1986 12 02 Agenda
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AGENDA
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
TUESDAY, December 2, 1986, 7:30 p.m.
CHANHASSEN CITY HALL, 690 COULTER DRIVE
1. Call to order
2. Approve minutes of October 7, 1986.
3. Comprehensive Plan Updating Process
a. Park and Recreation Needs Survey
b. Amendments to Existing Comprehensive Plan, Rec Section
4. Review 1987 Capital Improvement Program Budget Request.
5. Park and Recreation Commission Terms of Office.
6. Lotus Lake Boat Access Operational Procedures Update.
7. Herman Field Update.
8. Chanhassen Pond Park, Eagle Scout Project Update.
9. Update on City Council Action on Park Related Items.
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Park and Recreation Commission Minutes
October 7,1986
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A regular meeting of the Park and Recreation Commission was
called to order by Acting Chairman, Wallace McKay, at 7:45 p.m.
Members present were Wallace McKay, Sue Boyt, Charlie Robbins,
and Jim Mady. Members absent were Mike Lynch, Curt Robinson, and
Mike Rosenwald. Lori Sietsema was also present.
MINUTES
Upon reviewal, Robbins moved to accept the minutes of September
2, 1986 as presented. Mady seconded the motion and it carried
unanimously.
PROPOSAL FOR CHANHASSEN COMMUNITY CENTER
Brad Johnson, Chanhassen Downtown Development Associates
(CHADDA), was present to discuss the Chanhassen Community Center
proposal. Johnson said that they had included the details of the
proposal and the center in the Commission packets. He said that
basically he was present to go over those details and to get the
input of the Park and Recreation Commission on this issue as they
would have a feeling for the community's recreational needs.
Johnson said that this type of project does cost money and the
taxpayers would, in all likelihood, end up paying for it. He
said that we have to perceive over time whether the community
feels there is a real need for this or not.
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Johnson explained that CHADDA was asked by the City to develop a
plan for downtown and go through the process of implementing it.
He said that currently they are in the implementation process.
The primary purpose of the downtown concept was brought about
because of the lack of community and there is no commercial base
in the community. Therefore, the residents have to go outside of
the City to shop and dollars spent do not stay within this com-
munity. He said that the tax base in Chanhassen has suffered
somewhat due to the lack of any downtown area. He went on to
explain the existing plan.
Johnson said that it was felt that a community center would draw
people from other areas of the City to the retail area. The
existing ice arena and the bowling center initiated this idea.
The key element was to try to create a community central to the
City that will last a long time and create development around it.
Rich Thomasgard, CHADDA, was present to discuss the details of
the center. He began by describing the proposed facilities in
the center. Half of the structure exists where the main ice
arena would be, the other half would be added on, bringing the .
total to 28,000 square feet. This arena would be used for youth
hockey, high school hockey, adult hockey leagues, open and figure
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skating. The other ice arena, which currently exists, would be
upgraded to seat about 100 people and could be used in the off-
season for other activities and events. The community center
building would be about 30,000 square feet and would include a
gym, swimming pool, 4-6 raquetball courts, weight room, exercise
room, locker space, community rooms and meeting rooms. The far-
mers market is 66,000 square feet and could be used for parking
in the off season.
Thomasgard said that parking was going to be needed in this area
to accommodate the center facilities and the retail. He said that
it was estimated that about 315 spaces would be needed to serve
the community center facilities at peak usage times. Most of the
parking would be surface parking. He said that the parking ramp
would be used to accommodate the Dinner Theatre patrons and should
not be included in this proposal.
Thomasgard proceeded to go through the costs as outlined in the
commission packets. The main ice arena total cost would corne to
approximately $1,000,000, the small arena approximately $213,000,
the community center approximately $1,100,000, the farmers market
approximately $145,000, and the surface parking approximately
$325,000. This would bring the total cost to $2,700,000.
Thomasgard explained that what was being proposed for financing
was general obligation bonds. The City has debt capacity of
$2,700,000 based on the City's assessed valuation and the
current outstanding general obligation debt. This capacity is
estimated to increase by $200,000 per year for the next few
years. It is also a possibility that one or more of the facili-
ties could be financed without using the general obligation debt.
It would be financed using the City's bonding powers and relying
on the facility being self-supporting. The large arena would be
a candidate for this.
Johnson estimated that it would cost approximately $100-200 per
household in additional taxes. This would depend on the type of
home.
Mady said that one of the concerns that he had was the location.
He said that you cannot really get back there except to drive.
He said that being able to get there on foot or by bike would be
important. Johnson said that this is an opportunity to enhance
the retail area where there is existing structures that can be
converted into community facilities.
Boyt said that this was something that she would support. She
said that she has heard a number of parents who are unhappy about
driving their children to other communities for programs. She
said that it would be nice to have a variety of programs offered
in Chanhassen.
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McKay said that we should not forget that people will drive 10
miles east before they will drive one mile west. He said that it
would be a mistake not to cultivate the area to the west.
Sietsema said that no action was required by the Commission, but
that it would be helpful for the City Council to hear any com-
ments or personal feelings that the Commission may have on this
item. She said that the Council will have to have a fairly
strong feeling that this is a community need before asking anyone
to serve on a committee that may require 100 volunteer hours.
Boyt said that the Commission does not really know how the com-
munity feels and that a survey should be done to determine such.
Robbins said that he personally endorsed this proposal and was
aware of all of the work ahead before it will become a reality.
Boyt said that she personally endorsed the proposal as well and
felt that it was needed in Chanhassen.
Mady said he was in support of the proposal as well.
No motion was made.
Lotus Lake Boat Access Operational Procedures
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Sietsema said that the Park and Recreation Commission reviewed
and tabled action on this item at the August 5th meeting. Upon
reviewal, the Commission felt that a number of points needed
further research before a recommendation could be forwarded to
the City Council.
Sietsema said she researched the following points and received
the following information:
1. The legality of restricting car/trailer parking on the
streets adjacent to the boat access and park.
Roger Knutson, City Attorney, has stated that the City
Council has the authority to impose parking restriction in
this area.
2. The legality of requiring access users to park in the pro-
vided parking lot or limiting the number of boats entering
the lake.
Mr. Knutson states that this would violate the grant
agreement the City has entered into with DEED upon receiving
LAWCON funds for the development of the boat access. Cindy .
Wheeler, DEED, states that this requirement would be con-
sidered discriminatory which would violate state law.
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Gretchen Blank, DEED, states that state law does not allow
the restriction of lake access to the non-riparian boat
owners.
3. The legality of placing a horsepower restriction on the lake
with the exception of boats with a city permit allowing
larger motors.
Mr. Knutson states that horsepower restrictions placed on the
lake and exceptions to such, must be applicable to all lake
users and are subject to DNR approval.
Kim Elverum, DNR Boat and Water Coordinator, states that a
restriction with permit exceptions would not be acceptable
for the following reasons:
- There is no evidence to show that the existing water sur-
face restrictions on Lotus Lake, via a 1983 City ordinance,
to be insufficient.
- The restriction as described would be defacto discrimina-
tion against non-riparian lake users.
- Requiring a permit to use the lake may be in violation of
M.S. S36l.3, Subd. 13, which says "No political sub-
divisions of this state shall require licensing of
watercraft covered by sections 361.01 to 361.28."
- Public accesses have not proven to create boating safety
problems on the lake.
Gretchen Blank has pointed out that if there is a defendable
reason to limit the lake to 25 horsepower, it would be dif-
ficult to justify allowing higher horsepower by special per-
mit.
Jack Melby stated that there is an access on Lake Minnewashta
that does not allow large boats/motors to be launched. He asked
if this was legal. Sietsema said that Lake Minnewashta is not a
restricted lake and that there is an access on the lake for the
larger boats to gain access to the lake. She said that the
access in question only allows smaller boats because of the small
size of the access road, the launch and the shallow water.
Melby stated that this must be something new since the Lotus Lake
Boat Access issue began. Sietsema said that it was not new and
that she had found correspondence from Russ Larson to the Lotus
Lake Homeowners Association dated 1978 that said that the DNR
would not allow restrictions placed on the access that would not
apply to the lake homeowners. She said that the only difference
was that in March of 1986 it became a state law.
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Mady said that although the agencies came out very strong against
the restrictions, their reasons did not address the environmental
issues that the Commission had expressed concern about. Sietsema
that the Commission did not voice those concerns until the
September meeting. She said that the letter to Mr. Elverum was
sent following the August meeting with those minutes.
Boyt said that she felt the agencies viewed the restriction as a
way for the lake homeowners to protect their lake from non-
riparian lake users. She said that the Commission is not con-
cerned with keeping people off of the lake, but are concerned with
keeping up the quality of the lake.
Mady said that the lake system is not deep enough to handle a
high number of large boats speeding around the lake. He said
that he did not feel that the DNR and DEED understood the fragi-
lity of the lake. Sietsema said that these agencies are aware of
of the lake features, but are unable to restrict some and not
others.
Melby asked about speed limits on the lake, safety should be a
factor. Sietsema said that there are speed limits on Lotus Lake.
She said that there is a "slow no wake" limit along the shores
and 40 mph limit in the middle. Melby said that it was not
enforced.
McKay said that perhaps the ordinance should be changed to limit
the horsepower on the lake. Melby said that that may be tough to
get through, but a speed limit should definitely be considered.
Mady moved to ask the homeowners associations on Lotus Lake to
make recommendations to the Park and Recreation Commission con-
cerning the speed limit/horse power for Lotus Lake that would be
equally applicable to all Lotus Lake users. Boyt seconded the
motion which carried unanimously.
Sietsema said that motor restrictions would be a different issue
than operational procedures. She suggested that the Commission
make a recommendation regarding the operational procedures so as
not to confuse the two issues.
Mady moved to recommend that the City comply with the standards
set by DEED as they are the adminstrators of the grants which we
received for the development of the access, as follows:
- To keep the access open until the parking area is filled,
at which time the access would be ~losed to prevent parking
problems.
- To keep 12 car/trailer parking spaces free for access
users.
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- To set park hours from 6:00 a.m. until 10:00 p.m., con-
sistent with other parks.
- To keep any lake restrictions equal for all Lotus Lake
users.
- To employ a park attendant to enforce park rules and regu-
late the parking lot.
- To restrict car/trailer parking along the streets adjacent
to the park.
- To apply park rules that would be consistent with other
City parks as outlined in the City Park Ordinance.
The motion was seconded by Robbins and carried unanimously.
Fence Request for Meadow Green Park
Sietsema said that the Commission had reviewed Lydia Porter's
request for a fence in Meadow Green Park in August. She said
that the Commission had tabled action on the item to gather input
from the neighborhood associations. The Chaparral Homeowner's
Association responded by saying they were not in favor of a fence
at Meadow Green Park.
Mrs. Porter was present and said that this was a very real
problem for her and her neighbors. She said that park users
were parking along the street and in her driveway and walking
across her lawn to get to the park. She said that often they are
loud and abusive, leave trash and have little respect for her
property or the park property. She said that they have put up
signs stating that it is private property and it has not deterred
them.
Boyt asked if it would work to move the backstop to the other
corner. Mady said that the two fields share the outfield and to
move one field would create a hazard.
Mr. Porter said that the backstop was visible from Pontiac Circle
and a physical barrier would deter park users from using these
yards as an access. He said that he had talked to Public Safety
Director, Jim Castleberry, who said he would answer calls but
would prefer a permanent solution to the problem.
Robbins asked what type of fence Mr. Porter would deem
appropriate. Mr. Porter suggested a 3 foot high chain link fence
that would run 150 feet from the north corner of the property.
He said that this would still give homeowners in the area access
to the park by walking around the fence, but would stop the
people from walking through from the street area.
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McKay said that a short length of fence would only move the
problem further down the street. Mr. Porter said that the
backstop is not visible from anyhwere else along the street.
Mady said that a 3 foot fence would not be high enough and that
this would probably be moving the problem because people already
know that the backstop is there. He said that he was not in
favor of fencing off parks to restrict access. He said that he
felt there were other alternatives to solving the problem than
putting up a fence. He suggested writing letters to softball
teams to inform them that this is not a park access and no
parking signs along the street.
Robbins said that a fence would not solve the problem. He said
that people will just keep walking around it.
Boyt asked if the Porter's could put up their own fence. Mrs.
Porter said that the homeowners association would not allow it.
Sietsema said that she had been unaware of the problem until the
softball season was over. She said that she would be able to
inform the softball players at the beginning of the season that
this is not a park access and using it as such would not be .
tolerated. She said that in the past, educating the players at
the beginning of the season has worked very well. She said that
she schedules softball practices on those fields. If a problem
is reported she will be able to check who was scheduled and take
care of it immediately the following day. She suggested that
this perhaps would take care of the brunt of the problem.
Robbins moved to table the item until the next meeting, pending
further information. The motion died for lack of a second.
Sietsema suggested recommending denial and having staff educate
the softball players. She said if the problem persists next
spring once the park is busy, the Porter's could bring back their
request at that time.
Mady moved to recommend the request for a fence in Meadow Green
Park be denied, and to direct staff to inform the softball
players that this is not a park entrance and using it as such
will not be tolerated. Boyt seconded the motion and it carried
unanimously.
Mrs. Porter felt that this was reasonable and stated that if the
problem continued next year she would indeed be back.
Orientation to the Comprehensive Plan Updating Process
Mark Koegler was present to discuss the Comprehensive Plan
Recreation Section updating process. He began by giving a brief
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background of the original Comprehensive Plan stating that he was
involved in the preparation of the original plan as he was the
City Planner from 1978 through 1981. The Comprehensive Plan was
prepared as required by the Metropolitan Council, taking about
three years to compile.
He said that City has been required to make certain modifications
to the plan as the City recently entered into an agreement with
the Metropolitan Waste Condition and the Metropolitan Council
regarding the Lake Ann sewer issue. This agreement mandates that
certain sections of the Plan be changed. Although the Recreation
Section is not one of those, the City decided to look at the
whole thing.
He said that the purpose of meeting with the Park and Recreation
Commission this evening is to give an orientation of the park
element, the process we will be following and getting input
from the Commission as to the direction we should be taking.
He said that the original plan was completed in 1980 and does not
include the changes and variations that have taken place in parks
since. Boyt asked why the original plan was not followed, why
the Commission did not ask for what was in the plan and if they
did, why did the City Council not act on it. Koegler said that
the Recreation Section of the plan was completed by the Park and
Recreation Commission, not by the Councilor Planning Commission.
He said that a plan such as this becomes the charge of the people
in the implementing position, such as the Park and Recreation
Commission and ultimately the City Council. He said that a large
amount of the plan has been followed, but not entirely. He
pointed out that he has never seen a City that ever has been able
to follow their plan completely.
Koegler said that the updated plan should reflect changes in the
socio-economic section, specifically the population projections
in the 1980 plan have been downgraded in the update. The
Metropolitan Council has dropped its population estimates for
this City. However, City does not agree with their projections
and is taking a two posture approach in the Comprehensive Plan.
The Metropolitan Council policies do allow for changes in their
own projections. What this means is that we will have two sets
of population numbers.
Koegler suggested that we focus on each park parcel with a brief
reference map that will discuss the facilities in each park
today. In the last five years there have been many changes,
including lake access. This type of updating is a very simple
process.
He indicated that we would be taking a look at development and
where population changes have taken place in the last five years,
and what the growth impacts have been, section by section.
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Koegler said that the plan recommendations will come out of all
of this, focusing on the changes mentioned and how the city
wishes to meet those changes. Ultimately the Commission will
take more of a nuts and bolts look at the funding that will be
available and prioritize the improvements that need to be made,
which will be translated into the Capital Improvement Program.
There are specific issues that input is needed from the
Commission, in addition to the general framework of the plan
itself. Policies and goals have probably changed since the ori-
ginal plan was done. One of these issues is the trail issue.
The previous plan treated trails rather lightly. The Commission
has received a trail request from the West Minnewashta area which
has brought this issue to the forefront. It was determined that
taking a detailed look at trail needs in the community would be a
logical item to be included in the Comprehensive Plan update.
Koegler said there are a number of factors to be considered when
looking at trails and where they should go. Schools, neighborhoods,
populations are all factors to be considered. Also, what level
of use will the facilities get. The cost aspect is an important
factor to consider as well. Not only the initial construction
costs, but the long term maintainance costs as well. How can .
these things potentially be funded and what are the appropriate
levels in terms of funding to keep the system running once it is
in place. Where trails are to be located can be a big issue.
Should they go along the property lines in the rear of the lots
or should they be be in the front adjacent to the right of way.
Once these decisions are made comes the implementation. What
priorities would you place on certain trail segments, how will
you come up with that list of priorities and what criteria will
you review. And finally putting the top priority items into the
Capital Improvement Program.
Koegler said that, as mentioned earlier, a survey would be an
excellent means by which to gain insight from the community. He
said that there are a number of ways to process a survey and
suggested an intern from the College of St. Thomas in the MBA
department.
He said he was open to any questions, comments or input and said
that tonight he simply wanted to set the stage for the process.
Boyt said that there was to be a certain amount of commercial
development in the City and asked if the City could request that
a certain amount of these developments be set aside for green
space. She also said that because Chanhassen is developing so
rapidly, she would be in favor of asking for park space even if
it were only small parcels. She said that if we do not ask for .
it now we will not get it.
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Koegler said that a developer wants to know up front what will be
expected of him in his development. Typically they will refer to
the city's Comprehensive Plan to see if they have interest in
park land in the area. This puts the pressure on the Commission
to get a plan in place that you feel will meet the needs. As a
responsible community, it is fair to the developer to let him know
up front what the park expectations are. The plan also gives us
a legal edge should it come down to that.
Boyt said that it has been a policy not to ask for park land in
rural areas, and due to the changes taking place in Chanhassen,
she would not want to continue such a policy. Koegler said that
this would indeed need to be addressed by the updated plan due to
the agreement with Metropolitan Council that developments outside
the Urban Service Area will have a 2t minimum lot size.
Boyt said that the people in Eagan did a survey of park needs and
found that people want small parks near their homes. She said
that she feels a survey of this type would help to identify what
should go in this plan.
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McKay said that he would like to see more attention given to cri-
teria and "rules of the road". He was concerned about con-
sistency in park development. He said he did not like to deal
with the developments individually, but would like to treat them
all equal. He said he would like to see the criteria by which we
determine where the trails should be as well as types of trails.
Also, he would like to know what other governmental units are doing.
For example, when the highway department upgrades a road, do they
do anything about bike trails?
Koegler said that it is appropriate to define the different
levels of service for different parks.
West Village Heights Site Plan Review
Sietsema said that this request was to rezone the area north of
West 78th Street, west of Kerber Drive and east of Powers Blvd.
She said that it was being brought to the Park and Recreation
Commission for their review regarding park land. Sietsema said
that City Center Park was located across the street to the west
and that Chanhassen Pond Park was to the northwest. Therefore,
it was not a park deficient area.
Mady moved to recommend that an off-street trail easement along
West 78th Street to serve as a continuation of the Lake Ann Bike
Trail. The motion died for lack of a second.
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Sietsema said that Kerber had been widened so that the
along the street. Boyt said that she did not like
the street and wanted something else.
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Sietsema said that if an off-street trail was being sought along
Kerber, it would seem logical to put it on the east side of
Kerber along the School and City property. She said that
pedestrians coming through the trails in Chan Vista will come
right through the School property and it would not seem right to
cross the street above the School property.
Mady moved to recommend that the City request an off-street bike
trail, shown as a Class 1 Bike Trail in the Recreation Section of
the Comprehensive Plan, along the north side West 78th Street.
The Commission feels this to be an important link to the Lake Ann
Bike Trail. Mady recommended in his motion that this trail ease-
ment should be in addition to the required green space in the
development and that no reduction in park dedication fees be
allowed. The motion was seconded by Robbins and carried unani-
mously.
Lake Park Estates Site Plan Review
Sietsema said that the proposed development was located on the
southwest side of Lake Riley. The proposal involves the sub-
division of 134 acres into 42 single family lots with the average
lot size 21 acres. She said that the development included a 1.1
acre beachlot, a 2 acre private park and is located outside the
Urban Service Area. For these reasons Sietsema recommended that
park dedication fees be accepted in lieu of park land.
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Boyt said that she did not feel that the private park area shown
would meet the park needs in this area. Mady said that park
needs would be minimized due to the large lot sizes. Boyt said
that there will be developments like this and we should acquire
parkland now before there is no land to acquire. McKay said that
he did not like to promote private parks as they tend to create
hard feelings when people outside the area want to use them.
McKay asked if there was any public access on Lake Riley.
Sietsema said that the City of Chanhassen does not, but there is
a public access in Eden Prairie.
Boyt said that she would like to ask for 10 acres of park land.
Sietsema said that this development would have the potential to
have a population of about 140 people. She said that 10 acres
for 140 people seemed like a lot to ask. Sietsema pointed out
that the Comprehensive Plan has set a park standard for neigh-
borhood parks of 5 acres per 1000 people.
Boyt countered that this would not be a park just for this develop-
ment, but would serve neighboring developments as well.
Boyt moved to recommend that the City request a mlnlmum of 10% of
the developable land for public park purposes in lieu of park
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fees, as this is a park deficient area. The Commission requested
that the amended plan be brought back before them before going to
City Council. The motion was seconded by Robbins and carried
unanimously.
Councilman Gevinq's Address to the Commission
Councilman Geving attended the Park and Recreation Commission
meeting to address the Commission on their work for the City.
Geving said that he wanted to commend the Commission on the
manner in which they carried out the Chanhassen Vista plan
review. He said that the Commission reviewed this item in detail
and the City came out in good shape because of it. He said that
this is important because the the Commission is an extension of
the City Council and the Council leans on the Commission. He
said the Council reads the Commission minutes and listens to
their recommendations.
Geving said that when the Council reviews development proposals
they work to get the most for the City of Chanhassen. He said
they did that in the Chanhassen Vista development as they traded
off very little and got a lot.
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Geving stated that he is a dedicated conservationist and is the
Commission's best supporter. He said that he hoped that the
Commission was the Council's best supporters as well, because in
the past 11 years he has been active in the City, we have added
over 150 acres of park land to this City.
What is happening to the City of Chanhassen is that property is
being eaten by lot splits and developments. He said that we have
to be constantly on guard that the City gets its piece of these
for trails, parks and open space. Our opportunities of making a
large park acquisition of 20, 40 or 60 acres, is not going to
happen any more. The largest land owner in Chanhassen, outside
of developers, is independent farmers with 40 or 80 acres. 100
acres these days is a big piece of land.
Geving said he was asking the Commission's assistance as Park and
Recreation people to work with the Council because the Council is
going to work with the Commission. He asked that the Commission
not get frustrated and not to feel that they were not being
listened to, because the Council reads the minutes and tries to
follow them.
As to the trail plan, Geving said that it was not his idea.
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In conclusion, Geving said that the Council wants to work with
the Commission and we are all in this as a team. He would like
to see more park/open space acquired in the City of Chanhassen
because it will not be there in years to come. He encouraged the
Commission to continue with the work on the trail plan and asked
them to seek out people in the community to work on the plan.
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Robbins moved to adjourn the meeting.
boyt and carried unanimously.
The motion was seconded by
Prepared by Lori Sietsema
Park and Recreation Coordinator
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MEMORANDUM
DATE:
November 25, 1986
TO:
Park and Recreation Commission
FROM:
Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinator
RE:
Park and Recreation Needs Survey
Attached please find the rough draft of the Park and Recreation
Needs Survey. The City Council recently had the opportunity to
review this rough draft when they were requested to authorize a
temporary employee to assist in the survey process.
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The City Council agreed with the concept of the survey and felt
that community input would be quite valuable in updating the
Comprehensive Plan as well as preparing future Capital Improve-
ment Programs. They were concerned, however, that a typical
method of distribution would not render the anticipated results.
The Council suggested that residents be informed of the current
park plan, where parks are located and what facilities they
offer. The Council tabled action on the this item until the
survey was in final form. I have attached the minutes of that
discussion for your review.
It wasasked if the Commission could meet with groups in the com-
munity to discuss these issues. The City has about 28 different
homeowners associations and it was suggested that they be divided
up and each Commissioner meet with 3-4 groups to hold discussions
on the park and recreation needs in their area. This will enable
the Commission to get first hand feedback from the community. At
the end of these meetings a questionaire could be distributed,
rendering a wider response.
Last summer the Park and Recreation Commissioners in the City of
Champlin did something very similar to this. They held meetings
in the neighborhood parks and asked the residents in those areas
what they wanted, liked and disliked regarding that park. Brett
Heitkamp, Champlin Park and Recreation Coordinator, indicated
that this was a very effective way to determine park needs in
neighborhoods and said they received a number of positive respon-
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It is the recommendation of this office to reduce the survey and
to set up a schedule so that each Commissioner meets with 3-4
associations. Each would then be asked to report their findings
back to the rest of the Commission and staff would tabulate the
survey results.
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This questionnaire was developed by the Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission to survey the needs and wants
of Chanhassen residents in regard to park facilities and recreation programs.
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1. Considering the park activities that the members of 1/4 mile (3 blocks)
your household most often participate in, at what point _____ 1/2 mile (6 blocks)
would a neiqhborhood park be beyond walking distance? _____ 3/4 mile (9 blocks)
1 mile (12 blocks
Over 1 mile
2. At what point would you consider a community park
beyond accessibility?
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8 miles
2 miles
5 miles
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J. Please check the following
____ Open Skating Rink
____ lighted Ball fields
_____ Hockey Rink
facilities that would be unnecessary or excessive
_____ Multi-Purpose Bldg. Restrooms
_____ Backstop _____ Play Equipment
____ Open Air Shelter Tennis Court
in a neiqhborhood park.
_____ Open, Grassy field
_____ lighted Court/Rink
_____ Improved Ballfield
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4a. Is there a city park located close enough to your home that your household would identify it as your
"neighborhood park"? _____ yes no
b. If yes, identify the park by name or location.
c. What changes could be made to this park to
better serve the needs of your household?
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5a. Would your' household use trails in Chanhassen? ----yes _____no
If so, which means of travel? Number your top three choices in order
Walk _____ Jog ____ Bicycle
Horseback Roller Skate Snowmobile
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CC-Ski
Other
b. Where would trails for most of the above activities be best located?
_____ Adjacent to streets _____ Within the boulevard along streets
_____ Along lot lines, not streets
d. Would you be willing to pay higher taxes for a city-wide trail system? _____ yes
If so, how much per year? ____ $50-100 ____$100-150 $150-200 $200-250
no
Over $250
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6. How often would your household use each of the following
facilities if they were located in Chanhassen?
Please rank accordingly:
1 = never
2 = 1-5 times a year
3 = once a month
0\ = once a week
5 = daily
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Adult Softball Fields
Youth Baseball Fields
Adult Baseball fields
Tennis Courts
football fields
Soccer fields
Open Ice SkatinQ Rink
Outdoor Hockey Rink
Indoor Ice Rink
PlaYQround Equipment
Indoor Volleyball
Sand Court Volleyball
Nature Study
Slidinq Hill
Grassy, Open Space
Picnic Area
Swimminq Beach
Pedestrian Trails
Snowmobile Trails
Cross Ctry Ski Trail
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8. If you regularly drive outside of Chanhassen for recreational purposes, (more than 6 times per year), Whe
activities do you seek? Which programs would you participate in if they were offered in Chanhassen?
Participate Outside
City Now
Would Participate
if Offered Here
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Picnicking
Ice Skating
Roller Skating
Swimming
Cross Country Skiing
Bicycle Trails
Youth Karate
Adult Karate
Childrens Dance
Adult Aerobics
Youth Gymnastics
Adult Basketball
Youth Basketball
Tennis (league or lessons)
Hens Softball
Womens Softball
Co-Rec Softball
Adult Touch Football
Youth Soccer
Adult Soccer
Youth Hockey
Adult Hockey
Adult Volley
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9a. Do you think the City of Chanhassen should develop an indoor recreational community center?
_ yes no
b. If so, how much of a tax increase would you be willing to assume to build such a facility?
$50-100 $100-150 $150-200 $200-250 $250-300 Over $300
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10. Where should the emphasis of improvements to the City park system be placed? Rank your choices with 1
having the most emphasis.
----- Organized recreation programs (possibly include more activities, age groups, participants)
_____ Acquiring additional park land
----- Physical improvements in parks to enable or enhance specific activities (ballfields, picnic areas)
---- Improvement and/or enlargement of trails system
----- Grooming, maintenance, and landscaping of parks
_____ Park supervision and police surveillance
Other
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11. Please indicate the catagories which represent the ages of the
members of your household. Put an (M) in the appropriate space
each male and an (F) for each female.
0-5
6 - 11
12 - 17
18 - 29
30 - 44
45 - 60
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12a. Because recreation needs may vary from neighborhood to neighborhood,
it is necessary to know what area of the City you live in. Please
fill in your street address excluding the last two numbers.
(Example: 6XX Coulter Drive)
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Mayor Hamilton moved, Councilman Geving seconded to table this item until such
time as the HRA has had time to review their budget and report back on what
their financial schedule is. All voted in favor of tabling the item and
motion carr ied.
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APPROVAL OF TEMPORARY EMPLOYMENT TO PROCESS PARK AND RECREATION NEEDS
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Mayor Hamilton: I don't disagree with the theory and concept of doing this
but I'm not sure what it is going to tell us basa:1 on the form it is in now.
Lori Sietsema: The form is a rough draft. The Commission hasn't seen it.
Mayor Harnilton: One thing, there isn't any explanation what the current park
plan concept is or has been for the past 15-20 years. Along with this, if we
are asking people to comment on parks, you are probably going to be asking a
lot of people who are fairly new residents and they don't know where the parks
are in all cases. It seems 1 ike you ought to have an area map show ing where
the parks are, each one delineated so everybody knows how many parks we
already have.
Councilwoman 'VVatson: And what facilities we have at those parks. I have
found in the last few days that people don't know, they haven't been to the
parks. Maybe it is 1/2 mile or 1/4 mile away from their home, they don't
really know what is there.
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Don Ashworth: Are you saying that the proposed park or are you saying then
what is available or about what is planned?
Councilwoman Watson: If there is active play area there. If there is
playground equipment for small children at this park. I don't think these
people even know for instance from Chaparral, what is over at Meadowgreen
Park. They haven't been there. They don't know if there is playground
equipment for a 5 year old or baseball or softball or even what is available
to them at that park. They honestly don't know.
Mayor Hamilton: The difficulty in doing something like this is our concept
has been to have neighborhood parks where we can put them into certain large
neighborhood area and to have one city park which Lake Ann Park serves the
entire city for the needs and services that that has to offer. Somebody that
is new to the community isn't going to know that and they may think that their
area is park deficient because they have a 3 or 4 year old that doesn't have a
park right next door to their house. In fact it seems to me that if you have
2, 3, 4, 5, 6 up to what age, your yard serves as a park for those kids. That
is where you play is in your own yard until you are old enough to get to the
school playground or to go unsupervised to another location away from ho~e so
I guess that theory and philosophy can be expressed to the people who are
going to be looking at this and I did feel that some of the things were kirrl
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of negative or at least they seemed to be that way to me. I guess also would
people know what a neighborhood park is. Are people going to understand what
a neighborhood park means? I don't know that. I have no idea if people will
know what a neighborhood park is. If people haven't been involved in the .
community, I would suspect probably every person who reads this is going to
say, a neighborhood park? Each one is going to have their own idea of what a
neighborhood park ought to be or maybe actually is. Community park also,
we're talking about neighborhood park, community park without really knowing
what each one is. At community park you should spell it out that there is
swimming, tennis, softball, soccor, baseball, all these things built that is
what we have at a community park. It seems like a rather long form. I guess
my experience has been when you sem out a questionnaire out like this if you
get 1% of them back you will be really lucky and I'm not sure that 1% is going
to tell us anything.
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Don Ashworth: '!his is what I had discussed with Lori. r:ale may remember this
very well. The questionnaire sent out regarding Senior Citizens am it carne
back and it was just totally negative. It showed that Chanhassen has
absolutely no need for senior citizen housing of any kim am those involved
in city government you know very well that there is a need here but the very
small percentage that responded arid I suggested to Lori potentially if the
Commission wants to see this go into newspapers or send out, we should maybe
supplement that or maybe even just have the total survey be done as a
telephone survey. If you remember that is what we did with the marketing
study regarding the grocery store facilities, regional facilities within the
comnunity.
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Councilwoman Watson: '!hen explanations could be made at the same time.
Don Ashworth: The responses were far more accurate.
Mayor Hamilton: I guess one question on here that kind of bothered me was
9(a) am (b) asking how much tax burden a resident would be willing to accept
if an indoor recreational center were built. I think we are really asking for
trouble there. This is merely a concept stage am already we are talking
about assessing tax dollars. I realize this is just a questionnaire but often
times people read more into a questionnaire then what you are really looking
for. Suddenly they are going to say we're going to be charged the top number
$31313.1313 a year for a community center. I'm all in favor of a community
center. Don't misunderstand me. I really want to get one but I'm not
convinced that that is what we are going to do to get one charging $21313.1313-
$31313.1313 a household. I don't know that.
Lori Sietsema: I guess the night they decided a survey was what the
Commission wanted to do was the same night that Brad Johnson carne and
explained his whole deal am that was the only means by which he explained
paying for this facility and they weren't very sure that anyone was going to
want to pay for this out of their taxes either but they knew if they asked do
you think the city should develop a recreation center everybody would put yes
unless they knew they had to pay for it am if they sti 11 did, they wanted to
know how much they would be willing to pay for it. If everybody said no then
knowing that they had to pay for it, then.
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Councilman Horn: '!he problem with that is unless you present to them what it
is they are going to get with a community center, they aren't going to know
what to do. Typically the way these things are done, if you have several
public meetings where you go and explain what our community center is going to
have in it and you sell the program then you have the referendum to determine
all that but to come out here before they get any information aoout what it is
going to do for them, I don't know it is going to get the information you are
looking for. I think it is also important too when you have a questionnaire
to have it generated by people who are professional in getting the kind of
information you want from a questionnaire because if you don't know how to ask
the questions right, and I'm not saying that any of us do but there are people
who know how to word questionnaires to get the right responses, you're not
going to get the results that you are looking for.
Mayor Hamilton: The other questions I had was dealing with the trail system.
We have talked about a trail system in this community for a long time and we
have partial trails here and there. Again, to ask people aoout a trail system
if they agree, let's put a trail around every lake. Well, the realities of it
is that you can't arrl if you ask if you want it. Well, sure we want it.
Let's get it going. '!hen we'll have to turn around and say you can't have it
because there is no way we can do it. You have private property owners right
down to the water on several lakes. You're not going to go and buy that
property. They wouldn't sell it to you anyway. Again, do you want trails on
the streets or do you want trails off the street? I guess these are things
that I was having trouble with because again, I'm not opposed to it but in
reality I don't think we are asking the right questions like what Clark is
saying. They need to have some information aoout what we are looking for and
then to respond to the question. Perhaps on their answers it would be better
arrl more useful to us because on the trail system, if you ask almost anybody
in this town if you would like to have a trail system, absolutely, we would
love it. What kirrl of a trail system? On the streets, arourrl the lakes,
through the town somehow. In a lot of cases we are already saying, as you
know, we just can't make good trails 2/3 of the way around Lake Ann.
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Councilman Geving: '!hen it's a dead end. CUl~e-sac it and turn around and
cane back.
Mayor Hamilton: I guess I'm afriad we might be asking for trouble then we are
going to benefit from the questionnaire. That's not to say that it is not a
good idea. I certainly see what they are trying to accomplish but I'm not
sure they are going aoout it the right way.
Councilman Horn: Would the people in St. 'Ihomas assist in developing the
questionnaire?
Lori Sietsema: Yes. '!hat would probably take more time then 50 hours but she
indicated that there were people there that would know more aoout writing the
questions too and could probably assist us in that.
Councilman Horn: I have been very impressed with the people at St. Thomas. I
think if they have that type of service available that you would do well to
avail yourself of it. I think the other thing is, the question you ask then
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is do we want a survey before we have information on such. Maybe they could
help us with that answer too.
Councilwoman Watson: Because building trails is only the beginning. '!hey
have to be maintained and maintenance of trails is a very expensive
proposi tion. By the time you keep them mowed and cleared and the issue of the
fact that we can't possibly pOlice all of these trails. There is always going
to be the certain risk factor on the trail system that runs through that we
really have no way of policing. I think it is good idea and I think PeOple
need to be asked.
Mayor Hamilton: But they need to know what is there first. '!hey need to know
what we have.
Councilwoman Watson: Yes, because there are people in Chaparral who do not
Iknow what is at Meadowgreen Park.
Mayor Hamil ton: '!here are an awful lot of people in this town that don't know
what is at Lake Ann. They have never been there.
Councilwoman Watson: '!hey need to know whether what they think they want
isn't already availble, they just don't know that it is there or whether we
really aren't meeting the needs. '!he kinds of parks they want really don't
exist in this city or they are too far away.
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Mayor Hamil ton: Even if you asked the question do you prefer neighborhood
~- parks or community parks and there was 100% response back that they would
rather have neighborhood parks. Are we going to be able to change at this
point? Are we going to sell Lake Ann Park? I'm not willing to do that. That
has been there and is something that we have worked on to develop and continue
to grow with and added more land to it a few years ago. I don't think that is
something we want to change.
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Lori Sietsema: No, I don't think it is the Commission either so much
communi ty versus neighborhood they just wanted to know how many or how
frequent neighborhood parks should exist.
Councilman Horn: I think you have given us a trend of where we should head.
Not that we can change what we already have but you can tell us whether we
want to buy some large tracts for more central type parks or whether they want
them developed in terms of neighborhood parks.
Don Ashworth: Another possibility potentially exists, you have a number of
neighborhood associations and some areas where you don't have associations, to
call a public meeting for that area, notify everyone. Wi th the number of park
commissioners you have, you can literally divide up each of the neighborhoods
that you have and someone from that group meet with each neighborhood.
Present what the City has available. Describe what it is we are doing and ask
them what would you like to see in your neighborhood. At least that way you
get down into a SPeCific neighborhood rather then generalized question about
how far do I walk. .
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Councilwoman Watson: We will know just how interested people are by how they
respond.
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Don Ashworth: 'lbere is no way that the people in let's say Near Mountain
development even know that you have a good size park in that area. We are in
fact in the process of letting bids and improving there. A number of them
don't even realize there is a park literally in their backdoor and it might be
well to meet with those people and to show them what is on the board, what is
proposed to be put in this year because we're talking about grading it this
year. Get their input as to what else they would like to have.
Mayor Hamil ton: It seems as part of the information that we have to get out,
not only about the parks in the city but if you look at the Arboretum, that is
really a park. How many acres is that?
Al Klingelhutz: 600.
Mayor Hamilton: How many acres is the Regional Park?
Councilman Geving: 300.
Mayor Hamilton: How many acres in the Carver Park Reserve? Those are all
within a very short distance. Those are three huge parks right within this
Chanhassen District and that is all a part of the parks that people could use
and I think that people have to be aware of that too.
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Councilman Horn: I like the idea of having the Park Commissioners go to the
neighborhood.
Councilwoman Watson: I do too. It keeps the Commission more in touch with
the people.
Councilman Geving: Here is what I was thinking. I think if we are going to
do this, we've got to do it right or you are not going to get the type of
response that we are looking for. I'm talking about a nice letter signed
either by the Mayor or the Chairman of the Park and Recreation Commission
identifying what we are trying to do with this survey. Maybe on the back page
there would be a map of the City of Chanhassen showing existings parks and
what is in those parks. Showing the swings and ball diamonds and so forth and
a very good mechanism for returning these responses back to us. I don't know
how you do that but one thing was suggested here. I was thinking of the Park
Commissioner's themselves who are very well known in their own neighborhood
areas I'm sure. 'lbeir names could be listed along with their telephone
numbers in this document am enl ist the aid of the homeowners groups because
they are probably the most active groups we have in this City to get things
done. I was thinking that if St. Thomas has this capability, we ought to use
it and originally when I looked at this I thought what ever happened to the
good old volunteer spirit. That is basically what we always did with Park am
Rec and there are people around who can do these things but probably not as
prOfessionally or not as well as someone who has done this before so I don't
mind the $500.00 we are talking about spending for the survey but we've got to
do it right or you're not going to get the responses. You're just not going
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to get people to drive into City Hall and drop off this response. They won't
do it so we've got to do that part right.
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Councilman Horn: I would suggest this survey be something that they hand out
at the neighborhood meetings am do it that evening.
Councilman Geving: That's even better. A one for one basis is the only way
you are going to get a true response. A fairly good size sampling of the City
but let's do it right. Like I say with cover letter, a map showing the parks,
the concept that Tom was talking about that we have for the park, what is a
neighborhood park, what is a city park and so forth. What I would do, some of
the things that Tom mentioned, I think question no. 3 for example, please
check the following facilities that would be unnecessary or excessive in a
neighborhood park. To me that is very negative. I couldn't sell anything if
I tried to sell a statement like that. I would turn it around and say please
check the following facilities that you would like to have in the neighborhood
park and then go on to list them. picnic benches, soccor fields, etc. One of
the things I would like to see us do more of in all of our parks is just set
aside areas for nature. There is nothing wrong with having an acre of just
grass am bugs am whatever else grows in that natural grassy area or that we
could promote an area that is maybe an acre or two of just plain woods. There
is nothing wrong with saving an acre of woods so that kids can go in am fim
tree frogs and all the other creatures that might inhabit that area. We
don't do enough of that I don't think as a ci ty to preserve those areas so I
think those are the kind of questions I would put in here. Open nature areas
for example would be one of the al ternates that I would put in there. As far
as the rest of the survey is concerned, I too would agree with the comments
that were made. I would pull out these dollar figures. Item 5(c). Would you
be willing to pay higher taxes for a city-wide trail system. That is crazy.
This is not the kim of information we want at this time. That will come
later on but don't ask if they are willing to pay the $50.00 or $250.00 a year
for trails. Pull that kim of stuff out. That is extremely negative.
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Councilwoman Watson: In a referendum...
Councilman Geving: That's what I'm saying over here on 9 for example. Here
you would say do you think the City of Chanhassen should develop an indoor
recreational community center? Yes or no. Should this be a referendum issue?
It obviously should be I think and give them a chance to say yes or no and
drop the dollars. We're not interested in that. I have my own thoughts about
what should be included in some of these lists of things and I will give those
to you Lori but I think if we do this right it can be done properly and we
will get the kind of response we are looking for. This is probably a fairly
good draft am that is where we're at but I believe a letter from the Mayor
with the parks shown on a map so they can associate their own area with the
Lotus Park or close park that would be very convenient. I have no other
comments Mr. Mayor. I did want to say just this. I know you have all had a
chance to read my comments to the Park and Rec Commission. I won't say
anymore about it. I just felt it was necessary to meet with them that night
am I won't say anymore about that. I thought it went over very good am I
think we are a pretty good team right now working together.
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Councilwoman Watson: Lori mentioned that Todd has had some experience in
survey work too. He is here and available to us. I don't know what kind of
survey work he has done.
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Mayor Hamilton moved, Councilwoman Watson seconded to table this item until
the City Manager and Lori Sietsema can get together to revise some of the
questions and bring it back to the City Council. All voted in favor of
tabling the issue and motion carried.
Don Ashworth: We will summarize your comments that the Council has given and
bring it back hopefully for you at the next meeting.
COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS:
Mayor Hamilton: '!he next item was I was going to talk about Art Partridge. I
guess most of you know that he apparently is going to sue the City over the
neighbor's problem. I don't know what else we can do to accommodate him other
then, I've been up there and I talkerl to his neighbors and my goodness, it
certainly is as nice a looking yard as anybody who lives around me or anyone
else so I don't see the problem but Art is still furious and it seems like
more of a neighbor dispute then anything else.
Councilman Geving: Excuse me Mr. Mayor. Do we have an official letter or
something from Art on this? I'm not familiar with the situation.
Councilwoman Watson: Did you not receive a letter from him at one point? I
did.
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Councilman Geving: It was some time ago.
Councilwoman Watson: Yes, it was some time ago.
Mayor Hamilton: It was this summer, June or July. He didn't say anything for
a while. Don and I went up there one day and their yard wasn't a mess at all.
There wasn't anything laying around.
Councilman Geving: So what is his complaint against the City? That we're not
doing anything about it?
Councilwoman Watson: '!hat we have an Ordinance and we aren't following our
Ordinance. That we ignored the issue. That we have not responded. I had a
most unpleasant conversation in regard to this on Saturday. I asked Don to
get together for me every correspondence that has occurred since the first
time this issue came to us.
Don Ashworth: I will make that available to anyone else who would like a copy
of it.
Councilwoman Watson: I felt I needed to see this all at one place at one time
because I felt reasonably comfortable. I realize there is one letter from our
City Attorney in here that I'm sure Roger and everyone else wishes we could
take back. It is a very poorly written letter. One easily taken apart which
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FRCJt!: Mark Koegler, Ci ty Planner ~
DATE: November 24, 1986
SUBJIOCT: Comprehensive Plan Amendment - Recreation Chapter
Enclosed, please firrl copies of the proposed update for the section of the .
recreation chapter of the 1980 Comprehensive Plan outlining the existing park
system. Subsequent sections of the plan will be updated upon receipt of the
survey results.
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The active and passive recreational needs of urban popula-
tions have been receiving increasing attention in recent years.
As urban development has expanded and consumed large amounts
of open land, pressure to provide parks and open space has
intensified. This intensification has brought on a new
challenge - providing adequate living spaces for the popula-
tion while insuring that the overall living environment
remains both satisfying and stimulating. One way of
accomplishing this task is through the provision of adequate
park lands and open space areas.
As mentioned, recent years have brought on an increasing
demand for recreation. This intensified demand has been
caused primarily by overall increases in the population.
Population is not however, the only factor involved.
Increasing leisure time, greater mobility, and higher
disposable incomes have all contributed to increased rec-
reational demand. Demand factors are reviewed later in
this section.
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For planning purposes, recreational lands and open space
areas are generally combined into one category. There is
however, a significant difference between the two. Parks
are typically defined as public areas which primarily
provide active oriented recreational facilities. A sig-
nificant characteristic of park land is accessibility to
;t1s users. Open space on the other hand, can ~e defined
in more general terms. In its broadest sens~, open space
comprises any land parcel which is not used for buildings
or in other words, the counterpart of development.
Essentially, parks and open space fulfill three functions.
First, they meet positive human needs both physically and
psychologically. Historically, parks and open space have
been justified on health grounds. These spaces provide
fresh air, sunlight, and areas for physical exercise all
of which provide the psychological release which has be-
come increasingly important to today's active and often
complex lifestyles.
Very little research has been done to quantify the psycho-
logical values of park and open space areas. The physical
attributes of these spaces are more readily apparent.
Jogging tracks, active game areas, and obstacle courses
provide facilities which can be utilized to directly benefit
human health. Aside from health benefits, parks and open
space can also enhance social interaction. The location
and design of open space and recreation areas can play an
important role in bringing people together such as in the
case of a neighborhood park. On the other hand, these
spaces can become barriers separating different uses or
neighborhoods depending on existing conditions and park
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The second function of parks and open space areas is to
enhance and protect the resource base. Physical resources
such as air, water and soils are critical factors in the
provision of open space areas. Attention to these resources
in the planning stage can have many positive values and in
some cases, can alleviate future problems. By providing
open space which protects and preserves physical resources,
flood damage can be reduced, water supplies protected,
soils nourished and wildlife enhanced. The misuse of these
resources can result in devestation - soil erosion, polluted
waters, and severe flooding.
The third function of parks and open space concerns economics.
These facilities can have an impact on economic development
as indicated by tourism, development patterns, and real
estate values. This funciton, although not critically
important to Chanhassen does have some significance to
the community. Several existing and proposed recreational
facilities pose an economic impact. Most notable among
this group are the Minnesota Landscape Arboretum and the
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Both of these facilities are regional in scope. As such,
they tend to draw users from the entire Metropolitan area
which results in increased service revenues to Chanhassen
businesses. Park and Arboretum users purchase gas, food,
and other miscellaneous items all of which benefit the
business community and the City as a whole.
On a smaller scale, the provision of parks, open space areas,
trailways, and greenbelt corridors have a positive impact
on residential property values. Lots located on parks or
overlooking open space areas such as marshes frequently
appreciate at higher levels than other land located within
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The residential sur 1S area are some of
the choicest pieces 0 the City. In 1978,
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The previous narrative has been intended to portray some
of the impacts that open spaces and parks can have upon
a community. The importance of the provision of park and
open space facilities should not be underestimated in the
overall development of a community. A definite link
exists between a city's amenities i.e. parks and the
soundness of other aspects of its life. The future of
cities will be determined to a significant degree, by
their ability to instill in people a positive desire to
live in them. Creating a balanced recreati'onal sy.stem i's
one way in which a community can enhance this desire.
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Open Space Planning
- In providing recreational facilities for existing'and
future populations, first an analysis of scale must be
conducted. The end result of such an analysis should be
to determine which entity will be responsible for each
segment of the overall recreation system. To clarify
this, the Minneapolis Metropolitan Area can be used as
an example. Within the Metro area, parks can be class-
ified as being either federal, state, regional, local, or
private. Each of these types of parks provides varied
facilities which often concern only specific recreational
demands or user groups. Federal, state, and regional
parks can be grouped together since these facilities
typically provide for uses which are unavailable at
the local level. Examples include facilities for
hunting, camping, and special features such as nature
centers.
Local parks on the other hand, typically provide close
proximity facilities for active pursuits and additional
space for passive recreation. Typical activities include
tennis courts, ball diamonds, playgrounds, and open field
areas. The key ingredient for successful local parks is
quick, convenient access for user groups. Private facil-
ities comprise the third general park category and are
usually not considered heavily in a recreational-system-
wide analysis since the activities they contain may vary
extensively. Typical activities range from miniature golf
to boating rentals.
In conjunction with identifying existing recreation facilities,
an analysis and quantification of human needs and desires
should be conducted. Establishing the preferences of the
-user group will obviously permit the planning of facilities
which most directly meet their needs.
In analyzing user preferences, several factors are examined.
Most importantly, the demographic structure of a community
should be studied. The overall age structure of a population
. often determines which types of recreational activities
will be most in demand. Young growing communities for
instance, will probably require the installation of tot
lots and other play facilities for younger children. On
the other hand, in communities where the concentrations of
elderly people are greater, more passive recreational
facilities may be appropriate.
Other more specific factors are obviously included in the
overall planning for effective open space and in fact, will
be utilized in the Chanhassen Plan. In a general sense, the
comparison of existing facilities to existing and future
demand levels indicates deficiencies in a park system. This
deficit should then be corrected through the planned placement
of recreational facilities.
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Implementation
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Upon completing a recreation plan, the critical issue becomes
how to implement it. Implementation of a park plan involves
the expenditure of large sums of money which unfortunately,
most communities seldom have. Therefore, outside sources
are looked upon.
Before examining specific revenue sources, general implemen-
tation methods should be studied. Three major tools for
open space acquisition and/or control are currently available:
acquisition, regulation, and taxation. While each of these
methods are viable alternatives, each employs distinct
mechanisms which in turn result in varied amounts of control.
Acquisition
The acquisition of full or partial rights to land parcels
provides a community with the surest way of preserving
open space. Land can be acquired through condemnation,
donation, or purchase, all of which are legal means since
the acquisition of park land serves as a pUblic benefit.
Easements constitute another method through which open space
lands can be acquired. Easements differ from the fee simple
purchase of a property in that they are typically used to
acquire only partial rights to a parcel. As such, they can
be in two forms, either affirmative or negative.
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Affirmative easements are those which grant the city and
the pUblic the right to use land for specific purposes.
Negative easements on the otherhand, prohibit the use of
land by the pUblic and more importantly, specifically
restrict the uses to which an owner may put his land. Some
types of conservation easements can be considered as negative
since they limit land uses to such activities as farming,
wetlands, or scenic easements along highways. Easements
as a method of acquiring open space are an effective proced-
ure since they permit local governments to stretch budget
dollars in the provision of recreational facilities.
Regulation
A second method of acquiring open space is through regulatory
means. Through the use of zoning and subdivision ordinances,
local municipalities have control over open space areas.
Of these regulatory tools, zoning is most often utilized.
Two general types of zoning ordinances exist which are used
to provide open space. The first type, known as development
zoning includes provisions such as cluster zoning. Schemes
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such as this involve both park lands and open space areas
since cluster zoning permits the grouping of structures
thereby freeing up additional lands for park use. The
second type known as natural resource zoning, takes a some-
what opposite approach since it is used to prohibit
structures from identified areas. Typically, this control
method is used to protect marshes, floodplains, agricultural
land, and other natural resources. The City of Chanhassen
presently utilizes both of these mechanisms.
Subdivision ordinances can affect open space conservation
and can implement its preservation through design restric-
tions which regulate the layout of developments. Futhermore,
as a part of such an ordinance, a city can require the
dedication of permanent open space as a platting requirement.
In cases where a municipality does not need additional park
land, a fee in lieu of the dedication can be charged. This
fee is usually calculated to be roughly equivalent to the
value of any land parcels which are required under the ded-
ication ordinance. Land dedication requirements are justified
on the grounds that a subdivision is responsible for providing
recreational amenities to the residents who reside within it.
The City of Chanhassen currently utilizes dedication as a
means of providing open space and park areas.
Taxation
The third method of acqulrlng public open space is through
taxation. Through the use of the tax structure, various
incentives for the provision of open space can be offered.
Included among these are tax exemption, preferential
assessments, and tax deferrals.
Public open space, both parks and non-developed areas, are
usually exempt from the payment of property taxes. Exemp-
tions can be expanded to cover privately owned lands used as
public open space, with the degree of tax exemption depending
on the amount of benefit or use afforded to the public.
Preferential tax assessment as a method of providing open
space has been used primarily for agricultural land. In
operation, preferential tax assessments provide for varia-
tions in the tax associated with land values. For example,
under this method agricultural land located within a city
would be assessed at its agricultural value rather than at
its potential development value. In this case, the overall
purpose of a preferential assessment is to retain agricul-
tural land for farming purposes and thereby, preserve it
as a type of open space.
Another aid in preserving open space is the tax deferral
process. Under this system, taxes on land located within
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a planned or existing open space area are deferred as long
as the land remains in an open type land use. If the owner
of the open space parcel decides to develop the land for
non-open space uses, all deferred taxes have to be paid before
the development qains final approval. Common examples of the
use of the tax deferral process include a golf course or a
wooded tract. As urban development surrounds a public
facility such as a golf course, private owners of such
facilities are often faced with high taxes which in some
cases may threaten the continued existence of the site
as an open space area. The deferral of taxes on such a
parcel would permit the facility to continue as a recrea-
tional facility.
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Recreational Facilities
In analyzing the existing recreational facilities within a
community, it is first necessary to define a zone of in-
fluence. In its conceptual state, a zone of influence
defines a hypothetical geographic area in which people are
likely to travel to participate in recreational activities.
For the purpose of this plan, the zone of influence is
defined as the area which represents a maximum travel time
of 25-30 minutes.
The area depicted on the Zone of Influence Map should be
viewed in general terms. Within this designated .area, the
pUblic is likely to move about freely in order to partici-
pate in various types of recreational activities. The
delineation of this line does not however, imply that
participation is unlikely outside of the zone. Major
cultural and recreational activities outside of this area
will draw users from within the zone. An example of this
might be the participation by the pUblic in boating and
fishing on the St. Croix River. In this case, the St.
Croix has certain amenities which draw users from a wider
geographic area.
In looking at the Zone of Influence Map, it becomes apparent
that the demand for recreation occurs ..regardless of
political boundaries. Existing recreation areas outside
of the City of Chanhassen exert an influence on the
Chanhassen population while recreational facilities within
the City exert an influence on the population outside the
Chanhassen municipal boundaries. The migration into
Chanhassen to utilize city recreation facilities will be the
strongest in neighboring communities which have not been
active in developing park and open space lands which meet
the needs of their residents.
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Facility Inventory - Regional Facilities
As a prerequisite to analyzing specific park sites, a
classification scheme for various types of recreation
areas should be established. Initially, parks and open
space areas can be broken down into four ownership/manage-
ment categories: federal, state, regional and local.
Federal, state and local facilities outside the Chanhassen
municipal boundary are not included in the site analysis
portion of this study. The chart entitled Metropolitan
Recreation Open Space System portrays the definitions,
service area boundaries, and site requirements for various
park types.
Regional Open Space
Regional recreation open space is defined as areas to which
the public has access and which, because of their natural
environment character and development, offer recreational
opportunities that attract large numbers of people irrespec-
tive of political boundaries. The attraction of such an
area can be in its uniqueness as a facility or because of
the existence of notable natural resource features.
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In the Twin City Metropolitan Area, the regional recreation
open space system consists of five components: regional
parks, regional park reserves, regional trail corridors,
regional historic parks, and regional special use areas.
Within the City of Chanhassen, three of these five facilities
are presently in existence.
Minnewashta Regional Park
Lake Minnewashta Regional Park is located on
eas rner of Lake Minnewashta, lying southwest
junctio f State Highway 7 and 41. At the pres
this facil is in the acquisition stage alt
minor develop may take place as early
of 1979. Origina ans called for th
of 394.14 acres. Of's total, 37
by the fall of 1980.
time,
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summer
entual acquisition
res should be acquired
As indicated on the Lake
Plan, a wide range of
planned for the par ,te. Planned a 'ities include
picnicking, as' ing beach, a boat laun 'n9 facility,
camping area ature center and interpretive a, active
play spa and a nature demonstration and stud ea.
Oetai development plans will be submitted to the 'ty
fo eview and comment before they are approved by the
unty. The city review will consist primarily of an
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Lake Minnewashta Regional Park is located on the northeast corner of Lake
Minnewashta, southwest of the intersection of State Highways 7 and 41. The
facility was originally established as a park in the late 1970's and has been in
the development stage since that time. Land area in the park totals 350 acres.
The development of park facilities is being done in accordance wi th the park's
original master plan. Existing facilities include two boat accesses, one of
which is unrestricted accommodating 25 vehicles and the other which is
restricted to 10 hp motors having parking for 10 vehicles. Additionally, a
swimming beach, picnic areas, a picnic shelter and groomed cross country ski
trails are currently available for public use.
Future plans call for additional facilities including a bath house, maintenance
shop, additional picnic shelters, a nature interpretive center, expanded picnic
areas, additional parking, an open field area, a tot lot and expanded utility
improvements such as restrooms and drinking water.
Lake Minnewashta Regional Park continues to be operated and maintained by Carver
County. Funding for facilities comes from the Metropolitan Council. The
Metropolitan Council maintains a policy stating that a prime purpose of regional
parks is to provide recreational facilities which are not found in municipal
parks. Because of this, Lake Minnewashta Regional Park will not contain ball
diamonds, tennis courts, hockey rinks or other active facilities in the future.
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Metropolitan Recreation Open Space System
COMPONENT
MINH'ARK
USE
Speclal.zlOd fac./otles that serve a
concentrated or limited population
or specifiC group such as tots or
senior citizens: may be in locations
such as apartment comple"es, town-
house developments, or commerical
centers.
NEIGHBORHOOD
PARK PLAYGROUND
Area for intense recreational
ktivites such as field games,
court games, crafts, apparatus
area, skating, neighborhood
centers.
COMMUNITY
PLAYFIELD
Area for intense recreational
facilities such as athletic
fields and swimming pools;
could include neighborhood
use.
COMMUNITY
PARK
Area of natural or ornamental
qualitv for outdoor recreation
such as walking, viewing.
sitting, picnicking; could have
some field and court games.
REGIONAL PARK
Area 01 natural or ornamental
quality for nature-Oriented
outdoor recreation such as
picnicking, boating, fishing.
swimming, skiing, hiking. &
camping.
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REGIONAL PARK
RESERVE
Area of natural quality for
nature-oriented outdoor
recreation such as viewing
and studying nature, wildlife
habitat, conservation, cam-
ping. picnicking, hiking. &
fishing.
LINEAR PARK
ITrails. parkways)
Area developed for one or
more varying modes of rec-
reational travel such as
hiking. biking. snowmo-
biling, horseback riding.
crosscountry skiing. ca.
noeing. & driving.
HISTORIC
PARK
Area which preserves, main-
tains, and interprets buildings.
sites. and objects of hIstorical
and archeolog.cal significance.
SPECIAL USE
SERVICE AREA
SITE
SITE ATTRIBUTES
less than 1/4
mile
less than
1 acre
1/4 to 1/2 mile 10.25 Physiography
~dius to serve kres suited for
a population of intense develop-
4.000 to 5.000 ment.
(neighborhood)
3-5 neighborhoods 25.50 Physiography
(community" kres suited for
intense
development.
3- 5 neighborhoods 25.50 Affords natural
(community' ) acres features with
variet! physio-
graphic interest.
3-5 communities' 200.500 Complete natural
acres setting contiguous
1100 acre to water bodit!5 or
minimum) wa ler courses where
possible.
County 1000 + Diversity of unique
Multi-county acres; suf:' resources, i.e., topo-
ficient graphy. lakes. streams.
area to marshes, flora, fauna.
encompass
the resource
envisioned
for preser-
vation.
Sufficient Utilize man-made &/or
width to natural linear resources
provide such as utility
maximum corridors. rights.ol.way,
protection drainage ways, bluff
of resource Jines, vegetation pat-
a. milJ<imum terns, and roads.
use;
sufficient
length to
kCOmplish
purpose.
Sufficient
area to en-
compass
facility or
resource.
Historically signifi.
cant - represent the
broad cultural, poli-
tical, economic.
military. or social
history; associittlOd
with historical Jlgure;
architectural specimen;
major "rcheological
site. Large enough to
protect all signifi.
cant resources.
Area providing Spl!Ci/ozed or
single purpose recre"lIonal
ktivit.P.t such as goll courses,
nature centers. marinas, zoos,
conservatories, "rboretum,
aren.., gun clubs.
'Communlty in this contut is a groupIng 01 neIghborhoods. as delilll!d ilboye, and not a unit of goyernmtlnt.
Specilic
standard
applicable
to desired
use,
Appropriate to
particular special
use.
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SITE LOCATION
Pro"imity to ele-
mentary schools,
Pro"imity to second-
ary school and other
public facilities.
Pro"imity to commu.
nity faeilit ies &
where resources are
available.
Where naturill re-
source occurs -
panicularly water.
Where resource
occurs.
Where linear re-
source occurs.
link components of
recreation system.
link other community
facilities such as
schools, library. and
commercial areas,
Where resource
occurs;
where event
occurred,
Site wh~re needed
and appropriate.
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alysis of development plans to as~ure consistency wi
C1 development standards, providing that final dev
men lans are in accordance with the developed mas
p 1 an.
The prim purpose of the Lake Minnewashta onal Park
is to ful 1 the regional recreation needs the popula-
tions of the ities of Chanhassen, Chaska, d Victoria.
A mechanism h been established to solic. citizen input
from each of th e jurisdictions into t overall develop-
ment process. An been established
consisting of two resentatives fr Chanhassen, one from
Chaska, one from Vic ria, and one rom the county park
commission. The purpo mmittee will be to review
the county's developmen a make recommendations to
the Carver County Park Co is on pertaining to the plan.
It is intended that the rep entatives of each city will
serve as liaisons between e respective city councils
and the county. This co itte is scheduled to be estab-
lished when the county gins pr aration of detailed
development plans or on request the City of Chanhassen
prior to that time.
As mentioned pre ously, the Minnewasht Regional Park is
currently in t acquisition stage with .or facility
development p. jected sometime in 1984. B ore that time
however, so faci 1 i ty development wi 11 occu ,Present
all for the installation of a road ,parking
area, bo launching facility, and control gate uring the
f 1980. The opportunity also exists for e interim
the regional park by the City of Chanhasse~ ovided
tha such uses are consistent with overall plans. T
ablishment of picnic areas may be appropriate as an
terim use.
Arboretum
The Minnesota Landscape Arboretum located on the western
edge of Chanhassen, serves as a regional special use
facility. The arboretum consists of 580 acres, the majority
of which is in Chanhassen with smaller land parcels being
located in both Chaska and Victoria. Maintenance and
staffing for the arboretum is provided by the University of
Minnesota.
The major attraction of the arboretum is the facility itself.
Some 4,000 species and cultivars of ornamental and native
plants are located on the site. This display draws users
from throughout the Metropolitan Area, particularly during
the spring when materials are in bloom and again in the
fall when the Fall Festival is held. This festival has
attracted as many as 10,000 visitors. '
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In addition to the plant viewing function of the Arboretum,
the facility is also involved in activities ranging from
research to educational programs. Breeding and research
programs to improve the hardiness and landscape qualities
of plant materials, flower exhibits, nature hikes, and
horticultural classes all are typical activities.
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National Wildlife Refuge
The third facility in Chanhassen which can be considered
regional in importance is the Minnesota Valley National
Wildlife Refuge. Like the Minnewashta Regional Park, the
Wildlife Refuge is still in the acquisition stage. Eventual
plans call for the acquisition of approximately 6,600 acres
providing a linear greenbelt stretching from Fort Snelling
to the town of Carver.
The stated objectives of the wildlife refuge are:
1. To preserve a critical portion of the Minnesota River
Valley with its wildlife and natural habitat.
2. To provide an urban wildlife area for birdwatching,
photography, nature study, hunting, fishing and other
wildlife oriented activities.
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3. To provide a unique educational resource to all ages
by assisting with field studies of environmental inter-
relationships, stimulating curiosity and investigation of
living things by offering a variety of first hand outdoor
experiences.
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In order to realize identified objectives, major program
areas have been identified. Included are wildlife production
and maintenance, wildlife and weltland appreciation, environ-
mental education, research and scientific studies, fishing
and hunting, and historic preservation.
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Within Chanhassen, the wildlife refuge is scheduled to
encompass the entire southern section of the community.
At the present time, the land bounded by U.S. Highways 169
and 212 on the north and Highways 169 and 101 on the west,
and by the Chanhassen border on the east and south is part
of the land acquired for the refuge. The land lying to the
west of this site bounded by U.S. Highway 212 on the north,
the Minnesota River on the south, and the Chanhassen
municipal limit on the east and west will eventually become
part of the refuge.
Because of the size of the refuge, a substantial amount of
time will be required for the acquisition of all projected
land parcels. Due to the immense size of the project and
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consequently, the high cost, several allocation methods
will be used. In its final form, the refuge will consist
of parcels owned by the federal government, the state,
municipalities, and in some cases, by private owners through
the provision of easements. Upon comoletion, the Minnesota
"alley National Wildlife Refuge will 'contain facilities
for camping, fishing, hunting, canoeing, bicycling, snow-
mobiling, and nature study, all of which will provide a
direct recreational benefit to both Chanhassen and the
Metro population as a whole.
Facility Inventory - Chanhassen
Historically, the development pattern of cities has evolved
around a central tract of open space - the city park. Often,
these parks are one square block in area and usually serve
as a focal point for the community. Facilities include a
band shell, fountain, or sitting area; all of which promote
social interaction. An analysis of area communities
portrays this pattern. In the City of Minneapolis, Loring
Park serves this function while in Chaska, the town square
idea is portrayed by the Chaska City Park. Because of
Chanhassen's historic development pattern, the evolution
of it's park system has been somewhat different.
Chanhassen's development as a suburban community has produced
a park system which, although different in format from the
traditional central city park, has in reality developed in
somewhat the same manner. Instead of the central town square
park, Chanhassen has established a community park which serves
as the primary recreational facility. This site is supple-
mented by a series of neighborhood parks which provide
recreational opportunities within close proximity to the
residential population. These facilities combined with
other open space areas constitute the existing recreational
open space system.
The success of the park system within a community depends
on a number of factors. Certainly, sound planning, placement,
and design are primary determinants. One feature however,
stands out as a critical factor which often can make the
difference between a good park system and an excellent one.
That factor is natural diversity.
Natural features can provide favorable factors in the
establishment of viable open space areas. Such factors as
tree cover, topographic diversity, lakes, streams, vistas,
and marsh areas can add immensely to the overall success of a
park system. Fortunately, all of these exist within Chan-
hassen and these characteristics, coupled with the strong
established park tradition within the community, form the
basis for the provision of a park system in Chanhassen which
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Municipal park facilities can be considered as falling into
one of four categories: mini-parks, neighborhood park-play-
grounds, community playfields, and community parks. The
definitions and characteristics of each of these is indicated
on the chart entitled Metropolitan Recreation Open Space
System. In addition to these, other facilities may be used
for recreation which do not totally fall within these
categories.
The following facilities comprise the existing Chanhassen
Park System.
Name: Cathcart Park
Type: Neighborhood Park
Size: 3 acres
Facilities: Tennis Court
Hockey Rink
Baseball Diamond
Warming House
Basketball Court
Play Equipment
Comments: Cathcart Park is located in the extreme northwest
corner of Chanhassen. This park is unique because while it
lies totally within Chanhassen, the facility is maintained
by the City of Shorewood. The park consists of a level site
surrounded by a church on the north and residential uses on
the east, west, and south. Some vegetation exists on the
site but the majority of the facility is devoted to active
play space.
Name: Minnewashta Heiqhts Park
Type: Neighborhood Park
Size 2 acres
Facilities: Ice Skating Rink
Picnic Area
Open Space
Volleyball
Comments: Minnewashta Heights Park covers four residential
lots in the Minnewashta Heights Addition. Some tree cover
exists on the site and several depressional areas are
frequently damp, particularly in the spring.
Type:
Size: 11.3 acr
Facilities: None
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Name: Herman Field
Type: Ne ighborhoo:1 Park
Size: 11. 75
Facilities: None
Comments: Herman Field is presently undeveloped. A master plan for the park
calls for a ball field, picnic shelter, play lot, off street parking and various
areas for climbing and imaginative play, all interconnected by a walkway system.
It is anticipated that development of the facility will begin during the summer
of 1987.
Name: Lake Ann Park
Type: Community ParkjPlayfield
Size: 98 acres
Facilities: Tennis Court
Ball Diamonds (3), 1 lighted
Swimming Beach
Picnic Area
Play Equipment
Tot Lot
Natural Wooded Area
Open Space
Volleyball
Horseshoes
Soccer (Fall)
Trails
Boa t Access
Comments: Lake Ann Park is located in the central developed portion of the
community on State Highway 5, approximately 1/2 mile west of County Road 17.
The topography of the site is gently rolling and the western quarter of the park
is in dense tree cover. This natural diversity affords a variety of both active
and passive uses. A swimming beach is located on Lake Ann which forms the
park's northern boundary. During the summer months, lifeguards supervise the
swimming area.
The eastern portion of the park is largely undeveloped. The park master plan
calls for three additional ball fields, parking, soccer and hockey rinks.
During 1987, it is anticipated that a picnic shelter and concession stand will
be constructed in the central portion of the park. Additionally, future plans
call for a new picnic shelter/community room adjacent to the swimming beach
area.
Name: Greenwood Shores Park
Type: Neighborhood Park
Size: 3.6 acres
Facilities: Boat Access
Picnic Area
Beach Area- Lake AM
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Comments: Greenwood Shores Park is essentially lD'ldeveloped at the present time.
Facilities on the site include a boat access (carry in only) which is suitable
for canoes and small sailboats. The site slopes from east to west toward both
lakes with a drainageway roughly bisecting the tract. Tree cover within the
park is extensive. Although little development has taken place on the site,
Greenwood Shores is considered to be an important component of the Chanhassen
Park System. The area offers great potential because of the mature vegetation
and access to both Lake Lucy and Lake AM.
In 1986, the city completed a bituminous trail which connects Greenwood Shores
Park and Lake Ann Park arourrl the eastern side of Lake Ann. In the near future,
a tot lot and volleyl:all court will be built in Greenwood Shores Park.
Name: Meadow Green Park
Type: Neighborhood Park
Size: 18.2 acres
Facilities: Ball Diamonds (2)
Basketball (1/2 court)
Tot Lot
Soccer (Fall)
Off-Street Parking
Picnic Tables
Trail Easements
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Comments: Meadow Green Park was acquired as a part of the Chaparral
development. Existing facilities serve both neighborhood users and residents
from other portions of the canmlD'li ty. The eastern edges of the park will remain
as natural areas because of the presence of a creek and run-off detention pond.
Future facilities are likely to include tennis courts.
Name: Carver Beach Playground
Type: Neighborhood Park
Size: 2 acres
Facilities: Play Equipment
Open Field
Basel:all
Basketball
Ice Ska ting
Comments: Carver Beach Playground, located on Carver Beach Road consists of a
rectangular, level site. Very little vegetation is present as most of the park
is devoted to active use accommodating primarily casual game activities.
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Name: Carver Beach
Type: Neighborhood Park
Size: 7.8 acres
Facilities: Tot Lot
Beach Area
Picnic Area
Trail
Commen ts: Carver Beach is a lineal tract of land on the western edge of Lotus
Lake. This facility serves primarily as a neighborhood access to the lake and
does not serve the public at large due to a lack of parking. The southern part
of the site contains mature tree cover.
Name: North Lotus Lake Park
Type: Neighborhood
Size: 18 acres
Facilities: None
Comments: North Lotus Lake Park is located on Pleasant View Road. The site
slopes fran north to south toward Lotus Lake wi th the uplarrl area having been in
row crops and the lower lake areas in wetland vegetation. The size of the
parcel arrl its access to Lotus Lake make this park an important recreational
facil i ty .
A recently canpleted master plan calls for construction of a ball diamond/soccer
field, tot lot, tennis courts, skating rink, sliding hill, picnic shelter and
off-street parking. Facility construction will begin in 1987.
Name: Chanhassen Pond Park
Type: Community Park
Size: 16 acres
Facilities: Viewing Stand
Tra i1
Off-Street Parking
Comments: Chanhassen Pond Park was acquired as part of the residential
development of the Western Hills subdivision. The topography of the site
renders it suitable for only passive recreational uses, primarily, the
observation of waterfowl. The park has been classified as a community park
since it does not serve the demand for active facilities fran the surrounding
area. In addition to city owned land, a 4.65 acre conservation easement was
granted to the city as part of the plat of Chan Vista. Since private
development is excluded from the area, the park is effectively a 20 acre
facili ty.
Name: Rice Marsh Lake Park
Type: Neighborhood park
Size: 30 acres
Facilities: Play Area
Baseball Diamond
Picnic Shelter
Off-Street Parking
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Comments: Rice Marsh Lake Park lies on the southern end of the Chanhassen
Estates development. Approximately 1. 7 acres of the park is now being used for
the play area and ball field. A service road skirts the northern boundary of
the site to provide access to a lift station. The balance of the park is marsh
area consisting largely of cattail vegetation. Rice Marsh Lake Park is now
classified as a neighborhood park because the limited facilities are used
primarily by area residents. In the future however, this classification may
change as the park may become more significant as a community-wide facility.
Rice Marsh Lake and the surrounding marsh area afford an excellent opportunity
for the development of a natural area. Through the provision of walkways,
observation and study of aquatic plants and animals could occur.
Name: Bandimere Heights Park
Type: Neighborhood Park
Size: 2.5 acres
Facilities: Soccer
Comments: Bandimere Heights Park is located on Kiowa Trail on the western shore .
of Lake Riley. This park was acquired as part of the subdivision development
and at present, contains only a soccer field. The park site consists of a swale
area, with the surrounding slopes covered with small trees.
Name: Bluff Creek Park
Type: Commun i ty Park (Special Use)
Size: 20.6 acres
Facilities: None
Comments: Bluff Creek Park is part of the drainage system for Bluff Creek. The
site drops fran a northern elevation of approximately 900 feet down to the 700
foot elevation of the Minnesota River floodplain. This ravine provides one of
the most dramatic vistas in the community affordding a view across the
floodplain and into the City of Shakopee. Due to topographical constraints,
this parcel will serve only as the preservation of the drainage system but has
the potential to provide a future link in a pedestrian corridor system
para I leI ling Bluff Creek. Since the primary purpose of the park is to protect
the drainageway, it may be more appropriate to classify Bluff Creek Park as a
special use facility.
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Name: City Center Park
Type: COO1muni ty Park/playf ield
Size: 2.8 acres
Facilities: Hockey Rinks (2)
Warming House
Football/Soccer Field
Ball Diamond
Open Ska ting
Comments: Approximately 2.8 acres of the City Center Park site is presently
devotErl to recreation. With the close proximity of parking, this area receives
cOO1munity wide users due primarily to organized activities such as hockey.
Name: South Lotus Lake Park
Size:
Facilities: Boat Access
Off-Street Parking
Picnic Area
Open Space
Comments: South Lotus Lake Park contains the public access to Lotus Lake. The
capacity of the access is controlled by the capacity of the parking lots which
handle a total of 12 vehicles and trailers. Parking is monitored by a park
attendant during the summer months.
Name: Lake Susan Park
Type: COO1muni ty Park
Size: 18 acres
Facilities: Shelter
Picnic Area
Volleyball
Off-Street Parking
Comments: Lake Susan Park serves as both a community park and a neighborhood
park for the Chanhassen Lakes Business Park. The park presently contains a
combination well house/picnic shelter which sits on a knob overlooking Lake
Susan. Access to the park is via a narrow gravel road off of County Road 17.
Lake Ann Park
Community Park/Playfield
62 acres
ities: Tennis Court
Baseball Fields (3)
Swimming Beach
Picnic Area
Play Equipment
Tot Lot
Natural Wooded Area
Open Space
Comments: Lak located in the central developed
portion of the mmunity on State Highway 5, app ximately
~ mile west of nty Road 17. The topography the site is
gently rolling an he western half of the par is in
dense tree cover. is natural diversity aff rds a
variety of both acti and passive uses. A wimming
beach 1s located on La e Ann which forms t park's
northern boundary. Our g the summer mon s, lifeguards
supsupervise the swimmin area. Access 0 Lake Ann Park ~
is by city permit with a 79 resident ee of $2.00 and ~
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Type: Neighborhood Park
Size: 3.6 acres
Facilities: Boat Access
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Comments: Lake Lucy-Lake n Park is sentia11y undeveloped
at the present time. Fa ities on the ite include a boat
access (carry in only) ich is suitable or canoes and
small sailboats. The te slopes from ea to west toward
both lakes with a dra" ageway roughly bis ting the tract.
Tree cover within t park is extensive. A1 ough little
development has ta n place on the site, Lake ucy-Ann Park
is considered to an important component of e Chanhassen
Park System. Th area offers great potential b ause of the
mature vegetat" n and access to both lake lucy an lake Ann.
Name: Cha a
ype: Nei
Size: 18
Faciliti
Chaparral Park is a recent acquisition as a
resu of the Chaparral-New Horizons Development. Planned
fac" ities include areas for both passive and active play.
Ba ball, tennis, a play area, football-soccer, and ice
sating will be accommodated in the active spaces which
ill cover a majority of the site. The eastern edges of
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a creek and run-off detention pond. A trailway will
me nder through this area.
Carver Park
Neighborhood Park
Size: acres
Facilit, s: Play Equipment
Open Field
Baseball
Basketball
ce Skating
Comments: Carv Park located on Carver Beach ad consists
of a rectangular, level site. Very little veg ation is
present as most 0 the park is devoted to ac ve use
accommodating both rganized and casual gam activities.
~ame: Carver Beach
Type: Neighborhood
Size: 7.8 acres
Facilities: Boat Launchi
Beach Area
Comments: Carver Beach is a
western edge of Lotus Lake. T
as a neighborhood access to th
pUblic at large due to a lack
part of the site contains ma
tract of land on the
facility serves primarily
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rking. The southern
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Name: Lotus Lake Park
Type: Neighborhood
Si ze: 23 acres
Facilities: None
Comments: Lotus La Park has been recentl
at the present, ndeveloped. The site sl es from north
to south toward L us Lake with the upland are having been
the lower lake areas in wetlan vegetation.
The size of th parcel and its access to Lotus L e make
this park an . portant future recreational facili
Name: Wes rn Hills Park
Type: Ne" hborhood Park
Size: 1 acres
Facilit es: None
Comm ts: Western Hills Park was acquired as part of the
res. ential development of the Western Hills subdivision.
To ate, no development has taken place on this site. It
i projected that an entrance will be provided and some
lanting wtll take place during the summer of 1979. The
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r reational uses. The pond area is a popular site for
waf r fowl.
Chanhassen Estates
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Play Area
Baseball Diamond
Name:
Type:
Size:
Faciliti
Comments: nhassen Estates Park lies on the so hem end
of the Chanha en Estates development. Approxim ely 1.7
acres of the p k is now being used for the pla area and
ballfield. A s vice road skirts the norther oundary
of the site to p vide access to a lift stati n. The
balance of the pa is marsh area consistin largely of
cattail vegetation. Chanhassen Estates Pa is now
classified as a neig orhood park because he limited
facilities are used p imari1y by area re dents. In the
future however, this c ssification may' change as the park
may become more signifi nt as a comm ity-wide facility.
Rice Marsh Lake and the rrounding rsh area afford an
excellent opportunity for he deve1 ment of a natural area.
Through the provision of wa kways, bservation and study of
aquatic plants and animals c 1d cur.
Name: Bandimere Heiqhts
Type: Neighborhood Park
S i z e : 2. 5 acre s
Facilities: None
Comments: Bandimere
on the western shore of
as part of a subdivisio development a
is void of any faci1i es. The park si
swale area, with the urrounding slopes
trees. Development round this park is
hence, little dema for the use of the
ocated on Kiowa Trail
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Name: Bluff Cre
Type: Communi
Size: 20.6 a
Facilities:
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for Bluff reek. The site drops from a northerne1ev
of appro imately 900 feet down to the 700 foot e1evat
the Mi esota River floodplain. This ravine provides e
of th most dramatic vistas in the community affording a
view cross the floodplain and into the City of Shakopee.
Due 0 topographical constraints, this parcel will serve
on as the preservation of the drainage system but has
t potential to provide a future link in a pedestrian
orridor system paral1e11ing Bluff Creek.
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Size: 2. es
Facilities:
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In addition to city parks, other facilities both public,
semi-public, and private provide recreation spaces. Schools
are notable examples among this group. Within Chanhassen,
two public schools exist: The Chanhassen Elementary School
and Minnetonka West Junior High. They provide the following
facil i ti es.
Name: Chanhassen Elementary School
Type: Public School
Size: 10 acres (recreation area)
Facilities: Baseball Diamonds
Tennis Courts
Football/Soccer Field
Play Equipment
Running Track
Open Space
Comments: The site is relatively flat with some slope on the
western edge and has little or no existing vegetation.
Name: Minnetonka West Junior HiQh School
Type: Public School
Size: 15 acres (recreation area)
Facilities: Hockey Rink
Football Field
Tennis Courts
Baseball Diamonds
Field Hockey
Indoor Swimming Pool
Open Space
In addition to the public schools, one parochial school
provides recreation space. St. Hubert's Catholid School
which is located on the eastern edge of the business area
is utilized for some recreational activities. A play ,area,
ball diamond, and open space comprise facilities that are
used primarily by the surrounding residents.
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Herman Field
Lake Ann Park
Greenwood Shores
Chaparral
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Western Hills
Chant;assen Est.
Bandimere Hts.
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Semi-public and private facilities compose the final
categories of recreational spaces. In Chanhassen, private
facilities exist on both small and large scales. Major
facilities include the Leach Resort and the Bluff Creek
Golf Course. Leach Resort offers camping, picnicking,
swimming, and boat rentals during the summer months. Bluff
Creek provides an 18-hole golf course which is open to the
public. The American Legion in Chanhassen comprises a
major semi-public facility. Adjacent to the Legion building
is a baseball diamond which is used for both organized and
casual games.
The remainder of the private facilities are composed of land
parcels used primarily by segments of the residential
population. Most of these areas are lake access points,
the usage of which is restricted to designated residential
lots. In some of these residential outlots, other recreational
facilities such as tennis courts are provided. A detailed
analysis of private recreational facilities will not be
conducted as part of this report. At the point in time in
which these private facilities become extensive enough to
diminish the demand for municipal facilities, these areas
will be considered. At the present time however, these
areas provide services to only a minor percentage of the
total population.
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Recreational needs have increased dramatically in recent
years. Outdoor activities are recognized as a prime way
to spend leisure time, keep physically fit, and provide
a common activity for families. Higher living standards
and reduced work weeks have also contributed to an upsurge
in outdoor recreation. It is interesting to note however,
that the average number of hours worked has not significantly
declined in recent years, according to national surveys.
This is due in part to more people working two jObs and the
higher labor force participation rates for women.
Factors which determine recreation participation rates can
be grouped into eight categories. These categories were
established in a 1960 national recreation study conducted
by the Outdoor Recreation Resources Review Commission and
are still valid today.
Population: Population is the single most important factor
in determining the demand for recreation. As the population
increases, the demand for recreation increases accordingly.
Age: Younger persons are more likely to participate in all
recreation activities. Generally, pursuits become fewer
and more passive as a person grows older.
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CITY OF
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(612) 937-1900
MEMORANDUM
TO: Park and Recreation Commission
FROM: Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinator
DATE: October 28, 1986
SUBJ: Recommended 1987 Capital Improvement Program
At the September meeting, the Commission prepared a Capital
Improvement Program and recommended its adoption in the 1987
budget. The City Council has not reviewed this recommendation as
of yet as I wanted to bring it back to you for reconsideration.
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The CIP that was recommended includes $25,000 for trail develop-
ment. Staff feels that this request may be premature as we do
not know how much the total for trail development will be. The
trail plan is currently underway and cost estimates have not been
looked at yet. Once the plan has been completed, the Commission
will have to look at how it should be financed (i.e. bond issue,
CIP, etc.)
It is the recommendation of this office to delete the $25,000
trail development request until a cost estimate for the entire
project is available.
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Herman Field - Sietsema said that there was money put aside for
the development of this park. She said that the problem was
getting the access road to the park. It was suggested that addi-
tional funds be allocated for development as the construction of
the access road would be more costly than originally anticipated.
Miscellaneous - Sietsema said that a number of tables and benches
would be needed with the new park sites opening. She said that
the type of table the City has been purchasing lately, is a steel
table that is heavier and more durable. She said that people are
not able to drag them far, they do not float away when put in the
water, and they are vandal resistant.
The Commission was eager to get trail development going in the
City when the trail plan was completed and allocated $25,000 to
begin construction in 1987.
Charlie moved to recommend approval of the Capital Improvement
Program as follows:
PROPOSED 1987 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BUDGET
PARK AND RECREATION
Lake Ann Park
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Swimming Dock Replacement
Legion Park Shelter (Water/Electric)
Sand Volleyball Court
$ 1,300.00
2,500.00
300.00
Lake Susan Park
Fishing Dock
Volleyball Court
Sign
Running track
Kitchen Facilities
Light
1,300.00
300.00
300.00
1,000.00
2,000.00
300.00
Greenwood Shores
Play Equipment
Volleyball Court
Park Sign
3,000.00
300.00
300.00
North Lotus Lake Park
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Ballfield/Parking Construction (in-house)
Tennis Court
Play Equipment
300.00
1,000.00
20,000.00
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South Lotus Lake
Park Sign
Gate House
Light
Fishing Dock (w/railings)
300.00
1,000.00
1,000.00
1,300.00
Carver Beach
Tire Swing Replacement
Bollard and Chain to Obstruct old Access
500.00
250.00
Bandimere Heights
Soccer Field Construction (in-house)
Totlot Equipment
200.00
3,000.00
Chanhassen Estates Park
Upgrade Shelter
500.00
Chanhassen Pond Park
Master Park Plan Development
Park Development
1,000.00
2,000.00
Meadow Green Park
Totlot Equipment (Big Swings)
Tennis Courts
750.00
20,000.00
Herman Field
Park Development
5,000.00
Miscellaneous
Tables/Benches (20)
Trail Development
7,000.00
25,000.00
$108,000.00
The Commission wished to note that park development has slacked in
recent years. Due to housing starts and the increased interest
(park development requests), the Commission feels that these pro-
jects need to be addressed.
The motion was seconded by Boyt and carried unanimously.
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690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
MEMORANDUM
DATE: November 25, 1986
TO: Park and Recreation Commission
FROM: Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinator
RE: Park and Recreation Commission Terms of Office
As of December 31st the following Commissioners terms will
expire:
Sue Boyt
Mike Rosenwald
Charlie Robbins
Mike Lynch
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The Commissioners should state their intentions as to whether or
not they wish to serve another term. The Commission should then
make a recommendation to extend Commissioners terms or to advertise
for applicants.
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Lc.r i S i e t ':.m.:o.
City of Chanhassenn
690 Coulter Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
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My term as Park and Recreation Commissioner is expiring at
the end of this year. I do not wish to be considered for
reappointment to the commission.
1 a p p r' e c i .:0, t e ,;., 1 1 0 f the e >~ per' I e rJl: eo s I
being on the commission. Please call
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CITY OF
CHAIHASSEI
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690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
MEMORANDUM
DATE:
November 25, 1986
TO:
Park and Recreation Commission
FROM:
Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinator
RE:
Lotus Lake Boat Access Operational Procedures
The City Council has reviewed the operational procedures for
Lotus Lake Boat Access as recommended by the Park and Recreation
Commission. The Council delayed approving the procedures and
directed staff to prepare an outline that would show how these
procedures and policies affect each aspect of the park.
Attached for your information is a detailed list of park/access
procedures that will be reviewed by the City Council on December .
15th.
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CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
MEMORANDUM
DATE: October 27, 1986
TO: Don Ashworth, City Manager
FROM: Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinator
SUBJ: Lotus Lake Operational Procedures
As directed by the City Council, I have prepared a detailed list
of operational procedures for the boat access on Lotus Lake. The
Park and Recreation Commission has reviewed the major components
and philosophies of these procedures and in doing such have been
concerned that the access not be restrictive to non-riparian lake
users and that the park rules be consistant with those in other
City parks.
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The following are detailed recommended procedures for the opera-
tion of the Lotus Lake Boat Access:
Park Attendant
The access should have a park attendant on duty beginning the
first weekend of the fishing season through September. It is
suggested that the attendant work weekends only from the
beginning of the season until Memorial Day, fulltime from
Memorial Day until Labor Day, and weekends only from Labor Day
until the end of the season. Recommended hours for the park
attendant are as follows:
Weekends:
Weekdays:
6:00 a.m. until 10:00 p.m.
1:00 p.m. until 10:00 p.m.
Park attendant duties should include providing information to
access users regarding lake regulations and park rules, closing
the access when the access parking area is filled, assisting the
Carver County Sheriff's Department in enforcing park rules.
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The park attendant would work out of the gate house to be
constructed on the top of the hill above the access. A chain
gate will be installed that will be pulled across the access road
when parking is no longer available.
Don Ashworth
October 27, 1986
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Parking and Parking Siqns
Parking will be available for access users at the site. There
will be 12 car/trailer spaces provided; 2 below the hill, near
the access for the elderly and the handicapped; and 10 above.
To avoid parking problems, the access will be closed when these
spaces are filled and opened again as space becomes available.
The parking lot should be signed so as to prohibit car/trailer
parking in the spaces provided for car only park users, and visa
versa. It is also recommended that South Shore Drive be signed
to prohibit car/trailer parking along the street starting at
Highway 101 for approximately 500 feet. Additionally the
access/park entrance road should be signed to prohibit any
parking.
Park Rules and Lake Regulations
Park rules and lake regulations should be posted at the park
highlighting the most relevant items in the City Water Surface
Usage Ordinance and the Park Ordinance.
A 2'x3' sign bearing the watercraft oerating regulations should
be posted at the access so as to be clearly seen by access users.
This sign should include:
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*Towing airborne vehicles is prohibited
*Operation of watercraft in swimming areas is prohibited
*Operation of watercraft within 150' of scuba flag is prohibited
*Operation of motorized watercraft within 100' of any shoreline
shall be limited to (a) emerging straight out from and straight
toward the shoreline or (b) slow no-wake operation.
*Speed limits on the lake:
Sunrise to sunset - 40 mph
Sunset to sunrise - 15 mph
*Motorized watercrafts shall travel in a counter-clockwise direc-
tion unless travelling speeds below 15 mph
*Observer is required for boats pulling waterskiers
*Tow ropes shall not be longer thatn 85'
*Any person being towed by a boat must wear a personal floatation
device
Three 2'x2' signs should be placed in the park, one at the gate
house, one in the upper parking area, and one in the lower park
area. The park rules sign shuld include the following from the
park ordinance:
*Park hours are from 6:00 a.m. until 10:00 p.m.
*No pets are allowed in the park
*No vandalism, dumping, erecting of structures, throwing of
missiles, camping, dangerous games, destructive devices,
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October 27, 1986
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gambling, drugs, polluting, posting of bills, distribution of
circulars, trapping, moving tables or benches, selling articles,
loudspeakers, or fires are allowed in the park
*Driving or Parking on the grass or on trails is prohibited
Private property signs should be placed along the eastern
propery line along the fence to deter park users from
trespassing.
Winter Use of Access
Although the Park and Recreation Commission did not discuss this
item, it is the recommendation of this office to keep the access
open during daylight hours in the winter once it has been deter-
mined that the ice is safe. This would provide ice fishermen an
adequate access to the lake. It is not recommended that a park
attendant be on duty during this time, however.
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690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
MEMORANDUM
DATE:
November 25, 1986
TO:
Park and Recreation Commission
FROM:
Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinator
RE:
Access Road to Herman Field
The City Council recently reviewed a su.,division request by Gary
Reed located at 2461 West 64th Street. This subdivision request
provided an opportunity for the City to gain access to Herman
Field via the continuation of Oriole Lane. The applicant and the
residents along Oriole Lane asked that this not be a condition of
the subdivision for a number of reasons, namely costs due to the
drainage problems in the area.
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The Council approved the subdivisdion without the Oriole Lane
condition and directed staff to have an access plan prepared for
the park. Attached please find a cost estimate from Mark Koegler
for such a plan.
It is the recommendation of this office to authorize Van Doren
Hazard Stallings to prepare an access plan for Herman Field at an
estimated cost of $2500-3500.
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Hazard
Stallings
Architects- Engineers- PI.nners
November 26, 1986
3030 Harbor Lane North,
Suite 104
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55441
6121553.1950
Ms. Lori Sietsema
Park and Recreation Coordinator
Ci ty of Chanhassen
690 Coulter Drive
P.o. Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Dear Lori:
As you requested, I reviewed the cost of a feasibility study for access to
Herman Field. Such a study should include an investigation of all reasonable
alternatives, cost estimates for each and a final recommendation. To date, only
the Oriole Lane extension has been considered as a viable access. Other
alternatives from the north or even from TH41 to the east should be
investigated.
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The estimated cost of the feasibility study for Herman Field is $2,500 exclusive
of lam surveying am soil borings. If borings or additional field work are
necessary, the added cost should not exceed $1,000.
If I can supply you with any additional information, please contact me.
Sincerely,
VAN OOREN-HAZARD-STALLINGS, INC.
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Vice President
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(612) 937-1900
October 7, 1986
Mr. Mark Koegler
Van Doren Hazard
3030 Harbor Lane
Minneapolis, MN
Stallings
North, Suite 104
55441
Dear Mark:
As per our telephone conversation earlier today, this is to
request a cost estimate for an access plan for Herman Field.
Such a plan should determine the feasibility of all possible
accesses, cost estimate of each and your recommendation.
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Enclosed please find the staff report on the Gary Reed sub-
division request for your information.
Please call me if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
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Lori Sietsema
Park and Recreation Coordinator
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Steve Whi te
After the weekend of Noyember 1st lInd 2nd, the stllirwllY construction
project underway at Chanhassen Pond PlIrk WlIS halted for the sellson. It
will resume in early spring and, if no further delays are encountered, will
be completed no lllter thlln the end of June, 1967.
The project was approved by the City Council on Monday, August 16. The
weekends following this approval were plagued with rain, it was this rain
which kept the project from being stllrted until September 13th! Another
problem which arose was trying to pound 12- nails into oak railroad ties,
which does not work so well. This problem also halted the project, except
for some tie hauling and stocking (Sept. 20 &. 27).
We finally overcame the nail problem by building a tool which pounds
the nails in much more easily. Since that time, I have worked hard to get
os much done liS pOSSible in the few weekends left before the snow was
expected to arrive. When the snow finally did hit, and I called it a year, we
l-~j boxed in approximately 1/2 of the necessary sets of steps.
I feel that great progress has been mode in these lost few weeks, lInd I
am looking forward to the spring when I can finish the whole thing up.
The work remaining is simply to complete the boxing in of the sets of
steps lInd then to fi 11 the boxes with the crushed limestone.
I hope that this delay does not cause any serious problems with the
city's plans, and I would invite anyone with a question or interest to
contact me at the number below.
Respectfully,
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Steven D. White
8104 DlIkotlllllne
Chanhassen, MN 55317
934- 3421
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CITY OF CHAN HASSEN
CITY OF
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690 COULTER DRIVE · P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
MEMORANDUM
TO: Park and Recreation Commission
FROM: Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinator
DATE: October 28, 1986
SUBJ: City Council Update on Park Related Items
Request for Fence at Meadow Green Park
The City Council has denied the request for a fence at Meadow
Green Park as recommended by the Park and Recreation Commission.
The Council encouraged Mrs. Porter to resubmit her request next
summer should the problem continue.
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I have written to Mrs. Porter informing her of this decision.
Lake Ann Park Ballfield Lights
The City Council awarded the bid for the ballfield lighting pro-
ject at Lake Ann Park to Collins Electric, Inc. Collins was the
low bidder in the amount of $60,717.
Work may begin on this project as early as this fall; however,
the contract states that construction can continue next spring.
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(612) 937-1900
October 30, 1986
Mr. Thomas Klingelhutz
8551 Tigua
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Dear Tom:
The City Council met on Monday evening and awarded the Lake Ann
Park ballfield lighting project bid to Collin's Electric. The
bid contract is set up so that construction may begin this fall
or, should weather become a factor, next spring. Realizing the
importance of getting work started, the contractor has indicated
that they plan to get as much of the project completed this fall
as possible.
The City is currently getting an estimate on running electric
from ballfield #1 to the Legion shelter building. If at all
possible, we would like the Legion to coordinate the construction
of the shelter with the installation of lights. Getting the
footings poured and the conduit for the electrical in this fall
will help to alleviate some of the damage that will occur from
heavy trucks next spring.
If it is at all possible, I would like to meet with you. I will
call you early next week to see what your schedule looks like.
Sincerely,
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Don Ashworth
City Manager
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690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 5~
(612) 937-1900
MEMORANDUM
TO:
Don Ashworth, City Manager
FROM:
Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinator
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DATE:
November 5, 1986
SUBJ:
1986 Halloween Party
The 1986 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Department Halloween
Party was a great success again this year. As in the past years,
the party was held at the Chanhassen Elementary School on
Halloween night.
Approximately 220 children, 100 more than last year, participated
in the festivities which included dinner catered by McDonald's,
assorted games, trick-or-treating in the school halls and car-
toons.
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This community event was financed mostly by the generous dona-
tions from our business community. We received record contribu-
tions this year totalling $405.00. This implies that our -.
business people feel that a safe alternative to trick-or-treating
is important for the children of Chanhassen.
As with most events and programs, without volunteers, this would
not be possible. We had volunteers from many organizations help
with the party; the Chanhassen Fire Department, City staff, Park
and Recreational Commission, CAA members and Boy Scouts. I would
like to thank the following people for contributing their time
and effort:
Stephanie Eklund
Karen Engelhardt
Kathy Sundquist
Curt Robinson
Tom Kelly
Jerry Schlenk
Paul Rojina
Ann Rojina
Nicole Barto
Joel Hedtka
Art Kerber
Bob Halverson
Leslie Mielke
Dave Barsness
James Rosenwald
Wally Griepentrog
Sharon Johnson
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Don Ashworth
November 4, 1986
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Below is a budget for the 1986 Halloween party. As you can seen, .
receipts were more than expenditures:
Expenditures
Revenues
Cartoons
McDonald's
Candy/supplies
$ 67
$286
$166.66
$519.66
Total Donations
Part. chg.
$405
$220
$625.00
In addition to sending out letters of thanks, I will be putting
an article or ad in the Chanhassen Chamber Post to thank all of
the volunteers and contributers.
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690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
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Mrs. Kathy Sundquist
6956 Chaparral Lane
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Dear Kathy:
Thank you so much for all of your help at the Halloween party.
We had over 200 children and I believe they all had a good time.
As you know, this type of an event is just not possible without
the help of the people in the community. Thanks for making it .
possible.
Hope to see you again next year!
Sincerely,
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Lori Sietsema
Park and Recreation Coordinator
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690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
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545 West 78th Street
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Dear Millie:
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Thank you for your generous donation for the Chanhassen Park and
Recreation Halloween party. We had over 200 children garbed in
their most dazzling costumes. The children had dinner, played
games, went trick-or-treating through the school and watched car-
toons. A good time was had by all.
A~ you know, this type of community event is just not possible
without the generous support of our business community. Thank
you for helping to make this a safe and fun Halloween for the
children in the Chanhassen area. Your donation was greatly
appreciated.
Sincerely,
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Lori Sietsema
Park and Recreation Coordinator
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CITY OF
eHAIHASSEI
690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
MEMORANDUM
TO: Don Ashworth, City Manager
FROM: Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinator
DATE: December 8, 1986
SUBJ: 1987 Park and Recreation Capital Improvement Program
The Park and Recreation Commission has prepared a Capital
Improvement Program for the 1987 Budget. The Co~~ission has
listed a number of projects bringing the total budget to $80,500.
Attached please find the minutes of September 9 and December 2
outlining each project.
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PROPOSED 1987 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BUDGET
PARK AND RECREATION
Lake Ann Park
Swimming Dock Replacement
Legion Park Shelter (Water/Electric>
Sand Volleyball Court
$ 1,300.00
2,500.00
300.00
Lake Susan Park
Fishing Dock
Volleyball Court
Sign
Running track
Kitchen Facilities
Light
1,300.00
300.00
300.00
DELETED
2,000.00
300.00
Greenwood Shores
Play Equipment
Volleyball Court
Park Sign
3,000.00
300.00
300.00
North Lotus Lake Park
Park Sign
Ballfield/Parking Construction (in-house>
Tennis Court
Play Equipment
300.00
1,000.00
20,000.00
5,000.00
South Lotus La]<:e
Park Sign
Gate House
Light
Fishing Dock (w/railings>
300.00
1,000.00
1,000.00
1,300.00
Carver Beach
Tire Swing Replacement
Bollard and Chain to Obstruct old Access
500.00
250.00
Bandimere Heights
Soccer Field Construction (in-house>
Totlot Equipment
200.00
3,000.00
Chanhassen Estates Park
Upgrade Shelter
500.00
Chanhassen Pond Park
Master Park Plan Development
Park Development
1,000.00
2,000.00
1987 Proposed Capital Improvement Program
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Meadow Green Park
Totlot Equipment (Big Swings)
Tennis Courts
750.00
20,000.00
Herman Field
Park Development
Access Plan Development
DELETED
3,500.00
Hiscellaneous
Tables/Benches (20)
Trail Development
7,000.00
DELETED
$ 80,500.00
The Commission wished to note that park development has slacked in
recent years. Due to housing starts and the increased interest
(park development requests), the Commission feels that these pro-
jects need to be addressed.
The following is a list of projects that the Commission feels has
priority. These were not included in the 1987 CIP Budget
request, however as they are contingent upon events or the deve-
lopment of plans. The Commission stated that future budget
amendment requests may be made later in the year.
-Lake Susan running track (pending the acquisition of addi-
tional 8 acres)
-Trail development (pending the completion of the trail plan
and estimated costs of such a plan
-Herman Field Access Development (pending the results of the
access plan)
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December 2, 1986
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Sietsema said that it may not be appropriate to develop each type
of park the same. She said that different neighborhoods have
different personalities and needs.
Mckay said he wants to know what is appropriate for each type of
park. He said that standard criteria was needed to treat each
park development request equal. He said that he feels that staff
has no long range planning when it comes to park development and
just plays it by ear. He said that since he has been on the Com-
mission, it has only been the "squeaky wheel that gets the oil"
and he resents the looseness in the way decisions are dealt with.
Lynch said that although long range planning is needed, inflexa-
bility tends to cause waste. He said that criteria was needed
that would determine what the minimum size is for a park to be
considered for a ballfield, or what the minimum size for a park
should be, or how close to a highway is acceptable to develop
park facilities.
Boyt said that if such criteria is included in the Comprehensive
Plan, the Commission will be better equipt to make sounddeci-
sions, which will be defendable to the City Council. She said
criteria that would state "a ten acre park is eligible for..." or
"a three acre park is eligible for ..." She said she would like
to know what is appropriate for each size park.
Boyt said that the Compo Plan should also identify where poten-
tial parKS should be for long range planning.
Capital Improvement Program Budqet
Sietsema said that the Commission had prepared a Capital Improve-
ment Program in September and recommended its adoption in the.
1987 budget. She said that she was bringing it back to the Com-
mission for reconsideration.
Sietsema said that the proposed ClP Budget identifies $25,000 for
trail development and that perhaps this request was premature as
we do not know how much the total will be for trail development.
The trail plan is currently underway and cost estimates have not
yet been established. She said once the trail plan has been
completed, the Commission will have to look at how it will be
financed. She recommended taking the $25,000 for trail develop-
ment out of the 1987 ClP Budget. She noted that when the trail
plan is completed the Commission could then go to the City Coun-
cil with a budget amendment request.
It was stated that other items that are dependent on future
events should also be taken out, such as the development of Lake
Susan Park (which depends upon the HRA acquisition of an addi-
tional 8 acres).
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690 COULTER DRIVE · P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN. MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
CITY OF
CHAIHASSEN
MEf<lORANDUM
TO: Park and Recreation Commission
FROM: Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinator
DATE: October 28: 1986
'SUB.T;; Recommended 1987 Capital Improvement Program
At the September meeting, the Commission prepared a Capital
Improvement Program and recommended its adoption in the 1987
budget. The City Council has not reviewed this recommendation as
of yet as I wanted to bring it back to you for reconsideration.
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The eIP that was recommended includes $25,000 for trail develop-
ment. Staff feels that this request may be premature as we do
not know how much the total for trail development will be. The
trall 91an is currently underway and cost estimates have not been
looked at'yet. Once the plan has been completed, the Commission
will have to look at how it should be financed (i.e. bond issue,
CIP~ etc.)
It is the recommendation of this office to delete the $25,000
trail development request until a cost estimate for the entire
project is available.
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Herman Field - Sietsema said that there was money P\1t"~.!3;qeJ.ll~~
the development of this park. She said that the proble;{!f:w~.s..:--..:::/
getting the access road to the park. It was suggested that'addi-
tional funds be allocated for development as the construction of
the access road would be more costly than originally anticipated.
Miscellaneous - Sietsema said that a number of tables and benches
would be needed with the new park sites opening. She said that
the type of table the City has been purchasing lately, is a steel
table that is heavier and more durable. She said that people are
not able to drag them far, they do not float away when pu~ in; the
water, and they are vandal resistant.
The Commission was eager to get trail development'go1i1g in the
City when the trail plan was completed and allocated $25,000. to
begin construction in 1987. . .'
Charlie moved to recommend approval of the Capital Improv~~ent
Program as follows:
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PROPOSED 1987 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BUDGET
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Lake Ann Park
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Swimming Dock Replacement
Legion Park Shelter (Water/Electric)
Sand Volleyball Court
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Lake Susan Park
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Volleyball Court
Sign
Running track
Kitchen Facilities
Light
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300.00
300.00
1,000.00
2,000.00
300.00
Greenwood Shores
Play Equipment
Volleyball Court
Park Sign
3,000.00
300.00
300.00
North Lotus Lake Park
Park Sign
Ballfield/Parking Construction (in-house)
Tennis Court
Play Equipment
300.00
1,000.00
20,000.00
5,000.00
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Don Ashworth, City Manager
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Herman Field Access Plan
It was recently suggested by the City Council to develop an
access plan for Herman Field. The Park and Recreation Commission
reviewEifl.. thJ,s,:,suggestiqp and a propl)R?l made by Mark Koegler.
Mr. KO~91e~nas estimated the cost to prepare a plan that would
\2~P8~sti9a~~ ~Y~~Y~P9p~ible access point at $2,500 to $3,500.
~:..The Pafk cwo R~~~~~ation Commission continues to give the Herman .
.'?ield dev~iopment project high pri:.rity. It is their recommen-
.A~tiori,to~icit~qrize Vag Doren Hazard Stallings to prepare an
~access plan fer Herman "Field at an estimated cost of $2,500 to
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mated cost of $2,500-3,500. The motion was seconded by McKay and
carried unanimously.
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Eaqle Scout Project Update
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Sietsema said that she received a letter from Steve White
regarding his Eagle Scout Project at Chanhassen Pond Park. White
said that because of weather and other difficulties he was not
able to complete the project this fall. .' He; sa'idl:h~{ wr1'i ctititYriue
to work on the project next spring and gave June 30, 19.e7 as...a.Q
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McKay said that speci f ic a~eas. should b~..id@ntl!'t~il 'f:o;;'s~t'-~g3als,
i.e. how we run meetings. Mady said problem areas shou~d ~1~9,be
identif ied, i. e. how does the Commission interface wi th::tn~ ,.Coun-
cil. McKay said the the Commission 'lacks~the ri:riari2.lal':>data"'t6
base decisions. Mady said Chanhassenrs part"'in1p~rkod~ve~8~m~Rt
should be discussed. Boyt said the survey s.hould:be' inclU4~dr~
Lynch said that the City needs to plan for when the City ~ffl~-
take over the youth athletic programs. Boyt said the Commission
should ask when a referendum for trail development would be con-
sidered. Mady said that it did not sound like the City has much
tax base for a bond issue. Lynch said the Co~nission should
establish whe~ and if the City should consider a Community
Center. McKay said a long range plan should be developed. He
said there was a oroblem with the Council's confidence with the
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Park and Recreation Commission.
Mady moved to adjourn the meeting. The motion was seconded by
Robinson and carried unanimously.
Prepared by Lori Sietsema
ParK and Recreation Coordinator
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November 26, 1986
3030 Harbor Lane North,
Suite 104
Minneapolis. Minnesota 55441
6121553-1950
Ms. Lori Sietsema
Park and Recreation Coordinator
City of Ci".anM~O, ;C,,_"
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P.O. Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
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:+Ye~ap.J~!'CfiW:5 "Sl.!?:t1 (~S!:udYr~~d, ~nctu~=an ,r~vestlgatlon of all reasonable
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alternatives from the north or even" fr8mcTH4l to the east should be
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.j:b~ J)~t1~e~ ~~~~<ft:l'1e' t~a~~H~iff't1I{st\.idY'fOr Herman Field is $2,500 exclusive
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necessary, the added cost should not exceed $1,000.
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Htf;I ~~s~4J;>P~Y*o.'?:;with~ any aqditional information, please contact me.
Sincerely,
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VAN OOREN-HAZARD-STALLINGS, INC.
By:
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R. Mark Koegler
Vice President
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