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CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 16, 2010
Acting Chair Laufenburger called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Mark Undestad, Kathleen Thomas, Tom Doll and Denny
Laufenburger
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Debbie Larson, Dan Keefe and Kevin Dillon
STAFF PRESENT:
Sharmeen Al-Jaff, Senior Planner; and Angie Kairies, Planner
PUBLIC PRESENT:
Bobby Jensen 7568 Arbor Lane, Savage
Andrew Aller 460 Trapline Lane
Jim Schaffran 845 Creekwood Drive
Jessie Bent 2779 Century Circle
Colleen Dockendorf 2061 Oakwood Ridge
Whaley 851 Lyman Boulevard
Jack Appert K.A.
PUBLIC HEARING:
SCHAFFRAN VARIANCE: REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE TO CONSTRUCT A
RETAINING WALL WITHIN THE BLUFF IMPACT ZONE ON PROPERTY ZONED
AGRICULTURAL ESTATE DISTRICT (A2) AND LOCATED AT 845 CREEKWOOD
DRIVE. APPLICANT: BOBBY JENSEN’S LANDSCAPE JUNCTION. OWNER:
JAMES SCHAFFRAN, PLANNING CASE 10-05.
Kairies: Good evening Chair Laufenburger, members of the Planning Commission. The
application before you this evening is for 845 Creekwood Drive, Lot 1, Block 1 in the Vogel
Addition. The property is zoned A2, Agricultural Estate. It’s bordered by, or it’s located south
of Pioneer Trail and west of Highway 101 and is bordered by the Bluff Creek Golf Course. The
site was platted and the home on the property was constructed in 1985. Much of this site is
encompassed by the Bluff Creek Overlay District boundaries as well as the bluff located over
much of the site. The Bluff Creek Overlay District was adopted in 1998. Typically a conditional
use permit would be required to do any construction within the Bluff Creek Overlay District.
However the City Code does have an exemption for properties who’s principal structure was
constructed prior to 1998, which again this was constructed in 1985. Therefore no conditional
use permit is required. A variance however is required due to the location of the bluff on the
site. There is a bluff located on much of the property. The variance is to construct a retaining
wall within the bluff impact zone which is the bluff itself and the land located 20 feet from the
top of the bluff. There’s an additional setback from the top of the bluff so there’s a total of 30
feet for any structure to be located. The reason for the retaining wall is due to the erosion and
runoff problems inherited by the current property owner who purchased the home in 2007.
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Much of the vegetation as you can see from the photograph was removed and has caused severe
erosion problems into Bluff Creek. The intent of the wall is to mitigate the erosion problems and
runoff. In addition to the construction of the retaining wall the applicant is proposing to
revegetate portions of the bluff to further stabilize the land. The second wall is a supporting
wall. The wall shown in the red color is a wall that currently exists and was replaced. The wall
further down, which is the blue dotted line which follows the 915 contour, will be supporting that
wall. In the area between the two walls there is a 3 to 1 slope. The idea of this wall is not to
create a yard in the rear of the property but to maintain the natural features of the bluff. It’s
staff’s opinion that this wall will be a benefit to the natural bluff, therefore staff is recommending
approval and at this time I’ll take any questions.
Laufenburger: Okay, thank you Angie. Any questions for staff? Mark?
Undestad: No.
Laufenburger: Kathleen, how about you?
Thomas: Nothing.
Laufenburger: Okay, Tom any questions?
Doll: Just the item number 10. Zoning permit will be, shall be applied.
Kairies: A zoning permit is a permit that is required when a building permit is not required. A
building permit’s required for any wall over 4 feet. The proposed wall is estimated to be about 3
feet tall.
Doll: That’s all I had.
Laufenburger: Okay, thank you. Is there an applicant or an owner that would like to speak to
the commission? If not, stand at the podium. State your name please.
Bobby Jensen: My name is Bobby Jensen and I am the applicant.
Laufenburger: Alright, welcome.
Bobby Jensen: It’s a really pretty simple project. It’s a retaining wall. We will revegetate. We
did speak with the township, Angie help me? Terry.
Kairies: Water Resource.
Bobby Jensen: Water Resource to work in conjunction with him for what we can use on the
lower side. Actually he thinks we can get some DNR maybe down the line to revegetate and get
some money from them to do it. If you could tell from the pictures, it’s got a gully. It’s getting
worse and worse and we replaced the top wall and we would like to replace the second wall to
mitigate the problem. To protect Bluff Creek pretty much is what we want to do and it’s a pretty
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simple deal. It’s not complicated at all. The wall, I think except for that one point where it
meets the two is probably no more than 3 1/2 to 4 feet high. That’s about it in it’s simplicity.
Laufenburger: Thank you Mr. Jensen. Any questions? Mark.
Bobby Jensen: Any questions?
Undestad: Just one. The area between the two walls, is that entire area going to get the 3 inches
of mulch and?
Bobby Jensen: It will be mulch. The whole thing will be mulch and there is a landscape plan on
here that we will use which was talked about with staff and approved by staff prior. Basically
the vegetation that’s going in is all stuff that will hold on a hillside.
Undestad: Okay, thank you.
Bobby Jensen: Thank you.
Laufenburger: Ah just a moment. Any other questions? Kathleen?
Thomas: Thank you.
Laufenburger: Tom, I’ll ask you.
Doll: No.
Laufenburger: I do have a question.
Bobby Jensen: Yes.
Laufenburger: In the material that the staff provided, we had a picture of the previous retaining
wall that looked to be a timber.
Bobby Jensen: That’s gone.
Laufenburger: Yeah. No, that’s gone and that’s been replaced by a rock?
Bobby Jensen: Boulder wall. It’ll be matching.
Laufenburger: Boulder wall, okay.
Bobby Jensen: It’s a boulder wall and the lower one will be a matching boulder wall. So it’s all
natural.
Thomas: Yeah, they’ll hold up better too.
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Bobby Jensen: Alright?
Laufenburger: Alright. Thank you very much.
Bobby Jensen: Thank you.
Laufenburger: At this time I’d like to open the public hearing for the Schaffran variance. If
there’s anybody in attendance this evening who would like to speak or comment on this, you’re
welcome to do so. Stand up to the podium and state your name and address. Not at this time. I
will close the public hearing. Okay. Folks, what do you think?
Undestad: Looks good to me.
Thomas: Makes sense to me. It’s probably the only way that’s going to keep the property in
good proportion and not lose more of it to runoff and a boulder wall will be great because I’ve
seen timber walls you know explode.
Laufenburger: Yeah, as this one apparently did.
Thomas: Yes, that’s the you know 20 years or so and they just blow apart.
Laufenburger: How about you Tom, any comments?
Doll: No. Looks good to me.
Laufenburger: I think it’s good stewardship on the part of the new owner. Obviously they
inherited something when they purchased the property that wasn’t suitable and wanted to take
steps to prevent any further erosion and silt and sediment going into Bluff Creek so I’ll entertain
a motion.
Thomas: Sure I’ll move. I’ll make a motion. The Chanhassen Planning Commission as the
Board of Appeals and Adjustments approves a variance to construct a retaining wall within the
bluff impact zone subject to conditions 1 through 10 in the staff report and adoption of the
attached Findings of Fact and Action.
Laufenburger: Okay we have a motion. Is there a second?
Doll: Second.
Laufenburger: Any further discussion?
Thomas moved, Doll seconded that the Chanhassen Planning Commission, as the Board of
Appeals and Adjustments, approves a Variance to construct a retaining wall within the
Bluff Impact Zone as shown in plans dated Received January 14, 2010 and adoption of the
attached Findings of Fact and Action, subject to the following conditions:
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1. Erosion control measures are to be installed on the slope and maintained until final
stabilization is achieved. These measures should include staggered silt fence with J-
hooks or staggered bio-rolls with J-hooks.
2. The applicant shall vegetate the bluff in accordance with the Landscape Plan submitted
by Bobby Jensen’s Landscape Junction, stamped “Received January 14, 2010”.
3. No area within the bluff impact zone and below the more upslope retaining wall is to be
maintained as yard.
4. No mowing shall occur within the Bluff Impact Zone except as needed per an approved
vegetation management plan to control noxious weeds or to establish native vegetation
consistent with the surrounding plant community.
5. Recruitment of seedlings from the surrounding seed source trees shall be allowed in the
area below the second retaining wall. No efforts shall be taken to control the growth of
trees in this area unless they are considered invasive, such as common buckthorn or black
locust.
6. Imported soil materials need to be granular with no greater than 10% clay content to
allow for infiltration.
7. Location of drain tile outlets shall be such that it does not create a nuisance condition nor
promote erosion. Stabilization BMP’s shall be placed at the discharge point and shall be
inspected by the Water Resources Coordinator.
8. The applicant shall work with staff to determine the height of the step when connecting
the proposed wall to the easterly portion of the existing wall.
9. The retaining wall shall be located no lower than the existing 915’ contour.
10. A zoning permit shall be applied for and approved prior to construction.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0.
PUBLIC HEARING:
PUD AMENDMENTS: REQUEST TO AMEND THE FOLLOWING PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENTS LOCATED SOUTH OF HIGHWAY 212, AT THE NORTHEAST
AND NORTHWEST INTERSECTIONS OF LYMAN BOULEVARD AND HIGHWAY
101: SOUTHWEST VILLAGE AND CHANHASSEN GATEWAY. APPLICANT: CITY
OF CHANHASSEN, PLANNING CASE 10-03.
Al-Jaff: Chairman Laufenburger, members of the Planning Commission. On December 1, 2009
staff presented an issue paper to the Planning Commission explaining the need to amend various
planned unit development ordinances governing developments within the city. Staff is proposing
that in the event the PUD is silent on an issue that we reference the city code. For example the
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city code has been amended to allow LED lights in addition to high pressure sodium’s. If a
planned unit development ordinance does not reference the city code, then we would have to
amend the planned unit development itself and we have multiple planned unit developments
within the city. What staff is recommending is that we amend the planned unit development
ordinance to reference the city code. This way the different PUD’s stay current with the city
code that’s in effect at this time. The two planned unit development ordinances that we are
bringing before you govern the Chanhassen Gateway or Crossroads of Chanhassen development
as well as the Southwest Village. The sites are located northeast and northwest of the
intersection of Highway 101 and Lyman Boulevard and south of Highway 212. Both sites are
guided mixed use. They permit high density residential as well as neighborhood business district
type of uses. Staff is recommending that the planned unit development ordinance for Southwest
Village be amended to reference the neighborhood business and the high density residential
district regulations and permit LED lights as stated on page 4 of the staff report. Staff is also
recommending that the planned unit ordinance for Gateway be amended to reference the
neighborhood business district to allow LED lights and reference the Neighborhood Business
District as stated on page 4 of the staff report and I’d be happy to answer any questions you
might have.
Laufenburger: Alright, thank you Sharmeen. Any questions? We are not creating any non-
conformance with this, is that correct?
Al-Jaff: No. If anything we are bringing everything up to current ordinances and just being
current with what the city code requires us to do.
Laufenburger: I’m wondering if, I know that we’ve had discussion over the last few months
regarding LED, adding LED to the lighting possibilities to the, I believe it’s up to the developer’s
discretion, is that correct?
Al-Jaff: Correct.
Laufenburger: Have you, the developers of either of these, will either of these sites, either
Gateway or Southwest Village approached you on the LED lighting?
Al-Jaff: I have to admit that when Kwik Trip was being constructed they approached the City
and they wanted to do LED lights. Unfortunately the ordinance for this development did not
reference the city code so we would have to wait 60 days between publication, bringing this
ordinance before the Planning Commission. From staff initiating the process til the end, it takes
approximately 60 days and they couldn’t wait that long.
Laufenburger: Okay. Good. Alright at this time I’ll open the public hearing on the PUD
amendments as presented by the staff. Anybody present would like to make a comment or ask a
question about this. Please step to the podium and state your name and address for the record.
Alright, thank you. There being no comment I’ll close the public hearing. Well folks, thoughts.
Comments.
Doll: I think sounds good to me.
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Laufenburger: Kathleen, good clean-up I think.
Thomas: Yeah, I think good clean-up and the inclusion of LED lights will be helpful for anyone
going forward because I know Kwik Trip was very adamant about wanting to put those in but
just couldn’t.
Laufenburger: Absolutely. Alright. I’ll entertain a motion.
Doll: The Chanhassen Planning Commission recommends that the City Council approve the
following motions. One, the Planning Commission recommends that the City Council approve
the Planned Unit Development amendment for Southwest Village amending Sections a and j(l)
as stated in the attached ordinance, and adopts the Findings of Fact. Two, the Planning
Commission recommends that the City Council approve the Planned Unit Development
amendment for Chanhassen Gateway amending Sections a and k(l) as stated in the attached
ordinance and adopts the Findings of Fact.
Laufenburger: Alright, thank you. We have a valid motion Tom. Is there a second?
Undestad: Second.
Thomas: Second.
Laufenburger: Alright. Thanks.
Thomas: Before we do it can I just change the l to a one?
Laufenburger: Sure make note of that.
Thomas: That they are j.one and k.one.
Laufenburger: That it’s j.one versus j.l and k.one versus k.l. I think Nann will pick that up.
Thomas: Thank you.
Doll: Glasses need a little adjusting.
Thomas: Do you accept my?
Doll: I do. Sorry.
Thomas: Alright.
Doll: I was wondering why it was an L.
Laufenburger: Any further discussion?
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Doll moved, Thomas seconded that the Planning Commission recommends that the City
Council approve the Planned Unit Development amendment for SouthWest Village,
amending Sections a and j.1 as stated in the attached ordinance; and adopts the Findings of
Fact. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0.
Doll moved, Thomas seconded that the Planning Commission recommends that the City
Council approve the Planned Unit Development amendment for Chanhassen Gateway,
amending Sections a and k.1 as stated in the attached ordinance; and adopts the Findings
of Fact. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Commissioner Undestad noted the verbatim and summary
minutes of the Planning Commission meeting dated February 2, 2010 as presented.
COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS:
None.
CITY COUNCIL ACTION UPDATE.
None.
Acting Chair Laufenburger adjourned the Planning Commission meeting at 7:15 p.m.
Submitted by Kate Aanenson
Community Development Director
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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