1985 12 03 Agenda
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AGENDA
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 3, 1985, 7:30 P.M.
CHANHASSEN CITY HALL, 690 COULTER DRIVE
1. Call to order.
2. Approval of October 1, 1985 Minutes.
3. Accept Resignation from Commissioner Schoenecker.
4. Lake Lucy Highlands Subdivision Review.
5. Chanhassen Estates/Hidden Valley Recreational Facility
Follow-up.
6. CCHA Indoor Hockey Rink Proposal, Update
Please call Lori at 937-1900 if you are unabl€ to attend.
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MINUTES
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
OCTOBER 1, 1985
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Members Present: Curt Robinson
Joe Warneke
Torn Schoenecker
Mike Rosenwald
Staff Present: Lori Sietsema
Members Absent:
Mike Lynch
Charlie Robbins
Wallace McKay
The meeting was called to order at 7:45 p.m. by Acting Chairman
Schoenecker.
MINUTES: The Commission reviewed the minutes of September 10,
1985. Warneke moved, seconded by Robinson, to approve the minutes
of September 10, 1985 as presented. The motion carried
unanimously.
MASTER PARK PLANS FOR LAKE ANN EXPANSION AND NORTH LOTUS LAKE PARK:
The Commission reviewed staff's recommendation and Mark Koegler's
cost estimates for development of park plans. Schoenecker made a
motion, seconded by Rosenwald to authorize staff to proceed with
Master Park Plans for North Lotus Lake Park and Lake Ann Park
expansion, as outlined in Mr. Koegler's letter dated September .
16, 1985. The motion passed unanimously.
LAKE SUSAN SOUTH, SKETCH PLAN REVIEW: Sietsema presented the
sketch plan for the development of Lake Susan South (located just
south of Lake Susan) to the east of County Road 17. She said the
developer was preparing a plan to be taken to the Planning
Commission that identified the land adjacent to the lake as
potential park/open space. Sitesema said that she had walked
this area and found it to be extremely hilly and wet in the low
lying areas.
The Lake Susan South area is a park deficient area, Sietsema
stated. Although the tract along the lake is identified as
park/open space in the Comprehensive Plan, the City may not want
the entire portion the developer is offering, due to the limited
use potential. Sietsema recommended that the City request a
trail easement along the lake as shown in the Comprehensive Plan,
and to request a parcel of land be dedicated that would be more
conducive for active use.
Sietsema also pointed out that one of the City's priorities is to
develop its bike and trail system, therefore we should request
easements for sidewalks or trails throughout this development.
Schoenecker questioned the need for sidewalks throughout the
development and asked if we could have a main trail system
that would connect the major streets in the development to the
existing streets.
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Rosenwald said that a trail through the development would be
desirable, but not on the street side of the houses.
Warneke suggested a trail easement circling the development
instead of going through it.
Schoenecker said he was not sure if the Park and Recreation
Commission wanted to start a policy requiring developers to put
in sidewalks. Warneke added that we do not want to scare develop-
ers away with too many requirements.
Schoenecker moved to recommend that the City request a trail
easement along Lake Susan, as shown in the Comprehensive Plan.
He also moved to recommend that a trail easement through the
development be requested which would link up to any future trail
system and to major highways. In addition, he recommended that
the City request that at least 20 acres of park land be dedicated
that would be accessible to major streets and accessible to the
Lake Susan trai 1 corridor, thus credit ing park dedicat ion fees.
The motion was seconded by Rosenwald and carried unanimously.
WINTER BROCHURE: Sietsema asked the Commission what they would
like to see in the Park and Recreation Winter Brochure. Items
discussed included: figure skating, 3-man basketball, cross
country ski lessons, moonlight cross-country ski event, ice
fishing contest, snow softball tournament, fishing fly tying
lessons, square dance lessons, bridge tournament, duplicate
bridge club.
LAKE ANN BLEACHERS: Sietsema said that the 1985 Capital
Improvement Budget included terraced bleachers on Field #2 at
Lake Ann Park. She said that the Commission may want to review
this project as there will be lights going in on Field #1 and
that field should have bleachers too. She said that it would be
most desirable to have the same type of bleachers on each field
and it may be cheaper to do it all at the same time.
Schoenecker suggested that bleacher plans and specs be done at
the same time as the lights so that they are positioned so as not
to shine in the spectator's eyes.
Robinson moved to recommend that the City postpone the terracing
project until 1986 and at that time add Field #1. Warneke
seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
PARK SHELTER: The Chanhassen American Legion has proposed a plan
to construct a park shelter building in the ballfield area at
Lake Ann Park. Sietsema presented the plan stating that the
Legion would borrow money from the City to cover material costs,
repaying them with money earned on their pull tab business. The
Legion estimated material costs to be $20,000 with an estimated
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pay back of $4,000 a year for 5 years.
vide all of the labor.
The Legion plans to pro-
Rosenwald asked if the Legion was expecting sole concessionaire
rights with this proposal. Sietsema said that they would not and
did not think they expected it.
Schoenecker asked what assurance would the City have that the
Legion would pay back the money as proposed. Sietsema said a
contractual agreement would be made between the two parties.
Rosenwald moved to recommend that the City Council accept the
Legion's proposal to build a park shelter building, and to
work out a loan to cover the cost of materials. The motion was
seconded by Robinson and carried unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT: Rosenwald moved to adjourn the meeting. Warneke
seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
Lori Sietsema
Park and Recreation Coordinator
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Lotus Lake Betterment Assoc.
7007 Cheyenne Trail
Chap~assen, l~ 55317
June 17, 1985
To: r~yor and members of the
Cha~~assen City Council
S'..1'tject: Pedestrian/biking path
The residential building boom has finally arrived in the
Chanaessen areal
nighway 101 is no longer a sleepy, slow paced little country
roadl In fact, rlighway 101 has become a potential disaster
for any pedestrian traffic reckless enough to travel alone
tne high~ay from Chanhassen to the intersection of Highway 7.
~e, the residents of Colonial Grove, submit that the need is
irrnediate, and the time is now, to construct a walking/biking
pathway paralleling Highway 101 from Highway 7 to Cha~~assen.
Chanhassen should accept, as a minimum, the responsibility of
th?t portion from Pleasant View Road to Chanhassen.
Let us not procrastinate any longer. Let us not wait until
an injury or death prods us into action; let us do what we
know is necessary nowl
Tnank you,
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Charles L. Hirt, President
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JUN 25 1985
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
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Lori Sietsema
City of Chanhassen
P.o. Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
November 11, 1985
Dear Lori:
As you requested this will be a formal request for the Park Boards
Operating Support of the Chanhassen Ice Arena. The arena will be located
in the Scene Shop south of th Dinner Theater and will be 2/3 the size of a
standard rink.
The period of operation of the rink will be from approximately December
10 to March 15. Hours of operation will be 3:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m.
weekdays, 8:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Saturday and 12:00 noon to 6:00 p.m.
Sundays. The plan is to offer free open skating from 3-6:00 p.m. each
weekday and for 5 hours on the weekend. Users of the rink during the
winter will be open skating, hockey and broom ball. An operating plan is
attached.
The rink will rent for $20/hour compared to $70-$90 for a full size rink.
The rink should be open 12 weeks this season. We propose to trade 20
hours per week for 12 weeks (240 hours) valued at $4,800 for the
following Park and Recreation Department support.
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Rink attendant - Approximately 500 hours.
Cleaning and surfacing - The rink each workday.
Scheduling of rink activities.
Security
Open and close facility each day.
Snow removal
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We want to stress that this years operation is going to be a start up and
learning process. In a normal year we should be operational about 500
hours during the season creating revenue of $10,000 for operations and
rent.
Once the facility is cleaned out and set up it could be used for other city
activities; sporting events such as dryland training for hockey and indoor
soccer.
Please let me know if you need any additional information.
Thanks for your cooperation.
NOV 13 1985
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
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