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CHANHASSEN PARK AND
RECREATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
JANUARY 26, 2010
Acting Chair Kelly called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Tom Kelly, Glenn Stolar, Steve Scharfenberg, and Elise Ryan
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Jeff Daniel, Thor Smith and Scott Wendt
ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT:
J.R. Relich, Beverly Foster
and Rose Kircher
STAFF PRESENT:
Todd Hoffman, Park and Rec Director; Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation
Superintendent; and John Stutzman, Recreation Supervisor
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
Stolar moved, Scharfenberg seconded to approve the agenda as
presented. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0.
VISITOR PRESENTATIONS: ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION INVITATION TO
JOIN IN ARBOR DAY CELEBRATION PLANNING.
Beverly Foster: Well that’s us. I’m Beverly Foster. This is Rose Kircher and J.R. Relich and
we’re very, very excited to be here to talk about co-worker opportunities with the parks and rec
commission as far as Arbor Day is concerned particularly, but other planting opportunities
because we’ve taken on as one of our primary mission is the furthering of planting and more
trees in Chanhassen and to continue our status as a Tree City so Arbor Day’s really important to
that status so we’ve very excited to be here and to look for opportunities to work together.
Kelly: Any comments from the commission? Start with Steve.
Scharfenberg: No. I think this is a great opportunity to work together as a commission. As
commissions to support our areas and support our city and make our city more beautiful so good
ideas.
Hoffman: Do you want to explain the change for this year? Do you all understand, did you read
the packet, talk about what’s changing so they understand where we’re headed.
Beverly Foster: Well I’ll talk about what we’re doing and then you can see, because I know that
you talk to Jill a lot so you know you can fill in.
Hoffman: Well just that the festival out here is really stopping.
Beverly Foster: Right. We’ve done it for years and it’s been real successful. It has I think
though gotten smaller each year and there’s no reason to put our energies into something that has
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worked before but doesn’t work so well now when we could be doing something new and a little
more exciting and also again work with other areas. So we were looking at an Arbor Day
focusing on planting and education, because that’s basically our commission is basically an
education committee. So we thought, if we do some kind of event where we’re planting trees,
we would also look at all the ways we can let people know about the benefits of planting trees
themselves so tree selection. Work with the schools. Get things in the newspaper so whatever
we do, I mean we tend to really talk about it a lot so, so what else?
Rose Kircher: Well and as you are probably all aware, the Arbor Day poster is still a big part of
what goes on here. We have solicited the schools for their usual posters and hopefully we’re
going to get some really good feedback with that part of it. From what I understand from what
Jill just said, this year she did speak to I believe one of the schools and they have a group of
children that are very, very interested in helping to plant trees. So our primary focus is going to
be trying to find a suitable location and realizing that I know that there are some people who
don’t want a tree planted in their view of the park, I mean you know understanding that. We’re
still hoping that you know within the park system we can find a location that will be suitable to
plant some trees so that these children can be engaged in what we’re trying to do. It will be an
educational event as well as you know kind of a neighborly you know come in and help kind of
thing so we’re primarily focused on trying to get that going. We also are hoping that you guys
can help us pointing us in the right direction of a specific park that you think, or that your group
things could be benefitted by this. Sounds like Jill’s already got a group of kids lined up so it
will be very interesting to see how it works out this year.
Beverly Foster: And to add to that, we’re looking for parks but we’re also looking for groups to
work with and I know Jill suggested the Boy Scouts and there may be other groups too that have
environmental focus and would like to help out and benefit from what we have learned so if you
guys have suggestions for that in the community we would love to hear from you.
Scharfenberg: Well I would interject along those lines that, I’ll mention it to my wife who works
with girl scouts and to pass that onto her leaders. They have a leaders meeting coming up so I
will you know let her know that this is a new focus and if those girl scout groups, different troops
and that want to get involved, that I’ll let her know about that and she’ll promote it for you guys.
Beverly Foster: That’d be great.
Scharfenberg: The other thing I’m thinking is, at least the church that I belong to, Family of
Christ has, you know a lot of them have as part of going to confirmation and that, some sort of
service part of being in confirmation and we always do in the spring, we’ll have some sort of
Make a Difference Day and so different groups of kids will go out and do something and so I
will let at least our confirmation person know about this and if people are interested in doing. It
may be worthwhile you know contacting other churches and stuff to see if they have anything
similar.
Rose Kircher: That will be wonderful. Just, if anybody gets a group or if you talk to you know
your kids at school, your teachers, your congregations, whatever the case may be, if you hear of
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a group that’s interested on this please have them contact Jill here at City Hall and she can help
get them set up and get them lined up to participate. That will be wonderful.
Beverly Foster: Yeah, she’ll coordinate and then we’re still coming up with ideas for projects
but we welcome any.
J.R. Relich: Yeah I think another issue is always money. How do you pay for the trees? Well
we made the decision that the amount of money that we normally spend on the Arbor Day thing,
we get trees. We get kits. We have outside guys coming in and talk about bugs. We would like
very much to take all that pot, what I think is about $7,000 bucks in there. Between 7 and 8.
Use that for the trees so you know it’s not going to be any strain on anybody’s budget. We’ve
got that. We’re not going to give out one free sandwich this year…we’ve got the money to do it.
We can get the trees at a reasonable price and I think a big, our driving force is, you know we
understand the kids are all, I mean they’ve got to go to soccer, baseball, I mean but if we drive it
towards a school thing and get the school to cooperate rather than try to do it maybe on a
Saturday or whatever, it’ll be more effective and the teachers can use it, if you will, as a teaching
program too so that’s why our interest is pretty high here. And I think the other issue would be,
that I think about, I mean you folks really need to tell us if there’s an area that maybe needs trees.
Maybe there isn’t. I don’t know but it seems to me even if we did a boulevard, you know up
along, whatever and we haven’t decided how many trees we can put together. We’ll do that after
we get the idea further down the road, but even planting along the boulevard’s a great idea. You
know if people don’t want them in the park, I don’t care. I just like to plant trees. I like to be
Johnny Appleseed of Chanhassen.
Beverly Foster: So we just wondered if you had any questions or ideas too and thanks Steve for
sharing that idea.
Scharfenberg: Do you have a day picked yet?
Beverly Foster: Arbor Day.
Scharfenberg: Which is?
Rose Kircher: I think it’s like the first weekend in April. I believe. They’re sometime in early
April timeframe.
Beverly Foster: I thought it was the second but, I would say no. We haven’t got that one down
yet. Good question.
Rose Kircher: I believe Jill has it on her calendar but I’m quite honestly I didn’t bring my notes
so I’m not a lot of help with that part of it. But I do know that it’s going to be in the April
timeframe because I know it’s after I come back from vacation. That much I do know. Early
part.
J.R. Relich: I guess the question is, do you think it’s a good idea or a bad idea? Are you
interested or?
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Rose Kircher: You guys are, I mean we’re looking for feedback from you guys as a commission
as to whether you feel it’s a worthwhile project to become engaged with us on.
Beverly Foster: Before you speak let me just say one of the three things we talked about. We
talked about a specific Arbor Day planting. We’ve talked about group projects and we also
wonder if there’s room in the parks so.
Stolar: Well I think we’ve done things before in the park. We did the rain gardens at Lake Ann
and we participated in that. I was out there digging and a couple others were involved and the
discussion similar so I think we’ve had precedent to do this. I think it’s a good idea. You know
I think our gardens look pretty good. Having been by there and they seem to be thriving there so
those type of things I think work well. I do think if we do something we should probably do it as
a joint planning activity and maybe get one or two commissioners to join in on the planning. I
know I’ll volunteer to help out because I like the idea. I think it’s a good idea. We might want
to look at multiple parks though, not just one per se. Not a lot but you know.
Rose Kircher: And that’s great too.
Stolar: Yeah, I mean but I’ll leave it to you guys. You know we have a tree planting program
already where we identify where there needs to be replaced. We also for the Emerald Ash Borer
we’ve identified where we think there’s less diversity of species so I assume that we’re going to,
I think you said we were going to try and do that so I think you have some parks that we
identified. The one we went to visit where we said we’ve got.
Hoffman: Lake Ann and Bandimere for sure.
Beverly Foster: Just add some more diverse species.
Hoffman: Yeah, Bandimere is almost exclusively ash in the newly developed area and Lake Ann
has a lot of ash so we need to go off to the side of those plantings and plant some other species so
we don’t lose them all at once.
Rose Kircher: Especially with what’s going on with the Emerald Ash Borer. That’s definitely a
good idea to diversify that park.
Stolar: And so that’s what I guess I would look at this as that being the objective of our
participation is that it would help further that intent we have already.
Hoffman: Absolutely.
Beverly Foster: So we could amplify our efforts then if we worked together. That’s great.
Stolar: Yeah. I don’t know, if at all we have any portion of the increased funding we put for
putting diversification of trees in there. Right? We upped the.
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Hoffman: Absolutely.
Stolar: So some of that I would hope maybe could go to this if there are enough groups who sign
up, we can help out there.
Hoffman: Yep and, so we have up to $25,000 for trees in 2011. We’re not going to spend quite
all of it but these programs always get, if you can get 100 people in a park and invest in that
park, you have 100 supporter of parks and trees in your community that go back and talk about
the value of what their parks and open spaces bring to them and their community and so we
would rather have residents plant the trees than to hire a contractor to plant the trees, because
you’re accomplishing the same thing but you get more participation and much more pride in
your community if you have residents so as big as your group gets, we can increase the budget
and plant trees appropriately. Easily in Lake Ann or Bandimere you could plant as many trees,
you could plant 100 trees so. You’re not going to run out of room at one of those two parks
starting, if you start there.
Rose Kircher: I agree with you 100% on…both parks. My granddaughters play soccer at
Bandimere a lot so.
Hoffman: There’s plenty of room.
Rose Kircher: Oh yeah. There’s plenty of room out there.
Stolar: I’d be in favor of working together to figure out and you know maybe focusing on those
two parks in the first year. I think if you get more than 2 it’d be hard logistically in the first year.
Kelly: And those are two showcase parks in the city.
Stolar: Yep. Exactly.
Hoffman: And as the program builds and if it, and people find out about it, they can volunteer
their park the following year.
Dorothy Foster: Oh that’s a good idea. And I like the idea to focus and keep it, you know keep
it focused in the beginning. Be more successful I think.
Rose Kircher: And we think…even if it turns out that we have groups approach you know later
on in the spring that say well listen you guys did such and such, if they want to expand it to a
different park, I’m sure we can talk to you guys and find out you know if the park they’re
looking at is an appropriate resource for that additional funding. We can certainly move forward
with that as well. Doesn’t mean we have to stop with just one day.
Dorothy Foster: Is that something that you put out there to people to solicit help for their local
park or do you get that kind of feedback from the community at all?
Hoffman: Sure. They come right up to this podium and ask for things in their parks.
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Dorothy Foster: Oh that’s nice.
Hoffman: Sometimes doing a joint effort and sometimes that’s just something that the
commission budgets for and completes in the following year.
Rose Kircher: Wonderful.
Ryan: And to add to that if, to get people more interested and just saying we’re going to plant
certain trees, you know possibly doing some sort of a contest. Like if you initiate 5 species of
trees that you’d prefer to have in the park or you know fit well with the park, you know leave it
up to some of the residents to pick or rank their’s and then when you know their favorites and
then when they get involved then they feel like they had part of this election process which
would you know add to having a little vested interest in participating.
Dorothy Foster: And so this is a new project for us. We’ve been very, very focused on water.
Resources in the community and so we’re shifting into this that’s why we’re a little bit uncertain
about some of the things but we certainly are excited about it already.
Hoffman: All the trees in our park system have a story. They were either planted as a part of the
original development or planted through one of these efforts. There’s been a variety of groups
that have planted trees in the community throughout the years. Staff has planted a good number
of trees. So they all have a story and what I would encourage you to do is search other people’s
Arbor Day festivals and find out what’s successful there and pick up some successful ideas.
Things that seem to work. It’s coordination. You know keep it simple. Easy to understand for
people. We’ve got a lot of groups that are identified. Anytime you get groups involved you get
instant numbers and as long as there’s labor for them to do, what groups really don’t appreciate
is when they show up and not everyone can get involved and so if you can get them involved and
get them working and moving around and it’s not just planting but it’s mulching and watering
and clean up and those type of things. As long as that’s orchestrated well I think, and then there
could be some, you know some record keeping of what groups and we could give a plaque.
What groups participated what year and those type of things. One of my favorite bumper sticks,
the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. Second best time to plant a tree is today so, just
love that bumper sticker and so anytime you plant a tree you’re really doing your community a
favor. If you look back at aerial photos of Chanhassen, it was virtually barren back in the 30’s
and 40’s and the 50’s.
Dorothy Foster: Not too long ago.
Hoffman: In the 60’s it just kept getting worst as they plowed more fields so there are more trees
here now than pre-residential development but you always need more. It’s one of the most
proven methods of you know, you adjust carbon in a tree and you lock it in and, until it’s taken
out again so it’s a great thing to do for a community and people, it’s physical labor. People
really like to get their hands dirty out on Arbor Day and, as long as you get some reasonable
weather people will really have a lot of fun.
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Dorothy Foster: So for next steps we’ll be working Jill and we’ll be meeting again next month
and we probably would like to have a contact point with your commission so if you’d like to let
us know who it would be.
J.R. Relich: Well we would put together a plan very much you know 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. What we
expect to do. You guys look at it. Does it make sense? Remember we’re not foresters but we
know a little bit about trees. What kind do we want to plant? Where do you want to go? We’ll
do the coordination of getting the kit, I mean you know we’re going to lead the project but we
need you guys to help us.
Hoffman: Yeah, if you pick up a couple commissioners, they’ll jump right down and the rest
will trust those 2 or 3 to work with you and just keep it moving along so.
J.R. Relich: Yeah, right.
Hoffman: Glenn says he’s interested.
Stolar: So if you’ll send my name to Jill.
Hoffman: You bet.
Dorothy Foster: Oh great. Okay, great.
Rose Kircher: Yes, our next meeting is the second Wednesday of next month so if 1 or 2 of you
would like to attend, I’m sure that would be wonderful. We start at 6:00 or 6:30. It usually runs
at 6:00-6:30 but you know we can certainly look forward to having 1 or 2 or all of you join us if
you’d like.
Stolar: Is that the Environmental Commission meeting? So you don’t have a separate planting,
this is your commission’s activity? Okay…if you could have Jill send me an email.
Hoffman: Yep. We’ll ship it right out to you and then I’ll secure the other volunteers out of the
remaining 4 members. 3.
Dorothy Foster: And basically we’ll check the, we’d better check the agenda and make sure
what we’re going to do and then figure out where we’ll put you and let you know exactly what
time.
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Kelly: Just for the record that would be the 10. February 10.
Dorothy Foster: Anything else from us? We really thank you for your time.
Hoffman: Planting trees makes for a great photo opportunity too. Look on our web page.
Rose Kircher: I know some great people with cameras.
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Hoffman: Look on the City’s web page, on our whatever you call it, the thing on the top.
Rose Kircher: The banner?
Hoffman: The banner. There’s a picture of a boy scout planting a tree and that was in
Bandimere Park quite some time ago. Thank you all for coming.
Dorothy Foster: We appreciate you letting us have some of your time.
Hoffman: Absolutely. Looking forward to Arbor Day.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Scharfenberg moved, Stolar seconded to approve the
verbatim and summary minutes of the Park and Recreation Commission meeting dated
December 8, 2009 as presented. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously
with a vote of 4 to 0.
2010 PARK AND TRAIL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM (CIP).
Hoffman: Thank you Chair Kelly, members of the commission. Each January we run through
the year’s CIP to put in front of you what you can expect to see happen in the area of park and
trail capital improvements. 2010 it’s very straight forward. Recreation center fitness equipment.
Three new pieces of equipment are expected to arrive within the next week or two at the
recreation center. This is the third installment and people are very happy with the capital
investment that is being made at the recreation center. When this started 3 years ago most of the
equipment was original to the building’s start in 1995 so Jodi and her staff are excited, as are the
patrons of the recreation center. So if you ever have any comments or hear patrons that are using
the facility and have some input, just let Jodi or myself know. Then we move forward into
picnic tables and benches. We have $10,000 again. It’s a placeholder. A variety of things are
purchased from this. The memorial bench program so if we do 3 or 2 or 1 memorial bench a
year, those are purchased out of here and then this fund is reimbursed through the donations that
we receive for those benches. The $1,000. We also, last year we purchased two more of the
black wrought iron tables in front of City Hall. The year before that we purchased the tables for
the new park shelter out at Lake Ann so, when things come up we use those funds to make those
purchases. Trees as we’ve talked about, that’s been increased to $25,000 from 10 to allow for
increased plantings to mitigate the future loss of our ash tree inventory. If you look around the
ballfields at Lake Ann, the ballfields, the soccer fields at Bandimere Park, there are many ash
trees and if you visualize those being gone it’s, those parks don’t look like they’ve been around
for 30 or 40 years and so we need to get a start on planting some new trees. And when we go in
we’ll be planting, like Elise said, 3 or 4 or 5 different kinds of species because there is going to
be some other problem that arises. Arrives back on down the line. In the event you hear of
anything, any places or neighborhoods or parks that want trees, let us know. We’re scheduling
both a spring and a fall planting this year. Highway 41 is moving ahead. The pedestrian
underpass and trail grant match. You’ve seen the press in the Villager. It’s also coming out in
the Chanhassen Connection. People are starting to call and email. They’re interested. They’re
looking forward to it. Planning is initiated in engineering in 2010 and then construction in 2011.
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Stolar: I just spoke to someone in that neighborhood and she is very interested. Was wondering
if it could be in 2010. Sorry, they can’t, I mean the idea of being able to get under the, she has
younger kids and you know putting on the back of her bike. Being able to go under the park.
Hoffman: Very attractive, yeah.
Kelly: Is that grant guaranteed or can something happen to that grant over the course of?
Hoffman: Guaranteed million dollars. So that’s a great partnership with the County. The
County is leading the project. We are the partner. We will be scheduling and holding the public
meetings here. The neighborhood meetings at City Hall allowing the County to lead those but
you know inviting residents to City Hall for the meetings. Or the rec center.
Stolar: Would we also be able to hold them let’s say over at the.
Hoffman: Middle school?
Stolar: Middle School West so that people in the neighborhood could jump over there.
Hoffman: Absolutely. Also included is the stairway project so Highway 41 pedestrian stairway
and that will take you from the, really the west entrance to the underpass and then straight up the
hill into the Highover neighborhood. There’s an outlot between two still vacant lots and that trail
then will come from the top of the hill to the front of the lots.
Kelly: Just, I’m not too familiar, is there a reason why it’s a stairway and not just a steep climb.
Hoffman: It could be a steep climb. We’ll take a look at the grades at that location. Often times
in that type of situation you want to prevent bikes from taking that direct, it’s that steep. And
then what they’re going to run into is an underpass so there’s not a real run out. We have some
steep trails but if somebody gets in trouble they either go off the bottom or they go off the side
and this might not have those kind of safety buffers. But we’ll take a look. And then a single
project held over, our Lake Ann stairway project. We got late in the season with the contractor.
They wanted to open up the project in November but we did not want that to happen so we said
we’re going to hold it over til this spring, and that’s the stairway from the new pavilion, new
shelter down to the beach to allow for that transportation. So that’s what’s going on in 2010.
Some very exciting projects and you’ll be looking at the 5 year CIP starting in probably May or
June.
Scharfenberg: Todd I take it the, that sewer lime out at Lake Ann for the new food area, that
doesn’t have to come out of our CIP.
Hoffman: Planning on doing the construction. I’m not sure what the funding source will be as
of yet. It may come out of sewer and water.
Scharfenberg: Okay.
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Hoffman: It’s about a $20,000. They’re holding off for some better weather to start the
underground. You know over at Lake Susan they’re going to take a water line from Lake Susan
out to the water treatment plant and that’s the contractor will go over to Lake Ann and so once
we get the contract, then Paul and I will start the barter process then. Who’s going to finance the
$20,000. And then Mr. Gerhardt will decide.
Scharfenberg: So it’s still a possibility it could come out of our’s but we don’t.
Hoffman: Yeah. It could. It could. And that’s the sewer line from the shelter down to the lift
station at Lake Ann turnaround and then that takes the sewage from there over to Greenwood
Shores to another lift station. And that would allow for concessions.
Stolar: And eventually if we decide to put a bathroom there, that’s the same pipes you would put
in?
Hoffman: Yeah. Thank you.
2010 REACH FOR RESOURCES ADAPTIVE RECREATION CONTRACT.
Ruegemer: Thanks again Chair Kelly. Annually the Chanhassen Park and Recreation
Commission takes a look at the Reach for Resources contract. They have provided adaptive
recreation services to the city since 1999 so they’ve done a great job for us. They provide an
excellent service to our community and our clients. The Reach for Resources does schedule a
training session with the park and recreation summer staff. The playground leaders. Playground
director and that sort of thing to go through just certain characteristics on kind of what to look
for. Techniques and tips that we can educate our summer staff to help out kids with disabilities.
Situations that we can have a quality experience for everybody in our programs, especially with
the Summer Discovery Playground and field trips and other types of situations that we may pop
up during the course of the summer. Looking at the 2010 contract, the contract is exactly the
same as last year’s contract. The contract is based on participation. This year’s contract is
reflective on 43 participants. Last year we had 48 so we seem to be kind of staying consistent
with our numbers on an annual basis with that. There are 5 cities in the consortium that the
contracts are based on. St. Louis Park, Hopkins, Chanhassen, Chaska, and Minnetonka with that
so, with that being in the consortium, all the cities are charged a base price of $2,500 and then a
percentage that the cities are charged is based on participation. So with our participation
numbers our percentage is 9% of that and our share of the 9% plus the base totals out to be
$6,882.27 for our contract. That amount has been budgeted in the 2010 budget. It’s staff’s
recommendation that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend that the City Council
approve the 2010 contract for adaptive recreation services with Reach for Resources.
Kelly: Any questions for Jerry from the commission? Is there a motion to approve?
Scharfenberg: Move to approve the contract with Reach Resources. Reach for Resources.
Stolar: Second.
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Scharfenberg moved, Stolar seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission
recommend that the City Council approve the 2010 contract for adaptive recreation
services with Reach for Resources. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously
with a vote of 4 to 0.
RECREATION PROGRAM REPORTS:
2010 FEBRUARY FESTIVAL.
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Stutzman: Thank you Chair Kelly. First up we have February Festival. This will be the 17
annual February Festival coming up this year. It’s getting a few changes this year and I’d like to
answer any questions that the commission may have as well as talk to you guys about some of
these changes. For a long time the way it has been set up, it’s been run as a fishing contest with
a raffle associated in partnership with the Chanhassen and Southwest Metro Chambers of
Commerce. Depending on which years it were. This year the way we’re looking at doing is, due
to the growth of the Chamber as well as kind of the desire to look at more family activities for
the celebration as well as the desire to kind of separate the ties from the gambling licenses that
have been associated with some of our events, we’ve proposed a couple or we’ve made some
changes this year. The first of which would be to continue to make this attraction with prizes for
people. The fishing contest has been beefed up this year. Instead of the 20 prizes that we’ve
done for the largest 20 fish, we will actually be going to 50 largest fish this year and we will
have prizes valued over at $20 per prize in that area. The $20 was derived from the fact that
tickets this year will be $10 instead of $5 and it is assumed that the majority of people will
probably buy 2 tickets because by DNR regulations you’re allowed to buy, or fish 2 lines. One
line per ticket so if they are buying 2 tickets we want to make sure that they were getting their
money worth if they get a fish prize so we do have over $6,000 worth of fish prizes this year in
that top 50 so I’m very pleased with what we got and almost all of the 50 were donated this year
as well so. From our local business community. In the past with this the fishing ticket was also
considered a door prize ticket. That’s when it became a raffle. This year that will not be the
case. The ticket will only be a fishing ticket but what we will do to continue to offer this service
and this event, or this activity at the event, participants, whether they’re fishing or not will be
allowed to pick up one door prize ticket the day of the event. We will have that on the ice
located near the ticket sales that each person can come pick one up. It will be entered into a
drawing the way we’ve done, or the way we’ve done the drawings in the past. It will be sporadic
throughout the contest. Displayed not like last year. We’ll be able to spread it out a little bit
more too so it’s not grabbing you know 20 prizes, 25 at a time and having them all come up at
the end. It will be more 10 to 15 throughout the contest, starting at about 12:30-1:00.
Somewhere in that area. Probably the 1:00 when the bulk of the people get there. But pushing
that through the contest. We will have 90 prizes for that this year. Again those were donated
again by generous businesses throughout the city so, but this will be free to everybody. Whether
they’re fishing or not. It’s not associated with the contest. It’s more of another activity for the
overall event and going through that. The other piece is that they do need to be present to win.
It’s not a raffle so it is, it is just a door prize but they need to be in attendance to pick up the
ticket and be in attendance to pick up the prize. If the prize is left over we will just continue to
raffle off at the end, or draw again until all the prizes are claimed at the end. Those are the two
majority changes of this year. Other pieces, once again we will have the larger separated tent to
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include the Friends of the Library and the bingo inside the tent. It was considered not to do this
again this year but through a financial contribution from the Friends of the Library they have
made this possible again because they did enjoy having that shelter so they have pitched in to
help us cover the differences of the cost from the larger tent to the smaller tent. It is quite a nice
tent for those of you who were here last year. I know the library and the Friends really
appreciated it so it was nice to give them the option to continue to do that this year. Scheduled
events was created again in-house by our Office Manager Karen. She and her staff did a
wonderful, wonderful job helping put things together. We’ve gotten a brochure, or two fliers in
the Villager out to everybody and we have ads in the Herald and the Villager here coming up as
well so, as well as signs around the city so we’re getting things out there. Tickets are currently
on sale as well. At this time if anybody does have any questions I’d be happy to entertain any
questions for the changes or any activities for the event.
Kelly: So just, I’m just hung up on the board. So I see the board.
Scharfenberg: Be the board.
Kelly: Be the board and the board has two sides. 20 slots. I’m just wondering, so you’re going
to have 20 slots for the fishing. The next 30 are going to somewhere but you also have to put the
names of the prizes up so how logistically are you going to fit 30 more names on that board?
Stutzman: The way I envision it at this time is, obviously the door prizes will remain on that one
side because it is a double sided board for anybody who hasn’t seen it so the door prizes will
remain on that side. The fish side, the way I envision it is we’ve always had a little bit of room
to go further down the board so the 20 we would probably condense width wise and use the
entire board for that to get both the prizes and the names and then have more kind of on that
outer half use, or however quarter, use a long sheet. Probably condense it a little bit but just
listing the prizes. At this point I don’t plan on putting 21 through, or posting 21 through 30
throughout the contest. The plan at the end of that is to get 3 separate papers that we can take up
there. Grab 3 volunteers. One, and just scribble them down and post them as the mayor is up
there announcing 1 through 20 and have them just say okay 21 through 50, take a look. See if
your name’s up there. Go report. Your prizes are over there otherwise people or the staff will
contact you after the event. So it won’t be up there the entire contest so we’re not shuffling all of
those through. It will still be the top 20 because those will be the most fluid and the ones that
people are going to be the most excited about, but we will post them at the end on that part of the
board but we’ll have, what the prizes are for those positions posted throughout the entire contest.
Kelly: Do you need to be present to claim your fishing prize?
Stutzman: No. Fish prizes you do not need to be present for. Just the door prizes.
Kelly: So we’re going to be giving out more information than we have in the past? On the,
probably of a phone number.
Stutzman: We’ll still have the ticket stubs.
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Hoffman: Yeah. They’ll have a record of who they are. As long as we have a name.
Stutzman: We will still have the ticket stubs for us to get in touch with them so.
Ruegemer: And if there’s not enough room on the board for say traditionally kind of what we’ve
done, we can also get some more event signs with the tubular frames that we had that we post the
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4 of July signs. There’s other types of things. We can have an auxiliary board as well if we
need additional space or room from that. You know kind of big board on the trailer so we’ll
figure out the logistics of that just to make sure it’s kind of a good flowing piece of the event so.
Hoffman: Be more fish prizes to keep track of and we’ll have a weigher and a recorder and then
somebody’s going to need to be assembling the sheets because that’s going to be a lot of fish to
weigh in.
Kelly: Keep track because you’re going to have, yep.
Hoffman: Lot of movement.
Stolar: Depending on the weather, is it possible to bring a computer?
Hoffman: Yeah, absolutely. I’m wondering, we still need a good idea from commissioners and
maybe we could use a computer on how we’re going to make sure that people get one door prize
ticket.
Stutzman: Currently at this point the thought is the honor system and we’ll have the same people
distributing them so they can at least recognize.
Hoffman: But that’s a lot of people to keep track of.
Stutzman: There will be a lot of people coming through. It has been discussed possibly giving
out wrist bands but again that’s an awful lot of wrist bands and that gets.
Hoffman: Well they could take it off.
Ruegemer: Could we just do it you know, as simple as going into a bar. Here’s a black X on
your hand.
Stolar: Yeah I was thinking that too. Just a little stamp on the hand.
Hoffman: Could do that.
Stolar: I mean if they want to go scrub it off, let them get another door prize.
Stutzman: With it being a winter event though you’re going to see a lot of gloves.
Hoffman: Yeah, they can just pull it off.
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Ruegemer: Yeah. That was my thought.
Kelly: You don’t need a fishing, you don’t need to purchase a fishing pass so you can’t just
stamp their fishing pass.
Hoffman: Good thing you’re still hitting the bar scene.
Ruegemer: I’m glad to share my experiences. Yeah I’m a clubber.
Hoffman: That might work. Simple.
Kelly: In the past did we get a lot of people that bought more than 2 tickets at $5?
Hoffman: Yes.
Kelly: So do you think we’re going to be generating more money or less money by raising it to
$10 but only limiting it to 2?
Stutzman: Our goal is to break even at this point. Keep it about the same, which was the
purpose for doubling the amount or doubling the price and beefing up the prizes was to try and,
so we don’t have a downfall in revenue. Ultimately once we re-generate and get people used to
this theme, I believe yes. Our revenues will go up. I think this year my goal is to keep it right
around that $6,000 mark that we’ve had in the past so but yeah we will, I think it will like I said
limit it a little bit this year but again if we have, with 50 prizes. We have 300 fishermen buying
2 tickets each, I mean we hit our goal right there so, and with $6,000 in prizes I would say that’s
a pretty fair chance.
Hoffman: More importantly Tom, it’s clean money. You know the other way was kind of not
by the rules.
Kelly: Yep.
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Hoffman: Tom doesn’t like that. The 4 of July, those darn rules.
Kelly: Don’t feel bad. I don’t let my wife change the furniture in the house either so it’s, I like
things, I not open to change unfortunately. That’s an opportunity I have I guess.
Stolar: Did you get your emcee?
Stutzman: I have not Commissioner Stolar. If you would like to that would be great.
Stolar: I didn’t say I would like to…
Stutzman: Fred Berg has said this is a one year hiatus so it is not a permanent gig.
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Stolar: That’s what he said last time…what was it, 3 years ago? 4 years ago I did it. Something
like that.
Hoffman: I remember. You did a great job.
Stutzman: It wasn’t with my tenure I know that so, but he accidentally scheduled a vacation.
Stolar: …out of town or something that he wasn’t able to make it.
Kelly: Do we need a motion? For Glenn to be the emcee.
Hoffman: He’s still hoping.
Stolar: I’m going to filibuster.
Stutzman: …just bring a fact sheet just so you have it ahead of time if you were willing and
able. …As I said a lot of generous contributions this year. A lot of very generous contributions
from a lot of people making this event very smooth so far.
Kelly: Is the grand prize, which in the past has been the trip to Las Vegas, is that a fishing prize
or is that a door prize?
Stutzman: We have transferred that over to the top fishing prize.
Kelly: Okay.
Stutzman: Yeah, we felt that was necessary to keep that size of a prize as the grand prize of the
event so.
Kelly: And that’s a travel voucher.
Stutzman: Yeah. Due to the travel industry it has switched to a $500 travel voucher from.
Kelly: It had been a Vegas trip right?
Stutzman: It had, yeah. That switched last year for the first time just based on kind of the
industry and their, it was something that he wasn’t sure if he could continue to do it but we kind
of worked with him and this is what we worked out rather than a full trip so.
Kelly: Great.
Stolar: Are we going to separate out the largest fish prize to different species or are we still
going to just do straight.
Hoffman: Weight.
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Stutzman: Yeah, based on solely on weight.
Hoffman: And I know we’re talking about changes. There may be a future change as well.
We’re in conversation with the DNR now. Not for this year but next year and they may allow
permit that you can keep and weight all the fish, even the protected bass and the slot northerns
for up to 3 minutes and so if you brought them up, weighed them and released them, and if
they’ll allow that and if we get a certain guarantee that that won’t just stop, we would want to
start that and so into the future years because it’s really a bummer when the 25, 6 inch northerns
come up and.
Kelly: Yeah. The whole ice goes crazy when someone comes up with that fish.
Hoffman: So, and that would be more exciting and obviously would not disappoint the, it’s a,
well some years it’s 2 or 3 or 4 and some years it’s none but it’s kind of a disappointment.
Stutzman: I think the last 2 years we’ve had at least one.
Hoffman: Yeah. And that’s come up to the weigh station. We don’t know how many people
actually have caught a bass and just tossed it down.
Ryan: So outside of Glenn doing the announcing, what other volunteers do you need and for
what time are you?
Stutzman: Thank you for bringing that up. What we are looking for, the Chanhassen Rotary has
generously agreed to help out significantly again but where traditionally we’ve had the
commission help and it’s been a wonderful help. Is kind of help with the prize distribution.
Drawing of the door prizes. If somebody would like to help with, help assist Todd with keeping
track of the fish leaders, the commission’s always helped with that so those sort of things. Under
the warmth of the tent have always been appreciated so.
Hoffman: On the carpet.
Stutzman: I know I’ve heard, I believe I’ve actually talked with most people here this evening as
well as some of the others and I think the more we can have the better but I understand that it
does fill up and schedules do get filled so any and all help is welcome so.
Ryan: Is there a particular time you want us?
Stutzman: Yeah, about oh let’s see I’m trying to think. I think it was 12:30. 12:00-12:30 til
about 3:00 would be fantastic.
Kelly: It’s a fun event and the time seriously, the time just flies by. It really does.
Ryan: And I’m hardcore outdoors so you don’t have to worry about me.
Stutzman: Once that first line hits the water, that fish comes up, it seems like it’s 3:00 already.
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Scharfenberg: Maybe Elise wants to drill holes.
Stutzman: The Rotary has generously agreed to come out again this year and volunteered to drill
homes again. That’s just what some…
Kelly: It’s easily the second best event, in my opinion that the City puts on…warmer but it’s a
lot of fun.
Scharfenberg: I was going to say the Easter Egg Hunt.
Hoffman: Yeah, there’s just a lot of excitement. People are excited to see the activity. Sleigh
rides are great.
Stolar: Are you going to try to do the skating rink again?
Stutzman: Yep. We’ll have the skating rink and the loop again. We will also have the sleigh
rides back again this year. That will be offered for free again so the City’s picking up the tab on
that, which was a great addition last year and I think it will continue to be a fun event this year as
well.
Kelly: Will there be alcohol this year?
Stutzman: Yep. The Rotary will be doing beverages and actually one other change this year is
Culver’s will be working with the Rotary to do the food this year. There’ll be Culver’s working
with the Rotary and the Rotary will be handling the beverages and Culver’s will be handling the
food. It won’t be cold food. It will all be warm food.
Hoffman: My sister and her husband are bringing friends from Texas who have never ice fished
and never ice skated and they couldn’t be more excited.
Kelly: Any other questions for John?
Stolar: Yeah, something we talked about before. I don’t know if the Rotary might want to do
this but having like one whole set up for people who want to learn how to ice fish. Maybe get a
couple holes and just put up a sign, learn how to ice fish.
Hoffman: Absolutely.
Stolar: I know a lot of people transplanted here that have never done it.
Kelly: Someone showing how to put the bait on. Yeah, that would be.
Stolar: Are the boy scouts selling the bait again?
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Stutzman: Yep. Bait and s’mores. Pretty much all the traditional activities that have been going
on will be continued.
Ruegemer: Do all the commissioners have a copy of the schedule of events and that sort of
thing? Anybody have that?
Stolar: You could email it.
Ruegemer: We could pdf it. We could email it to you guys tomorrow so you have a copy of that
and you can distribute it however you’d like to. To your friends.
Stolar: That’d be great. My boss’s wife wants to do ice fishing. She’s never done it so I was
thinking about her.
Hoffman: People love it.
Stutzman: Well this year all the fish are going to count.
Hoffman: A lot more of them are.
Stutzman: We’ve been talking those little ones people have been afraid to bring up, those are
going to be on the board at some point.
Kelly: And there’s no special smallest or lightest fish? It’s just straight 1 to.
Hoffman: 1 to 50.
Stutzman: No. We explored that possibility of doing smallest or doing something different and
we kind of discussed and said 1 to 50’s probably the best way to go.
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Hoffman: With 50 fish that’d get confusing. Is it 49 or?
Stutzman: Well realistically too this is going to be 50 people winning prizes because the rules
have always stated that it’s one person per, or once on the board it will just be whatever your
highest is so that’s 50 out of potentially 300 or, that’s pretty good odds.
Kelly: Great. Thank you very much.
2009 TREE LIGHTING EVALUATION REPORT.
Stutzman: Thank you Chair Kelly. This seems like forever ago but since we didn’t want to be
pre-emptive this year with our evaluation it’s been postponed a little bit but it was, we talked
about it a little bit at the last meeting. It was another good celebration this year. In my tenure it
was by far the biggest that I’ve seen. It was actually quite enormous this year which was really
cool. Ton of families and younger children out there this year with about 200 people I would say
at least out there. Once again we had help from the Chanhassen Business Council and their
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involvement with the Southwest Metro Chamber of Commerce led up by Nancy Lipinski from
her accounting service. Nancy does a wonderful, wonderful job. It can’t be said enough how
much she helps with this event. Once again we had donations from many local businesses but
most particularly I’d like to acknowledge the coordination that the Mustard Seed provided with
getting Santa and one his elves and reindeer to the event as well so. The bonfire once again was
a wonderful hit, as it was another chilly night and we got our snow we got again just in time for
the event so the park looked great. Park maintenance guys helped set up the bonfire as well as
the park and hope you guys all got a chance to take a look at the park because it really did look
good this winter once again so. As I mentioned Santa Claus was coordinated through the
Mustard Seed and Mark Halla. Once again we had carolers this year and they continue to be
volunteers from Living Christ Lutheran Church. They’ve done this for 2 years now and really
have fun with it. Do a great job and each year they look forward to coming back so I think look
forward to continuing to work with them in the future. And the new piece as we discussed a
little bit at the last meeting was the gingerbread house display. Seemed to be a big success again
and look forward to building on that in the future with 5 entries this year and hoping to continue
to get that to grow with winners being awarded in both most creative and most difficult so. If
you guys have any questions I’d be happy to talk about that but I know we did talk about that a
little bit in the December meeting.
Kelly: Thanks. Thanks John.
SELF-SUPPORTING PROGRAMS: 3-ON-3 ADULT BASKETBALL LEAGUE.
Ruegemer: Just an informational piece for the commission tonight. We just finished our third
week of the winter basketball league here last night. I guess it’s only Tuesday. Playing out at
the Chan Rec Center. We have one division with 7 teams out there. They will play a 8 week
season. With that we’ll start the league playoffs here the first couple weeks in March and then
the tournament champion and consolation champion will receive a trophy and a league, division
league winners that will get t-shirts for that so. Just a fun way to get some exercise and have
some fun out at the rec center. Haven’t had any major injuries up to this point that I’ve heard of
so everything must be going well. We have a recreation center staff member that you know turns
the clock on and off for 20 minute halves out there and Steve enjoys, continues to enjoy that
work. We’re extremely lucky to have him out there and he does a great job for us out there so
we appreciate all his efforts as well so the season is going fast so I’d better get the playoff
schedule here. I think I already have that done in fact so we should be all set to go here.
Kelly: Thank you. Any questions for Jerry on the league?
ADMINISTRATIVE: 2010 MONTHLY “HANDS-ON” COMMISSION ACTIVITIES.
Hoffman: Optional is right and this sign up sheet is not a contract so. What we would like to see
though is, I like to use the word behind the scenes but in government behind the scenes is not a
good term but that’s kind of what this is. Hands-on or behind the scenes so I’ll pass it out
tonight if you have a chance to take a look at it. Also send it out and if we get one commissioner
on each one of the items as a start, that would be great. There’s also opportunities for multiple
commissioners to be involved in these different activities. Throughout all four seasons and there
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are a variety of things. The way I would portray this is, you might know something about a lot
of these but it’s just like anything else. Once you get involved there’s much more to the
particular activity than you might have expected and I think you’ll learn a great deal so we’ll
start handing that out and then you can take a look. We’ll do it again by email and how this is
going to work is, once you sign up again it’s, there’ll be a staff member assigned and they’ll
contact you when it gets closer to the time. If you’re available, great. If it works fine. If it
doesn’t work, that’s fine as well so. We just want to give you the opportunity to get involved in
some of these activities. And so you can look at that while we move into the admin section.
Scharfenberg: Todd, in that sign up sheet does it say in October what that National Park and
Recreation Association Congress in Minneapolis, do you know what the time period is on that?
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Hoffman: Dates are 23, 4 and 5.
Stolar: That sounds right.
Hoffman: That’s a National Congress. So as commissioners we can register you. You can
attend a day or an evening event or a day and evening event. Whatever you choose.
Ryan: And can many people do this or is it only 3? Like if a bunch of us want to do one of
them.
Hoffman: That’s fine.
Ryan: Is that, okay.
Kelly: So the trail system snowplowing. We just sit in the passenger sit?
Hoffman: Oh it’s a blast, yep. It’s really cool.
Stolar: We’ll have to get multiple plows out.
Hoffman: Sign up.
Kelly: Have we talked to, I see the Huffman Race Committee is on here. Have you talked to
about a potential half marathon in Chan. Is that still going to be something that’s going to be.
Hoffman: Still talking about it but it wouldn’t happen this year.
Kelly: Wouldn’t happen this year, okay.
Hoffman: What year is it for the Minneapolis Marathon? First or second.
Kelly: This coming year I believe will be the second year in the Minneapolis Marathon.
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Hoffman: June 6. Did you run it?
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Ryan: No.
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Kelly: And Twin Cities Marathon is having their first annual half marathon on the 4 of July
this year. I’m guessing that will, I know you were thinking July for half marathon date but if this
half marathon by the Twin Cities Marathon takes off, that could be a competing run.
Hoffman: It would be, absolutely.
Kelly: So something to keep in mind if you’re thinking of maybe different times.
Hoffman: Admin section we have your attendance record for 2009. We have a couple of
commissioners that need to make a decision for re-appointments. Re-application or re-
appointment potential by April and then we’ll elect Chair and Vice Chair in April. In April
we’re also going to take a commission photo so I’ll remind you of that. Once we get our new
commissioners appointed we’ll have a commission photo in April. Then also in this packet is a
letter to Victoria about a trail project they’re working on and then tonight if we could, it’d be
great if the commission could nominate a distinguished service award nominee for the Chan
Rotary Distinguished Service Award program. That’s awarded at the Annual Tulip Gala on May
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1 at Oak Ridge Conference Center.
Kelly: Who have we nominated in the past? First year we nominated Dale for last year?
Scharfenberg: No. Last year you nominated my wife.
Stolar: Two years ago it was Dale.
Scharfenberg: Two years ago was Dale.
Kelly: Sorry about that.
Scharfenberg: That’s alright. And she actually was chosen as one of the three finalist.
Hoffman: Absolutely.
Scharfenberg: You know along those lines with respect to the Chanhassen Rotary Club, I was
just kind of thinking about that. Given what’s happened in this past year, the city with kind of…
to park and rec but somebody to consider would be Terry Kimball who has done a lot of work
with respect to the Booster Club and now in organizing the town ball activities and stuff like that
so she would be one to potentially consider for that, given all the work that she’s done with the
school and getting that you know up and running.
Hoffman: Half of my list. Top of the list right there.
Scharfenberg: Is it?
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Hoffman: Yeah.
Scharfenberg: It’s just I had been thinking about that so.
Stolar: What else, what other?
Hoffman: Steve and Becky Chepokas. The Miracles for Mitch folks.
Kelly: Any thoughts from the commission on those two or any other potential candidates? My
personal view is I think town ball is, Terry does a lot, you see her around. I mean she does a lot
with all the CAA sports but being instrumental in town ball I think is a pretty remarkable
accomplishment. Bringing a team back here and there was a timing I think, this would be the
right time to nominate her for it. Not to say, nothing Miracles.
Hoffman: They’ll be around.
Kelly: They will be around but this could be the…
Ryan: I would, I mean beyond instrumental. I mean she is the reason why town ball will be
coming to Chanhassen. The amount of work that she does daily on top of the other things that
she has going on is like I’ve never seen. She’s amazing so I would wholeheartedly support that
nomination for sure.
Kelly: Any discussion or I will call for a motion then from the commission to nominate Terry
Kimball for this award. The 2010 Distinguished Service Award.
Scharfenberg: So moved.
Ryan: Second.
Scharfenberg moved, Ryan seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission nominate
Terry Kimball for the Chanhassen Rotary Club’s 2010 Distinguished Service Award. All
voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0.
Scharfenberg: I’ll even draft the nomination.
Stolar: Thank you. Would you then email it to the rest of us?
Scharfenberg: Yeah.
Stolar: Thank you.
Scharfenberg: Yeah, I’ll talk to, is Bill is her husband right? Yeah. I’ll talk to him a little bit
and get some information.
Hoffman: And Dick Unger.
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Scharfenberg: And Dick. Okay. Yeah, I’ll email Dick.
Hoffman: It’s not going to be a short list.
Scharfenberg: No. No, I know.
Stolar: What other things does she do?
Hoffman: Booster Club. Chan Boosters.
Scharfenberg: CAA. She does all the CAA stuff.
Stolar: A lot of really a lot of recreation volunteer.
Scharfenberg: On top of her full time job which is at the Arboretum.
Hoffman: And she’s not just an expert volunteer but she’s an expert at recruiting. She has her
boss doing volunteer work.
COMMISSION MEMBER COMMITTEE REPORTS.
Ryan: Yeah, I’ll give a quick update on town ball. First I’d like to thank Todd for all of your
help with everything to do with town ball.
Hoffman: You’re welcome.
Ryan: You’ve been a huge help and I know Terry’s leaned on you with a lot of things. So have
I so I appreciate your quick response to all the questions that we have so thank you very much.
Three things kind of going on right now. We finalized what the uniform’s going to be. Without
going into too much detail because we were going back and forth on what we wanted, you know
Red Birds versus Chanhassen and we all agreed that we have to have Chanhassen on the
uniforms to identify who we are because people won’t really know who just the Red Birds are.
They’re all white uniforms. Red piping. Chanhassen across the chest and then blue caps with
the letter C either in red or blue with either white or red piping on the outside. So went with
sleeveless jerseys and then they’ll do like a t-shirt underneath so depending on home away
games you would do either a blue shirt underneath or a red shirt underneath, so that’s what we
finally got the logo. It’s just a little red bird. It looks like a little cardinal. Got that finalized
and so that’s the uniform. That was a big hurdle to jump over but we’re really happy that we got
that done. Second thing, we’re struggling to find a manager so if you know anybody that is
interested. We aren’t looking for a specific age. Somebody that wants to volunteer. Loves
baseball. We’re just, we’re really struggling getting you know people think that they want to get
involved and then, and then some conflicts come up, either family or timing is not just working
for them so you know please, all they have to do is get in touch with Terry. We’re setting up
interviews. Now we really need to get somebody on board because we’re going to start, you
know we need to get the team going. We need obviously to have try-outs and that’s what we
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want to start doing in March so really looking and working hard on trying to find some managers
so if you know of anyone please pass their name along to myself or of course Terry. We did,
we’re getting an article in the Connection again. Thank you Todd for moving that along for us,
and then I’ve been in touch with two people from the Star Tribune and hopefully we’re going to
get something in the West Metro section this Thursday in sports and then there’s another
gentleman who’s looking to do an article just in the West Metro section just about town ball
coming back to Chanhassen so I’ve been in communication with them trying to get that to be,
you know to move forward. Hopefully that will actually draw a little attention and possibly get
some manager’s names past our way as well so that’s kind of the next thing. And then the final
thing is we’ve developed a sponsorship package. We’re you know finalizing the print but it’s
going to just be you know like a fold over brochure that has different levels of sponsorship.
Something as basic as you know having a banner hanging in the outfield, just a 4 by 8 banner
hanging in the outfield with the company’s name on it. All the way up to sponsoring a game so
where their name is going to be announced over the loud speaker. They would be able to hand
out literature or you know little baseballs with their, you know little cache stuff that they can
hand out at the game so we have a variety of sponsorship opportunities and as soon as we get
that printed up I’ll bring it to our meeting and give you guys some that you can hand out to
friends and business partners that you know and let them know that there’s opportunities to
sponsor. So moving full speed ahead. We meet once a week and if you guys have any questions
let me know but made some big progress in the last couple weeks and I’m looking forward to it
so, any questions?
Hoffman: Web site’s out there?
Ryan: Web site.
Scharfenberg: What’s the.
Ryan: I knew you were going to ask me that. Ballcharts.com\Chanhassen so, but you can just
go to ballcharts.com and then do Chanhassen.
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Hoffman: Press conference on Friday, February 19 at 3:30 and please bring family and friends.
Let’s fill the high school conference area. What do they call that area? Commons, yeah. Fill the
commons for the press conference. They’ll be doing some jersey, giving to the mayor and the
school board chair and there’ll be some old players there that will have their jerseys from the
original Red Birds so that will be exciting. And then working on club liquor for a club liquor
license which will be 3.2 for the club and right now with the, I know Terry and Dick Unger and
others are talking about is trying to get that building constructed so you’d have a location on the
property for the alcohol storage, and then you could serve beer during the town ball games.
Scharfenberg: What time again on the press conference?
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Hoffman: Friday, February 19 at 3:30. It’s a Friday. Friday, Feb 19 at 3:30. At the
Chanhassen High School commons.
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Kelly: When is the proposed first pitch? For the first game. Are there dates yet for the first
game?
Hoffman: Yeah, first game is in April.
Ryan: Well that’s a practice. The real game is May but they just are, they switched it around
again so they haven’t finalized when our first game is. I was working on it.
Stolar: What are they going to do if they don’t have a manager by then?
Ryan: We aren’t thinking about that.
Stolar: Well what I’m saying do you have a bunch of assistant coaches. There’ll be people who
want to coach but don’t want to be manager that can still lead through the stuff. You get that
sometimes being in Little League, right. No one’s the head coach so you just have a bunch of
assistants.
Ryan: We’re just trying to get anybody to get involved somehow.
Scharfenberg: Elise have you approached some other communities that have town ball teams
and talked to some of their people about do you know of people who might have some interest in
doing this?
Ryan: Yeah. Another gentleman on the board has been contacting other town ball leagues and
has connections. I emailed all of the local college coaches so the St. Thomas’s and St. Cloud
State, all those universities, I sent out a personal email as well as a press release to let them know
that we’re looking so we’ve been you know getting the word out as much as possible.
Stolar: What about like the various baseball clinic leaders around here?
Ryan: Haven’t thought about that. That’s a good idea.
Stolar: Yeah because like Jay Mikenas does Pine Tar Academy and actually he just retired from
the Millers. But he’s a Hopkins coach so I think timing would be, he couldn’t do that but he
might know other people and the Mike Berset, he has some clinic but he also, he still plays for
the Millers after I don’t know 60 years he’s been on the team. He’s been on it forever but he,
you know those are guys that, and then who’s the other.
Kelly: There’s some guy…his first name would probably be Tom and he was a minor league.
Stutzman: Tommy Nevers?
Kelly: Yes.
Stolar: Yes, Tommy Nevers, that’s the other one. Isn’t his clinic over in.
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Scharfenberg: Edina.
Stolar: Edina, yeah.
Stutzman: He does a lot of…
Stolar: Those are guys that know the baseball scene. They might have trained someone 10 years
ago and say oh yeah, the guy’s back working in town. Why don’t I give them a call.
Ryan: Good idea, thank you.
Stolar: The other thing I was thinking is, even sending to the leagues, the various Little Leagues,
like East Tonka Little League, South Tonka Little League which have heavy Chanhassen
participation. Send the directors there a note saying hey, if you know of any of your coaches. I
was thinking Kevin Tapani was a coach for one of those Little League teams last year.
Stutzman: He’s coaching one of the…
Stolar: Doesn’t Paul Molitor live in Chan? Thought he did.
Ruegemer: Yeah, I think he did.
Stolar: He does. He lives over, I think off of Pleasant View. So those are major leaguers. I
mean if you contact the leagues they, they could say yeah here are some people.
Stutzman: You could talk to the Diamond Club in Minnetonka too.
Hoffman: It’s an important first step. Spread the word.
Kelly: Any other committee member reports or comments on the administrative packet?
Scharfenberg: Move to adjourn.
Kelly: Is there a second?
Ryan: Second.
Stolar: Second.
Scharfenberg moved, Ryan seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in favor and the
motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0. The Park and Recreation Commission
meeting was adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
Submitted by Todd Hoffman
Park and Rec Director Prepared by Nann Opheim
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