PC SUM 2003 07 15CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
SUMMARY MINUTES
JULY 15, 2003
Chairman Sacchet called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Steve Lillehaug, Rich Slagle, Uli Sacchet, Bruce Feik, and Craig
Claybaugh
MEMBERS ABSENT: Bethany Tjornhom and Kurt Papke
STAFF PRESENT: Bob Generous, Senior Planner; Sharmeen A1-Jaff, Senior Planner; Matt
Saam, Assistant City Engineer; Mak Sweidan, Engineer; and Kristin Wentzlaff, Planning Intern
PUBLIC HEARING:
CONSIDER REOUEST FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT FOR
A DIRECTORY SIGN TO BE LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF
KERBER BOULEVARD AND WEST 78TM STREET. STEVEN HANSEN.
Kristin Wentzlaff presented the staff report on this item. Commissioners asked for clarification
on the size, height and location of the sign. Steve Hansen was present representing his father, the
owner of the building. He asked for clarification of the height on the sign. Commissioner
Claybaugh asked the applicant if he had concerns with the tree adjacent to the sign. He stated
that with the sign being placed 10 feet farther back, it shouldn't impact the tree. Commissioner
Feik asked about the non-conforming signs and the temporary leasing signs. Commissioner
Slagle asked how to limit window signage on the building. Commissioner Lillehaug suggested
placing the sign at an angle to provide more separation from the tree. Chairman Sacchet opened
the public hearing. No one spoke at the public hearing and the public hearing was closed. The
Planning Commission was in concurrence with the plan and made the following motion.
Claybaugh moved, Feik seconded that the Planning Commission recommends approval of
PUD Amendment 093-1, Section (g), Signage to allow a monument sign to be placed at the
intersection of Kerber Boulevard and Picha Drive, with the following sign standards:
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The sign must be a maximum of eight (8) feet in height and shall not exceed sixty-four
(64) square feet.
The sign must be outside of the thirty (30) foot sight triangle.
The sign must maintain a ten (10) foot setback from any property line.
If the sign is illuminated in the future, it must be back lit or cast down at an 90° angle.
The sign must be built consistent with the plans submitted on 7/9/03.
Signage constructed on this property in the future must follow the Industrial Office Park
district sign ordinance (Sec. 20-1304) and the original PUD sign package.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
In summary, the Planning Commission fully supports this application and thinks it's appropriate
to have the signage there. They'd like to see the non-conforming signs out and have the
engineering conditions added when it comes in for a sign permit.
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PUBLIC HEARING:
CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT FOR HIDDEN VALLEY TO ALLOW A PRESCHOOL MONTESSORI
AS A PERMITTED USE AT THE DISCOVERY UNITED METHODIST CHURCH,
LOCATED AT 275 LAKE DRIVE EAST, ASIM H. OADRI.
Public Present:
Name Address
Brad Johnson
Salfeha Asim
Asim Qadri
8026 Erie Avenue
8795 Knollwood Drive, Eden Prairie
8795 Knollwood Drive, Eden Prairie
Sharmeen A1-Jaff presented the staff report on this item. Commissioner Slagle asked the size of
the playground. Commissioner Lillehaug asked if other churches were zoned similarly to this
one. Commissioner Feik asked if the church could make future additions without coming before
the city for approval. A1-Jaff stated they would have to come in with a site plan. Commissioner
Claybaugh asked if the building official had looked at the plans and if the proposal being a
daycare affected it's building classification. Chairman Sacchet asked for clarification on the PUD
amendment and when conditions would be enforced.
Asim Qadri, 8795 Knollwood Drive, Eden Prairie, Minnesota, 55347 spoke on behalf of the
applicant. He clarified the location and size of the playground. Commissioner Slagle voiced his
concern that the church was not present at the meeting. Commissioner Lillehaug asked if acting
on this item set a precedence. Chairman Sacchet opened the public hearing. Brad Johnson, 8026
Erie Avenue South, who is a neighbor to the church, asked for clarification of the use. Is it a
daycare or a preschool, how the church fits into daycare/pmschool use, and what kind of fence is
going to be placed around the playground area. The applicants provided an explanation of
Montessori schooling and their background. Chairman Sacchet then closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Slagle asked staff to clarify the relationship between the church and the
Montessori school. Commissioner Feik asked Commissioner Slagle what his concern was with
the landlord/tenant relationship. Chairman Sacchet stated that this use would have to comply
with the noise ordinance. Commissioner Slagle asked for the hours of operation. After
discussion the following motion was made.
Feik moved, Claybaugh seconded that the Planning Commission recommend the approval
of the Planned Unit Development amendment to allow a daycare as an ancillary use to the
church located on Lot 1, Block 7, Hidden Valley. All voted in favor and the motion carried
unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
Chairman Sacchet summarized that the Planning Commission fully supports this application for a
Montessori use in a church. They wanted to clarify the noise ordinance framework for the
neighbors. At least one commissioner asked what bearing there was, if any, that the applicant
was here as the tenant who wanted the new use and why the owner, landlord was not here.
Another commissioner asked staff to provide the adjacent property owners a clear decisive path to
field comments regarding that use of the building, whether it's the applicant or the church, so
there's no confusion.
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PUBLIC HEARING:
REOUEST FOR REPLAT OF LOT 8, BLOCK 1, RICE LAKE MANOR INTO 4 LOTS
ON PROPERTY ZONED RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY, LOCATED AT THE
NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF WEST 86TM STREET AND
TIGUA LANE, 8590 TIGUA LANE, KURT MILLER.
Public Present:
Name Address
Tony Greaves
Marty Schutrop
570 West 78th Street
540 Lakota Lane, Chaska
Sharmeen A1-Jaff presented the staff report on this item. Commissioner Feik had concerns with
the driveway access from Lot 3 ont° a curve in the road. Commissioner Claybaugh asked about
drainage, especially for Lots 1, 3 and 4. Commissioner Lillehaug wanted staff to discuss the need
for a lift station and if the city has looked at options of tying into the sanitary sewer system
located to the west of this site. Chairman Sacchet asked for clarification on the tree canopy
requirement.
Chairman Sacchet opened the public hearing. Marty Schutrop, representing the applicant, stated
he was the builder and purchaser of the lots once this subdivision is approved. He explained the
need for the lift stations. No one else wished to speak and Chairman Sacchet closed the public
hearing. After commission discussion the following motion was made.
Feik moved, Lillehaug seconded that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the
preliminary plat for Subdivision g03-11 for Rice Lake Manor Second Addition for 4 lots as
shown on plans dated November 19, 2002, subject to the following conditions:
1. City Forester conditions:
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The applicant shall submit a landscape plan showing a minimum of 12 trees to be
planted.
A minimum of two (2) deciduous, overstory trees shall be required in the front
yard of each lot.
The applicant shall be responsible for installing all landscape materials proposed
in the rear yard areas.
Tree preservation fence shall be installed at the edge of the grading limits on Lots
3 and 4, Block 1 prior to any construction.
2. On the grading and utility plan:
Show all existing and proposed easements.
Label each of the new lots as custom graded.
Show the rear lookout elevation for Lot 3.
Show the location of the existing wood fence.
Show the existing sanitary service to Lot 2.
Show and label the existing 8 inch DIP watermain in West 86th Street.
Add a row of silt fence in back of the curb near the existing sanitary manhole.
Move the lift station to within five feet of the common property line of Lots 3 and
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3. All plans must be signed by a professional engineer registered in the State of Minnesota.
Detailed grading, drainage, tree removal, and erosion control plans will be required for
each lot at the time of building permit application for City review and approval.
Proposed runoff rates for the site must be submitted to ensure that the existing storm
sewer is sized sufficiently.
6. The lift station will be designed by the City and paid for by the developer.
Sanitary sewer and water hookup charges along with the Met Council's SAC fee will be
due on all of the lots at the time of building permit issuance.
Since the applicant is now proposing more units than what was previously assessed, the
three additional units will be charged a watermain lateral connection charge at the time of
building permit issuance.
The applicant is required to install the sanitary and water services to the property line of
the proposed lots.
10. Drain tile is required to be installed in back of the curb on Tigua Lane.
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Based on the proposed developed area of approximately 2 acres, the water quality fees
associated with this project are $1,898 and a water quantity fee of approximately $4,969
for the proposed development. AT this time the estimated total SWMP fee due payable to
the City at the time of final plat recording is $6,594.
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The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies
(e.g. Riley-Purgatory-Bluff Creek Watershed District, Minnesota Pollution Control
Agency) and comply with their conditions of approval.
13. Building Official conditions:
Soil reports must be provided for all lots where fill soils are placed or soil
correction work is done.
The owner and/or their representative shall meet with the Inspections Division as
soon as possible to discuss plan review and permit procedures.
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Park and trail fees shall be paid as required by ordinance for the three new lots only. The
total fee based on 2003 park fee requirements is $2,400 per lot or $7,200 for the three lots,
payable at the time of final plat recording.
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The driveway serving Lot 3 shall be located to the north as far as reasonably
possible.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
In summary the Planning Commission fully support this subdivision. It complies fully. There
was a concern about the lift station servicing only three lots and in view of the possibly of more
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lots coming in, they asked staff to double check the possibilities of having more lots tie into a
gravity system going to the west.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Feik noted the verbatim and summary Minutes of the Planning
Commission meeting dated July 1, 2003 as presented.
Chairman Sacchet adjourned the Planning Commission meeting at 8:25 p.m.
Submitted by Kate Aanenson
Community Development Director
Prepared by Nann Opheim