1993 06 22 Agenda
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AGENDA
CHANHASSEN PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
TUESDAY, JUNE 22, 1993, 7:30 P.M.
CHANHASSEN CITY HALL, 690 COULTER DRIVE
CALL TO ORDER. 7:30 P.M.
1. Approval of May 25, 1993, Park and Recreation Commission Minutes.
2. Visitor Presentations:
Commission Procedures allow for presentations from the audience at this time.
If a motion is required, the item will be forwarded to the next available agenda
to allow for publication and review of items prior to consideration.
3. Land Development Proposal: 57 Single Family Lots, Located north of Kings Road and
west of Minnewashta Parkway.
Minnewashta Subdivision
Heritage Development
450 East County Road D
St. Paul, MN 55117
RLK Associates
922 Main Street
Hopkins, MN 55343
4. Land Development Proposal: 115 Single Family Lots, Located on the west side of Galpin
Boulevard, one-half mile north of Highway 5.
Song-Carlson Property
Lundgren Brothers Construction
935 East Wayzata Boulevard
Wayzata, MN 55391
Schoell and Madson
10550 Wayzata Boulevard
Minnetonka, MN 55343
5. Land Development Proposal: 12 Single Family Lots, Located south of Pleasant View
Road and east of Peaceful Lane.
Tower Heights
JMS Development
4806 Park Glen Road
St. Louis Park, MN 55416
Roger A. Anderson & Assoc.
Suite 107
7415 Wayzata Blvd.
St. Louis Park, MN 55416
6. Consider Hosting MRP A State Touch Football Tournament.
7. Presentation of City of Chanhassen 1993 Fourth of July Celebration Schedule of Events.
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Request for Street Light, North Lotus Lake Park.
Administrative Presentations:
a. Lake Ann Park Concession/Rental Update. -v.erbovl
b. Update, Bandimere Park Issues.
c. Interim Use Permit, Swings Golf
d. Announcement of DNR Grant, Lake Susan Aeration.
e. Regional Rail Corridor, Interim Use Report.
f. Comprehensive Plan Update, On Hold
Commission Member Presentations.
Administrative Packet.
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CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900 . FAX (612) 937-5739
MEMORANDUM
TO:
Park and Recreation Commission
FROM:
Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director
DATE:
June 17, 1993
SUBJ:
Park and Recreation Commission Candidate Interview Schedule
Important Information Attached
Ten applications were received to fill Dave Koubsky's position. I recommend the commission
select three of the ten candidates to recommend as possible candidates to the City Council. See
attached interview questions and commissioner criteria for your use.
At least four of the remaining six commissioners should conduct interviews. Please call me if
you are unavailable.
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PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
CANDIDATE INTERVIEW SCHEDULE
TUESDAY, JUNE 22, 1993
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
(;90 COULTER DRIVE
6:00 - 6: 10 p.m. Linda Carlson
6: 10 - 6:20 p.rn. Kathryn Broughton
6:30 - 6:40 p.m. Jane Meger
6:40 - 6:50 p.m. Roderick Franks
6:50 - 7:00 p.m. Lance Black
7:00 - 7:10 p.m. Jane Quilling
7:10 - 7:20 p.m. Clark Cummings
7:20 - 7:30 p.m. Don Yeager
7:30 - 7:40 p.m. Laurie Larkin
Additional Applicant. Tim Luehmann: Mr. Luehmann will be out of town on the 22nd. I am
recommending Monday, June 28 at 7:00 p.rn. as an alternative date. Please check your
availability for that evening. Mr. Yeager is also uncertain as to his availability on the 22nd and
may be rescheduled to the 28th.
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CRITERIA POR COMMISSION SELECTION
1. Membership should, represent all areas of the City to the
extent possible.
2. Membership should be representative of all areas in propor-
tion to the total population.
3. Membership shou~d 'consider re-appointment of current
. outstanding members wish~ng to be re-~ppointed
4. Membership should be composed of a variety of careers and
interest groups throughout the community, i.e. business com-
munity, CAA, school representatives, lawyers, architects,
maintenance workers, etc.
s. Membership should, to the extent possible, include a variety
of age groups.
6. Candidate selection should be based on the interview.
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INTERVIEW QUESTIONS
1.
Do you feel you have the time to make a commitment?
What is your impression of the current park and recreation
system and what do you feel you can add (expertise?
knowledge?).
What do you feel is the role of ~e Park and Recreation
Commission?
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What are your feelings regarding conservation and environment,
and passive parks versus active parks?
Please elaborate on why you wish to serve on the Park and
Recreation Commission.
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CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739
June 16, 1993
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Ms. Lawie Larkin
7672 South Shore Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Dear Ms. Larkin:
Thank you for submitting an application to serve on the City of Chanhassen Park and Recreation
Commission. I have scheduled interviews with the commission for Tuesday, June 22 from 6:00-
7:40 p.m. Please reference the attached schedule for your interview time. If you are unavailable
for your interview as scheduled, please contact me to make alternative arrangements. As noted,
all interviews will be conducted in the City Council Chambers located in the lower level of City
Hall.
If you require additional information or have questions, please call me.
Sincerely,
Todd Hoffman
Park and Recreation Director
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APPLICATION POR CHANHASSEN COKKISSION CITY OF CHANHASSEN
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APPLICATION POR CBANEASSEN COMMISSION
DATE: June 11, 1993
COMMISSION APPLYING POR: Park Board Rep.
ALTERNATE:
1lAHE: Lance T. Black
BIRTBDATE (optional): 3-7-64
CITY: Chan ZIP: 55317
WOB DOn: 831-4005
ADDRESS: 8620 Chanhassen Hills Dr.
HOME PHONE: 934-2867
BOW LONG BA VB YOU BEEN A USIDEN'l' 01' CD!DtASSBN?: 2 yrs.
BIGDST LEVEL 01' ZDUCA'!'ION A'1"1'AIDD, >>LUS DBGUES, %1' AllY:
Bachelor of Arts Degree, University WS, Stout
Ct1RRENT EXPLOYXENT: (state position, ..ployer , J)rief description
of duties. If with present ..ployer for only. 8hort time, list
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Manager of NORTHLAND GROUP INC. Northland purchases assets (Mortgages, Credit
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ACTIVITIES AND APFILIATIONS: (Include elective offic.s, honors and
recoqni ti ons race! v.lS, if any. )
I enjoy the outdoors, spending time with my family, working in the yard t ..
REASONS FOR SEEKING THIS POSITION AND YOUR QOALIFICATIONS:
My interest in this position stems from my desire to become involved in our
community.
I do not have any formal training in the field, however, I have
a great interest in our parks, nature, and the overall direction they play in
our community.
I feel with my leadership abilities, I could be an asset to
the committee.
I thank you for your consideration and look forward to hearing from you.
IN FILING THIS APPLICATION, I UNDERS'!'AND TEA'!' A COMMITKEN'1' OF MY
TIME, ENERGY, INTEREST AND PARTICIPATION WILL BB INVOLVED, AND I AX
PREPARED TO HAD SOCH A COHKITXENT IN 'I'D EVEN'!' I AX APPOINTED !fO
THE ABOVE COHKISSIOH.
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APPLICATION POR CBANBASSEN COMMISSION
DATE: June 10, 1993
COMMISSION APPLYING PaR: Park and Recreation Commission
ALTERNATE:
~: Jane Quilling
ADDRESS: 6553 Gray Fox Curve
BIRTBDATB (optional)111/8/55
lIP: 55317
CITY: Chanhassen
BOKE nONE: 949-2125
.OU nONE: 938-1900
BOW LONG BAVE YOU BEEN A RESIDENT OP CHAJO:tASSBN'la 7 years
BIGHEST LEVEL OP BDUCATION A'1"1'AIDD, l'LUS I).GUES, %P UYa
B.S. Accountinq, U of M, Mpls.
CURRENT EMPLOYMENT: (st.te po.ition, employer , ~rief description
of duties. If with pre.ent employ.r for only. ahort tiae, list
previous.mploym.nt....ll.) I have just started a part time
career in real estate with Edina Realty.
ACTIVITIES AND AFFILIATIONS: (Includ. elective office., bonors and
recoqni tions r.cei v.d, if any. )
I am PTO President for Clear Springs Elementary. I am a regular
at tender of Wooddale Church in Eden Prairie.
REASONS FOR SEEJtING THIS POSITION AND YOUR QUALIPICATIONSI I am
very interested in becoming more involved in my community. I
have strong organizational and people skills. I want to be part
of the process of improving Chanhassen's parks to the benefit
of all it's residents.
IN FILING THIS APPLICATION, I UNDERSTAND TBAT A OOKKITKENT OF KY
'lIKE, ENERGY, INTEREST AND PARTICIPATION WILL BB INVOLVED, AND I AX
PREPARED TO HAU: SUCH A COHKITKENT IN THE EVENT I AX APPOINTED ~
THE ABOVE COMMISSION.
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RECREATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MAY 25, 1993
The Park and Recreation Commission conducted visits to the following sites
from 6:00 to 8:00 p.rn:
1. Property west of Lake Minnewashta
2. Song Property, Galpin Boulevard
3. Tandem Properties/Pemtom/Opus Parcels
4. Rogers/Dolejsi Parcel, Lyman Boulevard
5. Great Plains Golf Estates
Chairman schroers called the regular meeting of the Park and Recreation
Commission to order at 8:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Larry Schroers, Fred Berg, Jim Andrews, Dave Koubsky,
Jim Manders, and Ron Roeser
MEMBERS ABSENT: Jan Lash
STAFF PRESENT: Todd Hoffman, Park and Rec Coordinator; Jerry Ruegemer,
Recreation Supervisor; and Dawn Lemme, Program Specialist
VISITOR PRESENTATIONS: None.
LAND DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL. REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT. GREAT PLAINS GOLF
ESTATES. DONALD HALLA.
Hoffman: .. .ravine which cuts through there where that sharp curve was put
in. It probably would make most sense to take it on this side and I would
assume that's what would happen in the future. It was recommended in the
staff report that we look to a 30 foot trail easement. In consultation
with the engineering department and the planners today, it is staff's
recommendation to reduce that to a 20 foot trail easement. They feel
comfortable with that. That has always been our standard easement. I made
this recommendation on a day when I did not have the opportunity to discuss
it with them. My concern was that TH 101 is a very narrow right-of-way. I
wanted to get sufficient room. There is sufficient right-of-way with this
20 foot easement for that trail construction to occur. That would be one
amendment to the recommendation.
Schroers: 20 foot instead of 307
Hoffman: Correct.
Schroers: It is specified there on which lots that would affect and that
would be Lot 10, 11, 12, 13, Block 1 and 4. 5. 11 and 12, Block 3. And
then Outlot A. That easement would be held on file until such time when
the trail is constructed. Then the other comments would not be pertinent
anymore. Just the 20 foot easement being taken. Therefore it is
recommended in regards to trails that the Park and Recreation Commission
recommend the City Council obtain a 20 foot trail easement along the entirE
westerly border of State Highway 101 which abuts this plat. Mr. Donald
Halla is not here. I called and left a message for him today with that
information. The status of the applicant's input.
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f h IS IS pretty clear, b
~om t ~ park dedication and the trail portion. Do we have any commissl
dISCussIon on this? If not, would someone care to entertain a motion?
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Andrews:
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easement
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I move that the City accept full park and trail fees payable at I
current at application. Also that the City require a 20 foot
on Lots 10, 11, 12 and 13 on Block 1, and Lots 4, 5, 11 and 12
3 and Outlot A.
Schroers:
And along the entire westerly border.
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That's it.
Schroers:
Okay, is there a second?
Berg:
Second.
Andrews moved, Berg seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission
recommend that the City accept full park and trail fees payable at the ra~
current at application. Also that the City require a 20 foot easement
on Lots 10, 11, 12 and 13 on Block 1, and Lots 4, 5, 11 and 12 on Block 3
and Outlot A. All voted in favor and the motion carried. I
REOUEST FOR SOCCER KICK WALL. CITY CENTER PARK. CHAN/CHASKA SOCCER CLUB~
Ruegemer: Thank you Chairman Schroers. This item was reviewed at the
April 27th Park and Recreation Commission meeting. However, before maki )
a final decision Mr. Maloney did request, here's Mr. Dick Maloney out in
the audience with us tonight. Just to have a few words with the Commissi
tonight just to possibly sway your decision from last time. Or just to get
some feedback from the Commission itself. So included with the packet wa~
the memorandum that I wrote last time and a letter and that to Mr. Malone~
At this time I would like to invite Mr. Maloney up to the podium to speak
with the commission in regard to the soccer kick wall.
Schroers: We would like you to tell us why you want it.
would it get.
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Very good.
Dick Maloney: I just thought there was going to be some kind of
determination. I just didn't know, you want me to kind of tell you what
is or what we recommend or?
Dick Maloney:
Okay.
Are you familiar with a soccer kick wall?
Schroers:
Yes.
Dick Maloney: You are? Oh, well that's good. Well the club would put
up themselves, other than the fact that we don't have post hole diggerS__and
we don't have a place to put it. I mean you know it's city property, e
where it should be. And it should be where the kids use it. Preferabl
close to soccer fields where they're going to be most the time playing
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soccer. The good part of it is, is the kids can kick and kick and kick
anytime. They don't need any supervision. You don't have to worry about
them crawling on the nets. You don't have to worry about them tearing the
nets down. All those kinds of things and to kick to wall, it comes back.
They're not digging in the nets and almost all the bigger soccer clubs have
them. Especially at the complexes, when they have complexes like Coon
Rapids and Blaine and Eden Prairie, to mention three. But it's almost to a
point where if you don't have it, the young kids just don't get the right
idea. So that's why I brought it up originally. As far as where, I don't
know, we talked. Todd and I talked and we thought maybe City Center Park
where most the kids are right here, would be the best. I guess if there
were a soccer complex, I would rather see it there. Hopefully you guys are
going to find a place to put a soccer complex right, someplace, please.
Schroers: well we were looking at possibilities earlier this evening as a
matter of fact. We don't have to be terribly formal about this but just to
let you know what our thinking was from last week.
Hoffman: The Bandimere piece.
Dick Maloney: Bandimere, great. Great. Great place.
Schroers: Okay, we looked at City Center Park and there are some
commission members who have had experience with soccer. Their children
being in it and so forth. And we thought number one, it's not very
aesthetically pleasing. It's not something that looks real nice and also
that it might interfere with other activities going on like people trying
to maybe enjoy a game of tennis and have to listen to bang, bang, bang,
bang. Balls kicking against the wall and that sort of thing so we thought
that maybe for City Center Park it wouldn't be something that we would want
there and it maybe wouldn't get used enough to justify putting it there and
it may be something that would be better incorporated into a soccer, a
future soccer complex. What we have this vision of a youth sports facility
that's going to contain soccer fields, Little League fields and all the
necessary things for youth. And then we would like to facilitate that very
well but our thinking was that it really wouldn't compliment City Center
Park too well. Correct me or add anything.
Dick Maloney: Yeah, if you've already looked at. To me, of course I like
certain things but you know, if you've got a big wall and it's painted
green, you hardly see it quite honestly. At least that's the way I look at
it. Yes, the people playing tennis are going to hear the banging. But by
the same token, people using the tennis ball against the other side would
hear their own banging so I guess, I don't know where it would go in City
Center Park either. I know that we originally talked, Todd and t, and it
would probably go right up here or something. Wasn't it? Right up next to
the warming house or something.
Hoffman: We talked about the back side of the warming house. Or the
tennis courts.
Dick Maloney: And there's, maybe if I could bring up another point. I
mean maybe if you wanted to, and I don't know how many handball players,
raquetball players there are but you could build a thing nice and have a
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three wall court on the back. You know, or hang a basket or a couple o~
baskets on the other side if you wanted to make the wall. The wall does
matter. I mean normally they make these walls 8 feet high and 24 feet wi e
because that's the size of a soccer goal. It doesn't have to be that big
or can be bigger. 50 I guess, if you want to think of something else, bol
this area could sure use some outdoor handball/raquetball courts or
possibly something else. I don't know. It's just another thought.
Dick Maloney: Yeah, I know the feeling.
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Berg: I guess I was thinking back when I was a kid, which is not easy.
Berg: I think I would have much rather been kicking into a goal than a
wall. It would have been more of a feeling of accomplishment in terms
even practicing.
Dick Maloney: Did you play soccer then? Well, okay. May I suggest
out and kick one into the goal. What happens is this net falls down
sags and you've got to go in there and push the net up and you reach
the ball. About that time, somebody else is kicking one and hitting
the back. And then I think the worst thing was that the little kids
crawl on the nets.
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Berg: Don't you think they'd crawl on an 8 foot wall too?
Dick Maloney: It'd be tough. It'd be tough. Unless you've got sticky --I
fingers. You know. I mean normally they make them with like 3/4 inch 4IIi
plywood and that's fairly flat, etc. It's pretty hard to grab ahold of 1
anything. I don't know.
5chroers: Are they not supported by, what are they generally supported 1
by? Are they backed up against, are they attached to an existing wall or
are they on posts?
Dick Maloney: Well I think Eden Prairie sunk like big posts like this. 1
And they put about 3 or 4 of them and then they back it either side. I
mean it's fairly easy to do.
5chroers: 50 is it double sided? 1
Dick Maloney: Yes. Yes. Blaine is the same way. Coon Rapids is the same
way. I think I've seen Rosemount, Apple Valley, Burnsville. Burnsville't
got a ton of them allover the place and I think Burnsville used 4 x 4's.
Treated 4 x 4's. Which is strong enough. I mean you know, nobody's going
to kick it over. 50 they might not get as true a bounce with only. 1
5chroers: And where do they locate these things? I mean do they have it
in a complex where there's a number of fields and that sort of thing?
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5chroers: And is it in any particular location on the field so it does....
interfere with the site or the sound of other things that are going on?~
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Dick Maloney: Well the sound isn't going to be a big thing, I don't think.
Koubsky: I think we were thinking of sound if we put it next to the, or
were going to put the kick wall on the tennis courts.
Dick Maloney: First off, the kids have been using the side of that school
over here for years. Cuts the hell out of the balls though. But at any
rate, like let's say Eden Prairie has a soccer complex and let's see, what
do they have there. They have about 7 or 8 fields and then they have two
kick walls kind of where the center of the place is and they're, I don't
know, 40 yards apart. Coon Rapids has, they kind of at the start, as you
kind of come in to the complex and the fields are out and around, they try
to locate them more to the middle and stuff. It's kind of a warm up area.
So if we had a complex, which we don't have and we're not going to have for
a while, right?
Schroers: Oh I wouldn't know about that. I mean I think it's going to
happen sooner than people think. It's something that we're working on very
hard and there are some real possibilities. I mean we can't make any
promises and say that we're going to have something tomo~row but the
future's looking good.
Dick Maloney: Well, you're working on Lake Ann. Or going to work on Lake
Ann, right? Or somebody is.
Ruegemer: Probably within 2 weeks.
Dick Maloney: Yeah. Well I see they were starting to lay sprinkler in the
softball/baseball. But you're going to grade that down a little bit, am I
right?
Ruegemer: It's going to be regraded, correct. Take the top...
Dick Maloney: And then they're going to push some of that off to the
southeast corner. So behind or on the south end of that field, if it were
graded nicely, would be a fine place for it. There'd be plenty of room
there. Behind that, the south goal. Running perpendicular. I mean that
would be a fine place.
Schroers: You know it doesn't sound like a big deal. It doesn't sound an
expensive deal and it seems reasonable to me to leave that type of an item
up to staff. Up to Jerry as being in charge of the recreation programs and
if he feels that a soccer kick board is warranted and that it's appropriate
to put it down in at Lake Ann, I think we would support that but I think
the general feeling of the Commission was that we just didn't see it
sitting very well at City Center Park because things may be changing at
City Center Park.
Dick Maloney: Sure, I can understand that.
Roeser: That's exactly my feeling about it. Putting it at City Center
Park would not fly. It just doesn't seem like it would fit there. It
wouldn't look good no matter what color you painted it, as far as I'm
concerned.
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Dick Maloney: Well I mean, I'll be honest with you. I think it would Jilt
better at Lake Ann because, hey. That's where the kids go to play socc~~
They don't play here anymore unless it's the fall soccer kids and we were
kind of, first off gearing it for the real young kids. But you know. thel
bigger kids. the 10, 12 year olds and stuff could use it probably better. .
Schroers: I think that if staff feels that it fits into the recreation
program and is needed and at that point in time if they need to come back)
and have us okay a small expenditure or whatever to have that included, 0
if it can be included into the cost that are being incurred with the
regrading and all that sort of thing, fine. We would support that but wel
just don't want to see it at City Center Park. That's all.
Schroers:
motion on
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out.
Dick Maloney: Good. Fine by me.
Okay. So then I don't think that we are going to need a formaJl
this item and would like to thank you for coming down and sharing
and point of view with us and hope it's something that will wor1l
Dick Maloney: Thank you for listening to me but you need more soccer I
fields. You have 4 baseball and only 2 soccer.
Schroers: We need more of everything, including open space
and money.
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you go up north, those beautiful flat, hell they can put a
Thank you.
Schroers: Okay, let's go on to the Park and Recreation Survey.
Hoffman: Chairman Schroers. Donald Halla is now here. I would like to I
allow him the courtesy to go back and review the Commission's recommend to
City Council on item number 3.
Schroers: On Great Plains Golf Estates. Sure.
address the Commission, please come forward.
If Mr. Halla wants to
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GREAT PLAINS GOLF ESTATES. REVISITED.
Donald Halla:
I don't know what to address...
Hoffman: I'll go ahead and brief the applicant. The proposal presented
that a preliminary plat to plat 36 rural single family lots on 46.5 acres.
Lots are outside the MUS A line so they require on-site sewer and water... I
the applicant, the present zoning and all the adjacent zonings are
agricultural estates. Regarding the comprhensive plan. the issues of parks
and trails. In regard to the recreation section. The City's comprehensi~
plan identifies this plat as lying in a park deficient area...however, dU,.
to the large lot sizes being developed in that area, the proximity
to...Bluff Creek, the proximity to the site of that future trail alignm~
along Bluff Creek...so it's the recommendation of staff that the Park a
Recreation Commission go ahead and recommend the City Council require full
park fees to be paid at the time of building permit application in lieu of
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parkland dedication. In regard to the trail easements, the recreation
section of the City Comp Plan identifies TH 101, Great Plains Blvd. as a
trail alignment. At present that trail has been labeled as a Phase 3
addition during 2000-2010 timeframe. That may be moved up somewhat with
the abandoned rail corridor...destination point for people to get down to
it and Hennepin County parks...develop that as a trail. If they're
successful in doing that, then people will want to go down TH 101 to that
trail... Obviously the future status of Highway 101 is in question so it's
imperative that we take every opportunity to guarantee that...The issues
which Mr. Halla and I have discussed prior to bringing this back to the
Commission centered around the remapping on TH 101. When we were out in
the field we talked about that. The easement which is being looked at is
the westerly border of the plat. Or excuse me, the westerly border of TH
101, the easterly border of the plat. In this configuration. Hr. Halla, I
was aware that Mr. Halla had gone through a preliminary platting process
previous to this and at that time he informs me that this right-of-way for
this new road was acquired. In speaking with the engineering department
today, that has been a true statement. However, they're not so confident
that this will ever occur or when it will occur. So the City should
certainly protect it's interest in being able to construct this trail along
this much more defined curve in this area. So I think Mr. Halla's question
is, you already had the additional right-of-way and the additional trail
easement in this location. Why do you need it, you know why do you need
another one? Well, we're not taking another one but it would simply be an
overlay on this one. The additional fees that would be then done along
this road alignment. So in your reports to the City Council would be
amended to.. .remapping of TH 101. . We don't need additional easements but
we do need to...
Schroers: And that's in the event that the realignment doesn't occur, we
can follow the existing corridor?
Hoffman: Correct.
Schroers: Seems reasonable. Mr. Halla, do you have anything that you'd
like to say about that?
Donald Halla: Well we have one problem. Number one, 1 think you have an
easement over that entire area already. I believe that was granted
approximately 4 years ago. There's some stipulations in that easement that
it is going through our commercial area, if you want to call it that. Where
we have our trucks and bins and so forth. It was not to disturb those
areas. There is room to go outside the fence that we have erected there
now. If that was to occur. The fence is just inside of our property. The
easement in the first 20 feet would be all underneath fairly expensive bins
and so forth. A fencing system that was erected with permit for the city.
I would have a problem unless the city was going to re-erect those
someplace else for us in a feasible method of putting a trail right through
the center of them, it wouldn't work. That was discussed 4 years ago and
we came to a compromise agreement on that. For that and for the trail
system at that time which subsequent to that we were granted a building
permit to put in that fencing system and so on. So I don't know how you're
going to deal with the fence. If you say now you want a different
arrangement than what was done previously, how are you going to deal with
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the permit that you gave us to build there in the meantime? That's my ~
question mark. If you're going to move it, make it feasible. ~
Schroers: I would say that's a valid question but is staff aware of the I
previous agreement and easements?
Hoffman: I was not aware of the previous discussion on the platting
process. In my discussions with Planning, they neglected to bring that tt
my attention. My files on the property did not indicate that but I think
the intent of what we're after is certainly in everybody's mind here. As
this goes forward to the Planning Commission and then the City Council, I
those issues can be clarified. If I think it's a real stumbling block in
that process, I would bring that back to the Park Commission. However, if
it was discussed. I don't recall it being discussed at the Park commissil
level 4 years ago. I was not in.
Donald Halla: I don't think it was. I don't remember any park meetings
but it was done at Planning and done at City Council and with staff and al
negotiated and worked out.
Schroers: I think that's why we're sitting here looking kind of dumb I
founded about this because it's the first time that we heard it.
Donald Halla: Well maybe we both are looking dumb founded.
Hoffman: It's an issue then that the Park Commission obviously protect _I
the interest of trails in the city. Keeps that at heart so we have to III:
a look at that we're operating. If we operate outside the property in tht
State right-of-way and obviously as you've recognized in that area, that
has very narrow right-of-way and if this trail is going to occur, can it
safely occur. Can it occur at all within that right-of-way? I have no I
knowledge of what discussions or agreements took place at that time so I
would like to investigate that. I think it's, I'll take direction from tne
Commission on how you would like me to handle that and administer that. j
we could administer that between staff, before this goes to the Planning
Commission. And I can follow it up with an administrative presentation
with the Commission or if you would like to see this back before the
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Andrews: I guess I feel that this needs to be clarified. I don't want to
be in a position where if TH 101 is not straighten or improved, that we J
have no way to put a trail through. That's an important segment in our
trail system. I think we have an obligation not only to the city, but al
to Mr. Halla here to be sure of what we're doing. And there's no need to
take two trail easements but there's also no need to do a faulty job of J
taking an easement because we're not clear of the facts, and I'm certainl
not clear on the facts.
Donald Halla: May I just show you something on the map here, what does
exist so as to maybe help or if you folks would like to drive by the
situation you can see it too. ....
Andrews: I feel that I would need better documentation. I mean to poi~
out where it might lie or might not lie isn't the issue to me. It's what
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are the agreements? What do we have in our hands now and what do we need
to have in our hands to protect the interest of the city?
Donald Halla: What we have now, if I may just say, on the outside and it
would be the left curve there is the existing roadway. Between the
traveled road and our fence, is at least 20 feet. In that area. On the
other side of the road, also in that area, is approximately a 20 foot wide
driveway that was put in by us for our neighbor when we bought the property
to drive trucks and equipment. That happens also to be on highway
property. So on both sides there's quite a distance on that strong curve
there that a trail could go in. When it drifts further south, then you
have a trail easement on the inside of our fence again as it was in the
lower section I guess you'd say there. Because what we had done originally
is we came in and did those three lots down below and really what we're
doing is subdividing the north half of the nursery or the north third and
the south third of the nursery, including replotting those two lots on the
bottom is what's happening. But the center core is staying as nursery
property.
schroers: Okay, there's two real issues here. We don't. want to lose an
opportunity to gain a trail easement along TH 101, as Hr. Hoffman stated.
That's a very important connection for us. On the other hand, our mission
here is not to infringe upon any other...so those issues are going to have
to be clarified and brought back to us so we know what it is we're talking
about.
Donald Halla: I understand. Okay, thank you.
Andrews: Larry, I think we need a motion to rescind our previous
recommendation. To be official. I guess I move that we rescind our
previous recommendation and that we bring this item up at our next meeting
with complete documentation and make our decision at that point.
Schroers: Is there a second?
Manders: I'll second.
Andrews moved, Manders seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission
rescind their earlier motion pertaining to Great Plains Golf Estates and
table this matter until the next meeting for staff to gather additional
documentation. All voted in favor and the motion carried.
CONSIDER PARK AND RECREATION SURVEY.
Hoffman: Thank you Chairman Schroers. Commission members. We have talked
about a survey as part of the update of the Comprehensive Plan. It is the
desire of the City Council and the HRA to perform as a part of this
community center issue a survey of the community to find out what their
thinking about that project. If they would like to see the community
center built. And then beyond that, what facilities they would like to see
go in there. Currently I'm entertaining discussions with the Assistant
City Manager and the City Manager if we could piggyback onto that survey, a
more comprehensive city survey. Not only including park related items but
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other items in the city. This is an opportunity to do a scientific, fU~~
blown survey. Bill Morris with Decision Resources is the consultant that
the City is looking at. They do surveys for many cities in the 5 state
area and most of the metropolitan communities and suburbs. A meeting hasl
been set with Todd Gerhardt and Mr. Morris and myself for next Tuesday.
at that time we'll begin formulating what this survey would look like. I
would bring back additional information. It would be helpful for me to I
know if the Commission would like to see that be more comprehensive or if
you feel that we should let the community center issue stand alone. Or
what are your opinions in that regard?
Roeser: One comment I would have is just the length of the survey. If
you're going to get, try and accomplish too many things at one time and not
get the attention of the people that you're trying to survey and just kinl'
of blow off the end of it.
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Hoffman: Typically it is a phone survey. They take 20 to 30 minutes andl
some of them are.
Andrews: That's very long.
Hoffman: Yeah. Some of them are very comprehensive. It's professionallJl
done. It's done by professional callers that do this as, many of them a
full time/part time position. Can they get the people on the line. If
they don't have the time then, they'll make an arrangement to call back.
Berg: What concerns me is, if Larry's been correct all this last year a
a half telling me that there's a real strong negative, as far as communit
center out there. If we hook on to that negativism, they could blast us
out of the water with what we want to know too. I don't know if that's
even valid in surveys. There must be ways to deal with that but, do you
understand what I'm saying?
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in that area and he'll be able to tell us.
Schroers: I don't think that we want to jeopardize rUInIng any
possibilities with the new redevelopment of the downtown and community I
center thing. You know I think that if this is in any way shown to the
residents of Chanhassen that it could be another vote or something like
that, are we polling, are we soliciting again for support for a community.
center? That it's going to come back to us just like it did before. A l~
of people have said, well things change a lot. People moved in. People
moved out. Frame of minds change. All this sort of thing. That's good
but I don't want to see this presented to the residents as though here we I
go again. They're trying to stuff this community thing down our throat.
You know the results. I mean we only have to hit ourselves a couple of
times to know that it hurts. I
Hoffman: Being a random survey you're going to call 400 p'eople at random,
so you're not just going to get the people who respond at a public meet....
or write letters to the editor. You're going to get that entire cross ~
section and I think the commissioners all believe as well, there's a fairly
large population out there in the middle and that's what this scientific
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survey reaches. If you send out a survey which people have to mail back,
you get the real positives. The real negatives. Those are the people that
mail them back. Those inbetweeners, those big deal either way, which is
most of the times the majority, does not respond at a very high rate. So
potentially it would be appropriate to have I think it would be appropriate
to have Mr. Morris here to speak with the Commission. To address some of
your concerns. To answer some of your questions in this regard. He made a
presentation, a 3 hour presentation as part of a class which I took down as
part of my Masters program. Very knowledgeable. Very comprehensive in
these pursuits. Whatever you want to accomplish, he can tell you if you
can do it and how to do it. It does fit hand in hand with the update of
the comprehensive plan. If we want to stick, you look in the comprehensive
plan. There are survey results in there which say, this is what the city
wants. This is what we should be planning for. If we want to have that
information, we have to have a survey. This survey will either cost us
$5,000.00 if we do it for the community center, or $7,000.00 if we do it
more comprehensively. So the return on our dollar is there for the taking.
Andrews: My concerns are that if there are 10 or so park and rec questions
that we can put onto the survey, if we can put them as the first 10
questions, I think we'll have very valid answers. If they're the last 10
questions of a 30 minute survey, I think the likelihood of that being
useful, reliable survey information declines dramatically. That's it. I
mean I agree, if we can piggyback on, that would make a lot of sense. But
I'm just concerned that there might be hostility as the length of the
survey becomes longer and longer and longer.
5chroers: I would like to hear what he has to say. I'd like to look at
this in a very positive way and say that if we can take advantage of an
opportunity like this, we certainly should. But I think that we would want
to insure that our questions, the information that we are looking for is
presented in a very positive, unoffensive way to the residents so we can
get a true, honest feeling of how they feel about that particular item.
And I want to be sure that the survey is not giving the impression that
we're trying to sell them something that they don't want.
Hoffman: Yeah, Mr. Morris would not do that. It has to be unbiased. And
that is one reason you hire a professional because it's very hard to draft
those unbiased questions. If you have any additional questions, it would
be helpful just to bring them out and then I can provide these Minutes to
Bill prior to his coming in and addressing the Park Commission. So then he
can have some answers for you up front.
Manders: I assume that this survey is intended to be more than just the
community center focus. Is there more broader issues beyond that?
Hoffman: That is the question at hand. Yeah, the catalyst behind it is
the community center. Now do we want to expand it to the planning
function, the park function. Other city services.
Manders: I'm just talking other park and recreation concerns.
Hoffman: Yep. Yep, that would be one component. That would be, if we
wanted to answer the issues in regard to the comprehensive, recreation
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section of the comprehensive plan, we would need to ask those comprehenJIIL
questions. Any of those, Larry might recall the last survey which was ~
on park issues, took 20 minutes on average to answer it so.
Schroers: Yeah, we had originally set that up that it was going to take Jl
more than 6 minutes and I think that the average, and this wasn't officia~
but those of us that called, I think the average was, did go up to about I
20-25 minutes. And we had originally planned for 6 or 7 minutes.
Koubsky: And that was because of the input?
Schroers: Yeah. People just had a whole lot to say and they had questioll
to ask, just like you know, something comes up here that seems pretty cut
and dry but then all of a sudden you get these questions and questions
themselves are food for thought and it just mushrooms. You could have
stayed on one question with some people for 2 hours.
Berg:
That seems like a good reason to have the survey.
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Koubsky: And I think if you're going to have a survey and the folks are
pretty anxious to talk, or a majority of them. The city's changing. YOUI
may as well get as much information as you can upfront because by the tim
it takes to get money and have another survey and develop questions and all
that again, it's another year. The HUSA line's moving out you know in ~
another year. So if the wheels are in motion, roll with them.
Schroers: I think I hear everybody saying the same thing. We want to I
on the band wagon but we want to be careful not to hurt ourself.
Roeser: I think a survey itself would be an indication that we're not
trying to jam the recreation thing down their throats. Just the fact that I
we're doing it.
Andrews: I would just like to say that I'm in favor of a survey but I'm
personally opposed to tagging onto this survey. I think it's going to be I
too diluted if we do so. That's my opinion.
Schroers: Okay, well let's see what Todd brings back then. That would b~
a more appropriate time to address the particulars of that. Okay, so the~
there's no further action required on item 5. I see that we have Mr.
Zydowsky. So at this point we should probably go back to item 2(b) on thl
agenda.
BOB ZYDOWSKY DISCUSSING CITY ORDINANCES REGARDING PETS. I
Bob Zydowsky: I apologize for being late. I was at a meeting in Waconia
where they're giving away, they're presenting the EMS Service awards. I
Individual and team and what not and Councilman Wing is the Volunteer of
the Year so it's pretty proud to have him as the Volunteer of the Year for
the EMS within the County. And Scott Harr was going to be here too and__
they weren't done with that meeting so I broke away to be here and I be
you thought I was going to stand you up again. But basically what Todd
wanted me to do was to kind of give you an idea of what we do as far as
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animal control and as far as what we do as far as enforcing the rules in
the parks. I've been here for about 5 years and it's always been one of
those things that comes up around this time. Do you want people parking on
the grass? Do you want dogs in the parks? And this year we've taken a
stance that we're going to enforce the park rules. I've talked to Todd
about it and other folks and they want the ordinances and regulations
enforced, and that's what we're going to do.
Schroers: Sorry to butt in but we've heard your name before but don't know
exactly who you are. Who do you work for?
Bob Zydowsky: Oh okay. Sure. To give a little background. I started here
about 5 years ago and I was a Community Service Officer with the city and
basically under a Community Service Officer, they do all the animal
control. They do non-law enforcement type duties. And about 6 months ago
I was promoted to Public Safety Officer and I'm a licensed police officer
with the city but then I've increased responsibility. So I kind of oversee
the CSO program now. I still do animal control. I still do enforcement of
the parks but now can do more. I can stop speeders. I can do things like
that so, that's my background. I'm full time. We've got two part time
CSO's, Rob Norland and Adam Stephany. And getting back to the enforcement
aspect. We feel that the rules are there to be held by and a brief on
animal control. We base most of our animal control on complaints that we
get called into the city. We do all of the city of Chanhassen. Victoria
contracts with us. Shorewood, Excelsior, Tonka Bay and also Greenwood. So
we do 5 additional cities and also Chanhassen. And the patrol there is
similar. For instance, Shorewood contracts 10 hours a week with us and
those 10 hours are kind of based on where we feel there are problems.
People call in and that's where we do our major patrol. And that's the
exact same way we do things here in Chan. We're going to go where we get
the complaints. We get a lot of calls, people calling, my neighbor dog's
been barking for 20 years and I finally decided to call in on it. How come
you're never out here? Well, we didn't know we had a problem. We would
have been out there. So like I say, we kind of base what we do on the
complaints that we get. We're an enforcement, public safety is an
enforcement type department right from the permits that the Building
Inspectors sign off on to the tickets that I write to the dog ordinances
that the CSO's enforce. So basically that's where we're coming from. I
know Rob, the other CSo worked evenings last night and I think he wrote
about 11 tickets for parking on the grass at Lake Ann Park. So it's our
feeling that the rules are there because you want them enforced. With the
additions of some of the parking lots in Lake Ann, there's more than ample
parking but people are lazy. They don't want to walk from the hill down
so, and the feeling I've gotten too with the deputies, they've asked us.
What do you want us to do? Do you want us to enforce it and they're going
to be, it's going to be top priority on their list too. As far as park
patrol, I kind of have a goal of when I work to get through most of the
parks every day. Granted, if it's busier you don't do that but that's kind
of the goal. Lake Susan, Lake Ann are the big ones that we try to drive
through. At least I do a couple times a night. And then some of the
others occasionally as we do patrol but, that's basically where we're
coming from. Do you have any questions or concerns? I mean do you want us
to enforce these rules?
Andrews: Anybody make the statement, well I've had my dog in the park
the last few years and nobody's done anything before.
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Bob Zydowsky: Oh exactly. Two weeks ago I was over in Lake Susan and I
there were 6 dogs in the park. And there's a guy, he's'got 2 beautiful
retrievers and he's doing this, training them. He's got 2 of them standing
by him and he tosses the ball and one goes to get it while the other one I
sits. And you know the dogs are really smart and I went up to him and I
said, well you can't have dogs in the park. What? Well, I'm sorry. You
can't have dogs in the park. Well, that's ludicrous. On and on and on and
on he goes and I kind of explain. I said you know, the rules aren't madeJ
for those people who clean up after the dogs. I said, it's made for thos
people who walk through here and it's like a minefield afterwards. And he
somewhat understood but he felt the parks is where the dogs should be. I I.
told him, you've got to get lost but.
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Schroers: What we're talking about and what we're hoping is, in order to
have an ordinance you've got to have something down and if you don't ha~e
an ordinance, you have absolutely nothing. Then anything can go on. So
what we're hoping is that we get good responsible, sensible people that
good common sense and logic when they're out interpretting and enforcin
the ordinance. And if someone is, for instance you can use Lake Ann. Ther.
is actually a trail that goes through Lake Ann Park. If someone is takin91
their dog through the park by use of the trail system and the dog is not
running aorund bothering other people, it's under control and that sort ofl
thing, we wouldn't care to go have someone harrass for that. But on the
other hand, if somebody's down there with his pitbull looking for somebody
else's little dog to chew up or children or whatever, you know we would
definitely want that taken care of. So I think that was really the focus I
of the whole thing. Was to keep things under control and operate under a
reasonable manner. We don't want to harrass decent citizens that are
taking their dog out for a walk or run. But on the other hand, we don't I
want decent citizens harrassed by unruly dogs.
Schroers: I was kind of in on helping to develop some of those dog
ordinances and as well as others. I don't know if you were here on that
Jim.
Andrews:
Yeah I was.
I'm in support of the rule.
Bob Zydowsky: Right, exactly. The problem we run into is this police I
officer mentality. Their cop mentality is, cops see it either black or
they see it white. And hopefully through the training that I've developed
with the CSO's, that they can go out there and you know it says no dogs in
the park. And it means no dogs in the park but I've tried to convey to I
them, you know it's the 4th of July evening. There's a visitor here from
St. Paul who came to see the Lake Ann fireworks and they've got their
retriever. You tell them to leave because they've got a dog. Well, do YOI
want to do that? On the other hand too, the deputies that enforce it are
pretty hard core. It's either going to be, there's a dog. No dogs. You
know, it's tough. ~
Schroers: Here's the other issue. Are you in the park or are you on th~
trail? We've got trails going through Lake Susan Park as well. Okay, so
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are we hanging around the park being a nuisance or are we passing through
on the trail? Are you going to give me a ticket for being in the park
while I'm on the trail?
Bob Zydowsky: Exactly.
Hoffman: That's a policy question for the Park Commission to deal with.
Schroers: Yeah, it really is. I think that it's unreasonable to provide a
trail and say that people can use a trail and the trail passes through the
park and you can take your dog on the trail until you get to the park. But
you can't continue through the park and continue on the trail on the other
side. I mean that doesn't make sense.
Hoffman: The Commission wouldn't want to amend the ordinance to allow for
leashed animals on trails and then just sign the trail corridors which go
through the parks and say, dogs only on trails?
Schroers: Well, I think if that amendment is actually necessary to
accommodate accurate interpretation of the ordinance, then staff should
bring that up on a future agenda and we'll make that recommendation.
Bob Zydowsky: Sure. Yeah, that would be great.
Koubsky: Does that make your life easier Bob?
Bob Zydowsky: Well you know, it would. Some of the other cities too,
they've got and I've tried to fight for a pooper scooper ordinance. If I
see a guy in the park, he's got his dog leashed, he's got his little baggy,
well. I think the main reason they don't want dogs in the parks, from what
I've gathered, is what's left behind. It's not so much that the dogs are
in the park, but it's what's being left behind. So I don't know if that
would be something that we could pursue but.
Manders: I think down on the beach too is really bad. It's a bad place
for dogs because of the little kids that are running around there and stuff
like that. I mean there's no question, they should be asked to leave.
Bob Zydowsky: Right, exactly.
Manders: But walking through the park, no. I can't see where that would
be a real problem.
Andrews: I do think that dogs should be on leashes. I think under control
is a total fallacy. And in our personal experience, there's a dog at our
neighbors that supposedly is under voice control but it's attacked our dog
at least a dozen times. All 12 times it was under voice control so.
Bob zydowsky: And we'll write very few tickets for dogs in the parks, to
be honest because it's such a, when you go up to the person and say, you
know can't have your dog in here. Their mouth drops to the ground and it's
more of an educational type thing. Do what you've got to do but then head
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Roeser: In that same vein, talking
recall seeing anything in the paper
know just publicizing the fact that
mean that could be put in the paper
week during the summer.
about the education thi ng, I don't .
of late about this whole thing. YOu~
there shouldn't be dogs in the park. I
more than once. For that matter, evelr
Berg:
I'd like to see us pursue the baggy.
The scooper ordinance.
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It's real visible on all the signs as you come
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I agree.
I mean if you're looking for that.
Bob Zydowsky: It's a good point. You know I think a lot of people just
assume that animals in the parks are fine and it might be something that
want to do together. Do a joint rules in the parks, animal type article
people know. If you're going to be in the parks, you know you've got to
have your baggy and you've got to have it on a leash. Or no dogs in the
parks.
Bob Zydowsky: We get a lot of complaints too, Chan Pond Park. Right off A
of Laredo. Boy, it's just the snow melts and it's, that's a mess. But t
other ordinance, as far as parking on the grass, we've had some problems 1
the past with, especially in Lake Ann there's that path that goes up tO~h
shelter up on the hill there. And we'll see vehicles up there and it say
authorized vehicles only. Well you go up there and you're supposed to
here. Oh yeah, Todd said I could. Well, who am I to believe. Okay, f .
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other one that scares me, we talked about this a little it
up here on Kerber during softball games and whatever. Scares
You see these little kids running in and out. They're parked
to the no parking signs.
Bob Zydowsky: Right, exactly. And well this last go around, they had a
big open house back here and it was just, and this was like 10:00-11:00 i~
the morning. And Scott Harr, the Public Safety Director and Charles Folc~
the City Engineer, I guess sat down and they're going to rework that. It's
something's got to be done.
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It's either enforce it or take the signs down.
Berg:
Somebody's going to get hurt.
Bob Zydowsky: Right. I think the initial kind of development of that
parking was that it was to be no parking within that crosswalk. Well,
way that some of the signs are, it's kind of different messages. So I
don't know if they're going to do all no parking or.
Berg: Maybe some reduced speed limits too. Just to encourage people
drop down to 20 mph when there's kids present.
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Schroers: I think the education process in all facets of park use. I like
the fact that warning tickets were issued for parking on the grass. I also
like the idea of when you see someone misusing the park, a real pet peeve
of mine is broken glass in the parking lots. Intentional broken glass in
the parking lots. Thoughtless litter. People just drive in the park, have
their McDonald's and whip the bag out the window. I would like to see
people educated on how to properly use the park as far as that is
concerned. That's just as much of an offense as anything else. Throwing
your garbage around and breaking your glass and that sort of thing. We
hope, and I'm pretty sure that you take all those things into consideration
when you're out there and kind of look for everything.
Bob Zydowsky: I think too for quite a few years, a lot of these things
were, I don't know if they were ignored or if it just wasn't a priority.
But now that we've got 3 people out, there's people working from 7:00 in
the morning until 11:00 at night in the city going through the parks, some
of these things can be addressed and I think it's going to take, you know
you can't just turn overnight and say all the dogs out. Get your glass out
of here. You're out of the park. You can't do that but like I say, it's a
learning process and we try to make it that too. It's not one of these
harrassing the people because their dog is there or because they've got
glass. You try to explain. Okay, these are the rules that are set forth.
Next time bring cans or whatever it might be. And we get a lot of support
too from the lifeguards. I was just talkin about that the other day.
They're real supportive and real positive about calling us when they see
something. Not so much to get somebody in trouble to say hey, these are
the rules. This is what's got to be done.
Manders: I think the reality though is that you're just touching on a very
small segment of the numbers and you have to have some other way to
communicate these issues.
Bob Zydowsky: Yeah, yeah. I think the article in the paper would be
great. It would be super and just highlight some of the ordinances and
it'd be a great article.
Schroers: Well I think we're on the right track, the way it sounds to me.
Appreciate your taking the time.
Bob Zydowsky: Sure, and I apologize for the last meeting too. There was
some misunderstanding there but, and if you ever have any questions,
whatever, just give a call. Or if there's a problem area. I know there
was a problem with a dog issue that came up and that was addressed and
taken care of.
Manders: Just as one example. 1 run through Lake Ann Park and 1 kind of
run along the beach there and there were a couple of dogs along the beach.
They're chasing frisbees and as soon as they see me, they start chasing me.
You know it was like, I did say well there's no pets in the park allowed
and then just kind of left it at that but it's a real hot collar incident
for me.
Bob Zydowsky: Exactly. And we go through that all the time. You know the
ordinance says, on a leash or either under voice command. Well like you
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said, my dog obeys me by voice but if he sees another dog or another ~
person, that's down the drain. It doesn't work. So we might want to a
it so it says you can have animals in the park as long as they're on the
leash. And the baggy. So, any other questions? Great, thanks.
Hoffman: Just to back up one moment on Commissioner Manders concerns. TIi
paper, we run that article and then we also put it in the city newsletter
so that will come out. Park rules is a big, it's actually a rules sign I
which is planted on a little piece of grass on a sign so when you get the
newsletter, either at the end of this week or beginning of next week, it
will be in there as well. You can understand a public safety officer's
position. When you put those people in those gray areas. They're almostl
apt to let it slide every time because you put them in a difficult
situation. They've allowed some people to get off. Where do you draw that
line. I've personally educated well over 500 people in the times that 1'1
been in the parks. Again, the majority of the time, unless they're going
to the beach, I will ask them to, if they're at the ballfields and their
dogs are well behaved, I will inform them of the ordinance and ask them
that next time they leave their pets. But it is a difficult situation ant
I understand why the...either black or white. And we instruct the gate
attendants as well to turn those cars away. First off, when they're coming
to a park, they're either going to take the dog out of their car, which i1l
against city ordinances, or if they leave it in the car, it's not a healt~
thing for the animals. So we ask them to turn around and leave. Take
their dog home and come back. So I understand your comments and your ~
concerns but it is tough out there in the field when you have to talk to
these people. They are very, they get very upset. When you're faced w.
that type of situation and you have received the message that well, may .
you should slack off. You're going to slack off. It's just a natural I
human response. You're not going to want to confront that person and say
no. You have to leave the park so, we have to send a clear message. If we
send a mixed message, you're not going to get the results you're after.
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Manders: What type of a mixed message are you suggesting? Is there one
now or potentially?
Hoffman: Well I think as Bob stated. It's pretty easy to have a dog in I
the park in the city but yet we have a rule which says no dogs in the park.
So he stated that they don't write citations for it. They inform the I
people. Rules are well documented if they're enforced just by people
talking to people. So if people talk to people and say, well I take may
dog to Lake Ann or I take him there and I've been talked to once and that I
type of thing. I mean it's almost every time I'm in the parks, I can
probably talk to somebody about their dog. So I need to know what the
Commission would like to see. Do you want them to go? Do you want us to
talk to them. Inform them of the ordinance and then allow their dogs to I
stay. I stated what I've done to date but everybody here in the city,
Jerry, Dawn, all the park personnel, we talk to them about those ordinances
and they're out there enforcing them on a daily basis. People on the I
lawnmowers, if they see people pull up to a picnic station with glass
bottles, they should get off and talk to the folks about that. Or dogs.
The lifeguards, the same thing. We need to send that message out theretll
start that culture of trying to keep our parks the place, in the condit
we want to see them. And this is where it starts.
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Schroers: We need to amend and refine the ordinance to make it reasonable.
That's what we need to do.
Koubsky: One suggestion. There are two different types of parks too.
There's neighborhood parks and community parks. I guess just as a thought
when you do work on amending this, is you may be a little stricter in a
community park than you are in a neighborhood park. Maybe a community park
they can walk on a parkway. Where you're in a neighborhood park, I think
you have a lot more people out for shorter walks, if they have a baggy and
a leash.
Andrews: That's asking a lot of the citizen.
Roeser: I think it's almost got to be, if you're going to ban dogs from
parks, they should be banned from all the parks rather than, because the
potential for a kid getting bit in a community park is the same as it is
in anything else.
Koubsky: Then I would think about not banning them and put them on a leash
and a baggy.
Andrews: Let's talk about it another time.
Schroers: Let's bring that up on the agenda. To refine and amend the dog
ordinance to make it reasonable. I don't think it's reasonable to totally
say, you can't have a dog in the park when we run our trails right through
the park. I mean that doesn't make any sense. We just have to make sense
out of the ordinance.
ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS:
A. ROGERS/DOLEJSI/BANDIMERE PARK ISSUE.
Hoffman: 6(a), unless there's any additional information which the
commission would like to forward to me, I have sufficient direction to
continue the investigation of this possibility of the swap of the property
and to bring the commission back a full report.
Andrews: Were you going to kind of float the idea of a little land grading
in exchange for a little acreage loss?
Hoffman: Not acreage loss, I don't think. We talked about the fact that
the Bandimere site has nicer sight lines to the lake. That's a selling
point.
Andrews: I think you misunderstood my point. The proposal that Lundgren
Bros gave us was less land than Bandimere. Because of that, that we would
expect additional services.
Hoffman: It would be my position that we would not accept anything less,
only equal or more.
Roeser: Accept at least as much plus the services.
Koubsky:
Yeah, I'd go for more.
Put in your extra 2 soccer fields.
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Hoffman: You have the plan before which shows the additional 7 acres.
Bandimere site. So it would be my position that we would, when you're
developing a community park, this is going to need to meet the needs for I
long time. We're short on that soccer area. The plan by Hoisington-
Koegler there which shows the additional soccer field, the additional 7
acres to the existing Bandimere site would allow for that additional soccer
field. I would recommend that the commission take a position that it I
either be an equal trade or in excess.
Koubsky: I would ask for more because of your lake view. That would be I
position is to ask for as much as you can and negotiate down.
Schroers: Also in the form of grading too. I mean acquisition of proper)
and any grading or progress we can make towards developing the site. So
that we can get, I think that is our focus. I was overhearing what peopl
were saying when we were out there this evening. I was just kind of
sitting and listening and everybody was saying yeah. Good. We want it at
this might get us off the ground a lot faster than we thought we would.
That seems to be the consensus. Let's take every opportunity on this to
acquire the area that we need and accomplish as much in the way of I
development and site preparation as possible. As soon as possible. So
that we're really rolling on this. We don't want to give up portions of
the property for the purpose of development but we would like to
incorporate as much of that into whatever, into the negotiation process ~iI
is practical. As much as they would buy. 4IIi
Hoffman: I'm sure it's obvious to everyone as well that houses on that I
corner are not going to be as valuable as the houses on the interior of
that property.
Koubsky:
Schroers: Yeah, that gives us a good position to bargain. A good pOSiti~
to bargain from so if we can stay the same on acreage, or even increase in
acreage and then get some site preparation as well, I think that's what we
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Good to shoot for it.
Get as much as you can.
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REDEVELOPMENT OF DOWNTOWN/COMMUNITY CENTER.
Hoffman: Item 6(b), the redevelopment of the downtown/community center.
That was brought up to the HRA as an item last Thursday evening. They made
good progress in the eyes of Todd Gerhardt, the Assistant City Manager ant
Executive Director to the HRA. Curt Green basically...go through briefly.
It was the general consensus agreement that this design gives them a base
upon which they could proceed with their negotiating activities and that I
being the negotiations with Bloomberg Companies. There's the issue of lan
swapping now. The property on the corner. which is in the ownership of the
bowling alley but will probably in the owernship in the city, would be .
swapped to Bloomberg Company for...on the interior of the Dinner Theatr
and then the community center would go there. As we talked, the City will
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hire Bill Morris of Decision Resources to conduct a feasibility study. And
then again we will be negotiating with Clayton Johnson and Bloomberg
Companies for that land swap. A member of the Planning Commission spoke
indicating that they will be submitting some statement indicating their
reactions to the program and plan. Recreational center versus community
center. Members of the Planning Commission have some strong feelings in
regard to, they don't want this just to be a community center. They want
it to be, or a recreation center. They want it to be more than that. Then
it was Curt's.. .city completes negotiations and evaluations. That is where
we're at. HG will not perform any additional work until this newsletter is
that the city is an issue. Informing the residents about this concept.
About the proposal. About the idea. All of those things will be
incorporated in the newsletter that will be distributed city wide in 2 to 3
weeks. After that the survey will be conducted and then an additional
committee meeting amongst all of the Boards and Commissions and Councils
will be held sometime within that timeframe to talk about the most current,
the most favorable plan which is scheme number, or alternative number 12.
Berg: Is this recreational center versus community center in the fact that
the HRA wants, or the Planning Commission wants to combine the two? Getting
back to the original problem we had of trying to do too much with too
little?
Hoffman: It brings some of those, too much with too little questions back
into the realm but not back to the original conference center type of
theme. They want to see open space and meeting rooms. Something which can
be more than recreation. You can have all sorts of community functions.
The music, the theatrical, those type of things.
Berg: Something like Shoreview?
Hoffman: Essentially. But more open. I think the commission member
they're speaking of talked about the real open vestibule feeling and that
all cost money and there are some other resources here, as the commission
is aware. Any questions I can respond to in that regard?
Andrews: I have one question. Where did the $5 million figure come from?
Who came up with that as the number?
Hoffman: The $5.5 million, or whatever?
Andrews: That seems to be the new number that's just always tossed around
as the target figure. Is that somebody said this is our budget and that's
it or is this just a coincidence of planning.
Hoffman: No, it's not a coincidence of planning. The City Manager, the
HRA. The City Manager, acting as the Executive Administrator of the HRA,
Don Ashworth and Todd Gerhardt, the Assistant City Manager and Assistant
Executive Director work through the calculations of how much tax increment
will be generated in that district during the life of the district. Then
there was a figure came out which was about $10 million and the Planning
Commission, HRA started, really the HRA with input from the Planning
Commission and staff members, started taking a look at a priority list and
those were identified with the Council about over the last 3 years and it
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came down to senior housing at about $2 1/2 million, City Center Park i~
option. Or central Park, excuse me, at a million. Some redevelopment
the West 78th Street with the realignment and the improvements, lane
widening and those type of things. And the community center is included in
that list. Budget figures were broken out and that's where it comes froml
Andrews: Okay. That's fine. That answers my question.
C. LAKE ANN PARK PICNIC SHELTER GRAND OPENING.
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Hoffman: If there's any questions, Dawn has provided you a report on the
have you received your invitation? Got your invitation for the open housl
of the shelter? ...again with all the given problems out there, the
shelter is going to be a structure which the city can be quite proud of.
And then the public celebration, the grand opening of the building will bl'
on June 12th. Promote that as a pretty big deal. I think the community
thinks it's a big deal and they will welcome it with open arms.
Schroers: Okay, can we just open this up then for D, E, F, G and H. Is J
there any commission members that have any particular questions or commen
on those or is there something that staff particularly wants to address on
any of those subjects? I
Hoffman: I'll take questions first from the commission.
Berg: Are we going to sign up next month for our duties? _I
Hoffman: Yeah, the shirts are here. If there's no other questions, the4lli
Lake Ann irrigation situation is an irritant to me. I've discussed that J
with the contractor. It's unfortunate that he comes into a timeframe whe
we've just gone through 2 to 3 projects which have run over schedule for
him. There are no excuses which are being taken in that.regard and he is .
well informed... Special June 8th meeting, again that's tentative at thi~
point. Mark it on your calendars. There are a number of site plan reviews
or land development reviews which are in but they are incomplete at this I
time and if they become complete within time, the city has the obligation
to review them. However if not, we will not schedule that meeting.
Schroers: Okay. I heard other than the weather that Arbor Day went well I
and was received pretty well by the Tree Board and what we have some ideas
of what we would like to do a little bit different next time around but
I think it's real doable and could turn into being a real nice event that I
people will look forward to every year. So that's good. Okay, are there
any presentations from commission members?
COMMISSION MEMBER PRESENTATIONS: I
Andrews: Two really quick ones. For those of you who have not heard, much
to the shock I think and surprise and excitement of the city, the ISTEA I
grant for the bridge overpass was received by the city. They got approval
for that which I thought was cool. The other thing, I at~ended the City
Council meeting last night. The City Council voted to approve a feasibi~
study of the Highway 101 trail link so I think that's a positive step t~
That's it.
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Schroers: Great. Okay, anything on the Administrative Packet? If not, a
motion to adjourn.
Hoffman: Two comments Larry. I would like to thank Commissioner Andrews
for his attendance at the meeting last night. It was his scheduled night
but I neglected to call... And secondly, Commissioner Koubsky is.
departing. This is his last evening so we thank him for his time. He will
be acknowledged at the City Council level for his service to the city and
the commission. We'll miss him. I believe he's been a valuable member of
the commission and we've got some, a meat and cheese tray and a little bit
of hor d'oevres out in the lobby which we can join now just to celebrate
his involvement and to mourn his departure.
Andrews moved, Manders seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in favor
and the motion carried. The meeting was adjourned.
Submitted by Todd Hoffman
Park and Rec Coordinator
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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STAFF REPORT
PROPOSAL:
Concept site plan to subdivide 37.:t, acres of property into 43 single family lots and
a 1O.:t, acre neighborhood park, Minnewashta Subdivision.
LOCATION:
North of Kings Road and west of Minnewashta Parkway
APPLICANT:
Heritage Development
450 East County Road D
St. Paul, MN 55117
PRESENT ZONING:
RSF, Residential Single Family
ADJACENT ZONING
AND LAND USE:
N . RSF
S - RSF
E - RSF
W - RSF
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN:
The City's Comprehensive Plan identifies this site as being centrally located in park deficient
area No.6 (see Attachments A and B). The Park and Recreation Commission and City Council
have focused their attention on this deficiency over the past five to eight years. The critical
nature of the need for park acquisition in this area led to the commission's action of establishing
a park fund reserve for land acquisition west of Lake Minnewashta. This reserve carries with
it the criteria that the reserve be used in conjunction with park dedication and that the park be
at least ten acres in size. The public's desire for this park was reaffirmed throughout the public
meetings held to review the upgrade of Minnewashta Parkway. On at least two separate
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occasions, residents took the opportunity of a public forum to call the city out on the rug as to
why no land had been acquired to date. My response echoed the consensus of the Park
Commission. The city will acquire a park of at lest ten acres in size through a joint park
dedication/purchase arrangement at a time when any combination of the Ziegler, Wenzel, Headla
and Hallgren properties were acquired and presented for development. That time has arrived.
As the commission is aware, during the period after this goal was established and concluding
within the past two weeks, the city explored an alternate land acquisition possibility--namely the
acquisition of the Hallgren property. It was the city's desire to investigate the possibility of
arranging a mutually beneficial "life estate" with Ms. Hallgren. This type of real estate
transaction, if certain conditions are in place, can result in lower acquisition costs while at the
same time benefitting the seller through the life estate and tax credits.
My conversations and dealing with Ms. Hallgren in the area have spanned approximately the past
two years. Ms. Hallgren was cordial throughout these inquiries, but in our last meeting she
respectfully declined the life estate concept. It is her present position that if the use of her land
is to change, it would be through an outright sale of the entire property. I informed Ms.
Hallgren, through a follow up thank you note, that the city was not in a position to acquire an
estate of the size and value of Ms. Hallgren's. With this case closed, I focused my attention to
the proposal at hand.
Many of the conversations held over the years among commission members, council members,
and staff included statements reflecting the desire to locate the west Minnewashta Park "on" the
parkway. As negotiations with Mr. John Dietrich of RLK Associates (representing Heritage
Development) intensified, the city retained Hoisington-Koegler Group to draft park studies for
three defmed areas (see attached). Two of these study areas included all or portions of the
Hallgren property. Thus, the plan now being recommended, the plan which has been defmed and
shaped by years of discussion, is Park Study Area A. Plan A was subsequently refmed and is
represented full size in your packet by the document dated June 17, 1993. The amenities
depicted on this plan represent the items identified as desirable for this park in the City's
Comprehensive Plan with the exclusion of the tennis court. Recent policy decisions of the
commission recognize that neighborhood parks are not the optimum location for the construction
of tennis courts and restrict such construction.
AN ISSUE OF LAKE FRONTAGE
The property being recommended for park purposes includes approximately 480:1: feet of
lake shore on Lake Minnewasl\.ta. This property is very narrow, being separated from the main
proposed park site by Minnewalhta Parkway. The area totals 19,439:1: sq. ft. This property was
not displayed on the applicant's concept plan as being included with the park. I am
recommending that it be included as a part of the park, to be maintained as a small, low impact
swimming beach. City Co4e does not allow the applicant to utilize this area as a recreational
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beachlot (see underlined areas of attached Chanhassen City Code, Section 20-263, Recreational
Beachlot). By taking public ownership, both the new development and existing neighbors
benefit.
COMPREHENSIVE TRAIL PLAN
In regard to the Comprehensive Trail Plan, I am pleased to be able to report that the city's efforts
to upgrade Minnewashta Parkway included the installation of an 8-ft. bituminous trail. This trail
will parallel the entire parkway, switching from the east side of the parkway to the west side at
Kings Road. This trail satisfies the Comprehensive Plan requirement of a trail along the
parkway. The concept plan also includes an internal park trail with a connection to the proposed
cul-de-sac to the north of the park.
RECOMMENDATION
Park
It is recommended that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend the City Council
approve the concept site plan as presented with the inclusion of acquisition of the lake shore
property. The acquisition of the park to be accomplished through park dedication (1.72:t acres)
and purchase (7.48:t acres). This acquisition shall be a condition of final plat approval. Purchase
price arrangements to be negotiated by the Park and Recreation Director in consultation with the
City Manager's Office and City Attorney, contingent upon City Council approval. Full park fee
credit is to be granted as a part of these negotiations.
Trail
It is recommended that the Park and Recreation Commission recommended the City Council
require as a condition of approval for the proposed Minnewashta Subdivision a 20-ft. trail
easement connecting to the proposed cul-de-sac north of the park, in addition to the construction
of such a trail segment from the cul-de-sac to the park, the applicant shall be compensated for
such construction through the reduction of trail fees at a rate of $12.00 per lineal foot The
remainder of the trail fees to be assessed equally among the proposed 43 lots.
ATTACHMENTS
1. A - Park Deficient Areas
2. B - Park Deficient Area No.6 Narrative
3. Service Area Map
4. Trail Plan
5. City Code Excerpt - Recreational Beachlots
6. Resident Letter
7. Concept Site Plans
8. Revised Park Plan A dated June 17, 1993
9. Park Study Areas A, B1, B2, B3, C1, C2
10. Applicant's Narrative Dated June 7, 1993
11. Applicants Original Submission
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ZONE 4
Zone 4, is becoming fully developed with residential land uses. In
the west side of this zone, residential areas exist with large lots
(2.5 acres). Curry Farms Park was recently acquired in the eastern
portion of Zone 4. Development of facilities in this area will
adequately meet the recreation demand of residences in this area.
Developments on the western end of Zone 4 are currently not served
by a neighborhood park and acquisition of such is recommended.
ZONE 5
The vast majority of land within Zone 5 is held in public or
semi-public ownership such as the holdings of Camp Tanadoona, the
Minnesota Landscape Arboretum and the Minnewashta Regional Park.
Additionally, the area is not likely to receive sanitary sewer
service until after 2000. Because of these factors, no additional
major municipal recreational development is recommended within the
nex years. Prior to that time, however, Zone 5 may contain
s pdrt of the City's overall trail network.
fr-rial areas within Zone 6 are effectively cut off from
existing parks by major roadways on the north and south, Lake
Minnewashta on the east and by the Chanhassen city limits to the
west. At the present time, there are no existing puolic park
facilities of any type within the southern portion of this area.
In reviewing the needs of Zone 6, the most significant deficiency
is the lack of neighborhood park facilities. Tennis courts, ball
diamonds, open areas and picnic grounds are non-existent.
Therefore, future acquisitions should accommodate such activities.
A potential future park site is the area around Lake St. Joe. As
future residential infill occurs, the City should be prepared
through dedication and/or purchase, to acquire an appropriate
parcel of land. Prior to that time, efforts should be focused on
implementing the Chanhassen Trail plan in order to provide Zone 6
residents with safe, convenient access to existing park"facilities.
ZONE 7
Chanhassen's 2000 Land Use Plan calls for Zone 7 to be developed in
a mix of residential and office/industrial uses. As future
development occurs in this area, neighborhood park property will
need to be acquired. Development proposals in this area should
accommodate the trail corridors identified in the Trail Plan.
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Sec. ~263. Recreational beach lots.
Intent. Based upon experience, it is recognized by the city that the use of' lakeshore by
multiple parties may be an intensive use of lakeshore that may present conflicts with neigh.
boring uses of lakeshore or the use of other lakeshore on the same lake or the lake itself.
Further, beachlots may generate complaints if they are not maintained to the same atandards
as single.family lakeshore lots. Therefore, the city requires the following conditions for rec.
reational beachlots, in addition to such other conditions that may be prescribed in the permit:
(1) Recreational beach lots shall have at least two hundred (200) feet of' lake frontage.
(2) Except as specifically provided herein, no structure, ice fubing house, camper, trailer,
tent, recreational vehicle, or shelter shall be erected, maintained, or stored upon any
recreational beachlot.
(3) No boat. trailer, motor vehicle, including but not limited to cars, trucks, motorcycles,
motorized mini.bikes, all-terrain vehicles or snowmobiles shall be driven upon or
parked upon any recreational beach lot.
(4) No recreational beach lot shall be used for overnight camping.
(5) Boat launches are prohibited.
(6) No recreational beachlot shall be used for purposes of' overnight storage or overnight
mooring of more than three (3) motorized or nonmotorized watercraft per dock. If a
recreational beachlot is allowed more than one (1) dock, however, the allowed number
of boats may be clustered. Up to three (3) sailboat moorings shall also be allowed.
Nonmotorized watercraft such as canoes, windsurfers, uilboards and .mall sailboats
may be stored overnight on any recreational beachlot if they are stored on racks
specifically designed for that purpose. No more than six (6) watercraft may be stored
on a rack. The number of racks .hall not exceed the amount of storage nece88ary to
permit one (1) rack slip per lot served by the beachlot; however, in no case shall there
be more than four (4) racks per beachlot. Docking of other watercraft or leaplanes is
permissible at any time other than overnig~t.
(7) The maximum number of docks on a recreational beachlot is three (3). No dock shall
be permitted on any recreational beachlot unless the beachlot meets the following
conditions:
a. Shoreline of at least two hundred (200) feet per dock, and
b. Area of at least thirty thousand (30,000) square feet for the fU'st dock and addi-
tional twenty thousand (20,000) square fE7t for each additional dock.
(8) No recreational beach lot dock shall exceed six (6) feet in width, and no such dock
shall exceed the greater of fifty (50) feet or the minimum straight. line distance
necessary to reach a water depth of four (4) feet. The width (but not the length) of the
cross.bar of any "T" or "V' shaped dock shall be included in the computation of
length described in the preceding sentence. The cross-bar of any such dock shall not
measure in excess of twenty.five (25) feet in length.
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(9) No dock shall encroach upon any dock set.back zone, provided, however, that the
owner of any two (2) abutting lakeshore sites may erect one (1) common dock within
the dock setback zone appurtenant to the abutting lakeshoresites, if the common
dock is the only dock on the two (2) lakeshore sites and if the dock otherwise conforms
'with the provisions of this chapter.
no) No sail boat mooring shall be permitted on any recreational beach Jut unJess it has at
least two hundred (200) feet of lake frontage. No more than one (1) sail boat mooring
shall be allowed for every two hundred (200) feet of lake frontage.
(11) A recreationaJ beach lot is intended to lerve as a neighborhood facility for the
subdivision of which it is a part. For purposes of this paragraph, the foJJowing terms
shall mean those beach lots which are Jocated either within (urban' or outside (rural)
the Year 2000 Metropolitan Urban Service Area boundary as depicted in the com-
prehensive plan.
a. Urban recreational beach lot: At Jeast eighty (80) percent of the dwelling units,
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which have appurtenant rights of access to any recreational beach lot, shall be
located within o~e thousand 0,000) feet of the recreational beach Jot.
b. Rural recreational beach lot: A maximum of f1fty (50) dwelling units (including
riparian lots) shall be permitted appurtenant rights of access to the recreational
beach lot. Upon extension of the Metropolitan Urban Service boundary into the
rural area, the urban recreational beach lot standards will apply.
(12) All recreational beach lots, including any recreationaJ beach Jots established prior to
February 19, 1987 may be used for swimming beach purposes, but only if swimming
areas are clearly delineated with marker buoys which conform to the United States
Coast Guard standards.
(13) All recreational beachlots shall have a buffer sufficient to insulate other property
o'\Jo"J1ers from beachlot activities. This buffer may consist of topography, streets, veg-
etation, distance (width or depth), or other features or combinations offeatures which
provide a buffer. To insure appropriate buffering, the city may impose conditions to
insulate beachlot activities including, but not limited to:
a. Increased side or front yard setbacks for beach areas, docks, racks or other al-
lowed recreational equipment or activities;
b. Hours of use;
c. Planting and maintenance of trees and shrubs;
d. Erection of fences;
e. Standards of maintenance including mowing and trimming; painting and upkeep
of racks, docks and other equipment; disposal of trash and debris;
f. Increased width, depth or area requirements based Upon the intensity of the use
proposed or the number of dwellings having rights of access.
To the extent feasible, the city may impose such conditions even after approval of the
beachlot if the city finds it necessary.
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(4) Overnight docking, mooring, and storage of watercraft, where allowed, is restricted
to watercraft owned by the owner/occupant or renter/occupant of homes which have
appurtenant right of access to the recreational beach lot.
OS) The placement of docks, buoys, diving ramps, boat racks, and other structures shall
be indicated on a site plan approved by the city council.
(16) Portable chemical toilets may be allowed as a condition of approval of a recreational
beachlot. The maintenance and use of chemical toilets on IOme beachlots may be
unsuitable because they cannot be adequately screened from residential neighbors or
lake users. Any use of chemical toilets on, recreations beach10ts shall be subject to the
following:
a. The minimum eetback from the ordinary high water mark shall be seventy-five
(75) feet. Side and front yard setbacks shall be maximized to achieve mn;mum
screening from adjacent lots and the lake.
b. It may only be used Memorial Day to Labor Day and shall be removed from the
lot during the rest of the year.
c. It shall be securely anchored to the ground to prevent tipping.
d. It shall be screened from the lake and residential property with landscaping.
e. It shall be serviced at least weekly.
f. Only models designed to minimize the potential for spilling may be used.
g. Receipt of an annual license from the city's planning department. The license
shall be issued unless the conditions of approval or this ordinance have been
violated. All license applications shall be accompanied by the following informa.
tion:
1. Name, address, and phone number of applicants.
2. Site plan showing proposed location of chemical toilets.
3. Name, address, and phone number of chemical toilet supplier.
4. Plan for commercially maintaining the chemical toilet, including a copy of
any agreement for maintenance, and the name, address, and phone number
of person responsible for maintenance.
5. A written description of how the applicant intends to screen the portable
. chemical toilet from all views into the property, including views from the
lake.
(17) No watercraft or boat lift shall be kept, moored, docked, or stored in the dock !~f:back
zone.
(Ord. No. 80, Art. V, I 9(5-9-1(11)), 12-15-86; Old. No..80-A, II, 6-15-87; Old. No.8", II,
6.1S-88; Ord. No. 121,2-26-90; Ord. No. 146, If 1,2,5-6-91; Old. No. 160, I 3, 2-10-92)
Editor'. note-Section 3 of Old. No. 160, adopted Feb. 10, 1992, added subsection (16) to
this section. Inasmuch as there existed a I 20-263(16) added by Ord. No. 146, the editor has
renumbered the new provisions as I 20-26S(17).
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690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739
CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
June 16, 1993
Dear Resident:
The City of Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission will be reviewing a land development
proposal for 57 single family lots located north of Kings Road and west of Minnewashta
Parkway. The Park and Recreation Commission will be addressing park and trail issues relative
to this proposed development.
A copy of the agenda for next Tuesday's meeting is attached. If you wish to provide input to
the commission, but are unable to attend the meeting, you may submit written comments to my
attention. This item has tentatively been scheduled for review by the Planning Commission on
July 7, 1993.
If you require additional information prior to next Tuesday, please contact me.
Sincerely,
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Enclosure
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LOREN H. BEAUDOIN
1133 SPRING VALLEY CIRCLE
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
IREN L. BENSON &
ROME M. BACH
C/O NORWEST BANK, TRUSTEE
16TH MARQUETTE
MINNEAPOLIS MN 55479-0046
IJEFFRY H. HALLGREN &
MICHELLE GEORGE
355 HIGHWAY 7
rXCELSIOR MN 55331
li-INDA A SCOTT &
FUSAN E. MORGAN
4031 KINGS ROAD
rXCELSIOR MN 55331
JOHN P. BAUMTROG
~141 MINNEWASHTA PKWY
IEXCELSIOR MN 55331
L.___ & DONNA MALINOWSKI
~INNEWASHTA PKWY
tXCELSIOR MN 55331
~EE ANDERSON
PLEASANT ACRES HOA
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FXCELSIOR MN 55331
IITAMES & JEFFREY KERTSON 6810
IMINNEW ASHT A PKWY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
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ERIT AGE DEVELOPMENT .
50 E. COUNTY RD. D.
T. PAUL MN 55117
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~ICOUNTRYOAKSD~
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
LEE & JUANITA HARVEY
7120 KINGS ROAD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JENNIFER J. HAILGREN
375 HIGHWAY 7
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
LOWELL & J. CARLSON
R. 1 BOX 822A
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
STATE OF MINNESOTA
DEPT. OF TRANSPORTATION
METRO SQUARE BUD..DING
ST. PAUL MN 55101
JAMES & ARLENE CONNOR
3901 RED CEDAR POINT ROAD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JOANN HAILGREN
6860 MINNEW ASHTA PKWY.
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
KENNETH & DUANE E. LUND
395 HIGHWAY 7
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
ROBERT MOREHOUSE
4410 HIGHWAY 25
WATERTOWN MN 55388
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TODD & FRANCIS BOYCE
4011 COUNTRY OAKS D~
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
BARBARA B. WILSON
7050 KINGS ROAD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
KRISTIN & JERRY KORTGARD
3901 GLENDALE DRIVE
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DAVID & MARGARET BORRIS
4071 KINGS ROAD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DARYL & DEBRA KlRT
50 lllLL ROAD
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
HOLY CROSS LUTHERAN
CHURCH OF MINNESOTA
4151 HIGHWAY 7
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JAMES & R. BOYLAN
6760 MINNEWASHTA PKWY.
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
RLK ASSOCIATES
922 MAIN STREET
HOPKINS MN 55343
GARY & NADINE NELSON
7048 RED CEDAR COVE
EXCELSIOR MN 55317
DAVID & A. PRILLAMAN
7064 RED CEDR COVE
EXCELSIOR MN 55317
JOHN & SARAH MANEY
7078 RED CEDAR COVE
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
RALPH & P. KARCZEWSKI
7054 RED CEDAR COVE
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
COY & SANDRA SHELBY
7068 RED CEDAR COVE
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
BERNARD & ALYCE FULLER
7075 RED CEDAR COVE
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
WARREN & JANET RIETZ
7058 RED CEDAR COVE
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
ROBERT & JUDY ROYER
7074 RED CEDAR COVE
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DONALD & B. BlTI'ERMANN
7085 RED CEDAR COVE
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
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7095 RED CEDAR COVE 7099 RED CEDAR COVE P.O. BOX 181
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 EXCELSIOR MN 55331 EXCELSIOR MN 55331
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KEVIN & CYNTHIS CUDDIHY ALLIN & SHIRLEY KARIS ROBERT & DEBRA PIROLLI I
3900 STRATFORD RIDGE 3920 STRATFORD RIDGE 3940 STRATFORD RIDGE
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 EXCELSIOR MN 55331 EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JEFFREY & JANICE ADAMS W. SCOTT MO~OW & NSTYON V. ERLLD J
3960 STRATFORD RIDGE CYNTIA M. HOUSE 4000 STRATFORD RIDGE I
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 3980 STRATFORD RIDGE EXCELSIOR MN 55331
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
NICHOLAS & DEB JACQUEZ TERRY & BONNIE LABATT KEITH & KATHRYN BEDFORD I
4001 STRATFORD RIDGE 3981 STRATFORD RIDGE 3961 STRATFORD RIDGE
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 EXCELSIOR MN 55331 EXCELSIOR MN 55331 I
WILLIAM J. MUNIG CHARLES & C. CRUICKSHANK SOUGLAS & JANET REICHERT I
6850 STRATFORD RIDGE 3921 STRATFORD RIDGE 8707 KILBIRNIE TER
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 EXCELSIOR MN 55331 BROOKLYN PARK MN 55443 I
STEPHEN & ERIN KILON HAROLD & ELAINE TAYLOR KEVIN & SUELL YN TRITZ I
3881 STRATFORD RIDGE 3861 STRATFORD RIDGE 3851 STRATFORD RIDGE RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 ~CELSIOR MN 55331 EXCELSIOR MN 55331
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STRATFORD RIDGE HOA
C/O KEITH F. BEDFORD
3961 STRATFORD RIDGE
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
MARK & JULIE GRUBE
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PROPOSAL:
Rezoning of 11 acres from RR, Rural Residential to PUD-R, Planned Unit
Development-Residential; Preliminary Plat to Subdivide 112 acres into 115 single
family lots and a Wetland Alteration Permit
LOCATION:
West of Galpin Boulevard, one-half mile north of Highway 5, Song Property
APPLICANT:
Lundgren Brothers Construction
935 East Wayzata Blvd.
Wayzata, MN 55391
PRESENT ZONING:
RR, Rural Residential
ADJACENT ZONING
AND LAND USE:
N.RR
S - A2, Agricultural Estate
E - RR, Galpin Boulevard
W - RR and A2
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN:
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The Comprehensive Plan identifies the site as being centrally located in park deficient area No. 3 (see
Attachments A, B, and C); Attachment C also indicates the recent developments which have been
approved in the area with(~ut the acquisition of public parkland. The dashed lines indicate the service
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areas of Pheasant Hill Park and the new school/park site. Both of these destinations will
eventually be accessible to this site via the city's comprehensive trail system. However, both are
located well beyond the site's service area. I informed Mr. Terry Forbord of Lundgren Brothers
Construction of this park deficiency immediately upon his disclosure of this pending proposal this
past winter. His reaction at that time, which remains his position today, is that Lundgren
Brothers Construction will absolutely not consider dedicating land for public park purposes at this
site. They have identified a site for an association park similar to the one they will be
developing in their adjacent project to the west. In the interim, I have had several phone
conversations "debating" the merits of park dedication requirements with Mr. Forbord. We
obviously have different opinions on this subject. It remains known, however, that the city has
an obligation to meet the short and long term recreational and open space needs of its present
and future residents. This commission and commissions before you have lived through the pain
of apologizing to residents for shortfalls of the past in areas where public land was not set aside.
The city has the authority through park dedication to accept land not in a malicious or damaging
fashion, but with the mutual understanding that public parks improve the quality of life in a
community. Lundgren Brothers has taken the position that they know what is good for this
development and public parks are not on their list. In speaking with Mr. Forbord this afternoon,
it was his position that the city, by considering park dedication, is not being open minded. My
response was that if there was a closed mind in this scenario it was his for taking the immediate
"absolutely not" position. I find it necessary to relay these unfortunate occurrences to you
because the connotations of these conversations carry with them very serious implications. Staff
remains open to negotiating a consensus in regard to the acquisition of a park and/or open space
as a part of this proposal.
COMPREHENSIVE TRAa PLAN
The Comprehensive Trail Plan identifies a trail along Galpin Boulevard. In a few short years,
this trail will playa very important role in transporting grade school students to the new school.
It is not known at present which side of the road the first alignment of trail will be constructed.
Eventually, however, the trail will be desirable on both sides of Galpin Boulevard due to the
nature of this north/south collector and its relationship to Highway 5, Highway 7, the new school
site, and the proposed access boulevard.
RECOMMENDATION
Parks
In regard to park dedication, the commission has many options. The three most obvious being:
1. Recommend the rejection of the preliminary plat due to its lack of public open
space.
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2. Identify zero to 4.6 acres of land for acqUIsItlOn as public parkland and
recommend the requirement of this dedication as a condition of approval for the
plat.
3. Recommend the acceptance of park fees in lieu of land dedication.
Trails
It is recommended that the following conditions of approval in regard to trails be forwarded to
the City Council:
1. A 20-ft. trail easement be retained along the entire easterly property line to
facilitate the future construction of a trail along Galpin Boulevard.
2. In addition, any trail easements and/or trail construction which would be
necessitated by the identification of a park site within this plat should be required.
ATTACHMENTS
1. A -- Park Deficiency Areas
2. B--Park Deficiency Narrative
3. Trail Plan
4. Resident Mailing
5. Vicinity Map
6. Preliminary Plat
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l~ri~!J'[;~1 Existing Parks and Service Areas
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construction of trails connecting to Chanhassen's major parks and
with recreational opportunities in Eden Prairie.
ZONE 2
Although a significant amount of vacant land presently exists in
Zone 2, most of the land has either been platted or is a later
phase of a previously approved planned unit development. Because
most of the land parcels in this area have been included in
proposed res i dent i a 1 developments, the C; ty of Chanhassen has
secured most of the requi red 1 and for future parks wi th the
exception of the eventual expansion of the Bandimere (Lake Riley)
Community Park. The recreation plan calls for a 25 - 30 acre
expansion on the north side of the existing park.
In the southeast corner of thi s zone, an area exi sts that is
deficient in its access to neighborhood parks. This area should be
served either by the installation of a future neighborhood park
north of Lyman Boul evard or access to other parks shoul d be
" "a a convenient and safe trail system.
he are dentified on the map as Zone 3 is presently largely
un eve oped. According to the Land Use section of this plan, this
area will be serviced by sanitary sewer prior to 2000. As a
result, additional neighborhood parks in Zone 3 should be
considered as additional development occurs.
Future park plans call for the construction of a trail encircling
Lake Ann. The construction of such a trail could effectively link
the eastern half of the area to Lake Ann Park. The western half of
Zone 3 which lies between Highways 41 and 117 may require a
separate neighborhood park. The land around Lake Harrison would be
a possible site for such a facility.
ZONE 4
Zone 4, is becoming fully developed with residential land uses. In
the west side of this zone, residential areas exist with large lots
(2.5 acres). Curry Farms Park was recently acquired in the eastern
portion of Zone 4. Development of facilities in this area will
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690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739
June 16, 1993
Dear Resident:
The City of Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission will be reviewing a land development
proposal for 115 single family lots located on the west side of Galpin Boulevard, one-half mile
north of Highway 5. The Park and Recreation Commission will be addressing park and trail
issues relative to this proposed development.
A copy of the agenda for next Tuesday's meeting is attached. If you wish to provide input to
the commission, but are unable to attend the meeting, you may submit written comments to my
attention. This item has tentatively been scheduled for review by the Planning Commission on
July 7, 1993.
If you require additional information prior to next Tuesday, please contact me.
Sincerely,
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Park and Recreation Director
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STAFF REPORT
PROPOSAL:
Preliminary Plat to subdivide 6.1 acres into 12 single family lots on property
zoned RSF; Vacation of a portion of right-of-way of Peaceful Lane, Tower
Heights
LOCATION:
South of Pleasant View Road, west of Troendle Circle, east of Peaceful Lane, and
north of Lake Lucy Road (see site map)
APPLICANT:
JMS Development
4806 Park Glen Road
St. Louis Park, MN 55416
PRESENT ZONING:
RSF, Single Family Residential
ADJACENT ZONING
AND LAND USE:
N . RSF
S - RSF
E - RSF
W - RSF
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN:
The Recreation Section of the Comprehensive Plan identifies this site as being within the neighborhood
park service areas of Curry Farms Park, Carver Beach Playground, and Carver Beach Park (see
Attachment A).
COMPREHENSIVE TRAIL PLAN:
The nearest segment of the City's Comprehensive Trail Plan parallels Powers Boulevard (County Road
17). Access to that proposed trail would be on-street via Peaceful Lane and Pleasant View Road (see
Attachment B).
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June 22, 1993
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This proposal does include the vacation of a portion of Peaceful Lane which allows the city the
opportunity to consider the creation of a trail along this street right.of-way. Under the current
site plan, this would require a narrow separation between Lot 13 and the trail. However, the
terrain found along this right-of-way offers a pleasant atmosphere and it is my desire to bring this
opportunity to the attention of the commission for consideration prior to signing off on the
proposed plat
RECOMMENDATION
It is recommended that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend the City Council accept
full park and trail fees as a condition of approval of Tower Heights. The subject fees to be paid
at the time of building pennit application at the rate then in force. Current park and trail fees
are $600.00 and $200.00 per lot, respectively.
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CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900 . FAX (612) 937-5739
June 16, 1993
Dear Resident:
The City of Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission will be reviewing a land development
proposal for 12 single family lots located south of Pleasant View Road and east of Peaceful Lane.
The Park and Recreation Commission will be dressing park and trail issues relative to this
proposed development.
A copy of the agenda for next Tuesday's m~Jing attached. If you wish to provide input to
the commission, but are unable to attend th~iieetinyou may submit written comments to my
attention. This item has tentatively been sgbeduled fOr review by the Planning Commission on
July 7, 1993.
If you require additional information
Sincerely,
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Ms. Helen Jacques Lawrence & K. Kerber Harry A. Murphy I
1210 Lake Lucy Road 6420 Powers Boulevard 1215 Lake Lucy Road
Chanhassen, MN 55317 Chanhassen, MN 55317 Chanhassen, MN 55317 I
Ms. Lynda Johnson James Stasson & Mary Skelton Conrad M. Eggan ~
1140 Pleasant View Road 6400 Peaceful Lane Contract for Deed: L. Dyrdahl
Chanhassen, MN 55317 Chanhassen, MN 55317 6500 Peaceful Lane I
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Ronnie & Teresa Hagen Christopher S. Eiman Todd & Diane Gerhardt I
1200 Lake Lucy Road 1206 Lake Lucy Road 1180 Lake Lucy Road
Chanhassen, MN 55317 Chanhassen, MN 55317 Cbanhassen, MN 55317
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Thomas & Anne McGinn Melvin W. Allrich & Jennie Hays
1121 Lake Lucy Road Bonnie Thomas 6691 Powers Boulevard I
Chanhassen, MN 55317 6681 Powers Boulevard Chanhassen, MN 55317
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Layton & M. Paine Gerald &.Ann Boucher Leonard & M. Dusoski I
1092 Shenendoah Circle 1020 Western Drive 1000 Western Drive I
Chanhassen. MN 55317 Chanhassen, MN 55317 Chanhassen, MN 55317
Gerald & Sharon Lund Donald & Carol Zalusky Willard & N. Shoberg J
990 Western Drive 960 Western Drive 980 Western Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317 Chanhassen, MN 55317 Chanhassen, MN 55317 I
Boeck-Kevin Partnership Leonard R. Kluver Darryl L. Wills & I
7441 Jolly Lane 1080 Lake Lucy Road Lizann M. Brisse
Crystal, MN 55428 Chanhassen, MN 55317 1060 Lake Lucy Road
Chanhassen, MN 55317 I
Bryce and Mary Fier Gary L. & Mary Jo Olson Brian & Suzanne Cooper I
1040 Lake Lucy Road 5023 Mayview Road 1000 Lake Lucy Road
Chanhassen, MN 55317 Minnetonka, MN 55345 Chanhassen, MN 55317
Rober & Teresa Drake I
Terry & Linda Barek Countryside Management
980 Lake Lucy Road 960 Lake Lucy Road 1935 Wayzata Boulevard W. I
Chanhassen. MN 55317 Chanhassen, MN 55317 Long Lake, MN 55356
Joseph & Jane Newstrom Craig & Kristi Weinstock Jeffery W. Hansen & I
1040 Western Drive 1101 Lake Lucy Road Janet M. Clark II
Chanhassen, MN 55317 Chanhassen, MN 55317 1081 Lake Lucy Road
Chanhassen, MN 55317
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"L061 Lake Lucy Road
~hanhassen, MN 55317
'adley & K. Johnson
100 1 Lake Lucy Road
fhanhassen, MN 55317
Stephen & Collette McKinnon
~41 Lake Lucy Road
~hanhassen, MN 55317
~usan Arndt
,j?20 Welsley Court
~hanhassen, MN 55317
lames & Carolyn Hesketh
6501 Welsley Court
fhanhassen, MN 55317
~Phen & Jacqueline Lorch
1 Devonshire Drive
assen, MN 55317
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.:~ 80 Pleasant View Road
Chanhassen, MN 55317
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116580 Nez Perce Drive
a:hanhassen, MN 55317
Lrank Beddor, Jr.
4400 Golf Shore Blvd. N. #602
taples, FL 33940
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1041 Lake Lucy Road
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Todd Michael & Gayle A. Lantto
981 Lake Lucy Road
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Paul & Amy Hanson-
921 Lake Lucy Road
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Thomas & Debra Given
6521 Wels1ey Court
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Mark & Wren Feyereisen
6461 Devonshire Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Yvonne R. Hoarn
2050 N. Terazza Delacienega
Tuscon, AZ 85715
Frank & Marilyn Beddor
7951 Powers Bouelvard
Chanhassen, MN 55317
David & Linda Lundahl
6501 Nez Perce Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Lundgren Brothers Construction
935 E. Wayzata Blvd.
Wayzata, MN 55391
Karen K. Green
1021 Lake Lucy
Chanhassen, MN 55317
James P. & Susan Duchene
961 Lake Lucy Road
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Dwight &, Rhonda Schneibel
6601 Arlington Ct.
Chanhassen, MN 55317
lames & Mary Jetland
6511 Welsley Court
CbaJ1hassen, MN 55317
Gregory & Marsha Cook
6471 Devonshire Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Carver County
600 East Fourth Street
Chaska, MN 55318
Daniel &, Sharon Rogers
6500 Nez Perce Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Arthur &, Ruthanne Owens
6535 Peaceful Lane
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Mr. Jeff Schoenwetter
JMS Development
4806 Park Glen Road
Minneapolis, MN 55416
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CITY OF
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(612) 937-1900 . FAX (612) 937-5739
Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director
Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation Supervisor
June 17, 1993
Consideration of the 1993 7-Man Touch Football State Tournament
Recently, Ion Burlingame, the Assistant State llirector of the Minnesota Recreation and Parks
Association (MRP A), approached the City of (Jhanhassen inquiring if we had any interest in
hosting the State 7-Man Touch Football Tourn~en.t the weekend of October 16 and 17. A total
of 30-40 Class A, B and C teams would parti9ipate.',1n pursuing this request, different sites have
been looked at, with Lake Ann Park being the lea~g candidate. A total of 4 fields which are
40 x 100 yards will be needed, and could ~placed ~thin the boundaries of the softball fields.
To generate interest for a touch football~eague, our deP8.rtment will be offering a touch football
league starting in late August or early/September. Hosting the state tournament may perhaps
establish additional interest for this lfigue. There are other benefits to hosting the state football
tournament as well. One major benefit would be to our bu$iness community. With 30-40 teams
and their families and friendsgarticipating in the state toUIIlf1P1ent, Chanhassen's restaurants and
hotels will gain additionall"~yenue from this weekend. Another benefit would be helping out the
MRP A, our professional. association. In the past, Chanhassen has hosted regional and state
softball tournamentS;andhostingthestate:footbaUmmament is a way to support and promote
the MPRA.
Please consider this request)~.,~9.stthe 1993 7-Man Touch ~~otballState Tournament in
Chanhassen. I need to let Jon Burlingame kn.ow QY...l11J.y~<stas.to.the decision made.
Director's Comments: I have asked that JelTyconsider the possible turf damage implications
which could occur from this type of event H~'Will discuss the conclusions with the commission
next Tuesday.
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MEMORANDUM
TO:
Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director
FROM:
Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation Supervisor
DATE:
June 17, 1993
SUBJ:
1993 4th of July Update
I have been very busy coordinating all the d~tWs for the quickly approaching 4th of July
Celebration. The celebration will start on FridaY,~uly 2 with the Rotary community picnic and
street dance; Saturday, July 3 will be the always ~ Family Fun Day; and Sunday, July 4 will
be the spectacular fireworks display.
Throughout the schedule of events you wj11 see changes from last year's schedule of events.
New musical talent was added, which incl9des "the Erijperor's of Jazz," a Dixieland band which
roams and entertains the crowd; and "FulJ,Circle" whichiis a Folk 'n Roll, Simon and Garfunkel-
type of group. These two additions ~.. be a real musical treat
New carnival games have been added which include: Cane;Jling Toss Game, Bumper Car Game,
Candy Wheel, Dr. Seuss Bean.~.ag Game, Dip the Duck, aijd the Sand Game. All these games
will remain at 25~ per try'i~e Spaceball, a NASA flight Simulator and the Happy Hurricane,
a 12 x 12 giant bubbl~iwill also be added as a portion of the carnival games. The Ronald
McDonald Show will refurn after a few years absence. ThcfShow will be featured in the lakeside
picnic area. A \Vitldsurfmg d~pnstra.tionby.8avari4ffiSurf.wijttakeplace at beachfront on Lake
Ann. A windsurn.ngSW;1ulator will be available on land for everyone to try'iCanoe races will
be added and will featuI'e4peQpl~ir1 each canoe and the participants.}Yiij.nofbe allowed to use
paddles. These new additions should liveD. up th sliva!.
A teaser ad was placed in the June 17th ediqqnipf the Villager. The color ad was to alert the
public of the days and location of the 4th of(J1ly Celebration, The schedule of events will be
inserted in the Villager on June 24, and a full page ad developed by the Villager will be printed
in the July 1st edition. A full page ad will also be featured in the Victoria Gazette. I am also
getting contacts together for radio and tv advertising. The 4th of July signs and banner will be
set up the week of June 21st. The signs will be placed in strategic sites around town.
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I still have a lot of loose ends to tie up in regards to our biggest celebration. I will be working
throughout the day and extra hours to complete all of the tasks. If you have any questions,
please ask.
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MEMORANDUM
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Park and Recreation Commission
FROM:
Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director
DATE:
June 17, 1993
SUBJ:
Request for Street Light, North Lotus Lake Park
With the initiation of the summer season, activity' in the city's parks increases dramatically. This
activity often results in the development of concerns among residents residing in close proximity
to the city's parks. One area of concern repottedto me is the lack of lighting in North Lotus
Lake Park, specifically in the area of the Parldng lQl The city traditionally has not provided
street lighting in parks. Notable exceptions t6this nlle are Lake Susan Park, Greenwood Shores
Park, and Minnewashta Heights Park. Thcfattacheddiagram depicts the area of concern and
displays that a 220 ft. run of wire would be ilecessaty to install a light. A preliminary cost
estimate from NSP to complete this $2,000.00. the commission wishes to act on this
improvement, an appropriation of would need made in 1994 capital improvement
program.
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MEMORANDUM
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Park and Recreation Commission
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Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director
DATE:
June 16, 1993
SUBJ:
Update, Bandimere Park Issues
At the request of the commission, I intensif~ an inquiry into the possibility of trading
Bandimere Park for land to its north. This inquiry was made with Terry Forbord of Lundgren
Brothers Construction as they have secured an interest in the land which was being considered
in the trade. I stated to Mr. Forbord that if it.~as the desire of Lundgren Brothers Construction
to investigate this scenario, to do so at theitconvenience. Mr. Forbord did consider the land
trade, concluding that it was not in the interest of Lundgren Brothers to pursue the concept Mr.
Forbord ensured me that he was very open-miitded in. his consideration of the issues, and that
such a land trade would result in some positive occurrences. However, the negatives, specifically
the number of lots on the Bandimereproperty which would be negatively impacted by either
Highway 101 and/or the pipeline, convinced him to discontinue consideration of a land trade.
Staff will take no further actionin this regard unless directed otherwise.
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MEMORANDUM
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Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director / If
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June 17, 1993
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Interim Use Permit, Swings Golf
This information is being forwarded to the conuriission for informational purposes only. No
action on this item is required by the commission.
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Interim Use Permit for Expansion to Swings Golf Site Driving
Range and Miniature Golf Course
LOCATION:
Northwest Comer of Hwy. 5 and Galpin Boulevard
7750 Galpin Boulevard
APPLICANT:
John Pryzmus
642 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
PRESENT ZONING:
A2, Agricultural Estates
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WATER AND SEWER: There are no municipal services available to the site
PHYSICAL CHARACTER.: The site contains a Oass A wetland in the northwest comer
and has been improved to contain a miniature golf course
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2000 LAND USE PLAN:
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PROPOSAL/SUMMARY
The applicant, John Pryzmus, is requesting permission to expand the Swings Driving Range and
Mini-golf facility which was approved as a conditional use permit in 1987. The expansion to
the site will be processed as an interim use permit in the A2, Agricultural District due to
ordinances that have been changed since the original approval. The applicant is requesting an
interim use permit to permit expansion to the site in the form of an accessory building, expansion
to an existing building, batting cages, parking area, and berming and landscaping. Much of the
expansion requested for approval has already taken place illegally (expansion to existing building,
slab for new building, parking area and berming).
The city has a long history with this site. Some of the past experiences include revocation of
the conditional use permit (1987), denial to reinstate the conditional use permit (1987), approval
of a new conditional use permit (1987), and review of conditions of the conditional use permit
showing conditions not being met and illegal expansion of the site (1988). In the fall of 1990,
the applicant started new activities on his site. Staff placed a stop work order and processed a
grading permit. As part of the grading permit, the applicant was required to receive amendments
to conditions of approval and permission to expand. After several contacts by staff and the
initiation of legal action, the applicant submitted an application for amending the existing
conditions and for expansion of the site in 1991. The application was tabled by the Planning
Commission because there were so many original conditions of approval that had not been met
and/or had been violated. Mr. Przymus was directed to meet all original conditions of approval
prior to continuing with the process. Mr. Przymus did meet the three outstanding conditions (as
follows) but did not pursue continuing the application.
1. Receive a certificate of occupancy for the existing building.
2. Provide a pumping contract and copies of pumping receipts for the holding tank.
3. Apply for a fence permit.
In 1992, staff contacted Mr. Przymus, stating that he must complete the application process since
he had expanded the site illegally. Mr. Przymus wanted to wait to see the outcome of the Hwy.
5 Task Force since his site is in the Hwy. 5 Study Area. While "waiting" for the outcome of the
task force, Mr. Przymus again made illegal improvements to the site (storage and building slab).
The city cited Mr. Przymus for building without a permit and he has now submitted another
revised site plan with the proposed improvements.
The site is now designated as 1995 Study Area by the Comprehensive Plan. The Hwy. 5 Task
Force is reviewing suitable uses from the subject site and a frontage road will be impacting the
site. At this time, the Hwy. 5 Plan has yet to be completed and there are several viable routings
for the access boulevard that are currently being evaluated. Underlying the proposed expansion
are two facts. First, everything has been illegally performed prior to receiving approval from the
city, and secondly, the site is using a holding tank. Holding tanks are to be used only as an
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alternative system. Mr. Przymus had two areas for septic sites which are the required systems
but with alteration of the site, the area for the two septic sites has been disturbed. The following
report goes into detail with each subject.
Staff is recommending denial of any expansion to the site. The applicant has continued to
illegally expand the site, so that approvals are after the fact and the site improvements are not
always up to city standards (holding tanks vs. septic, etc.). In the event that the PCA determines
that approval is warranted, staff is establishing conditions we believe should be considered.
BACKGROUND
On November 16, 1987, the City Council approved a zoning ordinance amendment to permit golf
driving ranges with or without miniature golf courses as a conditional use in the A2, Agricultural
Estate District The Council also adopted standards to evaluate conditional use applications.
They are as follows:
a. The location of the driving range is limited to being adjacent to rn 5 and rn 212, an
access must be from a collector or arterial which leads to rn 5 or rn 212.
b. The hours of operation shall be from sunrise to sunset.
c. Provision of adequate parking areas and submission of a landscaping plan in conformance
with the Zoning Ordinance.
d. No site shall be located within 500 feet of a single family residence.
e. Buildings on the site may not exceed 800 square feet and shall be painted in earth tones.
On November 16, 1987, the City Council also approved the conditional use permit for John
Pryzmus for a golf driving range and miniature golf course subject to the following conditions:
1. Submission of a revised grading plan by December 1, 1987, showing the proposed limits
of grading, methods of erosion control where necessary indicating the size and revised
location of the parking lot and club house 150 feet from the centerline of Co. Rd. 117,
and proposed berm areas around the putting green and miniature golf course area. The
parking area shall be paved. City staff shall review and approve said plan prior to
activity occurring on the site.
2. Submission of a revised landscaping plan by December 1, 1987, to add a 2 foot evergreen
hedge and 6 foot trees in front of the proposed parking area. City staff shall review and
approve said plan prior to activity occurring on the site.
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3. Fencing on the property shall not exceed 6 feet 6 inches in height unless authorized by
a conditional use permit.
4. The two septic system sites along Co. Rd. 117 shall be protected from grading activities
and shall be staked and protected in the field.
5. The applicant shall install a holding tank and shall comply with all the requirements of
Ordinance No. 1O-B. A copy of a contract with a licensed pumper shall be provided prior
to issuance of the septic permit.
6. The applicant shall comply with the requirements of the Watershed District, Fish and
Wildlife Service, DNR and any other legal jurisdiction as it relates to utilization of the
site.
7. There shall be no alteration to the wetland area except for the planting of grass seed and
periodic disking of the site. There shall be no filling, grading or other alteration unless
approved by the City Council through the wetland alteration permit process.
8. The applicant shall provide proper fmancial security in the amount of 110% of the cost
of the improvements to the site prior to December 1, 987.
9. There shall be no light standards on the premises. Hours of operation shall be from
sunrise to sunset.
10. The applicant shall pay all fees incurred by Resource Engineering by December 1, 1987,
and shall be responsible for future fees if services by Resource Engineering are
determined to be necessary.
On August 22, 1988, as part of the conditional use permit, an annual review of the conditions
was performed by staff. Several conditions of approval had not been met. The applicant
requested Council approval of the changes he had made to this site. The City Council tabled
review of the Pryzmus conditional use permit until the Planning Commission could review an
amendment to the Zoning Ordinance and the conditional use permit to permit the items that the
applicant requested.
On September 21, 1988, the Planning Commission reviewed the zoning ordinance amendment
request to standards for golf driving ranges with or without miniature golf courses and an
amendment to the conditional use permit for the Swings Golf Driving Range and Miniature Golf.
The applicant was requesting approval for installation of light standards, installation of a sign,
installation of video games and extension of hours of operation. Most of these improvements
were already installed by the applicant. The proposed improvements required amendments to the
approved conditional use permit and amendments to the zoning ordinance. The pr~posed zoning
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ordinance amendments were to the standards for conditional use for golf driving ranges with or
without miniature golf courses to permit:
1. Installation of a sign advertising the facility is permitted, however, in no case shall the
sign exceed 32 square feet
2. No more than 10 video games, including pinball machines or other mechanical, electrical
or electronic machine be installed. This does not include vending machines for food or
soft drinks.
The Planning Commission was then asked to review amending the conditional use permit to
allow the following changes to the original conditional use permit:
1. Light standards on the property shall be limited to 75 watt lights not to exceed 3 feet in
height to be located in the miniature golf course area. Lighting may be located on the
building for security and to illuminate the driving range tees to the west "In no case shall
any lights be directed on adjacent properties or glare onto abutting road right-of-ways.
2. No more than 10 video games, including pinball machines or other mechanical, electrical
or electronic machine be installed. Vending machines dispensing food and soft drinks
may be installed.
3. Hours of operation shall be from 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.rn.
4. Installation of 22 six foot evergreen trees along TH 5 and Galpin Boulevard.
After discussion of the item, the Planning Commission unanimously recommended tabling action
on the zoning ordinance amendment and the conditional use permit amendment until staff came
back with more information. The Planning Commission had the following comments:
1. The Planning Commission was fairly unanimous in requiring the applicant maintain the
originally approved hours of sunris~ to sunset
2. The Planning Commission agreed that the applicant should be permitted some form of
signage but the sign should not be illuminated. The Planning Commission also directed
staff to come back with a proposal for an acceptable sign within the agricultural district
3. The Planning Commission agreed that ten should be the limit of number of video games
allowed. The Planning Commission also discussed whether or not video games should
be licensed by the city. The Planning Commission directed staff to come back with
information on whether or not licensing should be required.
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4. The fmal item of discussion was the lighting. The Planning Commission felt that the
applicant should only be permitted lighting for security purposes.
With the turnover in Planning Staff, this item was not further pursued. Since this case was last
reviewed by the Planning Commission and City Council, the ordinance has been amended to
allow golf driving ranges with or without miniature golf courses as an interim use permit in the
A2 District instead of a conditional use permit The reason for this was that golf driving ranges
with or without miniature golf courses were considered more of a temporary use which should
have a set termination date. Therefore, any expansion to the site must now be considered as an
interim use permit and will have a termination date established as part of the permit
In October, 1990, staff noticed grading activity taking place at the Swings Golf site on the
northwest corner of Galpin Boulevard and Hwy. 5. The applicant, John Pryzmus, was creating
a berm along Galpin Boulevard, clearing out an area for potential future parking/drainage area
and providing a second area of driving tees for the driving range. The City required the applicant
to stop work on the site and to apply for a grading permit. After working with the applicant, a
grading permit was issued with the following conditions:
1. The earth berm along Galpin Boulevard (Co. Rd. 117) shall be continuous two-tier, two
foot high rock retaining walls, not to exceed an accumulative height of four feet in lieu
of the three foot high earth berm previously required.
2. Provide the city with a fmancial security in the form of a letter of credit or cash escrow
in the amount of $1,000 to guarantee erosion control measures and site restoration.
3. All disturbed areas shall be seeded and disc mulched or sodded prior to November 15,
1990.
4. The grading permit fee shall be calculated according to the 1988 Uniform Building Code
Table No. 70-B for grading 400 cubic yards of material.
5. Erosion control measures (hay bales) shall be maintained throughout until vegetation
cover has been fully reestablished and removal is authorized by the City Engineer.
6. Any future expansion or grading activities will require another permit application and will
also require an approved site and/or grading plan by the Planning Commission and City
Council prior to commencement.
7. The grading activity that has occurred adjacent to the creek located on the northerly
portion of the property shall be removed back to a point to be determined in the field by
city staff.
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8. As agreed, the expansion to the parking lot and driving range is not pennitted without
receiving an amendment to the conditional use pennit to allow expansion of the existing
facility. This expansion is not included in the administrative grading permit Therefore,
the driving tee and parking lot must be removed or transformed into berming purposes.
9. A building pennit is required for the installation of the fence proposed around the site.
The activity occurring at the site was an expansion of the conditional use pennit for the golf
driving range and miniature golf course. As part of the grading pennit approval, the applicant
was required to submit an application for an amendment to the conditions of the conditional use
pennit and for expansion of the site.
On November 28, 1990, staff sent John Pryzmus a letter stating that the grading completed on
the site was acceptable if approved as part of the amendment A condition of the grading permit
was that an application for an amendment to the conditional use pennit must be submitted and
approved by the city. Staff requested the applicant to submit a complete application by January
7, 1991. Attached to the letter, staff also enclosed an application form and a list of the required
information for a complete application. Staff did not receive the required application by the
January 7, 1991, deadline. On January 11, 1991, staff submitted another certified letter to Mr.
Pryzmus again reminding him of the condition of approval of the grading pennit and that the
deadline of January 7th had not been met. Staff provided the applicant with a second opportunity
to make an application by Tuesday, January 22,1991. The letter further stated that if a complete
application was not received by January 22nd, the city would place the conditional use pennit
on a future City Council agenda for consideration of revocation. As of March 20, 1991, an
application had not been submitted by the applicant nor had the applicant made any effort to
contact staff.
Staff then scheduled this item on a City Council agenda as consideration of revocation of the
conditional use pennit. The problem with revoking a conditional use pennit is that any of the
conditions regulating the use of the site are then void and the activity then becomes a
non-confonning use. The city must then either pursue discontinuing the use on the site or have
the applicant go through the conditional use pennit process again with new conditions to bring
the site into compliance. The preferred option is for the city to initiate enforcement action
against the applicant The applicant will be criminally cited and, if found guilty, will be required
to bring the site into compliance. Initiating the enforcement action will start the process
immediately instead of being postponed until revocation of the conditional use pennit has been
processed. Therefore, staff has initiated the enforcement action through the City Attorney's
Office instead of pursuing revocation of the conditional use pennit
In March, 1991, the applicant submitted an application. The enforcement action is still in place
should we need to use it if the applicant does not complete the application process and meet any
conditions.
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PROPOSAL
The applicant is requesting an interim use permit for expansion to the Swings Golf Driving
Range and Miniature Golf Course. Golf driving ranges with or without miniature golf courses
used to be a conditional use permit in the A2 District and are now an interim use permit
Interim use permits allow a use for a brief period of time until a permanent location is obtained,
or while the pennanent location is under construction, and allows a use that is presently
acceptable but that with anticipated development will not be acceptable in the future. An interim
use permit is permitted if the following is found:
1. Meets the standards of the conditional use permit set forth in Section 20-232 of the City
Code.
2. Conforms to the zoning regulations.
3. The use is allowed as an interim use in the zoning district
4. The date of event that will terminate the use can be identified with certainty.
5. The use will not impose additional costs on the public if it is necessary for the public to
take the property in the future.
6. The user agrees to any conditions that the City Council deems appropriate for permission
of use.
The items for consideration as an interim use permit is the expansion to the driving range
(expanded illegally), a proposed building (not yet constructed, but the building slab has been
illegally installed), parking lot expansion (expanded illegally), batting cages (proposed), the sign
(installed illegally) and video games (installed illegally).
INTERIM USE PERMIT FOR EXPANSION OF THE SITE
The main issue with any type of expansion on the site is with the provision of bathroom
facilities. The site is located outside the MUSA line and service connaot be provided at this
time. Currently, the site only has a holding tank. Two septic sites were shown and approved
with the conditional use permit. The applicant constructed the existing clubhouse prior to
receiving City Council approval for the conditional use permit and the building was constructed
without a building permit and without required bathroom facilities. The city permitted the
installation of a holding tank instead of requiring hook up to a septic system. It is unclear why
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exactly this was permitted. The City Code requires buildings to provide bathroom facilities and
outside of the MUSA line they must be hooked up to a septic system. The existing holding tank
and separate bathroom was allowed only as an alternate system. A condition of the holding tank
was for the applicant to get a pumping contract and to submit pumping receipts to the city. The
city has received the pumping contract but is no longer receiving pumping receipts. Further
accentuating this problem is the applicant has graded and destroyed the approved septic sites.
Since a majority of the site has been altered, it may be difficult to locate two new acceptable
septic sites.
The applicant has a history of making improvements to the site without first receiving the
required approval and then after the fact, requesting approval. This puts staff, the Planning
Commission and the City Council in a difficult position. If the applicant had first come in for
approval for the expansion, there may not have been any objection to what was being proposed
and conditions making the expansion acceptable could have been enforced. Instead it is difficult
to recommend approval when, once again, the applicant understood the process, ignored it and
expects approval after the fact. Putting past history aside, the following is a detailed review of
the interim use permit issues.
Expansion to the Driving Range and Berming
The applicant expanded the driving range with tees and sandtrap at the northeasterly comer of
the site, adjacent to Galpin Boulevard and Bluff Creek. The applicant also provided a berm
along Galpin Boulevard and adjacent to Galpin Boulevard in the northeast comer of the site. The
activity was illegal in the terms of expanding beyond what was approved with the original
conditional use permit and grading without a grading permit. The applicant did receive a grading
permit, after the fact, for the berm along Galpin Boulevard. All of the other grading activity,
including the berm and tee areas adjacent to Galpin Boulevard, were not part of the grading
permit and have not received city approval. These activities were tied to receiving city approval
with application for expansion of the site.
The original conditional use permit had 94 parking spaces. Currently, there are approximately
82 parking spaces. The 94 parking spaces were shown on the original plan to accommodate a
large batting cage/indoor activity building. This building was not permitted so the reduced
number of parking spaces were permitted. The expansion of the driving range will not require
additional parking and can be accommodated with the existing parking.
The berm areas are serving to enclose the proposed parking expansion, building and batting
cages. The berms will not intensify the use of the site and if properly stabilized would be
acceptable to staff. A detailed grading and drainage plan is required for these alterations to be
approved.
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Proposed Building
The plans submitted by the applicant show a proposed building located in the northeast comer
of the site at the comer of the two proposed berm areas. The proposed building is 1092 square
feet in size which exceeds the maximum square footage of a building permitted by 292 square
feet. The standards for driving ranges and miniature golf limit the size of a building on site to
800 square feet and of earth tone color. Staff therefore cannot permit the proposed building to
be installed since the area exceeds what is permitted as part of a driving range and miniature golf
course and would serve to intensify use of the site. A new building would have to meet building
code and provide bathroom facilities hooked up to a septic system.
Further expansion to the site should not be permitted until the existing property is brought up to
code and that a proper septic system is installed with the addition of proper bathroom facilities
and/or until the property is brought within the MUSA line and can be serviced by city sewer and
water. The proposed building exceeds the permitted size of 800 square feet. Therefore, staff
cannot recommend approval of the proposed building.
Batting Cages
On the plans submitted by the applicant, there is an area shown for batting cages. It is unclear
whether a building would be provided for the batting cages of if the batting cages would just be
located outdoors. Once again, the inclusion of batting cages will increase the use of the site
which is not being serviced properly with bathroom facilities. Therefore, staff would have to
recommend against the addition of the batting cages.
Parking Area
The applicant is currently creating an additional parking area. The site has been graded and is
being surfaced with a gravel. Staff visited the site on May 8, 1991, and placed a stop work order
to prevent the applicant from continuing work on the parking lot area. The existing parking lot
area adequately serves the existing use. If the addition of the batting cages, building, additional
tee area and sandtrap are not approved, then the need for additional parking area is not required.
Should the expansion of the site be approved, staff would recommend that the parking area be
paved with bituminous surface and curb and gutter and that detailed grading and drainage plans
be provided.
Video Games
The applicant is requesting permission to maintain the video games located in the existing
building on the site. Currently, there are 7 video games located within the building. When the
Planning Commission last reviewed this item, it was discussed that up to 10 video games could
be permitted within the building. This was not addressed as part of the original conditional use
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permit. Therefore, if the Planning Commission and City Council agree that video games could
be permitted on the site, the condition allowing the video games would have to be part of the
new interim use permit
Sie:n
The last time that the Planning Commission reviewed this issue, there was discussion on whether
or not the applicant should be permitted a sign at the site. It was felt that the applicant should
be allowed a sign to advertise his business but that the zoning ordinance should be amended to
allow signage in the Agricultural District Since this area is in such a transitional area with the
Comprehensive Plan showing it as the 1995 Study Area, staff would prefer not to amend the
zoning ordinance to allow signage in the Agricultural District but instead is recommending that
the sign be permitted as an amendment to the original conditional use permit The existing sign
is a 3 sided sign with each sign face 3' x 6' for a sign face total of 18 square feet During the
previous discussion, a sign of 32 square feet was going to be the maximum size of signs
permitted. Since the sign would be approved specifically for this site and is accessory to the use,
staff is recommending that the existing sign be permitted as part of the original conditional use
permit and that the size of each sign face shall not exceed 18 square feet The applicant will still
be able to maintain the 3 sides to the sign.
Miscellaneous
The applicant is installing a chain link fence throughout the site. The fence requires a building
permit. The applicant should be required to receive the permit for the fence.
SUMMARY
The Planning Commission and City Council have the following options to consider:
1. Recommend denial of the interim use permit and proposed existing expansion of the site
and pursue, through legal action, having the site being brought back into compliance with
the original conditional use permit.
2. Recommend denial of any expansion of the site until the site is brought up to code, i.e.
hook up to septic system site. meet any existing and new conditions of approval, then
expansion of some sort could be considered.
3. Recommend approval of the proposed expansion. all or part, and approve the proposed
changes as an interim use permit with a date established for removing the business once
the MUSA line is expanded to include the site.
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Should the Planning Commission and City Council recommend approval of any expansion of the
site, it should be made with the condition that the whole facility must be approved as an interim
use permit and that the applicant agree to the City revoking the existing conditional use permit.
This combines the facility under one permit and allows the city to set a date when the use must
be terminated. This would be advantageous by consolidating a confusing issue. Also, the site
is located in the proposed 1995 Study Area. The result of the study area could greatly affect
what uses would be compatible at this site. A termination date could be when the property is
within the MUSA line and/or when the 1995 Study Area is completed. H expansion is approved,
staff would recommend the following conditions:
1. The existing conditional use permit shall be revoked by the City Council and the existing
and new facility will become an interim use permit
2. The site will be brought into compliance with City Code and conditions of approval. This
includes hooking up to an approved septic site.
3. A grading and drainage plan shall be submitted by the applicant and approved by staff
prior to any more alterations are made to the site.
4. Any parking areas shall be paved with bituminous surface. Curb and gutter may be
required by the City Engineering Department after review of the grading and drainage
plans.
5. The building cannot exceed 800 square feet.
RECOMMEND A nON
Staff recommends the Planning Commission adopt the following motion:
1) "The Planning Commission recommends approval of a conditional use permit to permit
a 3 sided, 18 square foot sign to advertise the Swings facility.
2) The Planning Commission recommends denial of the interim use permit request for any
other improvements to the site for the following reasons:
a. The existing site is serviced by holding tanks and any further expansion of the site
should be properly serviced by a septic system site.
b. The applicant has expanded the site without prior approval of the city.
c. The site is not in compliance with approved city permits."
Note: If the application is denied, staff will continue to work with the applicant to bring the site
into compliance.
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A IT ACHMENTS
1. Letter from Steve Kirchman dated April 8, 1993.
2. Letter from Jo Ann Olsen dated December 9, 1992.
3. Letter from Jo Ann Olsen dated May 20, 1991.
4. Planning Commission minutes dated May 15, 1991.
S. City Council minutes dated November 16, 1987.
6. Planning Commission dated April 22, 1987.
7. Planning Commission minutes dated September 21, 1988.
8. Conditional Use Permit dated November 16, 1987.
9. Letter from DNR dated June 7, 1993.
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690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900 . FAX (612) 937-5739
MEMORANDUM
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Park and Recreation Commission
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Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director
DATE:
June 16, 1993
SUBJ:
Announcement of DNR Grant, Lake Susan Aeration
On June 3, 1993, I was contacted by Mr. Jerry Johnson of the Fisheries Section of the
Department of Natural Resources informing me that the city's application for a grant to purchase
an aerator for Lake Susan had been funded. The grant will pay for the acquisition of the aeration
unit, the city will be responsible for the provision of power and on-going maintenance. We will
take possession of the aerator this fall. As the commission may recall, the city's initial
application was forwarded to the DNR in 1992. Funding was not available that year; however,
our application remained valid resulting in its approval this year.
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PHONE METRO REGION FISHERIES, 1200 WARNER RD., ST. PAUL, MN 551~f;?Ip. r 4. 9."
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Mr. Todd Hoffman
Park and Recreation Coordinator
City of Chanhassen
690 Coulter Drive
P.O. Bex 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Dear Mr. Hoffman,
This letter is to inform you that your proposal for a portable aeration system at Lake Susan
was not funded for this fiscal year. As you may know, we are in the process of budget cuts
and only our most basic operating expenses were funded. In fact, we weren't given funding
for any of our aeration of fishing pier projects.
I will be happy to keep your proposal current and submit it with the next fiscal year's budget
proposal. If you are opposed to this, please indicate your intentions by the end of this
calendar year.
Gerald J. Johnson
Project Coordinator
MN DNR-Fisheries
AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER
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(612) 937-1900 . FAX (612) 937-5739
MEMORANDUM
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Park and Recreation Commission
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Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director
DATE:
June 17, 1993
SUBJ:
Regional Rail Corridor Interim Use Report
As the commission is aware, Hennepin Parks has.~sumed the lead in developing and maintaining
two regional trail corridors which pass through Cbanhassen--namely , the abandoned north and
south railroad tracks. The north trail is, for allpurposes, functional at present Hennepin Parks
will be facilitating crossing improvements onfhis triUl, in addition to a variety of other smaller
improvements. The southerly route is currently in thenrough" and will require substantial work.
In planning for these improvements, one q(the criticiU decisions remaining to be made is the
eventual terminus point of the trail. Fro.p1a regional.point of view, extending improvements
from the Eden Prairie border to Chaska.iS the clear choice. This approach allows multiple trail
loops to be accessed between the Cities of Eden Prairie, cpanhassen, Chaska, and Shakopee. The
saying, "Go the extra mile" approl'nately applies in this situation. The financial benefits of
stopping the trail short after coI11i.f1g so far do not out-wei~h the gain of going the extra mile.
Improving the entire Chanha~~n segment will also allo\Vfor convenient access to the new
District 112 high school caIIlpus located one mile north of the intersection of Bluff Creek Drive
and the railroad corridor.
Recommendation
It is recommended that coltlIllission request that a resolution addressed to the Hennepin Parks
Board of Directors be drafted and presentedJo the City..Councilforilpproval, advocating the
improvement of the Chicago and NorthwestelllRajJ:road, in its entirety, for use as a regional trail
corridor within the City of Chanhassen.
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MEMORANDUM
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Park and Recreation Commission
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Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director
DATE:
June 16, 1993
SUBJ:
Comprehensive Plan Update - On Hold
Due to the volume of work being addressed by staff at present coupled with the busy summer
season, I have no other option but to recommenqthe update of the Recreation Section of the
Comprehensive Plan be put on hold. I would$1tic;ipate picking this issue up again in the fall.
pc: Don Ashworth, City Manager
Paul Krauss, Planning Director
Mark Koegler, Hoisington-Koegler Group, Inc.
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690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739
MEMORANDUM
TO:
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Steve Winters, CSO
FROM:
Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director
DATE:
June IS, 1993
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Lake Ann Park
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I support your action of issuing citations for mega! parking at Lake Ann Corrununity Park.
Monday evenings the city hosts the corporate softball league; however, they are expected to
respect the rules of the park in the same m8nner ':.s any other park guest. Your continued
diligence in ensuring order at our parks is greatly appreciated. Please thank Deputy Kohler for
me as well.
pc: Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation Supervisor
Scott Harr, Public Safety Director
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To: Todd Hoffman
06-14-93
From: steven Winters--CSO
Just for your Information...Deputy Kohler and I went through Lake
Ann Park at about 2030 hours tonight and issued about fourteen
parking citations for parking on the grass and blocking a
culdesac(sp).
There were plenty of spots available to park throughout the park,
but people were just lazy.
I am passing this information on to you because several of the
cars we ticketed were part of the softball league. They felt we
were wrong citing them because they payed to be part of the
league and to use the park.
Thanks,
steven Winters
CITY OF
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690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739
MEMORANDUM
TO:
Don Ashworth, Oty Manager AI
Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director .r I fY
FROM:
DATE:
June 11, 1993
SUB]:
Land Use for Park Road Property
In response to your inquiry for input on the aforementioned property, I offer the following. It
is imperative that this site remain available for development as a trail corridorlpark area. It is
my understanding that this land had been "set aside" for these purposes prior to commencement
of the temporary stockpiling operation now occurring on a portion of the site. As discussed, I
will investigate the possibility of creating a multiple use site, i.e. park and stock yard, when
administering park planning operations for this site. My initial impression, however, would be
that the site is too restrictive for these uses to be compatible. The city is investing a great deal
in the development of the Highway SCorridor. This project includes the underpass located
directly north of this site, with access to and from this ~derpass traversing the site in question.
As you are aware, Riley Creek, flowing from Lake Ann to Lake Susan, also is home to this
property. I will forward additional information to you in this regard as it becomes available.
pc:
Charles Folch, Oty Engineer
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TRADE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
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ALL ACTIVB OOTDOOR RBCREATION GRANT RBCIPIBNTS
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outdoor Recreation Program staff
Transfer of the Outdoor Recreation Grant Program
RB:
Effective July 1, 1993 the Outdoor Recreation Grant
Program will transfer from the Department of Trade and
Economic Development (DTED) to the Department of Natural
Resources (DNR). This transfer includes all staff
currently assigned to the program. The phone numbers for
staff will not change, but there may be a brief delay in
phone service during the actual move. If you are unable
to reach staff at their phone numbers, you may call the
Office of Planning at (612) 296-0565 to leave a message.
The address effective July 1 is:
Outdoor Recreation Grant Program
Department of Natural Resources
Office of Planning
500 Lafayette Road, Box 10
st. Paul, MN 55155-4010
All active grant recipients will be receiving a project
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C ITV OF
CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739
MEMORANDUM
TO:
Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation Supervisor
Dawn Lemme, Program Specialist
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Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director
DATE:
June 1, 1993
SUBJ:
Lake Ann Park Operations
Effective immediately, all employees working
Park will thank each and every customer
parking permit, concession product, or
employees and you as supervisors will be
service does make the difference.
attendants or concessionaires at Lake Ann
a transaction at the park (purchasing a
"Thank you. Enjoy your visit." All
for upholding this directive. Customer
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METROPOLITAN MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT
2099 UNIVERSITY AVENUE WEST . ST. PAUL. MINNESOTA 55104-3431
612-645-9149 . FAX 612-645-3246 TOO use Minnesota Relay Service
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Business Admin.
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Parks and Recreation
City of Chanhassen
690 Coulter Drive
P.O. Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Dear Todd:
Thank you for sending the City Council minutes that I requested. Per your request I've
included a key to help identify the infonnation found on the MMCD section maps that you
have. Should you have any questions or need clarification about these maps please contaCt
Ernie Wermerskirchen.
Based on the information we have and unless we are advised otherwise, MMCD will
proceed with program operations in the City of Chanhassen Parks with the following
understanding:
1. Larval control materials and operations will continue providing prior notification
of the Park and Recreation Director.
2. Adult pest mosquito control materials and operations will be discontinued for
1993. The City will re-evaluate the adult pest mosquito control program in the fall
of 1993.
3. MMCD will no longer use the Chanhassen parks for the landing, loading, and
take off of helicopters.
4. MMCD will continue surveillance of Aedes triseriatus (and other human disease
vector species) mosquitoes providing prior notification of the Park and Recreation
Director. If surveillance indicates a need to control these adult mosquito
populations, the City would be notified, the area of treatment would be
conspicuously posted 24 hours prior to treatment, and Environmental Protection
Agency I Minnesota Department of Agriculture registered control materials would
be used for treatment.
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION EMPLOYER
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Todd Hoffman
May 20, 1993
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If you have any questions or need further information please contact Ernie Wermerskirchen
(Scott/Carver Operating Division Supervisor), Dr. Susan Palchick (Aedes Program
Manager), David Neitzel (Lyme Tick Surveillance and LaCrosse Encephalitis Prevention
Program Leader) and/or myself.
Sincerely,
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Ross Green
Public Information
cc: Don Ashworth, Chanhassen City Manager
Scott Harr, Chanhassen Public Safety Director
John Siegfried, Carver County Commissioner
Ernie Wermerskirchen
Dr. Susan Palchick
David Neitzel
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METROPOLITAN MOSQUITO CONTROL DISTRICT
~99~ MAPPING STANDARDS
HAND DRAWN 1& AERIAL HAPS:
~RAILS (Label "Trail")
CITY or TOWNSHIP BOUNDARY (if applicable)
BIGH TENSION LINES (Drawn in , labeled
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FENCE LINE (if applicable)
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-number all non-breeding ponds
RIVERS (Label)
BREEDING SITES (Solid line & numbered)
-indicating acreage is optional
POSSIBLE OR BORDERLINE BREEDING SITES
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-inclvdes temDorar~ breeding sites (old 999's)
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Buildings
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PARKS - ALL CITY, COUNTY AND STATE PARKS
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GOLF COURSES (Draw in holes if needed for aid in locating
harborage & breeding sites)
AIR PHOTOS
The most used roads should be labeled clearly and should be
highlighted with a yellow hiyhlighter. Label parks, landmarks
and various reference points with the correct names.
COLOR COPIES
Send us the original copy of each redrawn map and indicate on the
blue dot in the upper right hand corner of the map how many color
copies you would like. Remember: one copy is for the main office &
one copy is for Quality Assurance.
Ose a felt tip pen" or colored pencil to outline sites, rivers,
wooded areas, lakes, ponds ~nd c~eeks with appropriate colors.
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739
May 13, 1993
Mr. Jeffrey Schultz
Apt 1
417 11th Avenue SE
Minneapolis, MN 55414
Dear Mr. Schultz:
I would like to take this opportunity to congra., ~ you on accepting the full time temporary
Forestry Intern position with the City of Chanh~sse~. The length of your position will be for six
months and you will be paid at a rate of $7.5Qper hour. As a professional employee, you will
not qualify for overtime pay, however, you win be eIlgible for comp time. Comp time is based
on every two hours you work past a regul~.8 hour ~y, you will then earn one hour of comp
time that can be used for late morning arrivals or lea~g earlier in the afternoon. The use of
comp time per day cannot exceed 4 hourS:
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Your immediate supervisor will be Jq~ Olsen, Senior p. ner, and your regular working hours
will be from 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p:nt' You are entitledto',balf hour lunch break and two 15
minute breaks or a one hour lunch break. All of the person!)el policies in effect will also apply.
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If you have any questions regarding your employment with t1i~ City of Chanhassen or as to any
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conditions that I have stated:.above, jplease.,iet ittne"Dow;': If> note, I would like to take this
~~~~~tKI t~ ':~~J'():~;:~!9j'~;():!:~~,,!Ji~jt>1091,r~~~,;;~d.~~"pC1 that your stay
Sincerely,
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Todd Gerhardt
Assistant City Manager
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JOB DESCRIPTION
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
PosmON:
Forestry Intern
DEPARTMENT:
Planning Department
DATE:
May. 1993
OBJECTIVE AND SCOPE
RELATIONSHIPS
Reports to: Senior Planner and Park and Recreation Director
SPECIFIC RESPONSIBILITIES
Disease Control
1. Draft and implement a disease control and maintenance ordinance.
2. Develop a disease control program.
3. Provide guidance to residents on how to treat diseased trees and prevent the spread of the
disease.
Education
1. Provide educational material on trees (i.e. proper planting procedures. disease control.
protection during construction. etc.) in the form of newsletters and newspaper articles.
2. Be available to answer calls from residents and to make on-site visits.
3. Create a me on new technologies and use in public education.
Ordinances
1. Assist in the drafting of ordinances concerning tree preservation. landscaping
requirements. and parking lot requirements.
2. Assist in creating a list of trees suitable for boulevard plantings.
3. Assist in writing a sound management practices handbook.
Landscaoing Plans
1. Assist in the design of landscaping plans for public parks and open space.
2. Assist in the design of boulevard landscaping.
3. Assist in the design of reforestation plans.
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Woodland Management Plan
1. Complete the Woodland Management Plan/Survey.
2. Develop a preservation/reforestation plan using the data from the Woodland Management
Plan/Survey.
Site Visitations
1. Work with Planning Staff on review of development proposals involving trees.
2. Make ongoing site visits of developments during their construction to ensure the trees are
being properly protected.
Tree Board
Attend Tree Board meetings.
YOUTH COMMISSION
Carver, Carver County, Chanhassen, Chaska, Victoria, ISD 112
110600 Village Road
Chaska ~ 55318
AGENDA
YOUTH COMMISSION
Tuesday, June 15, 1993
7 PM
1)
2)
3)
4)
Meeting Room at J's Restaurant
Call meeting to order.
Approve Agenda
Review Minutes
Welcome Prospective Members
OLD BUSINESS
5)
Leadership Lab Review
A. Handout Newsletters
B. Announce June 28th Meeting
Purpose
Who may attend?
C. Article to area newspapers
Conference.
about May 7th Leadership
6)
7)
Update on Paint A Thon
Update on LWV-ECC.
Planning Committee Report by Natalie Rossini
8)
Review Committee Structure
Decide on Committees/Titles
Membership on Committees
Report back to our agencies.
Set up an annual schedule.
9)
When?
10) Summer plans?
Meetings?
Projects?
Presentations?
Articles?
NEW BUSINESS .
11) Research possibility of picture/info on YC in high school yearbook
12) Possible Project: Habitat for Humanity
Committee to look into it.
13) Other business.
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DISTRICT 112 YOUTH COMMISSION MEMBERS
High School Students
Adul1.f;
Carver County
Carly Sorscher
841 Hidden Lane
Excelsior MN 55331
Phone: 470-0041
2 year term. 1st term Expires 4/94
Carver County
Lori Johnson
3300 Tanadoona Drive
Excelsior MN 55331
Phone: 474-8085
1 year term 2nd term Exp 4/94
City of Victoria
LeeAnn Olinger
1841 Victoria Circle
Victoria MN 55386
Phone: 443-2734
1 year term. 1st term Exp. 4/93
City of Victoria
Louise Lehner
8649 South Fairway Point
Victoria MN 55386
Phone: 443-2326
2 year term. 1st term Exp 4/94
City of Chanha.c;;~en
Natalie Rossini
6800 Chaparral Lane
Chanhassen MN 55317
Phone: 474-1740
2 year term. 1st term Exp. 4/94
City of Chanha~~en
Susan Hunns
8542 Flamingo Drive
Chanhassen MN 55317
Phone: 368-4465
1 year term. 1 st tenn Exp. 4/93
City of Carver
Open
Lori Wellens or Josalyn Theis
Carver MN 55315
Phone:
2 year term. 1 st tenn Exp. 4/94
City of Carver
Open
Carver MN 55315
Phone:
1 year term. 1 st tenn Exp. 4/93
City of Cha.c;;ka
Molly DeB ower
812 Oriole Lane
Chaska MN 55318
Phone: 448-6108
1 year term. 1 st tenn Exp. 4/93
City of Cha.c;;ka
Phyliss Lindstrand
34 Carole Lane
Chaska MN 55318
Phone: 448-6065
2 year tenn. 1 st term Exp. 4/94
1 year term. 1st term Exp 4/93
Di~trict 112
Charles Lawler
2192 Grimm Road
Chaska MN 55318
Phone: 448-7675
2 year term. 1 st term Exp 4/94
Di~trict 112
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Carver, Carver County, Chanhassen, Chaska, Victoria, ISD 112
110600 Village Road
Chaska MN 55318
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Youth Commission Minutes--May 12,1993
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The meeting was held at J's restaurant with a focus of reflection
and goal setting. Chad Peterson called the meeting to order at
7.20. Members present were: Rich Lambert, Chad Peterson, Chris
Czerwonka, Natalie Rossini, Tanya Bishman, Carly Sorscher, Molly
DeBower, LeeAnn Olinger, Jeanne Straus, and Phyllis Lindstrand.
This was Carly Sorscher's first meeting; she will be filling
Czerwonka's position for 1993-1994.
To begin, Czerwonka read the Letter of Understanding; Sorscher,
Rossini, and Peterson read other articles relating to our
original purpose. The following discussion refers back to the
original goals of the Youth Commission in the Letter of
Understanding. We spoke on things we felt we had accomplished
this year, and then of the things we need to work on for the
coming year. The following is a list:
1. We began at one time to do a needs assessment and we
feel that it is very important that we do that to help define our
focus and best serve the youth. We want to do a survey of the
student body and the adults in the community. Possible ways:
written survey, speak-outs(focus and brainstorming nights),
survey for parents at conferences, survey by mail, clipboard,
? use of community center for multi-age contact. Jeanne spoke to
us regarding the United Way and their interest in a
resource/needs assessment of the Dist. 112 area.
2. Discussion regarding our role supporting Community
Values. We would like to have once a month articles in the area
newspapers on monthly focus values. Perhaps the Journalism dept.
or other students from Dist. 112 could provide the articles,
opening the opportunity for a greater amount of student
involvement. We would like to see youth representation on the
Values Committee, either trom student councilor the YCommission.
Speak-Out topics could also include the community values.
3. Under inter-agency cooperation we would like to
complete the resource directory that has been started but
abandoned for lack of time. We feel this would cover many goals
at once.
4. Under encouragement of home/school/community
partnerships we would like the YCommission and youth in general
more involved with the Site Council. Attendance by someone from
YCommission at meetings?
5. The resource directory was again discussed with seek
ways to coordinate info for youth. Also included were write-ups
in "Sights and Sounds"(newsletter for CHS) about our current
activities in each issue, more consistent communication between
us and our boards and councils, more students attending board
and council meetings, and continue the volunteer directory.
Discussed also was a new Historian position which would
coordinate written info concerning the YCommission (note.
bylaws need to be changed).
6. We feel we have been a good advocate for youth but we
need to continue and improve.
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We decided on two main YCommission goals re1ate~ to our purpose.
These are Communications, to improve our visibility and
communication between the towns we represent, and Needs
Assessment to be better aware of the needs we need to be
fulfilling and therefore better serve youth. Bishman motioned to
accept, Rossini seconded as focus for 1993-1994. Passed.
Discussion on need for operational goals as well. These include
improving time efficiency (especially during meetings) and
formation of subcommittees. These goals we hope will eliminate
lengthy meetings and define responsibilities within the
commission. There was also discussion on sticking to our bylaws
and having all members take a vow of commitment to the Youth
Commission. We decided to set a regular meeting time each month.
first Monday at 7.00 pm. DeBower motioned to accept above
recommendations, Olinger seconded. Passed.
Peterson, Czerwonka, and DeBower are members of the first sub-
committee concerning public relations and visibility. They are
responsible for an article concerning the conference we attended
on May 7, in St. Cloud entitled Youth and Adults Working Together
Effectively on Boards and Councils. This conference was an
inspiration to this meeting and to ideas for the coming year.
They will submit their article to the local papers and possibly a
school newsletter.
Lambert asked for youth representatives to present at the CEAC
meeting at 7.00 pm on May 17 for 15 minutes about the Youth
Commission and especially information we covered on May 7th and
tonight's meeting. Bishman and Olinger will be present to
present. At that time, Shannon Dilks their newest member will be
introduced to them by the YCommission.
Next meeting is set for June 7, 1993 at 7.00 pm at the ECC in the
board room. Olinger motioned for adjournment, Rossini seconded.
Submitted by, .
~~an. Secretary
CITY OF
CHAHHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147. CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739
MEMORANDUM
TO:
Scott Harr, Public Safety Director
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Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director
DATE:
June 8, 1993
SUB]:
Hunting Within Chanhassen City Limits
As administrator of the city's annual goose jemoval program, it is my opinion that the
availability of hunting areas within the City ofChanhassen reduces our dependence on the
removal program. The individuals participating in hunting in Chanhassen do so at their own
expense. while the removal program relies on general revenues. As you are aware, the Minnesota
Landscape Arboretum harvests deer by night shootin.g as a control measure. Collisions with
motor vehicles is another effective. although undesirable. controller of deer populations. In
summation. my message in this regard is. that although the general welfare of the public is
paramount and the landscape of the city is changing rapidly; hunting within the city's boundaries
remains an effective tool in controlling. undesirable wildlife populations.
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Mayor and City Council
~d Recreation Commission
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Chaska High School
Marie D. Hasty. Activities Director
1700 Chestnut Street (Hwy. 41 N.)
Chaska. Minnesota 55318
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June 4, 1993
Dear Todd,
This letter serves as an invitation to participate in the Co-Curricular Programming/Site
Development Sub-Committee.
The goal of this sub-committee is:
1) To investigate the partnerships that may be created to serve
the students/community at the .new. high school. This will include
a discussion of fiscal resources to follow the partnership.
2) To provide a plan of the arrangement of facilities allowing for
traffic flow (human and vehicular), plan of contiguous facilities
both indoor and outdoor.
3) To hold discussion and provide a plan for access to educational as
well as co-curricular activities.
4) How will all of the District 112 resident communities (Chaska,
Chanhassen, Victoria, East Union, Carver) be included in
access/design consideration of this space?
Meetings have been scheduled for June 14 and 21 in the Career Resource Room at Chaska High
School. The meeting will begin at 5:00 p.m. and end at 7:00 p.m. A light supper will be
provided.
Please confirm your willingness to participate on this committee by calling my office at your
earliest convenience. The number is 448-8614.
Thank you for considering this opportunity. I look forward to hearing from you.
Sincerely,
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Marie Hasty
Activities Director
JUN 071941
. . . CITY OF CHANHASS
Servmg the communities of eastern Carver County through equal opportunity in employment and education. EN
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A gathering place where our community of learners prepares for
continuous progress and celebrates excellence in learning.
OPTIONS TO CONSIDER
--flexible space
--access
--welcoming environment
--round the clock learning
--ownership/security collaboration
--age families of student, cross grade levels
(some age grouping of lockers)
--integration
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1. VISION STATEMENT
2. DEFINE GOALS
- Function - people, activities, relationships
- Form - site, environment, building
- Economic - initial budget, operating costs, life cycle costs
- Time - schedule, future considerations
3. ESTABLISH FA(,"TS
- Curriculum Parameters
- Spatial Parameters
- Resource Needs
- Planning Assumptions
- Technology Needs
- Critical Dimensions
4. DEFINE CONCEPTS (Qualitative idem; for realizing goals]
- Site
- Building Organization
- Design Concepts
- Functional Relationships
- Circulation and Access
- Technology Integration
- F1exiblity
5. DEFINE NEEDS
- Quantity of Spaces
- Size of Spaces
- Total Building Area
- Site Activities and Facilities
6. BUDGET
- Building Costs
- Equipment Costs
- Soft Costs
- Total Project Budget
7. SCHEDULE
- Design Milestones
- Bid Date
- Construction Period
- Building Occupancy
Chaska High School
HGA Architects
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Physical Education
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Main gym (2,500 seats) 3 1 17,000 17,000
Aux. Gym (Gymnastics) wfMain 0
Wrestling/PE Fitness 1 1 5,000 5,000
Wrestling Mat Storage 1 400 400
Weight Room 1 1 3,500 3,500
Gym Storage 1 2,000 2,000
Training Room 1 1,000 1,000
Boy's PE Locker Room 1 3,500 3,500
Men's Team Lockers 1 1,500 1,500
Men Coaches 1 200 200
Visitors Lockers 1 1,200 1,200
Girl's PE Locker Room 1 3,500 3,500
Women's Team Lockers 1 1,500 1,500
Women Coaches 1 200 200
Athletic Equip. (Exterior) 1 1,000 1,000 41,soo
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Girls' PE Locker Room
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Training Room
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Carver, Carver County, Chanhassen, Chaska, Victoria, ISD 112
110600 Village Road
Chaska 1{N 55318
AGENDA
YOUTH COMMISSION
Tuesday, June 15, 1993
7 PM
Meeting Room at Jls Restaurant
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2)
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4)
Call meeting to order.
Approve Agenda
Review Minutes
Welcome Prospective Members
OLD BUSINESS
5)
Leadership Lab Review
A. Handout Newsletters
B. Announce June 28th Meeting
Purpose
Who may attend?
C. Article to area newspapers
Conference.
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about May 7th Leadership
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7)
Update on Paint A Thon
Update on LWV-ECC.
Planning Committee Report by Natalie Rossini
8)
Review Committee Structure
Decide on Committees/Titles
Membership on Committees
Report back to our agencies.
When?
9)
10) Summer plans?
Presentations?
s~t up an annual schedule.
Meetings?
Projects?
NEW BUSINESS .
Articles?
11) Research possibility of picture/info on YC in high school yearbook
12) Possible Project: Habitat for Humanity
Committee to look into it.
13) Other business.
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DISTRICT 112 YOUTH COMMISSION MEMBERS
High L~chool L~tudent~
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Carver County
Carly Sorscher
841 Hidden Lane
Excelsior MN 55331
Phone: 470-0041
2 year term. 1st term Expires 4/94
Carver County
Lori Johnson
3300 Tanadoona Drive
Excelsior MN 55331
Phone: 474-8085
1 year term 2nd term Exp 4/94
City of Victoria
LeeAnn Olinger
1841 Victoria Circle
Victoria MN 55386
Phone: 443-2734
1 year term. 1st term Exp. 4/93
City of Victoria
Louise Lehner
8649 South Fairway Point
Victoria MN 55386
Phone: 443-2326
2 year term. 1st term Exp 4/94
City of Chanha~~en
Natalie Rossini
6800 Chaparral Lane
Chanhassen MN 55317
Phone: 474-1740
2 year term. 1 st term Exp. 4/94
City of Chanha.~~en
Susan Hurms
8542 Flamingo Drive
Chanhassen MN 55317
Phone: 368-4465
1 year term. 1st term Exp. 4/93
City of Carver
Open
Lori Wellens or Josalyn Theis
Carver MN 55315
Phone:
2 year term. 1 st term Exp. 4/94
City of Carver
Open
Carver MN 55315
Phone:
1 year term. 1st term Exp. 4/93
City of Cha~ka
Molly DeB ower
812 Oriole Lane
Chaska MN 55318
Phone: 448-6108
1 year term. 1st term Exp. 4/93
City of Cha.~ka
Phyliss Lindstrand
34 Carole Lane
Chaska MN 55318
Phone: 448-6065
2 year term. 1st term Exp. 4/94
1 year term. 1st term Exp 4/93
ni~trict 112
Charles Lawler
2192 Grimm Road
Chaska MN 55318
Phone: 448-7675
2 year term. 1st term Exp ~/94
ni~trict 112
Open.
Community Ed Advis01:Y Council
Shannon Dilks
110104 Arboretum Way
Chaska MN 55318
Phone: 448-3779
1 year term. 1 st term Exp. 4/94
Community Ed Advisot:}' Council
Rich Lambert
17446 Vergus Ave.
Jordan MN 55352
Phone: 440-1325
2 year term. 1st term Exp 4/94
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Non-Voting Member
Community Ed Staff Liaison
Jeanne Straus
110600 Village Road
Chaska MN 55318
368-3686
There are currently? openings.
1. Youth School Board (Tanya)
2. Youth - City of Carver (Chad)
3. Adult - City of Carver (Ken)
4. Youth - City of Victoria (LeeAnn) Reapply?
5. Youth - City ofChaska (Molly) Reapply?
6. Adult - Chanhassen (Susan) Reapply?
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MINNESOTA ORCHESTRA
COFFEE CONCERT
Thursday, July 1
9:45 a.m. · 1:45 p.m.
Featuring the Cabaret Pops Big Band and Norman Leyden's
salute to "Make Believe Ballroom." It's the best of Glen
Miller, Harry James, Tommy Dorsey, Benny Goodman, and
more.
Fee: $2S.00/person includes transportation
and reserved seats (4 rows back from
center stage!)
Pre-registration is required
Call 937-1900 for more information
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MiDDe.ota Orchestra RegiJUatiOll FonD
Name:
Phone:
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Fee Enclosed:
Program Code No: ACON93 10
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FREE MUSIC IN THE CITY OF CHANHASSEN's
FUTURE CENTRAL PARK
(South of City Hall. corner of 78th Street and Kerber Blvd.)
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Chanhassen's 4th of July
Men's & Co-Rec
Annual Softball Tournament
July 4, 1993
Double Elimination
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The City of Chanhassen Will Not Be Held Uable For Injuries Occurrinr In Any WIQ'
Because Of This Tournament.
ENTRY WlLL BE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THIS RIJI.F. .
All Games To BE Played On Schedule 5S Minutes/10-Run Rule After S-Innlngs.
Tournament Will Be Run On A NO PROTEST Basis.
All Umpire'. Decisions Will Be Binding And Floal.
Roster MUST Be Turned In 30 Minutes Before Your Flrst Game.
Teams May Carry 15 Players.
USSSA RULES USSSA UMPIRFS
Parking Permit is required for all vehicles entering Lake Ann Park.
($2.00 a day or $5.00 for the year for resident/$IO.OO for non-resident) ~
Make checks payable to: City of Chanhassen
Mall in or drop off entry form to:
Park and Recreation Department
690 Coulter Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
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Team Name:
Mgr's Address:
City:
Chanhassen'. 4th of July
Men'. & Co-Rec
Annual Softball Tournament Registration Form
Mgr's Name:
Phone:
Zip: Area & League:
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Entry Fee:
Deadline Date:
Lake Ann Park, Chanhassen, Minnesota
$75
Men's - First 12 Teams by June 25, 1993
Co-Rec - First 8 Teams by June 25, 1993
1st Place - 4th of July T-Shirts
2nd Place - Chanhassen Hats
3rd Place - Chanhassen Sport Squeeze Bottles
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Prizes:
Men's 0
Co-Rec 0
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July 2, 3 & 4th "~.
Friday, July 2nd :,.
City Center Park. '..
- Rotary Community Picnic
. -Street Dance . . ..'
Saturday, July 3rd
Lake Ann Park.
-Family Fun Day
Sunday, July 4th
Lake Ann~ Park
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~Adult Fishing Contest
-Co-Rec/Men's Softball Tournaments - .
.- · Fireworks'
You still have time to join this list of special 4th of July
sponsors · Call the Park and Recreation omce at
937.1900 today. .
InstaDt Web Comp.....
RosemouDt, IDe.
Empak, Ine.
RedmoDd Products
Aagard West
AdveDture BallooDl
J. Scotty Bullden, IDe.
ChaDhasseD AmerlclD UPOD Post 1580
ChaDhasseD Bo"Will,'.
ChaDhasseD State BIDk
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Hair for Gall.nd DolJJ .
CblDhassen CIilld Development Center
Acroloop Motion Control SJlteDll
AmerlcaDa CommaDlty B.ak
Lotu G.rden Ceater .. ..
Robert'. Aatomatlc: IDe., . .
Aula U Orleatal CalsiDe
Automated BundiDl Compoa.a.
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