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1985 05 07 Agenda . . . Park and Recreation Commission Agenda May 7, 1985 - 7:30 p.m. 1. 2. 3. Approval of the April 9, 1985 minutes. Final review of Hidden Valley sketch plan. Eckankar site plan review. 4. Plocher-Geske Lake Minnewashta site plan review. 5. Bloomberg property site plan review. Please call me at 937-1900 if you are unable to attend. .. f' ,.- Park and Recreation Commission Minutes April 9, 1985 . \. Members present: staff present: Members absent: Charlie' Robbins Joe Warneke Mike Lynch Mike Rosenwald Brian Foltz Don Ashworth Lori sietsema Wallace McKay Tom Schoenecker Park Dedication Discussion The Park and Recreation Commissioners met early, at staff's request, to discuss the City's policies and the structure of the Park Dedication Ordinance. The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. Don Ashworth was present to discuss the City's Park Dedication Ordinance. Ashworth began by saying that the City has the ability to obtain park land or fees to develop park land through the Park Dedication Ordinance. Although the law is unclear when it states that a city may ask for a reasonable amount of land for park and open space purposes, the general rule is 10% of the total develo- pable acres in a subdivision may be requested for dedication. To date, cities have usually gotten the undevelopable portion (wetlands, etc.). The city may request better land, but must identify that land in their comprehensive plan. . '- If a city chooses, it may require the developer to make a cash payment in lieu of park land. Thus the question of how much that cash payment should be. The law states that the city may request 10% of the undeveloped value of the land. This figure can vary a great deal, depending on who is figuring the value, where the land lies, what it is zoned, etc. The undeveloped value of a piece of property, such as Hidden Valley, can range anywhere from $5,000 to $15,000 per acre. Hidden Valley Subdivision Brian Foltz opened discussion saying that the Hidden Valley deve- loper met with the Chanhassen Estates residents to review this subdivision. At that meeting, the residents indicated a concern for the ability of the existing park (Rice Marsh Lake Park) to handle the added number of people this development would attract. They said that the parking in the park was already inadequate, the park is located at the bottom of a hill making accessability difficult, and that the park was more often wet than dry. The residents would like the Hidden Valley developer to provide another park within his development that would support a ballfield, tennis court and possibly a basketball court. . - Lori Sietsema pointed out that the Comprehensive Plan shows that Rice Marsh Lake Park should be developed into a nature study area, becoming more of a passive community park rather than a . . . neighborhood park. The park was never suited for active play fields due to the high water table. She also said that it seemed that the residents' biggest request was a tennis court. Requesting that the developer pay the park dedication fees in lieu of park land would generate enough money to start develop- ment of a nature center at Rice Marsh Lake Park and also construct a tennis court on site of the old sewage treatment center. Brian Foltz suggested that the City keep Rice Marsh Lake Park as it is for the children, and acquire a corner lot that would have a ballfield and a tennis court. Foltz also mentioned that the developer indicated that he was unsure of what to do with the northeastern section and that he may be open to the idea of donating a portion of it for park land. Charlie Robbins reiterated that the existing park is already heavily used, and that this subdivision will attract more young families as it is geared for the first time home buyer. Mike Rosenwald indicated that he liked the nature center idea and the park fees. Charlie Robbins moved to table this item until staff was able to answer the following questions: 1. Can pilings be put into the existing park, or could it be filled to alleviate the problem of it being too wet? 2. Are there areas within the development to put neighborhood park that would support a ballfield, tennis court, basketball court and parking? 3. What are the cost estimates to develop a nature center in Rice Marsh Lake Park? The motion was seconded by Brian Foltz and passed unanimously. Minutes Brian Foltz moved, seconded by Mike Rosenwald, to approve the minutes of March 5th as submitted. The motion passed unarnimously. Fire Department's Annual Softball Tournament request. Brian Foltz moved to approve the Firemen's request to use all three fields at Lake Ann Park and to waive any park entrance fees for the weekend of June 7, 8, and 9. The motion, seconded by Charlie Robbins, passed unanimously. Discussion to renew MRPA Brian Foltz made a motion that the Park and Recreation Commission not renew their MRPA membership. The motion, seconded by Mike Rosenwald, passed unanimously. 1986 LAWCON/LCMR Grant Applications . Lori sietsema asked what the Commission would recommend that the City apply for. LAWCON/LCMR Grant applications are due May 6 for 1986 projects. The Commission listed: lighting ballfield #1, multi-use park shelter, ballfield development on the newly acquired land at Lake Ann Park, access road to Lake Susan Park, and a nature center and trails at Rice Marsh Lake Park. Mike Rosenwald made a motion to recommend that the City apply for LAWCON/LCMR Grants for lighting ballfield #1, multi-use park shelter, and ballfield development on the new land. And to ask staff to research the possibility of applying for a grant to construct an access road to Lake Susan Park and a nature center at Rice Marsh Lake Park. The motion, seconded by Mike Lynch, passed unanimously. Adjournment Brian Foltz moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:05. seconded by Charlie Robbins, passed unanimously. The motion, Respectfully submitted, jl '! .' , .It'- h, ~ _ j,-,~GC11 'tJ Lori Sietsema . . . CITY OF CHAHHASSEH 2- 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900 MEMORANDUM TO: Park and Recreation Commission FROM: Lori sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinator DATE: May 3, 1985 SUBJ: Hidden Valley site plan review The Park and Recreation Commission tabled this item at the April 9th meeting to enable staff to research a number of possibilities. . The first question addressed filling Rice Marsh Lake Park to raise it above the water level. The City Engineer indicated that raising the level of the park would create additional water problems for the homeowners around the park. Also, to do this the City would have to process it's own wetland alteration permit. The Commission also asked staff to explore the possibility of obtaining another park site within the proposed development that would support a ball field, totlot, tennis court and basketball court. The City Engineer and I agree that due to the topograghy of the property and the amount of water drainage, there is not a place conducive to such use. The third item the Commission asked for was a cost estimate for the construction of a nature center or nature trail system in Rice Marsh Lake Park. I will have these figures for you at Tuesday's meeting. Due to the information above, I continue to recommend that the City accept park dedication fees in lieu of park land. In addi- tion, I am recommending that the City acquire a trail easement along the southern 25 feet of the utility easement. The City would then be in a position to develop a nature center within the 30 acres of wetlands in Rice Marsh Lake Park as indicated in the comprehensive plan. A portion of those fees could be used to construct a tennis court on the site of the old sewage treatment plant. Also, a totlot could be put up in the southwest corner of the development along the trail easement. This would take some of the pressure off of the totlot in Rice Marsh Lake Park. . CITY 0 F CHAHHASSEH 3 . 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900 MEMORANDUM TO: Park and Recreation Commission FROM: Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinator DATE: May 3, 1985 SUBJ: Eckankar site plan review Eckankar is a company which writes and publishes religious material. The proposed administrative campus development is located adjacent to the eastern boundary of Lake Ann Park. The proposed development includes a publishing building on the eastern edge of the property and an administrative building, which will lie on the western edge of the property. . According to the comprehensive plan, all land to be obtained for Lake Ann Park (to the east) has been obtained. Staff is recom- mending that the City request a payment of park dedication fees in lieu of park land. However, due to policy established with Electro-Craft development, Eckankar is asking that park fees be paid for only the acres being developed at this time - approxima- tely 20 acres. The City Manager and an Eckankar representative would then meet to agree upon an amount of acreage that park fees should be paid. Eckankar would be required to pay park fees for any future development at the time of development. . . CITY OF CHAHHASSEH ~ 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900 MEMORANDUM TO: Park and Recreation Commission FROM: Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinator DATE: May 3, 1985 SUBJ: Plocher-Geske Lake Minnewashta site plan review. In June of 1984, the Park and Recreation Commission addressed the possibility of the City purchasing Leach's Resort, as it was for sale. The Commission did not recommend purchasing the property due the the cost. A developer purchased the property and is proposing to build 18 townhouses on the six acre site. . The matter before the Park and Recreation Commission is whether to accept park dedication fees or request a dedication of park land. Points to consider: - The comprehensive plan shows the area to the west of Lake Minnewashta to be a park deficient area. - The comprehensive plan calls for park/open space to meet active recreational needs in this area. - The topograghy and the size of the Placher-Geske site limits any possible active use of land the City might acquire in this development. - Lake st. Joe is also shown in the comprehensive plan as poten- tial park/open space. While the City may wish to look at the land around Lake St. Joe to fulfill the park needs in the Minnewashta area, it should be noted that most of the area around Lake St. Joe is wetlands. - There are a number of beach lots maintained by homeowner's associations along the western side of Lake Minnewashta, thus the question of real need for additional park land arises. . ~-- 0 A 0 0 B '" 8 ~ 0 0 0 0 c.,...,~ 0 ~ ~ 0 0 ........ . ~ ~ ~ 0 0 I 0 0 ~ 0 6300 :ll :. 0 ~ .400 'tOO ,-' , ,',:, ':::,,';' ' ' I': 'g ',:'r<~~ ",'" ," .:~ , ,,,,,," ~." ~(;t'"I- . ..::: "'.'.':'::::::':O:::.J[>:::::::::::::::.:.:::=.:.:::::::{ 6600 6700 6800 6900 ?Ooe '00 1300 '400 1600 ~I' III ..J, <1'1' ell I ,I 1~00 ""oc 1e00 ~ i~~~l~~iii~i~iii ~~~~~~~~~~:~:::::::~:-::r-:---~--- 1'900 8000 8100 8200 8300 8400 8~00 " 8600 \' . .' ~ .~,,:,~-<....:-;. , .. " ~ p 1 o ~ .. " o s: ., t . ~ N " . . ;, ,) 'J I , ., I ~ .. '" I .. .. ~ r-63 ~ &\~~. . Zone 6 Residential areas within Zone 6 are effectively cut off from existing parks by major roadways on the north and south, Lake Minnewashta ,f1n the east and by the Chanhassen city limits to the west. Within . his area, 134 housing units exist and with sewer service available, it is estimated that another 575-850 units are possible in the future. At the present time, there are no existing public park facilities of any type within the area. In reviewing the needs of Zone 6, the most significant deficiency is the lack of neighborhood park facilities. Tennis courts, ball diamonds, open areas and picnic grounds are non-existent. There- fore, future acquisitions should accommodate such activities. Regarding possible locations for future park sites, two areas stand out. Leaches Resort, located north of the Red Cedar Point neigh- borhood, would be an excellent addition to the City's park system should it become available in the future. Another alternative would be to develop a site around Lake St. Joe. Irregardless of which site, is eventually acquired, it is important that the selected property contain sufficient dry, upland area to accommodate the active pursuits previously mentioned. . As future residential infill occurs. the city should be prepared through dedication and/or purchase, to acquire an appropriate parcel of land. Lake Access Chanhassen has a longstanding goal of providing a public access on each lake within the city. The community contains all or part of ten lakes which are legally public waters and, as such, should be accessible. Because it is impossible for everyone to live on a lake, the establishment of public accesses is imperative if the entire community is to enjoy the amenities associated with lakes. The following examination of each of Chanhassen's lakes discusses existing accesses as well as possible future additions. As the city acquires land and access points in the future, close coordi- nation should occur between the Lake Study Committee, Park and Recreation Commission, City Council, and local lakeshore owners to assure that adequate facilities are installed which minimize environmental intrusions and maximize the rights of all concerned. . Lake Minnewashta: Lake Minnewashta, whi~h is Chanhassen's largest lake, has one privately owned access at Leaches Resort and inade- quate public access adjacent to it. The existing public access consists of a street right-of-way and is inadequate because of a lack of parking and mdneuvering room. Because of development and land ownership in the area, the improvement of the site is not feasible in the near future. CITY OF CHAlfHASSElf 5 . 690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN. MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900 MEMORANDUM TO: Park and Recreation Commission FROM: Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinator DATE: May 3, 1985 SUBJ: Bloomberg property site plan review The City has been working to amend a LAWCON Grant that we received to construct a boat access on Lotus Lake. The amendment involves switching site locations from the north end of Lotus Lake to the south (Bloomberg property). This amendment has taken much longer than the City had originally anticipated it would. However, things currently appear to be moving along. The project file is now being sent to the National . Park Service for approval and then will be reviewed by LCMR for approval in June. At Tuesday's meeting, for your information, I will present the final park plan for the south Lotus Lake boat access site. I am anticipating much controversy over this matter from the Lotus Lake Homeowners. We will also take time to review the Bloomberg development site plan for the proposed subdivision around the park area. .