1987 03 03 Agenda
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AGENDA
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
TUESDAY, MARCH 3, 1987, 7:30 P.M.
CHANHASSEN CITY HALL, 690 COULTER DRIVE
1. Call to order.
2. Minutes of February 20, 1987.
3. Park Need Survey Recommendation, Pat Pfahl.
4. 4th of July Fireworks Contract.
5. Annual Easter Egg Hunt.
6. Update on City Council Action Regarding Park Related Items.
7. North Lotus Lake Park Revisions.
8. Trail Plan Review, Mark Koegler.
9. Herman Field Access Plan.
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CHANHASSEN PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
R ULAR MEETING
FE UARY 10, 1987
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MEMBERS
Corpian,
Recreation Commission meeting was called to order b
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ESENT: Jim Mady, Curt Robinson, Ed Hasek, Carol W tson, Gloria
Larry Schroers.
Election of
and Vice-Chairperson.
ike Lynch for
All voted in favor and
MEMBERS ABS
Mike Lynch
Curt Robinson m ~ed, Ed Hasek seconded to nominated
Chairperson of to and Recreation Commission.
motion carried.
Curt Robinson moved, Carol Watson seconded to n
Chairperson of the Pa k and Recreation Commis
motion carried.
inate Jim Mady for Vice-
All voted in favor and
Approval of Minutes:
Curt Robinson moved, Jim dy seconded approve the Minutes of the Park
and Recreation Commission m etings dat January 6, 1987 and January 20,
1987. All voted in favor exc pt the n w Commission members who abstained
and motion carried.
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Carol Watson: There were comme t made about specific parks, you and I
talked briefly about it, about Gr en wood Shores Park which is just about a
block down the road from me I g s and the no parking signs and whether
they deny access and whether p rk m ney should be predicated on access.
I've lived there for 15 years and thI is the fi rst time we have been on
the park budget.
Jim Mady: Clark raised t
into the park.
we should be putting any money
Carol Watson: Clark a d I have waltzed this one around several times.
Jim Mady: We, pret
means we fix it
as a commission, fe t that if we have a park that
what happened last
Councilman John
night on this
you maybe
What are you talking about?
Councilma Johnson: On the capital improvements That's what
you're d'scussing right? The no parking signs and the endment to the
capita improvements budget that was approved last night was only areas
with ree access will be allowed to spend their budget. other words, i..
the 0 parking signs stay up in Greenwood Shores and Carve~ Beach, then ~
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MEMORANDUM
DATE:
TO:
FROM:
RE:
February 25, 1987
Chanhassen Parks and Recreation Committee
Patrick J. Pfahl
Proposed Draft of Parks and Recreation Survey
Attached you will find a copy of the proposed draft of the
Parks and Recreation survey commissioned by the Chanhassen Parks
Department. The survey form is written as a telephone script for
completing the study. The survey will be discussed at the next
meeting of the Parks Committee, please bring any suggestions or
comments to that meeting.
TOPICS STUDIED
The major topical areas covered in the survey include;
-Facilities
-Programs
-Funding
~Personal/Household Information
Other specific conclusions which may be extrapolated either
directly or indirectly from the data are public interests in:
-trail system,
-indoor recreational community center,
-local demographics (for comparison), and
-relative importance of major park and recreation services.
SURVEY FORMAT
The survey has been developed in the form of a telephone
script. It takes approximately seven minutes to complete one
survey. At an estimated five surveys per hour, with six people
calling 6 hours per day, approximately 180 surveys will be done
per day. In order to achieve a statistically valid sample of the
population 340 of the 3000 households in Chanhassen must be
contacted.
A telephone survey was chosen as the form for the survey
over a personal interview and mail survey due to cost and time
requirements.
Please review the enclosed draft and feel free to make any
comments or suggestions. If you have any further questions
regarding the survey, please contact me at 224-6040.
Thank you.
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CHANHASSEN PARK AND RECREATION STUDY
PROPOSED SCRIPT
Hello! My name is [your name], and I am working with Chanhassen's Park
and Recreation department. We are doing a public interest survey on
the city's parks and recreation needs. I would like to ask you a few
questions which will greatly help in defining the future direction of .
our city's park and recreation facilities. Do you have a few minutes
to answer some questions?
1-
(1)
(2)
(3)
(4)
(5)
(6)
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3.
4.
[I. HOUSEHOLDS]
How long have you lived in Chanhassen?
Less than 1 year.
1 to 5 years.
6 to 10 years.
11 to 25 years.
more than 25 years.
I do not live in Chanhassen.
How many people live in your household?
(1) (write nuIDber)
Do you have any children in your household? [under 18]
(1) no
(2) yes (how many?)
(3) _ (write number)
How
(1)
(2)
(3 )
(4)
could your residence be described?
Single family house.
MaBile aElme.
Multi unit dwelling. (apartment, townhouse, duplex, etc)
Other
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[II. FACILITIES]
5. I will read off a list of recreation facilities and for each
one please tell me if you think there are either TOO MANY, JUST
ENOUGH, or TOO FEW adequate facilities of that kind convenient to you.
Please answer for your household even if you are not interested in a
particular facility.
(1) Beaches............TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(2) Boat Launches......TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(3) Paved bike paths...TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(4) Camp grounds.......TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(5) Walking paths......TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(6) Tennis courts......TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(7) CC Ski trails......TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(8) Natural areas......TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(9) Fishing docks......TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(10) Jogging trails.....TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
Does your HOUSEHOLD think there are:
(11) Golf courses.......TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(12) picnic areas.......TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW .
"( 13) Hiking trails......TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(14) Nature centers.....TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(15) Skating rinks......TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(16) Baseball fields....TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(17) Playground Equip...TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(18) Ice arena..........TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(19) Open Air Shelter...TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
. (20 ) Neighborhood parks. TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
( 21) Racket ball courts.TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(22) Swimming pool......TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(23) Wht lifting equip..TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
(24 ) Indoor tennis crts.TOO MANY JUST ENOUGH TOO FEW
[III. PROGRAMS]
The next question deals with programs.
6. I will read you a list of activities, and for each activity
please indicate wether or not you would participate if the activity
were.o~fered in c~anhassen, the~ wether or not you currently
part~c~pate. Aga~n, let me rem~nd you that you are answering for your
household.
Would your household participate in:
(1) Open swimming in pool......YES NO
(2) Swimming lessons...........YES NO
(3) Martial arts (karate)......YES NO
(4) Aerobics...................YES NO
(5) Childrens dance.classes....YES NO
(6) Youth gymnastics...........YES NO
. (7) Basketball.................YES NO
(8) Tennis (league or lessons).YES NO
(9) Softball...................YES NO
(10) Soccer.....................YES NO
Again keeping in mind your entire household.
(11) Little league baseball.....YES NO
(12) Youth Hockey...............YES NO
(13) Adult Hockey...............YES NO
(14) Racketball.................YES NO
(15) Indoor tennis .............YES NO
(16) Weight lifting.............YES NO
(17) Indoor running/track.......YES NO
(18) Indoor skating.............YES NO
[Past 12 months]
Does your household
currently participate?
YES NO
YES NO
YES NO
YES NO
YES NO
YES NO
YES NO
YES NO
YES NO
YES NO
YES NO
YES NO
YES NO
YES NO
YES NO
YES NO
YES NO
YES NO
7. What park do you most often use in Chanhassen?
[write out]
[v. COMMUNITY CENTER]
8. Do you think that the City of Chanhassen needs an indoor recreational
community center offering such facilities as a swimming pool, tennis courts
racketball, a gymnasium, meeting facilities,. or an ice arena?
(1)
'2)
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YES
NO
[comment]
[IV. FUNDING]
9. Next I will read a list of major services provided by the
parks department. For each of the services please indicate if you
think we should spend LESS, the SAME, or MORE for each service.
L S M (1)
L S M (2)
L S M (3)
L S M (4)
L S M (5)
L S M (6)
Organized recreation programs [more activities
like swimming lessons, little league etc].
Acquiring additional park land.
Physical improvements to enable specific programs
[ball fields-picnic areas-beaches]
Improvement and enlargement of trail network.
Landscaping and maintenance of existing parks.
Park supervision and police surveillance.
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10. Park and recreation operating costs are increasing. There
are generally three ways to meet these increased costs; REDUCED
SERVICES, INCREASED TAXES, OR USER FEES. Do you feel the following
method is acceptable to meeting increased costs?
(1) Reduced services
(2) Increased taxes
(3) User fees
(4) Other [specify]
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(1)
(2)
(3)
(4)
12.
( 1)
(2)
(3)
(4)
(5)
(6)
YES
YES
YES
NO
NO
NO
[VI.
The last questions are
What is your age?
17 or under
18 - 34
35 - 59
60 or over
PERSONAL]
personal in nature directed toward you.
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Do you work full time or part time?
Full time paying job
Part time paying job
Currently no paying job
Homemaker
Student
Retired
13. What city do you work in?
[write in]
Thank you for your participation in the parks survey, your input is
greatly appreciated. Goodbye.
[14.
(1)
(2)
Was the respondent?]
Male
Female
Comments or particular circumstances:
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CITY OF
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690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
MEMORANDUM
TO:
Park and Recreation Commission
DATE:
Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation coordinato~~~~_
February 26, 1987
FROM:
SUBJ:
Fireworks Display Quotes
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I will have quotes from at least two fireworks display companies
on Tuesday evening. I apologize for not including them in this
packet, however, the companies will not have them to me until
Monday. We have in the past awarded the contract to Banner
Fireworks Display Company. Unless the quotes come in vastly dif-
ferent, I would like to continue to use Banner as they have been
very professional and responsible in the past.
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BANNER
FIREWORKS
DISPLA Y CO.
ROUTE 1 BOX 183
ZIMMERMAN, MINNESOTA 55398
(612) 389-4060
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THIS SHOW INCWDES INSURANCE AND ALL lERSONNEL TO SET UP AND SHOOT THE SHOW.
TOTAL PACKAGE PRICE: $),250.00
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ST. LOUIS PARK, MINN.
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February 25, 1987
ST. LOUIS PARK, MINNESOTA 55426
SPECIAL FIREWORKS DISPLAY PROGRAM FOR CITY OF CHANHASSEN
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15" White Star Shell
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Gold Flitter Fancy Star Shell
Green & Magnesium Fancy Star Shell
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Yellow & White Flitter Fancy Star Shell
12 shot Finale Boxes (24 Shells)
12 Shet Finale Boxes (24 Shells)
The following will be added if the display
is $3,500.00.
Whistle & Thunder Shells
Stickless & Report Shells w/Silver Splatter
Willow & Report Shells w/Silver Splatter
Color Changing Spider Web to Red Shell
Color Changing Blue to Gold Flitter Shell
Color Changing Green to Gold Flitter Shell
Color Changing Blue to Silver Shell
Whistle & Color Shell w/Silver Tails
Three Break Shells
Four Break Shells
Artillery & Heavy Report Shell
Asst. Import Shells
Stickless Rocket & Color Shell
Strobe Shell
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1 each 12" Serpent & Color Shell
1 each 12" Willow & Report w/Silver Splatter Shell
1 each 12" Fish & Whistle Shell
1 each 12" Battle in Clouds Shell (Heavy reports & 1 extra
heavy) _, wISH ver Splatter
1 each 12" Hammer Shell (Drawout)
1 each 12" Crossett Shell
1 each 12" Hwmner Shell
2 each 12" Asst. Import Shells
1 each 18" Comet Shells
3 each 18" Asst. Import Shells
$3,500.00
This display includes services of our profssional pyrotechnicians
insurance, and cleaning up after the display.
ARROWHEAD FIREWORKS CO,. INe.
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CITY OF
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690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
MEMORANDUM
TO:
Park and Recreation Commission
FROM:
Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation coordinato~
February 26, 1987
1987 Easter Egg Hunt
DATE:
SUBJ:
The Chanhassen Park and Recreation Department sponsors an Easter
Egg Hunt each year on the Saturday before Easter. The Easter Egg
Hunts in the past have included making Easter Baskets, a coloring
contest, a kite flying contest, and hunting for hidden Easter
candy.
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This year this event will see a few changes. I will be deleting
the kite flying contest altogether as it has not attracted the
participants as I had hoped. The kite contest was originally
intended for the kids who were too old to hunt for Easter candy.
I will be looking for an activity to replace this one and am open
to any suggestions that you may have.
The Easter Egg Hunt will be held on Saturday morning, April 18,
from 10:00 until noon. Please keep this date open as I will be
needing your help to run this event.
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CITY OF
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690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
MEMORANDUM
TO:
Park and Recreation Commission
FROM:
Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation coordinato~
February 26, 1987
DATE:
SUBJ:
Update on City Council Action Regarding Park Items
Lake Ann Park Entrance Fees
The City Council acted to establish to establish the 1987 Lake
Ann Park entrance fee schedule the same as the 1986 season, as
recommended by the Commission.
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Community Center Task Force
Jim Mady was appointed as recommended to serve on the Community
Center Task Force. This 10 member committee is tentatively sche-
duled to hold their first meeting on Tuesday, March 24.
4th of July Band Contract
The Stingrays will be performing at the second Chanhassen Fourth
of July Street dance, as the Council authorized execution of the
band contract as recommended.
Reestablishing Parking Areas at Greenwood Shores and Carver Beach
Staff will be looking at design elements at both park sites to
make this recommendation easier to accept by both the City Coun-
cil and the residents near these parks. I will bring these
recommendations to you for your review before forwarding them to
the City Council.
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CITY OF
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690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
MEMORANDUM
TO:
Park and Recreation Commission
FROM:
Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinator ,,\Sr
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February 26, 1987
DATE:
SUBJ:
Fox Hollow Drive Extension and North Lotus Lake Park
In late fall 1986, citizens of the Fox Hollow subdivision peti-
tioned to delete the connection of their neighborhood to Pleasant
View Road. The City Council's initial reaction was a positive .
one.
North Lotus Lake Park's access was also proposed via the road to
be deleted. Staff reviewed alternatives and requested the Coun-
cil to table final action until all alternatives could be
explored. We believe a tentative agreement has been reached
with the neighborhood, Bloomberg Companies (developer to the
north of the park), and City Council. This alternative would
involve moving the tennis court to the north, constructing the
parking area to the south, and constructing a driveway to pro-
vide a secondary access to the neighborhood. This tentative
agreement was subject to refinement by staff and review by the
Park and Recreation Commission for their input and thoughts.
Although the Commission may be disturbed with the proposed change
in plans, the City Council did need to find some alternative,
i.e. after review by the City Engineer it was demonstrated that
significant non-neighborhood traffic would occur within the Fox
Hollow development if the street was constructed as originally
proposed.
Attached please find the revised park plan which shows the
changes noted above. Mark Koegler will attend Tuesday's meeting
to present these changes.
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'ro: Park and Recreation Ccmmission and Staff
FROM: Mark Koegler~
DATE: February 25, 1987
SUPJECl': Trail Discussion
At the March Park and Recreation Commission meeting, we have scheduled an
initial discussion on the trail component of the park element of the 1980 .
Canprehensive Plan Update. The discussion will focus on the following issues:
1. Trail types including advantages and disadvantages
2. Acquisition methods
3. Preliminary cost range
4. Existing facilities
5. Neighboring community facilities (existing and proposed)
6. Regional facilities
7. Local and regional points of interest
Of these topics, items 4 through 7 will be reviewed and discussed at the
meeting. Background infonnation on the first three topics is presented herein
to allow review prior to the meeting.
Trail Types
A key component in the assembly of any trail plan is a definition of various
trail types. Prior to the identification of trail types, the city needs to
agree on trail usage by specifically defining their function and permitted
users. Walking, roller skating, skate boarding, bicycling, horseback riding,
cross country Skiing, snowmobile riding and motorcycle riding are all activities
whim can take place within a trail system. The Park and Recreation Commission
needs to define which of these activities are appropriate for the Chanhassen
system.
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The trail plan contained wi thin the 1980 Comprehensive Plan was intended for
non-motorized uses specifically focusing on walking, cross country skiing and
bicycling. Due to recent ordinance changes, the city is considering the
provision of parks wi thin the rural area if trails are a part of rural park
services, it seems logical that the city will receive pressure for the
installation of equestrian trails.
The 1980 plan contained three classifications of bikeways (Exhibit 1). These
classifications relate primarily to the relationship between bicycles,
pedestrians and motorized vehicles. In addition to these classifications,
trails can also be categorized by locational criteria such as those along
streets, those within parks and open space areas and those that follow corridors
between private lot lines. The following is a comparison of some of the
advantages and disadvantages of each of these types of trails.
Trail Location
Advantages
o Easy monitoring
o Readily identifiable route
o Easier to finance -
construction can be
canbined wi th street
improvements
Along Streets
Within Parks
o Few vehicle conflicts
o Trails can follow natural
features such as
drainageways
o Development cost may be
grant eligible
Between Lot Lines
o Few vehicle conflicts
o Trails can follow natural
features such as
drainageways
Acquisition Methods
Disadvantages
o Motor vehicle conflicts
o Maintenance may require
specialized equipment
o Abutting property
conflicts
o Very difficult to
moni tor
o Public familiarity
requires promotional
effort
o Abutting property
conflicts
o Perceived security
problems
o Additional sidewalk
system may be needed
o Higher level of
maintenance required
Essentially, two acquisition methods exist for trail systems: dedication and
easement. The major difference between the two is simply ownership. When land
for trails is dedicated, the property is actually owned by the city. In
easement situations, the city receives only the right to use the property and
ownership remains in private hands.
Easement agreements typically contain language specifying allowed uses and
restrictions for both parties. Despite these agreements, problems can occur.
Setbacks for buildings are measured from lot lines, not from easement lines.
This can result in structures such as houses which are located very close to
trails. More frequent problems experienced by cities involve fences.
Homeowners will sometimes install fences along trail areas despite the fact that
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Class I - Total separation / dividing strip
between right-of-ways on separate
surfaces.
Class II - Total or partial separation / Ad-
jacent, but separated right-of-ways
on same surface.
Class III - Partial or no separation / shared
right-of-way on same surface.
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they may be well within easement boundaries. This situation has led to many
communities such as Eden Prairie who will acquire trails only through
dedication. Trail easements and dedications typically range from 20 to 100 feet
in width.
Preliminary Cost Range
The cost of trail construction varies depending on the type of trail, base
conditions, etc. As a general rule of thumb, an 8 foot wide bituminous trail
wi th a compacted aggregate base averages approximately $42,000 per mile. Based
on this figure, replacement of the existing tra il from Co. Rd. 17 to Lake Ann
Park would cost approximately $21,000. A trail along Co. Rd. 17 from the
Excelsior border to LYman Boulevard would cost over $100,000.
CITY 0 F
CBAHBASSEH
690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
MEMORANDUM
TO: Park and Recreation Commission
FROM: Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinator
DATE: February 26, 1987
SUBJ: Herman Field Access Plan
Attached please find the Herman Field Access Feasibility Study
as completed by Mark Koegler of VanDoren Hazard Stallings. The
study looks at three possible access points for Herman Field and
describes the costs, advantages and disadvantages to each. Mark
will attend Tuesday's meeting to discuss the study further.
The Park and Recreation Commission is asked to review the study
and to make a recommendation as to how the City should proceed
with access to the park. It is staff's recommendation to go
with the Forest Avenue alternative, which is centrally located to
the north of the park. I would also recommend that the Com-
mission request the City Council to determine if Forest Avenue
can be constructed as a public improvement project. This would
allow the City to pay for that portion of the project through
assessments and general obligation bonds, rather than using the
park fund.
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