3 Approval of MinutesC..~tANHASSEN BOARD OF
ADJUSTMENTS AND APPPEALS
R/;GULAR MEETING
M~A_Y 20, 1997
Ct'airman Johnson called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
1VEZ, MBERS PRESENT: Willard Johnson, Carol Watson and Steve Berquist
STAFF PRESENT: Sharmin A1-Jaff, Planner II and Cynthia Kirchoff, Planner I
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A r-tEQUEST FOR A 6.5 FOOT VARIANCE FROM THE 25 FOOT FRONT YARD
SETBACK FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A DECK, RICK AND DEE ANN HALE, 600
F(X HILL ROAD.
Cynthia Kirchoff presented the staff report.
Dee Ann Hale stated that their home is located in Carver Beach where older homes exist closer to
the front property line than in newer subdivisions. She explained that their family activities take
place in the front yard. She stated that it is difficult to move large items in and out of the home
because the interior is poorly designed. She stated that a 14 foot'deck is a reasonable request and
a I0 foot deck is too small.
Stove Berquist stated that buying a house can be difficult as the layout may not be as you would
lik :. He asked if the deck would be used as an entry.
Doe Ann Hale stated that it would and that a large deck would make the space more usable. She
stazed that the deck would enhance and bring enjoyment to their property.
B~quist asked if building on the eastern side of the home would be feasible.
Doe Ann Hale stated that the builder did not recommend building on the east side or the back
door. Rick Hale stated that a 10.5 foot deck would still be usable, however, a 12 or 14 foot deck
wc~uld be better.
B~quist stated that the he would recommend that this deck maintain the neighborhood standards.
Rick Hale stated that others in the neighborhood have far worse conditions and encroachments.
Carol Watson asked if the applicant would want a 10.5 foot deck.
Rick Hale stated that they would.
W:llard Johnson stated that he agrees with the staff recommendation for a 3 foot variance from
the front yard setback.
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Watson moved, Johnson seconded a motion to deny the 6.5 foot variance from the front yard
setback for a deck and motioned to approve a 3 foot variance. The motions carried with a vote of
3 toO.
Berquist asked if a 12 foot deck would be appropriate.
Johnson stated that he does not believe that they should allow them to encroach further into the
setback.
Berquist stated that Fox Hill Road will not be widened in the future and that other cities have
relaxed setbacks for mature neighborhoods.
Watson stated that their goal is to improve Carver Beach by improving situations that occurred
prior to our current zoning ordinance. She stated that many of the properties in this area do not
meet current requirements.
Berquist stated that the 12 foot deck would lessen the chaos and make the deck more functional.
Johnson stated that allowing a 12 foot deck would mean setting new standards.
Watson stated that there is order to what the Board does and that they should keep in compliance
with the ordinance and maintain existing standards.
Rich Hale stated that many residents do not go through the process like they have done. Dee Ann
Hale stated that she was told by her neighbors to just build the deck without going through the
process or applying for a building permit. She stated that the neighbors do not care nor does she
care what the neighbors do with their property.
Watson stated that residents do care what their neighbors do when it comes time to sell their
home.
Johnson stated that they have removed decks that were constructed illegally.
Berquist stated that the Board is going through the process just like the applicant.
Sharmin A1-Jaff was questioned about a variance that was granted to the neighbor of the subject
property. She stated that this variance allowed them to build an addition 22 feet from the front
yard setback and was designed around pre-existing standards within 500 feet of the property as
required by ordinance.
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A --1EQUEST FOR A 1.6 FOOT VARIANCE FROM THE FRONT YARD SETBACK
F(~.R THE CONSTRUCTION OF A DECK, SCOTT WIRTH, 361 DEERFOOT TRAIL.
C3mthia Kirchoff presented the staff report.
Scott Wirth stated that he needs this variance as the difference between an 8 foot deck and a 10
foot is immense. He stated that the drainage easement is causing the steps to be smaller. He
stazed that the neighbor's deck does not meet the setback.
Ki,choff stated that all of the properties in that subdivision do meet the setbacks.
B~quist stated that the deck should be redesigned so that the stairs fit between the easement and
the deck.
Scott Wirth stated that the railing and the decking will be in the setback but the posts will not.
He stated that the lumber is only available in the 10 foot length. He stated that his lot is only 113
feet deep.
Sharmin A1-Jaff stated that all of the lots in the Sunny Slope subdivision have 20 foot front yard
set~acks because the lot depths do not conform to the ordinance. She said that the reduced front
yard setback was permitted to allow a larger buildable area on these parcels.
W'rth stated that many of the homes in the area have variances and that his deck will be 33 feet
frc'm the Lake Riley Boulevard.
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Watson asked if the applicant constructed this home.
w'rth stated that he did, but at that time he did not have the money to construct a deck. He stated
that his builder did not inform him that a deck would require a variance.
B~quist asked if they had changed the shape of the easement.
W:rth stated that they had with his consent and without compensation. He stated that the catch
basin in the easement is dangerous to small children. Berquist directed staff to research this
iss'Je.
Watson stated that this deck is very large and that there has to be a better design with the amount
of 3uildable area.
A1-Jaff stated that it is not a hardship not to have two sets of stairs on a deck.
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Watson stated that the applicant has an ample opportunity to construct a deck on this property.
Berquist moved, Watson seconded the motion to deny a 1.6 foot variance for the construction of
a deck. The motion carried with a vote of 3 to 0.
A REOUEST FOR AN 8.5 FOOT VARIANCE FROM THE FRONT YARD SETBACK
FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN OPEN PORCH~ KEN AND TONI LUCAS, 6735
NEZ PERCE DRIVE.
Cynthia Kirchoff presented that staff report.
Ken Lucas stated that the house is currently very plain and they would like to beautify it. He
stated that water problems are causing them to add a porch on to the front of their residence.
Toni Lucas stated that the style of the storm door increases the heat in the home during the
summer.
A1-Jaff stated that Mayor Mancino directed staff to investigate porch encroachments. She stated
that this will have to be done is a zoning ordinance amendment format and that staff has started
preliminary investigations. A1-Jaff said that the next step would be to present it to the Planning
Commission and City Council as an issue paper and if they felt comfortable with it, staff will
develop the ordinance. She also emphasized that the Planning Commission and City Council has
not reviewed this proposal and that staff believes the recommendation would be to allow porches
to encroach 10 feet into a front yard setback. A1-Jaff said that even if this ordinance was in
place, the applicant would still need a variance.
Berquist stated that this will improve the front entry of the residence. He stated that it is a
hardship if the front door is not usable.
Johnson stated that he changed his mind because the front elevation will make the home look
better.
Berquist moved, Johnson seconded the motion to approve an 8.5 foot variance from the front
yard setback for the construction of a porch with the following conditions:
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The applicant shall provide a registered land survey of the property or at a minimum, have a
registered land surveyor locate the front property line in the field.
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The applicant shall be aware that the variance was approved strictly for the construction of an
open porch. Any further additions or alterations to the front of the residence shall require a
separate variance application.
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The motion carded with a vote of 3 to 0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Berquist moved, Johnson seconded to approve the minutes of the
Board of Adjustments and Appeals dated April 14, 1997. Johnson and Berquist voted in favor,
W:atson abstained.
Chairman Johnson closed the public hearing.
Watson moved, Berquist seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in favor and the motion
carried. The meeting was adjourned at 8:00 p.m.
Prepared and Submitted by Cynthia Kirchoff
Planner I