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1993 02 23 Agenda FILE e AGENDA CHANHASSEN PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION TUESD! Y, FEBRUARY 23, 1993, 7:30 P.M. CHANHASSEN CITY HALL, 690 COULTER DRIVE CALL TO ORDER 1. Approval of January 26, 1993, Park and Recreation Commission Minutes. 2. Visitor Presentations. 3. Neighborhood Meeting, Power Hill Park. 4. Land Development Proposal, Pr~liminary Plat, Lake Susan Hills 9th Addition: Argus Development 18133 Cedar Avenue South Farmington, MN 55024 5. Land Development Proposal, Preliminary Plat, Windmill Run, Michael Klingelhutz Property: e The Rottlund Company 5201 East River Road, Suite 301 Fridley, MN 55421 6. Land Development Proposal, Site Plan Review, Technical Industrial Sales: Mark Undestad Eden Trace Corporation 1057 Stoughton Avenue Chaska, MN 55318 7. Approve 1993 Picnic Reservation Fees. 8. Approve 1993 4th of July Fireworks Contract. 9. Administrative Presentations: a. b. c. d. e e. Teen Night Out Evaluation Ski Trips Evaluation Winter Program Update Entertainment Complex, Verbal Upcoming City Council/Park and Recreation Commission Goals Meeting, Verbal . 10. Commission Member Presentations. e 11. Work Session, Recreation Section of the Comprehensive Plan. 12. Administrative Packet. It e e CHANHASSEN PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING JANUARY 26, 1993 Chairman Schroers called the meeting to order at 7:32 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: Fred Berg, Jim Manders, Jim Andrews, Ron Roeser, Larry Schroers, Dave Koubsky, and Jan Lash STAFF PRESENT: Todd Hoffman, Park and Rec Coordinator; Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation Supervisor; and Dawn Lemme, Program Specialist APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Koubsky moved, Lash seconded to approve the Minutes of the Park and Recreation Commission meeting dated December 15, 1992 as presented. All voted in favor and the motion carried. WELCOME NEW COMMISSION MEMBERS: RON ROESER AND JIM MANDERS. Chairman Schroers introduced the new members to the rest of the Commission. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS: e Hoffman: Commission members, the Visitor Presentation item which you have before you tonight is just an informational item. On occasion throughout each year staff receives question, inquiries, and things that we just at staff's discretion cannot approve. Thus they should come down to the Park Commission for some type of discussion prior to making a motion or taking action on those items. As such I recommend that we establish a monthly visitor Presentation portion of your agenda to allow for me to invite those types of people making inquiries and invite them down to the Commission meeting so they can discuss that with you. Schroers: Very good. Seems pretty simple. Does someone want to make a recommendation to that end? Lash: I move that we add to our agenda, monthly agenda, Visitor Presentations. Andrews: Second. Lash moved, Andrews seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission add Visitor Presentations item to their future agendas. All voted in favor and the motion carried. ORGANIZATIONAL ITEMS: A. SELECTION OF CHAIRPERSON AND VICE-CHAIRPERSON. e Hoffman: Commissioners, you can take each of these items as they appear. Selection of Chairperson and Vice-Chairperson. Nominations can be made open on the floor. Discussion can ensure and the election of officers should be taken care of this evening. Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 2 Andrews: I'd like to nominate Larry for Chairman. He's done a good jobe Lash: I'll second that. Andrews: Would you be willing to serve again? Schroers: Yes. Okay, thank you for the nomination. Andrews moved, Lash seconded to appoint Larry Schroers as Chairman of the Park and Recreation Commission for 1993. All voted in favor and the motion carried. Schroers: Okay, then as Vice-Chair I'll make a recommendation for Jim Andrews as Vice-Chair. Koubsky: Second that. Schroers moved, Koubsky seconded to appoint 3im Andrews as Vice-Chairman of the Park and Recreation Commission for 1993. All voted in favor and the motion carried. B. ADOPT RULES OF CONDUCT. Hoffman: Rules of conduct officially are Roberts Rules of Order as revised. I'm sure you've all read them clearly before this evening's meeting so you have no concerns. ~ Lash: I move we adopt or continue operating under Roberts Rules of Order Revised. Schroers: I'll second that. Lash moved, Schroers seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission conduct their meetings according to Roberts Rules of Order Revised. All voted in favor and the motion carried. C. 1993 MEETING DATES AND TIMES. Schroers: Is there a conflict with the schedule we're on now? Hoffman: Fourth Tuesday? Schroers: Yeah. Hoffman: No. None whatsoever. That calendar which appears there indicates the fourth Tuesday on all months. There are no conflicts in 1993 except obviously for the December meeting to move it up to the second Tuesday. Lash: I just want to throw this out to people. I guess I'm open to either way but the month of November, that ends up being the Tuesday before Thanksgiving and generally the elementary schools have conference~ those 2 days. And I don't know if High School does too but it could be a conflict for me. It could be for Fred. And it could be for anyone who Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 3 e has kids. A lot of times people leave early then for the long weekend. I guess if I had my druthers, I'd rather see it moved up a week to the 16th. Or back a week to the 30th, but then it gets really close to the December 14th. Koubsky: I guess I'd agree with moving it to the 16th. In the workplace, I think we have both those days off so that will be kind of kids day. Hoffman: No problem. Lash: I move that we adopt the 1993 meeting dates as amended for November. Koubsky: Second. Lash moved, Koubsky seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission adopt the 1993 meeting dates as amended, moving the November meeting date to November 16, 1993. All voted in favor and the motion carried. D. ATTENDANCE AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. Andrews: I wanted to ask Todd about this City Council schedule, which was also attached to this scheduling. I guess that's the next item, item (d). Pardon me. e Schroers: meetings. So yeah, the next item is attendance at the City Council Go ahead with your question Jim. Andrews: My question was, although I hold those days open, typically I don't attend unless I'm told that there's something of park interest on the agenda. Unless I just decide to attend. Can we continue to operate under that method? This year it was pretty much as needed. Hoffman: I simply put on the bottom, the Commission can decide as a group what policy they would like to use for following this. Whether it be mandatory attendance, voluntarily or at my call or encouragement to attend the meeting since only when there are issues of importance to the Commission on the City Council agenda. Lash: I'd prefer to do it by notification. And if by chance you notified one of us at our scheduled time and we for some reason couldn't make it, I'd like to know that we could fall back on each other. Schroers: I think basically it's a continuation of what we had been doing. That's the way we had it set up that we were going to be notified in turn when there was a park and rec related item at the Council meeting, and has there been a problem with that? e Hoffman: No problem. Schroers: Yeah, I'd prefer just to go like that and have some sort of formal notification as a reminder. Okay. do you need a motion to that effect? Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 4 Hoffman: Not necessarily, no. e Schroers: Okay, good. Then that will conclude organizational items. PHEASANT HILL PARK MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT; NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. Hoffman: Chairman Schroers and Commissioners. This item was reviewed at your last meeting, December 15th. At that time staff discussed the proposed changes to the master plan of Pheasant Hill Park. Upon completing discussion that evening it was the Commission's wish to have staff prepare a letter to the residents of the Pheasant Hill neighborhood explaining to them this proposed plan amendment to the master plan for Pheasant Hill Park. Asked for their input into that proposed change. Invite them to their meeting this evening to hear their comments and then move forward with the decision in this regard. Briefly, I'll run down again to refresh your memory what is being proposed. This is the original park master concept plan. As you know the park is essentially split into two halves. The southern half being a wetland area with wetland vegetation in this area. The north half had been slated for improvements for active recreation facilities. In 1992 was to be the year for initial grading, initial construction beginning the park. It didn't look like that was going to occur because of the lack of time available both through our park maintenance staff and a lack of material or black dirt and fill to begin this project. However when Target came on line, a source of free fill, free labor and trucks to haul that...Cat and a front end loader at no charge from Ryan Construction who is working on the Target site... ~ upgrading possible this fall and that was completed by October. So what'" we have today on this site is a construction limit from approximately this point to the west for this entire area being filled... As we were working the field it became apparent that in order to accommodate this tennis court area, some mature trees down in this line right through here, some ash trees of about 10 to 14 inches in diameter, approximately 7 of them, would have to be cut in order to accommodate that tennis court or we would have to take down trees on this side of the tennis court. Severe retaining wall... It is also recognizeable that this entire top area, it currently is undisturbed and is very nice and natural portion of that park to give you a nice...open space...and in order to accommodate this playfield or this play equipment area as depicted, you would have to go up there as well... As such, we brought back our consultant, VanDoren, Hazard, Stallings to look at an amendment to the plan. Essentially as stated in the staff report in the letter to the residents, the intent of which is to minimize the impact to the vegetation in the area. And then the other thing...tennis court which could be a concern to some of the residents in the area. That that reduces a lot of hard court surface... takes out a lot of fencing for a small neighborhood park. It just takes away the issue of accessibility to...community recreation structure such as a tennis court. As you see on this plan, the only thing missing from the active portion of the park is the tennis court. We brought the play structure down off the top of this hill thus allowing this portion of the park to remain undisturbed. Putting the play area down here so these trees that are in this line do not have to be disturbed. They can remai~ .. .play structure in this area. Then I felt it was important to retain ... least some park board elements within the park...you can bounce a ball on a hard court surface...so instead of putting a tennis court in this area, e e e Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 5 we brought a half court basketball court.. .playfield involving. Again we need to move forward with some type of decision on this proposed plan amendment so this coming spring we can move forward with the continuation of the development of Pheasant Hill Park. Plans are currently that in house the park maintenance crews will move into the park in the spring. Do finish grading. Look for complete compaction if we have some areas that are poorly compacted. Finish grading, seed and install the bituminous walkway. Then as your 1993 CIP reflects, '93 will be a growing year for the grass in Pheasant Hill Park and then we'll come forth in 1994 with the facility development, most likely the play area. Schroers: Okay. In order to simplify this a little bit, do you feel that it would be accurate to say that basically what we've done is traded a tennis court to salvage a number of nice trees? Basically the trade-off is we're dropping the tennis court in favor of saving the vegetation? Hoffman: Correct. And then the other half of the equation is that we've also struggled with the accessibility issue to that tennis court. Originally parking was proposed to come in off of Wood Duck Lane. That has since been deleted so we don't have a real viable access to a tennis court other than walk-ins, or parking on street and then walking to the tennis court. As Commission members are aware, a tennis court is a regional facility. They're expensive to both construct and maintain, and they service more than a single neighborhood so people will get in their car, more times than not, and drive to a tennis court and get out to play their match. Schroers: Okay, very good. I think at this point we'd be interested in hearing what any residents in attendance may have to say. Is there anyone in the audience here this evening that would like to speak? Please come UP and state your name and address. Carol Droegemueller: My name is Carol Droegemueller. I live in Pheasant Hill and I'm very happy to be here at this stage of the planning. I called Todd as soon as the trucks started bringing the dirt in and I said, hip, hip, hurray. It's been a long time waiting to get this park going so I'm really happy. However, I do have some concerns with the new revisions. I had a difficult time determining, even tonight looking at the two plans because they're the same pictures that I have on our letter, where the trees are. I walked the park this morning and it looks to me like neither the original or the new concept have the trees in their spot. Is that right Todd? Is this new concept where the trees are or is that an artist's rendition of what it might look like later? Hoffman: Correct. Resident: So that's not existing vegetation? Carol Droegemueller: No. No it is not. Hoffman: You'd notice that in your other plans as well. You've heard comments in the same regard. The master plan include a depiction of what vegetation may look like in the future. Not what is existing. Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 6 Berg: Where are those 10 trees that you said would be cut? e Hoffman: There are approximately 7 trees and they're right along this side of the... Berg: Those would have to be cut to accommodate a tennis court? Hoffman: A tennis court, correct. Carol Droegemueller: If the court was placed there? I mean I looked at the original plan and it seemed to use the northern part of the park nicely. We have about 10 acres in this piece of property and about 5 acres are usable for park. Is that right? About half of it because half of it is wetland. And now it's even going to be less than that 5 because it's all being squashed over to the west. I didn't go all the way in when I looked at it today and I really should have maybe gone when you said you were going to go over there with the graders that day and walked it with you. It looked to me as though there was a lot of open space and flat area through in there. I am disappointed that the tennis court would take precedent over some of, for one thing I guess I looked at the trees and I'm all for saving trees but this is a park that we're building and not, and it's a park for neighborhood use. I look at the tennis court as something very valuable in there. It would be part of a nice park. We have no tennis courts to get to by bike from our neighborhood at all. We can get into a car, like Todd described, but the Chaparrel is over a mile away. And MIS is the other one. They'd be the nearest ones and they're~ probably half a mile. But they're crossing TH 41 and CR 117 to get to ~ either of those two parks. Curry Farms has a park slated which is down the road from this park and they have no tennis courts slated in there either. There's two neighborhood parks that will not have that feature. And I think it's valuable. Do you want me to just say everything that, all my thought right now? Or do you want to respond? Schroers: We need to know them all before we can make a reasonable decision. Carol Droegemueller: Okay. As listed in the letter that we received, tennis was rated, there was a survey taken, oh I'm not really sure of the timeframe but maybe 2 years ago in the initial stages. I have a couple thoughts about that. I think this park's going to be there long after the initial residents who were polled for what they wanted in that park. And not necessarily that everything that they want should be in there, but volleyball is going to, according to this plan, will stay and that was ranked after tennis on this, in terms of square footage and use. You only need a couple people to play tennis and you need more than a few to play volleyball. I really think that a park that would have, I guess I'm not convinced about the not being able to build on the east side of that northern section for the play area. When we first talked about it, it looked like it would be a really neat area for a play area because it would be nestled among the trees. Now I didn't get over there. I only walked in the path coming in Wood Duck which is on the top of the screen there. It's a bituminous, it's drawn as a bituminous trail. I came in e through that way so I didn't get to walk in all the way over there. In the letter it also talked about not wanting a chainlink fence. I'm not Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 7 e sure what your rational is for that. I don't have any objection to that. I'm sure it's cost. I'm sure that the tennis court is more costly than maybe not having it up of course. And I want a clarification of the American Disabilities Act. This is directed towards tennis courts and not toward play areas and things like that? I mean do you have to have access to everything in your park? Hoffman: Correct. Carol Droegemueller: Everything in your park needs to have access according to this new? Okay. And the fact that the tennis court would have cyclone fencing around it is the impediment there? Hoffman: No, it's the distance from the parking availability. Any tennis courts we currently maintain need to be retrofitted to allow access, uniform access and there needs to be reasonable capabilities for parking. Carol Droegemueller: And then how does that change the play area then? The play area is in there in the same area where the tennis court was going to be and it's not any closer to a parking area. Hoffman: Correct. It's not any closer. Accommodations will be made to the play area similar to the tennis court to allow for... e Carol Droegemueller: It's still, I mean if you were going to allow access to everything, then the whole thing could be wiped out couldn't it? If you're going to follow that. Hoffman: Well again, it's based on reasonableness and in the context of the tennis court, it's one of the things.. .not the highest priority reason. Again, the preservation of the vegetation in my opinion is... e Carol Droegemueller: Well, I thought as I read this. You know this is, I don't know. I read in the letter 5 trees. Now I hear 7 tonight, ash trees, but I don't hear of trees stopping commercial and private industry construction in Chanhassen. I'm sure you didn't stop the Target development because of 5 mature trees. This is a park that I see trees being replaceable in this environment and growing up around the areas that you maybe had to destroy to get started the park but we have three wet outlots in that development, all gone to natural vegetation and that satisfied the Park and Rec, years and years ago when that development was going and it didn't do anything in terms of recreational park use for the neighborhood and at this time I would like you to consider recreational park use rather than natural vegetation because it's already been chosen once. And now to choose it again and leaves us with, I guess I'd like to keep our options open. I'd like the design of the park. I realize these are expensive things and I'm delighted that the open field is there first because I'll be the first to admit 1 have broken windows on my side of my house from the baseball that's going on on the side yard but I would like the plan to be flexible and future oriented and able to put these things in later if the money is there to do that, and not close off those options. And also I'd like to point out that 1 thought the parking was coming off of Lake Lucy Lane in the original concept and not off of Wood Duck. It's never been intended to come in off of Wood Duck. That was a Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 8 neighborhood access, if I'm not mistaken. And the parking was down on t~ south end of the park. Off of Lake Lucy Lane. The neighborhood was never intended on having any parking up in there, which is where the most of the park is. Hoffman: Correct. The neighborhood never had the intention because it was undesireable but, as Carol stated, all of the active components are there. That easement which comes in off of Wood Duck, under the original plan for the development of this parcel would have been a road to access those homes. As such it made sense to bring in the parking, an access road to the parking and a parking lot off of that. Off of Wood Duck Lane. Neighborhood resistence was there. The discussion centered around putting on street parking on the Lake Lucy Lane. That was not very desireable. It finally ended up, as you can see on this plan, with the parking lot being proposed down in this side. Again, it ended up on the plan. It's not highly desireable. I would not recommend that we move forward with it's construction. Number one, due to the fact that if a person was going to access the park to participate in some type of activity, they would most likely park on Wood Duck and walk a short distance to the playfield or another component of the park. And secondly, would require a great deal of grading and fill down in that area and it would require the cutting of this entire hillside of trees here to accommodate that grading. Schroers: I think we'd have a problem with the ADA access from that location also. Hoffman: Distance, yes. e Schroers: Okay. Are there any other residents or interested parties that would like to speak on behalf of Pheasant Hills? Okay. Thank you very much for all your information and we'll see what we can do with it. Do we have any particular thoughts from Commissioners? I mean the implication that I'm receiving here is that at least one person from Pheasant Hills is very much in favor of keeping the tennis court in the plan. Lash: Well and I don't have a problem I guess with keeping out options open in the future but I just want to back up I guess a little bit on this whole plan because I really feel like there's been a pretty good give and take going on with the residents and the Park and Rec Commission over the years. I think initially we started out with nothing. There was no park, and I feel like we took advantage of an opportunity to get this and that was something that was going to make that neighborhood happy and it did cost us a considerable amount of money. And we thought at that time it would be years and years and years before we'd even be able to develop it because we spent so much money on the property, but now with the Target development and different things, we've been able to try and push that schedule forward a little bit. I'm glad to see that and I'm sure the residents are too. And initially we had, I think the plan did show parking off of Wood Duck and we had a neighborhood meeting and the neighborhood was not happy with that idea. So we made the concession and put it off of Lake Lucy. Then we had to go back on that one because the~ soil conditions and the topography was such that it just wasn't a viable~ option for us anymore so we went back to the Wood Duck and then we had another meeting with the residents and at that point then it was either no e e e Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 9 parking or parking off of Wood Duck and I felt like we made a concession there that we would just skip the parking if we had to. And we have been talking in the last year about a change in the whole philosophy of tennis courts in the city parks. In respect to their cost. They are the most expensive item that we can put in initially, and as Todd said, to maintain. So the Commission has taken a stand somewhat to try to slide away from putting tennis courts in neighborhood parks and keeping them in community parks. So in some of our newer plans that we've been doing, we have not been putting tennis courts in because of those factors. So I think that has something to do with what brought up this whole deal of removing it from the plan. And with the new preservation of the Tree Board and the feeling in the community of trying to preserve as much vegetation, as many mature trees as we can, that had a little something to do with it. I'm just trying to give you some history as to where we're coming from on this Carol so that you maybe can. ..but I think when we put that all together, and Curry Farms originally had a tennis court in there and the soil conditions aren't, we've heard anyway that the soil conditions aren't conducive to a tennis court there. So that's why that's gotten out of that one. We know that leaves that area short in that recreational facility but a lot of, most neighborhoods don't have tennis courts. Most neighborhood parks do not have tennis courts. And if we want to leave it open, I don't have a problem with that, but I honestly can say to you that you and I would probably be so old before tennis, we had the money to put a tennis court in there, that we would not have the opportunity to enjoy it. So we can leave the plan open, but boy I just don't know when we'd ever have the money to ever go back and put it in. And that's a sad fact but I think that is a fact, and I don't know how else to say it to you. Schroers: Well it really came about when we were going through our Capital Improvement Program for the 1993 year. In order to complete and accomplish some of the things that seemed to be more urgently needed, other things have to be cut and put on back burners or on layaway and I also believe that you maybe are not aware but the first formal meeting of the Chanhassen Tree Board is this coming Thursday and they are going to be very aggressive concerning any native, mature, hardwood tree in the city and if it comes to a tennis court versus losing 4, 7 or 10, whatever nice ash trees, that's going to be a whole not her political process to negotiate in order to get something accomplished and that's going to take additional time. And they're going to take a very strong stance at not losing any trees so it's going to be a tough issue there. Jim. Andrews: I just wanted to kind of go a little deeper on the statement Jan made about our change in philosophy about tennis courts in neighborhood parks versus community parks. That is something we've talked about over the last year. I think we, as a commission, feel obligated that if we are going to provide tennis courts, we must also provide parking access and I think that the way this park is situated, surround a neighborhood and some of the resistance we're getting from the parking concerns, that we felt we were in p no win situation and I certainly would say that if tennis courts were something we felt we had to go forward with, then I would be very insistent that the parking be provided right by the court that the people are going to drive to use it. I think it's always nice to have a park for a private neighborhood type of a use but that's not really the intent of Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 10 parks in our city, especially when they provide a community wide piece o~ equipment or a tennis court or whatever. So I think in being consistent with that philosphy that we adopted really last year, I would say that we're following along and following it through on our plan to not have tennis courts into the smaller neighborhood parks that don't provide easy and adequate parking. We have some larger neighborhood parks that even with, you have 20 plus parking spaces, are more than full when they're combining a play area and a tennis court so it's a problem that you have to deal with and deal with fairly for all people that want to use it. So I think to be realistic, I would say that tennis courts are unlikely to happen here. Koubsky: Todd what is, if a tennis court doesn't go into this park as we proposed, what's the closest tennis court to that area? Carol Droegemueller: In that area it would be at MIS.. .on the corner of TH 41 and TH 7. There's two courts back in there that from our neighborhood is about half a mile as the crow flies. You have to go out on TH 41...to get there. Koubsky: Most in that area up there, there's quite a bit of undeveloped land also isn't there? I don't know if there's large lots. Hoffman: Once you go to the west of Galpin. Koubsky: I guess my thoughts is, I do know there's a Tree Board. I sid~ with Carol in long term plannings and if, I'm not an advocate of tearing down trees. Nobody would say they were. I have seen, since being on this Board, an awful lot of maple trees having to give way for housing developments. 5 or 6 ash trees for a potential park plan that's going to service the community to be is reasonable. Now we are trying to move out of neighborhood tennis courts basically because of their expense. In this original plan we did propose, or have an option to put one there and I'm not one for going back on our options. I certainly don't oppose changing concepts in midstream when new information is brought to light and running that past residents who are concerned and what not. But at least in the original plan we have an option, and the city is open to options. If maybe not 5 or 10 years but maybe 15 years, as the city develops, how are we going to, and the city becomes more capital rich possibly and there's more political demands for tennis courts around the areas. How are we going to come up with options at that point without creating a new park? There's an alternative here that I'd just like to throw out. Half court basketball does provide hard court surfaces, and it is active. I'm not opposed to removing trees and I would suggest that we, for the time being grade this where we could have potential to put a tennis court in here if we so desire. Again, we have our option. But instead maybe initially, due to cost, put a basketball court in there. A half court basketball. Something we could more readily afford. Schroers: We have basketball is in there. Lash: It was in the first one too. e Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 11 e Koubsky: Yeah, but if we go to the original plan and eliminate our options for a tennis court. Lash: Well, if you go to the new plan and want to leave a tennis court as an option in there, it could still be just north of the half court basketball court couldn't it? It would require taking a couple of trees down but if in the end that's what we wanted to do, we could do it right? Koubsky: So we have two issues. We have a play area issue that has to be moved. Or that may not have to be moved. That's being proposed on a new plan to be moved. And then we have an issue of, do we keep options open for the future to go ahead with the tennis court if the area demands it, or do we decide here that no. These types of parks will not have tennis courts. Andrews: I think you have to talk about parking with tennis courts. I don't feel it's fair to put a tennis court up in a neighborhood without parking. Koubsky: Well we're also, and later on in this Minutes, we're proposing to have softball games in neighborhoods that don't have parking. Tennis courts are 2 to 4 people. Softball games, we're talking about having teams of players go into neighborhoods without any parking and utilize softball fields so that. e Lash: You know, and there is on street parking on Wood Duck. To me I don't have a problem with someone parking on Wood Duck and walking in on the trail to use the tennis court. If they don't want to walk that far, they p,obably shouldn't be playing tennis in the first place. Andrews: I guess I would say then. Lash: What I have a problem with is the amount of money that would be put into a neighborhood park that we just don't have and we can't do it. You know maybe down the road, I don't have a problem with leaving ou, options open and I don't even know with the new plan that that's really shutting off ou, options and that's not saying it's definitely going to go in there. All we're saying is, in the future, like Dave said, someday if the magic fai,y flies over Chan and drops a bush loads of money and we want to put a tennis court in every neighborhood park, we can. But you know, I don't see that happening in the near future anyway. But at least we would have that open here if we wanted to. And I don't necessarily agree Jim that it means that you have to have a parking lot in there. I understand what you're saying, I just don't necessarily agree with it. e Be,g: My concern is economic too. It's an area maybe we're not touching on yet and that's the impact that the cost of a tennis court is going to have on the play area. We're talking 1994 now in terms of getting play equipment. My sense is that if we spent what it cost to put in a tennis cou,t, that that date would be pushed back considerably in terms of being able to budget in the equipment that we need. My other sense is that there would probably be a greater need in terms of numbe, of residents using a play area than there would be the tennis court. I have no scientific data to back that up at all. I don't even know the demographics Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 12 of the neighborhood, etc. but my sense is that we'd great deal in terms of the play area if we invested which as Jan's saying, we don't have anyway. be sacr if ici ng qui te. that kind of money, Lash: Well and it would be, in most of our neighborhood parks, we end up with a time line where we do Phase 1 and that's play equipment. Then 2 years later we put in the basketball court and then 2 years later we put in something else. With the amount of money that a tennis court costs, the tennis court is always Phase 14 or something because we just never have that amount of money to plunk into a neighborhood park without depriving other areas in town of something that they want too. So I don't know that it would deprive the play area, because that's going to be the first think to go in no matter what but the tennis court is going to be, would be many, many, many, many years down the road. Berg: I would support the idea too of leaving it open. I don't want to create unrealistic expectations though in terms of when that money is going to be there to be able to do it. Schroers: We had some rough figures but a tennis court basically starts at $40,000.00 and goes up from there depending on how much grading has to be done and the soil underneath. Hoffman: That would be high. A double court will cost you in excess of $25,000.00. A single court will come in at around $15,000.00. e Schroers: That's considering, start to finish? Hoffman: Essentially on a relatively flat site. With no soil corrections. Lash: Other than the tennis court, was there some other reason, did I miss it for moving the play area from up on the hill down by the fence? Hoffman: The play area, if you're familiar with the park. If you took a walk from the original concept plan where that play area is down to the open playfield, you would be removed and the play apparatus would be quite remote. In this original plan to alleviate that problem it was proposed that much of that area would be groomed out. It would be cleared out. Grubbed out, cleared and maintained in a mowed fashion. Obviously if yoU do not have to do that, you allow yourself to keep the natural lay of the land as it is. You get away from some construction costs and from the future maintenance costs of parks, which in a traditional sense everybody recognizes but which I think not only Chanhassen but the State, other cities and then our national scale, people are beginning to recognize parks are not just mowed green surfaces. They are much more than that. Lash: So if we went with the new concept, is there a way that we can keep the option open of putting a tennis court in between where the trail runs and the half court basketball court. Hoffman: You would need to construct the tennis court in a somewhat e perpendicular fashion. Or incorporate the, you would have to construct it, this is the long way. Or incorporate this half court basketball into Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 13 e it and fit it into this configuration, which would be much more desireable. Lash: But that is an option? Hoffman: Sure. Lash: Okay. Hoffman: Sure. Again, I should clarify both for the Commission and the members of the audience the reason why this change in concept is important. As we worked through the grading process with the park maintenance and street maintenance crews, they want to get the rough grading. Any clearing, grubbing, tree cutting out of the way and match that to a park master plan which the city feels the park will eventually look like. It's also important so as we go through this process of educating the neighborhood and as they begin to create perceptions of what that park is going to look like, that that perception is accurate. So that is the simple reason. I certainly have no problem with keeping our options open with labeling a ghost tennis court on here somewhere in a dotted line, if that's what you choose. e Andrews: I'm willing to be flexible so I think we ought to consider having the finish grade follow on the.. .access with the half court basketball so we would extend that area to a tennis court is necessary. I guess I think we could have a multi-use surface that we could provide a basketball hoop on that also could have a tennis court net put on it at some later time and added so, can I put this in a motion? Schroers: I like that idea. I think we'd be ill advised to close any doors and it's also adviseable to make the best use of the active space that's available and by incorporating a tennis court, or the potential of a tennis court in on top of the half court basketball, thereby getting maximum use out of the area makes a lot of sense to me. Andrews: Okay. I'd like to move that we adopt the new concept plan with the addition of the finish grade to allow enough flat area for the half court basketball to be extended to a tennis court at some future date, if we chose to do so. Schroers: Is there a second to that motion? Lash: I'll second that? Andrews moved, Lash seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission adopt the new Haster Park Plan for Pheasant Hills Park with the addition of the finish grading to allow enough flat area for the half court basketball to be extended into a tennis court at some future date. All voted in favor and the motion carried. e Schroers: Thank you very much for coming and showing your interest. I hope that this somewhat explains the situation and hopefully will meet some of our needs and expediate the process towards getting the groundwork going in place. Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 14 Carol Droegemueller: May I just make a comment? e Schroers: Sure. Carol Droegemueller: I have just a couple comments. One is, when Todd and I first started discussing the options of having a park here, and I got all excited about the topography of this land and it lended itself to being kind of a unique park because of it's topography. When I saw the first plan, or the revision I wondered how we got to the first one. If a park designer could put all those things in all those places in the first one, why all of a sudden with the revision they couldn't work when they had the topography then but. I'm initially disappointed that we're not spreading out into that space and taking advantage of the unique topography for the play area and the other things that. It doesn't have to be just a mowed area of grass like Todd described flat, and this is really a unique setting so I would like to see us be creative here and not necessarily, not that I want you to spend a whole bunch of ton more money because it has to be cleared but that area, I'm not sure doesn't lend itself for the totlot too. I mean it's not a big space. The distance from going from the bituminous trail to where the totlot is planned to going up a little further and maybe changing the configuration of the trail is very small. And my second thought is that, as a resident here in Chanhassen, I cannot provide for my family and the neighborhood kids' certain recreational activities but the City of Chanhassen can and those include tennis and basketball and volleyball and things like that that I~ cannot provide them personally in my yard. I can provide a totlot or ~ swingset or park bench or picnic area you know, I can do that at my house. But I cannot do the other things and I would strongly encourage you to consider that in terms of neighborhood park and community park. As Jim described, a neighborhood park becomes a community park in an eyelash. It just does because people are using it and use it for the things that yoU can't provide in your own backyard. That's all I guess I have to say. Thank you. Schroers: Okay. The motion has been made and passed on the Pheasant Hill Park Master Plan and the amendment. Is there any further discussion on that at this time? Lash: I guess I just have one question. Todd, because I'm always a strong proponent of making sure that everyone who was interested knows. It says that a letter was mailed to the residents adjoining within 500 feet. Now I'm assuming that was everyone also who came to any of the neighborhood meetings. That we have a list of them and it wasn't just a handful of people but everybody who's interested would have heard about this meeting. Hoffman: Correct. And it's not only just the people within 500 feet. Over the process of reviewing this park, we've established a much larger mailing list which incorporates all the folks up and down Lake Lucy Lane. Lash: So it was all of those people. e Schroers: Now we've had the entire room filled. e e e Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 15 Lash: Right, and that's why I wanted to make sure that they all were aware of what was going on and it wasn't just the abutting property owners. Hoffman: Correct. LAND DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL. PRELIMINARY PLAT. BOLEY PROPERTY. LUNDGREN BROTHERS CONSTRUCTION. Hoffman: Chairman Schroers, Commissioners. This is a land development proposal. Preliminary plat to subdivide 36 acres in Chanhassen into 33 single family homes on property zoned, residential single family. The location as you've seen is just south of Lake St. Joe, on the west side of Lake Minnewashta. The applicant is Lundgren Brothers Construction, represented this evening by Terry Forbord. Again the present zoning is RSF. Adjacent zoning, for your information. To the north is the same. To the south you run directly into the city of Victoria. To the east, back towards the parkway is single family. And then to the west you cross over into the city of Victoria again. The comprehensive park plan identifies this area of the city, which this proposed plat lies in, as park deficient. This is no surprise to you as commissioners, the applicant or the residents of this area. There is no park of any kind, public open space, playground or other recreational area located west of Lake Minnewashta between Highway 5 and 7. The only thing we have in that area is cathcart Park, which is located in the city of Chanhassen but operated by the City of Shorewood. The City has initiated steps to eliminate this park deficiency. First a park acquisition and development fund reserve was established. And secondly, we are actively making contacts with land owners in that area inquiring about outright purchase of property for park purposes. Some commissioners may recall that Mr. Forbord was here back in 1990. During the review that was a separate issue. However he referenced the possible development of the Boley property. A great amount of discussion that evening centered upon the designation of land around Lake St. Joe, with the exception of the Malinowsky property as park and open space in this city's land use plan, as you can see on Attachment B. This designation will be honored under the current proposal. This is not an effort by the developer but as the property is designated wetland, it is protected as such. This designated open space, although of tremendous value, does not lessen the need for a park in this region of the city however. The question then remains, is the Boley property the appropriate site for a park west of Lake Minnewashta, which the commission has identified in the past, needs to be at least 10 acres in size. I do not believe so for 3 reasons. The topographic constraints confronted on this site would make development of a park, even one with a high percentage of passive area, difficult. Two, the site is removed from the center of the West Lake Minnewashta region. Property north of this site would be more appropriate for use as a park. Granted you could acquire a park on this property and service both this neighborhood, potentially Red Cedar Point in that southern half of the Minnewashta Parkway neighborhood. However, then you would be faced with the job, the task of acquiring additional parkland in the northern Lake Minnewashta region to satisfy those people as well. Additionally, the site borders the city of Victoria on two sides. The preliminary plat includes some 20 lots in Victoria in addition to the ones proposed in Chanhassen. As you are aware, recent negotiations Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 16 over ownership and operation responsibility of the Cathcart Park with th~ City of Shorewood exemplify, point out the difficulties which can arise from acquisition of so called border parks. As such, in the area of park acquisition, it is the recommendation that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend the City Council accept park fees in lieu of land dedication as condition of approval of the Soley property plat. These fees are to be paid on a per lot basis at the rate in face upon building permit application. Currently those fees are $500.00 per lot. As it deals with the comprehensive trail plan, we have two sections to identify and to discuss each one separately. The one trail segment which is identified on the comprehensive plan as Minnewashta Parkway and presently there's a 8 foot bituminous trail being constructed as part of the upgrade of Minnewashta Parkway. Thus satisfying that portion of the comprehensive trail plan. In this neighborhood, or in this vicinity, that trail will be on the east side of the boulevard so residents of this area will have to cross Minnewashta Parkway to access the trail, and that should be completed sometime this summer. The second trail segment which was identified in the comprehensive plan with a nature trail around Lake St. Joe, I confirmed with Mark Koegler of Hoisington-Koegler Group who has been participating in the update and revision of the City's comprehensive plan over approximately the last 8 years. I inquired to him to confirm my assumption that this was to access that beautiful natural area around St. Lake Joe to the west. His recollection was yes, it was but in questioning how we would access that, because it is very rough terrain. Wet, wooded, wetland areas, his statement back to me was that well, the study never went that indepth at that time. It was just thought if it could be ~ accommodated through the development of the City's trail plan, that we ~ should do so. My findings are that the topography in that area, the vegetation would not allow for this loop trail to go around Lake St. Joe. You could certainly build it if you would construct some type of a boardwalk such as you find in Hennepin Parks or some of the other regional parks. But I simply could not recommend that type of construction because I can't justify that cost with this type of low use trail. A trail being located in a residential area. If it were found in a very large city park or in the regional park, you may want to look into that. As such, it is my recommendation that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend the City Council accept full trail dedication fees in lieu of trail easements, dedication or construction, as a condition of approval of the Boley property plat. Again, these fees to be paid at the lot rate, lot basis, that rate in force upon building permit application. That current fee is $167.00 but again I want to reiterate back to the Commission that I'm troubled that this recommendation does go into direct conflict with the city's comprehensive plan. If the Commission is uncomfortable with this, a recommendation should be given that the City Council require a trail easement be granted by the applicant on Lots 1 thru 13, Block 1. Again, simply for some type of rainly day plan. We are simply not planning for tomorrow or 10 years down the line. We are planning for the entire future of Chanhassen. To show you where those Lots 1 thru 13, Slock 1 are and where that trail easement would be necessary. This would be, Minnewashta Parkway is here. Lots 1 thru 13 run along this border. The general configuration of the plan, the comprehensive park plan for that nature trail started at Minnewashta Parkway, looped around Lake St. Joe and co~ back and connecting to the north. Thus the need for a trail easement ..~ around to the rear of those lots to accommodate that at some point in the Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 17 e future. You can see potentially in the copy that you have that this plan identifies the ordinary high water mark and the edge of the wetland. That easement would have to come up with the area above the edge of the wetland so it would be encroaching considerably on those lots. I believe that the lots are so deep and they're platted a lot ways out into that wetland type vegetation. Berg: Do we have a problem Todd with the trail around St. Joe and ADA? Do we have to make that accessible too? Hoffman: Certainly with all trail construction you need to address slopes and those type of things. Berg: Because of the already difficult terrain, do we have to make it less difficult? Or is it alright to leave it as nature. We just have to provide access to it? Hoffman: No. area. It's a can easily be tremendous. You couldn't construct just a dirt nature trail in this wooded wetland. You would have to build a boardwalk, which made accessible. The expense of doing so would be Andrews: This would be a nature trail loop, right? It wouldn't go anywhere or come from anywhere. e Hoffman: It would be a loop off of Minnewashta Parkway and potentially back to Kings Road which is to the north or back to the Parkway. Andrews: I think this would be a beautiful trail but I don't think it serves any purpose as far as the trail system. Schroers: It'd be a semi-circle around the west side of the lake basically. Hoffman: Before we get in discussion, it should be noted that a fairly large mailing as well was distributed to the adjacent residents in this area informing them of tonight's meeting. And then also informing them of future discussion on this item by the Planning Commission and City Council. Schroers: Okay. I have a question for staff regarding our development of the master park plan. We are going to be able to.. .something north of this and identify that as future parkland and that should make it more accessible at the point of development that it's already been laid out and by acquiring these funds may give us some money to work with towards that in the future. What I'm concerned with here is that we don't shut any doors in regards to obtain park space in this part of the city because that will come back to haunt us if we don't have a plan. e Hoffman: You're absolutely correct in that regard and that is why I took my time and put a lot of thought into this recommendation. There simply are 4 large tract parcels left. That's all that remain west of Lake Minnewashta. Those are all north of Kings Point Road. If you want to reference the map on the wall there, there are essentially 4 rectangular, Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 18 long rectangular pieces of property ranging in size from 10 to 25 acres.~ However, you may, Larry may recall that approximately 4, maybe 5 years ago the Commission requested staff to investigate the purchase price and other factors associated with a 25 acre parcel just north of Kings Points Road. 25 acres, 4 building sites at that time, I think they had priced at $750,000.00.. .but certainly not within the reach of the Park Commission. You also may be aware that the current reserve level for this acquisition is $150,000.00 so it's a large chunk of park acquisition and development funds. One of the largest reserves ever held in that fund. But again, in order to purchase 10 acres, we'll need the resources of additional dollars. Andrews: A separate reserve from our capital reserve? Hoffman: Correct. Lash: We have a fund. Hoffman: Specified reserve. The cash is in the bank. Lash: What have we got in there? Like $100,000.00, $150,000.00 or something? Hoffman: $150,000.00. This, if you take 33 lots. So take in another and you could pinpoint that directly onto that reserve and raise that up. Schroers: And then also the trail fee. e Hoffman: Correct. Lash: I don't know if we need to take the trail fee in there because there is a trail already earmarked to go on Minnewashta Parkway so I don't know that I would want to earmark more of our trail fund money for that specific area when we have other areas. Schroers: I didn't mean earmark it for a trail but also apply that towards the acquisition fund for the park in that area. Lash: I don't think we can do that can we? Hoffman: In theory it's not what it's designed for but I think this is an extenuating circumstance and you may be able to justify that type of thought process. Schroers: What I'm concerned with and what I wanted to point out to the other commissioners is that our opportunities in this area are very, very limited and there is an extreme need for an active park in that western part of the city. There has been lots of interest and more than interest. There's been quite a bit of displeasure voiced by the residents out there who feel as though they're not being treated fairly because the residents closest to the city have things available to them that they don't have. Yet they're still paying very high taxes out there and they want somethi~ for their money and we have to make very sure that when we let a parcel like this go, that we have a good plan in place and some resources to back e e e Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 19 it up, that we are going to be able to acquire the adequate space out there before there isn't any left because as Todd said, what's available is really limited. Berg: Really expensive. Schroers: Very expensive. Berg: Are we realistically going to have the money to ever do that? Schroers: Well along with the dedication of the proposed development, hopefully. Lash: The best we can hope for is that further up north, somewhere off of Minnewashta Parkway another developer is going to come in with a chunk of property that we'll be able to get some park property out of that development and then beef it up with what we have in our fund. Don't you think that's where we're going? Hoffman: That's one potential alternative but. Lash: That's kind of what I had in mind. Hoffman: Yeah, there's a variety of scenarios. Outright purchase is beginning to look more and more justifiable and economically would be your best choice. The combination of acquisition through the platting process and park dedication ordinance and then purchase using that $150,000.00, that can work but it takes a difficult negotiating to make that happen. My other concerns are, we have 25, 30, 40, 60 acres. Roughly a ballpark left to the north, if a developer would bring that full 60 acres to you, you would have some pretty good opportunity to get a substantial chunk of property. But if it came in under 4 or 5 smaller developments, the process of gaining park property in a uniform fashion becomes much more difficult. If they come in at 20 house developments, you don't have much opportunity to gain park property. So the scenarios are endless. Larry, to address your question, I think you have the, with the addition of the comprehensive park plan to come within the next 6 months, and the reserve which you have on hand, you are as prepared as you can be. The other factors which you can utilize are a future bonding issue to go ahead and purchase that. We'll watch with interest how the Shorewood issue does this coming March. They're up for $900,000.00 for park improvements in Shorewood. Eden Prairie passed a referendum but in the third go around and after reducing it three times. So that's...current taxes not only in this city but the State, you don't like to hang your hat on that either. Koubsky: So the thought then too is with this trail dedication fee, if we accept it, that basically goes into our general fund. Hoffman: Yeah, it.. .park acquisition and trail development. Koubsky: We can roll that in to an acquisition fund if we choose? Hoffman: Yes. You can justify that I believe on the position that Minnewashta, the trail along Minnewashta Parkway was a considerably Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 20 investment in that neighborhood and that community out there. It came a~ no cost to your park acquisition and development and trail development fund, but was funded through cost sharing with the State. State Aid improvements to the road. Schroers: Okay, does Mr. Forbord have anything that he wants to bring to the Commission tonight in the way of information regarding this? Thank you. Any other thoughts from the Commission? Anyone else in the audience wishing to make a statement or address this proposal? Brenda Roy: property. elected. my. . .and into the the kids My name is Brenda Roy. I live just to the south of the Boley I agree that the lake would be really tough to go around if What I'd like to see changed is the name Richard Sudkey on just that there is a need for a park and we have put our money trailway system and it would be nice to have something, because are going across TH 7 and that's really dangerous. Schroers: There's the wrong name on your property? Brenda Roy: Yes. Richard Sudkey is on my property. Schroers: I don't see where it is. Brenda Roy: Just south of where it says public street. Outlot B. Outlot A. Yeah. Right there. And that's it. Schroers: Okay, thank you. Anyone else? e John Larson: My name is John Larson, and I have got a question. The topographic constraints on the Boley property, what specific constraints would those be? Hoffman: The constraints would be the relief which the property offers. Hilly terrain. Up and down nature of the property. John Larson: I see, thank you. Schroers: As far as, I'm not sure the reason for the constraints? Are you speaking in reference to park property on that development? Developing park property there or is it trail? John Larson: I was wondering what the constraints were on the Boley property as far as putting a park there... Lash: I think I understand what you're saying, and that's a good question because I wanted to double check on that myself. It is basically that we figure that geographically it would be better for the majority of the residents in western Chanhassen to be further north, on the other side of Lake St. Joe? Hoffman: Correct. If the Commission acquired a park on the Boley property, yoU would be servicing that southern region and you would have~ to acquire to the north. Again, the topographic constraints, being that~ you start from Lake St. Joe and come to some very steep terrain. You top Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 21 e out at a knoll and then you drop off on the other side down fairly steeply and then down steeply again into the wetland area just north of Highway 5. The site, you'd be hard pressed to find a very even a small site of flat property on this site. But again the topographic constraints are merely a second factor in your decision to acquire or not to acquire park property here. Schroers: But also definitely is a factor because of grading costs to develop a park and that would cost us more to develop an area that requires more grading than this. That pretty much goes without saying. Someone in the audience was asking a question that was not picked up on the tape. Schroers: Well, if he was building for his specific development but for our park, if we decide to acquire some of that property as parkland, we could try to negotiate with the developer to do that grading for us while he was grading for his development but you know, we may end up losing some ground or some property or something in that negotiation. I don't know if I'm explaining it properly or not but I think that in the past that has been kind of a negotiable. We've tried to get this developer to do some of the grading and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, but you don't get something for nothing, so when you do that, it's always a give and a take. Okay, we'll do the grading for you but then I get this lot back. Therefore, your park is going to be a little smaller than you wanted. Something of that nature. e Lash: Just to clarify sort of how the system works, because you maybe don't, most people don't know how this works. When a developer comes in, we have two choices. We can either require that he donate a certain amount of acreage to the city to be used for park property. In that case then we waive any park fees that we would, that the City would charge him on this building permit and it's like $500.00 per lot. So if we do not take the property, we get the $500.00 and then we can use the $500.00 to put into our park fund for future park development or those kind of things. And there's a rule of thumb that, depending on the size of the development. you can only take a certain percentage, and what is it? Hoffman: 1 acre per 75 residents and on this it would be less than an acre and a half. Lash: Okay, so the most we would require him to designate to the City for park property would be an acre and a half which we tend to try to keep the neighborhood parks at 3 acres I think. As a minimum just so we don't have a lot of little half acre and acre sites allover the city to try to maintain. So this, you know if you just even look at that scenario right there it kind rules out, it doesn't fall into any of the criteria that we're looking at to even require park property instead of the fees. Did that clear it up for you just a little bit? Okay. e Schroers: Our standard was going to be 5 acres. Andrews: I think Todd's recommendation is a good one and I think we should, in this case earmark all the money that would be taken to go into Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 22 that acquisition account for that area. I think that's the only responsible thing we can do for that neighborhood. I'd like to move that we accept staff recommendation and earmark all the park dedication money and trail fee money to be put into the fund that's being set aside to purchase and develop a future park in this area. e Lash: Is that trail fees too or just park fees? Andrews: I'd like to see trail fees in there too. We're going to need that. We're going to need every penny of that money to get what we need later and I think that's the responsible thing to do for the people that are still waiting for the park in that area. Schroers: I would second that motion and also, maybe not as a part of the motion but make particular reference to the fact that these funds are being set aside for park development in that area and have that noted in our master park plan as that develops. Andrews: I agree with that. Andrews moved, Schroers seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend to accept park fees in lieu of land dedication, and to accept trail dedication fees in lieu of trail easement dedication or construction as a condition of approval of the Boley property. These fees are to be paid on a per lot basis at the rate in force upon building permit application. The current residential park fee is $500.00 per unit, and ~ the current residential trail fee is $167.00 per unit for single family dwellings. Also, these park dediciation fees and trail dedication fees shall be earmarked to go into the reserve fund to develop parkland in the area west of Lake Minnewashta as noted in the comprehensive park plan as it develops. All voted in favor and the motion carried. LAND DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL. PRELIMINARY PLAT. SUNLINK ADDITION. SUNLINK CORPORATION. Hoffman: Thank you Chairman Schroers, commission members. This is a preliminary plat to subdivide 60 acres into 4 lots and to vacate public right-of-way street and utility easements. The location is out here on the edge of our city, south of Highway 5 and east of Dell Road, just adjacent and including the DataServ property. The applicant is SunLink Corporation, Peachtree Street, Atlanta, Georgia. Present zoning of that property is industrial office park. All the adjacent zoning are the same. The comprehensive plan, read the memo which was forward to Sharmin AI-Jaff, Planner I in December. The park aspect, this site is on the fringe of the park service area for South Lotus Lake Park and Rice Marsh Lake Park. Typically, when we're dealing with commercial/industrial property, we take a look at service areas in a little different context than neighborhoods, addressing potential before or after work recreation, availability of open space, and then noon time activities or lunch areas. The City has maintained two ballfields on the DataServ property, now which is shown as Lot 2, Block 2 for a period of years. That practice has bee. discontinued for approximately the past 2 years. However, if during the development of Lot 2, this use could be retained, it would be of benefit to the city's park and recreation system and I would recommend that we e Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 23 work with the developer of that parcel to do that. I should not that I'm not at all optimistic that that would ever occur, due to the pricetag and value of the property. As such, staff is recommending that all lots in this proposal be subject to full park fees at the rate in force upon building permit application for each individual lot. Currently those park fees for commercial/industrial development are $2,500.00 per acre. In the context of trails it's somewhat more cumbersome. Concrete sidewalks currently exist along the north side of Lake Drive East. On the west side of the north half of this segment of Dell Road. Do we have a map? Did you follow that? Anyway, the sidewalk which are in are taking care of pedestrian traffic. The one problem we have is that Dell Road is split between Eden Prairie and Chanhassen. So Eden Prairie is developing homes to the south of here and they've upgraded their half of the road. The City has not done so in Chanhassen because we've not been petitioned to do so. We have no use for that improved road. However our engineer, as I understand it, will be working with this application to have them petition and then pay for the eventual improvement of that side of the road. Thus we can make the last remaining, unimproved trail connection which would go north and south there on Dell Road to allow those residents of Eden Prairie to connect to our trail system on Lake Drive East and then gain access to the proposed Southwest Transit drop-off/pick-up station right there at that corner. So in regards to trails, all vacant lots in SunLink Addition will be subject to trail fees at the rate in force upon building permit application. Currently those fees are $833.00 per acre. ~ Lash: Do you know what SunLink is? Hoffman: Do I know what SunLink, I presume SunLink is a developer of commercial property. Lash: So you don't know what's going in there? What that really is? Hoffman: No, I do not. The City Council is wrestling with the development of Highway 5 at the present time. Lash: I bet it's not automotive. Hoffman: The only thing that I know that is driving this application is the Southwest Metro Transit interest in that northeast corner of the lot for their park and ride. Pretty straight forward. Koubsky: Your recommendation is within the planning of the Highway 5 commissioner group? Schroers: Task force. Koubsky: Task force, thank you. Lash: Okay, I move that we accept full park and trail dedication fees as a condition of approval of SunLink Addition, with the current fees that ~ are in force at the time. Andrews: I'll second. Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 24 Lash moved, Andrews seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission ~ recommend to accept full park and trail dedication fees as a condition of approval of SunLink Addition. These fees are to be assessed at the rate in force upon building permit application. Current park and trail fees for commercial/industrial development are $2,500.00 per acre and $833.00 per acre, respectively. All voted in favor and the motion carried. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. RECREATION SECTION. Hoffman: This is something which is probably long been due in our city. We wrestled with issues which pertain to this subject each time a land development proposal comes before you. You wrestled with it again this evening, and now hopefully within the next 6 months, you'll have the opportunity to go out, not only west of Lake Minnewashta and identify what you feel is the most desireable location to satisfy the park needs of that neighborhood, but to do that in other areas in the city as well. I should note right off the top that this process is going to be much easier to accomplish inside the Metropolitan Urban Sewer Service Area, the MUSA line because outside of that MUSA line, land use gets much more vague. Obviously zoning, density issues, land use components, all those type of issues are going to come into playas you layout the city's comprehensive park plan for parks in the future. That would be both community parks, neighborhood parks. If our current plan is missing any trail corridors, we've identified Bluff Creek as a trail corridor. Are we missing any linear parks? Are we missing any public water body accesses? Are we missing an opportunity out there in the city which needs to be identifi~ It's going to be a long process but I think it can be one which should ~ promote some real interest in our community. Obviously the landowners which you're designating property for use of parks are going to be interested in this process. Public, open public forums will be many. Attendance may be a few people. It may... I've outlined the process there. All I've done this evening is simply to provide you with some tools which are necessary to begin. That being the recreation section of the Comp Plan so you can read through that, if you didn't already have it. Land use map dated 2000 and then the City's zoning map... So those are the items which you need to digest. I didn't expect you to do that over the last 3 days. Discussions with Mr. Koegler, he mayor may not be available as it turns out on the 23rd. They've had a continuation of a hearing in Mound which he may have to be present at. However, a member of his staff will be here that evening to begin the process. I envision laying a fairly stead timeline that most likely will include additional meetings on the second Tuesday. Some work sessions if you will to get into this process. We're going to pick apart the Chanhassen City base map. You're going to circle and scratch and discuss a lot of pros and cons about a lot of pieces of property within our city. And then in fact, sometime in April or May you're going to have to get out and stomp around and take a look at this property, either individually or as a commission, to make some hard and fast decisions prior to identifying this property on the city's official parkland. Then you need to move forward, in addition to that, and work with the City Council on an ordinance change in regard to park dedication. Specifically being that the City's ordinance in that regard needs to detail that developer's need to follow the City's offici~ map and when they come in for a plat, to designate that land which is in green or designate it as park property and appropriately on this plat. e e e Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 25 Then land development, after you put your time into that, you should want to remain a park commissioner for the next 18 years because land development issues in regards to park acquisition will become much simplier we hope. I'll address any questions at this time. Otherwise, you can look forward to this item coming back to you on the 23rd. At that time we will set some initial work sessions, most likely coming up the first part in March. The later half part of March. Again in April and then we will just continue to hash out this process. Schroers: I agree that we're going to have to set aside separate work sessions for this, or if it appears on the agenda along with other items, to provide a designated amount of time so as to work on it and adhere to that. If we need to during the normal course of our meeting, a half hour or an hour's worth of work on this. I think if we designate it and stick to that designation, that's fine. Otherwise this should probably all be done in a separate work session because trying to incorporate something of this magnitude into our regular agenda just isn't going to work out. We're not going to get anything done. Lash: I just feel like a majority of this work is already done. You know you did, as far as the updating, you did a great job, I don't remember how long ago it was, of giving us the current survey of everything that we have. That's what a lot of this is. It says what we have. Once we can put that in with this, plug in all the current information, it's going to make it a lot easier for us to go through and say well now, the last survey said we needed fishing docks and I just read something else, and we've gotten those now because we addressed some of those things. So, I think as fa, as picking out properties, that's going to be a tough thing to do but a lot of this is already, I think been updated and done. Hoffman: The general housekeeping items associated with the update, putting in as Jan stated, what facility you have in parks, those type of things, that will come fairly easily because we have done the ground work in that rega,d for the park inventory facilities map. That type of thing. Other issues, your current.. .all those comments have been tabulated and will be coming back to the Commission on the 23rd. So you'll be able to digest those comments as well. Put them in your memory storage and bring them out as you go through this process. And what did we hear from those 800 and some odd residents, or whatever it was that responded back were the comments something that they feel is missing from the recreational system, park system in Chanhassen. Schroers: Is this going to be the official name of this thing is going to be the Comprehensive Park Plan Amendment, Recreation Section, or is it going to be a master park plan? Hoffman: This would be the Comprehensive Park Plan as it is the City's Comprehensive Trail Plan. This would be the City's Comprehensive Park Plan. Lash: So do you want us to hang onto these big maps? Hoffman: You bet. Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 26 Lash: Oh, okay. e Hoffman: Hang onto them and begin to take a look at them. We'll bring in the aerial photos. You'll be able to page through those as we initiate this process. We'll probably tackle it in zones. You'll take a look at the City. You'll try to get a feel for how you think it's going to develop into cubes or neighborhoods or modules. What type of barriers do yoU have going on? You can probably draw some great big black lines through barriers. Highway 5 and all the county roads and lake borders. You begin to get a feel for what these areas going to develop like. One difficult one may be, how many more community parks do we need. Community parks are typically developed around a major resource. Lake Ann. Lake Susan. South Lotus Lake. City Center Park. Are there any remaining major resources out in the community which will, 20-30 years from now, 40-50 years from, there's going to be a population center. A new configuration of roads, of traffic, of development, where a community park is going to be. Once you make those type of assumptions, you need to draw some lines and say, this is it. Andrews: Do we have to hold public hearings? Hoffman: Again, the Park Commission can hold public meetings. Official public hearings will be held by the City Council upon the conclusion of your discussion and recommendation up to the City Council. Andrews: Did you see the copy of the packet that went out for the Highw~ 5, regarding the taking of land or the designation of land? There were some attorney comments by the City Attorney. Hoffman: No, I've not read through those. Andrews: Take a look at that if you get a chance. I think it would put everybody's mind at ease to get a copy of that. Because what it says basically is we are not at any risk if we designate something under a big master plan. We can't be sued and we really don't need to have hearings, the way I understand it. It's only when you make the specific request for the land that we have to go into the detail. But I think we should keep up on that concern and make sure that we are doing those things the right way so we don't get in a court battle 2-3 years down the road with somebody saying we didn't do it right. Hoffman: I just completed a news article for the spring newsletter and it's in regard to the process which yOU are about to undertake with the amendment to this comprehensive plan. In this I specifically spoke to landowner uneasiness when they start seeing these designations going to their property. Typically they get real excited. In attempting to dispell those, I think it can only be a benefit. If you're a landowner and a portion of your property is designated as a future park, and a developer comes in there to buy that property, not only is the developer then compensated through reduction in fees for that property, but they also take a premium for those lots. They sell them for a higher value. ~ People desire to live on parks and open space. Thus they're making more'" money off of them so they're desireable from that standpoint. That designation. e e e Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 27 Schroers: Good. Well I'm sure that in the near future we're going to be dwelling on these issues quite a bit, so as long as we can't really accomplish anything further on that this evening, we may as well move along to item 9. Unless there are any other real specific questions. STATUS REPORTS: A. HIGHWAY 5 CORRIDOR STUDY TASK FORCE. JIM ANDREWS. Andrews: I volunteered for this task force, not having any idea how big of a project his is turning out to be. What's been happening is, as time has gone by, is more and more and more responsibility is being placed on this group, both by the Council and the Planning Commission. At least that's my impression is that not only are we now looking at road useage and trail useage. We're not looking at building design, landscaping, all various issues. The City is now looking at a potential moratorium on construction until this task force reports back with all their findings. It's turning into be a project that is a very, very large one. To date, to be real honest, the task force has accomplished little, in my opinion. I say that, that's my opinion but we have a meeting scheduled tomorrow night and I think the whip will be much more firmly used and I think we'll start to make some progress tomorrow night. The first things we're looking at are road design issues, as to what kind of roads do we want to have. How wide of roads. What kind of look or feel we want on these roads. We're talking about access boulevards on the north and south of Highway 5, that I think would have a bit of like a boulevard or a parkway kind of a feel to them. A little lower speed. Maybe a little winding and a little more interest rather than a straight shot frontage road with no eye appeal or landscape interest. I think that's the focus of tomorrow night's meeting and I think we'll be quickly moving into development issues regarding the east end of town here. Some of the building designs. Trying to get sort of a master theme of our city development so it's a huge, huge project. We also have formed a subcommittee for actually drafting a zoning overlay district so that we can enforce these design rules onto people as they develop property on the corridor. So it's a lot to get done. I think the Council was hoping that we could get done by July. If that were to happen, I would be really pleased. I think that the group will probably likely have to start meeting at least twice a month to get the job done on the timetable that the Council's asking for. I guess I'm just hoping that the project doesn't get any larger than it already is, and that we can break it down into pieces so at each meeting we can spend time actually making decisions rather than just trying to reacquaint ourselves with the whole big picture, which seems to be a lot of what we're spending time doing right now. There's about 12 people on that group but we've typically had 20 or 30 people in attendance. We've had a lot of people are real interested in this group as to what's going on. A lot of landowners are very nervous that something's going to happen to their property that they didn't expect. So some of the meetings have been pretty intense. So anyway, we've spent a lot of time and have not passed any motions yet. But I think that will change as tomorrow night's meeting progresses. Schroers: Will you define the corridor boundaries for us? Are we talking from like Powers Boulevard West or are you talking Highway 5 from the Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 28 eastern portion of the city to the western portion of the city? e Andrews: The corridor would extend all the way from the east border to the west border of the city. As far as the north/south boundary of that, it's really not specifically defined but I would say we're probably looking at somewhere around a mile on each side of the highway as the area that we're looking at. And because it's such a large area, you're obviously looking at the impact beyond those areas too because it all kind of effects one thing and the other. I mean we've spent some time looking at the intersection of Highway 41 and Highway 5. Of course we discussed what could go here and what could go there. Then somebody will say, well we've already got such and such up on Highway 7. What's that going to do to that development? So it's becoming a really huge, huge project. It's in some ways it's so much of a global problem to look at all the problems at once, that you find that it's very difficult to get anything done. One of the things that I've been trying to do, and myself and Gene Borg are the Co-Chairmen of the group, is we're trying to break this into doable pieces. And I've talked a lot with Paul Krauss and with some other city staff people that we really need to break this down into something so that we can get something decided. So we're trying to take a intersection, or a design, go with it and I think try to relieve some people's fears that we're really not legislating anything. All we're doing is recommending to Council. I think some people are under the impression that whatever we decide is it for good. It's a done deal, and that's really not the case. Schroers: With your meandering boulevard thing, if you don't mind me ~ interrupting. Andrews: Sure. Schroers: Are you talking about Highway 5 itself meandering with the boulevards? Andrews: No. Highway 5 is determined by the State of Minnesota. What we're looking at is a coordinating access boulevard to run parallel to that road on each side of Highway 5. Where that's going to be positioned, how it's going to be designed, what the intersections are going to look like, what kind of capacity for speeds and uses and land uses, that's everything. Everything. Schroers: Okay. So basically almost what you're talking about, to make it easily understandable for some of us who are a little thicker, is a service road? Andrews: Nobody likes to say frontage road. They like to say access boulevard but about half the time they call it a frontage road. It would not be a typical frontage road in that I think it would be further separated from the road. In a lot of cases we're looking at probably half a mile or 3/4 of a mile. Lash: You know I have trouble doing mental visualizations. I always ha. to have pictures and diagrams and things. But I don't know how that can be very meandering when there's already, I mean look at along TH 5, a lot Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 29 e of that is already pretty well developed. There isn't a half mile gap anywhere for you. Andrews: That's true. And up until you get past Lake Ann, there's no place to meander. Once you get past Lake Ann, there's lot of potential options, but unfortunately there are also some property owners that aren't real interested in some of those options. So we're having a lot of, so they would like it to meander on somebody else's property. We're dealing with a lot of people that are very intense about what's going to happen to their properties and we've had some pretty heated discussions at prior metings. Lash: So it's going to end up a frontage road? e Andrews: I doubt it to be honest. I think you're going to see it running fairly close to Highway 5 until it gets past the golf range out there and then I think what will happen then is it will veer quite dramatically to the north and go probably like a half mile to 3/4 of a mile north of the road and run parallel. Probably to the north of the proposed, I can't think of the name of it. Fleet Farm. So it'd be approximately that far away from Highway 5. And then there'd be another road on the south side of Highway 5. The way these roads are funded right now is we're thinking that Minnesota is going to kick in a lot of money on the north access boulevard but likely no money on the south access boulevard so South access is wishful thinking at this point. Anybody that's interested in contributing to the group, it is just a huge, huge project and the details we're being asked now to provide is like building. What kind of roof you want and what kind of window designs and it's just too big. Lash: Well, can I just throw out one suggestion? Andrews: Sure. Lash: Try and have a little variety you know, so it doesn't look like all of the buildings. Andrews: Like pre-fab? Lash: Right. I have, I'm a little disillusioned sometimes with the character that I think the downtown is taking on. I feel like a lot of the buildings are coming out stamped. They're all built by the same person. Berg: You can tell the year that a center was built. e Lash: With the exception of the new bank. I really like the new bank. I think it looks different from a lot of the other things in town. I personally like Excelsior. I think it's real quaint and it's unique, and all the people's are different and I don't like this idea where everything has to be the same height and everybody has to have a little green peak on the top. I like to have a little more character so I'd just as soon not see the whole Highway 5 corridor end up looking like. Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 30 Andrews: One thing we need to do as a commission, I know I've said this~ before. We really need to provide some details to, any trail intersection having to do with Highway 5, or these potential access boulevards, as to what we expect that use of that trail to be. Or our requirements for that trail to be, because I think if we were to come to that group and say, here's what we've got to have, here's what our plan says, I think it would happen. But if we wait until after it comes before that group, then we're responding to a defensive mode rather than providing the idea to the group the way we want it. Lash: Maybe we really need to look at that then when we do this comprehensive plan. Look at, especially the boulevards. Andrews: I'm most concerned about the Bluff Creek area and any other potential major crossing of Highway 5. What kind of style of a crossing do we want? How big do we want it? What kind of traffic flow are we anticipating? I think that when this whole project is finally built, I think we're going to have a super first class situation. But I think it's going to be up to us to get our demands in front of the group. I mean we've got that opportunity so, anyway it's another meeting tomorrow night and I hope it goes better than the last one because I was so ticked after that last one. We had a whole series of motions and we ended up tabling every single one of them. Didn't get a single thing done, which I was really upset with. Schroers: Is there anything creative going on in the way of something ~ different and unique to handle traffic? An example would be a traffic circle versus your standard lighted intersection? Something to that nature? Andrews: Yes. Somewhat. They are looking at the landscaping part of it. I mean traffic circles by design are a disaster typically. With any kind of high traffic flow area. But they're looking at the intersection designs. Trying to create a gateway effect out on Highway 41 as a for instance. We've spent a lot of time looking at that one as to when people coming into the west border, we want to have some sort of impact there. We're also looking at each major county road in particular on Highway 5 as well as the boulevards. What kind of turn lane cutout do we want? Do we want it to be greenscaped or gravel or asphalt or what? The definite trend right now is toward a very greenscaped look. Lots of separation between road and trail. Lots of trees and bushes. Whatever. Trying to make it look as beautiful as possible, and yet still provide the necessary traffic requirements. I mean they're looking at some pretty incredible traffic projections. Especially at TH 41 and TH 5 is going to be a major, major intersection. Lash: Do you think the Tree Board is going to get involved somewhat on the landscaping aspect of this? Schroers: Well I don't know about, I think the Tree Board is going to want to get involved in everything that has to do with green space and trees within the city limits of Chanhassen. There's no doubt about that~ from what I've heard with some of the people who are already involved. They plan to make this a very aggressive body. We don't even know what we e e e Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 31 are yet. If we're a Board or a Commission or what exactly we are, but they're going to want to have something to say about it. That's absolutely for sure. Also, what they're going to be looking at is looking for some money to work with like we have a Park and Rec budget. We will be looking for a budget as well to operate with and it's really hard to project exactly where this Tree Board thing is going to go. It's just going to depend on a couple basic things. How much money we can get our hands in and how much political clout we can develop. But I know we're going to want to have some input. I think that that's pretty much getting to be a general conception from all the different facets of the city. Whether it's a planning or the Councilor whatever, as not their main focus but as a sideline. Everyone is concerned about the aesthetics of the development in the city and in that concept, you have to consider the trees and shrubbery. So I think it's going to be something that's going to be looked at a lot by everyone. Lash: Well you know, and I certainly am one who appreciates trees and shrubs and all that but I hope that when the Highway 5 corridor and the boulevard all and that go in, it doesn't get to the point of overkill. You know like some other things have been done and people who are sensitive. Andrews: Well right now we're looking at things in a very detailed basis. I think actually when it comes down to the recommendation, it will be more of a broad stroke. You know yes, we want to have landscaping. The last couple of meetings we've been looking at, some of the discussion has gotten down to how close should the trees be to the sidewalk and how wide should the sidewalks be. I think we're trying to focus on details too soon. My guess is we'll just say yeah, we want a greenscape look and then punt that off to the Council. At least I hope we do, because I don't want to be voting on what species of trees we should be putting in on Highway 5. Schroers: I think that's where the Tree Board is going to get involved and they're going to want to try to stay as native and natural looking as possible. Just because we have a green space, we're not going to want to put in all kinds of foreign, ornamental shrubbery that no one can identify with. Knows what it is. That sort of thing. Lash: Well you know, I think of downtown and I know there are a lot of people who figured that was overdone and it requires a lot of maintenance and I guess I just wouldn't want to see it go from the east border to the west border. Andrews: That won't, and trying to make turns onto the main street here is a real adventure with those trees. Anway, it's a big project. We're starting to make some progress. I know that some members from the Council are coming tomorrow night to crack the whip. I think things will start to move. I'm sure they will move. Koubsky: Jim, do you see a time line when we may have to get, this Commission give recommendations for trail crossings? Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 32 Andrews: I would say that I think we ought to have something on our ~ agenda next month because I think it will likely get on the Highway 5 .., group's agenda within 2 months because we're starting to look at roads now and then the next logical thing would be things that cross the roads. I hope that's the direction we're taking. We are responding. Lash: Is that something we can do in a regular meeting or do you think we need to. Hoffman: We can accomplish that at a regular meeting, if we focus ourselves. There has been some preliminary designs put together and again, I would caution you that you don't get involved in detail design. Down to how many corregations on the tunnel and those type of things but take a look at what's important. Obviously the design, the development of these contracts which are going to take place to get this thing done are not going to happen so there's no need to talk that detail. Andrews: I think we'd better focus on what our requirements are. As to how big of a trail do we anticipate. Not so much what does the trail look like, but are we going to have a pedestrian trail or two or a horse trail or bikes and a pedestrian trail? Just so the Commission knows how much space they need to allow for the culvert or the overpass or whatever it's going to be. Then they can do the designing later as to what it will actually physically look like. Hoffman: You need to make the decisions which 10-20 years from now peop~ are going to say, that was the decision which was necessary to make this.., happen. You know it doesn't matter how it turns out but those were the things that needed to happen in order to, in an organized fashion in order to get it to this point. Schroers: Okay. Well thanks for your information on that Jim and we'll be looking forward to see how this all develops. B. CHANHASSEN ENTERTAINMENT COMPLEX. Hoffman: Thank you Chairman Schroers. Commission members. I'll keep this very brief. You have an Addendum No.2. Not only did you get the largest packet ever but you also received two addendums with this packet. Addendum No.2 includes a preliminary program of requirements for this proposed entertainment complex. An example of one preliminary sketch for an upper and lower level to the complex, and a preliminary cost estimate sheet. Again, that's at a first glance. That cost estimate is simply based on square footage and type of uses. I'm not going to go through those piece by piece. The one you're usually concerned with is Category 300 in the program recreation center. It goes through all of the different components of this proposed recreation center. As stated on the bottom of this Addendum No.2, Todd Gerhardt, our Assistant City Manager, and the Assistant Executive Director of the HRA has tentatively scheduled a presentation by the architect for next Thursday, or excuse me. Next Wednesday afternoon, February 3rd at 5:30. This meeting would be for the benefit of this commission and the Planning Commission. I need to take ~ hand count this evening of those of you who feel you are able to make thll' meeting. Supper will be served, and essentially I don't believe there's e e e Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26,' 1993 - Page 33 going to be any changes in this program or these, there might be some minor changes in the concept plan but you'll see this same thing presented in detail that evening, so I'm not going to go through it. While we're on the subject of Addendum No.2, I also included an article which I referenced earlier pertaining to a proposed park referendum for the city of Shorewood. Obviously the outcome of that referendum will effect the city in some regard. Typically just in positioning how is the mood out there for these type of things. So I've included that so you can read that for your interest. I will address questions on the Chanhassen Entertainment Complex and on the process which is involved there as we move forward in that regard prior to moving onto the next item. Lash: I have a question just on the entertainment center. Under category 300, recreation center. It says divisible gym. Are those the dimensions then? Does it turn out to be like two basketball courts or what are those dimensions? Hoffman: The dimension, divisible court is item. Lash: The first one. Hoffman: First one, 301. 50 x 84 is the court size. one full sized court. 75 x 100 is the overall area of the gymnasium. That's a full sized high school court so it's Lash: So but it could be divided in half. Then that could be divided in half? Hoffman: Correct, with would call a small gym. preliminary. This is a need to be addressed as a curtain. It's staff desire to see what you Or a gym adjacent to this. These are very very preliminary program and space constraints well. Andrews: I need to ask some questions here. These buildings would be publically owned buildings or these would be built on behalf of some private developer who would then try to run these as commercially viable operations? Hoffman: A portion of this would be privately owned. A portion would be publicallyowned. The entertainment complex, recreation center. Well the recreation center and the, what you would call the convention center would be publically owned buildings as part of the downtown redevelopment. Andrews: This is sort of the community center reborn then? Hoffman: Something of that but it's part of the downtown redevelopment. What to do with the back side of the Dinner Theatre. Andrews: I think it's great as long as we can figure it out for somebody else to do this for us. I think it's a great idea. Lash: Well the HRA is doing it right? Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 34 Hoffman: They'll be wrestling with the costs. They only have so many ~ dollars over the next, the year 2000 to invest. They're committed to .., investing those but they also would want to accomplish senior housing, a library, some issues pertaining to the Pauly/Pony/Pryzmus block and redeveloping that block as well. So their pot of money, although it seems large and unending. Lash: Bottomless. Hoffman: Bottomless, is not. So they're going to.be making some tough decisions as well. Lash: real? town? But they have in here figured in a future library. Is that really I thought they had kind of thought of a library up in that end of Hoffman: Pauly/Pony/Pryzmus? A library's been talked about on the Pauly site. The library's been talked about in this entertainment complex. The library's talked about wanting to locate on the corner of Market Square. So up in the air. Schroers: Okay. Where is this meeting going to be held? Hoffman: Here. Council Chambers. Andrews: That was next Wednesday at what time? Hoffman: 5:30 for a supper meeting. And a brief presentation by, most ~ likely Curt Green of Hammel, Green & Abrahamson. Some representative of Mortenson Construction organization may also be present as well. Schroers: That may be an interesting meeting to attend. Koubsky: A couple of hours? Hofman: Or less. Lash: Well I'd love to come but I can't. Somebody take good notes. Hoffman: Anybody else that's out? Andrews: I'm out. I'm meeting out'd right now. Hoffman: Jim, Jim, Jan. Schroers: Put the rest us down as maybe's. We're all getting meeting out'd here. Well okay. Since this is going to be coming up again, we don't need any further discussion on this. Hoffman: Again, in regards to attendance, I would caution you that this meeting is being taken on because of the concern expressed by the Commission that you want to be brought up to speed so if one or two folk~ show up, staff is. .., Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 35 e Andrews: Okay, I'll be there. I'll find a way. If I come wearing a frying pan, you know the wife didn't think it was a good idea. Hoffman: Yeah, if you look at the costs associated with the recreation center here, it's millions. 4 million dollars so it's a very large investment. We talk at length about a CIP of $150,000.00. We should give some.. .to this process. Schroers: Will we be receiving anything further on that? An agenda or anything for that meeting? Or just show up here at 5:30? Hoffman: Show up at 5:30. I'm not sure, Hammel-Green may forward something to us for distribution but I do not know that at this time. Schroers: Okay. So we're on our own to remember to show up. Hoffman: Next Wednesday. I can mail out a reminder. Andrews: What was the date on that again? Hoffman: Wednesday, February 3rd... 1993 PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT GOALS. Hoffman: Chairman Schroers and Commission members, as I stated in that cover memo, goals of staff as outlined, need to reflect... e (There was a tape change at this point in the discussion of the agenda. The following motions were summarized by the Park and Recreation Director.) PRIORITIZATION OF 1993 PARK ACQUISITION AND DEVELOPMENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. Andrews moved, Berg seconded to authorize staff to complete the 1993 Park Acquisition and Development Capital Improvement Program in an order deem appropriate by the Park and Recreation Director. All voted in favor and the motion carried. LAKE ANN PARK PARKING FEES. Andrews moved, Schroers seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend to City Council to establish the 1993 Lake Ann Park parking permit fees at the 1992 rates. All voted in favor and the motion carried. AD~INISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS: A. APPROVE 1993 ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP; MINNESOTA RECREATION AND PARK ASSOCIATION AND NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARKS ASSOCIATION. e Andrews moved, Berg seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission approve 1993 memberships to the National Recreation and Park Association, and the Minnesota Recreation and Park Association. All voted in favor and the motion carried. Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 36 (Taping of the meeting began again at this point.) e BALLFIELD USEAGE REQUESTS: Lash: Well I have a really big problem with this. I really do. And Fred's probably been in the same situation as I have, and I don't know if anybody else here has or not. But if you have kids playing in the CAA baseball, ragball and all that stuff and you have to go over to Rice Lake Marsh, it's a nightmare over there. It's a nightmare to try and park and if I lived there, I'd be livid to have that congestion every. Berg: At least 2 blocks in every direction. Lash: Yep. So I absolutely would not want to see this happen in any other neighborhood park. One of my personal goals was to get it out of Chanhassen Estates. I think it's just terrible that those people, that everyone who has to use that is going through that. And I think many times when we've developed these neighborhood parks and people come in here and they ask, will this be for the community use? Will there be ballfields? Will there be this? And we say no, no, no. It's just going to be a neighborhood park. We don't want to bring in a lot of traffic and we have told many different neighborhoods that and I am just not comfortable in going back on those promises that we made and creating a bigger nightmare and I think if people start hearing, when they call up to register their kids, and I am all for CAA. I am all for every kid who ~ wants to play being able to play, but people will never approve a ~ referendum to develop a youth complex if they do not have to feel a pinch once in a while. If a few people start hearing on the phone, I'm sorry. All of our ballfields are full. We can't take any more new teams, there's going to be a grass roots movement to start getting more ballfields for the kids. And so I'm looking at it from two different points. One, I think it's a nightmare to start this in the neighborhood parks and the other side is we're never going to get that youth complex if we are able to solve this problem by just shoving this off on all these other places. Schroers: The only way to deal with that fairly is for the City to put out information to all interested parties that due to limited resources, availability to CAA programs will be limited and offered on a first come, first serve basis. I guess from the administrative point of view, I can imagine staff taking a whole lot of grief for people saying, well just because I didn't get their 10 minutes earlier, now my kid can't play ball this year? And then how do you respond when they come back and say, look. You've got these ballfields out here that are virtually not being used for anything. Why can't we use them? How do we address that? Lash: Well and if there's 4 parking spots here and there's going to be 30 cars coming in every hour, and at some point in time there will be double the cars because the second shift will be there when the first shift is still there. What can you do with all those cars? Koubsky: The problem with these three parks too is it all thru traffic.~ Rice Marsh really gets jammed up but at least it's a cul-de-sac. It's n~ thru traffic. Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 37 e Schroers: I've been down there. I've seen that. Lash: It's a nightmare. Ruegemer: The other.. .if these fields would be implemented, that Rice Marsh would probably be cut down or eliminated. Lash: I mean I don't have any solutions. I really don't, so it's not like I'm trying to shoot down a suggestion to a solution to a problem that I know is there but I'm afraid we're going to have more problems. Andrews: The other thing to think about, every time you take a field for a game, you've lost it for the practices, plus you've also got that many more teams that are looking for fields for practices and that creates additional parking pressures on other parks. I've seen that when I lived up next to Lotus Lake Park with, there were virtually no scheduled games there but there were 2 and 3 teams practicing there every night with their entourage of vehicles as well. Lash: I think we'll just be cluttered with neighborhood... Andrews: I think Rice Marsh in particular, because it's a dead end, is going to fill up with a zillion cars and it's going to be a traffic jam. e Lash: I know Curry Farms, we've dealt with them before. We know where they're at and... Schroers: Your proposal for using these three fields, Jerry how often, what kind of a schedule? I mean are you talking about using them every night? Ruegemer: It depends on what age group would be there. Probably a couple nights a week. Andrews: You'd still be scheduling when they have practices too. Ruegemer: That's all incorporated in. No more than 3 nights a week. Berg: So it's 5 nights a week. 2 games and 3 practices. Lash: But that would be this year. Next year there's going to be more kids. Berg: Next year there will be more and then we'll incorporate every ballfield in the city, regardless of where it is. Lash: And regardless of what we've promised people. Andrews: Some parks have to be left just for the kid that come play. I kind of look at this say geez, where does a kid go that wants to just go play, if every park is being used for basically adult commercially organized activities? e Koubsky: We've put out a referendum identifying this, not that this solution would have been solved if everybody would have voted for the Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 38 referendum. But there's a public education process and any park, like J~ eluded to. Part of the public education process is feeling the pinch or the need for a facility. I think we've started, actually it's pretty, it's happened a lot faster than I thought because we were just talking about this last summer. How long are these fields we have going to last? It was projected possibly years so we thought, well we'd better think ahead and think about Bandimere today and put that on a vote. See what the public thinks about it. Well the public might think a little different next time we ask for a vote. If we let baseball or athletics into the neighborhood parks, the only people that are going to be upset are the people who live in the neighborhood parks, and they're going to recognize the shortage. If we cut back on teams that can be allowed to play, the people who are going to be upset about the kids and the families who have teams that participate, I think it will be a greater amount of people. Schroers: Well the people that are sitting right here, what about your kids and your kids and your kids that don't get to play? Koubsky: It's a tough question. Andrews: I'd personally rather deal with mad ballteams than mad homeowners because I feel our responsibility is to the homeowner first. Koubsky: I think what I would do is I would be calling Todd a lot more often and I'd be calling the Mayor a lot more often if my kids weren't ~ allowed to play baseball. And I might move. Those are decisions I hav~ to make. Lash: Well I know in other activities, like swimming lessons, I can remember talking to people who were up at 6:30 in line to try and make sure they'd get the spot they wanted for swimming lessons. It's a fact of life that a lot of times these things get tight and people don't like it but you do the best you can and then maybe you fight for the ultimate solution and that's what we have to get, we have to get some support to do that. Schroers: I think it's no secret that we would all like to see a youth sports complex developed but I think when it really comes down to an issue and you get the people in the community fired up enough to come in, and they point out the fact that you got a ballfield here and a ballfield there and another ballfield there, that is not being used to it's fullest potential and yet you want to raise my taxes to build a whole new complex out here, they're going to say, get it together. Berg: The people I know I think Larry would look at it from a little different angle. I know I would look at it from the point of view of the industrial teams. I would say, what do we have these parks for. We're talking about Lake Ann not being, Field No.3 not being an acceptable youth field. I have a real hard problem with, a real problem with that. If you told me my kid couldn't play but we're not going to convert Lake Ann No.3 to a youth field. I have more problems with the adults using ~ for an industrial league than I do not interferring into a neighborhood park where there isn't any parking. Where we're going to disrupt the Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 39 e entire neighborhood. I can logically understand that. I can't understand a bunch of adults and yahoos coming in and, that's not what they are but that's going to be my interpretation if you take the playtime away from my kid. That's the area I'm going to go after more than not using the neighborhood parks 100%. Koubsky: That's a good issue if we need ballfields when we have industrial teams that occupy a lot of ballfield time. If you go back to a resident Larry and if I lived in an area, I'd say why did you give me this softball field anyway? Why did you design a softball field into my neighborhood park and then not even give me parking spaces, and now you're scheduling it for softball activity. I would have just as soon as had an open field. There are safety issues with cars and traffic. We already see one lawsuit deeper down in here. Schroers: Okay, what we need to do here is just everybody be honest about how you feel in regards to this and see if we can get a motion passed. If we can't, if we go against using this, then realize that we may be restricting some people from being able to participate in the program and we're going to have to be willing to stand behind our decision because somebody's going to be in here. Lash: Do we have other people registering besides, and I'm going to sound like a broken record, but besides residents? In the kids very much. e Ruegemer: There's a real small percentage. Maybe kids coming from Chaska or Victoria because there are opportunities down in the Chaska area for people in that end of town. Lash: There used to be I think more kids from Victoria but now I think they're going more to Chaska. Ruegemer: I'm going to pick an arbitrary number here but I'm going to say probably 90% are probably Chanhassen. Lash: Because I know I read that Chaska now has instituted a non-resident thing where they charge more, and you know where that's leading. It ultimately leads to no non-residents and they're feeling the pinch too I'm sure. What about city Center? I mean we've talked about the HRA and all, is that on line that that could be solution sometime in the near future? Hoffman: That plan is on hold until such time as the central park concept moves forward. That would be the realignment of those ballfields and creating some more useable space up there. Lash: Because that was going to give us a couple more fields wasn't it? Hoffman: Absolutely. e Koubsky: I think my thought too on making a motion on this is, this is one solution to a problem. I know Fred's brought up another solution. Maybe we need to visit before we decide on how we're going to move against this. This may be the only option, even though it's unpalatable. I think my decision needs to be based on all of our options, which I don't know if Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 40 we have here. You know the schedule. How many people have to play? Wh~ do we have to jockey around? If we get these 3 fields you can make it. What if you can't get these 3 fields? How does that effect my decision making? Lash: What about Saturdays? Can we start going to some Saturdays? Ruegemer: Definitely. Schroers: And you're talking about this upcoming 1993 operating season. Now we can't take into consideration what may happen with City Center and Bandimere because that's not going to effect this particular item. Hoffman: If I could clarify just a couple of issues. Again, any registration difficulties which will be felt as part of youth associations will be felt by the Athletic Association. What we simply do is tell them what facilities they have. The Athletic Association carries out the registration, the scheduling, those type of things. Koubsky: Yeah, there may be more kids on a team. That's a solution. Hoffman: The reason Jerry brings this to the Commission, Jerry is the City liason to the Athletic Association. As such, it would seen as his responsibility to support the interest of the Association. They made this request to the Commission. Obviously your responsibilities and interest are of a larger scope than the Athletic Association. e 3 parks, may we Schroers: So this is not staff's recommendation to utilize these but it is the request from the CAA? They came to staff and said, use Sunset Ridge, Curry Farms and Lake Ann? Hoffman: This does represent Jerry's recommendation to utilize those spaces. Lash: But CAA came and said we need a couple more fields. Ruegemer: There's been discussions, right with projected numbers. Hoffman: Correct. And again, your comments about the positioning for a future referendum. The Athletic Association, as you're all aware, is an important organization in our city. It would be our desire at any point when we could assist that association, to do so. But again it has been your policy to attempt to keep at a minimum, adult activities out of neighborhood parks. Now you're seeing Meadow Green neighborhood park, you essentially operate it as a softball complex. You're seeing Rice Marsh Lake Park, and not only Rice Marsh but Carver Beach playground operated as a CAA ballfield. You're at an important decision making point here and you accomplish a couple of things. But whatever decision you make is going to ripple back some major impacts into the community. Those have negative connotations but maybe in the end they're going to be positive. Koubsky: That's a good point. There are two community parks that are ~ being used for the youth athletics. That's kind of what we use. ,., Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 41 ~ Andrews: There's more than that. North Lotus gets used. Koubsky: Several. e e Hoffman: North Lotus and Meadow Green, as far as the neighborhood park are more highly developed. They both contain parking. Not to a great extent but the largest neighborhood parking lots that we have. Some of the other ones that have been mentioned here, have not been developed into, in my opinion, for use by association or organized athletics. However, as you're receiving this request because they're simply running out of room. Lash: Well I guess I'd be ready to make a motion in that, at this point we deny this request but ask staff to work with CAA, or however they want to do it, to come up with some other options and review those. And if it appears we can't come up with any more solutions, we can review this again. Schroers: That sounds reasonable to me. I'll second it. Lash moved, Schroers seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission deny staff's recommendation to utilize the ballfields at Sunset Ridge, Chanhassen Hills and Curry Farms Parks for the Chanhassen Athletic Association activities. All voted in favor and the motion carried. Andrews: Now there is a second item attached to this. Was that a second? Ruegemer: Did you get a chance to look at the letter? In looking at Jack Jensen's letter, Jack did bring up a lot of valid points pertaining to the youth activities in Chanhassen. However, converting Lake Ann No.3 to a specific youth complex I think would really limit the use for both youth and adults. By moving the fences in, I think you tend to maybe specialize or cater to one group or the other. I feel that keeping the field the way it is, having fences stay the way they are. .. .we're in somewhat of a field strain right now as it is with our youth activities and I feel that we can accommodate both users by leaving the field the way it is and not specializing the field. With that I think it would suit a wider variety of use. If we need to cut back on the adults and that field can still be used by the youth and the adults, if we need to do it that way. And that would be my recommendation then for Lake Ann No.3 versus moving the fences in at Lake Ann No.2, as we did last summer. That kind of limits. I think we're going to shoot ourself in the foot if we do that. I think we can, it will accommodate a lot more user groups if we keep it the way it is. That would be my, staff's recommendation to appease a wider variety of people. Schroers: Do you want to just incorporate that into your motion Jan? Lash: Sure. I would move that we deny the request. Andrews: We can't do that under our Rules. We can't go back. Lash: I'll just make a new motion. Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 42 Andrews: Just make a new motion. It's just an easier way of doing it. ~ Lash: as it That we deny the request from Mr. Jensen and keep Lake Ann Field 3 is, which is still useable by them, right? Ruegemer: It's still available. In the past years they've been able to accomplish their game situations on other fields. But we can take a look at that... Lash: To keep Lake Ann Field 3 open to more users. Andrews: So as is right? Lash: As is. Koubsky: Second. Lash moved, Koubsky seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission to accept staff's recommendation that Lake Ann Park Field #3 stay as it is. All voted in favor and the motion carried. FOURTH OF JULY CELEBRATION. SELECTION OF BAND. Ruegemer: This memorandum is quite straight forward regarding the 4th of July celebration. The Hi-Tops have performed for the 4th of July celebration for quite a few number of years and we've always had real ~ positive comments regarding their performance and enthusiasm. They're ~ always thrilled and always anxious to play out here again. John Krumm, with the Hi-Tops who initiated the initial conversation probably in September of 1992 to, he asked if they could come back and really the rate that they're at is pretty competitive, and really below what other groups... So it's staff's recommendation to approve the contract for the Hi-Tops for the Chanhassen 4th of July Celebration. Lash: I have a question on that. Did they say specifically that they would not be willing to have the rain out day be the 3rd? Ruegemer: Does that say in the contract? Lash: It just says the rain out date is Monday, July 5th. Ruegemer: I think we requested that. Hoffman: In talking to them, weren't they unwilling to do that? To take up those other nights which they're typically booked. Ruegemer: I think they have a tentative agreement that night. Lash: I mean obviously the 3rd would be better for us but I can understand that they're not willing to book it that way and give up a Saturday night. Hoffman: 3rd is a Saturday night, yeah. - Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 43 e Schroers: The tough thing too is, that then forces us to leave everything set up over the whole weekend. Lash: It forces people to go home at 10:00 for those to get up and go to work the next morning. Maybe what we could think of doing is, if we have the rain out, is asking that it start a little earlier. Otherwise if they start at, what time does that start? 8:00. It starts at 8:00. You know maybe what we need to do is have it start at 7:00 or...so at least we'd get our money's worth out of them. Most people aren't going to stick around until midnight. Schroers: Okay, any other discussion? How about a motion to approve? Andrews: Hold on a sec. Are we going to motion approval with Jan's recommendation to amend the starting time for the back-up, the rain out date? Schroers: Yes. Lash: And definitely they were not willing to have the 3rd as their rain out, is that correct? Ruegemer: Correct. Hoffman: Jerry can confirm that. e Schroers: Is that a motion, or does someone want to make it? Lash: Yes, I'll do that. What I'd say? Andrews: I'll second it. Lash moved, Andrews seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission approve the contract with the Hi-Tops to perform at Chanhassen's 4th of July Celebration as amended. All voted in favor and the motion carried. CAA BASKETBALL REPORT. BOWLING PARTY EVALUATION. AND SKI TRIP REPORT. Hoffman: Other than if there's any questions on 13 (d), (e) and (f), no need to go into depth. Ruegemer: Just an update. Schroers: Do we want to have any discussion on this? Lash: The prizes for bowling, I thought that was cool. They'll really like that. e 8erg: Just so you have an idea how things are growing. when my daughter was in 3rd grade, there were I believe half a dozen girls. Now in that grades 3 and 4 there's years. .. Four years ago 4 teams, maybe 35. That's 4 Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 44 ADMINISTRATIVE PACKET: ~ Hoffman: Any questions on the Administrative Packet? That as well contains a lot of information. Koubsky: I guess I have one addition here. On the home numbers, and home and work numbers on the contacts. My work number's changed. I'm following in Randy's footsteps. I've taken a new job outside of this area. It's in the cities but it's over on University and 94. I used to work in Chaska. Oh my new number, if you care, is 659-7567. But with that move I'm going to probably be moving. Or I will be moving. My house is on the market. So in light of that, we're hoping to be out of the area, with regrets. I hate to move out of this area. I've certainly enjoyed living here but both my wife and I will be working downtown, or there abouts so we have to move our family with us. All of that aside, my schedule is probably to let my son go through first grade, which will be June. So I'd be looking at a move date sometime around June. It's kind of up to the Board what you guys want to do. You just interviewed a lot of potential commissioners. I'm kind of at your disposal. I'd be more than happy to sit here until that time, or if you like with the new strategic planning and what for park and trail, if you want to replace my position, that's kind of a thing for yOU to decide. Schroers: Well I kind of thing that's more your decision as to whether or not you want to stay and how long you want to stay. I mean I think that we'd like, it's nice to get new blood but it's also nice to have some experience. So that's really going to be your call. I wouldn't be comfortable in saying that yOU should stay or leave, because that has to do with your personal life. e Koubsky: Then I'll ride it out and just stick around and help out. I enjoy this. Lash: I have a couple of questions on the Administrative Packet. On this Christopher Thompson thing. I'm not real good at reading legalees and so I have no idea what this is about. What is this about? Hoffman: Drove in North Lotus Lake Park, did some damage to the park. We assessed the bill back to Christopher Thompson for $60.00 for turf repair. That needs to go onto the court. I spent more of your tax dollars in administrating this claim but it's all in trying to teach a young man a good lesson. Koubsky: He cut down a Christmas tree, right? Hoffman: No, the Lake Ann grinch cut down the Christmas tree. That was somebody else. Lash: I had a question on this lawsuit too. Koubsky: Somebody got hurt? Hoffman: Correct. it include it all? The report is about as indepth as we have. Well, No, it does not. Jerry has been working with the ditt Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26. 1993 - Page 45 e insurance carrier and then back and forth with the City Attorney in this regard. In discussing this with the City Attorney at the coffee station, he didn't miss a sip on his coffee. You know these things are not uncommon. We maintain the fields on a daily basis. We provide safety bases. As a parent you need to accept some responsibility for potential injury due to this type of activity. It's a natural occurrence. Lash: Well what kind of an injury was it? Hoffman: Broken foot. Ruegemer: In two places. It required an operation. Now they feel he needs another operation to correct the situation. Lash: So it says in excess of $550,000.00. Andrews: That's standard legalees. Lash: How much in excess? Andrews: They don't tell you that. Lash: Okay. so the attorney's feeling like they don't have a leg to stand on? e Hoffman: COllect. Koubsky: So was that running the bases? Hoffman: Running the bases. First base. Lash: Well and they sign waivers to start with. And how about on the Dear Roge, lette,. The soil testing. Hoffman: That brings you up to date on what an estimate would be for soil investigation down at, what is the cost the,e? No, it's not there. $2,000.00. Lash: We'd have to pay $2,000.00 just to get the test? Hoffman: Correct. So I apologize for not attaching his, I believe I did that in a Plevious administrative packet. Lash: And you sort of feel, in your expert opinion, that this soil test will prove that it won't be conducive to a test? e Hoffman: Right. I don't think it's worth $2,000.00. In-house we can perform some rudimentary soil tests which would tell us that as well. I apologize, there is no commission member presentations on this agenda. So any other commissioners have the floor at this time to let us know your feelings. Andrews: I think it was on that motion to adjourn. Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 46 Lash: No. Sorry. I know it's getting late, but two things that I want~ to discuss. First being I had a discussion with Betty Lang recently and she's not a real happy camper with this whole Herman Field thing, and you know it kind of makes for bad PR and bad feelings. She's not happy with how this all came out and I told her I would bring it up. Of course she feels like there needs to be a gate and said, she's under the impression that during our meetings there were some promises made of certain things that have not appeared. Namely one being a gate system. So we talked about that at length and I tried to explain to her, you know it's hard to do that because who's going to open it and who's going to close it and all of that. Schroers: We didn't promise them a gate anyway. Lash: Yeah, see and I can't remember for sure. Schroers: We wouldn't have done that. Lash: Well I just thought maybe we could do a little investigating into it. Maybe write her a letter. I thought I was being nice to just bring it up to her and see kind of, I knew she wasn't happy when the whole thing was going on and just say, how are things going now Betty. Is it okay or is it as bad as you thought it would be or whatever? . ..try to smooth it over with her somehow. I'm not quite sure how to go about doing that. Hoffman: I'll take your direction in any regard. Throughout this whole~ process I've been very cordial to Ms. Lang and attempted to come onto he~ property to discussing what effects this project was going to have on her property, etc, etc. I would agree that she's been not happy throughout the entire process. I'm not sure that anything we say today is going to make her any happier. Lash: That is probably true. You know it's just hard when you face somebody like that. No matter what you do. Schroe.s: But there's a whole community and a whole neighborhood and she's the only one really making any serious. Lash: But how do we know that? Maybe if I approach some other people, I don't know anybody else but she goes to my church and I saw her at church. But maybe if we approached somebody else, they'd say too. Well, I'm not happy. The thing is we haven't approached anybody to see how they're feeling on the end. If it's shaped up the way they want or not. Hoffman: If any indication, you'll get a copy of these computations of these surveys. An indication of those surveys, those people up there on Herman Field, don't want you to take a step in any other park before you complete Herman Field Park because they've been waiting 13 years to get that neighborhood park. So there are some residents up there who are very anxious for this park to be completed. And that's not just a singular example. Lash: Another issue that came to my attention in the paper last week I guess was the article about the snowmobile trails and is there a future e e e e Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 47 for them in Chanhassen of staying. Are they in jeopardy? It's something maybe when we do the comprehensive plan we can get some language in there about that. I don't know exactly what we can do but. Berg: I hate to see them go. I don't have a snowmobile but those guys are always, to me they seem real polite and they watch for traffic. Lash: And you know, there's always going to be some clinkers in any group. Ball players or snowmobilers or anyone who are going to wreck things but just because you have baseball players who break glass on the field, it doesn't mean we're going to close down all the baseball fields. So I think we need to look at trying to come up with some kind of a future direction of how we can maintain those. I think a lot of people moved here for that reason and I'd hate to see it lost. Schroers: I think the City should support the Snowmobile Associations and agreements they work out with landowners and that sort of thing and support that, but I don't think it's the City's obligation to provide special trails and that sort of thing for something like that. I mean that's like a license vehicle now, like a boat. I mean we're not going to build a special lake so someone can run their boats on it and I think the same people that buy.. .or think about having city snowmobile trails. We need to support the ongoing program for as long as it's practical and exists but. Hoffman: We support it to date. We as well become frustrated when they dl"ive on the parks and the playgrounds and the ballfields, those type of things. But we're supportive. We meet annually with the Public Safety Commission and members of the Association. Obviously the Association members are very interested in keeping their rights but they represent a minority of the snowmobiles out there. But they're the voice. They took out the $250.00 some ad or $230.00 some ad, whatever it was, in the paper. The editor, Dean Trippler wrote the article so they're trying to get the awareness out there. Schroers: The example, what I'm trying to say is along with the Highway 5 corridor and that sort of thing, my opinion, pesonal opinion on that is that we ought to be promoting human power trails there. Bicycling, walking, jogging, that sort of stuff but that's only...a non-motorized corridor there where it's going to be a busy area. Lash: I'm not promoting that either but it'd be nice if we could have some areas that are designated that. Hoffman: There's one trail left. Lash: Yeah, and how long before that's going to be gone? people going to do? Then what are Berg: Until they widen that road I suppose. Hoffman: The trail goes north, southeast and northwest and they continue to battle each year for landowner permission. Keep changing their routes and this and that. I don't think it's in jeopardy. What's in jeopardy Park and Rec Commission Meeting January 26, 1993 - Page 48 sooner is the right to drive your snowmobile from your house to that tratlt system. Currently you have to drive on the roads as a vehicle, but many people drive on the boulevards. Up along lawns. Do tree and shrub damage. That type of thing. That's what brings the complaints into the city. Schroers: I have snowmobile tracks allover my yard. Nobody came and asked. I don't particularly care but. Hoffman: Tough issue. Winter jet skis. Koubsky moved, Lash seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in favor and the motion carried. The meeting was adjourned at 10=44 p.m. Submitted by Todd Hofman Park and Recreation Director Prepared by Nann Opheim e e . e . CITY OF CHANHASSEN ~ 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739 MEMORANDUM TO: Park and Recreation Commission FROM: /~.//.?I Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director .. /( DATE: February 12, 1993 SUBJ: Visitor Presentations Two scheduled Visitor Presentations will be made to the commission on February 23, 1993. Chanhassen Estates Park Ginny, Nathan, Sam, and John Hamilton, 8019 Cheyenne Spur met with me on January 28, 1993, to discuss playground equipment (the lack of) at Chanhassen Estates Park. As the commission is aware, the park currently contains a 2-belt swing unit. Wood picnic tables have been placed in the park on an intermittent basis over the years. The commission's Five Year Capital Improvement Program includes $2,000 in 1993 for the purchase of heavy duty coated metal picnic tables, and $2,500 in 1994 for the installation of a basketball court. The Hamiltons will be addressing the commission in regard to their desire to see additional play equipment in the park. Reuuest to Sponsor the Chaska Junior Olympic Volleyball Program as an Affiliate of Chanhassen Park and Recreation Ms. Gail Murphy, 8500 Great Plains Blvd., will be addressing the commission in regards to the aforementioned issue. In a phone conversation with Ms. Murphy, I cautioned her that although the commission is very willing to review such requests, the city cannot be the sponsoring agency for every special interest group which Chanhassen residents take part in. The impetus for this request lies in District 112 Facility Reservations Policy whereas such organizations cannot independently schedule gym space. n ~., PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM Park Name: Chanhassen Estates Mini Park Address: 55 Lake Drive East Acres: 1 Class: Neighborhood Improvements 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 Wood Park 10 Sign 250. Picnic Tables(3} 2,000. Basketball Court 2,500. Play Area 00. TOTALS: 250. 2,000. 2,500. 00. Notes: y e e . . e e e ./! ,,) C ITV OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739 MEMORANDUM TO: Park and Recreation Commission 'lI/ FROM: Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Coordinator DATE: February 12, 1993 SUBJ: Neighborhood Meeting, Power Hill Park Attached is the letter sent to the residents of the Lake Susan Hills West neighborhood, alerting them to the neighborhood meeting being held by the commission. This meeting allows residents an opportunity to gain information about the future development of Power Hill Park, and is a forum at which residents can comment and have their questions answered. Elements of the meeting should include, but are not limited to, the following: 1. Welcome Residents, Chairman 2. Project Overview, Director 3. Opportunity for Resident Comments and Questions 4. Commission Member Feedback (Including Determining the Fate of the Proposed Tennis Court) 5. Closing Comments, Chairman and Director Commission members may be wondering why all these tennis courts in neighborhood parks were proposed and are now being questioned. The master plans for most of our new parks were developed prior to my promotion to department director. Upon assuming the duties of coordinating the development of the city's parks, it became apparent that the city had over- programmed for tennis courts. Thus, the need to address each proposed court on an individual basis. As noted in the resident letter, in addition to the double court proposed for Power Hill Park, a single court is proposed for Sunset Ridge Park, and a double court currently exists at Lake Susan Community Park. Additionally, a double court is currently proposed for Chanhassen Hills Park. n '-J PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER Park and Recreation Commission February 12, 1993 Page 2 As a part of this discussion, a consensus should be reached on which of these courts should be constructed in the future. A current estimate of cost to construct both double and single tennis courts is attached. It is unfortunate that all of these courts were included in the park plans in question, because as commissioners are aware, it is always easier to add an item than to eliminate current proposed amenities. I have attached a diagram which identifies the location of existing tennis courts in Chanhassen (the two at South Lotus Lake will be constructed this summer). Of the 16 courts, four are lighted--two at City Center Park and the two new ones at South Lotus Lake Park. Baseline standards for the number of tennis courts per capita range from one for every 1,500 to 2,000 persons. Service areas typically extend to a one mile radius. Source: National Recreation and Parks Association. The current population of Chanhassen is near 13,000. . e e e CITY OF CHANHASSEN C' 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739 February 12, 1993 Dear Resident: The Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission would like to invite you to a neighborhood meeting on February 23, 1993, at 7:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers at City Hall to discuss the development of Power Hill Park (see enclosed park plan). The city has allocated a maximum of $15,000 in the 1993 Park Acquisition and Development Capital Improvement Program for general improvements including final grading, seeding, entrance road and parking lot construction, and minimal landscaping work at Power Hill Park. In moving forward with these improvements, it is in the interest of all to solidify plans for proposed future amenities to allow the proper grading and site preparation to be incorporated into this initial work. You will notice the current plan identifies a play area, small picnic grounds, a community sliding hill, an open play field, and a double tennis court. A trail and its connections to Flamingo Drive, Bluebill Trail and Mallard Court is also identified. Current plans call for this trail to be a turf walk north of the entry road, and a bituminous trail south of the entry road. The connections between residential lots to Bluebill Trail and Mallard Court will also be bituminous. In addition to hearing neighborhood comments in regards to these proposed improvements, the commission will discuss the validity of constructing a tennis court in this park. Potential concerns include the secluded nature of the proposed site, the appropriateness of placing a tennis court on this site, the distance to parking, and the commission's increasing resistance to construct tennis courts in neighborhood parks. Community park sites are the preferred locations. A single tennis court is currently proposed to be constructed in Sunset Ridge Neighborhood Park and a double court currently exists at Lake Susan Community Park, one mile north of Power Hill Park. As you can deduce, this park is created from odd parcels of land which either due to their topography, use, or location, were not developable for single family homes. The park is also home to two retention ponds which collect storm water (look for the pipes on the drawing) prior to its discharge downstream. Only the open play field, the sliding hill, the area around the play equipment, and the turf trail will be maintained in a groomed grass condition. A reminder for those with homes abutting the park property, please do not encroach on the park through the placement of storage buildings, gardens, composting bins, or by mowing outside of your yard. If you are unsure of where your property corners are, contact your sales agent or call me and I will be glad to meet with you. n t~ PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER ~, - \ .~ , \ \/ " ./<\. \ ~ \\. \ '<~, I ') "- \ / /)----? / I " \ . --......, "- (, '- '- .... ,:::.~..'-"" \. ......... ............~-...::-- ---...... ~.. \' \~'\. " \ '" \ \ \\ \ \"...-'.-/ if -- , r \ J "" i / "- ~I ", L __ " " '-, ~ " / / / ~" ~ / J " ! I ,_/ .~ ":;~ ,C> i' " \ , ... ! n " n I I I I . / 0 \ : \ \ I ; 1 i1 , I ~I "'C!CT E:Unno~ ..... ~U' J I : f I \' ~l J, L.9lb-1 ;; I I ~I ' ,; ,{, ~I " ' ~ , ) / / l " ~ / /' ,,;"t"''\ ~,'6""''''<O'''<O/ . ";....,-06 l' 1 ) II I I _ / ) ,-,,'0_..) I :/ __--,I, , /J g\, / / ' __/ /1 '-, - / I ' '.'1. ,)< ~0( \\ \ . ~ ---- .__-81....___ / I / .----- '1 l... /,C< ...v.') ? .. <C, ...v.'i" I ~'<;<o/ .....7 / .! ,\,\,v. , 6<0 ";....'f ) "/'- . ~ 0", O~ "'0 'S;-o. ""'l- ~)-'- ,0/,0 , , \ . ~ I I f f . - 111111 . . t !If CHANHASSEN HillS PARK MASTER PLAN - City of Ch.nh....n. MInn..ot. lOJ *'.anDorEn ..Hazard Stallings '-,4:'" ".;~',r, . :\ architects enginEers planners _...,.~.....J;-~.~..:i.~~ ,.'t,.,;.:.. ",...n ,,- ...~ .::.~. PETITION 1~/92 ~ We the undersigned residents of the area to the north end of the proposed Power Hill Park in the ~ake Susan Hills West Subdivision, petition the Chanhassen City Park Commission and Council to direct that the final grading and grass seeding be done during the early Spring, 1993 in the open playfield area north of the pond in the proposed Power Hill Park. This, with minimal City effort and expense, will eliminate tall, troublesome, noxious weeds which have been growing there and allow for an open play area for the many small children living immediately adjacent to this "park in waiting." The neighborhood will greatly responsiveness in this regard. appreciate the City's ./ -I , ,I' / ,I' 'Y-. _ -// '--'~' "';-~~~~F /\ _ L /, .. Ll. Lt 'ka') ADDRESS J S'S / ~ 10 "",' , V\ cl /.) 7J /" . ~~S ~/ !%~/'yr' . j)~ ?~71 I .J;(Ijn~'Z<-f") /~ e' -' ". (, ') !: / /- ~/4 /{..{/!./<-:5--C /~.,J-( , {~L7 - i::!:; 0 F Ie,..-, ~Vf /h C? t' (] t~ - ~ ---------- I {', " ,/ /: ryJ .;l.....:.. oJ ~~ -; '.....~ ~ "c~if~( " -f~ Q ,_/~ (i.~[ r.;(/-{j r::--yy ~ j\ .J; J~,-f: (/4' d;'1s,C-"n (Clrj) ,// r. \ J.: c. i .,,r/.:q ~ if , ts;C/~ F1_ ~~ ~ I fLf PJ I/'-f(l~~ 11/7. .. PETITION e 12 /9 2 We the undersigned residents of the area to the north end of the proposed Power Hill Park in the Lake Susan Hills West Subdivision, petition the Chanhassen City Park Commission and Council to direct that the final grading and grass seeding be done during the early Spring, 1993 in the open playfield area north of the pond in the proposed Power Hill Park. This, with minimal City effort and expense, will eliminate tall, trouolesome, noxious weeds which have been growing there and allow for an open play area for the many small children living immediately adjacent to this "park in waiting." The neighborhood will greatly responsiveness in this regard. NAME U l-l tf(~ V rf\ MCA\\ ~l\rVV\ , e ,- ,o' ( . '" to u~ I . r I. , . I f I 'v I, /' --I 'l',' '- , ' '- i L , ( r 1 ',Y 'fA / I /~ L /"")-- . , , . '..' /(... ~....... . r " ,,'''''/l ....._\oo'~ _0hikt,l f\b1u,- N :fC~l"- I ,. J , '. 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II Ii I { { I I / PETITION e 1~/92 We the undersigned residents of the area to the north end of the proposed Power Hill Park in the Lake Susan Hills West Subdivision, petition the Chanhassen City Park Commission and Council to direct that the final grading and grass seeding be done during the early Spring, 1993 in the open playfield area north of the pond in the proposed Power Hill Park. This, with minimal City effort and expense, will eliminate tall, troublesome, noxious weeds which have been growing there and allow for an open play area for the many small children living immediately adjacent to this "park in waiting." The neighborhood will greatly responsiveness in this regard. appreciate the City's \ NAME i/). ':8; .,~ AJ J ltu'- '-.:-1'( t,'Wd Ju) ~i~ 1';-- ,,( \ ~ \ " u "l,\\~ 'j , ADDRESS .......-: <:;; V~I r I t:u~'\~ lC , ( ~ I ( 1.,\ :.\ , 'I '.'.1,,;; !\r(,,\ (-t, e /~ /JJ ~f1~ CI-, , \...J.- Y\ \.l )n ?'7?7 ~ ~ e . . I- Z <( u ::i 0- n. <( e e CITY OF CHANHASSEN PRC DATE: Feb. 23, 1993 4 -- CC DATE: HOFFMAN:k STAFF REPORT PROPOSAL: Preliminary Plat to Subdivide 76.74 acres into 93 lots on property zoned PUD, Lake Susan Hills West 9th Addition LOCATION: See location map APPLICANT: Argus Development, Inc. 18133 Cedar Avenue South Farmington, MN 55024 PRESENT ZONING: PUD-R, Planned Unit Development Residential ADJACENT ZONING AND LAND USE: N - PUD-R S - Park, Open Space E - Park, Open Space and Lake Susan W - PUD-R and Powers Boulevard (CR 17) ~ ~ I.1J t- - V) COMPREHENSIVE PLAN: See Attachment A, Development Contract dated December 8, 1987 COMPREHENSIVE TRAIL PLAN: See Attachment A, Development Contract dated December 8, 1987 Park and Recreation Commission February 23, 1993 Page 2 e DIRECTOR'S COMMENTS: This application falls under the jurisdiction of the previously referenced development agreement between Argus Development, Inc., and the City of Chanhassen. Actions necessary of the applicant to comply with this contract include: 1. Dedication of Outlot E to the city; 2. Construction of an 8 ft. wide bituminous trail along the west side of Lake Susan as indicated on Attachment B, Segments D* and E. 3. The construction of an 8 ft. wide bituminous trail along the east side of Powers Boulevard (CR 17) as indicated on Attachment B, Segment B. *Segment D is an existing trail segment constructed by Argus Development in an unacceptable manner. This segment will be replaced per city specifications. Upon review of the preliminary plat dated January 29, 1993, it was clear that Argus Development had taken the liberty of proposing four stormwater retention ponds be partially constructed on city park property (Outlot E). The proposed ponds are split down the middle with half being e located on the applicant's property and half on city property. First, I must say that this is an audacious designation on the part of Argus Development. The city has every right to deny this concept. As an alternative to this, however, I am proposing that the commission consider a bargaining position with the applicant. This "bargain" involves Items A, C and F on Attachment B. As noted in the current descriptions of these segments, the city is liable for the costs associated with these improvements. I propose that in exchange for allowing the applicant to encroach on park property, they be required to construct Segments A, C and F at their expense with no reimbursement from the city for Segment A. Furthermore, that all responsibilities and requirements associated with said trail segments, i.e. negotiations with Carver County, procurement of permits of any type, site preparation and restoration shall be the sole responsibility of Argus Development. I have discussed this proposal with Ron Isaac of Joe Miller Homes/Argus Development. Mr. Isaac or another representative of the applicant may be present to respond in this regard next Tuesday. In lieu of a personal representative, a written response will be forwarded. RECOMMENDATION It is recommended that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend the City Council require the following conditions of approval for the Lake Susan Hills West 9th Addition: 1. Dedication of Outlot E to the city. e . e e Park and Recreation Commission February 23, 1993 Page 3 2. Construction of an 8 ft. wide bituminous trail along the west side of Lake Susan as indicated on Attachment B, Segments D* and E. 3. The construction of an 8 ft. wide bituminous trail along the east side of Powers Boulevard (CR 17) as indicated on Attachment B, Segment B. 4. Accept the construction of trail Segments A, C, and F as identified on Attachment B as payment in kind for the encroachment by Argus Development on park property. This encroachment shall be limited to ponding of water as identified on the proposed preliminary plat. Furthermore, that the construction of said trails shall adhere to all stipulations previously identified herein. If the commission chooses to take an alternate position, you may choose to construct Segments A, C and F at city expense and direct the applicant to cease showing intent to encroach on city property. ~an dc/1' 7? c:/t- / ff~4// . I s ~hanhassen, Minnesot ~ MINNETONKA 2.7 I ---r-J ,. \" ~ --, I '\ r-~' 1 "'-" . , -........ w"'r;:~'" '~~ CHASKA' ~ ..l...,~la " I, 'I L4Ju 'MtV.^ I..a.it. i ~ :,,,-' CITY OF CHANHASSEN /!//~~;;Yl'el'i/;:- 4 DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT (Developer Installed Improvements) e LAKE SOSAN HILLS WEST SOBDIVISION, PHASE I ARGOS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT dated December 8, 1987, by a~d between the CITY OF CHANHASSEN, a Minnesota municipal corporation, ("City"), and Argus Development, Inc., a Minnesota Corporation (the "Developer"). 1. Planned Unit Development Agreement. The Development of this Plat is subject to a Planned Unit Development (P.O.D.) Agreement dated November 16, 1987. The terms of the PUD Agreement are incorporated herein by reference (Attachment A) . 2. Request for Plat Approval. The Developer has asked the City to approve a plat for Lake Susan Hills West (referred to in this Contract as the "plat"). The land is legally described on the attached plat, Exhibit "B". The preliminary plat was approved by the City Council on October 5, 1987. The final plat has not been submitted for approval as of the date of this Contract. 3. Conditions of Plat Approval. The City has approved the plat on condition that the Developer enter into this Contract and furnish the security required by it. e 4. Phased Development. If the plat is a phase of a multiphased preliminary plat, the City may refuse to approve final plats of subsequent phases if the Developer has breached this Contract and the breach has not been remedied. Development of subsequent phases may not proceed until Development Contracts for such phases are approved by the City. Charges and special assessments referred to in this contract are not being imposed on outlots, if any, in the plat that are designated in an approved preliminary plat for future subdivision into lots and blocks. Such charges and assessments will be calculated and imposed when the outlots are final platted into lots and blocks. 5. Effect of Subdivision Approval. (See P.U.D. Agreement). 6. Development Plans. The plat shall be developed in accor- dance with the following plans. The plans shall not be attached to this Contract. If the plans vary from the written terms of this Contract, the written terms shall control. The plans are: e Plan A--Preliminary Plat with August 27, 1987 revisions and dated "Received September 16, 1987", prepared by Probe Engineering Co. Plan B--Grading, Drainage and Erosion Control Plans dated October 20, 1987, prepared by Probe Engineering Co. Plan C--Plans and Specifications for Public Improvements with revisions dated December 22, 1987, and dated "Received December 30, 1987", prepared by Probe Engineering Co. Plan D--Landscaping Plan dated November 3, 1987, prepared by Probe Engineering Co. or materialmen are seeking payment out of the financial guaran- tees posted with the City, and if the claims are not resolved at least sixty (60) days before the securlty required by paragraph 13 of this Contrct will expire, the Developer hereby authorizes ~ the City to commence an Interpleader action pursuant to Rule 22, .., Minnesota Rules of Civil Procedure for the District Courts, to draw upon the letter~ of credit in an amount up to 125% of the claim(s) and deposit .the funds in compliance with the Rule, and upon such deposit, the Developer shall release, discharge, and dismiss the City from any further proceedings as it pertains to the letters of credit deposited with the District Court, except that the Court shall retain jurisdiction to determine attorneys fees pursuant to paragraph 25 of this Contract. 16. Timber Management Plan. The Developer shall arrange for the preparation of a Timber Management Plan by the Department of Natural Resources Forester for Lots 5 and 6, Block 1, and shall clear and reforest in accordance with this plan. Clearcutting will not be allowed. 17. Trails and Sidewalks. (See P.U.D. Agreement). 18. Parkland. (See P.U.D. Agreement). 19. Landscaping. The Developer shall provide for the installation of landscaping in accordance with the Landscaping Plan, Plan D, approved by the City. The Developer shall sod the drainage swales. All trees, grass, and sod, shall be warranted to be alive, of good quality and disease free at installation. All trees shall be warranted for 12 months after planting. e 20. County State Aid Highway (CSAR) 17. An access permit shall be obtained by the Developer for connection to CSAH 17 (Powers Boulevard). The Developer shall comply with the conditions of this permit. Carver County is anticipating widening CSAH 17 in the future. The Developer agrees to work with the City and the County in providing borrow sites for this widening at such time as this project moves ahead. 21. Existing Assessments/Connection Charges. Assessments exist against the plat from the Chanhassen Hills trunk water main Project 86-2. These existing assessments will be respread against the plat in accordance with City standards. The Developer acknowledges the City's connection charge policy and understands that each lot will be charged for its benefit in usage of the municipal utility trunks. This charge will be made as a part of each individual building permit. 22. Off-Site Easements. The Developer, at its expense, shall acquire all perpetual easements from abutting property owners necessary for the installation of sanitary sewer, storm sewer and water facilities within the subject property and thereafter shall promptly assign said easements to the City prior to the installation of improvements. -5- .1 ... ,-. t., . 4"'TTAc.."~~+ ,..-^'- \. ( I A - .- e PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ... AGREEMENT, dated November 16, 1987, between the CITY OF CHANHASSEN, a Minnesota municipal corporation (the "City"), and LAKE SUSAN HILLS, a Minnesota general partnership, and JAMES A. CURRY and BARBARA CURRY, husband and wife (the "Developer"). 1. Request for Planned unit Development Approval. The Developer has asked the City to approve a Planned Unit Development to be known as "LAKE SUSAN HILLS WEST PUD" (the "Development") on the land legally described on the attached Exhibit "A". 2. Planned Unit Development Concept Approval. The city hereby grants general Concept Plan approval of the plan attached as Exhibit "B". Approval is subject to the following: development and final stage e approval, a negative declaration of the EAW, compliance with the EAW review findings and compliance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement. Except as modified herein, each plat shall also be subject to the standards of the City's Zoning and Subdivision Ordinances as may be amended from time to time. 3. Density and Use. The following densities are approximate and subject to change: A. single Family Residential. The total number of single family lots in the development shall not exceed 411. Except as modified herein, single family lots shall be developed in accordance with the uses, standards, and requirements of the RSF Zoning District. B. Multiple Family (High Density Residential). The development shall provide a minimum of 21.5 acres of high density multiple family residential units. The total number of dwellin~~~~3f e r11/16/87 NOV 1 9 i987 CITY OF CHANHASSEi\1 .;, , /~ / ."high density multiple family residential property shall not exceed 375, or a density greater than 17.4 units per acre. Except as modified e herein, the development of the high density multiple family residential shall be in accordance with the uses, standards, and requirements of the R-12 Zoning District. C. Multiple Family (Mixed Medium Density Residential). The development shall provide a minimum of 23.6 acres of mixed medium density residential units. The total number of dwelling units of mixed medium density residential property shall not exceed 221, or a density greater than 9.3 units per acre. Except as modified herein, the development of the mixed medium density residential shall be in District. accordance with the uses, standards, and requirements of the R-8 Zoning 4. Parks. The Developer shall dedicate to the City Outlot F e (18.1 acres), Outlot G (9.8 acres), Outlot H (3.9 acres), and Outlot E. A credit of 6.7 acres for park dedication will be given for Outlot E. Unless otherwise required by the City, conveyances of the park land by the City. The land shall be platted as Outlots and transferred to the shall be made when the final plat, wherein a park is located, is signed City by warranty deed. The Developer, at its sole cost, shall grade the land for the City in accordance with a timetable and plans to be furnished by the City. The Developer shall be given a credit of 50% of the park fee per dwelling unit in the plat for the conveyance of the above described land to the City. The balance of the park dedication fees shall be paid in cash in an amount and at the time required by City ordinance and policies in effect when final plats are approved. e -2- e e e ';;w 5. Trail and Sidewalk Development. The Developer shall dedicate trails and sidewalks throughout the Development to the City as indicated on the Comprehensive Trail Plan. This dedication satisfies the City's trail dedication fee requirements. Trails shall be completed at the time street improvements are constructed in the phase where the trails and sidewalks or portions thereof are located. The Developer shall construct the following trails and sidewalks: (1) . Eight (8) foot wide bituminous trail along the west side of Lake Susan. (2) . Eight (8) foot wide bituminous off-street trail along the east side of Audobon Road; and an eight (8) foot wide bituminous off-street trail along the east side of Powers Boulevard. (3) . Five (5) foot wide concrete off-street trail-sidewalk along one side of all internal streets except cul- de-sacs when the streets are constructed. ( 4) . Twenty (20) foot wide bituminous off-street trail easement on the west side of Powers Boulevard. This trail segment shall only be constructed if ordered by the City Council. If ordered, the Developer will convey the easement to the City without cost, but the City will pay for the construction. Construction timing will be at the discretion of the City Council. 6. Additional Conditions of Approval. A. The Developer shall provide buffer areas, acceptable to the City, between multiple family and single family areas to assure adequate transition between uses, including use of berms, landscaping, and setbacks from lot lines. B. The Developer shall not damage or remove any trees except as indicated on the grading and tree removal plans to be approved by the City and submitted with eacl. plat. Trees shall be protected from destruction by snow fences, flagging, staking, or other similar means during grading and construction. -3- /t. __ ,-;-"? /77//9C$ff'EA I L,) e 8-Ft. Bituminous Trail DescriPtions, Lake Susan West Note: These descriptions do not preclude any requirements of the PUD contract. A. The city was paid cash as a part of an earlier phase in lieu of Joe Miller Homes' constructing this segment. In the interest of continuity, however, the city would like to remit this payment, $5,700, plus 5% and include this segment as part of the scheduled construction. B. New construction to be completed with this addition. Trail location must allow for construction this summer. C. This segment is outside of the project area, but again, in the interest of continuity, the city would like to have its construction included in these plans. The city will reimburse Joe Miller Homes for construction costs of this segment. D. Existing unacceptable trail segment. Initial construction was completed at substandard quantities and included poor grubbing and base preparation work. This segment to be removed and replaced in conjunction with the construction of Segment E. e E. New construction to be completed with this addition which includes two trail stubs connecting to the public street Southern reaches of the trail will require the use of a geotextile underlying fabric. Final design standards to be approved by the city. A trail stub currently exists at Barbara Court, which is the southern terminus of this trail. The city will construct the trail from this stub back to the new construction's terminus at the match line of the Lake Susan Hills West outlot and Chanhassen Hills outlot. F. This potential segment is being shown for consideration. A connection with the outlot from the street in this area makes a great deal of sense, allowing for non-vehicular traffic to flow from Lake Susan Hills Drive to the outlot. pc: Ron Isaac, Joe Miller Homes Dave Hempel, Assistant City Engineer e , .;_..... , ,...... I ~;;. . . e , >0 . , ,. 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"'- ;21 ~. ~ c '" ~ F rt> a r- .- e I. , e I- Z <t () :J 0- a.. <t e ~ 3 w I- - (I) Ie CITY OF CHANHASSEN PRC DATE: Feb. 23, 1993 -- ,j CC DATE: HOFFMAN:k -4 STAFF REPORT PROPOSAL: Rezoning of 17.2 acres from A2, Agricultural Estates to RSF, Residential Single Family and Preliminary Plat to Subdivide 17.2 Acres into 35 Single Family Lots LOCATION: East of Galpin Boulevard, one-half mile north of Highway 5 (see location map) APPLICANT: The Rottlund Company (Michael Klingelhutz) 5201 East River Road, Suite 301 Fridley, MN 55421 PRESENT ZONING: A2, Agricultural Estates ADJACENT ZONING AND LAND USE: N - A2, Agricultural Estates and RR, Rural Residential S - A2, Agricultural Estates E - RR, Rural Residential W - Galpin Boulevard; RR, Rural Residential CO MPREHENSIVE PLAN: See attached memo to J 0 Ann Olsen, Senior Planner dated February 10, 1993 COMPREHENSIVE TRAIL PLAN: See attached memo to Jo Ann Olsen, Senior Planner dated February 10, 1993 Park and Recreation Commission February 23, 1993 Page 2 RECOMMENDA TION It is recommended that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend the City Council require the following conditions of approval for Windmill Run: 1. The city shall accept full park fees to be paid at the time of building permit application at the rate then in force in lieu of parkland dedication; and 2. A 20-ft. wide trail easement shall be granted to the city along the applicant's westerly property line. Furthermore, that this easement shall be included in the Grading Plan for the project with a suitable trail bed being prepared. This trail bed may meander within the easement alignment at the discretion of the applicant, but the eventual alignment must be conducive to future trail construction and is subject to approval as part of the grading plan review. Planting of trees shall be restricted to areas east of the trail bench. Full trail fees shall be collected at the time of building permit application at the rate then in force to assist in the financing of the future trail connection. e e e e :0 ex: IoU.... LA < :.:: w a: ::l w .. o e Miue...bta Ret'iotial "'-, ~" adoorl. r, .., '000.., 8 <'-.; ("'"') 8 ~I I o > ...J c:l W Z JONATHAN e "II T' r-r-..,.,..r- ........~... . C ITV OF CHANHASSEN . e 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739 MEMORANDUM TO: ]0 Ann Olsen, Senior Planner ~ FROM: Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director DATE: February 10, 1993 SUBJ: Preliminary Plat, Windmill Run, The Rottlund Company The Park and Recreation Commission will be reviewing the aforementioned land development proposal on Tuesday, February 23, 1993. These preliminary comments are being forwarded to t alert you to the issues the commission will be ~dressing: Parkland The proposal lies within a park deficient area, but due to its size, most likely will not be considered as a candidate for land acquisition. The city's parkland dedication ordinance would allow the taking of 1.4 of the 17.2 acres being platted for parkland. This acreage is insufficient for a neighborhood park, and in my opinion, does not represent a "nest egg" to build upon. My recommendation to the commission will be to accept full park fees to be paid at the time of building permit application in lieu of parkland dedication. e Trails The Comprehensive Plan identifIeS Galpin Boulevard (CR 117) as a trail alignment A current analysis to determine which side of the road this trail will be constructed identifies the east as the better candidate. To accommodate this construction, a 20-ft. wide trail easement will be required of the applicant. This easement shall be granted on the westerly property line. The alignment shall be included in the overall grading plan for the project with a suitable trail bed being prepared. This bed may meander within the easement alignment at the discretion of the applicant, but the eventual alignment must be conducive to future trail construction and is subject to approval as part of the grading plan review. 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CC DATE: HOFFMAN:k $ STAFF REPORT PROPOSAL: Site Plan review of a 16, 410 sq. f1. office/warehouse facility on 13 acres of property, Technical Industrial Sales LOCATION: Lot 3, Block 1, Chanhassen Lakes Business Park 5th Addition, at the Northwest corner of Park Place and Park Road (see location map) APPLICANT: Mark Undestad Eden Trace Corporation 1057 Stoughton Avenue P.O. box 105 Chaska, MN 55318 PRESENT ZONING: lOP, Industrial Office Park ADJACENT ZONING AND LAND USE: N - lOP S - lOP E - lOP W - lOP COMPREHENSIVE PLAN: This proposal lies within the park service areas of Lake Ann Park, Lake Susan Park, and Sunset Ridge Park. COMPREHENSIVE TRAIL PLAN: Park Road, unfortunately, is not identified on the City's Comprehensive Plan Park and Recreation Commission February 23, 1993 Page 2 RECOMMENDATION It is recommended that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend the City Council require full park and trail dedication fees as a condition of approval for Technical Industrial Sales in lieu of land dedication or trail construction. These fees to be paid at the time of building permit application at the rates then in force. .. . e e e -, e e e FABRIC SILT FENCE DETAIL ( (NOTE: PLACE SILT FENCE AROUND SITE PERIMETER AT THE PROPERTY LINE ON WEST, SOUTH AND EAST SIDES AND A T GRADING LIMITS ON NORTH SIDE. ( ( l N srAT[ HICHW,l.Y PARK CCIJRT C.SAH, />10, f6l ~ ~ ." ~ ( VICINITY MAP NO SCALE { ( ( ( l DEVELOPER Eden Trace 1057 Stoughton Avenue ,. - en e 0 c:: ::) , ~~ r · ~ z - ....~ l · t (J)g -z_ t Q. " Qi s/ Q ....'0 13; I/I!IIII:" I I~ Z~ ~ nlfl UW L_ n~ -, 'I d ., . , -, 0 f! 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FAX (612) 937-5739 MEMORANDUM TO: Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director FROM: Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation Supervisor ~ :..../ , "'" DATE: February 18, 1993 SUBJ: 1993 Picnic Reservation Fees It is important that we as a department look at our picnic reservation fees on an annual basis. Picnic fees for Lakeside, Parkview and Lake Susan were developed in order to offset costs associated with the offering of this service. During the summer of 1992, $2,896.86 in park reservation fees were collected. Looking ahead to this summer, I am confident that our picnic sites will generate even more revenue. This summer is going to offer an exciting opportunity with the addition of the new Lake Ann Picnic PavilionlRecreation Shelter. This beautiful facility has many amenities which will appeal to user groups. The size and character of the Picnic Pavilion/Recreation Shelter is unlike any other in the metropolitan area. The City of Chanhassen can be proud to offer this building for rent. Staff is proposing the following as fees for both resident and non-resident: For a resident group with 50% of those in attendance being residents of Chanhassen; $80.00 (tax included). Those not qualifying for a resident status; $187.00 (tax included). Non-profit/senior groups shall receive a 25% discount on the rental of this new facility. The reservation of this site, as well as all other picnic areas, requires each group to submit a refundable damage deposit of $200.00. This deposit is returned in full, providing the group leaves the picnic area and building as they found it. A portion of all of the damage deposit is retained in the event something is damaged or excessive litter or trash was left behind. n ~~ PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER Mr. Todd Hoffman February 18, 1993 Page 2 ~ e Fees for Lakeside, Parkview, and Lake Susan Shelter are listed for your review. LAKE ANN PARK. LAKESIDE 40 - 150 people Resident Group Non-Resident Group Refundable Damage Deposit Non-Profit/Senior Group Discount LAKE ANN PARK. P ARKVIEW 100 - 400 people Resident Group Non-Resident Group Refundable Damage Deposit Non-Profit/Senior Group Discount $27.00 (tax included) $80.00 (tax included) $200.00 25% discount $27.00 (tax included) $80.00 (tax included) $200.00 25% discount LAKE ANN PARK. PICNIC PAVILION/RECREATION SHELTER Fire Code occupancy number unknown at the present time Resident Group $80.00 (tax included) Non-Resident Group $185.00 (tax included) Refundable Damage Deposit $200.00 Non-Profit/Senior Group Discount 25% discount LAKE SUSAN PARK 50 - 200 people Resident Group Non-Resident Group Refundable Damage Deposit Non-Profit/Senior Group Discount e $55.00 (tax included) $160.00 (tax included) $200.00 25% discount It is staff's recommendation that the Park and Recreation Commission approve the proposed fees as outlined above. The revenue generated from these established fees is deposited into the city's general fund. .1 - e CHANHASSEN PICNIC INFORMATION LAKE SUSAN PARK: Park shelter available May 1 thru September 30. Accommodates groups of 50 to 200 people. Amenities: 25' x 45' covered shelter with stone fireplace and lights, electrical outlet, water spigot, bathrooms, picnic tables, trash receptacles, play area, sand volleyball court, ballfield, basketball court, tennis courts, fishing pier and boat access. Recommended group reservation rates: Resident Group (50% of those attending are residents of Chanhassen) Non-Resident Group Damage Deposit-Refundable (provided there isn't any damage to site) Non-Profit/Senior Group Discount $ 55.00 (tax included) $160.00 (tax included) $200.00 25% Group receives exclusive use of the shelter area, all other park facilities are subject to use by the general public. LAKE ANN PARK: Parkview Group Reservation Picnic Site available May 1 thru September 30. e Accommodates groups of 100-400 people. Amenities: Large grass picnic area, picnic tables, grills, trash receptacles, portable restrooms, sand volleyball court, horseshoe pits, ballfields, play areas, swimming beach, fishing pier, boat access and tennis court. Recommended group reservation rates: Resident Group (50% attending must be residents of Chanhassen) Non-Resident Group $27.00 (tax included)+ 1 parking permit/vehicle $80.00 (tax included)+ 1 parking permit! vehicle $200.00 25% Damage Deposit-Refundable (Provided there isn't any damage to the site.) Non-Profit/Senior Group Discount Group receives exclusive use of the picnic area and its volleyball court and horseshoe pits. All other park facilities are subject to use by the general public. LAKE ANN PARK Lakeside Group Reservation Picnic Site available May 1 thru September 30. Accommodates 40-150 people. Amenities: Grass picnic area adjacent to lake, picnic tables, grills, trash receptacles, portable restrooms, swimming beach, play areas, fishing pier, boat access, sand volleyball court, ballfields and tennis court. e Damage Deposit-Refundable (Provided there isn't any damage to the site.) Non-Profit/Senior Group Discount J $27.00 (tax included)+e 1 parking permit! vehicle $80.00 (tax included)+ 1 parking permitivehicle $200.00 25% Recommended group reservation rates: Resident Group (50% attending must be residents of Chanhassen) Non-Resident Group Group receives exclusive use of the picnic area. All other park facilities are subject to use by the general public. LAKE ANN PARK Park Pavilion/Recreation Shelter available May 1 through September 30. Amenities: 40' x 40' covered shelter has lights, electrical outlets, access to water, bathrooms, grills, trash receptacles, swimming beach, boat access, fishing pier, boat rental, concessions, and birds eye view of Lake Ann. Rates will be determined at the February 23, 1993, Park and Recreation Commission meeting. e e e CITY OF CHANHASSEN t " I ~ 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739 MEMORANDUM TO: Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director FROM: Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation Supervisor 1^ DATE: February 18, 1993 SUBJ: Contract for 1993 4th of July Fireworks For the sewnd year in a row, the City of Chanhassen has entered into a private agreement with Banner Fireworks Company to provide the City's 1993 4th of July fireworks display. Banner has proven to be a reputable company, complying with all safety regulations and setbacks. e The fireworks display will occur at 10:00 p.m. on Sunday, July 4, 1993, at Lake Ann Park. In the event of inclement weather, the date of Friday, July 9, 1993, has been added to the contract as an alternative display day. The contract with Banner Fireworks is in the amount of $7,000.00, as approved by the City Council as part of the 1993 budget. This cost includes a $1,000,000 public liability and property damage insurance policy and state sales tax. It is staff's recommendation that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend the acceptance of the fireworks display contract with Banner Fireworks Display Company in the amount of $7,000.00. e n ~J PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER BANNER FIREWORKS DISPLAY CO. 9840 2715t Ave. Zimmerman, MN 55398 612-856-2838 FAX: 612-856-2839 FIREWORKS DISPLAY CONTRACT r , '? c.... This Contract entered into this ...l.L- day of 1"" p ~. 1991> by and between " , \ , e BA~~ER FIREWORKS DISPLAY CO.. 9840 - 271st Avenue. Zimmerman. Minnesota 55398 (hereinafter "Banner") " and C 11'"'1 (')-t- c.. \0\. Q. fV h cu s p ~ (hereinafter . 'Customer"), I, Banner. for and in consideration of the sum of $ -',00 0 to be paid at hereinafter set forth, agrees to furnish to Customer 0 tv e... Fireworks Displa~ as per program submitted and by this reference made a part hereof. including the services of Banner's Expert Operators to be in full charge and to fire said display . to be given on the evening of .:rv\'1'-'./f~~ ,v.eather permitting, 2, The parties agree that should inclement weather prevent the display program on the day specified above. the display will be given on the evening of ::r~, I ~ c/,. Irf 3 . or such alternate date as may be mutually agreeable, 3, In the event Customer cancels the program entirely. for any reason. Customer agrees to pay Banner to Percent <-) of this Contract. and Banner shall retain ownership of all fireworks, Notice of such cancellation shall be given to Banner at least 48 hours before the program is scheduled to commence, 4, Customer agrees to furnish. at its cost. to Banner. sufficient space for the safe and proper presentation of the fireworks display. a dry place to slOre and prepare the tireworks. all necessary police protection. necessary manual (non-expert) labor to assist in assembling and disassembling the dlspla~, 5, Upon execution of this Contract. Customer shall make a down payment of ""'\.A1,., I' ~ D \ J ~ a u{4. A e,..\ I Q.. C ~ ($ ':)." 00 0 ), The balance of the Contract price shall be paid by the Customer on or before :r ~ J \ "f ~ ", \ ~ ~3 as follows All deferred payments on this Contract shall be due on the dates specified and if not paid shall bear an interest rate of Eighteen Percent (18 o/c ) e per year (II,', '7r per month) on any remaining balance, 6, Public Liability and Property Damage Insurance In the amount of \) 00 O. DO 0 in favor of both parties will be provided by <6 0. IV ..., ~ r at its' expense, Prior to the commencement of the fireworks display. an insurance binder evidencing the existence of the required insurance shall be provided. 7, The parties agree that this Contract shall not be construed as intending to effect a partnership. nor a joint venture. Each party agrees thaI it shall be responsible for its separate and individual debts, Both parties acknowledge that there are no agreements. except as are contained herein, 8, In the C\ ent Customer fails to pay an~ amounts due under this Contract. the costs of collection. including reasonable attorneys fees. shall oe paid b~ the Customer. 9, An~ amendments to this Contract shall be in writing and executed by the parties in the same manner as this Contract. 10, ThIS Contract shall be interpreted under the laws of the State of Minnesota and any disputes arising out of this Contract shall be resolved by arbitration through and in accordance with the rules of the American Arbitration Association. ] I, The panies mutually and severally guarantee the terms, conditions, and payments of this Contract which shall be binding upon the panies heirs. executors. administrators. successors and assigns, IN WITNESS WHEREOF. Banner and Customer. by and through their authorized agent, have executed this Agreement on the date first shown above, _= ~:.. vi .~~[) ::6010(J~J 1)otJ As.~.h.oO~T\4 (Print jl{ type name) ~ /1' 1 J.1 A t.Nt<C E.rt- Ti11b I T'f of C#AtJHP.SoS e~ Or!!anlut ion BANNER FIREWORKS DISPLAY CO. B'~~. ~ lts ? e F [f. l' ''> 1 ~ ,- ':' I...J ,",' .........J ( --, ~ r- .- r-. I ., ,.. (' r"- , , e e e , L t is FINALE: ......-... ,.', -~' :~! \ l.. t f, ," .r". ~l .)~'"",~"",,,")..""..' ,.'.....-...-:-:. ." '. . '" , ... " .' .,.. ..... '1" < .....t~:~>~(~t~.\. ,.(............../' ,!" ::;)~~~f...,., l' I~e.. '.. ,...........;....._ I....." (' ../.> ':::;;:':\';~:::;~~>~.>;, (;~': "'#,:~ .. . //: ,,I' ,.:.. ';'''\,'~':'', ", ~N ~;~.... ...~t~ . : ,..'t .... .~ "I'~\'I';;''''\- 'I' . " ,0 . " ,",'. ...,"','t..;;.to/.. ,I I . . I,' ',." ....... ''''''''.~'l,'v.-''1'~,,,-'''' " . . J!' .:" ..:' t' , . ~t..\i~.~!~.. . J ""-.. r I ',ft. 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FAX (612) 937-5739 MEMORANDUM TO: Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director FROM: Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation Supervisor jf\ DATE: February 12, 1993 SUBJ: Friday Night Teen Night Out Evaluation For the second year in a row, a joint effort between Chaska Park and Recreation, Community Education District 112, and our department was formulated to offer three Teen Night Out dances. For the second year in a row, the teen dances were well attended. The activities offered at the Teen Night Out included swimming, volleyball, dancing, music and prize give-a ways. The activities offered provided a fun, safe atmosphere for kids. The swimming pool was not used as much as we had hoped. Next year, the activity of swimming at the teen dances will not be offered. All three dances were at the Chaska Middle School with an admission fee of $3.00 per student. The first dance was from 7:00 - 9:30 p.m., with the next two from 7:00 - 9:00 p.m. The time change was implemented, because during the last half hour, the kids were increasingly active and rowdy. The elimination of the last half hour helped curtail the problems we were experiencing. Another way problems were eliminated was adding Chaska Police Officer Norm Prusinski. Norm is the school liaison. so all of the kids knew and respected him. The presence of a uniformed officer mitigated many problem situations. During all three Teen Night Outs. a celebrity disc jockey was hired to add some notoriety to the dances. The OJ's included Andrea Vincent, Kevin Tyler and Lee Va1svik, who all work for KDWB Party Music. Included in the price of the OJ was a prize package which included KDWB T-Shirts, cups. CD's, cassette tapes and frisbees. A total of 12-15 chaperons were arranged for each Teen Night Out. Chaperons were parents of middle school students who volunteered their time,. Having this number of chaperons helped minimize problem situations that may have occUrred without having them placed in these strategic spots. For the kids attending the December Teen Night Out, if they brought a non- n ~., PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER perishable food item for the Carver County Food Shelf, a free concession item was given to them. A total of four big boxes were collected for this wonderful cause. We, as a group, thought it would be a good experience for the kids to have a project like this so they could feel good about themselves for helping others in need. All three Teen Night Out Dances were successful again for the second year in a row. The average attendance was around 300 kids per dance. The dances will begin again in October of 1993, for a total of three dances. I would like to add a karoake machine, more prizes, and additional concession items. , . e e e I ~ e e e PROGRAM EV ALVA TION FORM ( I1q() - W13) . Code No: DcT ;13 I :J w c;a Program Name .--- /eev M8hT (juts Quarter Program was offered: w SP SU F Number of Sessions Offered: (Jee:.- /) Total Number of Participants: qtJo Length of Class (minutes) Length of Class (weeks) Meetings/Week: Class Fee: Should this program be offered again? ~'} ~ Comments on program: ~p )() ~,~ ~ ~ ~p (/dl Ju~..{ - bk0' .-1{.i,'~~.\:; r C" - A~ 0P0L ~fv-h ~vJ - J Nu~' ,ttti:;ii(,1 eveJ- REVENUE q[C) . No. of Participants x $ 3;DO Fee x $ No. of Teams Fee t1"J~~~~ 't)ttRot':'R& x $ Refunds Fee Total = d7t:;O = = !;S-7. liS- = \ EXPENSES ~ e A. Salaries Total B. Contractual Service~: 1. Bus Rental 2. Miscellaneous Services 3. ~ ~. (3 114Jlb) 020 /. bO 4. (; rh s- t. 3i 5. Pn.,.-ty 'l1tAS!b 9m.oo Pohc.e I ~7. SO 13~o. 81 Total C. Supplies: 3 ~ 1. ttl.-~/ ~ - '73 8' 7 Cmf egrfH ~plies ' 7 2. Equipment 3. Tiekets ;J~'l wL~f~ Cis;5-. 77 d~'1~ ;Ja{). OC) Total 1.~Li. H e AMOUNT BUDGETED ACTUAL TOTAL REVENUE ~ d 5- 7. J-ls- TOT AL EXPENSE dd 79,58' BALANCE "1" Cf/7. <37 73 C!~ e e e qh C ITV OF CHANHASSEN - 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739 MEMORANDUM TO: Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director FROM: Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation Supervisor 7/\ DATE: February 16, 1993 SUBJ: Afton Alps Ski Trip Evaluation The final teen ski trip was Friday, January 29, 1993, at Afton Alps Ski Area in Afton Minnesota. The fee for the trip for juniors needing a lift ticket and transportation was $14.00. Adults were $19.00. Those needing rental equipment added $9.00 to the $14.00, for a total of $23.00. Adults added $11.00 to the $19.00 for a total of $30.00. This trip was offered during the day because the students had the day off for a teacher's workshop. This trip was very popular due to the no school day. A total of 124 people attended the ski trip to Afton Alps. Two buses and a trailer were needed to accommodate all the skiers. Buses left the Chaska Middle School at 8:45 a.m., and returned at 5:50 p.m. Taking into consideration the chance of an injuring happening, Dawn followed the buses with a staff car. Taking this precaution seemed to be a good luck charm, nobody was injured out of the 124 students and chaperons that went along. I would strongly advise this procedure be continued for next year's ski trips. I was very pleased in the way the trip ran. When taking 124 people skiing, there is always a chance for something to happen. Having enough chaperons and ironing out all the details before the trip made it one of the most successful ski trips yet. The students really enjoyed the two trips that were offered. H we would have offered another trip, I am sure it would have filled up as well. Next school year, I would like to increase the trips back to three. It would also be fun to take a day trip to Spirit Mountain. The trips for the third year in a row, have been successful. This program has a strong base that can grow for years to come. n ~., PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER PROGRAM EVALUATION FORM Program Name A/l1Nv 1l(?~ Strr -r;u~ su F fl) Sp Code No: Y sfJ Cf3 II Quarter Program was offered: Number of Sessions Offered: / /94 Total Number of Participants: Length of Class (minutes) Length of Class (weeks) Meetings/Week: Class Fee: Should this program be offered again? ~') Conunents on program: 3 ~ ~f ~ .6-[t t{~(J.t;~/ REVENUE '81 i s.~ 3 l)O '37 I. -1/4. ex..? 4 \' ~tftO i?- )( 30 ,,~ Fee ::; I ~G.;"3 ,?() ~ !:>i g ,'".0 - /J{,; . q;", _ ~~ t-t) ~5j,-'7 U) f~4 No. of Panicipants x $ x $ = No. of Teams Fee = Donations 7 x $ = IdO, t.10 $ ~~37 tJO Refunds Fee Total e e e e EXPENSES A. Salaries B. Contractual Services: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. C. Supplies: 1. 2. 3. Bus Rental Miscellaneous Services Craft/Program .Supplies E~uipment .= ~~'~(J~ TIckets ~ C/ Total ~ 'lO ,. "0 IC)q .:J. LJO AMOUNT BUDGETED TOT AL REVENUE TOT AL EXPENSE BALANCE ~ &1M4 @ 'JJ7,tJ{) Total 4 3S-, CV Total / q to; iJO ACTUAL pLj .3 7 tJO ;) 3 3..>-, ()~, T )D,).OO e e e ~. G-. CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900 . FAX (612) 937-5739 MEMORANDUM TO: Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director Dawn Lemme, Program Specialist D~ . FROM: DATE: February 17, 1993 SUB]: Winter Program Update The following is a list of winter programs (not including seniors) that were offered, and their status as of Saturday, February 13. The only programs that are still running are Men's Basketball League, and Karate. Otherwise we are finished until mid-March, (aside from senior programs which continue on a year round basis) when spring programs begin. Cross Country Skiing Lessons Session 1 Session 2 Session 3 Session 4 7 6 7 14 Total 34 people Tiny Tot Tours Canceled Winter Break Camp Canceled Daddy/Daughter Date Night 11 couples (Daddys/Daughters) Energy Express Canceled Prime Time 8 couples (child/parent) Craft Connection 10 children ft ~J PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER Yuletide Paperworks Canceled e Bowling Party 39 children Ski Trip (Wild Mountain) 61 teens Ski Trip (Afton Alps) 121 teens Snow Tubing Canceled Kids Klub 11 children Birthday Bonanzas December 4 parties January 4 parties February 2 parties It seems that the craft classes are catching on, and the parent/child offerings, as well. Unfortunately the Tiny Tot Tours did not go this winter, although 3 successful trips were taken in the fall. We will be trying 2 more in the spring hoping to get them up and going again. A first time Valentine's event was the Daddy/Daughter Date Night. All eleven couples enjoyed an evening of special one-on-one time with their daughter or dad, as well as fun decorating a card for moms, frosting and decorating cookies, playing LOVE Bingo, and having a caricature done of themselves. Cross Country Skiing lessons, taught by an instructor from Prairie Cycle and Ski, went well. The e weather cooperated, and these lessons will definitely be run again next year. Birthday Bonanzas for children have also been a new and growing activity held at the Senior Center. These will continue through May and end temporarily for the summer and start up again in the fall. e . Ie e e // CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739 MEMORANDUM TO: Park and Recreation Commission FROM: ;f/ Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Coordinator DATE: February 18, 1993 SUBJ: Work Session, Recreation Section of the Comprehensive Plan As the commission is aware, I have asked Mr. Mark Koegler of Hoisington-Koegler Group to actively participate in the updating of the Recreation Section of the Chanhassen Comprehensive Plan. Mark has identified a proposed work program and a proposed schedule for your consideration. If the commission chooses to take hold of this schedule, input on Task I will be necessary next Tuesday. This information would then be analyzed and packaged by Mr. Koegler and myself for presentation to the commission in March prior to addressing Task 2. As such, the Park and Recreation Commission meetings noted on the project schedule represent the March 23, April 27, May 25, and June 29 meetings. As earlier discussed by the commission, the length of time necessary to address one or more of these tasks may require a special work session. Mark has a previous engagement which necessitates his attention next Tuesday, but has indicated he will attempt to be in attendance at our meeting. As commissioners recognize, this work effort and the resulting changes in the Comprehensive Plan are significant. Homework is required. pc: Don Ashworth, City Manager Paul Krauss, Planning Director Mark Koegler, Hoisington-Koegler Group, Inc. n ~J PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER Hoisington Koegler Group Inc. mil fill . I e- February 16, 1993 Mr. Todd Hoffman Park and Recreation Coordinator City of Chanhassen 690 Coulter Drive P.O. Box 147 Chanhassen, Minnesota 55317 Dear Todd: In response to your request, I have prepared a work program and proposed schedule for the updating of the Recreation section of the Chanhassen Comprehensive Plan. The update focuses on all portions of the plan with an emphasis on adding a section that will provide specific future park site recommendations. The work program is an expansion of the framework comments that were presented in my letter of January 18, 1993. If I can answer any questions or if you need any additional information on this matter, please contact me. I will try to be in attendance at the meeting on February 23, 1993. e Sincerely, ~~~~ --- R. Mark Koegler, RLA Vice President RMK:dbm RECEivED ~ t (:~ 1 '( 1993 e CITY OF CHANHASSt:t''l Land Use I Environmental · Planning / Design -300MetroBoulevard/Suite525 · Minneapolis, Minnesota 55439 · (612)835-9960 · Fax:(612)835-3160 I e e e Task 1 - Review Goals and Policies Review and update recreation goals and policies to reflect changes that have occurred. The goals and policies should reflect Chanhassen's vision of what its park system should be in the next 10 to 20 years. Task 2 - Facility Inventoxy The inventory of existing park facilities in and around Chanhassen will be updated. Inventory information will specifically include regional facilities and existing municipal parks within the City of Chanhassen. Graphics in the current plan such as the inventory of existing park facilities (page 12) will be updated. Task 3 - Recreation Demand and Need The Demand and Need sections of the existing plan will be updated to generally include the following: A. Demand - Where available, updated local and regional survey information will be added to the plan. B. Need - In order to assess general park needs, population ratio standards and specific facility standards will be reviewed. Standards will be applied to anticipated populations in the years 2000 and 2010. C. Land Use Based Need - Chanhassen's current parks serve the existing developed portion of the community. As the city continues to grow, additional parks will be needed to provide recreational opportunities for new residents. This section of the plan update will specifically focus on projecting needs within the undeveloped portion of the community that lies within the existing MUSA line. In order to determine need, development densities and uses will be examined based on the adopted future land use plan. This analysis will result in a detailed identification of park deficiency areas. Task 4 - 2000/2010 Recreation Plan The Recreation Plan will be updated to generally include the following: A. General Observations and Recommendations - Update as appropriate. B. Existing Parks - Update to reflect all changes such as the possibility of limiting tennis court development to community park facilities. c. Proposed New Parks - Based on the Need information developed in Task 3 (C), provide specific recommendations for future park sites within the existing MUSA line. Recommendations on new parks will include specific locations as well as total acreage requirements. This informa tion can be used by land owners and developers in preparing site plan submissions. I e D. General Rural Use Area Recreational Resources - Future land use has not been defined within the General Rural Use Area. Correspondingly, it is impossible to designate specific future park sites within this area. Therefore, the plan will identify major recreational resources within the General Rural Use Area (Non MUSA). Such resources may include but not be limited to tracts of mature tree cover, unique vistas, and other natural amenities. Task 5 - Trail Plan The Trail Plan will be amended to include future park sites and other recreational resources that are identified in the Recreation Plan. e Project Schedule Task 1 ::::::::::::::::~::::::::::::::::::u !11i!i!~1~1~~~1;~~~~r1ijjji~itg Task 2 ::::::::i:i!iii:i::ii!liii:::ii:i:i:::::::::::!:!iiiiiii:i:i:::i:: Task 3 :il:il:i:i:!!i:::iiilliiiiiii:;;iliiiill:::!l:;;i~lni:il:iiiiiiiliii;~l:il:i:ili ;:iiiiii~ii:i:~:iH:i:i:i:~:i:Ii!:::~i::~iiit:i::::::::n~:i:iili:::~:::i:li::::::::1 l:~iiilit.~iii:i!i:~::i:::i:i: :iii!ii~iiIi!i!iiiIii!Ii:l! Task 4 TaskS 1 2 Months 3 4 ~ Park and Recreation Commission Meetings e . e e e /,1-17;; g - C ITV OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739 MEMORANDUM TO: Park and Recreation Commission 7fI FROM: Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Coordinator DATE: January 20, 1993 SUBJ: Comprehensive Plan Amendment, Recreation Section The Recreation Section of the City's Comprehensive Plan is in need of updating and revision. To accomplish this, will require a great deal of effort by both the commission and staff, with assistance from the consulting firm of Hoisington-Koegler Group, Inc. The driving force behind this update is the desire to add a Comprehensive Park Plan to the Recreation Section. Upon doing so, it is also necessary to amend the park and trail dedication section of the City Code. This amendment would require that when a proposed park, playground, recreational area, or other public ground has been indicated on the city's official map or Comprehensive Plan, and is located in whole or in part within a proposed subdivision, it shall be designated as such on the plat and shall be conveyed to the city. This work eff crt affords us the opportunity to do much more as well (see letter from Mark Koegler dated January 18, 1993). At this time, it is my desire to provide the commission with the materials needed to begin this process. Attached you will find a copy of the Recreation Section of the City's Comprehensive Plan, a copy of the city's zoning and land use maps, and a letter from Mark Koegler of Hoisington-Koegler Group, Inc., concerning an initial meeting we had in this regard. If you desire a complete copy of the City's Comprehensive Plan to assist you in this process, please advise me and a copy will be made available to you. Upon setting the stage for this process, I have invited Mr. Koegler to attend your February 23 Park and Recreation Commission meeting. At that time the commission, staff, and our consultant(s) will move forward in a more definitive manner ensuring that this update be successfully completed. Mr. Koegler will be introducing other members of the staff at Hoisington-Koegler Group, Inc., who will be working on this project either in person or by name on the 23rd. pc: Paul Krauss, Planning Director Mark Koegler, Hoisington-Koegler Group, Inc. n ~J PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER Hoisington Koegler Group Ine. mm fill . e January 18, 1993 Mr. Todd Hoffman Park and Recreation Coordinator City of Chanhassen 690 Coulter Drive P.O. Box 147 Chanhassen, Minnesota 55317 Dear Todd: As a follow-up to our recent meeting, I have reviewed the existing Recreation section of the Comprehensive Plan. It is my understanding that you and the Park and Recreation Commission are interested in updating the existing plan with the intent of adding material specifically recommending locations for future park sites. This information would clearly portray the City's park needs and plans. As such, it would simplify the park review process since developers and land owners would know the City's intent in advance of initiating their own site planning a activities. - In order to accurately reflect future park needs, the Recreation section of the Comprehensive Plan needs to be coordinated closely with the Plan's Land Use section. In Chanhassen's case, planned land use is fairly well defined within the current MUSA line and less defined outside of the urban service area. In the General Rural Use Area (outside existing MUSA), a number of large scale uses exist such as the Arboretum and Bluff Creek Golf Course. These uses significantly reduce the amount of "urban" development likely to occur in these areas thereby making the task of projecting future uses somewhat easier. The following is a list of initial comments pertaining to the plan update: . The existing plan's text and graphics should be reviewed and updated as necessary. Specifically, have any changes in goals and policies occurred? The narrative on existing parks should be amended to show improvements that have occurred over the past three years. Park standards should also be critiqued. Do the population ratio and facility standards identified in the plan need any modification? . Proposed land uses within the existing MUSA line need to be analyzed. The development pattern shown on the future land use plan needs to be combined with the densities projected in the plan to project the number of anticipated park users within areas that are presently undeveloped. Population ratio standards and facility standards e Land Use I Environmental · Planning / Design "":Jon Metro Boulemd! Suite 525 · Minneapolis, Minnesota 55439 · (612) 835-9960 · Fax: (612) 835-3160 . Mr. Todd Hoffman e January 18, 1993 Page Two can be applied to this projected park user base to determine the amount of future park land that will be needed as well as its preferred geographic location. This analysis effort should also include anticipated expansions of the City's commercial and industrial uses to accurately account for their future recreational needs. · If Chanhassen desires to examine detailed future park needs on a city-wide basis, it will be necessary to review future land use in the General Rural Use Area. In order to accomplish this task, it will be necessary to project future land uses. This effort will require the involvement of the City's planning department and Planning Commission. Any decisions pertaining to future land uses in this area would have no formal status in the eyes of the Metropolitan Council. As such, these projections may at best serve as an indicator of possible uses rather than a definitive statement of future policy. Therefore, park recommendations for this area would be considered preliminary and would need to be further refined in the future as the MUSA line is extended. . Expanding the scope of the current Recreation section of the Comprehensive Plan to include specific park site recommendations sets the stage for subsequent modifications of the City's park dedication ordinance. The ordinance could be structured to specifically recognize the sites identified in the Comprehensive Plan, thereby providing a clear indication of the properties that Chanhassen intends to acquire through the land dedication process. e The material presented herein is intended only as a general framework for the updating of the Recreation section of the Comprehensive Plan. If the Park and Recreation Commission concurs with the need to identify future specific park sites, a more detailed program outlining the specific tasks that need to be accomplished can be easily developed. It will also be necessary at the initiation of the updating process to decide whether or not to include the General Rural Use Area in preliminary form or to exclude this area at the present time and defer all park decisions until such time as the MUS A line is amended. If I can answer any questions on this material or if you have any additional comments, please feel free to contact me. Sincerely, ~~~ - R. Mark Koegler, RLA Vice President e RMK:dbm . . e ADMINISTRATIVE SECTION Letter from Metropolitan Council dated February 12, 1993. Letter to Dennis Saari dated February 11, 1993. Fax transmittal from Justin H. Perl dated February 4, 1993. Letter to Duane Shodeen, DNR, dated January 27, 1993. Memo to Paul Krauss, Planning Director, dated January 27, 1993. Letter to Michael C. McDonough, Water Recreation Specialist, dated January 25, 1993. Letter to Todd Hoffman dated January 12, 1993. Letter to Jim Jones, MCES, dated January 25, 1993. Letter to Jerry Hoffmann dated January 25, 1993. Vandalism report from Carver County Sheriff s Department dated January 10, 1993. Summer job listings for Park and Recreation Department. Youth Commission Agenda dated February 9, 1993. New program evaluation form for Park and Recreation Programs. Senior's "Saturday Night Special" flyer. Senior's "Tax Aid Program" flyer. Senior's "Chorus Group" flyer. Senior's "Medications & You". Letter to Charles Folch dated February 1, 1993. METROPOLITAN COUNCIL Melin Park Celllrc. 230 &.151 Fifth SIITCI. 51, Paul, Mi'.' 55/0/-/634 6/2 29/-6359 F4X 6/2 29/-6550 m' 6/~ 29/-0904 . TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD R:f I; .. ~- "'~ February 12, 1993 FEE 1 '- I, ., ,'-' . Don Ashworth City Manager City of Chanhassen 690 Coulter Drive Chanhassen, MN 55317 C'TV OF ~-,_ Dear Mr. Ashworth: The Transportation Advisory Board has completed its review of the project applications submitted for inclusion in the 1993 Interim Federal Surface Transportation Program (ST?) funding of Bikeway and Walk."\",ays. The bikeway/walbvay project(s) you solicited was not approved for funding in calendar year 1993. Attached is a summary of the Board's analysis of all projects solicited. A total of 72 projects were submitted. Traditional bikeway/walbvay projects were initially reviewed to determine if qualifying criteria were met. Based upon this initial review, some projects were elin>>nated for one of the following reasons: (1) Failing to address the qualifying and/or priority criteria directly, (2) the project failed to serve a significant transportation purpose (3) the project failed to meet minimum funding requirements or (4) the project was already under construction. The remaining projects were evaluated based upon the priority criteria. The spreadsheet lists the projl.:cts that were rated in a prioritized order. Due to funding constraints the Board decided to only fund the highest five rated projects. Innovative projects diu not receive a priority rating. Each project was evaluated for funding hy group consensus. Criteria considered included innovativeness, transferability, population ser.'cd. and how well the project serves a transportation purpose. Three projects were funded. . Due to the wide variation in contents of proposals submitted, the Board has decided to conduct a proposer's forum in order to assist in the preparation of future proposals for STP/CMAQ funding. A new solicitation is planned for sometime in April, 1993. The exact date and location of the forum will be announced at a later date. If vall h3ve any questions please contact ~1r. Emil Brandt, Transp:Jrtation Coordinator. Transportation Advisory Board or Mr. David Engstrom, Principal Engineer, Metropolitan Council. at 291-6347 and 291-6320, respectively. SincerelY, G~tCtJ ~t<t LT Sally Evert ,'! Chair, Transtrortation Advisory Board Attachment cc: Todd Hoffman e RECOMMENDED PROJECTS FOR FEDERAL FUNDING 1993 BIKEWAY AND WALKWAY . STANDARD BIKEWAY AND WALKWAY 1. NAME: FEDERAL COST: AGENCY: DESCRIPTION: 2. NAME: FEDERAL COST: AGENCY: DESCRIPTION: . 3. NAME: FEDERAL COST: AGENCY: DESCRIPTION: 4. NAME: FEDERAL COST: AGENCY: DESCRIPTION: e Bloomington Bike and Ride Facility $174,000 City of Bloomington The project consists of on-street bikeways, off-street bituminous bike paths, signage, bike lockers, racks and promotional material designed to create a bike and ride system to and at the Mall of America Transit Hub. 5.5 miles of striped/signed bikeway lanes will be developed along 84th, 88th, and Old Cedar Avenue. 2.3 miles of bituminous bike path will be constructed on 86th and Old Shakopee Road linking to the Mall of America. Cedar Lake Park Transportation Corridor $500,000 City of Minneapolis The City will construct a 3.1 mile long alternative transportation system adjacent to the Burlington Northern right of way. The system will consist of 2 directional bikeways and a separate pedestrian way linking the St Louis Park/Golden Valley area with Downtown Minneapolis. BN Regional Trail Corridor $240,000 Ramsey County This project consists of construction of a 2 mile off-road facility on an abandoned stretch of railroad. The facility will proceed along the abandoned Burlington Northern (BN) railroad line from Beam avenue in Maplewood to the east-west Willard Munger State Trail. This facility will connect a regional shopping center on the north with the Willard Munger State Trail on the south. City of Roseville Non-Motorized Pathway Proposal $458,014 City of Roseville Construction of a continuous 4.8 mile, barrier free, bikeway/walkway through Roseville which interconnects with existing and proposed local and regional off-road corridors. Construction will occur along County Road C from Fairview to Rice Streets and from County Road C south along Fairview, Snelling and Rice streets providing connections to regional business and retail facilities. RATINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS BIKEWAY AND WALKWAY PROJECTS - 1993 NO. JURISDICTION FED ERAl.. TOTAL LOCAL TOTAL SHARE PROJECT SHARE(% ) POINTS STANDARD BIKEWAY AND WALKWAY .... ...-.........,..................................... . - .. ................ . .,-, ....,.................................-.....-.......... ..,........... ........... .................................................... ............. ............ .............'........................................ .........,. .............. r::::::::::::!:::.:::I~j~: :.~~#:q:::::::::::::(:qf:f::f .. )?::::::::::::::::~'t~~i:: .........- .,.,........ .. . ........................ ..............................-.... ........................... . ...."..... ,.,........... :::::.!::::::.::::::::.:::);~;~.:: . . . . . , . . 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Parks 13,000 26,000 50 590 20 Shakopee 88,000 110,000 20 580 12 Eden Prairie 125,000 170,000 26 570 57 White Bear Lake 73,740 92,175 20 570 55 Hennepin Parks 75,000 150,000 50 545 68 Robbinsdale 320,000 400,000 20 520 51 Shoreview 280,000 350,000 20 505 47 Maple Grove 320,000 400,000 20 480 23 Collage Grove 28,736 35,920 20 470 5 Brooklyn Park 400,000 500,000 20 465 52 Shoreview 328,000 410,000 20 450 63 Oakdale 142.500 240,300 41 450 25 Washington County 112,187 146,135 23 435 14 Eagan 373,360 478,700 22 425 22 Chanhassen 72,000 90,000 20 425 27 Washington County 234,516 293,146 20 425 54 Hennepin Parks 87,s00 175,000 50 425 64 Oakdale 46,816 79,002 41 425 48 Shoreview 347,760 434,700 20 420 69 Coon Rapids 44,000 55,000 20 405 10 Fannington 80,000 105,000 24 400 60 Anoka/Ramsey (Cily) 129,770 187,212 31 400 46 West SI. Paul 38,400 48,000 20 390 . . e . . e 31 Fridley 140,240 175,300 20 32 Fridley 44,440 55,550 20 33 Fridley 41,600 52,000 20 34 Fridley 70,080 87,600 20 37 MnlDOT 38 MnlDOT 39 MnlDOT 43 Rockford 99,412 104,412 5 45 Apple Valley 52,000 65,000 20 49 Shoreview 60,000 75,000 20 62 Vadnais Heights 44,500 89,000 50 71 MnlDOT . TOTAL 1,230,752 1,527,962 .i .-_. .-' ,-,. />. ........... t ... ..... FUNDED TOTAL ..... ...... . ..... . \1;73",76 1.555,595 GRAND TOTAL 8,612,774 11,625,854 · Projects were first screened for meeting qualifying criteria. The group of projects listed above failed to meet one or more of the following criteria: 1. Failure to address the qualifying criteria directly. 2. Failure to address the priority criteria directly. 3. The project fails to serve a significant transponation purpose. 4. The proposal failed to meet the minimum local funding match. 5. The project was already under construction. CITY OF CHANHASSEN . 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900 . FAX (612) 937-5739 February 11, 1993 Mr. Dennis Saari Wm. Engelhardt and Associates, Inc. 1107 Hazeltine Blvd., Suite 480 Chaska, MN 55318 Dear Dennis: {<". In planning for the upcoming installation of ,the irrigation system at Lake Ann Park, it is important that I alert you to new developments in this area. The city has made the decision to regrade the soccer field prior to the installation of the field's irrigation system this spring. This grading will be completed in-house and will include drainage improvements (piping) on the . field's west side. This grading will be completed in an expeditious manner, allowing the project to stay on track. Secondly, the city will be operating the concession stand at the ballfields this summer. As such, I definitely want the pump, backflowpreventer, etc. to be located in auxiliary housing on the exterior of this building. The control panel, however, is to remain as a component of the building, This scenario was discussed among all parties at the pre-construction meeting held on October 20, 1992. The status of the discussion at that time was that Mr. Moriaty would look into this and provide infonnation back to the city. Please follow up in this area, Lastly, it is critical that this contract be completed in a very efficient and timely manner this spring. Please address this with Mr. Moriaty and remind him that scheduling of these fields initiates in late April. The interests of all can be protected only if substantial completion of this project is realized before April 30, 1993. I look forward to hearing from you in these regards. Sincerely, __ ~ //;;#~ Todd Hoffman Park and Recreation Director ;.': .-""" ~:';~:.:~" - pc: Dale Gregory, Park Superintendent Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation Supervisor Mark Koegler, Hoisington-Koegler Group, Inc. e ft ~ J PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER FEE 4 '93 11:13 FROM MASLON LAW FIRM TO 99375739 PAGE.001 ----- " ! ;' /;--1 I /u .~........... . ~ D~JlnT'l'DL It V- r--t J. i<~.~ '/ ~/~,r OIJl'-"' 6e ~ IJ) DSLOIf E>BLDv.,.lI\. , ...I1m 3300 Jrorwaat cater Ilimleapoli., .. 55.02 ('12) '72-IZOO ~.leooplar: ('12) "2-13'7 ~: The City Manaaer. City of Chanhassen PAZ .uKBBR: 937-5739 'RLDBon JroXBBR: PROM: Justin H. Perl . o.TE: February 4. 1993 'l'OTAL WXBD OF PM" (Iaclu4ug cover .bHt): 2 CLIENT/XA~BR BUKBJa: A22500 I 91-1506 IXKEDU'1'B JIO'l"I FI CAlf 1011 0"' uumaftUo ("f/_) I Yes ~8: Please deliver directly and immediately. Thank you. - The information contafned in this facsimile messaae is attorney privileged and confidential iDtended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this ~ b DOt the intended recipient, or the employee or aaent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby DOtified that oy dissemination, distribution or copying of this commnnl(-ation is strktly prohibited. It you have reaaived this communication In error, please immediately notify us by telepbOlle, and return the origjnaJ message to us at the above address 'ria the U.s. postal serrice. e - If you do not receive aU of the pages, please call 672-8303. r~~ ...; +-J 01. i ' .-- :MA.sLON EDELMAN BoRMAN & BRAND . MAlVIN IClItMJ.Io: CBAJl:.l:S ~- ....."ltA. ~ .m. l>-u. .. SE;.l. ~...~E ~G~ WI:.UAIl! E WlTUJl. WlULUI z. ~m:;."V'!!aI .IOl!U'Ii ~ IIICIlAA I. e;ow Gl.a1' J. ..welD' ~K~ IlIDOCA ..~ ~ ....t.'lU..,'lI DA.Wlr. _ .. 1.\ 1IX!NCt PUla)T IlIQ1AID G. 1I"IUON UCII\ . SZIIMIIDCl u,1IIII:NCZ " lIZIAPIIO .,.,~ IL _all' . ~ K 1lIO'l'D I LADY ... KOC8 ~1A ... IIZU. &IrmI1l PDL 000fII" Aa.n .:lIW.tl... ~ IllA&T L \" ASo\1. Y ~ C&\l'IIlI CLAa T. WIImAClP 3300 NClRWQT CEl'oo'TER NINNEAP"OLIS. WtSNE80TA ~140 ClJ12) ~ FAX telal e7a.&3fn .Ana;.. ~ IIAW:IlT ~ WUD6 ....'( P. IICIl.Al'l'A caatJ!2ii ... ~ .-u , IZ%II:ZaWl II:IWlD ... aIG'F IWIlt w. 1&1 ~I.MIA IIa.N I. ~ MJ:IH" ~T rA2IlICL\ 1..- AlOIA I. ~o ~ ""ADm ~ J. ELm: .wa:s r, IL\NNDW/ .a.uou.m T lW.II ~... IW/oEI% ,..--J). ~ a.aIa. t'. um 8DWl~ - IUItIII. a ~ ... February 4, 1993 The City Manager City of Chanhassen 690 Coulter Drive Chanhassen, Minnesota 55317 RE: B & 0 Underground, Inc., and Robert Frovarp Our File No.: A22500 I 91-1506 VYA J'ACSnULB ~ CBRTIPIED MAIL Dear Madam or sir: P lease be advised that this law firm represents American National Bank ana Trust Company with respect to one of its accounts, B & D Underqround, Inc. and Robert Frovarp. In that re9ard, please . be advised that American National Bank obtained a judgment against B & D Underground, Inc. and Robert Frovarp on January 12, 1993 in the amount of $12S I 241. 65. In addition, American National Bank and Trust Company holds the security interest in various collateral of B . D Under9round, Inc., including but not limited to, all accounts of B & D Underground, Inc., defined as accounts receivable or other obligations owing to B 'D Underground, Inc. now or hereafter existing, in which B , D Underground, Inc. has a right to payment for goods sola or leased or for services rendered. On February 3, 1993, you were identified as one of the accounts recei vable of B & D Unaerqround, Inc. Please confirm the amount owing to the unaersigned and forward any payments due and owing on the account directly to American National Bank and Trust Company, c/o Mr. Ronald Zweber, 101 East Fifth street, St. Paul, Minnesota 55101. If any payments are made directly to B , D Underground, Inc. after receipt ot this notice, you may still ))e held liable to American National Bank and Trust Company tor failure to make said payments to it. We look forward to hearing trom you. SincerelY, JHP/kjh e cc: Mr. Ronald Zweber . C ITV OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900 . FAX (612) 937.5739 Mr. Duane Shodeen Regional Fisheries Manager Department of Natural Resources 1200 Warner Road St. Paul, MN 55106 f.?../~ !~~ ~-* /? Go~ j TeA I ,/ L..-V-;( la/ ~ /;.. I( e ~. orr"" ..;.., ,.-1-7 .j Je<"- ,I A.rU (Uc,j j ~ Co'- -:1"~ /7 f arYl _ ~ /; e <vi- /Y /II f\ ~ u- .J1 ..I "- rJ.. c- 7'" '- rJ.,... ",,1y_ i-/. ,j,) C e .. (# / c::.e'- .v f 7'0 H.. /~;( ~ ? t'V-t ~ -....-/- A .t~~ - "!i'....J",,,....s ~, ,r f .;:r.;.r '--] I Dear Mr. Shodeen: ,...... . ~ , "."p I 7 fc- , f. v'" On behalf of the City of Chanhassen, I respectfully submit the enclosed application for a permit to install and operate an aeration system in public waters, i.e. Lake Susan. The operation and maintenance of this aeration unit would fall under the auspices of the city's park and recreation administration and maintenance departments. As you are aware, in addition to the progressive management initiatives being carried out by the DNR on Lake Susan's behalf, the city is very interested in sustaining this resource. Planned land acquisition has allowed the city to secure ownership of over 50lk of Lake Susan's shoreline, thus minimizing potential alterations to riparian areas. The city has invested a great deal in the development of Lake Susan Park, a 32- acre community recreation area which includes a public water access and an 84-ft fishing pier. The procurement of the subject permit and the future acquisition of a portable pump and baffle aeration system represents one of the final steps in the master plan for Lake Susan. I would be happy to discuss my interests in Lake Susan with you further. I can assure you that this application is being submitted with a full awareness of the city's responsibilities for public safety and welfare. The city is supportive of the regulations mandated by the DNR in regard to aeration systems, and intends to comply fully. Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely, ~O~- Todd Hoffman Park and Recreation Director pc: Don Ashworth, City Manager Dale Gregory, Park Superintendent Administrative Section, February 8, 1993, City Council Packet Administrative Section, Fewary 23, 1993, Park and Recreation Conunission Packet '- ~ PRINTED ON RECVCLED PAPER e CITY OF CHANHASSEN . 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900 . FAX (612) 937-5739 MEMORANDUM TO: Paul Krauss, Planning Director ~ FROM: Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director DATE: January 27, 1993 SUBJ: Comprehensive Plan Amendment, Recreation Section As you are aware, the Park and Recreation Commission will be amending the Recreation Section of the City's Comprehensive Plan over the next six months. The major impetus for this action is the desire to adopt a Comprehensive Park Plan. Numerous general housekeeping items will also be completed in this process. Attached you fmd a report presented to the Park and . Recreation Commission on January 26 in this regard. An article which will appear in the city's spring newsletter is also attached. Please inform me of the Planning Commission's desires in becoming involved in this process and appropriate measures to accommodate them will be taken. This may include, but is not limited to, a joint meeting of the two commissions and/or the assignment of a Planning Department staff member to attend Park and Recreation Commission discussions in this regard. pc: Don Ashworth, City Manager e n ~., PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER . CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN"MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739 January 25, 1993 ~M _ cJ~~ /L d1 c-tJ? Dear Mr. McDonough: .1 ~v ,,-1/f;(;L/,-.;-/ t7 H/I /~.., /J~' ~ ~'7j;'J 4Y Mr. Michael C. McDonough Water Recreation Specialist Trails and Waterways Unit 500 Lafayette Road S1. Paul, MN 55155-4052 The City of Chanhassen welcomes your investigation of possible shore fishing sites on Chanhassen lakes. From your observations, you can see that the city feels strongly about providing access to a variety of fishing opportunities. Shore fishing from piers, docks, and flat . spots, in addition to public water accesses, are important resources in the city. I am confident the parking situation at South Lotus Lake Park can be adjusted to accommodate shore fishing. The city would like to continue to be considered for future funding for improving shore fishing at South Lotus Lake. I look forward to your continued correspondence in this regaL. Sincerely, .-;;:;:;;~ Todd Hoffman Park and Recreation Director TH:k pc: Don Ashworth, City Manager Administrative Section, February 8, 1993, City Council Packet Administrative Section, February 23, 1993, Park and Recreation Commission Packet e n ~ J PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER rJs STATE OF I. 1~(N)rn~(Q)u~ DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES \ 500 LAFAYETTE ROAD · ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA · 55155-40 . January 12, 1993 4' ~EF/,/.I!/~'E )'t:?/?/R~ ~ 0//t:!";- p~~~/~/#~,e...Y' /.;e//4~E-:f/ ~//.? ~ ~eAY/ "- /?P' 1~?/?3 ~ iff A' ~I \(fC/ . ~-. f .11C;:g ;(;!~Jq >>O;fI/A DNR INFORMI. TION (612) 296-6157 Todd Hoffman . City of Chanhassen 690 CoutJer Drive, Box 147 Chanhassen, MN 55317 Dear Mr. Hoffmann: We have evaluated over 40 sites for the LCMR (legislative Commission on Minnesota Resources) funded shore fishing pilot project. The sites were prioritized based on a number of factors Including: availability of fish, proximity to population. ability to modify site to meet the needs of people with disabilities. access to site, parking, existing infrastructure, efforts by the local govemment unit to contribute to the process and geographic distribution across the seven county Metro area. We feel Lotus Lake merits a fishing enhancement based on the above criteria and because there has been a significant investment to improve fishing by Installing the fish barrier on the lake outlet. We looked at three sites on the lake and feel that the best location Is adjacent to the boat ramp on the south shore. When compared with sites metro wide this site was ranked In the second priority level. This . means we will not pursue development of the site In the first phase of our pDot. However, I feel It Is a good site and will definitely consider It for future funding If you are Interested. The parking situation at this site Is not Ideal because most of the parking Is located up the hDI; however, we thought that this could be addressed by utilizing one of the two designated handicapped parking spaces for boat and trailers for shore fishing. The parking situation would have to be worked out before we could develop a project. It seems that It would be even more difficult to meet the needs of people with disabilities at the other two parks on the lake. We also looked at Lake Ann, which has a DNR fishing pier and Lake Susan, which has the same type of pier purchased by the city. We feel these piers adequately serve the present fishing needs on these lakes. I wUI contact you later In the year about the possibility of developing a project on Lotus Lake. If you have any questions, please feel free to call. Thank you for your Interest In Improving shore fishing opportunities In your community. Michael C. McDonough Water Recreation Specialist Trails and Waterways Unit 500 Lafayette Road St. Paul, MN 55155-4052 (612) 297-2798 RECEIVED JAN 1 5 19931 CITY OF CHANHAS N AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER . . . CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739 January 25, 1993 Mr. Jim Jones, Director Minnetonka Community Education and Services 261 School Avenue Excelsior, MN 55331 Dear Jim: Thank you for your understanding in regard to my questioning of the billing sent to the City of Chanhassen for a "city share" of Minnetonka Community Education and Services. As discussed, the agreement which this city share is based upon is over 20 years old, and was founded on principles which I feel no longer are applicable. I appreciate your thoughts that this investment by the city brings with it some accountability by your organization. However, in discontinuing this subsidy, we agree that the residents of Chanhassen living in District 276 will continue to receive the same quality services they are today. I will recommend payment of the invoice dated January 6, 1993, in the amount of $1,125.00 to Minnetonka Public Schools for the city's share of Minnetonka Community Education and Services for the year 1993. I will not, however, be anticipating this billing again in 1994. Again, thank you for your attention in this matter. Sincerely, ~* Todd Hoffman Park and Recreation Coordinator TH:k pc: Don Ashworth, City Manager n ~J PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER C ITV 0 F CHANHASSEN . 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN. MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739 January 25, 1993 Mr. Jerry Hoffmann 6830 Utica Terrace Chanhassen, MN 55317 Dear Mr. Hoffmann: I am in receipt of your letter to the city dated December 20, 1992. I am happy to react to and respond to the issues you raised concerning bicycle trails. 78th Street: I concur with your findings that West 78th Street is not conducive to bicycle travel. I also agree that serious riders do not fmd the concrete sidewalk north of the street a good alternative. I do, however, observe a good amount of family and other low speed bicycle riding occurring on the sidewalk. Your alternative route of utilizing Coulter Drive, Chan View, and West 77th Street is a good one. . Connections to Eden Prairie Trail System: Your route, as explained in your letter, to access the Eden Prairie trails via Valley View Road, although disjointed, affords riders a good comfort level. Councilperson Mark Senn is currently exploring options available to the city for the construction of a trail along Highway 101 from South Shore Drive to Pleasant View Road. Unfortunately, as I am sure you can recognize, the costs that would be associated with this construction are significantly higher than with other more typical trail segments. I can assure you that even under these difficult circumstances, the city will continue to advocate the constrUction of this trail as identified on the city's Comprehensive Plan (see enclosure). In the interim, I encourage you to explore the new trail along the north side of Highway 5 which leads directly to Eden Prairie. The future also promises an additional connection with Eden Prairie south of Highway S. leading east from Rice Marsh Lake Park. Connections to Chaska Trail System: As you can see, the Comprehensive Trail Plan identifies three connection points to the City of Chaska. I understand your concern over the safety and desirability of currently available bicycle routes to Chaska. However, I am unable to force the extension of the trails identified on the city's Comprehensive Trail Plan. Trail development, as you can understand, corresponds with the upgrade of roads a in our city. This scenario of joint construction of roads and trails leads to a high design · n ~ J PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER . Mr. Jerry Hofh1ann January 25, 1-:;;3 Page 2 standard for trails and results in the most economical construction costs. However, continued development, be it residential or commerciaVindustrial needs to occur prior to many of these road improvement projects being initiated. Don't misunderstand me. The points you raise continue to be accurate. At present, however, I can only advocate your continued patience in awaiting the future development of these bikeways. Access to the Arboretum: The trail which the Minnesota Department of Transportation (MnDOT) constructed as a part of the Highway 5 project currently terminates at Powers Boulevard. The city's trail (which is deteriorated due to age and construction damage) picks up from this point to Lake Ann Park. Again, in this case, I advocate your patience. From all indications, MnDOT will continue the trail from Powers Boulevard west to Highway 41 with their next phase of Highway 5 construction. This leaves the challenge of completing the connection to the Arboretum and beyond to the new trail being constructed along Minnewashta Parkway. The wide shoulders on Highway 5 from Highway 41 to the Arboretum provides a viable interim solution prior to a permanent trail being extended. Unfortunately, the interim solution for access to Minnewashta Parkway is not as good (the city will explore an internal connection through the Arboretum property). . In closing, we have found common ground in your reference of access to the Carver Park Reserve via the north railroad grade. Our family, however, initiates our rides in Victoria, travelling east to Excelsior, then south on Powers Boulevard to Chanhassen. Recent dramatic shifts in federal transportation policy, i.e. the Intermodel Surface Transportation Efficiency Act (lSTEA), is bolstering an exciting future in bikeway transportation. The city continues to keep abreast of these new transformations in policy and will take advantage of them at every juncture. If you would like additional information on the future of bicycle routes in Chanhassen, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you for your comments in this regard. Sincerely, ~q~ Todd Hoffman Park and Recreation Director pc: Don Ashworth, City Manager Charles Folch, City Engineer .;rdministrative Section, February 8, 1993, City Council Packet ~ministrative Section, February 23, 1993, Park and Recreation Commission Packet e - - . A , I I , I arr OF 0iAJI.iAssEN Trail Plan . Wafkway/Bik.way ...... Nature Trail -.1 --J _...J :~ --- 5 .e Connection Points _. , ". , :'-1: -. -.- 6 - - _. - - J-.."f' . _. - ,. .. -r , ~ - -.- , 'r,.", - 7 , , , , ...,.., . .... - '"' / - . 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PLAYGROUND DIRECTOR Plans, directs, and coordinates recreation activities associated with Summer Discovery Playground program for ages 4-11. Supervises playground leaders, all outings, and special events related to the playground program. (Approx. 35 hours/week) SKILLS: Strong leadership skills. Ability to plan, organize, and conduct recreation activities, ability to supervise and work harmoniously with playground leaders, must inspire others, and show enthusiasm and understanding of children. Motivation, dependability, and creativity a must. Some previous experience in recreation or teaching is preferred, but not required. ST ARTINGIENDING DATES: Approximately June 7, 1993-August 13, 1993 . SALARY RANGE: $7.00-$7.50/hour PLAYGROUND LEADER Leads recreational activities associated with Summer Discovery Playground program. Under the supervision of the playground director, helps plan activities such as crafts, games, and sports for children ages 4-11. (Approx. 30 hours/week) SKILLS: Enthusiastic, genuine interest in children, ability to lead activities and inspire sponsmanship, and work harmoniously with fellow employees. Dependability and motivation a must STARTINGIENDING DATES: Approximately June 11, 1993-August 6, 1993 SALARY RANGE: $5.50-$6.00/hour . TENNIS SPECIALIST -- Plans, coordinates, and instructs a comprehensive tennis lesson program for youth and adults using curriculum guidelines of the United States Tennis Association. Also responsible for the coaching and coordination of Chanhassen's USTA Junior Tennis Team program. (Approx. 25-30 hours/week) SKILLS: Ability to effectively instruct, plan, and organize pre-beginner to intermediate levels of tennis. Must be enthusiastic and understanding of others, willing and able to handle various skill levels, age groups, and sizes of classes, and promote good sportsmanship techniques. Motivation and dependability a must. Previous experience preferred, but not required. STARTING/ENDING DATES: Approximately June 11, 1993-August 13, 1993 SALARY RANGE: $7.50-$8.00/hour GATE ATTENDANT Responsible for supervision of park users, gate building, park facilities, and selling of parking permits. Opens and closes park gates, records daily attendance, and inspects water craft. SKILLS: Should possess strong people skills with an ability to communicate with the public. Capable of submitting required reports, and balancing daily cash receipts. Dependability and . flexibility a must. STARTNG/EJ\1)ING DATES: Approximately May 1, 1993-September 11, 1993 SALARY RANGE: $5.00-$6.00/hour CONCESSIONAIRE Responsibilities include daily inventories, dispensing food and drink, operating a cash register and general upkeep of the concession building. SKILLS: Motivated and flexible individual with strong people skills. Able to deal with public effectively and professionally. Some physical and organization work required. STARTING/EJ\1)ING DATES: Approximately May 21, 1993-September 11, 1993 SALARY RANGE: $5.50-$6.00/hour . The City of Chanhassen is an Equal Oportunity/AfflTDlative Action Employer. For further information on any of the jobs listed, please call 612-937-1900. RECEIVED FEB 081993 CITY OF L;Hr(')~A5SE\'\ Youth Commission Agenda - Feb. 9, 1993 1. Call meeting to order; accept the minutes. 2. League of Women Voters presentation. 3. Recruitment planning for the coming term. 4. Appoint Chanhassen and Chaska adult members,presentation by Chad Peterson and LeeAnn olinger. -- 5. Discussion of Governor's Youth Service Awards. 6. Discussion regarding Values Week, re: Decorations & Fireside Chat. Volunteers? 7. Discussion on "Youth Summit" in Forest Lake for youth. 8. Update on Governor's Youth Advisory Council from Natalie Rossini and Chris Czerwonka. 9. possible Declaration of a Volunteer Week. 10. Treehouse Discussion. . 11. Ideas for Youth Involvement in the upcoming referendum. 12. Distribute other copies of Leadership Lab information. 13. National Youth Leadership Training April 14,15,16 14. Reselect and adopt the logo. 15. Any other business. . . . . . Youth Commission Minutes The special meeting was called to order by Chad Peterson at 7:00, on February 1,1993 in the ECC building. Members present were Tanya Bishman, Natalie Rossini, LeeAnn Olinger, Molly DeBower, Chris Czerwonka, Jeanne Straus, Rich Lambert, and Susan Hurm was present observing. She will possibly become the Chanhassen Adult Representative. Phyllis Lindstrand arrived at 8:10 p.m. Susan Hurm and Phyllis Lindstrand will be appointed to fill the term at the next meeting provided a quorum is present. The main order of business was to update all members on the Youth Commission's selection to be a Leadership Lab in MN, and also what our role will be. Tanya Bishman gave an update concerning this after Jeanne Straus and herself had attended a workshop on January 14,1993. A copy of notes for the workshop were given to members with a listing of other councils and members represented. Some quick key points were: -We are part of a "research project"; ~e have forms to show observations and also outcomes/processes; we are expected to create a small addition for a Inter-lab newsletter three times -Don't work "to" youth, or "for" youth, but work "with" youth -We need to work in a Democracy with youth, disregarding common excuses not to. -Everyone is a possible leader, leaders (youth or adult) are not perfect. -Remember: Action takes time!; Relationships ENHANCE content.; and make certain your beliefs are in tune with your actions. A note was made at the workshop that we need to get our by-laws approved by the school board or they will not be valid. A Leadership Lab release needs to be sent to the area papers and the school newsletter-Natalie Rossini and Chad Peterson will handle this. Chris Czerwonka will will prepare the first article for the Inter-lab newsletter due on Feb. 19, 1993. A packet of Youth Commission information, including the by-laws needs to be made for Sue Hurm. She noted that in the Youth Volunteer Service Directory some of the options should be reviewed for next year, i.e. possible paid positions and more Chanhassen options. She noted that we did not distribute the directories to the parochial schools; she will distribute about 60 to St. Hubert's School. League of Women Voters have asked the Youth Commission to be active participants in an open forum answering questions about self-esteem issues for female teenagers on March 29,1993 from 6:00 pm to 9:00 p.m. at Jonathon Elementary. It was decided that we would be involved in this. Presentations concerning the openings on the Youth Commission will be made to class meetings on Feb. 2,1993 by the YComm. youth. Natalie Rossini and LeeAnn Olinger have made an application form. Due to the lack of a quorum, the officers accepted the form. t\jeu,;, I-Cfm It, be l~J;;d bL CLrr d€~f+rnellt-tc ({(ci ~~ ,.n buiqe-hYlq rn(q~}~ ~ ct~~'mln 1~1 J:.l"itt~~ PROGRAM EVALUATION FORM prt"g-t7L.rn pn( es ~ Program Name Code No: Quarter Program was offered: SU F w SP Number of Sessions Offered: Total Number of Participants: Length of Class (minutes) Length of Class (weeks) Meetings/W eek: Class Fee: Should this program be offered again? Comments on program: . REVENUE x $ = No. of Participants Fee x $ = No. of Teams Fee = Donations x $ = Refunds Fee Total . SA TURDA Y NIGHT SPECIAL - A TASTE OF SCOTLAND Sign up for this first time event at the Chanhassen Senior Center on FEBRUARY 6 6:30 - 9:30 P.M. - For a fee of $6.00, you'll enjoy a tasty Scottish-style meal (stew, salad, bread, dessert), and as a special treat, we'll listen to a guest entertainer playing traditional bagpipe music. 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Planning Transporlali,," Enginet'ring L'rban Dt.'slgn e Th rt.'sher Sljua rt.' 700 Third Stret.'t So. ~linne.1Fdis, ~I\; 35.m h12l37n-I)7un Fax h12-,;-r1.13:-.~ ~linnt.'<1F'oh, Phoenix Dem'er Orland,) San Diego St)~lH;e D0ndld IV. Ringruse RIChard r \\",i,tdd Peter E. Jan'i... Th,)m"..; F Carr,,11 Cr,li~~ :\. .--\nl11nd'l'n e Dmuld I:. HUl1t k'hn B. ~k\;,lmar,l Rlch,1fd D. I'dgnm Ddk \; Bl'd,m.ll1n Jetf rl'Y L. &'n.'''11 R.llph C I3lum Gary J. Erick....", John C. L\ III h ('.1lI1 \;. B,l\' February 1, 1993 Mr. Charles Folch, PE City Engineer City of Chanhassen 690 Coulter Drive Chanhassen, MN 55317 CITY OF CHANHASSEl OO~~rnijWrn[!) . FEB 0 3 199J RE: TH 101 (North Leg) Trail Scoping Study ENGINEER118 DEPT. Dear Mr. Folch: The following report details the results of our scoping study for the construction of a bituminous trail along the west side of Trunk Highway 101 (TH 101) from South Shore Drive to Pleasant View Road. The report has been prepared, as requested by City staff, to determine the possibility of constructing this trail segment, to identify areas of concern that warrant further investigation, and to determine an approximate estimated cost. It is our understanding that if the City Council wishes to further consider these improvements, a feasibility study will be performed at a later date to investigate the trail construction on a more detailed basis. SITE INFORMATION Existing TH 101 through the project area is a rural-type bituminous roadway with ditches and gravel shoulders. A majority of the existing roadway is approximately 32 feet wide including the shoulders. The existing right-of-way along TH 101 varies in total width from 66 to 100 feet. The existing right-of-way along the west side of the roadway varies in width from 33 to 50 feet. Considering the 32 foot total roadway width, approximately seventeen to thirty-four feet of existing right-of- way would be available along the west side of the roadway for the trail construction and drainage ditches. Mr. Charles Folch February 1, 1993 Page 2 ~ e The area between the west edge of the existing roadway and the right-of- way line includes numerous land features that must be considered in determining the feasibility of constructing this trail. These features include trees and shrubs, utility poles, significant topography changes, wetland areas, monument signs and the existing roadway drainage ditches. ;PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS The proposed trail improvements include the construction of approximately 9,200 lineal feet (1.74 miles) of eight-foot wide bituminous trail. The proposed trail would extend along the west side of TH 101 from the south entrance to South Shore Drive to Pleasant View Road. Attached Exhibits 1, 2 and 3 illustrate the proposed pathway improvements. Attached Exhibit 4 illustrates the City standard typical section proposed to be used for the trail construction. We have conducted a field review of the project area and have identified specific areas of concern that need to be considered if the trail construction e is further pursued. These areas of concern are as follows: 1. A row of shrubs approximately 150 feet in length is present along TH 101 north of the north entrance to South Shore Drive. These shrubs are approximately twelve feet from the edge of the existing roadway and must be removed/relocated to enable the trail construction. 2. A steep slope and guardrail are present along TH 101 north of Twilight Trail making trail construction through this area very difficult. The steep slope is a result of a private driveway that runs along TH 101 to access a home that is well below the elevation of the roadway. The construction of a retaining wall will most likely be required to enable the construction of the trail and to maintain the existing driveway. The retaining wall would be approximately 275 feet in length with an average height of ten feet. Numerous trees and a power pole would also have to be removed/relocated in this area. e . Mr. Charles Folch February 1, 1993 Page 3 e 3. An existing wetland area extends approximately 100 feet along TH 101 north of Cheyenne Trail. The trail construction in this area would likely require the placement of some embankment fill material within the wetland. In addition, the trail construction may require some subgrade excavation work through the wetland to replace soils unsuitable for the pathway construction. 4. An existing modular block retaining wall extends approximately 110 feet along TH 101 north of Sandy Hook Road. The retaining wall has an average height of approximately 8 feet. Adequate space is not available for the trail construction between the edge of the existing roadway and the retaining wall, requiring the wall to be relocated further west. This work would be difficult and expensive considering the topography of the area and the close proximity of the existing home west of the retaining wall. 5. A steep slope and wetland area (Purgatory Creek) extends approximately 150 feet along TH 101 north of the retaining wall described above. The trail construction would require the removal of numerous trees, the placement of significant quantities of embankment fill material and/or the construction of a retaining wall. Wetland concerns associated with impacts to Purgatory Creek would also have to be further investigated. e 6. An existing wetland extends approximately 300 feet along TH 101 north of Choctaw Trail. The trail construction through this area would likely require the placement of some embankment fill material within the wetland. In addition, the trail construction may require some subgrade excavation work through the wetland to replace soils unsuitable for the pathway construction. 7. A monument sign and storm water pond are present north of Fox Hollow Drive that will require some modification to allow the trail construction. 8. Right-turn lanes are present along southbound TH 101 at both South Shore Drive entrances, Sandy Hook Road, Choctaw Circle and Fox Hollow Drive. It is likely that easements will be required at these locations due to the limited space available within the right-of-way for the trail construction. e Mr. Charles Folch February 1, 1993 Page 4 . e In addition to these concerns, the trail construction will require grading work and tree removals in some areas that will result in a reduction in the screening of TH 101 for residents of the area. The grading work could result in the elimination or reduction in height of some of the existing berms in the area that currently screen the homes from the roadway. The maintenance of roadway drainage ditches along TH 101 is also an important concern that would need to be addressed as a part of the trail design. It may be necessary to re-route existing ditches or install culverts in some areas to allow the trail construction. ESTIMATED COSTS An approximate estimated cost for the trail construction is $ 260,000. This cost is a construction cost only and does not include any allowances for easement acquisition, administration, engineering or contingency items. It should be noted that this is an approximate cost only since future e investigations or decisions could result in substantial changes in the project cost. It is recommended that any further feasibility analysis includes a more detailed estimate of the project cost. SUMMARY AND RECOMMENDATIONS The TH 101 (North Leg) trail is a possible addition to the City's current trail system; however, the trail construction would be difficult and expensive considering the concerns identified by this report. H the City wishes to further consider the trail construction, we recommend the following: 1. Discussions be conducted with the Minnesota Department of Transportation (MN lOOT) to determine parameters for the trail construction. The trail would be constructed within MN lOOT right-of-way requiring the City to obtain a limited Use Permit for its construction and maintenance. The Limit Use Permit process would require MN/ooT's review and approval of the trail planstprior to beginning construction. e e Mr. Charles Folch February I, 1993 Page 5 2. Wetland impacts be further investigated and discussions be held with the appropriate agencies to determine any mitigation work that may be required by the trail construction. 3. Field surveying be performed to prepare cross-sections of the trail alignment to more accurately determine the impacts of the construction. The cross-sections would also help to determine the need for permanent and temporary construction easements for the trail. 4. A more detailed Feasibility Report be prepared detailing the results of discussions with MN lOOT and the wetland agencies and the information gathered by the field surveying. The Feasibility Report should also include a more detailed cost estimate based upon this additional information. e We hope that this report provides the information necessary for the City to further consider the construction of this trail segment. Please call if you have any questions or need any additional information. Sincerely, BRW, INC. JBH/lab cc: File 1480A91 e . e >- . & " c . . - . ~ 0 c 0 . :' U - I r. - .. 0 . .> " . =z III ~5; b .. E -. Co 00 ~t cc- . r!~ . ....... ::I 8.:. . cc en . 0 po .~:~ y o. (J ~ .I! Ji d~ oJ (I) W JR ~ S 1&1 '. .. 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