1988 07 12 Agenda
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AGENDA
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
TUESDAY, JULY 12, 1988, 7:30 P.M.
CHANHASSEN CITY HALL, 690 COULTER DRIVE
1.
Call to order.
2.
Approval of Eagle Scout Project.
3.
Request to Sign Trail, Chanhassen Pond Park.
4.
New Proposal for Community Center, Jim Mady.
5.
Subdivision Review, Tim Erhart.
6.
Administrative Section:
a. Letter to NSP from Gary Warren.
b. Sample Ordinance from City Attorney.
c. Letter to Lotus Lake Homeowners Association from Scott
Harr.
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FROM: JON PAHL
TO: CHANHASSEN PARK AND REC
PROPOSED EAGLE SCOUT PROJECT AT CARVER BEACH PARK
Mark off four parking stalls and trail
install chains and posts
spread out and level rock for trail
place wheel-stops
city to remove excess rock and install signs
Landscape around parking area and trail
seed or sod as needed where rock is removed
plant bushes and trees as indicated by plan
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CITY OF CHANIiASSEl\J
MATERIAL LIST
. PLANTS
Red Splendor Crab (3)
Bachmans-$30.00 each
Hartman-$
Isanti Dogwood (23)
Bachmans-unavailable
Hartman-$
Halla-$15.00-18.00
WHEEL-STOPS
wheel-stops are already at site. I will cut them to size and
place them where indicated on plan.
POSTS
Menards-$-unavailable
SEE ATTATCHED
BLACK DIRT
$20.00 to $25.00/yard delivered.
SOD/SEED
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sod will probably be unavailable due to drought
seed- $20.00/1000 square feet
CHAIN-galvanized steel
Olsen chain and cable- 1/2 guage 5.30/foot
GRAVEL
free-gravel will be taken from existing parking area
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Regarding the posts or bollards needed for this project:
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Since I was having trouble locating the 10 inch diameter, round
cedar posts specified on the plan, I called John Krantz, WOOD
PRODUCTS SPECIALIST for the DNR to get some informa~on.
John told me that the posts chosen for this project would be
hard to impossible to find. He also said that they wg~e not
the best posts for this job due to the following reasons:
1. 10 " round posts made out of cedar are fast to rot
(they usually last less than 10 years)
2. they are costly
3. their size is not consistent
4. they may be hollow in the middle
I was able to get one price quote for a similar post:
Bell Lumb~r and Pole Co. 633-4334
778 NW first St
New Brighton, MN
Western Red Cedar Poles-class 3 .
35' long, 37" circumferance at 6'
from butt. 2-3 posts/pole
poles are tapered.
COST- 129.00 plus shipping and handling/pole
(150-250.00 per pole to-bring to plans spec.)
TOTAL COST-$750. to
1750. (
As an alternative to the proposed post I received the following
bid:
Timber Wall Landscaping-Chaska
443-2808
8"x8"x8' brown treated cedar
$18.00 each $126.00
delivery- $15.00
$141. 00*
*price does not include tax
Note: Labor free to make design cuts in brown treated cedar
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TIME SCHEDULE AND FUNDING REQUIREMENTS
Time Schedule
August 13-14
establish four parking stalls
spread gravel over trail
spread black dirt
place wheel-stops
install posts and chains
August 20-21
plant bushes and trees
lay sod or spread grass seed
aater all areas
August 27-28
complete any finishing work
FUNDING-(estimated based on current plan)
plants - "/'3S",D0 1:0 6~S 00
sod -
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black dirt - 400 DO
posts_Il-/I.OD
chain - 3/' 00
wheel-stops - O.oD
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Note: Plants will be watered every other day(if no rain) for
2-3 weeks after planting and as needed after that. Sod
or seed will also be watered accordingly.
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7261 Sierra Court
Chanhassen, Mn. 55317
June 30, 1988
Lori Sietsema
Farks and Recreation Coordinator
690 Coulter Drive
Chanhassen, y~. 55317
Dear Lori,
As per our telephone conversation ot June 28, I am requesting
cooperation from the Parks and Recreation Department to clearly
mark the public access around Chanhassen Pond.
My husband and I live at the end of the cul-de-sac next to the
pond, at 7261 Sierra Court, lot 'number 4. Since we moved into
our new home in January, we have experienced constant and
continual traffic of skiers, bicyclists, dog walkers, and family
outings through our back yard. Apparently, these people think
that the public access to Chanhassen Pond runs through the back .
of our lot. Indeed, it appears that way atter hundreds ot
feet have formed a visible path mark at the back border of our
yard. We have posted signs on the limits of our property, stating
the land as private, but this has not helped. We are preparing
to grade and seed this particular portion ot the yard and this
continual traffic would destroy our efforts.
I have heard that there is a possibility of a paved path leading
from another location in our cul-de-sac to the pond. Is it
possible, at this time to simply grade this path so people
will have a visible alternati'~: route to the pond? Additionally,
I ask for your cooperation by posting signs at the end of the
footbridge, stating the direction of the public path, specitically
noting that to continue north of the bridge would be trespassing
on private property.
I trust you have an accurate map of the area to show the commissioners
on July 12. I am planning to attend that meeting, but please
feel free to contact me at home at 937-5992 it you have any
questions betore then.
Sincerely,
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PRC DATE: July 12, 1988
CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
C.C. DATE:
CASE NO: 88-18 SUB
Prepared by: Sietsema
STAFF REPORT
PROPOSAL:
Subdivision of 76.5 Acres into Two Single Family
Lots
LOCATION:
775 West 96th Street
APPLICANT:
Tim Erhart
775 West 96th Street
Chanhassen, MN 55317
PRESENT ZONING:
A-2, Agricultural Estate
ACREAGE:
76.5 acres
DENSITY:
ADJACENT ZONING
AND LAND USE:
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EXISTING PARKS: Currently, there are no neighborhood parks serving
this area. Trails are planned in the area but
have not yet been developed.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN:
The Comp Plan identifies the southern portion.
of Chanhassen as deficient in community parks.
As this is within the rural area, neighborhood
type parks are not required. Th~ trail plan
calls for nature trails along the northwest
corner of the parcel, along the eastern boun-
dary, and along the southern boundary.
Erhart Subdivision
July 12, 1988
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BACKGROUND
The applicant is proposing to subdivide this 76.5 acre parcel
into two lots; 66.5 acres and 10 acres. The applicant currently
lives in the existing buildings on the site.
As mentioned, the comprehensive trail plan identifies trail
segments along the southern and eastern boundaries and northwest
corner. The applicant, Tim Erhart, helped us to identify these
natural trail segments which will connect to the Bluff Creek
nature trail system. These trail sections should be requested as
20 foot wide easements.
Although the neighborhood parks are not required in this area,
the 66.5 acre lot should not be overlooked as a potential park
site to be acquired with referendum bonds.
RECOMMENDATION
It is the recommendation of this office to approve the proposal
contingent upon dedication of 20 foot wide trail easements along
the southern and eastern boundaries and along the wetlands in the
northwest corner. Also, staff would recommend that this parcel .
be considered for the south parkland, approved in February's
referendum. Staff does not recommend the acquisition of a por-
tion of the land for neighborhood park use.
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690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
July 5, 1988
Northern States Power Company
Minnetonka Division
Attn: Mr. Marlow Peterson
Manager of Community Services
5505 County Road 19
P.o. Box 10
Excelsior, MN 55331
Re: South Lotus Lake
Park-Light Request
File No. PW003
Dear Marlow:
The Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission has requested that ~
a light be installed at the South Lotus Lake Boat Access in the
City of Chanhassen. The light would be used primarily for
security lighting purposes. The preferred location for the
street light would be in the area of the City sanitary sewer lift
station near the boat ramp. I would appreciate receiving your
estimate of cost for the installation of this light and a recom-
mendation as to the type of light fixture most appropriate to
this need, i.e. security and vandal proof.
I would appreciate receiving this information at your earliest
opportunity. I have enclosed a map to help you with the location
of this light.
Sincerely,
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
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Attachment: Location Map
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V AN(E B. GkANNIS
VANCE B. GRANNIS, JR.
PATRIlK A. FARREll.
DAVID 1. GkANNIS, 111
ROGER N. KNUTSON
LAW OffiCES
GRANNIS, GRANNIS, FARREll & KNUTSON
PROfESSIONAL ASSOCIATION
POST OffiCE Box 57
403 NOR WEST BANK BUILOING
161 NORTH CONCORD EXCHANGE
SoUTH ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA 55075
TELEPHONE (612) 455-1661
TEUCOPIER;
(612) 455-2359
DAVJI) L. HARMEYER
ELLIOTT D. KNETSCH
MICHAEL J. MAYER
TIMOTHY J. BERG
.DAVID 1. GRANNIS - 1874-1961
DAvJIl 1. GRANNIS,JR. - 1910-1980
June 28, 1988
Mr. Don Ashworth
Chanhassen City Hall
690 Coulter Drive, Box
Chanhassen, Minnesota
147
55317
RE: Mooring Boats and Location
of Swimming Rafts
Dear Don:
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Enclosed is an ordinance amendment which addresses your
concern about the above-matter. The ordinance amendment would
require DNR approval.
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Enclosure
cc: B;:,~acy
Z;i ~ietsema
Jim Chaffee
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JUN 30 1988
CITY OF CHANHASSE.C
ORDINANCE NO.
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES, MINNESOTA
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 6 OF THE CHANHASSEN
CITY CODE CONCERNING BOATS AND WATERWAYS
The City Council of the City of Chanhassen ordains:
SECTION 1. Section 6-27(b) is amended in its entirety to
read as follows:
(b) No watercraft shall be moored, docked or stored overnight
on any lakeshore site or on the waters of any lake
unless:
(1) currently registered, pursuant to Minnesota Statutes
Chapter 361 in the name of the owner of a lakeshore
site on the lake or in the name of a member of the
owner's household; or
(2) If moored in the waters of any lake overnight it .
must be moored directly out from and within twenty-
five (25) feet of a lakeshore site owned by the
owner of the watercraft.
Currently registered as a guest boat at any
privately-owned commercial resort or commercial boat
landing located on the lake.
SECTION 2. Section 6-28 is amended by adding
subparagraph (c) to read:
(3)
(c)
Swimming rafts left overnight in the waters of any lake
must be anchored directly out from and within twenty-five
(25) feet of a lakeshore site owner by the owner of the
swimming raft. All swimming rafts must have an
identification plaque containing the name, address, and
phone number of the owner.
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SECTION 3. This ordinance shall become effective
immediately upon its passage and publication.
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ADOPTED by the Chanhassen City Council this
, 1988.
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
BY:
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Thomas L. Hamilton, Mayor
ATTEST:
Don Ashworth, City Manager
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690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
June 28, 1988
Lotus Lake Hareowners Association
Attn: Ms. Cindy Gilman
6613 Horseshoe Curve
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Dear Friends:
First, I enjoyed attending your meeting last night. I thought that excellent
points were raised, with productive discussion occurring.
Secondly, as promised, I have begun to research the issues brought up. I would
like to remind you that I will be frank in advising you of the areas that we can
and cannot be of assistance.
The following is what I have learned to date:
1. I have established contact with the Hennepin County Sheriff's Water Patrol
in order to utilize their expertise in the area of watercraft enforc~-Ot.
2. I have met with Lori Sietsema and obtained the following inforrration:
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a. The gate attendants are keeping records of park use;
b. The gate attendants were trained on how to deal with unruly people, as
well as how to sumron help when needed;
c. The gate attendants are handing out the rules;
d. Lori advised me that there is presently no law against swimning in the
access area and that she questions the need for such a law at this time;
e. There is a phone in the attendant shack.
3. I also discussed the matter of City Code amendments with Lori (specifically
the areas of limiting horsepower of watercraft on the lake; further regu-
lating hours of watercraft operation; and restricting the operation of jet
ski-type watercraft). She advises me that the proper way to pursue such is
to obtain arrendments to the Water Surface Zoning Ordinance, and that she is
the City staff person to work with in order to develop such additions to our .
Code.
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690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
MEMORANDUM
TO: Park and Recreation Commission
FROM: Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinator ~
DATE: July 13, 1988
SUBJ: Joint Meeting with Public Safety Commission
The Park and Recreation Commission requested to meet with the
Public Safety Commission to discuss a number of park issues.
This meeting has been scheduled for Thursday, July 21 at 8:00
p.m. in the lower level of the Main Fire Station, 7610 Laredo
Drive. Please plan to attend this special meeting, but if you are
unable to so, call me at 937-1900.
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Tentative Agenda
1. Officers Patrolling Parks.
2. Glass Ordinance Amendment.
3. Alcohol in Parks and Existing Problems with Minors.
4. Complaints at South Lotus Lake Access.
cc: Jim Chaffee, Public Safety Director
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