for a new Community Service Project. Lori. (10 minutes) Sub-Committee of both youth and adults. f. Values Week Buttons/Heroes articles. Jeanne (5 minutes) R!?CEi J:...D Values Week in school newspaper. Farrah. (3 minutes) . . g. Fonn sub-committee to meet prior to next meeting to discuss "Speak Outs" (3 min) .. ! .. '. :. lS':.4 h. Report on "Show & Tell" at MSBA Conference Jan. 13, 1994. Danyelle. (3 min~\tr~)OF Cr:.^,!'!H"._-.'~ . Other matters tabled for future meetings: 1. Newspaper notices of meeting times/dates. 2. Undate on the teen center at Shepherd of the Hills Church. Called "Underground" 3. Working with Key Club and other student groups/projects. 4. Presentation by LeeAnn on Learning Styles 5. Presentation on "How to Run A Good Meeting!" 6. Service Learning Conference. Molly D. 7. Discuss possible money maker for YC? 8. YC working with Mrs. Bomer in talking to middle school girl's health classes. 9. YC T-shirts 10. Determine committee structure to be used beginning Fall 1994 for yc. II. Picture of YC in the yearbook. 12. Mindworks Topics at the High School. Organize for next year? 13. Grant proposals. Self-esteem for girls. Two sources. This meeting will run exactly 1 1/2 hours if we follow the schedule. The meeting will begin promptly at 7 pm!!! Please be on time. We ask that you call Lori Wellens at 448-5603 if you are unable to attend. . . YOUTH COMMISSION CALLING TREE . 1994 There will be occasions during the year when we have to cancel or call a meeting or special event. Those are the times the Calling Tree will be in effect. This is how it's done. You must call the person who is listed below your name on the Calling Tree. You must somehow get word to them by talking to them directly on the phone or by leaving a message on an answering machine. This is expected of Youth Commission members. If you are unable to talk directly to the designated individual on the phone, you must leave a message for them but then also call the next person on the list. Continue to call until you find someone home. If your name is at the bottom of the list, you must call the name at the top of the list to inform them that the Calling Tree has been completed. Jeanne Straus Natalie Rossini Phyllis Lindstrand Lori Wellens Lee Ann Olinger Susan Hurm Rich Lambert Carly Sorscher Mike Fahey Farrah Merchant Molly DeBower Danyelle Mannix Charles Lawler Louise Lehner Carver County Adult 448-5615 474-1740 448-6065 448-5603 443-2734 368-4465 440-1325 470-0041 448-2320 443-2492 448-6108 448-3154 448-7675 443-2326 ????????? . . . . LEADERSHIP: Leading F or Tomorrow The mission of this Leadership series is to identify, develop, encourage and support emerging and current leaders in Carver County. 3 Thursdays, February 10, 17 and 24, 1994 Ridgeview Medical Center Auditorium 500 Maple Street s. Waconia, MN 6:30-9:30PM TOPICS AND PRESENTERS: Feb. 10th: "PRINCIPLE CENTERED LIVING" Learn how to take personal responsibility for a more effective life. -Ken Ritterspach, President of Training Services Corporation Feb. 17th: "ORGANIZATIONS HAVE A LIFE OF THEIR OWN: Ensuring They Don't Rob You of Yours!" Explore 3 stages of group development and learn what you can do in each of these stages to help your group's productivity. Also assess leadership situations in which you are most comfortable and develop strategies for mastering the other styles needed to work with groups at various phases. -Barbara Gorski, University of St. Thomas Feb. 24th: "BRINGING YOUR COMMUNITY TO ACTION" An approach to citizen involvement, building effective teams and moving them to action. -Juan Jackson, Center for Democracy, Humphrey Institute COST: ~ Watertown-Mayer Comm. Ed. PO Box 368 Watertown, MN 55388 955-0208 ~^'''''~'~:~'''^};,;:=]I;J~t!~i~I'.l_if.ll'::,::::, . 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Ed. 110600 Village Rd. Chaska, MN 55318 368-3688 Carver Co. ExLServices 609 W. 1st Street Waconia, MN 55387 442-4496. 446-1722, Minutes Youth Commission Meeting December 6, 1993, Jonathan Elementary . The meeting was brought to order at 7:15 pm by Vice-Chairperson Phyllis Lindstrand. Attendance was taken using the new form. Those present included Phyllis Lindstrand, Carly Sorscher, Farrah Merchant, LeeAnn Olinger, Mike Fahey, Susan Hurm, and Danyelle Mannix. Natalie Rossini arrived a little later. Not present included Charles Lawler, Louise Lehner, Molly DeB ower, and Rich Lambert. The agenda was approved with the addition of three items.. Old Business. 1) City Council Updates. Natalie Rossini, Susan Hurm, Phyllis Lindstrand, Nicole Lindstrand, Danyelle Mannix, and Jeanne Straus attended a Chanhassen Park & Recreation Commission meeting on Nov. 16, 1993. Park & Rec members asked what youth in our area need, specifically related to teen social and recreational needs. District 112 teens and Minnetonka teens responded to the question. Both groups agreed to meet and brainstorm the question and return to the Commission with their responses. Lee Ann will visit with the high school student council. DanyelJe will ask the high school leadership group for their input and Jeanne will get information from Middle School students. 2. Loaves & Fishes. The trip into the three churches on Nov. 11 was considered a big success by those who attended. In fact, by word of mouth, many others want to become . involved. Lori Wellens will look into making arrangements after the first of the year. 3. Volunteer Service Directory. It is at the printers. There are 3000 copies being made to be distributed to high school and middle school youth. There are 49 different sponsoring agencies of volunteer opportunities. Discussion took place as to how the directories should be distributed this year. Lee Ann agreed to meet with CHS social studies teachers about a distribution process. At CMS, perhaps thru Advisor/Advisee or AA groups. (Jeanne will ask Mrs. Bomer.) Phyllis is willing to help with this. 4. YC Meeting Notice in local newspapers & in high school paper. Natalie will work with the three local newspapers. Farrah will work with the school paper. Danyelle & Jeanne worked on an announcement. Reads as follows: The Youth Commission will meet on Saturday, january 8 at j's Restaurant for a noon luncheon at j's Restaurant. Discussion items will include: 1) Sharing new ideas for youth & teen programming. These ideas will be passed on to the Chanhassen Park & Recreation Commission who are exploring the possibility of making community recreation space available for teen programming. It is proposed that a community recreation space be included in the new elementary school in Chanhassen. This is a follow-up to the discussion which took place between area youth and the Commission on Nol'. 16. 2) Review results of the Chaska High School Holiday Clothes/Gift Drive. 3) Plan attend nee . . for February Leadership Conference. All Youth Commission meetings are open to the public. For additional information contact Natalie at 474-1740 or Jeanne at 368-3686. 5. Tree Donation from Target (Chanhassen store) to District 112. It was thought that the tree could be used for the Holiday Gifts Project sponsored by YC and student council. The tree must be picked up at 10:00 am at Target on Saturday, December 18. Natalie will talk to the Herald and ask if they plan to cover the event. Due to scheduling difficulties with the Target tree, we looked for another tree. A live tree has been donated by Chaska Farm & Garden (owner Tom Hayden) and will be used for this project. The tree will be given to CAP agency to be distributed to a family who needs one. 6. The need for sub-committee work was discussed. We seem to have a need for a photographer and a writer in order to get newspaper coverage ofYC events. Farrah will ask Louise if she will help with the public relations responsibilities. Another task is to reserve the meeting space for Youth Commission meetings. Phyllis has been making those reservations and has agreed to continue doing that. 7. YC and Key Club provided 7 high school chaperones for the Dec. 3, 1993 Mddle School Teen Night. The high school youth enjoyed the experience and volunteered to help again at the January Teen Night. . 8. It was suggested that YC members have t-shirts or sweatshirts in order to provide more "press" and to be used in photo opportunities such as the Dec 18 Target "Communitree Project". Jeanne will have a computer banner "Youth Commission" made for December 18 and for future use.. Lee Ann, Danyelle and Natalie will work on a sketch for YC t'shirts. (Update: In a brunch meeting with youth members on December 9 at Jeanne's house, youth brainstormed ideas for t'shirts. City, county, and school logo's will be displayed in a "rainbow" pattern with Youth Commission in bold print on a navy shirt. Will bring sketches to the next meeting.) 9. Lee Ann & Natalie still plan to go to the Underground at Shepherd of the Hills Church. They will report back on the current activities of the teen center. 10. Include in newspapers: Info on YC meetings, need for community role model nominations, and need for new YC member in Carver County vacancy. Lori & Jeanne? II. Recruitment of new member for Carver County. Suggestion: Mark Litfin. early Sorscher & Mike Fahey will check with Deb Wagner about current status of vacancy. Jeanne will check with senior citizen group in Chanhassen via Dawn Lemme. 12. Lee Ann attended the "Learn to Lead" conference on November 6 & 7th. Her 4-H group actually planned a project. She will share info on Learning Styles at our next mtg. . 13. Carly Sorscher submitted a description of the Youth Commission to be used in the City of Chaska Community Calendar. Write-up will be reviewed at the next meeting. 14. "Hero" articles. Briefanicle should be written up for the newspapers asking community people to identify individuals who demonstrate the eight community values. Lori \\'ellens and Jeanne will initiate that. Farrah & Jeanne will talk with the English teachers about working with this as a "composition" assignment. . 15. Natalie agreed to get picture of students who attended the November Loaves & Fishes enlarged. Will make a "Community Service" poster for the high school office window. 16. Lee Ann and six other high school students attended the Parent Involvement Forum facilitated by Dick Menzel at the high school library on Monday, November 22, 1993. Topic: What parents/guardians expect of their teenage children. What teenagers expect of their parents/guardians. Lots of questions and answers. Good job by the students. Dick mentioned that he would like to offer the forum again next year but will include students in the planning process. One ideas was to offer a forum around prom time asking this same question related to prom issues. Natalie & Lee Ann will look into it. 17. Since the "Show & Tell" is coming up so fast, a brunch meeting will be held at Jeanne's house at 7 AM on Thursday, Dec 9 for planning. All pictures, slides, video tapes are to be delivered to Danyelle ASAP. She will serve as the "technology" expert in putting the video presentation together. Volunteers are needed to make a display poster and gather handouts to be used on January 13 at the St. Paul Civic Center for the MN School Board Assn. Conference. . 18. There are two different grants which YC can apply to for the purpose of writing & producing "skits" which address the youth issue of female self-esteem One is the MN Arts Council. The other is MN Women's Fund. Jeanne needs volunteers to help write the grants. 19. Susan Hurm is interested in pursuing the December Mindworks topic. "What's the best thing about your neighborhood or community? Do you think your neighborhood or community serves young people well? How could your neighborhood or community improve life for children & teens? How shall we proceed? When? 20. The Minnesota Father of the Year Essay Contest discussion was tabled. Carly Sorscher made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Susan Hurrn seconded the motion. The meeting was adjourned at 9:00 pm. Special thanks to Phyllis for tlte holiday treats. They were great! . Fourth Annual Outstanding Youth Awards Principals, Teachers, Parents, and Friends: Support Values Week Please nominate one or more area youth (grades 1-12, attending any area school) (use the form on the back of this page) Submit nominations by February 11th to: The Chanhassen Bank 600 West 78th Street Chanhassen, MN 55317 The Selection Committee. consisting of local business people and residents. will select eight out. standing youth from the nominations received. Eight $50 Savings Bonds will be awarded, and aU nominees will receive recognition for their community efforts. Our community's outstanding youth will be recognized on Saturday night. February 26th at 6:00 p.m., at the Chaska High School Gymnasium. --.THE C BANK Outstanding Youth Nomination Form (Please Print) Nominee's Name Age Complete Address School he/she attends Grade Value demonstrated Description of how he/she models one or more of the values above (be specific): Nominated by: Phone number Mail or deliver your nomination to The Chanhassen Bank by February 11 tho Outstanding Youth Nomination Form (Please Print) Nominee's Name Age Complete Address School he/she attends Grade Value demonstrated Description of how he/she models one or more of the values above (be specific): Nominated by: Phone number Mail or deliver your nomination to The Chanhassen Bank by February 11 tho . . . CITY OF CHANHASSEN 1993/1994 APPROVED SUBDMSION LOTS Subdivision Name Developer Location LotsISetbacks Highlands on Lake Lundgren Bros. No. of Hwy. 5 and 33 single family (3 St. Joe (Boley) 935 E. Wayzata east of Minnewashta outlots ) 93-1 SUB Blvd., Parkway Standard Wayzata, MN 55391 473-1231 Windmill Run Rottlund Company No. of Hwy. 5 and 35 single family 93-4 SUB 5201 E. River Rd. east of Galpin Blvd. Standard Suite 301 571-0304 Fridley, MN 55421 Stone Creek Hans Hagen Homes So. of Hwy. 5 and 141 single family 92-1 SUB Timberwood Estates, Standard with tree east of Galpin Blvd. conservation 572-9455 setbacks Bluff Creek Estates Keyland Homes No. of Lyman Blvd. 78 single family 92-5 SUB 14450 Bumsville and east of Audubon Parkway Road B urnsville, MN 894-2636 55337 Royal Oak Estates Brett Davidson No. of Hwy. 5 and 23 single family 93-8 SUB east of Galpin (no. Standard 470-9087 of Windmill Run) Lotus Lake Leanna Forcier 7500 Frontier Trail 7 single family Woods* 937-9440 Front yard 25' on 93-10 SUB Del Rio Drive Tower Heights* JMS Development So. of Pleasant View 13 single family 93-12 SUB Suite 100 Road, east of Standard 4725 Hwy. 7 Peaceful Lane and Minneapolis, MN no. of Lake Lucy 922-1981 55416 Road Shenandoah ~dge Shamrock Develop. East of Audubon 20 single family 93-14 SUB 3200 Main Street Road, south and Standard Coon Rapids, MN west of Lake Susan 421-3500 55448 Hills Church Road Greg Reed 6301 Church Road 4 single family Addition 751-8758 Standard 93-15 SUB ..:& Trotters Ridge Tandem Properties So. of Hwy. 5 and 49 single family 93-2 PUD Suite 310 east of Galpin Blvd. Standard except tree 7808 Creekridge Cir lots & wetlands 471-0573 Bloomington 55439 Oak Ponds/Oak Dean Johnson Const. No. of West 78th 104 Townhomes Hill Townhornes 8984 Zachary Lane Street, between (owner) 92-3 PUD North Powers and Kerber Maple Grove. MN Boulevard 105 Apartments 493-6340 55369 Lake Susan Hills Argus/J oe Miller East side of Powers 91 single family 9th Addition Homes Blvd. so. of Hwy. 5 Front-25' 87-3 PUD 454-4663 (13,658 sJ. avg.) Prairie Creek Jasper Development East side of Powers 24 townhome units Townhomes 235 1st Street W. Blvd. so. of Hwy. 5 87-3 PUD Waconia, MN 442-5611 55387 WilIowridge Lundgren Bros. East of Powers 12 single family 91-3 PUD 473-1231 Blvd. just south of Lake Lucy Road . J ohnson/Dolejsi/ Lundgren Bros. No. of Hwy. 5 and 112 single family- Turner (JDT)* 473-1231 east of Hwy. 41 Front-Lots 1, 14- 93-6 PUD 19,22-24.30.31. 37- 43,52-57. 62. 65- 74.78-81. Block 2- 20' minimum side separation RogerslDolejsi* Lundgren Bros. Lake Riley & 134 single family 93-6 PUD 473-1231 Lyman Blvd. Song/Carlson* Lundgren Bros. No. of Hwy. 5 and .115 single family 93- 3 PUD 473-1231 west on Galpin Blvd. Mission Hills ** Tandem Properties So. of Hwy. 5 and 208 multi-family/ 93-11 SUB 471-0573 east of Hwy. 101 neighborhood retail Minnewashta ** Harstad Companies North of Kings 57 single family Subdivision 2191 Silver Lake Rd Road and west of lots 93-11 SUB New Brighton 55112 Minnewashta 636-9991 Parkway Halla's Great Don Halla East of TH 101, so. 36 single family Plains Golf 445-6555 of Pioneer Trail Estates** 86-31 SUB Minnewashta Kenneth Durr SE Comer of Hwy. 26 single family Landings** 935-7789 7 and Minnewashta 94-1 SUB Parkway . . . . Hiscox Addition** Andrew Hiscox 7500 Erie Avenue 3 single family 87-31 SUB . Cunningham** Wm. Patrick 6240 Ridge Road 3 single family . Addition Cunningham 94-2 SUB * Preliminary ** Proposed 2/2/94 . . ORGANIZATIONAL CHART PARK AND RECREATION DEPART"ENT . r I '- CITY COUNCIL ~l I - I [__~~~E;- 1 - I I ..L- I ~---;;R-K ~~ECR~-AT~~ DIR ]I [f i .-- -r- :::!J_ ! ,.---..-.-- i i I I I n:::=~='::::::::;=='::==-="-=====j! jl ATTORNEY Jl Lh::'-'::::='::::===:"'-=:-':::"7.::".::.:=:::=.-=.=--=::=:::...J ! i I I fF::::~:::":":::::::":;::::::::=~=::--"---.-----;-i Ii ASSISTANT CITY "ANASER II i..:::::::::::::::-.:.:==-_-=--==:==-__ I ..,. i ,____._L I I i I IT-"''=:::.=.:::::-.-:-.-:--=-_..l.._.____:1 II PARK SUPERINTENDENT I L:::- ---- -T .. - __I i I I , I I I I rlf P~;~ EQUIP. -;;ORS--3 II lb:.. 'I I- I j 1[~~~~~~~ORER~J.l ! IL C~I~IONS II .::-.J 1 11 SUPPORT SERVICES . I ~~ l~E~REA~ION_ SUPER V ISORS--2 Jl -\ .-~ i I r',. - - l :---] I SEASONAL STAFF I . . ..'>-...,..'_'lo:._._~.r.....,.".....',>,.':t -~., Ll..J1~~1: 3_%!3. ~ ....... I ....~ . City of Chaska Department of Parks, Recreation and Art February 14, 1994 Mr. Todd Hoffman Chanhassen Park & Recreation Department 690 Coulter Drive Chanhassen, MN 55317 Dear Todd, In our meeting with School District #112 and city representatives and mayors an issue was raised by school administration as to an appropriate process for scheduling school space outside of school hours and needs. It was a city of Chaska offer to the School District to allow the school use of Pioneer Park for our ability to schedule new high school space during non-school times. Much of the programming on the school space would be for middle age baseball and soccer which is currently offered on a school wide basis. We are a~reeable to working with the City of Chanhassen in schedul1ng these components in addition to the two smaller softball fields in a manner which is convenient to all parties. I feel that the existing arrangement of each City providing leisure services has served the total area quite well. I agree with your comment at this meeting that the process is working but that future demands by our residents may necessitate change. It is our hope that we deal with any necessary change at the appropriate time rather than trying to envision ~r deal with "possible" problems now. The City of Chaska has received a request from School District #112 to accommodate co-curricular programs on City of Chaska space that serve youth from throughout the district boundaries including Carver and Victoria. Rr:r.E'. i\fi'" ~\ ,d", O! i.1.1 . -!- -'~ .. ,- '" o. j lh i '.; !9,.J~ cny vt- Lf-''-'I\ir,;.<:,SEI-.. 1661 PARK RIDGE DRIVE, CHASKA, MINNESOTA 55318 / 612-448-5633 . Their spring 1994 request includes: 1. Varsity baseball at Athletic Park 2. J.V. baseball at Lion's Park 3. 9th ~rade baseball at Lion's Park 4. Tenn~s at Lion's Park There are also good possibilities of softball and soccer school programs using municipal parks - in addition to possible intramural program expansion. The Chaska Par 30 Golf Course is also made available at a reduced rate for all Middle Schoel studen~s. The point of this letter is to demonstrate that our past actions in school areas and others such as youth gymnastics and adult volleyball have benefited both of our c~ties and all of our residents. Your programs have likewise benefited many outside of your city's boundaries. It is this philosophy of asking how we can best serve our residents that has benefited all School District #112 residents. It is our hope in the City of Chaska that we can continue this approach with the City of Chanhassen. The alterative seems to be a hodge podge of agreements which CitY,Council and Commissions will interpret as to who is gett~ng the better deal. I'd be interested in your response regarding the intent of this letter especially as it relates to the new high school outdoor athletic area. Thanks. . Sincerely, t. ~. 1,,\...,\./\ Tom Redman, Director Chaska Park, Recreation and Art Department cc: Dan Ashworth Dave Pokorney Dave Clough . . . . C I TV Todd Hoffman CHANHAss~R 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739 MEMORANDUM TO: Tree Board Members FROM: Bob Generous, Planner IT DATE: February 14, 1994 SUBJ: Final Revisions to the Tree Preservation Ordinance At the January 31, 1994, Tree Board meeting, we performed a fmal review of the proposed tree ordinance. Following are the changes and corrections that were made as a result of the meeting. Please note that I have removed all the strikeouts and underlines from the version dated 1/21/94. p.I, (1) added: damaged and diseased trees to survey requirement. This should reduce the chances for developers coming to the City after the fact claiming that a tree was dead or dying and therefore needed to be removed. p.2, I st para. added language that the intent of the canopy coverage is to provide this coverage at complete development of the site. p.3, example corrected typo. The minimum canopy coverage would be 46 percent. p.3, added (9) trees shall be from certified nursery stock as defmed and controlled by Minnesota Statutes sections 18.44 through 18.61, the Plant Pest Act. p.4, (3) deleted last sentence: "To the extent possible, the pad and deck sites shall be positioned to avoid impacting substantial trees unless there is no feasible alternative. " This sentence was vague and did not provide additional guidance. p.5, (4)h. added "within PUDs" and "The setback variations shall be established and recorded as part of the plat approval." This requires that the developer make determinations of setbacks as part of the development. The City will not have to record these deviations as building permits come in for approval and setbacks will not be established on a flIst come first serve basis. Tree Board February 14, 1994 Page 3 Undesirable species means aspen, box elder, cottonwood, elm, and willow. I believe that this ordinance is now ready to continue through to the Planning Commission and City Council. However, I wanted to provide the board members with one last opportunity to comment on the ordinance and these final changes. Please provide me with any comments on the ordinance by Tuesday, February 22, 1994. Unless there are significant changes proposed to the ordinance, I do not believe that we will need to meet again on this ordinance. Thank you for your time and dedication in working on this ordinance. The Oty owes much for your effort and patience. I believe that this ordinance is something that will bode well for the future of the city. Attachment . . . . . . 12/08/93 12/20/93 1/21/94 2/2/94 area(s) which outlines all areas covered by tree canopy shall be included as part of the survey. Additionally, all damaged and diseased trees shall be cataloged with the nature and extend of any damage or disease specified. (a) Based on this survey and either site observation and measurement or aerial photograph interpretation, the following shall be calculated: 1) Base line Canopy coverage (i.e. percent of site covered by tree canopy) 2) Canopy Retention Requirements, calculated as follows: The following table shall be used to determine the minimum amount of woodland canop~' coverage that must be maintained or provided on-site as part of the development. It shall represent the minimum canopy coverage, consisting of existing tree canopy and/or the specified reforestation or replacement trees required for the site, at the time of complete development of the site. Existing wetland areas located on site shall be excluded from the calculation of site area in the determination of required site coverage. If a forested area is to be dedicated to the City for park land, then this area shall not be included in the base line canopy coverage area calculation nor shall it count towards the minimum canopy coverage for the site. Base Line Canopy Coveraee Comprehensive Plan Desienation 20 - 39% 19% or less 40 - 59% 80 . 100% 60 . 79% CommerciallIndustrial 28% 25% 20% 14% 10% High Density Residential 35% 30% 25% 20% 15% Medium Density 40% Residential 35% 30% 25% 20% Low Density Residential 55% 46% 35% 30% 25% Large Lot Residential 68% 56% 43% 35% 25% 2 12/08/93 12/20/93 1121194 2/2/94 . (2) To the extent practical, site design shall preserve significant woodland areas and special trees. Special priority for tree preservation shall be given to areas within flood plains, wetlands, stream corridors, wooded slopes, and along collector and arterial roadway corridors. To facilitate this, a woodland management plan, which may include preservation, reforestation, and replacement elements, shall be formulated by the developer as one component of tbe development proposal. The woodland management plan shall be prepared and signed by a registered landscape architect, licensed forester, or other professional approved by the city. This plan shall include the following information: a. Tree survey b. Designated woodland areas c. Location and size of replacement/reforestation tree planting areas d. List of all replacement trees including species, caliper, and planting method e. Methods of tree protection f. Location of all protective fencing g. Special construction methods to be utilized h. Location of all retaining walls i. Statement explaining why replacement trees are necessary j. Rationale for selection of replacement/reforestation trees . (3) The applicant must demonstrate that suitable bome sites exist on eacb lot by describing a 60' x 60' building pad (whicb includes deck area) without intruding into required setbacks and easements. (4) Minimizing the tree loss should be acbieved by any combination of tbe following: a. realignment of streets, utilities and lot lines b. consideration of alternative utility configurations sucb as tbe use of ejector pumps, force mains, or revised bome elevations to minimize grading Co reductions in street widtb and right-of-way and increase in street grade up to 10% wben the applicant can demonstrate that significant tree preservation is directly related to tbe modification d. use of private drives in lieu of public streets e. variation in street radius and design speed f. modified grading plans 4 . . . . 12/08/93 12/20193 1121/94 2/2/94 (7) ~uring the removal process, trees shall be removed so as to prevent blocking of public nghts-of-way or interfering with overhead utility lines. (8) The removal of diseased and damaged trees is permissible only if they cannot be saved. Tbese trees sball not be counted wben computing tbe base line tree canopy coverage. (10) If any protected significant trees are removed or killed or tbere is a loss of trees as the result of construction activities, tbe city requires replacement at the rate of two (2) caliper inches per each inch of DBH of the removed, killed, or lost trees. Tbe replacement trees shall be at least two and a half (2 1/2) incbes caliper and will be species that conform to the List of Desirable Tree Species for Planting in Chanhassen. No more than one-tbird (1/3) of the trees may be from anyone tree species. Other species or sizes ma~' be used as replacement trees subject to approval by the City. Alternately, if a developer removes trees witbin a protected area, tbe canopy coverage area shall be calculated for that area and a replacement area I.S times the canopy coverage area that was removed sball be planted. Plant materials shall be supplied on a per-acre basis using the following criteria: forty (40) trees per acre, trees from list of desirable tree species, no more than one-tbird (1/3) of trees from anyone tree species, average 2 1/2 incb caliper with a minimum 1 1/2 inch caliper, a similar species as vegetation existing on site, and appropriate to the soil conditions. Any replacement trees tbat can not be planted on tbe original site due to space restrictions shall be planted on city property at locations to be determined by the city.:. Replacemeat Elf gees appfeved fer remeval BY the chy may Be required 0R a caliper iRch by ealiper ifu~h aasis. At miBifftt:lm, he\vever, Fep1aeeffteat trees shall cClRferm to the p1aRgag reqt:lHeffteats iseagfied ia seegElR 20 1178(e)(3). (11) Financial guarantees acceptable to the city shall be required to ensure compliance witb this section satisfaet0T)' iRstallatiElR Elf 1essclll'iag reqt:life!MBtS. Section 2. Section 20-1, Definitions, of the Chanhassen City Code is amended by adding the following definitions: Caliper means diameter measured at six (6) incbes above ground. Canopy coverage shall mean the area on a horizontal plane that is located under the crowns of all the trees on the site. 6 12/08/93 12/20/93 1/21/94 2/2/94 . Woodlands shall mean any groupings of significant trees witb a canopy coverage of one (1) acre or more, any groupings of 10 or more substantial trees, or any grouping of trees with at least one (1) special tree and wbere 25 percent or more of otber trees are significant trees. List of Desirable Tree Species for Planting in Cbanbassen means tbe following list of tree species. List of Desirable Tree Species for Planting in Cbanbassen Key to notations used: N = Native; Suitable for reforestation/replacement plantings DT = Relatively tolerant to drought or dry sites Size: (in terms of expected mature height) L = Large (over 50 feet) M = Medium (between 25 to 50 feet) S = Small (less than 25 feet Broadleaf Species Size Notes Amur Maple S Sbade tolerant. Acer ginnala Norway Maple M-L Protect from sunscald. Acer platanoides Red Maple M N Protect from sunscald. Acer rubrum Grows best on moist, acid soils. Sugar Maple L N Protect from sunscald. Acer saccharum Prefen moist, well- drained soils. Ohio Buckeye M Aesculus glabra River birch M Relatively tolerant of Betula nigra wet sites . 8 . . . . 12/08/93 12/20/93 1/21/94 2/2/94 Black Cherry M N Prunus serotina White Oak L N Quercus alba Swamp White Oak L N Relatively tolerant of Quercus bicolor wet sites Bur Oak L N DT Quercus macrocarpa Red Oak L N Fastest growing oak Quercus rubra Black Locust L DT Robinia pseudoacacia Mountain Ash M Protect from sunscald Sorbus spp. Japanese Tree Lilac S Syringa reticulata American Linden L N A.K.A Basswood; Tilia american a Relatively tolerant of wet sites Littleleaf Linden M Tilia cordata CONIFERS Balsam Fir M N Relatively tolerant of Abies balsamea wet sites. Shade tolerant. White Fir M DT Abies concolor 10 12/08/93 12/20/93 1121/94 2/2/94 . Section 4. This ordinance shall be effective immediately upon its passage and publication. PASSED AND ADOPTED this the City of Chanhassen. day of , 1993, by the City Council of ATTEST: Don Ashworth, Clerk/Manager Donald J. 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QJ .... -= I.=-= o '" . ~ rI:l QJ · c..CJr--- =c~ 0='" I.~- =sJ -c c; QJ:u =sJ .. I. .... aZ =..... - .. .. OIJrI:l I. = QJ ~~; . CHANHASSEN PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT 690 COULTER DRIVE CHANHASSEN. MN 55317 PHONE: 137-1800 .. PROGRAM EVALUATION In order to better serve our participants in our recreation programs, we ask that you take a few minutes to answer the following questions, and give us your suggestions. Thank you! Program Title: Cr<D::L CJJ\Jt'JIR~ 61:J SessionITime: /-?J p\'~ Date: Il,nlD{ I , Participant is a: Child ~ . Adult (Please Circle one) Cj~btJ I tJTLf BALL Location of Program: Excellent ('ood Averaae Fair Poor (Please Circle) . Overall impression of the program cD 2 3 4 5 Program Location 1 ~ 3 4 5. Program Time 1 2 @ 4 5 Program Length (1) 2 3 4 5 Class Organization 1 @ 3 4 5 Instructor LV 2 3 4 5 What did you/your child like most about this program? l:1:7"r1.d ~'\..D..J P )/fYli~ n ~Ll) 1]) d 0 t\W\Cj 6 ~ +\\ 0.1\ f;hDu.>t'n 0 (1 P Xfl en 1)[.(' What improvements could be made to better this program? MOve CJ{1'1~:f. tOt tlltnj fy(JJj~) . (over) Do you have any suggestions or ideas for future programs? r\ ! I '1 ..-,. \ Vi n ' Additional comments: -.!..11lJ? 9y(Y~v'(l..nl LA H'L~ Y'f'li~_1YAXI. The Chanhassen Park and Recreation Department is afways looking for program ideas, and instructors willing to teach. If you have a special talent, or would be willing to teach a future class, please give us your idea with your name, address, and phone number below. Again, thank you for your input. I' . . . . CHANHASSEN PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT 690 COULTER DRIVE CHANHASSEN. MN 55317 PHONE: 837.1900 PROGRAM EVALUATION In order to better serve our participants in our recreation programs. we ask that you take a few minutes to answer the following questions. and give us your suggestions. Thank you! Program Title: .A (1\ ,-,cl-; ~ /:,' '.~ Session/Time: I ~ - I . ::r ~ cr.. f 1"-1 Date:' .',:", / 'I Participant is a: Child Teen . ~ (PJease circle one) ( I / I I .// I location of Program: .(. '~ .'. ,,*..-L-.'- '-h'~..- ~..( ("C' ~. Excellent Good Averaae ' Fair Poor (Please Circle) . Overall impression of the program / 1: 2 3 4 5 ------ .- Program location l' 2 3 4 5. ~/ Program Time G..: 2 3 4 5 Program length .1 ) 2 3 4 5 '- ".-' - Class Organization (t.' 2 3 4 5 " - Instructor (y 2 3 4 5 What did you/your child like most about this program?~~ 1~/'-..8~ ~ l-^/~ " I" .~ ',.(' What improvements could be made to better this program? j""':;, (.> Ie 1 I '- . (over) Do you have any suggestions or ideas for future programs? Additional comments: The Chanhassen Park and Recreation Department is always looking for program ideas, and instructors willing to teach. If you have a special talent, or would be willing to teach a future class, please give us your idea with your name, address, and phone number below. Again, thank you for your input. .. . . . . CHANHASSEN PARKS AND RECREAnON DEPARTMENT 690 COULTER DRIVE CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 PHONE: 937-1900 PROGRAM EVALUATION In order to better serve our participants in our recreation programs, we ask that you take a few minutes to answer the following questions, and give us your suggestions. Thank you! ~. 0 ~ ~ i_ I Program Title: '--"'.fr':W_.(;rj.-.,o/t." ~ }.t;!j SessionfTime: ID' t. I ", " ,r - J ,1 J_' (:1 ,.) . -J Date: I/.-'~' , " I , I /'~ I~ ~.~ /~~ _.-....:..:.-.' "\ I Participant is a: /Child_ '7 Teen - Aduri .--/ ~ (Please circle one) Location of Program: , \ \ . I ' ,'-,. ,-' -" Excellent Good Averaae Fair Poor (Please Circle) . Overall impression of the program 1 2 3 4 5 ~ -- Program Location 1 i 2 3 4 5 Program Time 11 2 3 4 5 Program Length 1 2 3 4 5 Class Organization 1 . 2 3 4 5 Instructor . 1 /' 2 3 4 5 What 9id you/y~ur child like most ~bout this program?~' i ,.' .J.-- J~ ,I! " ,I :",. ~ ~J.,. 4 I }~-:; ( ~",,.., ,;1'.,/' _ ,/~" "" . / . . -:,. 7,. -4- . ...... '., I ,. What improvements could be made to better this program? I V'L r,(:-:"..:;. (,' t' :' ..l- ~. :.~ . r ::.J . \ "') . . (over) Do you have any suggestions or ideas for future programs? W ( r'Y'~ c.,tP ;X-~~~f ~~ ~_'l'_~~ ~P /J /J -+./ ,/ Additional comments: [1'1 A/~ 1/.// r"t ~"j d --I.. - The Chanhassen Park and Recreation Department is always looking for program ideas, and instructors willing to teach. 11 you have a special talent, or would be willing to teach a future class, please give us your idea with your name. address. and phone number below. Again, thank you for your input. ./ . . . I ' I I . . . CHANHASSEN PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT 690 COULTER DRIVE CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 PHONE: 937-1900 PROGRAM EVALUATION In order to better serve our participants in our recreation programs. we ask that you take a few minutes to answer the following questions. and give us your suggestions. Thank you! Program Title: C~ t!~ ~ SessionITime: /-,3 ~./Y7. What did you/your child like most about this program? ~~ ~ Ad'/ What improvements could be made to better this program? ~ ~ (over) Do you have any suggestions or ideas for future programs? Additional comments: . if,; ~ hH.. . . ~ ,,~,~~ 6- The Chanhassen Park and Recreation Department is always looking for program ideas, and instructors willing to teach. If you have a special talent, or would be willing to teach a future class, please give us your idea with your name, address. and phone number below. Again, thank you for your input. .' . . . I ,1 . CHANHASSEN PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT 690 COULTER DRIVE CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 PHONE: 137-1100 PROGRAM EVALUATION In order to better serve our participants in our recreation programs. we ask that you take a few minutes to answer the following questions. and give us your suggestions. Thank you! Program Title: C ~5:5 -COtlff_;r S~ Sessionmme: J - 3 Date: ! - i - ff/ Participant is a: ~ Teen Adutt (Please circle one) Location of Program: Se/!;Pr Ce;;.kr Excellent Good Averaae Fair Poor (Please Circle) .. Overall impression of the program (j) Program Location 1 Program Time 6) Program Length 1 Class Organization 6) Instructor 0 What did you/your child like most about this program? 2 3 4 5 (j) 3 4 5 2 3 4 5 @ 3 4 5 2 3 4 5 2 3 4 5 .... me do rJJ () !J r I ( tf)v+ ( , - What iQ1provements could be made to better this program? Ren J (,~ -CDfl/Jff7L-. -trc\ \ )-s (1 . (over) Do you have any SUg~estions or ideas for future programs? ;1lprP_ c 0 url~J -fro ( ~ r r05S- Additional comments: ( T+ IJ.JOvSt . IIl1}t 3 oDd. Cf- FUN: The Chanhassen Park and Recreation Department is always looking for program ideas, and instructors willing to teach. If you have a special talent, or would be willing to teach a future class, please give us your idea with your name, address, and phone number below. Again, thank you for your input. . . I I I . . CHANHASSEN PARKS AND RECREAnON DEPARTMENT 690 COULTER DRIVE CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 PHONE: 937.1900 PROGRAM EVALUATION In order to better serve our participants in our recreation programs, we ask that you take a few minutes to answer the following questions, and give us your suggestions. Thank you! Program Title: (} r4.CS ~(//., 4/ (' r, SessionITime: I - 3 P Participant is a: Child Teen @ X 2 (Please circle one) Date: 1- ';20; r 'i LJ location of Program: "1 ' ( ! - --- " .. ,/ "" \ ! " ,'0 , !' , t.: :', ~ ~^':"".~.~..," ~, Excellent Good Averaae Fair Poor (Please Circle) . Overall impression of the program ,,-.- '--, 2 3 4 5 ! 1 ,I '. - ..."..-/ Program Location 1 2 3 4 5 \_~:::;.....-_. Program Time ; 1. 2 3 4 5 '"-_:'"";"'-" Program Length 1 2 3 4 5 ...---.... Class Organization 0) 2 3 4 5 Instructor V 2 3 4 5 What did y'ou/your child like most about this program? &~ ~ rL~,C'-4.'L . f.v "" c.Qr( ..t:0 What imp~~vemer:tts could be made t~ better,this program? A. \ \~ w t.''''-~ '\ t~. 6-DJi t? ro.-; '. ",! -'. .:' .'~. ~ .~' \"..J.~ J ,.. "--!'ftr.;, . ~ , , \ . (over) Mev k f!t1f. f Do YOl:' have any sug,gestions or ideas f~r Mure .., .".', ~~) ..1.:.,... l L{ .c, ~ 04 Additional comments: C.- vJ f1 Lr .LA7''1.2 .I...-r. ., / . , I The Chanhassen Park and Recreation Department is always looking for program ideas, and instructors willing to teach. If you have a special talent, or would be willing to teach a future class, please give us your idea with your name, address, and phone number below. Again, thank you for your input. . . . .