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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
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Phone 952 227 1100
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MEMORANDUM
TO Todd Gerhardt City Manager
10 Paul Oehme Director of Public Works City Engineer FROM
DATE January 12 2009
SUBJ Review Groundwater Well Study and Water Quality Improvement
Options for Well 4 Project No 09 02
BACKGROUND
The City of Chanhassen has recently experienced several significant events
related to the adequacy and reliability of its potable drinking water supply In the
summer of 2007 two of its shallower wells Wells 5 and 6 experienced rapidly
decreasing water levels and became unusable They have not recovered since that
time and remain out of service Other wells in Chanhassen s and nearby Eden
Prairie s well supply network have seen declining water levels in recent years
which translates into declining yields
The Metropolitan Council Environmental Services has been working on a
regional water supply model and master plan that identifies issues each city in the
area must consider when planning water appropriations Part of that planning
process suggested the possibility of significant additional drawdown in the
aquifers supplying Chanhassen and the potential to impact nearby natural
resources with future withdrawals Significant additional drawdown in the City s
main aquifer could result in the loss of additional wells
Finally Well 4 has elevated levels of radium a naturally occurring contaminant
which are within the Minnesota Department of Health guildeline levels however
higher than what we would like to see
As a result of these issues the City has undertaken this well siting study and water
quality improvement options for Well 4
OVERVIEW
The purpose of this study was to guide the City in planning out its future water
supply in general and provide specific guidance for future well locations in its
East and West wellfields that will be able to supply water to the city as it grows
The planning period for this study runs to ultimate build out of the city water
system which will occur when the city reaches ultimate population The following
specific elements were addressed in this study
Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow
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Aquifer Yield Assessment Provide a qualitative assessment of whether or not the Jordan
aquifer alone can supply all of the city s future water needs Provide a similar qualitative
assessment of the Franconia Ironton Galesville FIG aquifer s ability to augment the
City s current well network and serve as an average day water source
Well Locations The study is intended to help the City estimate the amount of new wells
necessary to meet peak summer demands and plan for the approximate locations of new
wells in and near the two existing wellfields while also meeting safe yield requirements
listed in the State Rules This includes an evaluation that will take into account receding
water levels that may occur in the Chanhassen wells as appropriations in the area
mcrease
Potential Contaminants For this element a preliminary review of MPCA and related
resources will be conducted to locate known potential sources of contamination located in
or near enough to Chanhassen to be of concern This is limited to known releases and
documented groundwater contamination in the aquifers of concern
Well 4 Water Quality Improvements A recommendation for water quality
improvements
RECOMMENDATIONS
Aquifer Yield Assessment After performing the modeling and reviewing past studies the
following conclusions were reached regarding the aquifers in the city
1 The shallow sand and gravel aquifer of Wells 5 6 cannot be considered a viable
source for the future unless some form of augmentation is planned such as aquifer
storage and recovery this is a process where water from another source is treated and
then pumped down into the aquifer and stored for later reuse Well 11 is also in the
gravel aquifer however currently has 200 ft of static water level over the pump
While the city will continue to use Chanhassen Well 11 the City will need to monitor
this well closely to see ifit will be a long term viable municipal source of water
2 The Prairie du Chien Jordan aquifer appears to be able to supply the City the water it
needs both now and into the future but localized drawdown conditions at specific
wells will continue to be a problem New wells will be needed to meet future
demands and those wells should be sited carefully and as far apart as reasonable to
limit interference Due to the trends of lowering water levels it is recommended that
the City pursue wells in another aquifer as a hedge against potential future problems
It is recommended that the City consider at least one FIG well in each major
wellfield If drawdown continues to be a concern in the Jordan then it is possible that
additional FIG wells could be added as needed to augment the City supply
3 The Franconia Ironton Galesville aquifer could not be studied in depth for this
evaluation since little geological information is available about the aquifer in this
area however a preliminary review of the data available suggest that the aquifer
should be able to support two 500 to 600 gpm wells even considering future
drawdowns likely to be caused by growing communities to the west of Chanhassen
The modeling performed for this report included a preliminary look at the FIG
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aquifer Model results show static water levels at least 300 feet of water above the
top of the FIG aquifer in most all parts of Chanhassen even after drawdown from
future growth is considered Even with the poor yields common in the FIG yields of
500 to 600 gpm or more could be expected depending on specific local aquifer
characteristics Questions remain concerning the properties of the FIG aquifer in the
Chanhassen area and the degree of hydraulic connection between this aquifer and the
overlying Prairie du Chien Jordan aquifer which would need to be addressed before
committing to municipal wells in the FIG aquifer For this reason before any FIG
well is considered a testing well should be drilled and a pump test should be
completed
Well Locations Five new wells will be required to provide firm capacity at peak summer
demand in 2030 Based on this report an additional well may be necessary between 2025 and
2030 to provide firm capacity at peak summer demands This new well should be added into the
2009 rate structure between years 2025 and 2030 A total of 14 potential well sites were
reviewed for this report The groundwater modeling suggests that each of the 14 potential well
sites will likely be able to support a new 1 000 gpm Prairie du Chien Jordan well A map of the
well sites is shown on the attached figure Sites 2 and 10 are very near the eroded edge of the
Jordan Sandstone If those sites are chosen exploratory borings should be performed in advance
of the well drilling to ensure that they are viable sites Sites that performed very well include 2
7 8 and 10 Sites that performed well include 5 6 12 and 14 Sites that performed adequately
include 1 3 4 9 this is the proposed Well 14 site 11 and 13
Chanhassen Well 4 Water Quality Improvements and Future Well 14 Planning Two
alternatives related to the treatment of Chanhassen Well 4 raw water were detailed in this report
The first option is to pipe the raw water from the well to the East Treatment Plant and the other
option is to construct an on site package plant for treatment A cursory review was also
completed of sealing the most probable geological area which is most likely causing the water
quality problems This option was not recommended or reviewed further in any great detail
because it would most likely reduce the production of the well as much as half Converting this
well to an ASR well was also reviewed but not recommended because of government agency
reviews and approvals that would be required and because of concerns for likelihood of success
Drilling a new well was also considered but deemed not cost effective
Based on this analysis it was determined more cost effective to connect Chanhassen Well 4 to
the East Treatment Plant than to construct an on site treatment plant for iron manganese and
radium removal Piping Well 4 to the East Treatment Plant would cost an estimated 700 000 to
920 000 while constructing and on site package treatment plant would cost approximately 1 1
to 1 5 million A benefit of constructing a pipe from Well 4 to the East Water Treatment Plant
is this pipe can also be used for a future well along the corridor
Attachments
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Barr Engineering Company
4700 West 77th Street Minneapolis MN 55435 4803
Phone 952 832 2600 Fax 952 832 2601 www barr com An EEO Employer
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Technical Memorandum
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Project
Paul Oehme City of Chanhassen
Ray Wuolo Brian LeMon and Katy Lindstrom Barr Engineering Co
Results of Well Location Screening Modeling
December 22 2008
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Background
The City of Chanhassen has recently experienced several significant events related to the adequacy
and reliability of its potable drinking water supply In the summer of 2007 two of its shallower wells
Wells 5 and 6 experienced rapidly decreasing water levels and became unusable They have not
recovered since that time and remain out of service These wells supplied the recently completed
East Water Treatment Plant so their loss not only reduced total supply but also the treated supply
which was the highest quality water produced in the City
Even before these wells failed the City s wells were operating near capacity during peak summer
pumping Other wells in Chanhassen s and nearby Eden Prairie s well supply network have also seen
declining water levels in recent years In addition to this two of the City s remaining wells have
other issues that must be addressed to ensure long term reliability Well 4 has elevated levels of
radium a naturally occurring contaminant that occasionally exceed water quality standards In
addition to this during a recent attempt to rehabilitate Well 3 an old drill bit was found to be stuck in
the hole which limits the work that can be done to the well and in turn lowers its reliability
Finally the Metropolitan Council Environmental Services has been working on a regional water
supply master plan that identifies issues each city in the area must consider when planning water
appropriations Part of that planning process suggested the possibility of significant additional
draw down in the aquifers supplying Chanhassen and the potential to impact nearby natural resources
with future withdrawals Significant additional drawdown in the City s main aquifer could result in
the loss of additional wells As a result of these issues the City has undertaken this well siting study
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Ray Wuolo Brian LeMon and Katy Lindstrom Barr Engineering Co
Results of Well Location Screening Modeling
December 22nd 2008
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Introduction
The purpose of this study is to assist the City of Chanhassen in planning out its future water supply in
general and provide specific guidance for future well locations in its East and West Well Fields that
will be able to supply water to the city as it grows The planning period for this study runs to ultimate
build out of the city water system which will occur when the city reaches ultimate population The
following specific elements will be addressed in this study
Well Locations The study is intended to help the City plan the approximate locations of new
wells in and near the two existing well fields that will meet ultimate water demands while
also meeting safe yield requirements listed in the State Rules This includes an evaluation that
will take into account receding water levels that may occur in the Chanhassen wells as
appropriations in the area increase
Potential Contaminants For this element a preliminary review of MPCA and related
resources will be conducted to locate known potential sources of contamination located in or
near enough to Chanhassen to be of concern This is limited to known releases and
documented groundwater contamination in the aquifers of concern
Well 4 and Well 14 Planning Provide specific guidance related to connecting existing
Well 4 to the city s East Water Treatment Plant along a route that includes a site for future
Well 14
Aquifer Yield Assessment Provide a qualitative assessment of whether or not the Jordan
aquifer alone can supply all of the city s future water needs Provide a similar qualitative
assessment of the Franconia Ironton Galesville FIG aquifer s ability to augment the City s
current well network and serve as a backup supply source
In order to cover these items the report will be broken down into four main sections including
I Water System Constraints
II Well Siting Modeling
III Existing Well 4 and Future Well 14 Considerations
IV Conclusions and Recommendations
The first section Water System Constraints will briefly define the conditions of the existing and
future system for which the well siting modeling will be done This section will include a summary of
the wells that are currently utilized by the city followed by a discussion of known aquifer
contamination that might impact well locations This section will conclude with a look forward that
will summarize the future average and peak day demand that will be used in modeling Barr will use
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Ray Wuolo Brian LeMon and Katy Lindstrom Barr Engineering Co
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data provided by the City in the current comprehensive planning effort to identify an annual and
instantaneous amount of water that the City will need to appropriate in order to adequately supply
water to its residents and other costumers
The second section Well Siting Modeling will describe the modeling work that went into the well
siting portion of this effort This section will include a summary of model purpose and scope
modeling assumptions and the model refinement effort This will be followed by a description of the
model runs including a simulation of the ultimate average pumping conditions and a simulation of the
projected maximum water The section will conclude with a summary of the modeling results and
cover the qualitative assessment of the Jordan aquifer Barr will use the recently completed metro
area groundwater model prepared for the Metropolitan Council to estimate the impacts of new wells
on the Jordan aquifer in Chanhassen and to site wells in the city s two well fields
The third section Existing Well 4 and Future Well 14 Considerations will deal specifically with
connecting existing Well 4 to the East Treatment Plant Included in this section will be a qualitative
assessment of the treatment needed at Well 4 along with cost estimates comparing an on site package
plant to connecting the well to the existing East Treatment Plant
The fourth and final section Conclusions and Recommendations will summarize the findings in
the previous sections in the form of recommendations of action that the City of Chanhassen should
take A summary of the aquifer yield assessment mentioned above will be included in this section of
the memorandum
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Ray Wuolo Brian LeMon and Katy Lindstrom Barr Engineering Co
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Water System Constraints
In any well siting plan it is critical to identify constraints that will shape the effort A constraint is
defined as a condition that must be met in order for a proposed well site to be considered The goal of
this effort is to identify well sites which will meet these constraints As the need arises for a new
well the City can then select from these well sites using project specific criteria that might not be
known at this time or might change from what they are today The constraints that will be used in
determining well sites that will be modeled include
Only well sites proposed by the city will be considered
Wells will only be modeled in the Jordan Aquifer
Only current city supply wells considered reliable will be used in future projections
Existing wells will be modeled at sand free A WW A standards sustainable pumping rates
This means the starting point for well pumping rates in the model may not match what the
City normally considers the rate for a given well to be This will be further explained below
The total yield of the wells modeled must equal the ultimate peak day demand for the city
The configuration of the future well fields must be set up to feed two water treatment plants
the existing East Treatment Plant and the proposed West Treatment Plant
Existing Wells
The city currently has infrastructure for 12 wells in place including Wells 2 througb 13 Well 1 was
the City s original well and has since been abandoned and sealed All of the existing wells are
completed in one of two aquifers the regional Prairie du Chien Jordan aquifer or a shallower local
sand and gravel aquifer located in the glacial drift Two of the wells completed in this shallower sand
and gravel aquifer Wells 5 and 6 are no longer in service since water levels in them dropped to a
point where they could not be used in the summer of 2007 A third well located in this same aquifer
Well 11 will be excluded from long term consideration since it cannot be considered a reliable
source given what happened to Wells 5 and 6 In addition to this Well 3 was recently partially
rehabilitated and found to have an old drilling bit stuck down in the open hole limiting its sand free
pumping rate to 800 gpm The remainder of the wells produce water at various rates as shown in the
Table 1 Note that there are two different rates listed the Comprehensive Plan Rate and the Modeling
Rate This is done simply to maintain consistency with other planning efforts The Comprehensive
Plan Rate is that rate listed in Appendix D of the City s current Comprehensive Plan which is the
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Department of Natural Resources Division of Waters and Metropolitan Council Water Emergency
and Conservation Plans work sheet The Modeling Rate is that rate used in the computer model for
calculating drawdown and well interference and assessing the viability of future well sites These
rates are nominal well production rates that represent a reasonable estimate of anticipated long term
sustainable rates at the wells The rates are allowed to vary within the model depending upon the
water level within the aquifer so it is not critical that they represent the exact current actual well
capacity Furthermore actual well production rates vary depending upon a number of circumstances
including but not limited to hydrogeologic well interference hydraulic pump interference
operational settings weather patterns such as drought and the condition of the pumping equipment
Table I summarizes the well rates and notes which water plant they would serve The different water
plants are further described below in the Future System Description subsection of this memo
Table 1
Existing Well Capacities
Comprehensive Modeling Plant
Well A uifer Plan Rate Rate Served
2 Jordan 850 1 000 m East Side
3 Prairie du Chien Jordan 800 m 800 m West Side
4 Prairie du Chien Jordan and 950 gpm 1 000 gpm East Side
FIG
5 Drift 0 0 m East Side
6 Drift 0 0 m East Side
7 Jordan 1 100 1 000 m West Side
8 Jordan 1 000 1 000 m West Side
9 Jordan 1 000 1 000 m West Side
10 Jordan 1 000 1 000 m East Side
11 Drift 1 000 0 m East Side
12 Prairie du Chien Jordan 1 000 1 000 m East Side
13 Prairie du Chien Jordan 900 1 000 m East Side
In addition to the wells owned and operated by Chanhassen the City also has permission to use a
well owned by a school on the west side of town under emergency conditions The City considered
converting it to a permanent well when Wells 5 and 6 failed However it was subsequently
discovered that it was not constructed to current code and would require significant costly and time
consuming repairs to convert the well into a permanent City well Because of this efforts have been
focused on siting new wells and adding treatment to Well 4 to bring it back into regular use
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Water Levels
Water levels in all of the City s wells have declined over the years Similar declines in water levels
have been observed in nearby communities such as Eden Prairie Some of the declines in
Chanhassen s wells have resulted in significant problems including the failure of Wells 5 and 6 and
the need to deepen pump settings in other wells Most of the reasons for the declines are related to
increasing population and the climate As a population grows so does its demand for water When
dry cycles hit the region the increased population produces higher and higher peak demands during
summer months when lawn irrigation is greatest Whenever these dry cycles run for extended periods
the source aquifer becomes more stressed than it in the past due to the greater demand Levels in
individual wells can drop down to the pump causing reduced yield or even pump failure
In the past water levels would drop during heavy summer use then rebound to normal levels in the
winter when demand diminished During these times winter water levels would be close enough to
that of the previous year so as not to raise any concern In recent years even winter water levels have
been lower than those recorded in previous winters Some of this may be attributable to recent
drought conditions which have reduced aquifer recharge However the significant increase in
population and related increase in water use has likely been the most significant cause
The water level fluctuation in Chanhassen is not entirely unexpected given the increase in water
demand and the recent drought conditions However because of the proximity of the Prairie du Chien
to the surface in Chanhassen the fluctuation is of greater concern since it is resulting in water levels
closer to the top of the source aquifer and is often close to pump setting elevations There are three
things that are of concern first the trend has been decreasing levels year over year second there is
evidence that since about the year 2000 the magnitude of fluctuation between summer and winter has
been more severe and third the summer drop has been bad enough to require lowering pump settings
and in some cases is approaching the lowest levels that the well can support All of the wells lowest
readings have all occurred in the last eight years and Wells 5 and 6 failed during this time
The groundwater flow model used in the well siting work is described later in this report and was
calibrated to existing data which shows the fluctuations The City should continue to carefully
monitor water levels noting monthly and annual minimum and maximum static and pumping water
levels for each well This data should be reviewed regularly to determine if water levels are
continuing to decline to a point where additional action will be needed
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Known Contamination
The city has one well with a known contamination issue related to a naturally occurring contaminant
In the past Well 4 has tested positive for radium The regulatory limit for this contaminant is 5 pCi l
and the well has tested as high as 6 8 pCi l Radium is naturally occurring and usually associated with
sandstone aquifers In the Metro area it is more commonly found in the Mt Simon Hinckley
formation but occasionally shows up in some Jordan wells It can also occur in portions of the FIG
aquifer and the open hole portion of this well extends into that formation Past studies of this
contaminant show no discernable pattern to the occurrence of this contaminant Because of this well
sites will not be screened to limit the possibility of encountering this contaminant
Maps showing the potential contaminant source inventory are shown on Figures 1 and 2 There are no
significant issues that would result in eliminating any of the potential well sites considered in this
study The only caveat to this is for potential Well sites 3 4 11 and 12 which are in the northwestern
part of the City down gradient and relatively close to several MPCA multi sites Should one of these
sites be selected for a future well Barr recommends that the status of those sites be verified If
concern arises then a groundwater sample should be collected and tested prior to committing to a new
well Figure 1 shows the potential contaminant sources with respect to the city s existing wells while
Figure 2 shows the same information with respect to the potential well sites This map is a
compilation of known and reported contamination sources It is a compilation of the regulatory data
that are readily available Barr Engineering Co cannot guarantee that the aquifers under investigation
are free of contamination However it is important to note that the City has completed a well head
protection plan as required by the State and according to City staff none of the wells were considered
vulnerable This does not guarantee that Chanhassen s wells cannot be contaminated from surface
sources but it does suggest that contamination is not likely This is largely due to the significant
layer of clay present in this area that separates the surface from the source aquifers
Future Average and Peak Day Demand
The well siting model utilizes both the average and peak day demand for Chanhassen as well as
surrounding communities The Metropolitan Council Environmental Services has compiled projected
water demand data for all of the communities in the metropolitan area The data is used in the model
to represent the water demand for each of the surrounding communities for the year 2030 The
ultimate day demand data for the city of Chanhassen was taken from the water section of City s
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current Comprehensive Plan In that document the ultimate peak day was determined to be
17 3 MGD or roughly 12 400 gpm The peaking factor used in planning was 3 1 therefore the average
day demand is projected to be 5 8 MGD or 4 000 gpm While not identical they are in line with what
MCES is projecting for ultimate demand in Chanhassen in the year 2050
Future System Description
The current plan for Chanhassen is to construct a second water treatment plant on the west side of
town The plan is for the current East Side treatment plant and the Future West Side treatment plant
to each produce 6 000 gpm of finished water The well siting modeling effort recognizes this plan by
dedicating each existing well to one of these two plants Under this plan the current wells can supply
a total of 5 000 gpm of water to the East Plant assuming that Well 4 is connected to the plant and
Well 11 is excluded from future consideration and 3 800 gpm to the future West Side plant Under
the final three modeling scenarios future wells are modeled that approximately fill out the
remaining supply to each plant up to at least 6 000 gpm
Well Siting Modeling
Purpose and Scope
This section of the technical memorandum summarizes the results of groundwater flow modeling to
verify if the proposed future water supply well locations provided by the City of Chanhassen will be
able to supply water for the city to ultimate build out The City of Chanhassen provided Barr
Engineering Co with a list of 14 possible well locations for consideration which are shown on Figure
2 These are sites that are either already owned by the City or are potentially available for purchase
These 14 sites were evaluated in the newly developed Metro Model groundwater flow model
developed by Barr for the Metropolitan Council by using the model to simulate pumping conditions
during peak regional demand periods that the Metropolitan Council projects for the year 2030 For
this study the proposed wells at all 14 sites were assumed to be completed in the Prairie du Chien
Group and or Jordan Sandstone Prairie du Chien Jordan aquifer with construction similar to the
recently installed Chanhassen Wells 12 and 13 However the model does have the capability of
evaluating wells in other aquifers such as the FIG aquifer
The sustainable capacity or yield of a well is dependent upon how the well is constructed and the
hydrogeologic conditions surrounding the well e g the permeability of the aquifer The sustainable
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capacity of a well is also dependent on the available drawdown which is controlled by the regional
groundwater levels in the aquifer Regional groundwater levels can change over time in response to
changing climatic conditions but the primary cause of changes in regional groundwater levels in the
metro area is increased pumping by municipal wells As population increases water demand
increases along with the installation of more high capacity wells and more pumping The so called
cone of depression of each pumping well intersects the cone of depression of other wells causing
an additive decrease in water levels
The Metropolitan Council has made projections of future water demand on a community by
community basis for the Seven County Metropolitan Area on la year increments to the year 2050
These demand projections include both average daily demand and maximum peak summer demand
Some water conservation is factored into these estimates In general demand is projected to be near
maximums by 2030 this is the date that is often used to evaluate full build out conditions in the
metro area although this may vary from community to community For this study we used projected
average and peak demands at 2030 to estimate pumping conditions for the communities in Hennepin
and Carver Counties those areas that most likely will have a meaningful impact on Chanhassen s
groundwater availability in the future As noted above Chanhassen s pumping conditions were set
based on Section 9 of the City s current Comprehensive Plan
The analysis described herein uses the following assumptions concerning future water demand
The simulated condition for evaluating demand limitations is a 2 week peak summer
condition in 2030 during which all existing and proposed city wells are assumed be running
continuously
Chanhassen Well 11 completed in the glacial drift aquifer is assumed to not be available to
meet future water demands
Chanhassen Well 4 is assumed to be pumping and connected to the East Water Treatment
plant
The maximum pumping rate for existing and future wells is 1 000 gallons per minute gpm
This rate is assumed to relate to well construction and aquifer permeability The model
analysis further imposes a potential demand restriction that reduces available draw down due
to regional pumping
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The minimum allowable water level during pumping of any of the existing or future
Chanhassen wells is equal to 10 feet above either the top of the pump intake or the top of the
Prairie du Chien Group The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources MDNR does not
permit pumping levels to drop below the top of a confined aquifer and generally requires a
buffer of about 10 percent of the aquifer thickness above the top of the aquifer Note that
MCES is in the process of developing additional Water Supply Issue Responses that will
shape future well siting in the Metropolitan area They are not yet final and only became
available in draft form recently The implication of those issue responses is not accounted for
in this modeling run but will affect the City when new wells are requested
In the modeling analysis an existing or future well is allowed to pump at a continuous rate of
1 000 gpm until such time that the pumping water level in the aquifer drops to a
predetermined point At this time the model computes a new pumping rate for the well that is
less than 1 000 gpm This continues in an effort to simulate operations that would occur to
maintain a safe water level in the wells as pumping water levels approach the pump intake or
the top of the aquifer If the model predicts a pumping rate that is less than 500 gpm the well
is shut off and pumping is set to zero This last condition is imposed with the assumption that
if conditions only permit a well to operate at rates less than 500 gpm the well location
probably is inadequate
Five new Jordan wells pumping at 1 000 gpm each will be required along with existing
wells pumping at 1 000 gpm each to provide firm pumping capacity at peak summer demand
in 2030 That is a total of 13 800 gpm of supply or l2 800 gpm of firm supply which meets
the peak projected demand of 12 400 gpm 17 3 MOD Ultimately a sixth new well may be
needed to ensure firm capacity to each treatment plant
1 Assuming a 100 efficient well
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Overview of Methods
Model Refinement
The northwest sub regional model of the Metropolitan Council s Metro Model was used as a
starting point for this evaluation The finite difference grid for this model was refined in the vicinity
of Chanhassen to improve numerical accuracy for this evaluation Model parameters e g aquifer
thickness permeability etc remained unchanged
The model covers all of Hennepin and Carver Counties as well as portions of Wright County and a
small portion of Scott County that is adjacent to the Minnesota River Other areas of the metro region
were not included because the Mississippi and Minnesota Rivers are significant hydrologic barriers to
flow for the Prairie du Chien Jordan aquifer The model includes layers for all major aquifers and
aquifers from the ground surface down to the deepest regional aquifer the Mt Simon Hinckley
aquifer As part of developing this model for the Metropolitan Council the model underwent
substantial calibration
The model was first used to simulate current pumping conditions A steady state simulation of
current pumping conditions was performed using annualized average pumping rates for 2006 The
purpose of this simulation was to 1 verify the appropriateness of the model grid s refinement and
2 provide some baseline for comparing results of future conditions
Simulation of 2030 Average Pumping Conditions
Before proceeding with the peak period simulation average pumping conditions for 2030 needed to
be simulated The simulation of 2030 average pumping conditions provides starting groundwater
levels for a 2 week simulation period of maximum 2030 demand which is the primary indicator of
how future wells will perform This required assigning new pumping rates for the wells in the
surrounding communities based on projected demands estimated by the Metropolitan Council For
purposes of this simulation not every community in the model domain needed to be considered
only those in close proximity to Chanhassen
The Metropolitan Council s estimates for future demand are listed on Table 2 Some communities
such as Edina Eden Prairie and Minnetonka are projected to experience slight reductions in average
demand in 2030 compared to 2004 and almost no change in peak demand The reduced demand
projections made by the Metropolitan Council reflect some assumed conservation measures Growing
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communities such as Chaska Minnetrista and Victoria are projected to have substantially increased
average and peak day demands in 2030
Table 2
Average and Peak Water Demand MGD for Communities Near Chanhassen in 2004 and 2030
from Metropolitan Council
2004 Avg Day 2004 Max Day 2030 Avg Day 2030 Max Day
Community Demand MGD Demand MGD Demand MGD Demand MGD
Chanhassen 2 643 5 90 5 74 17 8
Chaska 2 819 9 217 4 256 14 089
Eden Prairie 8 422 25 131 7 828 25 2
Edina 7 345 21 772 7 179 21 888
Hopkins 2 605 4 673 2 835 5 086
Long Lake 0 102 0 842 0 123 0 98
Maple Plain 0 281 0 574 0 35 0 715
Minnetonka 7 999 22 119 7 483 21 48
Minnetonka Beach 0 077 0 267 0 075 0 264
Minnetrista 0 211 0 646 1 351 3 794
Mound 0 698 3 569 0 741 3 816
Plymouth 9 66 26 257 9 653 27 475
Richfield 3 386 7 23 4 424 9 447
Shorewood 0 496 2 195 0 508 1 559
Spring Park 0 219 0 391 0 268 0 477
S1 Bonifacius 0 235 0 626 0 294 0 783
S1 Louis Park 6 115 11 554 7 137 13 485
Victoria 0 48 1 979 1 865 9 741
Wayzata 0 847 2 631 0 872 2 706
Metropolitan Council projection
Data from Chanhassen s 2008 Comprehensive Plan
These are ultimate demand numbers not necessarily 2030
It is worth noting that the Prairie du Chien Jordan aquifer is not present in Minnetrista and only a
very small portion of Jordan is present in the southernmost tip of Victoria and the western part of
Chaska The Jordan Sandstone that is present in these locations is disconnected from the Jordan in
which Chanhassen s wells are completed Minnetrista and Victoria will have to rely heavily on the
drift and FIG for their future supply This is significant because the majority of the other
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communities near Chanhassen that do rely upon the Jordan Sandstone for their water supply are
already at or very close to ultimate build out meaning that there is a limited amount of new
appropriations expected from the Prairie du Chien Jordan aquifer in the future from cities other than
Chanhassen
For lower growth communities future demand will likely be met using existing wells For growing
communities future demand will likely require the installation of new wells Some communities may
have water supply plans that identify future well locations but many may not In either case it is
beyond the scope of this study to include new well locations for communities other than Chanhassen
into the model to meet 2030 demand The approach taken in this evaluation was to apply a percentage
increase over existing pumping rates for each existing well in a community in order to meet 2030
average and maximum day demands This approach assumes that existing wells will be able to meet
future demands an assumption that is likely not true for many growing communities However this
assumption is both useful and valid for the groundwater model and accounts for the effects of future
pumping since the total supply is still coming from the source aquifer of interest
For the average 2030 pumping conditions it was assumed that the existing wells not including
Well 11 would be the only wells pumping to meet average demand for Chanhassen This was done
to establish initial groundwater levels for simulating a 2 week period of maximum demand This
approach also will focus future demand on the existing wells to help identify if any of them are likely
to be a problem in the future as new wells are added The 2030 average demand conditions were
simulated as a steady state
Simulation of Maximum Water Use for 2030
Projected 2030 peak demands for communities near Chanhassen are listed in Table 2 Peak demand is
typically substantially higher than average demand Most communities design their well systems to
meet peak day demands Therefore during most of the year communities have excess well capacity
Peak demands typically take place during the summer when irrigation is most prevalent If these peak
demands were simulated in the model as occurring continuously i e simulated as a steady state
condition the results would likely be a gross overestimate of draw down and well interference
effects Simulating peak pumping as occurring over a short duration e g days or weeks is more
realistic and captures the phenomenon of taking groundwater out of aquifer storage This approach
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results in more a more accurate representation of conditions in the aquifer showing the significant
drawdown that does occur during short term peak pumping but less draw down over the long term
when pumping returns to average levels For this evaluation we assumed the following
Groundwater levels predicted for average 2030 demand conditions are the starting condition
for the simulation
For a 2 week period pumping would be increased in the surrounding communities to equal
peak demand projections for 2030 Pumping for the entire community would be distributed
over the existing wells in these communities
A specific storage value of 0 000135 is assumed for the aquifer system and a specific yield
value of 0 25 is assumed These are values obtained from a controlled aquifer test in
Lakeville and are believed to be representative of the Prairie du Chien Jordan aquifer in the
metro area
Following this modeling a long term peak pumping scenario will be run to estimate the
ability of the aquifer to sustain peak pumping over extended periods This will be discussed
in a separate section below
Both existing city of Chanhassen wells and potential future city of Chanhassen wells were simulated
using the Multi Node Well package MNW in MODFLOW2000 the groundwater flow code used in
this study MNW wells allow for the setting of a pumping rate along with the minimum acceptable
pumping level and the minimum acceptable pumping rate below which the well is shut off By
using MNW wells in the model the effects of regional lowering of groundwater levels on pumping
rates in the Chanhassen wells are better simulated Six scenarios each featuring combinations of five
potential future well sites were simulated as summarized on Table 3
Scenarios I and 2 concentrate pumping stress on the east well field Scenario 3 concentrates demand
on the west well field and Scenarios 4 through 6 divide the demand between both well fields This
split of demand will help in estimating the potential impacts to each well field by in effect over
stressing that field in the first three scenarios The final three represent a more true division of
demand that would occur to feed the existing East Treatment Plant and the future west plant
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Condition Pumping Rates
Current 2008
2030 Average 2030 Average
Scenario 1 E 1000 gpm
Scenario 2 E 1000 gpm
Scenario 3 W 1000 gpm
Scenario 4 B 1000 gpm
Scenario 5 B 1000 gpm
Scenario 6 B 1000 gpm
lExcept Chanhassen 11
Table 3
Summary of Model Scenarios
Wells Operating during Simulation
All Existing Chanhassen Wells 1
All Existing Chanhassen Wells 1
All Existing Chanhassen Wells Site 1 Site 7 Site 8 Site 9 Site 14
All Existing Chanhassen Wells Site 5 Site 6 Site 7 Site 8 Site 14
All Existing Chanhassen Wells Site 2 Site 3 Site 10 Site 11 Site 12
All Existing Chanhassen Wells Site 1 Site 2 Site 5 Site 12 Site 14
All Existing Chanhassen Wells Site 4 Site 6 Site 7 Site 9 Site 10
All Existing Chanhassen Wells 1 Site 2 Site 3 Site 6 Site 11 Site 13
The MNW package s specified minimum level for terminating pumping is shown on Table 4 The
limiting values for all wells in the modeling runs were determined to be approximately 10 feet above
the top of the Prairie du Chien Group Modeling results are reported relative to these limiting water
levels The locations of the potential future wells labeled Site 1 Site 2 etc are shown on Figure 3
Model simulations were conducted for six different pumping scenarios These were simulated using a
2 week transient model with regional wells operating at their respective projected peak pumping rates
for 2030 Results for the transient models were taken at the end of the two week period to represent
the maximum expected draw down at the wells The peak rates were modeled for six scenarios during
which Chanhassen s existing wells and five different potential wells were each pumping at
1 000 gpm Pumping for Chanhassen 11 was set to zero for all model simulations
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Table 4
Limiting Water Levels assigned in the Multi Node Well Package
Well 10 Limiting Water Level 1t
Chanhassen 2 731 86
Chanhassen 3 694 09
Chanhassen 4 667 88
Chanhassen 7 732 84
Chanhassen 8 694 06
Chanhassen 9 681 56
Chanhassen 10 750 89
Chanhassen 12 731 86
Chanhassen 13 738 88
Site 1 732 94
Site 2 644 69
Site 3 747 54
Site 4 764 11
Site 5 727 03
Site 6 720 14
Site 7 648 29
Site 8 643 37
Site 9 692 26
Site 10 659 45
Site 11 747 54
Site 12 736 55
Site 13 727 69
Site 14 707 68
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Results
The results of this modeling evaluation predict that the aquifer will be able to meet the water demand
for the city of Chanhassen under current conditions average projected conditions for the year 2030
and peak projected conditions for the year 2030 but that concerns related to individual wells do exist
Both the existing Chanhassen pumping wells and potential future wells were analyzed Table 5 shows
the pumping levels in the wells under these conditions relative to the limiting water level for each
well Wells with head levels in bold red are wells that were running during the given scenario
Positive values indicate the pumping level for a given well was above the limiting water level and the
well was able to supply the pumping demand simulated 1 000 gpm for future wells Negative values
would indicate the water level in a given well fell below the limiting water level and flow from the
well was terminated there are no wells with predicted negative water levels Figures 4 through 7
depict the information contained in Table 5 The water levels predicted by the model are for the
groundwater immediately outside of the casing of a given pumping well No well is 100 percent
efficient and as water enters the open hole or screen there is some additional head loss that will result
in a slightly lower level in each of the wells than what is shown in Table 5
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Table 5
Simulated head levels relative to limiting water level
2030 Scenario Scenario Scenario Scenario Scenario Scenario
WelllD Current Average 1 2 3 4 5 6
Chanhassen 2 101 96 92 39 83 62 83 64 84 39 84 14 84 16 84 36
Chanhassen 3 151 16 144 65 133 83 133 90 132 17 133 56 133 49 132 58
Chanhassen 4 154 20 148 05 131 27 132 98 135 05 133 30 133 34 134 88
Chanhassen 7 124 88 116 97 110 00 110 01 106 05 108 23 109 77 107 80
Chanhassen 8 162 74 152 08 137 73 137 74 136 29 136 95 137 57 136 83
Chanhassen 9 166 11 152 84 136 14 136 23 134 63 135 90 135 17 135 62
Chanhassen 10 82 39 61 71 42 75 42 80 43 61 43 25 43 40 43 59
Chanhassen 12 107 71 96 97 90 46 90 42 90 97 90 82 90 76 90 92
Chanhassen 13 93 37 82 52 75 16 75 18 75 51 75 35 75 42 75 50
Site 1 106 98 103 65 93 92 104 68 105 38 95 05 104 52 104 54
Site 2 209 61 206 79 206 73 206 73 193 91 194 24 206 46 194 20
Site 3 122 89 119 45 120 56 120 56 108 69 120 09 120 54 109 14
Site 4 94 83 91 19 93 01 93 04 92 53 92 90 88 01 92 66
Site 5 129 82 126 56 128 81 89 80 128 89 92 64 126 07 126 11
Site 6 136 00 132 70 135 06 93 06 135 11 132 42 95 76 95 79
Site 7 194 14 190 09 164 43 164 86 192 49 191 80 167 80 192 39
Site 8 195 31 191 02 152 52 153 01 193 23 192 15 190 49 193 13
Site 9 136 51 133 40 114 64 133 17 134 16 133 15 115 91 133 50
Site 10 182 84 179 79 179 69 179 75 155 12 179 44 155 43 179 32
Site 11 108 65 103 96 104 01 104 04 87 63 103 38 103 59 88 28
Site 12 126 99 122 61 123 24 123 24 112 64 113 63 123 08 122 23
Site 13 107 15 104 33 103 69 105 31 105 46 104 53 104 72 93 31
Site 14 120 83 116 76 103 00 103 68 117 95 104 57 117 10 11 7 86
Pumping wells are indicated by bold red numbers
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All wells were able to operate at their assigned pumping rates without falling below the limiting
water level In particular Chanhassen 8 performed particularly well On average wells maintained
pumping water levels around 122 feet above the limiting water level The 2030 average pumping
water levels in all wells remained essentially the same compared to the current imposed pumping
rates The 2030 peak pumping conditions however resulted in somewhat lower pumping water
levels for wells that were pumping during a given simulation compared to Current or 2030 Average
pumping conditions It is important to note that the predicted water levels are for the groundwater
levels in the aquifer immediately adjacent to the well water levels in the well can expect to be lower
as a result of well losses that lead to less than 100 efficient wells
Sites 1 through 14 are potential future wells and did not show the same pumping water level drop for
2030 peak conditions unless they were turned on for a given scenario For example pumping was
simulated for Site 5 in Scenarios 2 and 4 Figure 6 shows lower pumping water levels for Site 5
during these scenarios when compared to the Current and 2030 Average conditions The fact that
wells that did not have imposed pumping rates showed negligible drawdown indicates the ability of
the system to supply the current 2030 average and 2030 peak water demands without undue
influence on water levels throughout the aquifer
There are three conclusions to take away from this evaluation
1 Peak pumping as projected by the Metropolitan Council for 2030 does not appear to induce
critical regional groundwater level drawdowns in the Prairie du Chien Jordan aquifer in
Chanhassen This conclusion assumes 2 weeks of continuous peak pumping
2 The City of Chanhassen appears to have considerable leeway in selecting future well
locations from the 14 locations they have identified All locations appear to be able to supply
1 000 gpm during the two week peak pumping conditions assuming the information on
hydraulic parameters for the aquifer that are currently in the model accurately represent
existing conditions Not all locations performed the same and some are very close to the
eroded edge of the Prairie du Chien Jordan formation
The following additional comments are offered with respect to the modeled well sites Site 2
and Site 10 are at the edge of the western extent of the Jordan Sandstone and if these sites are
selected we would recommend an exploratory boring to confirm geology in advance of
procuring a well drilling contractor to make sure the formation is present and to confirm well
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design The 14 sites can be categorized into three general groupings those that performed
very well those that performed well and those that performed adequately Those that
performed very well had the greatest head above the limiting water level shown in Table 6
Those that performed well had the next most head above the limiting water level and those
that performed adequately had the least head above the limiting water level The groups are
shown in the table below If all other factors were equal Barr would recommend selecting
sites from the higher performing groups Note that the site being considered for City Well 14
is Site 14 in the Adequate performing sites group
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These sites are at the eroded edge of the Prairie du Chien Jordan formation
3 Both existing conditions and the model show that water levels in Well 10 are close to the
limiting elevation near the top of the Prairie du Chien formation The model shows that the
well should not experience additional severe drawdown conditions in the future The entire
Prairie du Chien is cased off in this well and a screen is set only in the Jordan The pump is
set very low in the well near the top of the screen well below the top of the Prairie du Chien
Because of this the pump should not see water levels that prevent it from operating as
intended However as currently configured the well could draw water levels down below the
top of the Prairie du Chien without causing a problem for the pump The City should monitor
water levels in this well carefully The limiting water elevation is approximately 215 feet
below the ground at WelllO This generally indicates that the City needs to monitor all of its
wells carefully in the future It also points out that there still is a concern that excessive peak
pumping will have negative impacts on wells In addition localized variations in geology that
may not be known about and therefore not represented in the model may contribute to
drawdown not identified by the model As a result Barr recommends that a second source
aquifer be considered in the near future along with careful monitoring of water levels in all
city Wells
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Extended Peak Pumping Scenarios
Following the initial model runs several extended peak pumping scenarios were run to find out how
long the wells could sustain a peak pumping scenario Each scenario was started by running average
demand conditions for Chanhassen and surrounding communities as described above Demands in
surrounding communities were then increased to match peak demands and all Chanhassen wells
considered in each scenario were then turned on at full capacity at left to run for 180 consecutive
days Three different scenarios were run They include
1 Existing wells only excluding Well 11
2 Scenario 4 which includes existing Chanhassen wells excluding Well 11 and new wells at
Sites 1 2 5 12 and 14 this is the site of future Well 14
3 Scenario 5 which includes existing Chanhassen wells excluding Well 11 and new wells at
Sites 4 6 7 9 and 10
During the extended peak scenarios all wells were again able to supply water at the modeled rates
throughout the simulation Water levels in the wells declined over the first few days of peak pumping
and then stabilized at various levels that were all above the limiting water levels Water levels did not
decline further even after prolonged pumping Water levels stabilized at elevations relatively close to
those shown in the two week pumping scenarios
What this indicates is that using known aquifer parameters the model predicts that average recharge
rates which are based on average precipitation are able to be transmitted through the aquifer to
regional wells to sustain peak pumping even for extended periods What is not accounted for is the
impact of extended drought periods that interrupt the recharge cycle of the wells Peak pumping
almost always occurs in conjunction with drought conditions which in turn limit aquifer recharge
The model currently assumes a continuous average rate of recharge over the region
Actual water levels in the City s wells often decline continually over extended pumping periods This
can happen when recharge is limited and the wells need to reach farther and farther to obtain the
water needed The fact that the model shows the wells able to supply the City even during extended
pumping indicates that problems associated with declining water levels likely caused by dry weather
patterns and other factors that are limiting aquifer recharge and not limitations in the aquifer itself
In other words under average recharge conditions the aquifer is able to transmit water from the
places where it is normally recharged to the wells in Chanhassen in a quantity that would meet the
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City s peak demands even for extended pumping periods Pumps may have to be lowered but the
wells would not dry up due to aquifer transmissivity limitations What will affect water levels will be
weather patterns that ultimately cannot be predicted If aquifer recharge diminishes due to extended
drought then declining water levels will continue to be a problem Because of this the City needs to
continue to monitor water levels and be prepared to enact sprinkling bans if continued drought
interferes with aquifer recharge In addition to this a secondary source such as the FIG aquifer
would provide a hedge against these problems since it is a deeper aquifer and is able to attenuate
varying recharge somewhat better
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Existing Well 4 and Future Well 14 Considerations
The purpose of this section is to conduct a brief analysis of existing Chanhassen Well 4 to determine
the most cost effective way to treat and deliver this water to the system This section includes a
review of raw water quality data from Chanhassen Well 4 with respect to meeting primary and
secondary drinking water quality standards Based on this review an evaluation of two alternatives
related to the treatment of Chanhassen Well 4 will be performed A major factor contributing to this
analysis is the fact that a potential site for future Well 14 exists along a route that could be used to
connect Chanhassen Well 4 to the East Treatment Plant If this site were to be used for future
Welll4 then a raw water main would be relatively close to the Chanhassen Well 4 site making
connecting it to the treatment plant more feasible and cost effective
Chanhassen Well 4 Raw Water Quality Information and Review
The City provided Chanhassen Well 4 raw water quality data that is shown in Table 7 Based on the
data provided it appears that Well 4 can be pumped to the East Water Treatment Plant blended with
raw water from Chanhassen Wells 2 and 10 through 13 and treated without any major treatment
modifications to the plant Both iron and manganese levels in Chanhassen Well 4 water are in line
with those from the water from the other Wells being treated at the plant The main difference is the
presence of higher levels of radium That stated it is recommended that before any new source is
added to an existing water treatment plant detailed studies should be performed to ensure that no
unexpected and undesirable outcomes will occur Trace elements present in any water source can
affect existing treatment processes However based on what is known about the quality of water in
Well 4 only minor adjustments if any would be needed to add the well to the raw water supplying
the East Plant
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Table 7
Water Quality from Well 4 and Wells Supplying the East Treatment Plant
Well Source Fe mg I Mn mg I Sample Date
Well 4 0 321 0 091 11 14 08
Plant Influent Avg 0 328 0 090 11 06 08
Plant Influent Range 0 220 0 400 0 070 0 144 11 06 08
Well 2 0 330 0 100 11 06 08
Well 10 0 220 0 070 11 06 08
Well 12 0 340 0 072 11 06 08
Well 13 0 400 0 144 11 06 08
In addition to this blending of the Chanhassen Well 4 raw water with the other raw water sources
supplied to the treatment plant will result in lowering of the concentration of radium in the finished
water to levels below the regulated limit of 5 pCi I This is true even without considering the benefits
of treatment the dilution alone would bring radium concentrations to levels below the regulated limit
as long as it is blended with at least one other well pumping at the same rate as Chanhassen Well 4
and that has very little or no radium
When the benefits of iron manganese filtration are considered the picture gets even better This is
because radium has been found to adsorb to manganese oxides A common treatment for radium
removal is to add hydrous manganese oxides HMO to a treatment stream and then perform normal
iron manganese filtration this is an oversimplified description but generally serves the discussion
here Even without the addition of HMOs normal iron manganese filtration of water that has iron
and manganese present in it often results in a beneficial lowering of radium 226 and 228 Studies of
five iron manganese filtration plants preformed by the Minnesota Department of Health found that
without modifying their processes to optimize for radium removal the plants all produced water with
lower levels of radium in the effluent than was present in the influent streams Removals varied from
19 to 63 percent for radium 226 and from 23 to 82 percent for radium 228 Note that the study also
found that radium removal by this method has lower threshold limits Neither radium 226 or 228
could be completely removed from the source water by unmodified iron manganese filtration alone
Removal rates varied depending upon a number of factors which should be studied in greater detail
before adding Well 4 water to the East Treatment plant But even if the worst removal efficiencies
were achieved and Well 4 water were treated at the East Treatment Plant unblended with other wells
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it would still likely be below regulated limits some of the time depending upon concentrations in the
influent stream This is shown in Table 8 below which also shows the best potential removal
efficiencies that might be achieved
Table 8
Estimated Potential Range of Radium Levels Produced by East Treatment Plant
Radium 226 228
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Worst case removal exceeds MCL
High radium level recorded at Well 4
Best case removal exceed MCL
Note this table is based on similar proportions of radium 226 to 228 as existed in the 12 17 04 letter
data
What Table 8 also shows is that unmodified iron manganese filtration alone should not be relied upon
to bring Chanhassen Well 4 water down to limits below the MCL without significant bench and pilot
scale treatment studies Chanhassen Well 4 has had radium hits as high as 6 8 pCi 1 and as the table
shows the worst case assumption for radium removal at that influent concentration results in an
effluent concentration of 5 4 pCi l If the raw water from Chanhassen Well 4 is to be treated at the
well location a new package treatment plant with a radium removal system will need to be further
reviewed This would involve a pilot study to identify if a separate detention vessel and radium
removal system is needed in addition to a pressure filter system for iron and manganese removal
treatment Alternative 2 provides preliminary costs for a package water treatment plant at Chanhassen
Well 4 that assumes some form of HOM addition will be needed to bring the water down to regulator
limits
Evaluation and Preliminary Screening of Alternatives
Two alternatives related to the treatment of Chanhassen Well 4 raw water were reviewed One for
routing the well to the East Treatment plant and the other for constructing an on site package plant
for treatment The following is a discussion of each alternative
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Alternative 1 Connect Well 4 to the East Water Treatment Plant along with Well 14
Figure 8 provides the route used for estimating the cost of connecting Chanhassen Well 4 to the East
Water Treatment plant This raw water main would be designed to allow for the future connection of
proposed Well 14 and would be approximately 6 100 lineal feet long The main would be 12 inches
in diameter for 858 lineal feet running from Chanhassen Well 4 north to Lake Drive and then
16 inches in diameter from there to the point where it would connect to the existing raw water main
from Chanhassen Well 13 The larger diameter main would allow for another well from the west to
be connected to the East Treatment Plant It is assumed minimal modifications would be needed at
the East water treatment plant to connect Chanhassen Well 4 and future Well 14 to the plant A
preliminary estimate using the bid tabs from the Chanhassen Wells 12 and 13 raw water main bid
results in an approximate cost range of 730 000 to 950 000 The range is intended to account for
unknown conditions and variation in bids Note we are in uncertain cost estimating times with prices
fluctuating significantly Material prices are beginning to drop after years of steep rises
Alternative 2 Package Water Treatment Plant at Well 4
Consideration was given to the construction of a new package style water treatment plant located at
Chanhassen Well 4 This option would allow for treatment of the raw water at Chanhassen Well 4
and subsequent connection to the existing water supply system Construction of a water treatment
plant at Chanhassen Well 4 would require modifications to the existing well house to include a
radium treatment system comprised of a multi cell pressure filter and additional related equipment
and tanks Additionally the creation of another water treatment plant would require additional
staffing time for operation and maintenance above what is needed at the East and West water
treatment plants Those costs are not considered here since the base cost estimate already exceeds that
needed to pipe Chanhassen Well 4 to the East Treatment Plant With a separate treatment plant at
Chanhassen Well 4 it was assumed that a HMO style radium removal system would be needed to
ensure compliance with radium regulations A pilot study is recommended to verify the need of
radium removal treatment if this alternative is pursued further A preliminary cost for such a plant
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was prepared The cost for a package plant located at a site adjacent to Chanhassen Well 4 would fall
in the range of 1 1 to 1 5 million This estimate includes modifications to Wellhouse 4 a pressure
filter a pressure detention vessel an HMO chemical feed system a buried backwash tank electrical
HV AC and miscellaneous piping
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Analysis of Alternatives
This was only a preliminary scoping level review of the two alternatives but it is readily clear that
constructing a package plant at Chanhassen Well 4 is not a cost effective alternative costing 370 000
to 550 000 more than bringing Chanhassen Well 4 water to the East Treatment Plant If the cost of
routing future Well 14 to the East treatment plant is eliminated from the Well 4 costs the difference is
significantly greater Chanhassen Well 4 should be routed to the East Treatment plant using
direction ally drilled HDPE raw water main similar to how Chanhassen Wells 12 and 13 were brought
to the plant This will utilize an asset that the City already has in Chanhassen Well 4 and improve
water quality from that well by removing iron manganese and radium Finally it also adds needed
supply to the East Treatment Plant to replace other less reliable or failed supply wells
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Overall Conclusions and Recommendations
As pointed out in the Introduction the purpose of this report was four fold Each of those purposes
will be addressed in this section After that a set of recommended actions will be described
Well Locations The groundwater modeling suggests that each of the 14 potential well sites
considered in this study should be able to support a new 1 000 gpm Prairie du Chien Jordan well
Sites 2 and 10 are near the eroded edge of the Jordan Sandstone If those sites are chosen exploratory
borings should be performed in advance of the well drilling to ensure that they are viable sites Sites
that performed very well include 2 7 8 and 10 Sites that performed well include 5 6 9 and 12
Sites that performed adequately include 1 3 4 11 13 and 14 this is the proposed Well 14 site
Potential Contaminants No contaminants were found that exhibited a pattern that would affect well
siting Existing Well 4 has had occasional low level contamination caused by a naturally occurring
contaminant radium Four well sites 3 4 11 and 12 are down gradient and relatively close to
several MPCA Multi sites If any of these sites are selected then the status of those sites should be
verified If concerns are raised then a testing program to verify groundwater quality at those sites
should be performed before committing to a new well at any of those locations
Chanhassen Well 4 and Future Well 14 Planning It is more cost effective to connect Chanhassen
Well 4 to the East Treatment Plant than to construct an on site treatment plant for iron manganese
and radium removal Piping Chanhassen Well 4 and future Well 14 to the East Treatment plant would
cost and estimated 730 000 to 950 000 while constructing and on site package treatment plant
would cost approximately 1 1 to 1 5 million Before connecting Well 4 to the East Treatment Plant
a more detailed water quality analysis should be performed to ensure that adding Well 4 water to the
plant does not disrupt the current treatment process
Aquifer Yield Assessment After performing the modeling and reviewing past studies the following
conclusions have been reached regarding the aquifers currently supplying the city
1 The shallow sand and gravel aquifer into which Chanhassen Wells 5 6 and 11 are completed
cannot be considered a viable source for the future unless some form of augmentation is planned
such as aquifer storage and recovery this is a process where water from another source is treated
and then pumped down into the aquifer and stored for later reuse While the city can continue to
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use Chanhassen Well II it should not plan on it being a long term viable source unless additional
information becomes available to suggest otherwise
2 The Prairie du Chien Jordan aquifer appears to be able to transmit water to the city wells in an
amount needed if recharge rates remain at or above average levels This is true now and into
the future but localized draw down conditions at specific wells will continue to be a problem for
the city especially if extended drought limits aquifer recharge New wells will be needed to meet
future demands and those wells should be sited carefully and as far apart as reasonable to limit
interference Due to the trends of lowering water levels Barr recommends that the City pursue
wells in another aquifer as a hedge against future problems Barr recommends that the City
consider at least one FIG well in each major well field If dry weather patterns persist and
draw down continues to be a concern in the Jordan then it is possible that additional FIG wells
could be added as needed to augment the City supply though it appears that this should not be
necessary unless weather patterns continue to be dry and aquifer recharge is limited
3 The FIG aquifer was not studied in depth for this evaluation however a preliminary review of the
data available suggest that the aquifer should be able to support two 500 to 600 gpm wells even
considering future draw down likely to be caused by growing communities to the west of
Chanhassen The modeling performed for this report included a preliminary look at the FIG
aquifer Model results show static water levels at least 300 feet of water above the top of the FIG
aquifer in most all parts of Chanhassen even after draw down from future growth is considered
Even with the poor yields common in the FIG this should support wells of 500 to 600 gpm or
more depending on specific local aquifer characteristics Concerns stated in the DRAFT MCES
Metropolitan Water Supply Study are not major and should not be taken as a reason to abandon
this aquifer as a potential source Questions remain concerning the properties of the FIG aquifer
in the Chanhassen area and the degree of hydraulic connection between this aquifer and the
overlying Prairie du Chien Jordan aquifer which would need to be addressed before committing
to municipal wells in the FIG aquifer
Recommended actions Barr recommends the following actions be taken by the City in response to
the this study
1 The MDNR has not responded to the City s 10 year appropriations permit The DRAFT MCES
metro Water Supply Study identifies some issue related to the potential to impact the Seminary
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Fen The City should maintain contact with the MDNR and prepare to perform additional
modeling if needed to address any concerns that they might bring up related to impacts to the fen
3 Perform a treatability study for Well 4 to determine the impact of adding that water to the East
Treatment Plant Finalize the selection of a site for Welll4 and have plans prepared to connect
Well 4 and future Welll4 to the East Treatment Plant
4 During modeling existing Well lO had some of the lowest water levels with respect to its limiting
water elevation However the pump is set just above the screen which is set only in the Jordan
This means that Well lO will not likely experience pump problems in the future but that as
configured it could draw down water levels below the regulatory limiting elevation during a
prolonged drought or extended pump runs Barr recommends that the City carefully monitor
water levels in this well along with those in its other wells Water levels should be set in each
well that would trigger actions such as sprinkling bans and possibly a change in the pump call
sequence to allow a given well to rest more before it is used again In addition frequent triggers
could also initiate a new well project to spread out the demand among more wells and lighten the
load on each Frequent triggers could also initiate a Franconia Ironton Galesville well as
discussed more below
5 Commit to identifying a second source aquifer to supplement the Prairie du Chien Jordan aquifer
Options include the FIG aquifer the Mt Simon Hinckley aquifer or aquifer storage and recovery
using Chanhassen Wells 5 and 6 The FIG aquifer will be the most cost effective to pursue given
the regional ban on the use of the Mt Simon Hinckley aquifer and the design challenges
associated with aquifer storage and recovery However it is not as productive as other options
a If the FIG aquifer is selected as the source then a more detailed study of the FIG aquifer
should be performed to determine if it can be a supplemental source to the City and act as a
backup should wells in the Prairie du Chien Jordan aquifer prove to be problematic The FIG
aquifer should not be considered a source for supplying a significant portion of your peak day
demand due to its limited productivity but it would be able to increase the City s supply
reliability It could be used to supply average day demand thereby reducing the stress on the
Prairie du Chien Jordan aquifer In addition because the FIG is separated from the shallower
aquifers by an aquitard wells located in it can be sited right next to shallower wells without
substantially impacting their performance This means that one new FIG well could be sited
in the existing east well field immediately adjacent to either failed WellS or 6 This new FIG
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well could utilize some of the equipment originally intended for one of those wells thereby
saving installation costs It is also worth noting that the Prairie du Chien Jordan aquifer is
absent in parts of the City and in those areas the FIG aquifer may be more productive than in
areas where it is overlain by the Prairie du Chien Jordan aquifer The detailed study should
include modeling of wells sites a field investigation including construction of a pumping
well and a long term aquifer pumping test Finally the MCES Metropolitan Water Supply
Plan identifies this aquifer as a viable source for Chanhassen
b If aquifer storage and recover ASR is to be considered a well code variance would be
needed This would be followed by a detailed examination of the geology of the shallow
aquifer that would include a geochemical analysis and a better definition of its connection to
the underlying aquifers in the region This would then be followed by bench and pilot studies
to verify water chemistry needed to make a successful project The potential up side of hits
option is the existing infrastructure at Wells 5 and 6 that could be reused and the productive
nature of the aquifer
c If the Mt Simon Hinckley aquifer is selected for further evaluation as the source a detailed
alternative water source study will need to be performed in consultation with the MDNR
This would likely be a long term process with many political and technical obstacles along
the way and no guarantee of being granted permission in the end
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Metropolitan Council Master Water Supply Plan Appendix 2
Community Water Supply Profiles
Chanhassen
Water Demand Projections Note 1 2 Ref A 2004 2010 2020 2030 2040 2050
Population Served 23652 27500 34500 38000 45925 50655
Annual Total Million Gal Yr 1031 86 1199 76 1429 89 1492 06 1803 24 1988 97
Average Day Million Gal Day 2 83 3 29 3 92 4 09 4 94 5 45
Maximum Day Million Gal Day 9 39 10 92 12 94 13 30 16 07 17 73
Maximum Day Conserving 100 0 9 825 11 64 11 97 14 47 15 96
Estimated Additional Wells 1 1 0 2 1
Current Water Supply Ref 8 C
The community owns and operates their own water supply system
2004 Permitted Appropriation 1200 million gallons per year
Current Water Source s Wells 2004 Municipal Water Use
Multi Aquifer
Prairie du Chien Jordan
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Prairie du
Chien Jordan Quaternary
Quaternary
Available Future Water Supply Source s Rd 0
o Quaternary aquiferes
o Prairie du Chien Jordan aquifer
o Franconia Ironton Galesville aquifer
o Interjurisdictional cooperation Victoria Chaska Shorewod Eden Prairie
The following must be addressed in water supply planning and development ote 3 Ref A 8 C
Potential for impacts to state protected trout habitat or calcareous fen
o Seminary Fen located within one mile of the community
o Assumption Creek trout habitat located within one mile of the community
Minnesota Department of Natural Resources and Department of Health conditions
o Conditions identified on existing and future water appropriation permits issued by the
Minnesota Department of Natural Resources
o Issues identified in Source Water Assessments which can be found on the Minnesota
Department of Health website www health state mn usjdivsjehjwaterjswpjswaj
Notes and references can be found on the cover page
November 3 2008 Draft A2 33
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
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MEMORANDUM
0
TO Paul Oehme CIty Engmeer t
Terry Jeffery Water Resources Coordinator r
January 12 2009 tJ
FROM
DATE
SUBJ Storm Sewer Connection Charges
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
I have completed my review of storms ewer connection charges assessed in other
communities The comparison was limited in that the assessment methodology
and land use classifications differed often significantly between cities The
attached spreadsheet shows the cost on a square foot basis trying to match zoning
districts as closely as possible
The following table lists the average charge per land use in eight 8 metropolitan
communities during 2008 and the proposed rate for 2009 in Chanhassen
Land Use
Category
Average
2008
Proposed Chanhassen
Rates 2009
Percent Overt
under
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Commercial 0 236 0 615 1 61
Note Costs are in dollars per square foot Average rates are based upon 2008 rate schedules
DISCUSSION
Chanhassen has eight different zoning classes which are assessed Other
communities use a variety of zoning classifications but the most common schema
is to use three zoning classes low density residential high density residential
and commercial industrial
The City of Shakopee charges every development a flat rate of 0 118 ft2 In
addition they charge a treatment and storage fee at varying rates per land use
This rate is changed to a flat rate of 0 024 ft2 ifthe developer employs
alternative treatment and storage best management practices
Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 45
Paul Oehme
January 12 2009
Storm Sewer Connection Charges
Page 2
The City of Rosemount charges a trunk area charge of either 0 153 ft2 or 0 204 ft2
depending upon land use This is paid at the time of final plat An additional treatment and
storage fee is assessed with the SAC WAC charges when the building permit is issued This fee
is 745 lot for single family and duplex assuming a typical lot of 1 3 acre this amounts to
0 052 ft2 for single family The fee is 280 unit for multi family housing At 12 units per acre
the minimum density to be classified as high density this equals an additional 0 077 ft2
The City of Savage applies five different rates 0 212 ft2 for single family residential
0 256 ft2 for multi family residential and then three classes for commercial industrial based
upon percent cover by impervious surface up to a maximum of 0 309 ft2
The Cities of Princeton Bumsville and Waconia use a flat trunk area fee ranging from 0 05 ft2 to
0 260 ft2 Eagan uses a more complicated formula based upon per acre land values plus the
cost of excavation at a rate of 8 00 yard The figures included in the Eagan fee also show the
fee with a 50 reduction
The Cities of Farmington Chaska and Prior Lake all charge a similar fee but the information was
not readily available on their websites As of the time of this memorandum I had not yet heard
back from the respective agents for these cities According to conversations with the City
Engineer for Farmington they are anticipating a 40 increase in stormwater fees
Even with the proposed rate increase the City of Chanhassen charges are consistent with what
the other communities charge for residential development Chanhassen does charge two times
more than the other communities for industrial and commercial development This difference in
cost between residential and commercial industrial is intended to reflect the difference in total
hardcover and therefore total runoff from the site which needs to be stored and treated
It is also important to note that several communities include land in their calculations that would
be considered undevelopable in the City of Chanhassen For instance Chanhassen does not
assess for any land within a drainage and utility easement which would typically include the
entire outlot in which a stormwater pond or wetland is located Conversely many ofthe other
cities including Rosemount Shakopee and Savage charge for everything outside of the high
water level for storm water ponds and the normal water level for wetlands
The fees indicated for the City of Chanhassen does not reflect any reduction resulting from
SWMP credits This could be as much as 25 ofthe total assessed fee Several other
communities do not provide credit for features and some as in Savage charge additional fees if a
development is unable to provide adequate on site ponding This additional fee is 0 104 for
single family residential 0 178 for multi family residential and 0 357 for commercial and
industrial
Given the calculation of developable land the credits available in Chanhassen and the
additional fees charged by some other cities the stormwater fees charged in Chanhassen is less
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Paul Oehme
January 12 2009
Storm Sewer Connection Charges
Page 3
than shown in the above table in relation to other communities Currently the credits granted to a
development are strictly based upon water quality features and do not address volume reduction
It may be feasible to tier the industrial and commercial by total impervious coverage so that rates
are reduced for those commercial site which seeking to minimize the total area paved Still other
credit options might be available such as cisterns green roofs preservation of woodlands in
conservation easements or other accepted best management practices for volume reduction
Caution is suggested when considering other BMPs as some practices may not be permanent so
the net improvement would not be realized in the future
This concludes my review of municipal stormsewer charges Should you have any questions
please contact me at extension 1168 Thank you for your time and attention
Attachment
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
8 1
1il tMIJ l lJ
MEMORANDUM
TO Mayor City Council
FROM Todd Gerhardt City Manager
DATE January 12 2009
SUBJ Legislative Priorities
Attached you will find staff s proposed 2009 Legislative Priorities The list is
the same as 2008 with the addition of unfunded mandates My expectation for
Monday night s discussion is for the City Council to review the priorities and
add any other priorities you feel are important
ATTACHMENTS
1 2009 Legislative Priorities
Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 49
City of Chanhassen
2009 Legislative Priorities ClTYOF
CHWIASSER
1 TH 101 Corridor Project Lyman Boulevard to Scott County Line This is a
joint project with MnDOT Carver County Scott County and the Cities of Shakopee
and Chanhassen
Completed Corridor Scoping Study Analysis Preliminary Design and
Environmental Screening
Will be officially mapped when environmental reviews are completed anticipated in
2010 at the earliest
Applied for funding through the Metropolitan Council s Surface Transportation
Program STP but placed 12th which put us out of running for funding this project
for 2010
MnDOT planning a mill and overlay of the corridor in 2009 City would prefer to see
funds programmed for reconstruction widening of the corridor
The city needs this project to expand economic growth create new jobs and expand
our tax base
Problem No funding source 8 million for Phase I
2 TH 5 Project Improvements West of TH 41 This is a joint project with MnDOT
Carver County and the Cities of Victoria Waconia N orwood Y oung America and
Chanhassen
The city entered into a joint powers agreement for the completion of Corridor
Scoping Analysis Preliminary Design and Environmental Screening
Once this study is completed the corridor can be officially mapped
Problem No fund source Amount
3 Highway 312 Continue Development of Highway 312
The development of Highway 312 from County Road 147 on the Chaska Carver
border to the City of Cologne
Problem No funding source Amount
4 Environmental The permitting processes are too time consuming and streamlining the
processes would be a good start NPDES MS4 Non degradation Wetland Conservation
Act and Clean Water Act requirements etc
5 Unfunded Mandates Chanhassen opposes both current and future statutory changes
that create mandated tasks that require new or added local costs without a corresponding
funding mechanism Without a funding source Chanhassen is potentially in the position
of having to increase property taxes and or fees These unfunded mandates add to the
responsibilities for cities and the ability to fund traditional service needs
G admin tg key financial strategies 2009 priorities doc
50
e
CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
OA TH OF OFFICE
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
I Bethany Tjornhom do solemnly swear that I will support the
Constitution of the United States the Constitution of the State of Minnesota
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
and that I will faithfully justly and impartially discharge the duties of the
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
office of Councilwoman for the City of Chanhassen Minnesota to the best of
my judgment and ability So help me God
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Bethany Tjombom
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Subscribed and sworn to
before me this 12thctayof
January 2009
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110 Notary Public
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 51
CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
OA TH OF OFFICE
I Jerry A McDonald do solemnly swear that I will support the
Constitution of the United States the Constitution of the State of Minnesota
and that I will faithfully justly and impartially discharge the duties of the
office of Councilman for the City of Chanhassen Minnesota to the best of my
judgment and ability So help me God
Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 52
CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
b
MEMORANDUM
TO Mayor and City Council
FROM
DATE
SUBJ
Todd Gerhardt City Manager
January 12 2009
Organizational Items
The following items require Council action as a part of our first meeting
of 2009
a Official Newspaper Each year the City Council must designate an official
newspaper that meets the qualifications of state statute attached This
office recommends that the Chanhassen Villager be appointed as the city s
official newspaper as it is the only newspaper that meets statute
requirements
b Acting Mayor The Council should select one of its members to serve as
Acting Mayor This person will run Council meetings stand in at
ceremonies and execute official city documents in the absence of the
Mayor
If you have any questions please contact me
g user karen org mtg 2009 doc
Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 53
MINNESOTA STATE STATUTE
331A 04 DESIGNATION OF A NEWSPAPER FOR OFFICIAL PUBLICATIONS
Subdivision 1 Priority The governing body of a political subdivision when authorized
or required by statute or charter to designate a newspaper for publication of its public notices
shall designate a qualified newspaper in the following priority
Subd 2 Known office in locality If there are one or more qualified newspapers the
known office of issue of which are located within the political subdivision one of them shall
be designated
Subd 3 Secondary office in locality When no qualified newspaper has a known office
of issue located in the political subdivision but one or more qualified newspapers maintain a
secondary office there one of them shall be designated
Subd 4 General circulation in locality When no qualified newspaper has its known office
of issue or a secondary office located within the political subdivision then a qualified newspaper
of general circulation there shall be designated
Subd 5 Other situations If a political subdivision is without an official newspaper or if
the publisher refuses to publish a particular public notice matters required to be published shall
be published in a newspaper designated as provided in subdivision 4 The governing body of a
political subdivision with territory in two or more counties may if deemed in the public interest
designate a separate qualified newspaper for each county
Subd 6 Exception to designation priority a Notwithstanding subdivisions 1 to 3 the
governing body of a political subdivision may designate any newspaper for publication of its
official proceedings and public notices if the following conditions are met
1 the newspaper is a qualified medium of official and legal publication
2 the publisher of the newspaper furnishes a sworn statement verified by a recognized
independent circulation auditing agency covering a period of at least one year ending no earlier
than 60 days before designation of the newspaper stating that the newspaper s circulation reaches
not fewer than 75 percent of the households within the political subdivision
3 the newspaper has provided regular coverage of the proceedings of the governing body of
the political subdivision and will continue to do so and
4 the governing body votes unanimously to designate the newspaper
b If the circulation of a newspaper designated under this subdivision falls below 75 percent
of the households within the political subdivision at any time within the term of its designation
as official newspaper its qualification to publish public notices for the political subdivision
terminates
54
RECEIVED
DEe 2 4 2008
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
December 16 2008
Mr Todd Gerhardt
City of Chanhassen
7700 Market Boulevard
Chanhassen Minnesota 55317
Dear Mr Gerhardt
Please consider our request for appointment of the Chanhassen Villager as the official newspaper
for the City of Chanhassen in 2009
We recognize that financial challenges are being faced by most government bodies and feel very
strongly that the publishing of legal notices in the newspaper is of vital importance to local resi
dents who wish to stay informed about the decisions being made by your elected body Conse
quently a per inch rate of 7 06 is submitted for the coming year The Chanhassen Villager wants
to do its part during these tough economic times so the rate proposed actually represents a 3
decrease from what was charged for the past several years
We would stipulate that the city follow its normal procedure of submitting legal notices in generic
text format of as Microsoft Word documents via e mail Legal notices requiring special handling will
be billed atthe rate of 12 per column inch for the first insertion and 8 75 per column inch for
ubsequent insertions
Notices submitted by the City of Chanhassen will continue to be posted on our newspaper website
www chanvillager com free of charge
Our legal notice deadline is at 4 p m on Thursday preceding the following week s publication date
during holiday weeks the deadline may be advanced
Thank you for the opportunity to be of service to you in the past We hope that relationship can be
continued in the coming year
Respectfully
Y11i
General Manager
80 West 78th Street Suite 170 Chanhassen Minnesota 55317 952 934 5045
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m e a n t b y a r c h i v i ng a n d h o w l o n g i t e m s w ou l d b e a r c h i v e d . T o d d G e r h a r d t e x p l a i n e d t h e
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t h e L a k e M i nn e t o n k a C a b l e C o m m i ss i o n (L M C C ) o p e r a t e s a n d t h e p o s s i b il i t y o f u s i ng t h e i r
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t h e ca b l e c o m p a n y f i t s i n t o t h e b udg e t . R i c h a r d R i ce e x p l a i n e d h i s c o n ce r n s w i t h ca p a c i t y i s s u e s
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t h i s t y p e o f s e r v i ce . T o dd G e r h a r d t e x p l a i n e d t h a t i f t h e c i t y i s g o i n g t o m a k e t h i s s e r v i c e
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p r o v i d e s g o v e r n m e n t a l i n f o r m a t i o n . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m a n d C o u n c il m a n M c D o n a l d
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E nv i r o n m e n t a l E x ce ll e n ce Aw a r d s t o M a r y B o r n s , a n d T o m A n d e r s o n a n d S h a r o n G o tt o
r e p r e s e n t i n g t h e L a k e R i l e y W oo d s n e i g h b o r h o o d .
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r e c o m m e nd a t i o n s:
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-C i t y C o u n c i l V e r b a t i m a n d S u mm a r y M i nu t e s d a t e d N o v e m b e r 24 , 200 8
-C i t y C o u n c i l W o r k S e s s i o n M i nu t e s d a t e d D ece m b e r 1 , 200 8
-C i t y C o u n c i l V e r b a t i m a n d S u mm a r y M i nu t e s d a t e d D ec e m b e r 1 , 2008
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h ea r i ng . N o o n e s p o k e a n d t h e pub l i c h ea r i n g w a s c l o s e d .
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F u r l o n g a s k e d i f i t w a s a l w a y s t h e a p p l i c a n t ’s i n t e n t t o p r o cee d f o r w a r d t h r o ug h p h a s e s .
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u n d e r t h e c o n d i t i o n a l u s e p e r m i t f o r m u l t i p l e b u i l d i ng s . B r u n o S i l i k o w s k i e x p l a i n e d t h a t t h e
s t o r m w a t e r p o n d i n g w a s c a l c u l a t e d t o i n c l ud e a l l o f t h e p r o p o s e d d e v e l op m e n t o n t h e s i t e .
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n o i s e .
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r e v i s i o n o f t h e p r o p e r t y l i n e , i n c o n f o r m a n c e w i t h t h e g r a d i n g p l a n s p re p a r e d b y S a t h re-
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a tt a c h e d F i nd i n g s o f F a c t a nd A c t i o n a nd t h e f o l l o w i n g c o nd i t i o n :
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w i t h i n t h e c o mm o n a r e a o f t h e s i t e .”
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t o p e r m i t t h e ph a s e d d e v e l o p m e n t o f t h e p r o j e c t a nd a ll o w f o r t h e i n c r e m e n t a l e x p a n s i o n o r
r e v i s i o n o f t h e p r o p e r t y l i n e s ub j ec t t o t h e o r i g i n a l c o nd i t i o n o f a p p r ov a l a nd t h e f o ll o w i n g
c o n d i t i o n s :
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A u t o b a h n M o t o r P l e x C o m m o n I n t e r e s t C o mm u n i t y , t h e n t h o s e s i t e s s h a ll b e s e p a r a t e d f r o m
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s o …w a s t o ac qu i r e t h o s e a n d b u i l d a s e p a r a t e u s e o n t h e r e . M o r e t h a n li k e l y t h e y w ou l d
p r o b a b l y b e p l a tt e d a s a s e p a r a t e l o t . S o t h e r e c o u l d b e t w o a dd i t i o n a l l o t s up t h e r e .
C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : S o t h e n i n t h e s t a f f r e po r t o n p a g e 4 I t h i n k i t s a y s , u n d e r t h e
c o n d i t i o n a l u s e p e r m i t f o r m u l t i p l e b u i l d i n g s o n L o t 1 , i t s a y s t h e d e v e l op m e n t o f 2 b u il d i ng s
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o f a c o m m o n i n t e r e s t a n d i t ’s a s e p a r a t e o w n e r , t h a t w o u l d h a v e t o g o t h r o ug h t h a t p r o ce ss .
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r e v i e w , s u b d i v i s i o n . A n d t h e n a n y o t h e r r e qu i r e m e n t s t o m e e t t h e c i t y c o d e s , s t o r m w a t e r
m a n a g e m e n t , a ll t h a t w o u l d b e r e q u i r e d i f t h a t p o n d w a s n ’t s i ze d a pp r o p r i a t e l y .
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t h e qu a li f i ca t i o n s o f t h e c i t y o r d i n a n ce . B e s i d e s s i t e p l a n r e v i e w . A r c h i t ec t u r e . S t o r m w a t e r .
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o n s i t e o r s o m e t h i ng li k e t h a t , t h a t c o u l d b e acc o m m o d a t e d .
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w i t h o u t v a r i a n c e s a n d w i t h i n c u rr e n t c o d e ? A r e t h e y b u il d a b l e ?
K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h e y h a v e n ’t s h o w n a s i t e p l a n o n t h o s e p e r s e s o .
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K a t e A a n e n s o n : I t w ill d e p e n d , e x ac t l y . W h a t t h e a ss o c i a t i o n w a n t s t o d o w i t h t h e , o r t h e o w n e r
w a n t s t o d o w i t h t h o s e t w o l o t s.
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w e r ece n t l y h a d s o m e t h i ng s imi l a r t o w h e r e i t c h a ng e d h a n d s a n d t h e s t o r m w a t e r p o n d w a s n ’t
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m ee t t h e r e qu i r e m e n t s . W h e r e d o t h e y g o ?
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t h a t t o m a k e s u r e . A s w e w o u l d w i t h a n y o t h e r p r o j ec t t h a t c o m e s i n .
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r e n d e r i ng s . T h e c o mm u n i t y r oo m . A l l t h e o t h e r b u il d i ng s w e r e a pp r o v e d f o r a n a r c h i t ec t u r a l
l a y o u t a n d d e s i g n , s o t h a t w a s a ll i n c o r p o r a t e d i n t h e .
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n o t r e m e m b e r b u t w h e n w e w e n t t h r o ug h t h a t d e s i g n , t h e s t o r m w a t e r p o n d i n g ac t u a l l y i n c l u d e d
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t h e m o n t h a t f r o n t l o t s o t o a n s w e r y o u r qu e s t i o n s , t h e s t o r m w a t e r p o n d i n g w a s ac t u a l l y
d e s i g n e d t o ac c o m m o d a t e a l l o f t h a t . B u t y o u k n o w i t ’s b e e n a w h il e s o h o w c o u l d y o u e x p ec t
t o .
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p o n d w a s b u i l t a s d e s i g n e d a n d t h a t s t ill m ee t s s t a nd a r d s .
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ac t u a l l y h a d t h e o p p o s i t e . T h e ec o n o m y ’s ac t u a l l y b e e n go o d t o u s . I n f ac t w e ’r e s t a r t i n g
a n o t h e r b u il d i ng . W e b u i l t a , w e s t a r t e d b u il d i ng a b o u t 4 w ee k s , 4 m o n t h s a g o . N o , I’m s o rr y , 4
w ee k s a g o a n d w e ’r e s t a r t i n g a n o t h e r b u il d i ng i n 2 w ee k s , a n d t h a t ’s j u s t pu r e l y b a s e d o n
d e m a n d s o I t h i n k w e ’l l d o f i n e , b u t w e a r e a l s o t r y i ng t o h e dg e o u r b e t s a l i t t l e b i t a n d t r y i ng t o
b e s m a r t b u s i n e s s p e o p l e a n d g i v e o u r s e l v e s s o m e o p t i o n s a s w e g o d o w n t h e p i p e . I t ’s n o t
i n t e n d e d t o , i n f ac t w e m a y e n d up ac t u a l l y i n v o l v i n g t h o s e t w o p a r ce l s t h a t w e a l w a y s t h o ug h t
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a n y . O t h e r w i s e I d o n ’t r e a l l y h a v e a n y t h i ng e l s e t o a dd . T h a n k y o u K a t e f o r e v e r y t h i ng y o u ’v e
d o n e .
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i t ’s b e e n t h r o ug h u s a n d a pp r o v e d b u t I r e m e m b e r i n t h e s t a f f r e p o r t t h e r e w e r e a c o up l e l e t t e r s ,
p e o p l e w e r e s t ill c o n ce r n e d a b o u t n o i s e . W a s t h a t r e s o l v e d a t t h e P l a nn i ng C o m m i ss i o n ?
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I t ’s p e o p l e h a v e c o n ce r n s t h a t t h e r e a r e v e h i c l e s o u t t h e r e t h a t .
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a c o m p l a i n t . I t h i n k i f a n y t h i n g t h e r e s i d e n t s h a v e p r o b a b l y j u s t b ee n e x p r e ss i ng s o m e t h i n g t h a t
w o u l d b e s o m e w h a t c o m m o n s e n s i c a l b u t i t ’s j u s t n o t w h o w e a r e .
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p r o p e r t y a n d t h a t w e ’r e t r y i ng t o m a n a g e t h r o ug h s ec u r i t y .
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m ee t i n g . W e ac t u a l l y a r e h a v i ng q u i t e a f e w p e op l e c o m e t h r o ug h t h e p r o p e r t y . S n o w m o b il e s .
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o n e e n t r a n ce p o i n t . O t h e r w i s e t h e y ’r e l i k e l i t t l e s t r e a m s t h a t k i n d o f p r o t e c t i t . B u t y o u k n o w
a n d n e i g h b o r s h a v e b ee n m o w i n g a s ec t i o n o f l a w n b ac k t h e r e f o r t h e i r u s e o f w a l k i ng t h e i r d o g s
a n d a l l t h a t , a n d r e a l l y I’m n o t b o t h e r e d b y i t a w h o l e l o t e x ce p t w h e n i t s t a r t s t o ca u s e p r o b l e m s .
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p e o p l e r unn i ng a r o u n d i n t h e w e t l a n d , a n d f r a n k l y i t c a n ’t b e u s . I t w a s i n t h e mi d d l e o f t h e
w ee k e n d . N o b o d y ’s a r o u n d a n d t h e b o tt o m li n e i s I t h i n k t h a t y o u k n o w , I d o n ’t k n o w t h a t w e ’r e
i n n o c e n t a l w a y s b u t I w o u l d t e l l y o u t h a t t h e r e ’s a w h o l e l o t o f p e o p l e w h o a r e acce s s i ng t h e
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t h a t w e ca n k ee p p e o p l e y o u k n o w o f f c o m p l e t e l y . W e c a n n o t g a t e i t c o m p l e t e l y a n d i t ’s j u s t n o t
p o s s i b l e . I t ’s t oo b i g o f a p r o p e r t y . I t ’s a l m o s t 4 0 ac r e s s o f r o m t h a t s t a n dp o i n t i t ’s n o t r ea l l y
b e e n a n i ss u e f r o m o u r s t a n dp o i n t . T h e n e i g h b o r s h a d c o m p l a i n e d , I t h i n k i t ’s t h e s a m e p e r s o n
w h o h a d e x p r e ss e d s o m e ea r l y i n t e r e s t , o r ea r l y c o n ce r n s a c o u p l e y ea r s a g o a n d y o u k n o w , I
d o n ’t k n o w t h a t I ca n b l a m e h e r b u t o n t h e f l i p s i d e o f i t , I t h i n k w e ’v e b e e n r e a l l y v e r y g oo d
n e i g h b o r s a n d I t h i n k t h e r e w e r e s e v e r a l p e op l e w ho f r o m t h a t c o m p l e x , t h a t n e i g h b o r h oo d h a v e
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w i t h i n t h e c o mm o n a r e a o f t h e s i t e .”
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t h o s e p o s i t i o n s o n e i s t h e s c h oo l li a i s o n o ff i c e r .
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d e p a r t m e n t h a s b u t o f c o u r s e I ’m t r y i ng t o f i nd w a y s t o r e du ce c o s t s a n d I w a n t t o g o b ac k t o t h e
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l i k e b u s i n e s s e s . Y o u ca n ’t j u s t t a k e a s n a p s h o t o f o n e t h i n g a n d s a y o k a y , t h a t ’s w h a t w e ’r e
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t h i s p o i n t . W e r e y o u g o i n g t o d o t h a t b e f o r e a d o p t i o n ?
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t r a n s f e r t h e r o a d f u n d a n d n o t , d o e s t h a t m a k e s e n s e ?
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b udg e t p r o ce ss , a n d w e ’v e b e e n , c o u n c il a n d s t a f f h a s b ee n w o r k i n g o n t h e b udg e t s i n ce t h e
s u mm e r m o n t h s . J u l y -A ug u s t t im e f r a m e . I ca n ’t b e l i e v e w e ’r e ac t u a l l y g e tt i n g t o t h e e n d h e r e .
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t h o s e w e r e m o r e u n ce r t a i n . W h il e w e t h i nk w e h a v e a r ea s o n a b l e e s t im a t e o f w h a t t h o s e w ill b e ,
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t o s a y w h a t a r e s o m e c o n t i n g e n c i e s t h a t c o u l d b e p u t i n p l ace . T h a t ’s w h e r e t h i s li s t w a s pu t
t o g e t h e r . T h e s e a r e s o m e b i gg e r t i c k e t i t e m s t h a t t h e s t a f f s a y s t h e s e a r e ea s i e r o n e s t o i d e n t i f y .
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up o n u s t o i d e n t i f y w h a t t h e c o n t i n g e n t s o u r ce s a r e . I t h i n k w e c a n a l l s t e p b ac k f r o m t h a t
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w h a t ’s a v a i l a b l e a s w e l l . B u t w e d o n ’t h a v e t o m a k e a d e c i s i o n n o w a t a n y p o i n t i n t im e .
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l a t e r o n . S o i t ’s a g e n e r a l c o m f o r t l e v e l .
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l u x u r y o f t im e .
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k n o w t h e r e ’s s o m e f l e x i b i l i t y i n t h e r e .
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C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : N o .
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l e v e l t h e r e . E ss e n t i a l l y t o g e t t o a ze r o p e r ce n t i n c r ea s e y o u w o u l d n e e d i t j u s t s h y o f $300 ,000
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i n c r e d i b l e a n d I k n o w t h a t y o u h a d a go o d t ea m a s s e m b l e d a n d t h e y d e s e r v e a l o t o f c r e d i t t oo
b u t o n e o t h e r t h i n g t h a t r ea l l y i m p r e s s e s m e i s h o w w e l l e v e r y o n e d o e s w o r k t o g e t h e r . Y o u
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t r y i n g t o w o r k t og e t h e r t o ac h i e v e a g o a l , n o t c o m p e t i n g a g a i n s t eac h o t h e r a n d t h a t ’s r e a l
v a l u a b l e a n d I’v e w o r k e d w i t h a l o t o f c i t y a d m i n i s t r a t o r , m a n a g e r s i n m y o t h e r j o b a n d y o u ’r e
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a n d t h i s i s w e ll d e s e r v e d .
T o d d G e r h a r d t : T h a n k y o u .
C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : Y o u ’v e w o r k e d h a r d f o r i t . I t j u s t i s n ’t b e i ng g i v e n t o y o u s o .
T o d d G e r h a r d t : A pp r e c i a t e i t .
M a y o r F u r l o n g : T o d d a n y t h o ug h t s ?
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h a v e a g r ea t t ea m b e h i nd m e a n d i f w e ’r e g o i n g t o go up t h e h i l l a n d I do s t u m b l e , I’v e go t a l o t
o f s upp o r t b e h i nd m e . T h e d e p a r t m e n t h ea d s w e h a v e h e r e , h o p e f u l l y n o o t h e r c i t y ’s li s t e n i n g
b e c a u s e I ’d h a t e t o s ee a n y o f t h e m l ea v e t h i s c o mm u n i t y b e ca u s e t h i s c o mm u n i t y i s v e r y l u c k y
t o h a v e t h e p r o f e s s i o n a l s t a f f t h a t y o u h a v e h e r e . I m e a n ce r t i f i e d e n g i n e e r s . M o s t o f t h e m h a v e
m a s t e r s d e g r ee s a n d a r e v e r y p r o f e s s i o n a l s o . A n d a l s o t h e l ea d e r s h i p o f t h e c o u n c i l m a k e s m y
j o b a l o t ea s i e r . C o mm un i c a t i o n . Y o u k n o w w e m a y n o t a l w a y s a g r ee a n d i t ’s m y j o b t o t r y t o
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e v e r yb od y i s r e s p ec t f u l . I b e li e v e i n t h e s y s t e m t h a t w e h a v e . C h a l l e n g i ng ea c h o t h e r j u s t m a k e s
u s s t r o n g e r a n d i t m a k e s u s t h i n k t h r o ug h t h i n g s s o y o u k n o w I t h i n k t o n i g h t w a s a g o o d e x a m p l e
o f t h a t a n d i t m a k e s y o u t h i n k o u t s i d e t h e b o x w h e n y o u c h a l l e n g e ea c h o t h e r . S o I t h i n k a n y o f
m y s t a f f w ou l d s a y t h e y ’r e n o t a f r a i d o f b e i ng c h a l l e n g e d a n d l oo k i n g f o r o p p o r t un i t i e s a n d I
t h i n k t h e s y s t e m t h a t w e h a v e i n p l ace a n d c r ea t i n g t h e p r i o r i t i e s a n d g o a l s i s o n e t h a t g i v e s u s
d i r ec t i o n b u t a l s o p l a y s a b i g f ac t o r f o r m a y o r s a n d c o u n c il s t o g e t t h e t a s k s d o n e t h a t t h e y w a n t
t o s ee d o n e . E ac h y ea r y o u h a v e t h e o p p o r t un i t y t o li s t o u t w h a t y o u r g o a l s a n d a s p i r a t i o n s a r e
f o r t h i s c o m m u n i t y , a n d t h e n w e p r i o r i t i ze t h e m a nd y o u k n o w b e i ng i n t h i s b u s i n e s s f o r 2 3
y ea r s , I’v e s e e n a l o t o f c o u n c il m e m b e r s j u s t b e f r u s t r a t e d t h a t t h e y w e r e n ’t h ea r d o r d i dn ’t g e t a
t a s k d o n e o r a g o a l , a n d I t h i n k t h i s s y s t e m r e a ll y a l l o w s t h a t t o b e p u t o u t t h e r e a n d f o r y o u t o
h a v e t h e o p p o r t un i t y t o s ee t h o s e d o n e s o t h a n k y o u . T h a n k m y s t a f f a n d S e n a t o r O r t m a n a n d
R e p r e s e n t a t i v e H o pp e . W e ’v e h a d a l o t o f c o mm u n i ca t i o n o v e r t h e l a s t f e w y ea r s a n d t h e y h e l p
u s t oo . I t ’s j u s t n o t a l o c a l t h i ng . I t ’s c o u n t y , o t h e r c i t i e s a n d m ee t i n g w i t h t h o s e i n d i v i d u a l s a s
l ea d e r s i s g r ea t i n s i g h t i n w h a t o t h e r p e o p l e a r e g o i n g t h r o ug h s o I k n o w t h e s t a t e h a s b i g
p r o b l e m s c o mi ng up i n t r y i ng t o b a l a n ce t h e i r b u d g e t f o r t h e n e x t c o mi n g 2 y ea r s . T h a t ’s a t a s k
a n d m y h ea r t g o e s o u t t o S e n a t o r O r t m a n a n d R e p r e s e n t a t i v e H o pp e i n t r y i ng t o d ea l w i t h t h a t
i s s u e , a n d w h a t e v e r w e c a n d o t o h e l p , w e ’r e h e r e f o r y o u b eca u s e y ou ’v e a l w a y s b e e n t h e r e f o r
u s a n d t h a t ’s a ll I h a v e t o s a y . I t h i n k w e ’v e k i n d o f c o v e r e d t h i s o n e …
C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : E x ce p t y o u p r o b a b l y w a n t t o h a v e a t r a n s c r i p t f o r y o u r w i f e t o n i g h t .
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T o d d G e r h a r d t : S h e ’s p r o b a b l y w a t c h i ng . S h e ’s p r o b a b l y w a t c h i n g .
M a y o r F u r l o n g : L e t m e j u s t f i n i s h up b y s a y i ng I’m g l a d y o u r ec o gn i ze d e v e r y o n e e l s e w h o ’s i n
t h e c o u n c i l c h a m b e r s , t h e d i r ec t r e p o r t s h e r e t o n i g h t e s p e c i a ll y a n d a s I w a s p r e p a r i n g c o mm e n t s
h e r e b a s e d up o n o u r d i s c u ss i o n , t h i s i s n o t a o n e m a n s h o w a n d I w a n t f o r a l l t h e , f o r G r e g , P a u l ,
T o d d , K a t e , e v e r yb od y e l s e , L a u r i e , e v e r yb od y e l s e i n t h e r o o m , a n d e v e n .
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w o r k i n g t o g e t h e r i n t h e s a m e d i r ec t i o n t h a t p r o du c e s t h e s e r e s u l t s a n d w h i l e o u r f o r m o f
g o v e r n m e n t t h a t w e h a v e , t h e C i t y C o u n c il r e v i e w s t h e C i t y M a n a g e r a n d t h a t ’s w h a t w e ’r e
d o i n g t o n i g h t f r o m a n a g e n d a s t a n dp o i n t . W e f u ll y r e c o gn i ze a n d t h a n k a n d a pp r e c i a t e a ll t h e
e f f o r t s t h a t e v e r yb od y d o e s b e c a u s e j u s t u s o r j u s t T o d d , o r e v e n j u s t y o u , n o n e o f u s i n d i v i du a ll y
c o u l d g e t e v e r y t h i ng d o n e t h a t c o ll ec t i v e l y w e ’v e go t t e n d o n e a n d t h a t ’s r e a l l y i s w h a t m a k e s t h e
d i ff e r e n c e i s h o w w e l l a l l o f u s a r e a b l e t o w o r k t o g e t h e r . T o d d a s a c i t y m a n a g e r , y o u p l a y a
k e y l ea d e r s h i p r o l e i n t h a t p o s i t i o n . T h a t ’s w h y w e ’r e g r a t e f u l f o r y o u a n d p r o u d o f t h e s e r v i ce
t h a t y o u p r o v i d e a n d w e l oo k f o r w a r d t o , w i s h y ou e v e r y s u cce s s i n c o n t i n u i ng t o w o r k w i t h u s
s o t h a n k y o u f o r t h a t . A t t h i s t im e t h e n I w o u l d m o v e t h a t t h e C i t y C o u n c i l a pp r o v e a 4 %
i n c r e a s e f o r M r . G e r h a r d t ’s c o m p e n s a t i o n f o r 200 9 a s w e d i s c u s s e d i n o u r e x ec u t i v e s e ss i o n . I s
t h e r e a s ec o n d ?
C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : I’l l s ec o n d i t .
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w i t h t h e v o t e .
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4 % i n c r e a s e f o r t h e C i t y M a n ag e r ’s 2009 c o m p e n s a t i o n . A ll vo t e d i n f avo r , e x ce p t
C o un c i l w o m a n E r n s t w h o o pp o s e d , a n d t h e m o t i o n c a rr i e d w i t h a vo t e o f 4 t o 1 .
M a y o r F u r l o n g : V e r y go o d , t h a n k y o u .
T o d d G e r h a r d t : T h a n k y o u .
M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n y o t h e r c o u n c i l p r e s e n t a t i o n s t h i s e v e n i n g ? N o ? O k a y .
AD M I N I S T RA T I V E P R E S E N T A T I O N S.
T o d d G e r h a r d t : T h i s b e i ng o u r l a s t m ee t i n g f o r t h e y ea r , I’m n o t g o i n g t o b o r e y o u w i t h a n y
m o r e c o mm e n t s s o t h a n k y o u a g a i n f o r a f a n t a s t i c 2008 . I t h i n k w e d i d g e t a l o t o f o u r g o a l s
acc o m p l i s h e d f o r t h e y ea r a n d I g i v e y o u n e x t 3 t o 4 w ee k s o f f a n d h i t i t h a r d h e r e w h e n w e m e e t
a g a i n J a n u a r y 10 th t o s t a r t t a l k i ng a b o u t 200 9 g o a l s a n d l oo k i n g t o p r i o r i t i ze t h o s e .
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w a s a l i tt l e c o l d . W h e n a ll t h e li g h t s c a m e o n i n t h e c i t y t o ce l e b r a t e t h e c i t y C h r i s t m a s t r ee a s
w e ll a s t h e li g h t s i n t h e p a r k . I t w a s a t r e m e n d o u s t u r n o u t . W e h a d g oo d s upp o r t f r o m s o m e o f
t h e l o c a l b u s i n e s s e s t h a t h e l p e d s p o n s o r t h e e v e n t , a s w e ll a s t h e C h a m b e r a n d s o m e o f t h e
C h a m b e r m e m b e r s a s w e l l , a n d s o w e a pp r ec i a t e a l l t h e s p o n s o r s a n d a ll t h e w o r k t h a t t h e c i t y
s t a f f d i d i n g e tt i n g t h a t p a r k r ea l l y t o l oo k n i c e a n d s o m e t h i ng t h a t w e a l l c a n b e p r o ud o f s o i f
y o u h a v e a n o p p o r t u n i t y t o d r i v e b y t h e p a r k i n t h e e v e n i ng , o r t a k e a s t r o ll t h r o ug h i t a n d r ea l l y
e n j o y a g r ea t a m e n i t y t h a t t h e c i t y h a s . V e r y g oo d . I f t h e r e ’s n o t h i n g e l s e t o c o m e b e f o r e t h e
c o u n c il t h i s y ea r , w e w i s h e v e r y o n e a M e r r y C h r i s t m a s , H a p p y N e w Y ea r . E n j o y t h e h o li d a y s
a n d i f t h e r e ’s n o t h i n g e l s e t o c o m e b e f o r e t h e c o u n c i l , i s t h e r e a m o t i o n t o a d j o u r n ?
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t h e m ee t i n g . A ll vo t e d i n f avo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a r r i e d un a n i m o u s l y w i t h a vo t e o f 5 t o 0 .
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REGULAR MEETING
SUMMARY MINUTES
DECEMBER 2 2008
Chairman Papke called the meeting to order at 7 00 p m
MEMBERS PRESENT Kurt Papke Kevin Dillon Kathleen Thomas Mark Undestad Denny
Laufenburger and Dan Keefe
MEMBERS ABSENT Debbie Larson
STAFF PRESENT Sharmeen Al Jaff Senior Planner Angie Auseth Planner Alyson Fauske
Assistant City Engineer and Terry Jeffery Water Resources Coordinator
PUBLIC HEARING
AMBROSEN SENN VARIANCE REQUEST FOR A HARD SURFACE COVERAGE
VARIANCE ON PROPERTY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL RSF
LOCATED AT 3830 MAPLE SHORES DRIVE LOT 7 BLOCK 1 MAPLE RIDGE
APPLICANT SAWHORSE DESIGNERS AND BUILDERS OWNERS MARK AMBROSEN AND ANN SENN PLANNING CASE 08 24
Angie Auseth presented the staff report on this item Commissioner Dillon asked about the
precedence granting this variance would cause Fred Bruning with Sawhorse Designers and
Builders read a brief statement on behalf of the applicants Mark Ambrosen and Ann Senn and asked that the following actions be taken 1 grant the variance as requested 2 grant an
exemption to the hard cover calculation for the retaining wall patio drain system in the rear of
the home 3 request the City Council consider recognizing other means of mitigating hard
cover and 4 modify the recently added condition requiring an as built survey be signed by a
registered land surveyor to ensure that the lot complies with the 25 hard surface coverage Chairman Papke opened the public hearing No one spoke and the public hearing was closed
After comments from commissioners the following motion was made
Undestad moved Dillon seconded that the Chanhassen Planning Commission denies
Planning Case 08 24 for a 3 7 hard surface coverage variance on Lot 7 Block 1 Maple Ridge Addition and adoption of the attached Findings of Fact and Action and subject to the
following conditions
1 The site must comply with the 25 maximum hard surface coverage requirement as
outlined in the City Code
2 Excess hard surface coverage must be removed and revegetated no later than May 31
2009
3 An as built survey signed by a registered land surveyor is required and must be submitted no later than June 15 2009 to ensure compliance
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4 Final building inspection will not be approved until verification of compliance
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6 to 0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Commissioner Thomas noted the verbatim and summary
minutes of Planning Commission meeting dated November 18 2008 as presented
COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS None
Chairman Papke adjourned the Planning Commission meeting at 7 35 p m
Submitted by Kate Aanenson
Community Development Director
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
DECEMBER 2 2008
Chairman Papke called the meeting to order at 7 00 p m
MEMBERS PRESENT Kurt Papke Kevin Dillon Kathleen Thomas Mark Undestad Denny
Laufenburger and Dan Keefe
MEMBERS ABSENT Debbie Larson
STAFF PRESENT Sharmeen Al Jaff Senior Planner Angie Auseth Planner Alyson Fauske
Assistant City Engineer and Terry Jeffery Water Resources Coordinator
PUBLIC HEARING AMBROSEN SENN VARIANCE REQUEST FOR A HARD SURFACE COVERAGE
VARIANCE ON PROPERTY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL RSF
LOCATED AT 3830 MAPLE SHORES DRIVE LOT 7 BLOCK 1 MAPLE RIDGE
APPLICANT SAWHORSE DESIGNERS AND BUILDERS OWNERS MARK
AMBROSEN AND ANN SENN PLANNING CASE 08 24
Angie Auseth presented the staff report on this item
Papke Kevin we ll start with you
Dillon Were the other driveways that that 6700 and 6760 where are they those houses those
homes in relation to the 25 coverage Are they right up against it
Auseth For this survey we were mainly looking at the driveways so we did not do a full survey
of each property
Dillon Okay because I m kind of just jumping way ahead here If you grant a variance for this
one to make the turn around and those other ones don t have turn arounds will we start down a
slipper slope of granting more variances for turn arounds but maybe they re well below the
25 It s not a big deal I don t know so
Al Jaff I am familiar with those sites and they do meet the code requirements They do not
exceed the 25
Dillon And do they so is everyone in this place backing out of their driveways I mean all the homeowners around here Is that part of the or
Al Jaff In the specific subdivision
Dillon It would look that way Well not everybody but
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Al Jaff Some of them do have a turn around Based upon the lot area and some of them don t
but it s not a busy street as such they are able to get out of their driveways
Dillon That s all I have right now
Thomas I don t have any questions of staff
Laufenburger I don t either
Papke Okay If there s an applicant here this evening would you please step up to the podium
State your name and address for the record and tell us what you have to say about your request
Fred Bruning Well good evening council members Thanks for taking the time to hear me I m
Fred Bruning I m with Sawhorse Designers and Builders I m here on behalf of the owners
Mark Ambrosen and Ann Senn I have a brief statement to read but before that I d like to you
know thank Angie for her time She s we may not have always agreed but she s always been
courteous and helpful so I appreciate that I do have additional copies of this if I could Staff has suggested that the only reasonable use of a property in R 1 zoning is a single family home
with a 2 car garage I submit that this view is not current thinking of land use The majority of
properties within 500 feet of this property are much more than that 10 out of 13 houses on
Maple Shores Drive have 3 car garages or more A clear majority In addition an examination of
the aerial photos on the Carver County web site shows that 20 of the 32 residences in this area appear to be over the 25 hard cover restriction Some extremely over These are pre existing
standards for the neighborhood In comparison to a majority of homes in the area Mark
Ambrosen and Ann Senn are not asking for an unreasonable use of their property Because of
the shape and topography of their lot my clients need to use precious hard cover for an atypically
long driveway to access their home and a retaining wall patio drain system to protect it Three properties to the south have longer driveways than my clients and each has a turn about
However they are on near level lots Two have flag lot hard exemptions to the hard cover
requirement The remaining is on a much larger property To the east are the only two lots
within 500 feet that have an elevation change greater than this property However it is only
slightly greater and over a longer distance This property is unique in that it has both these elements combined on a parcel that is substantially smaller than any of them The lot size
combined with the shape and topography is the hardship It is not self created The willingness
to accept an undue hardship does not negate the hardship or create it The granting of this
variance would not be detrimental to the public welfare or injurious to other land or
improvements in the neighborhood in which this parcel is located Mark and Ann have incurred both the monetary and more importantly the hard cover expense to mitigate runoff erosion
problems caused by topography of their lot Without this allocation of protective hard cover my
clients would be able to construct their addition and meet the hard surface coverage limitation
while maintaining their driveway and turn about They should not be penalized for efforts to
comply with the spirit of the hard cover code simply because they do not meet the letter of that code However a denial of the variance could endanger public safety While staff s Findings of
Fact does not agree we feel that backing a vehicle down a narrow wooded sloped driveway in
excess of 130 feet could be a danger to public safety I ask the Planning Commission to consider
the following actions Number one Grant the variance as requested Number two Grant an
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exemption to the hard cover calculation for the retaining wall patio drain system in the rear of
the home The City currently recognizes similar exemptions for swimming pools and driveways on flag lots etc Number three Request the City Council consider recognizing other means of
mitigating hard cover I have a list of these submitted on the original narrative in the file
Number four Modify the recently added condition requiring my clients to use an as built survey
signed by a registered land surveyor to ensure that the lot complies with the 25 hard surface
coverage We request that the variance we request if the variance is denied Mark and Ann should be asked to maintain their existing hard cover condition currently an estimated 25 7
The current excess hard cover is a pre existing condition that appears prevalent in the area We
appreciate your considerations of this variance and I ll make an attempt to answer any questions
you may have
Undestad I don t have any right now
Keefe You know you ve referenced that changes in grade and you know the thinking I mean is
that the change in grade at the front of the house towards the lake side
Fred Bruning Yeah at the lake side I mean front to back from the lake to the back corner is
46 feet on this lot Most of it happens over 30 feet happens right outside their back door
Keefe Okay And the so
Fred Bruning The lot right off the lake they have a very flat area where that fire pit and that is
down there I mean it s 70 feet that s relatively level and then in the next you know 15 feet it
goes up 30 feet
Keefe And the impact of that is what
Fred Bruning Well in the past they ve had and in the original narrative I explained this When
they originally bought the home they had nothing back there and the soils I mean they re highly
erosive soils I mean very fine silts and sands and that hill had actually eroded within 6 feet of
their foundation I mean they needed to do something to protect their home
Keefe And so what you re saying is that because they ve had to add the drainage system and
retaining wall that has essentially taken up some of the allowed hard surface coverage
Fred Bruning Correct That s one of the issues that does That the topography requires them to do that
Papke If I can just step in at this point
Keefe Yeah
Papke Excuse me Dan but just since you re on that topic We just had a case last week where
the retaining walls are not being counted Now I don t see them in the calculations here Could
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city staff clarify if the retaining walls are being taken into account or how is that calculation
being done
Auseth The retaining walls should not be included in the hard cover
Fred Bruning And they are not
Papke Okay So we re cool there So what are you really asking for
Fred Bruning Well the back of their home they had it was an engineered system Because of
the I mean it s 30 feet of grade It was engineered that they put hard surface right up to these
retaining walls and actually drained that water through the wall and get it to that lower level To have the soils that are open and right now they have pavers but the amount of water that s gone
through those pavers is still eroding the soil and they have to make some modifications to change
that but to have that open gives you when the soils become saturated you get a 30 foot column
of water Hydrostatic pressure in 30 feet I mean it s tons per square foot on that wall and so
what was determined to do is actually protect it You know like the top of the mountain when you see mountains erode Put a hard surface on top Take that water past the erosion point Past
that steep grade so it wouldn t carry the fine silts and sand down the hill
Keefe So is that part of your scope of work to do that To put it additional in
Fred Bruning No They already had that engineered and installed to protect their home
Mark Ambrosen That was done fairly soon after we bought it because that s probably been in
over 10 years When we first moved in the walkout went out about 6 feet and then it was grass
and then it just dropped down there was nothing so we were getting erosion there
Keefe But am I clear They re not getting it s not being counted as a part of the
Fred Bruning Yes
Mark Ambrosen The 723 square feet
Fred Bruning The patio part of that system is being counted
Dillon And what s it made out of
Fred Bruning It s pavers
Mark Ambrosen At the top right hand corner
Fred Bruning That s the picture you have in the corner It goes out an average of I mean it s
the only back yard they have outside their door It goes in and out but the average is 12 feet
The in and out was necessary because the height of the wall you know they have a straight wall
Some articulation 4 to 5 is the wall
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Laufenburger I do have a question Mr Chair This may be for staff Is it correct for me to understand that the homeowner will be able to retain their existing coverage which is currently
25 7 So 7 over acceptable Will they be able to retain that if this is fully denied Because
that s a request that Mr Bruning is making in his yeah in his statement Number 4 Do you
understand the question
Al Jaff The applicant is requesting that they be allowed to retain it However that is a non
conforming situation It s a continuing non conformity because when the site was developed
that ordinance was in place
Laufenburger Okay so they re 7 over limit and it will be their responsibility to bring that back within limit
Al Jaff Correct
Laufenburger Okay Then one other question for I think this may be for you Mr Bruning In the staff report it reflects that there is 1 039 square feet of proposed reductions including dog
kennel changing pea rock etc You re familiar with those recommendations
Fred Bruning Correct
Laufenburger Okay And if you do those then then the compliance will be within the 25 So
you re familiar with those
Fred Bruning I am familiar with those I actually proposed them
Laufenburger Your idea
Fred Bruning Correct Mark and Ann are and I reiterate They re willing to suffer this
hardship The hardship isn t you know isn t the shape of the drive I mean having a narrow
driveway and backing down the driveway I mean the hardship is the lot The size of the lot The topography of the lot The shape that requires a long driveway If they didn t have those
factors it would be a non issue These are factors other properties don t have and are able to do
similar things that Mark and Ann are asking to do But because the uniqueness of this lot and
the combined factors on the small size creates the need for these things Creates the need for a
long driveway Creates the need for this retaining wall patio system That is the hardship And they re willing to suffer that hardship to have an addition I m just asking you guys not to make
them suffer it you know
Laufenburger They like living there don t they
Fred Bruning Yeah Yeah they do
Laufenburger That s it Mr Chairman
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Papke Kathleen
Thomas Not right now
Papke Kevin
Dillon So in your letter here you know the Carver County web site shows that 20 of 32 residences are over the 25 hard cover
Fred Bruning Yeah one three houses down looks like it s about 55 60 hard cover
Dillon Well looks or is
Fred Bruning Well I don t know do you have it up On the south side go down 3 houses
Right there If you look at the one that s right below the E in Maple They have a 4 car garage
A tuck under in back You know you do the calculation You can t tell for sure something has
plastic under it but just looking at the hard concrete surfaces that s over 50
Dillon So question for the staff How do we kind of get in this spot I mean I can t tell if that s
50 or not from here but if you know we knew that their lot s 25 7 today and that s over the
25 It s kind of a newer home How did that get by way back in the day
Auseth Unfortunately without somebody coming in and requesting a building permit or a
permit to do this it s difficult for staff to keep tabs on all of those which again is why the zoning
permit was put into place So that patios sheds under 120 square feet small retaining walls
those have to come in for a permit now so that we can avoid these situations in the future
Dillon Okay So then since this is so close to the lake and the hard surface variance is being
asked for have any of the local water authorities or lake authorities weighed in on this
Auseth We sent out referrals for to the DNR and the watershed and have not heard back from
them
Dillon I know we ve seen responses from them in the past so when they do not respond does
that mean they don t care or they just haven t gotten around to it yet
Jeffery Chairman Papke Commissioner Dillon I have spoken with Michael Wyatt of the Watershed District The way the Watershed District rules are set up they do not oversee the
shoreland regulations The City has that authority granted to them by the commissioner of the
DNR While they generally not favor increasing the hard cover they are not in a position to
regulate that increase They can only regulate storm water treatment features on that or obvious
erosion control issues that would exist on the property
Dillon Okay And then just to kind of build on the question that Denny asked So if we ve got
some proposed reductions that the applicant has put forth and it would get everything into
compliance kind of like why are we here I mean you know if the applicant s putting them in
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there and they get us under the 25 I know maybe it s not the best solution that the homeowner
would like but it seems to me to be a pretty reasonable compromise
Fred Bruning Does the whole and I can read a section of the variance code The whole idea of
variances is to allow people to have a reasonable use that s comparable to what their neighbors
have To recognize conditions that all lots aren t equal That sometimes you have and it
specifically names lot topography the shape and size Usually when I go through the variance process I have one of those factors This property actually has all three and it s just the variance
is a means to allow them a reasonable use that other properties have Their lot demands a long
driveway Their lot demands some mitigation to the elevation topography change in the back
Take for example the ones towards the mouth of Maple Shores Drive They don t need any of
those considerations Their lots are wide enough that their house can be close enough to the street to have a short driveway They have level lots They don t need huge retaining walls
mitigation to runoff and erosion This is the whole point of recognizing unusual conditions of
lots Something I d like to add In the code itself division 3 in variances Section 20 58 Line
item 1 A third of the way down It recognizes that reasonable use includes a use made by the
majority of the comparable properties within 500 feet In my words here and looking at the aerial photos that s all we re asking for is a use that the majority of the homeowners within 500
feet of this property enjoy
Dillon Okay So then and this is again maybe directed towards the staff but what is the staff s
position about getting into alignment with the 25 7 down to the 25 What actions would if we deny all of this stuff tonight and kind of wash our hands of it as the planning commission what
then What are the next steps and how is that going to impact the homeowner
Auseth Well one of the conditions for the denial is that an as built survey be done But one of
the reasons is because staff worked with the applicant to approve the building permit for those additions prior to this evening s meeting so I m assuming that those additions will still be
constructed
Fred Bruning They re underway
Auseth And so if the variance is denied and staff talked with the applicant at length about this
that the as built survey would be required either way to make sure that the site complies with
whatever the Planning Commission decides on the variance
Dillon Those are all the questions I have
Papke Just one question from me The 25 7 that s there now that the applicant is asking for
was there any variance granted to achieve that So that in this particular case if I understand
things correctly the applicant exceeded the 25 accidentally or but So you re asking for
something that in your statement here you re asking to retain that However there was not granting of a variance to achieve that in the first place Just so we understand that
Fred Bruning No We re just asking to recognize a pre existing condition that the vast majority
of people around them
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Papke Pre existing that was
Fred Bruning 25 7
Papke city code by the applicant
Fred Bruning Which the majority of property owners within 500 feet also are in violation of
Papke For which we have no evidence other than your visual inspection of these aerial
photographs Just so we understand You know the Planning Commission has to make decisions
on the data we have in front of us The data that s on file in the city records and so on You know we can t make decisions on the basis of your visual observation of aerial photographs
Fred Bruning I understand My visual observation may be biased You could have staff look at
the same photos They re I mean you actually have I would suspect that this looks very similar
I suspect this is from the same web site They did the same calculation when they required us to do an as built To do a survey of the property The survey requirement and reducing the hard
cover to 25 that was very late in the process You know going through this whole process
you know the client s doing the addition The applications and everything It was a very late
thing to add You know I guess I just ask I ask you to think about it and consider the reason of it
you know Putting them in the situation to enforce their hard cover I mean some of these I mean look at some of these lots I mean if you guys are going to take the approach of pulling
them into compliance when you have neighbors like this that are I mean you don t even have to
do a survey to look at some of these and you know know that they re way over 25
Papke Anything else
Fred Bruning No I guess that s it
Papke Okay Thank you very much Appreciate it Anybody else like to speak Okay
Seeing none close the public hearing and bring it back to Planning Commission for comments and discussion
Undestad You know the comment about the neighbors or who s in compliance who s out of
compliance That s why we started the zoning ordinance You know we have no idea how many
people are out there that are over the 25 now but the idea is when people come to do this kind of stuff or add a patio or a shed or anything that s when this stuff is caught and then we have
that opportunity to fix it Unfortunately that s what this is Somebody came in for the permit
application for an addition and oh by the way you know we re already over it before we start so
As far as the use of the house you know I m not sure what everybody else has inside their house
in the neighborhood I don t think that really matters the way it lays out here so You know again what I see here is something that Commissioner Dillon brought up later is the variance for
the driveway or the hard surface or anything again for neighborhoods like this you know just
one right after another one s going to come in and want the round about s and the turn around s
so I guess I m kind of siding with staff on this one
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Papke Okay thank you
Keefe Yeah I m struggling with the hardship Really what it is and I think reasonable use is
probably I think these guys probably have reasonable use so that s kind of where I come down
on it
Laufenburger One of the things that I m thinking about is the engineered patio The 723 square
feet I think but even if you disallowed that considered that not part of the impervious they re
still over so I appreciate their attention to attempting to keep the erosion down but even if that
was considered pervious they would still be over I don t know I look at that and like you Mr
Chairman we don t know that that house is over 25 Visually it looks like it and if I was a neighbor I would be upset that how can they do that But that s not our job Our job is to
enforce the code of the City of Chanhassen and so therefore enforcement of the code is where I
would settle too
Papke Thank you Kathleen
Thomas I think everyone has said it well and enforcement of the code is what the important part
is so that we don t have more of these same issues or people coming in and asking the same
thing and saying well what s 3 What s 4 That kind of stuff so I agree
Dillon You know I think on page 6 of the package we got here under the paragraph that calls
compliance I mean it kind of nets it out pretty well for me The applicant has demonstrated that
the goals of the homeowner to add onto the home can be achieved without the need for the
variance It s my perception that that s mostly what they want is to increase the living space
here and it sounds like they can get that and you know kind of can change the dog kennel Change the pea rock You know make the gas grill thing eliminate that Yes a little bit smaller
on the turn around things but it kind of sounds like it would get at the public safety issue of the
backing out all the time and so it would seem to me that that would be the best win win situation
is to deny the variance but say go ahead with this other stuff We wouldn t even have to say go
ahead with it It sounds like it s already in play
Papke Well said The only thing I d add to all the discussion so far is I appreciate the
challenges that the homeowner has with the topography on this lot We have a lot of these
situations in Chanhassen However on the flip side this is almost 2 3 of an acre and I think
there s plenty of opportunity here for other alternatives I think with the driveway we ve seen that several neighbors have equivalent or more challenging back out s and there s plenty of
alternatives to do gravel turn around or something like that where pervious surfaces are I m
sorry The public hearing is closed now So I think there s the applicant does not have a
hardship from the perspective that there are many alternatives that could be employed to stay
within city code in this case So anyway that s all I have to add So with that I ll entertain a motion
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Undestad I ll make a motion That the Chanhassen Planning Commission denies Planning Case
08 24 for a 3 7 hard surface coverage variance on Lot 7 Block 1 Maple Ridge Addition and adoption of the attached Findings of Fact and Action and subject to conditions 1 through 4
Papke Is there a second
Dillon Second
Undestad moved Dillon seconded that the Chanhassen Planning Commission denies
Planning Case 08 24 for a 3 7 hard surface coverage variance on Lot 7 Block 1 Maple
Ridge Addition and adoption of the attached Findings of Fact and Action and subject to the
following conditions
1 The site must comply with the 25 maximum hard surface coverage requirement as
outlined in the City Code
2 Excess hard surface coverage must be removed and revegetated no later than May 31 2009
3 An as built survey signed by a registered land surveyor is required and must be
submitted no later than June 15 2009 to ensure compliance
4 Final building inspection will not be approved until verification of compliance
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6 to 0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Commissioner Thomas noted the verbatim and summary minutes of Planning Commission meeting dated November 18 2008 as presented
COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS None
Chairman Papke adjourned the Planning Commission meeting at 7 35 p m
Submitted by Kate Aanenson
Community Development Director
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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t o r e f l ec t o v e r s o m e o l d d a t a . Y o u k n o w I w a s n ’t t oo s u r e b u t I a ss u m e d J e r r y y o u m ea n 2008
a n d 2008 a n d 2009 w i n t e r p r o g r a m m i ng , c o rr e c t ?
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e q u i p m e n t s o m e w h e r e i n t h e .
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s p e n d i ng s o m e d o ll a r s t o k i n d o f b a n d -a i d t h a t t h r oug h u n t il w e c a n g e t t h a t i d e n t i f i e d i n 2012 .
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a g a i n t h e y ’r e a l l o n t h e l o w e r s i d e . I t ’s t h e s e c o n c r e t e r e a l l y e l a b o r a t e p a r k s w h e r e .
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t h a t ’s t h e o n l y o n e I k n o w o f r i g h t o f f t h e t o p o f m y h ea d .
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H o ff m a n : T h e y c a n b e i f t h e y ’r e n o t b u i l t c o rr e c t l y f r o m t h e f r o s t , y e a h .
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s o m e b od y i n t h e c o mm u n i t y t h a t ’d s t e p up a n d s a y w e ’ll pu t t h a t i n b u t .
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t h e y ’v e o p e n e d up a r e t a il l o ca t i o n i n C h a n h a ss e n a s w e ll .
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J o h n's o u t o n G a l a x y s o t h a t ’s t h e s a m e g r o up .
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d o e s n ’t , t h e y s a i d w e ’ll b e c a ll i ng y o u s o .
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b e c a u s e w e w o u l d n ’t h a v e e n o ug h t h e r e t o a dd r e ss i t .
H o ff m a n : C o rr e c t .
S t o l a r : O k a y .
S c h a r f e n b e r g : T h e $400 ,000 i n r e v e n u e s t h a t y o u ’r e p r o j ec t i n g o u t . W h a t i s t h a t b a s e d up o n ? I s
i t b a s e d up o n b u i l d i ng p e r m i t s t h a t w e ’r e s e e i n g o r w h a t a r e w e u s i n g f o r p r o j ec t i n g t h a t t y p e o f
i n c o m e ?
H o ff m a n : W e ’r e g o i n g , w e ’r e t r e n d i n g d o w n f r o m , i t ’s b u i l d i ng ac t i v i t y .
S c h a r f e n b e r g : R i g h t .
H o ff m a n : S o y o u ’r e a t t h e t w o m ill i o n a n d t h e n t h e 741 a n d t h e n 435 a n d w h a t w e ’r e b a s i ng t h a t
o n i s 2008 w e t h i n k w il l b e a s imi l a r y ea r t o 200 9 , a n d t h e n a f t e r t h a t i t ’s j u s t y o u k n o w t r e n d i ng
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i t o u t . W e h a v e n o r ea s o n t o t r e n d i t up . Y o u k n o w s h ou l d w e t r e n d i t d o w n ? W e ’r e j u s t
k ee p i n g i t f l a t a t a c o n s e r v a t i v e l e v e l o f 400 ,000 . I t ’s a l l o n b u i l d i ng p e r m i t ac t i v i t y .
S c h a r f e n b e r g : F r o m j u s t t h i s l a s t y ea r o r k i n d o f o v e r t h e l a s t 2 y ea r s o r ?
H o ff m a n : F r o m 2008 . Y o u k n o w w e ’r e s a y i ng w e d i d 435 a n d I h a v e n o r ea s o n t o m o v e t h a t
up . W e t h i n k w e ’r e g o i n g t o b e v e r y s imi l a r t o t h a t i n 2009 a n d i n t o t h e f u t u r e , i f t h e h o u s i n g
m a r k e t c o m e s b ac k , t h a t ’s g o i n g t o c o n t i n u e t o g o up b u t i f y o u t a k e a l oo k , a l l t h e d e v e l op m e n t s
y o u c u rr e n t l y s ee o u t t h e r e , a ll t h e r o o f t o p s a n d a l l t h e h o u s e s t h a t a r e , s t r e e t s t h a t a r e g r a d e d i n .
T h e y ’v e a l r ea d y p a i d t h e i r f u l l p a r k d e d i ca t i o n . W e n o l o n g e r c o ll e c t a s t h e h o u s i n g b u il d i ng
p e r m i t s c o m e i n . I t ’s a l l up f r o n t s o K .H o vn a n i a n , t h e L i b e r t y o n B l u ff C r ee k , t h e y ’v e p a i d
100 %. R y l a nd b ac k i n t h e i r d e v e l op m e n t , t h e y p a i d 100 %. A n y i nd u s t r i a l b u il d i ng t h a t ’s g o i n g
up , t h e y p a y 100 % r i g h t up f r o n t s o . I t h a s t o b e a r a w p i ece o f l a n d , v ac a n t p i ece o f l a n d i n
o r d e r t o h a v e f u t u r e a b i l i t y t o g e n e r a t e p a r k d e d i c a t i o n d o ll a r s . I n c l o s i n g , b e f o r e I m o v e i n t o t h e
a d mi n i s t r a t i v e s ec t i o n l a s t n i g h t t h e c o u n c i l a g a i n a pp r o v e d n e x t y ea r ’s b udg e t . 2009 o p e r a t i o n
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ca p i t a l i m p r o v e m e n t s p r o j ec t s a n d w e ’ll b e r e v i e w i ng s o m e o f t h o s e w i t h t h e c o mmi ss i o n a s w e
m o v e f o r w a r d . T h e y w e r e a l s o v e r y c o m p l i m e n t a r y o f t h e s t r a t e g i c p l a n t h a t t h e c i t y m a n a g e r
o p e r a t e s t h r o ug h o u t t h e y ea r a n d a l l o f t h e d e p a r t m e n t h ea d s a n d t h e s t a f f s o w e w a n t t o m a k e
s u r e t h a t a ll o f o u r s t a f f t h a t i s r e p r e s e n t e d h e r e t o n i g h t r e c o gn i z e s t h a t l a s t n i g h t t h e C i t y
C o u n c il g a v e v e r y g l o w i ng r e v i e w s o f t h e j o b p e r f o r m a n ce o f a l l c i t y s t a f f t h r o ug h o u t t h e y ea r .
T h e y w e r e v e r y c o m p li m e n t a r y s o I w a n t t o j u s t p u b l i c l y t h a n k t h o s e f o l k s a n d l e t y o u k n o w h o w
m u c h w e a pp r e c i a t e t h e j o b t h a t t h e y d o . T h e f o u r p e o p l e i n t h i s r oo m , f i v e w i t h J o h n , r e p r e s e n t
e v e r y t h i ng t h a t w e d o i n r ec r ea t i o n , s e n i o r p r o g r a mm i ng , t h e r ec r e a t i o n c e n t e r a n d p a r k a n d t r a il
m a i n t e n a n c e a n d s o t h o s e a r e b i g t h i n g s o n a d a i l y b a s i s . I k n o w a s c o mmi ss i o n e r s y o u
r ec o gn i ze t h a t v a l u e a n d I t h i n k o u r c o mm u n i t y a s a w h o l e d o e s , a n d w e h a v e a v e r y s t r o n g
o r g a n i za t i o n . V e r y w e l l p o s i t i o n e d c o mm u n i t y . L i z w a l k e d h o m e t h i s e v e n i ng f r o m w o r k f r o m
E x c e l s i o r . S h e b a tt l e s s n o w d r i f t e d r o a d s a n d ca r s i n E x c e l s i o r a n d S h o r e w o o d a n d w h e n s h e
g e t s t o C h a n h a ss e n s h e s a i d t h e t r a il s a r e p l o w e d . M y c o mm e n t w a s t h a t ’s b eca u s e w e a r e a f u ll
s e r v i c e c o mm u n i t y a n d w e p r o v i d e t h o s e go o d qu a l i t y p u b l i c s e r v i c e s a n d s o h a t s o f f t o D a l e a n d
h i s c r e w f o r t h a t a n d a s o n e s a t i s f i e d c u s t o m e r t h a t w a l k e d h o m e f r o m w o r k s o . T h a n k s t o a l l
o u r s t a f f .
S t o l a r : T o d d i n t h e b udg e t , d i d i t i n c l ud e e l i m i n a t i n g t h e M a p l e L e a f t h e n ?
H o ff m a n : I t ’s o n a h o l d p a t t e r n s o w e ’r e g o i n g t o t a l k a b o u t i t , y e p . I n 2009 .
D a n i e l : T h e M a p l e L e a f a s t h e c i t y ’s s y m b o l ?
H o ff m a n : N o , j u s t t h e M a p l e L e a f p u b l i ca t i o n .
D a n i e l : O h t h e M a p l e L e a f , go t c h y a … O k a y , I s upp o s e w e ca n m o v e o n t o t h e a d mi n i s t r a t i v e
a s p ec t o f t h i s T o d d .
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H o ff m a n : T h e b r o c h u r e o n t h e b ac k , m a k e s u r e y o u s e n d p e op l e t o G o C a r v e r G o . V e r y e a s y t o
acce s s . G r e a t p r o g r a m f o r h e a l t h a n d w e l l n e s s b e n e f i t s . H a v e y o u n o t i ce d t h e b e n c h e s o n
K e r b e r B o u l e v a r d ?
D a n i e l : I d i d . I s a w t h e m i n s t a l l t h e m . I w a l k e d p a s t t h e m a n d t h e y w e r e ce r t a i n l y w o r k i n g v e r y
h a r d .
H o ff m a n : G r ea t p r o j ec t .
D a n i e l : A n d I t h o ug h t t h e r e w a s o n l y g o i n g t o b e 2 b u t t h e y pu t i n 3 .
H o ff m a n : 3 .
D a n i e l : Y e p , o k a y . B eca u s e t h e y h a d t h e o n e f r o m t h e s e n i o r h o m e .
H o ff m a n : Y e p . O n e a t R a v e n P a r k .
D a n i e l : R a v e n P a r k a n d t h e o n e o n t o p o f K e r b e r B o u l e v a r d . W o n d e r f u l . O h i t l oo k s g r e a t .
H o ff m a n : Y e a h , g r ea t k i d . H e d i d a n i c e j o b .
D a n i e l : T h e y r e a ll y w e n t a ll o u t . T h e y h a d t h e b a g o f c e m e n t . E v e r y t h i ng w a s a ll s e t s o I h o p e
i t ’s g o i n g t o b e o n e o f t h o s e l a s t i n g E a g l e p r o j e c t s . A n d t h e n a n y t h i ng e l s e ?
H o ff m a n : C o mmi ss i o n m e m b e r r e po r t s o r p r e s e n t a t i o n s ?
D a n i e l : O k a y . I s ee t h i s i s t h e f i r s t t im e I’v e s e e n K e v i n ’s p a i n t i ng b y t h e w a y . R i g h t h e r e .
H o ff m a n : H e y , t h e r e y o u go .
D a n i e l : I h a v e n o t s ee n i t y e t .
H o ff m a n : T h e o r i g i n a l i s o v e r a t t h e L e g i o n .
D a n i e l : A n y f ee d b ac k ? I h a v e n ’t e v e n h a d a c h a n ce t o t a l k t o h i m a b o u t i t . A s f a r a s t h e
p a i n t i n g ?
H o ff m a n : T h e p a i n t i n g ?
D a n i e l : A n d h o w i s i t s e l l i ng a s f a r a s r a i s i ng f u n d s f o r ?
H o ff m a n : …p e o p l e li k e i t . T h e m e m o r i a l w il l b e f i n i s h e d up i n t h e m o n t h o f , a b o u t A p r i l 15 th t o
M a y 15 th a n d t h e n i t w i l l b e d e d i ca t e d o n M e m o r i a l D a y . We ’l l l oo k f o r t h a t .
D a n i e l : A l r i g h t , w e l l t h a n k y o u T o d d .
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AD M I N I S T RA T I V E P AC K ET: N o n e .
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m ee t i n g . A ll vo t e d i n f avo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a r r i e d un a n i m o u s l y w i t h a vo t e o f 7 t o 0 .
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
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MEMORANDUM
TO Todd Hoffman Park Recreation Director
FROM Jerry Ruegemer Recreation Superintendent
DATE November 17 2008
SUBJ Changing Lake Ann Field 3 from a Multi Use tacility to a
Designated Youth Little League Field
PROPOSED MOTION
The City Council approves conver ion of Lake Ann Ball Field 3 from a multi
purpose field to a dedicated youth Little League field
Approval of this item requires a simple majority vote of those City Council
members present
The City of Chanhassen takes great pride in providing first class athletic facilities to
the youth and adults of our community As our community population grows we
have an increasing need to provide additional or sports specific facilities The Little
League Baseball program has experienced substantial growth and the Chanhassen
Athletic Association CAA has approached the city requesting that we convert
Lake Ann field 3 from a multi purpose field to a youth baseball field
For many years Lake Ann field 3 has been used primarily by CAA for boys
baseball during the spring and summer seasons For the first time this past fall the
CAA girls softball program used this field two times per week for their program If
the decision is made to convert this field a different location for girls softball will
need to be identified
In order to convert this field it will be necessary to erect a fence at a distance of
225 ft and replace the ag lime infield with a grass infield The biggest project
expense will be the outfield fence Discussions have taken place between staff and
fencing contractors to look at cost savings It has been determined that the existing
outfield fence posts and 8 ft wire fence can be reused Changing the infield to grass
can occur after the summer season concludes in July so that there would not be any
interruption during the baseball season
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Mr Todd Hoffman
November 17 2008
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The following is an estimate of expenses as it relates to fencing sod and irrigation
Fencing
Irrigation
Sod for infield
Total
4 000
500
500
5 000
The Chanhassen Athletic Association is willing to contribute to the project costs
The city is being presented with an opportunity to address a specific need for a
growing segment of our youth sporting population The timing is good because the
primary user of the field has been youth baseball and with minor modifications a
second official little league field will be ready for use by next spring
PARK RECREATION COMMISSION REVIEW 11 25 08
The Park Recreation Commission considered whether to convert Lake Ann Ball
Field 3 from a multi purpose field to a designated Little League field at their
November 25th meeting The commission discussed staff s recommendation and
heard from the audience which only included a representative from the Chanhassen
Athletic Association
Initially it was estimated that the conversion would cost approximately 8 500
However after furtherreview it was determined that the existing fence posts and
8 ft fence could be reused Additionally the Chanhassen Athletic Association
stated that they will contribute 5 000 toward the project and it is staff s intention to
complete the conversion within this amount
Following discussion the Park Recreation Commission recommended that the
City Council approve converting Lake Ann Ball Field 3 from a multi purpose
facility to a designated youth Little League field The CAA will present their 5 000
donation at a future City Council meeting
ATTACHMENTS
1 Field Layout
2 Letter to Athletic Associations
3 Park Recreation Commission Minutes dated November 25 2008
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www cLchanhassen mn us
November 17 2008
Mr Mark Williams
Tonka Babe Ruth
1655 Lake Lucy Road
Excelsior MN 55331
Dear Mark
The City of Chanhassen is committed to providing quality athletic facilities for youth and
adults in our community Establishing and maintaining our athletic facilities has always
been a high priority As our community continues to grow so does our need for
additional sport specific facilities
One age group that has seen a large increase in participation is Little League baseball
Since only a small number of baseball fields cunently existin our city parks the city is
considering converting field 3 at Lake Ann Park to a youth baseball field Currently
field 3 has been designated as a multi purpose field and has primarily been used by
youth baseball and youth softball The Chanhassen Park Recreation Commission
would like to invite your organization to a public meetiIlgtodiscuss this proposal on
Tuesday November25 at 7 30 p m at Chanhassen CityHall in the City Council
Chambers 7700 Market Boulevard
If you are unable to attend the meeting and would like to share your comfuents please
e mail me at jruegemer@ci chanhassen rrm usor call meat 952 227 1121
Sincerely
Jeny Ruegemer
Recreation Superintendent
JR k
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Mr Mark Williams
Tonka Babe Ruth
1655 Lake Lucy Road
Chanhassen MN 55317
Mr Todd Neils
Chanhassen Athletic Association
990 Saddlebrook Curve
Chanhassen MN 55317
Mr Greg Zimprich
St Hubert s
2861 Timberview Trail
Chaska MN 55318
Ms Jessica Santjer
Chapel Hill Academy
306 West 78th Street
Chanhassen MN 55317
Ms Therese Douglass
Minnetonka Girls Softball
3980 Vandan Road
Minnetonka MN 55345
Mr Pete Jones
Tonka MVB Baseball
4300 Chimo East
Deephaven MN 55391
Mr Paul Mattiacci
East Tonka Little League
18904 Hanus Road
Minnetonka MN 55345
Mr Mike Mattson
Chaska Area Youth Baseball Association
P O Box 444
Chaska MN 55318
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Ruegemer 5 00 o clock
Hoffman 5 00 o clock here at City Center Park And the following morning on Sunday the 6th
is the Breakfast with Santa at the Chanhassen Recreation Center sponsored by the Rotary and the
City of Chanhassen So watch for those events and look for that ribbon cutting in the spring out
at Liberty on Bluff Creek
Daniel And one more
Hoffman That s three Mr Chair
Daniel Oh Okay
VISITOR PRESENTA TIONS None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Scharfenberg moved Campion seconded to approve the
verbatim and summary minutes of the Park and Recreation Commission meeting dated
October 28 2008 as presented All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with
a vote of 5 to O
PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER CHANGING FIELD 3 AT LAKE ANN PARK
FROM A MULTI USE FACILITY TO A DESIGNATED YOUTH LITTLE LEAGUE
FIELD
Public Present
Name Phone Number
Todd Neils
Chad Erickson
952 401 8950
952 470 5118
Daniel Looks like we have some guests here and public here to consider changing Field 3 at
Lake Ann Park from a multi use facility to a designated youth Little League field Jerry
Ruegemer Thanks Chair Daniels Just wanted to talk about that tonight We do have two
representatives from the Chanhassen Athletic Association tonight and Mr Todd Neils is here and
Mr Chad Erickson are here We ll go through the staff report In looking we ve been kind of
an evolving department and facility provider here for a number of years We ve looked at Lake
Ann through been in our system for a lot of years It s time to kind of take a look at you know
the numbers that we ve had in certain segments of our population and community in athletics
and this field at Lake Ann has been used as a multi purpose field you know back a number of
years was adult softball primarily Then when Fields 4 5 and 6 came on line we pretty much
shifted all the adults over to the longer fields This primarily became kind of a youth multi
purpose field that we played you know girls softball on and primarily has been used for boys
baseball In the last oh probably 3 to 5 years primarily it s been baseball for that And through
the years we re always taking a look at suggestions made by our local athletic associations
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There certainly is a need for this size of a field This would be somewhat of a mirrored image of
Field 2 that s currently at Lake Ann and so it s time to take a look at that because that certainly
is a growing segment of our sporting community at this time What we re proposing to do if
you look on I think it s in your packets as well I have colored photos if you guys would like to
see that What we re proposing to do is as the CAA brought up at a previous meeting and I put
together just a little aerial photograph kind of illustrating kind of the scope of the project So
we re talking about currently right now the field the current fencing stands at 268 feet What
we re talking about doing is proposed to move that in 60 feet or be a total distance of225 feet
What we d do then is in the staff report we re proposing to use the existing poles or posts that
are already existing Take those out and then re set those at the new proposed fence distance at
225 feet We had talked about matching the fence heights to Field 2 That was the reasoning for
the 6 foot height for that but in conversations tonight it may not be a steadfast rule or regulation
by Little League to have a 6 foot fence or somewhere in that proximity and we may be able to
use the existing 8 foot fencing that we currently have
Stolar Because I think Bennett has 8 foot fencing on a couple of their fields
Ruegemer So we ll take a look at that but in the cost estimates that I had in the staff report that
was based on moving the current post in to a distance of225 feet and then re installing brand
new 6 foot fabric and then along with a couple new corner posts and an entry point Those two
new posts for that and those would be concreted in The rest would be air put in by air or kind
of air driven in versus having individual concrete footings for that so that s a little bit better for
frost and is a little bit quicker to put in and that sort of thing as well So looking at that you
know propose to do a sod infield as well and we ll do that kind of in this proximity right in there
Minor modifications would need to be made with the irrigation system to kind of trench that into
the interior of the infield area in this kind of proximity That cost estimate I think was around
1 000 for the irrigation part of that and roughly around 800 for the sod And we had talked
about last year not to interrupt the spring and summer seasons that work could be performed
after the completion of the 2009 seasons so those typically are over with by the end of July so
anywhere from end of July until we have snow on the ground we can complete the sod work and
irrigation work on that infield And it sounds like the athletic association here tonight would be
okay with that process to get that done I think the most important piece of the project would be
to get the fencing in by next the start up of next year If the proposal is approved or
recommended tonight we re pretty much on time at this point with frost going into the ground
now but you know that work can be done in 2 3 days next spring to ensure that there wouldn t
be any interruptions for the season next year So it s a fairly easy task to accomplish if that s
what the commission would like to do in converting that field so That s kind of the scope of the
project It s staffs recommendation that we recommend the City Council to approve the project
and we move forward on that
Daniel Excellent Thank you Jerry Guys any questions
Stolar Just one The lights that we just installed Is that going to still be useful where they re
at That far away from the fence I assume it lights the whole field as it is now
Hoffman No change in needing the lighting
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Stolar And what are you going to do with the extra spacing then on the 60 feet there we ll just
leave it open grass and such
Hoffman Also there s an opportunity in the right field comer to there s a real drainage problem
there we ve struggled with for many years There s a chance to do some work there and also a
chance or an opportunity to expand parking Ifwe move into an enhanced picnic shelter and
ballfield concession stand up above this field it s just right above that comer We would have
the opportunity to expand parking by doing some work on that comer of this field so if this is
shorten we would foresee bringing forward as future plans to do some work Perhaps a retaining
wall and some fill in that comer Some drainage tile and then if we added a parking lot so it
some opportunities The rest of it would just be left as grass Similar to what you see at Field 2
right now There is a batting cage that was installed there because we additional room on Field
2
Daniel I do have one question Jerry Is it it looks like you re moving the home plate back
about 20 feet or so
Ruegemer Yeah that s those are just real rough we didn t have bases on the field so our GIS
person just put some white dots on the field itself The field we can readjust if we need to but I
would assume that the base pegs home plate and all that stuff would be the same as it is today
Daniel Oh it is Okay I was just curious because I m doing the math and where it s at right
now and not using that as a scale No no I m just talking about
Ruegemer That s real rough because 225 feet certainly would be for the fence line it would be
from home plate
Daniel Okay
Ruegemer Those are for discussion purposes
Hoffman Not to scale
Daniel Anybody else Steve Tom
Kelly Did you get any negative feedback from anyone that you copied on this letter
Ruegemer I haven t heard from anybody from the list Yea or nay on that Either through
voice mail or email
Kelly Okay
Ruegemer I would assume that the our audience members would be in favor of that that are
here tonight
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Kelly How about the group that used the field in the fall
Stolar The girls softball
Ruegemer That s part of the Chanhassen Athletic Association
Stolar Todd have you heard any concerns
Todd Neils From our softball Two years ago we made the decision to move softball primarily
to Chan Rec to as it s a community for the girls that are in coach pitch to senior league softball
and the fields are appropriately sized and there isn t as much need for fencing
Stolar Okay So this thing this last fall the two times per week you get the
Ruegemer Or some other location and that was really the first time I think that they played
girls softball in the fall
Scharfenberg Fall ball was this fall yep
Ruegemer This past year so Yeah that was one of those you know scheduling I think that did
happen this year that we could find alternative areas for
Daniel No conflict Jerry with soccer
Ruegemer That
Daniel Was not used for soccer at all
Ruegemer We can find other locations yeah for that
Daniel Okay Excellent And I assume Todd do we need to make a motion
Recommendation to City Council Okay For approving this Anybody like to make a motion
Scharfenberg I move to approve the project as proposed
Stolar Second
Scharfenberg moved Stolar seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission
recommends that the City Council approve changing Lake Ann Field 3 from a Multi Use
Facility to a Designated Youth Little League Field All voted in favor and the motion
carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to O
Stolar We didn t ask about what the actual contribution You did read the small writing that
said all of it
Todd Neils The Chanhassen Little League reiterates it s intent to donate 5 000
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Stolar For the record thank you That s nice of you guys I think this will be a good project for
all of us
Todd Neils Thank you
2009 PICNIC RESERVATION FEES
Ruegemer We did review the picnic evaluation at our last meeting and we are going to look at
the picnic fees now Have been getting some phone calls and I have made some reservations
already for 2009 For next year Basically we re kind of quoting the current rates for that but
it s my intention or recommendation tonight that we keep the fees the same Kind of with our
economic kind of point that we re at right now I think it d be wise to keep the fees the same
We did change the names already in the computer system and that sort of thing as well so really
at this point I just want to make a recommendation that the Park and Rec Commission
recommend to the City Council that our fees remain the same in 2009 as they were in 2008 and
those fees would be attached or on the back side of the staff memo
Hoffman Almost universally across the city fees are staying at 2008 rates in 2009 There are a
few exceptions but not very many
Daniel And I really see no I mean there really wasn t any regardless of economic conditions
Jerry I mean the price I think based off of what we discussed last year fell in line anyways and
we had good success this year so
Ruegemer Yeah the commission really took a hard look at them last year and kind of
simplified the whole process and simplified picnic categories and that certainly made it easier
for staff to communicate that information to our customers and it as really both two thumbs up
on that picnic categories the way we had it in 2008 so it was a good thing That s why I really
wanted to kind of recommend that we stay the same
Daniel Excellent Dan you have any questions
Campion None
Daniel Glenn Steve
Scharfenberg No
Kelly No
Daniel I m alright We should make a motion to approve the 2009 picnic reservation fees
Stolar So moved
Campion Second
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
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Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
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Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
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MEMORANDUM
TO Todd Hoffman Park Recreation Director
FROM Jerry Ruegemer Recreation Superintendent 1R DATE December 2 2008
SUBJ Volunteer and Service Award Recognition Program
PROPOSED MOTION
The City Council approves the Park Recreation Volunteer and Service A ward
Recognition Program as recommended by the Park Recreation Commission
Approval of this item requires a simple majority vote of those City Council
members present
As part of the approved 2008 Key Financial Strategies the City Council asked staff to
develop a program recognizing volunteers who contribute their time and resources to park
and recreation functions Staff developed and modeled an awards program based on the
current Environmental Excellence Award Program This conceptual model was reviewed
by the City Council at their August 25 2008 work session Staff was directed to take the
conceptual program to the Park and Recreation Commission for eir review
PARK RECREATION COMMISSION REVIEW 12 9 08
The Park Recreation Commission reviewed the Volunteer and Service Award
Recognition Program at their December 9th meeting After review the commission added
a fourth category to include school groups from Districts 276 and 112 who have
completed a special project or provided a service to the community With that addition
the Park Recreation Commission recommends that the City Council approve the
Volunteer and Service Award Recognition Program
ATTACHMENTS
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Park Recreation Volunteer and Service Award Recognition Program
Park Recreation Commission Minutes dated December 9 2008
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
PARK AND RECREATION
VOLUNTEER AND SERVICE AWARDS
Park Recreation Volunteer Service Awards are provided by the City of
Chanhassen to recognize individuals businesses community groups or school groups
for their contributions to the community These awards are designed not only to
recognize achievement but also to enhance the lives of our citizens through giving of
themselves
PROGRAM GUIDELINES
Park and Recreation Service Awards will be presented in each of the following
categories
A Resident
B Business
C Community Groups and Organizations Schools
D Groups representing schools in Districts 276 112
All entries submitted or nominated must meet the following criteria
1 Activities and benefits must occur within the city limits
2 Volunteering or special projects must be performed between January 1
and December 31 2009
APPLICA nON PROCEDURE
1 Any community member is eligible for the Volunteer and Service Awards
2 Complete the application form and attach any supporting documentation
3 Applications are due by November 1 2009
4 Mail application materials to
City of Chanhassen
Attn Jerry Ruegemer
7700 Market Blvd
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Or fax to 952 227 1110
Or e mail to irueaemer@ci chanhassen mn us
If you have any questions please contact Jerry Ruegemer at 952 227 1121
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PARK AND RECREATION VOLUNTEER AND
SERVICE AWARD APPLICATION FORM
Application Deadline is November 1 2009
Name
Address
Phone Number Category
If in Category B C or D
Name of Business Community Organization or school
Volunteering Description
Release of Information
The City of Chanhassen reserves the right to use the award winners for promotional purposes through
newspaper articles the city website or other means I agree to allow the city to use my name and the
description of my volunteering project This release is only valid for winning entries
Signature
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PARK AND RECREATION VOLUNTEER AND
SERVICE AWARD CATEGORY INFORMATION
Cate90rv A
Resident A resident or individual who has volunteered for a community park and
recreation activity or service project or other related activity
A Sample of Eli9ible Activities
1 Volunteering for a community park and recreation activity service
project or special event through another group or agency such as a local
athletic association scouting group etc
2 Enhancing the City s park system e g a community group or individual
who takes on a special project that adds to the amenities of the City s
park system
3 Sponsorship Financial Support e g providing financial support
sponsorship or dedicating business resources to the betterment of a
park and recreation or community program or activity
4 Other e g additional initiatives or dedicated service to the Park and
Recreation Department or the community of Chanhassen
CateQorv B
Business A local business who has taken the initiative to become involved in a special
project a special event or a recreation program through either working the event
dedicating their business resources or providing financial support or sponsorship to
the city
A Sample of Eli9ible Activities
1 Volunteering for a community park and recreation activity service
project or special event through another group or agency such as a local
athletic association scouting group etc
2 Enhancing the City s park system e g a community group or individual
who takes on a special project that adds to the amenities of the City s
park system
3 Sponsorship Financial Support e g providing financial support
sponsorship or dedicating business resources to the betterment of a
park and recreation or community program or activity
4 Other e g additional initiatives or dedicated service to the Park and
Recreation Department or the community of Chanhassen
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CateQory C
Community Groups and Organizations A group that has completed a special project
or provided a service to the community that has directly benefitted the city
A Sample of Eli9ible Activities
1 Volunteering for a community park and recreation activity service
project or special event through another group or agency such as a local
athletic association scouting group etc
2 Enhancing the City s park system e g a community group or individual
who takes on a special project that adds to the amenities of the City s
park system
3 Sponsorship Financial Support e g providing financial support
sponsorship or dedicating business resources to the betterment of a
park and recreation or community program or activity
4 Other e g additional initiatives or dedicated service to the Park and
Recreation Department or the community of Chanhassen
CateQory D
Groups Representing Schools in Districts 276 112 School groups who have
completed a special project or provide a service to the community that has directly
benefitted the city
A Sample of EIiQible Activities
1 Volunteering for a community park and recreation activity service
project or special event through another group or agency such as a local
athletic association scouting group etc
2 Enhancing the City s park system e g a community group or individual
who takes on a special project that adds to the amenities of the City s
park system
3 Sponsorship Financial Support e g providing financial support
sponsorship or dedicating business resources to the betterment of a
park and recreation or community program or activity
4 Other e g additional initiatives or dedicated service to the Park and
Recreation Department or the community of Chanhassen
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CHANHASSEN PARK AND
RECREA TION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
DECEMBER 9 2008
Chairman Daniel called the meeting to order at 6 30 p m
MEMBERS PRESENT Jeff Daniel Tom Kelly Glenn Stolar Steve Scharfenberg Scott
Wendt Thor Smith and Dan Campion
STAFF PRESENT Todd Hoffman Park and Rec Director Jerry Ruegemer Recreation
Superintendent John Stutzman Recreation Supervisor Susan Bill Senior Center Coordinator
Jodi Sarles Recreation Center Manager and Dale Gregory Park Superintendent
APPROVAL OF AGENDA Stolar moved Wendt seconded to approve the agenda
amended by Todd Hoffman to add a conversation about the updated park dedication fund
history projections under Administrative Reports All voted in favor and the motion
carried unanimously with a vote of 7 to o
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS None
VISITOR PRESENTATIONS None
VOLUNTEER RECOGINITION PROGRAM
Ruegemer Thank you Chair Daniels The rest of the commission good evening As part of the
approved 2008 Key Financial Strategies the council did ask staff to develop a program
recognizing volunteers who contribute their time and efforts to the city Recreation functions
and other programs that we have Staff did develop the kind of this model It was reviewed
conceptually back in August at the City Council From that point there was some directive some
changes made to the model for the Park and Rec Commission s review and that s what we re
here to do tonight to take a look at the volunteer recognition program to kind of look at the
categories The criteria information pertaining to the volunteer program Make the necessary
changes and updates tonight and then staff will then forward it onto City Council for their
consideration and approval So tonight staff is recommending that the Park and Rec
Commission review and finalize the volunteer service award recognition program And then
after that staff again will forward it to City Council for their final consideration
Daniel Okay Just for clarification Todd that this was separate from I do believe what s the
other community service award that we participate in or at least the City has
Hoffman Environmental Service
Daniel No
Stutzman You mean the Rotary
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Daniel The Rotary I think it s the Rotary Okay Just want to make sure
Ruegemer For the Person of the Year
Daniel Yes
Ruegemer Yeah that would be a separate program and this is somewhat modeled on the
Environmental Excellence Award We re probably going to try to keep it somewhat consistent
with other city award programs
Hoffman Environmental Service Awards were presented last night to individuals A
neighborhood and an individual that s working on the Lotus Lake watershed and the
neighborhood was the Lake Riley Woods neighborhood for rain gardens They planted eight
rain gardens in their neighborhood and those were the Environmental Service Award winners
last night
Daniel Wonderful Questions Comments Thor
Smith None right now Come back to me later
Daniel Okay Dan
Campion I have none
Daniel Glenn
Stolar Just one question I was wondering if we could separate out schools from community
groups and organizations just so you aren t having the Rotary compete against Key Club I was
just wondering if that would be I don t know what environmental does but I was just thinking
that there can be such a vast difference in those It d be nice to recognize the school people who
make sure they have a category that they get It s a suggestion
Ruegemer Would there be enough school groups out there do you think that would merit having
a fourth category
Stolar Well we had the Minnetonka Seniors do the project last year We had Key Clubs from
two schools I believe have helped us
Stutzman Ah yes Holy Family just helped us out It wasn t the Key Club but student
volunteers did
Stolar Volunteers So I don t know Maybe it would encourage it We can always change it
later too I m just saying that at some point maybe to give them their own
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Hoffman The council also wanted us to look at even broader than that To incorporate people
that do things for athletic associations so we may want to as you work through your
conversation tonight take a look at that as well
Daniel I think we can certainly put that language in there I mean the community groups or
organizations I assume like the Chanhassen Athletic Association would fall under that Them
real in general especially under the park and recreation aspect of it But I like Glenn s thought
because certainly there is we have associations like what the CAA does plus on some of the
other both athletic and other recreation organizations out there but also the schools especially
give recognition officially I suppose or some sort of nod to a lot of the volunteer activities that
the schools do
Stolar Plus you re going to have the high school opening up soon
Daniel Exactly
Stolar We ll have a bunch of different groups that will want to come in
Kelly Is there any limit to the number of awards that can be awarded for each category One
per category per year or is it unlimited
Hoffman We would try to do one per category per year I know last night they awarded two of
the three categories They didn t have a candidate in the one
Stolar Right I mean I expect we wouldn t necessarily have a candidate in each of those It
depends on who gets nominated but just one So it d be a max of 4 per year then under the
Daniel Thanks Glenn Steve
Scharfenberg Todd does the City have or do they recognize employees short of this program
but do they have a recognition program for staff members that do anything
Hoffman No
Scharfenberg Would it be you know one thing to think about is to include staff as part of that
because we have a lot of staff that does a lot of things I think above and beyond their normal
duties in terms of recreation programs and stuff so I would throw that out as a consideration too
And then to get to Glenn s question of if there is do we have a role in terms of determining
winners or not
Hoffman Yes
Scharfenberg Okay So I m assuming if there s more than 2 in one category we talk that out
and come up with a decision Okay
Daniel Excellent Scott
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Wendt What a great idea I like really like the idea of adding a fourth category for schools
especially with the new high school opening up so looks good
Daniel And Tom anything else you want to add
Kelly No You answered my question
Daniel Okay Well I think this is a fantastic program and certainly in the park and recreation
area as I mentioned earlier this would be a good opportunity for us to recognize a number of
both community organizations as well as residents and businesses I mean and going back to
what I said earlier about schools I think that s something that we could certainly put into as a
separate category At least that would be I think what I d be in favor of seeing As far as any
are there going to be any type of advertisements How do we go about notifying the public of
these activities Or these awards I should say Excuse me
Hoffman It d be advertised similar to what the Environmental Service Awards are put in the
paper Put in our community Connection Maybe some direct mailings out to the schools
Daniel Okay
Hoffman Other organizations
Stolar The web site
Daniel Obviously all for 2009 so this is something that we will then have to vote in November
of next year or October I assume Do a review and we ll make the presentation in November
Okay
Hoffman It s a last night at the council meeting these are there are a lot of people that come in
for them and it s good publicity Good press So it s a combination of factors It s recognizing
some people and but it also inspires others to continue in the good work that they ve started in
and then for others to jump on board and do some good things so
Daniel Yeah And there are a number of other categories we could certainly add I mean but I
think the four will basically touch I think each of the important volunteer portion and I think
that s the critical portion I think Steve you bring up a very good point about the city employees
and staff within the city of Chanhassen I don t know if necessarily this might be the forum but I
assume Todd maybe down the road that there is some
Hoffman If the Council wanted to do that they would do it most likely on a more uniformed and
universal basis
Daniel More so then just a recreation
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Hoffman We do an internal one for service awards at our annual social for our employees Our
annual recognition dinner so
Daniel Excellent Well it sounds like we need to make a recommendation I assume I certainly
would have liked to see something to the effect of us at least adding schools as a fourth category
Scharfenberg I don t know I think if you ve got schools in there you re going to have if it
turns out that we ve got an over abundance of schools participating I think you know we can
always change it I would say just keep it with the 3 for right now and see how things go
Daniel Well do we want to maybe re evaluate after 2010 then
Wendt I don t think we re not limited to the number it doesn t say that we have to give just
one award either
Daniel Each of the following categories
Ruegemer Well that was the thought process was one award
Wendt Didn t you say you gave two last night
Hoffman Three categories last night One didn t
Wendt Oh okay I thought you meant there was 2 within the same
Hoffman No
Wendt Okay
Stolar Would there be anything that would prevent us if it turns out we do want to split that in
the voting next year from doing that I mean we re still collecting from people It s not like
we re changing it
Hoffman Yeah I think we want to move forward with either 3 or 4 as a decision because once
we start printing this stuff up
Daniel You want to be consistent
Hoffman Come in and then we decide we re going to split it council s not going to they re
going to say it s not what you advertised There might be some cross over You might have an
individual at either a community group or an organization school that could be recognized as a
resident They might do something affiliated with the school They might lead some special
project You could recognize them as a resident and so that would provide some cross over
Campion Maybe if schools were broken off it could be schools or youth contributor award type
thing
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Kelly Is there any there s no monetary value to this at all It s just a certificate I mean I don t
see the I mean I don t see the need to limit it If you get 3 or 4 really good residents that 1
don t see a need to limit it to one per category per year I think if you expand it to take into
account more than 1 per category then the idea of splitting the schools goes away because now
you don t have to that s not I don t see the need to limit it to 1 per category if you get some
great residents or businesses that really contribute because there is no monetary value so you re
not taking away budgets It s just I mean this here is to recognize really good community
contribution That s my two cents
Hoffman I believe the environmental ones are limited to 1 and not it s just to keep it exclusive
and then also not to run out of if we could give out 40 awards the first year 10 awards or 15
awards and then you re quickly going to run out of potential candidates over time Businesses
especially
Daniel I think that s actually a critical point In looking at it I think we want to make if you do
make it inclusive enough to a certain extent or something that is set as far as on a goal It s
certainly not on the minds of any of these people who are volunteering It s frankly the furthest
after thought that they ll have but I think at the end of the day if it gets there s some meaning
behind it based off this limited amount that have been the limited amount of rewards that are
there then certainly it gives that much more of a reward I think to a certain extent
Wendt And if in the future we had two great candidates we could probably talk about it at that
time when it comes up right and call them so But for now on the 3 versus 4 can we take a vote
between us what we want to do
Daniel We can certainly do that I guess as far as those who are in favor of having the school as
a separate category
Hoffman Somebody needs to put a motion to the floor and you either vote it up or down
Daniel For the the school as a fourth category
Stolar Alright so I ll move that we take staff s recommendation but amend it to add a fourth
category of schools
Campion Second
Stolar moved Campion seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend
that the City Council approve the Park and Recreation Volunteer and Service Recognition
A wards with the following categories Resident Business Community Groups and
Organizations and Schools All voted in favor except Scharfenberg who opposed and the
motion carried with a vote of 6 to 1
Daniel Well then we ll certainly move forward with that based off of Commissioner Stolar s
recommendation and move onto old business
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Scharfenberg Do we have to move to adopt staff s recommendation with that
Stolar That s what I did I proposed it as an amended motion
Daniel Yep
Stolar Probably not Robert s Rules of Order but close
Hoffman You ll see the nominations You ll work through them Make a recommendation to
the council and then typically one or two of the commissioners assist with the awarding of the
certificates that evening so you can look forward to that next year
Stolar We ll have Steve give the school s one
Daniel Okay
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CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
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MEMORANDUM 1 TO Paul Oehme Director of Public Works City Engineer
Alyson Fanske Assistant City Engineer rJ f
January 12 2009 a
FROM
DATE
SUBJECT 2009 Street Rehabilitation Improvement Project No 09 0 I Accept
Feasibility Report and Call the Public Hearing
PROPOSED MOTION
The City Council is recommended to adopt the feasibility report for the 2009 Street
Rehabilitation Project and Call the Public Hearing for January 26 2009
City Council approval requires a simple majority vote of the City Council present
BACKGROUND
Staff and City Council reviewed the proposed 2009 Street Improvement Project areas at
the October 13 2008 work session
City Council authorized the preparation of the 2009 Street Improvement Project at the
October 27 2008 City Council meeting
For the 2009 Street Improvement Project staff is proposing to rehabilitate approximately
3 1 miles of streets including
Project Area I Urban Residential
Chaparral Court
Chaparral Lane
Redwing Court
Redwing Lane S of Kerber Blvd
Pima Lane
Pontiac Lane
Pontiac Court
Buckingwood Court
Project Area 2 Rural Residential
Lakota Lane
Mandan Circle
V ogelsburg Trail
Project Area 3 Commercial Industrial
West 78th Street Hwy 101 to City Limits
77th Street
West 18ih Avenue
Quattro Drive
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The street segments within the proposed project were identified by the City s Pavement Management
software in conjunction with site investigations The proposed improvements generally consist of milling
and overlaying the pavement surface removal and replacement of severe pavement distresses and minor
drainage improvements within the project areas The project also includes miscellaneous sidewalk and
concrete curb and gutter replacement at various locations throughout the City and the replacement of the
TH 5 pedestrian trail from Dell Road to TH 101
The original proposal presented to City Council in October 2008 included directionally boring a
replacement sewer forcemain within 77th Street Subsequently in November 2008 there was a break in
the watermain within 77th Street Given the condition of the exposed watermain staff requested funding
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to replace the waterrnain within 77th Street using the directional bore process Once funding was granted
staff felt that the utility improvements within 77th Street should be bid separately from the 2009 Street
Improvement Project therefore the replacement of the sanitary sewer forcemain within 77th Street is not
proposed under this project
The City of Eden Prairie has budgeted to overlay Dell Road north of Highway 5 A portion of this road
lies within the City of Chanhassen specifically the western lane between the northern Chanhassen City
Limits to Highway 5 The City of Eden Prairie estimates that Chanhassen s share of the overlay cost is
75 000 This work is proposed to be paid entirely through City funds therefore is not included in this
project or the proposed assessment roll
A neighborhood open house was held on November 12 2008 Over 27 property owners attended the
open house The following summarizes the residents questions issues
How long will the project take to complete
Will I have access to my property during construction
Why can t this project wait
Why doesn t the City pay 100 of the project cost
Will the assessment amount change
How are the assessments paid
Why was my street chosen for improvements
I do not want the proposed sidewalk
All of the residents questions were answered at the meeting or with a follow up phone call
The proposal presented at the open house included a sidewalk connecting the north south and east west
segments of Kerber Boulevard to Meadow Green Park The entire cost to construct the sidewalk was
proposed to be assessed to the units within the medium density project area
The residents present at the open house overwhelmingly objected to the proposed sidewalk therefore
Staff sent a questionnaire to the property owners who would be assessed for the sidewalk construction
asking their opinion The following summarizes the neighborhood response
Number of questionnaires sent 249
Number of responses 135
Opposed to sidewalk construction 120
54 responded
89 of those who responded
Based on the neighborhood feedback staff recommends eliminating the sidewalk construction from the
project
Residents at the end of Lakota Lane requested that the area of the cul de sac be increased Currently the
pavement area of the cul de sac is only approximately 40 feet in diameter which requires a passenger
vehicle to make a three point turn to turn around Staff proposes that the project incorporate the
construction of a standard 90 foot diameter cul de sac at this location including the necessary right of
way acquisition
Public hearing notices will be mailed to property owners on January 14 2009 if this item is approved
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A copy of the feasibility report is available in the Engineering department
SCHEDULE
The anticipated project schedule is as follows
Public Hearing Order Plans Specifications
Approve Plans Specifications Order Ad for Bid
Assessment Hearing
Project Begins
Substantial Completion
FUNDING
January 26 2009
February 9 2009
Apri127 2009
May 2009
August 2009
The Engineering staff prepared the feasibility report Staff proposes to prepare the construction plans and
documents and perform the construction observation for the proj ect The benefit of completing this work
in house is a 85 000 to 100 000 savings in the project cost
Forty percent 40 of the street rehabilitation cost will be assessed to the benefiting property owners
The remainder of the project cost will be paid from the storm sewer enterprise fund and revolving street
assessment account
Fundinl Source
Revolving Assessment Fund
Assessments and City Share
Storm Sewer Fund
Total Funding
Amount
1 225 000 00
50 000 00
1 275 000 00
The estimated assessments for the benefitting residential properties are as follows
Proiect Area
la Low Density Urban Residential
1 b Medium Density Urban Residential
2 Rural Residential
Estimated Assessment per Feasibility Report
1 432 64 per unit
634 30 per unit
2 430 75 per unit
The total assessments for Project Area 3 Commercial Industrial are estimated to be 126 210 As
outlined in the feasibility report properties within this project area are proposed to be assessed based on
parcel acreage which is summarized as follows
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Paul Oehme
January 12 2009
Page 6
Assessable Percentage of Total Estimated Property Address Property Area Assessable Assessment Property Area
7580 Quattro Drive 1 71 acres 2 56 3 234
7600 Quattro Drive 2 37 acres 3 55 4 483
7640 Quattro Drive 3 91 acres 5 86 7 395
7700 Quattro Drive 2 18 acres 3 27 4 124
18400 77th Street 6 59 acres 9 88 12 465
18780 77th Street 13 32 acres 19 96 25 195
7770 Dell Road 0 875 acres 1 31 1 655
18800 West 78th Street 18 34 acres 27 49 34 690
18930 West 78th Street 7 45 acres 11 17 14 092
78 West 78th Street 3 91 acres 5 86 7 396
80 West 78th Street 2 67 acres 4 00 5 050
City Properties 3 4 acres 5 10 6 431 2 total
66 725 acres 100 126 210
Attachments 1 CIP Pages
2 Resolution
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Capital Improvement Program
City of Chanhassen MN
2009 thru 2013
Project ST 012
Project Name Annual Street Improvement Program
Account 1 601 0000 4751 Account 3
Account 2
Contact Paul Oehme
Department Street Improvements
Type Improvement
Useful Life Unassigned
Category Streets Highways
Priority n a
Total Project Cost 7 400 000
Description I
Annual project to rehabilitate and reconstruct streets in the City Current 5 year plan shows the following neighborhood areas
Residential 2009 Chaparral W 78th St Quattro Dr Dell Rd Lakota Ln and Vogelsburg Tr
2010 Erie Ave area Red Cedar Pt and Audubon Rd Lk Dr to Lyman
2011 Carver Beach Rd Timberwood Saratoga Santa Vera Chippewa Picha and Kerber S ofW 78th
2012 Greenbriar Fir Tree Elm Tree Dogwood and Shore Drive
2013 Frontier Tr Highland to W 77th Great Plains W 78th to Santa Fe W 77th Erie Ave N ofW 77th Highland E of
Laredo and Greenwood Shores
MSA 2011 West 78th Street Powers to Market
Justification I
The City uses a Pavement Management System to monitor the condition of the City streets While proper preventative maintenance extends the
life of the street and is cost effective a street will eventually deteriorate to a point that further maintenance is no longer cost effective
Rehabilitation projects extend the life ofthe street In cases with utility or poor subgrade needs to be replaced or where streets have deteriorated to
a point where rehabilitation will no longer be practical reconstruction of the street is necessary A feasibility study is written to consider the merits
of the project and scope of work
Expenditures
Construction
2009
1 300 000
1 300 000
2010
1 900 000
1 900 000
2011
1 500 000
1 500 000
2012
1 500 000
1 500 000 Total
Funding Sources 2009 2010 2011
Assessment Revolving Assess 1 300 000 1 900 000 1 200 000
MSA 300 000
Total 1 300 000 1 900 000 1 500 000
2012
1 500 000
1 500 000
Operational Impact Other I
This project may decrease maintenance costs
2013
1 200 000
1 200 000
Total
7 400 000
7 400 000
2013
1 200 000
Total
7 100 000
300 000
7 400 000 1 200 000
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Capital Improvement Program
City of Chanhassen MN
2009 thru 2013
Contact Paul Oehme
Department Surface Water Management
Account 1 720 0000 4702 Account 3
Type Improvement
Useful Life Unassigned
Category SWMP
Priority nla
Project SWMP 019
Project Name Street Improvement Projects Storm Water Mgmt
Account 2
Total Project Cost 850 000
Description I
An annual amount set aside for storm water management infrastructure construction or expansion associated with street improvement projects
undertaken by the engineering and public works departments
Justification I
Street improvement projects frequently require construction or expansion of storm water management infrastructure in order to comply with
federal state and local regulations as well as protecting existing and proposed development adjacent to the projects
Expenditures
Construction
2009
50 000
50 000
2010
400 000
400 000
2011 2012
400 000
400 000
2013 Total
850 000
850 000 Total
Funding Sources
Surface Water Utility Fund
Total
2009
50 000
50 000
2010
400 000
400 000
2011 2012
400 000
400 000
2013 Total
850 000
850 000
Operational Impact Other I
Inventory inspection and maintenance of new infrastructure will be required Citywide No map
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES MINNESOTA
DATE January 12 2009 RESOLUTION NO 2009
MOTION BY SECONDED BY
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING FEASIBILITY STUDY CALL PUBLIC HEARING
FOR THE 2009 STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NO 09 01
WHEREAS pursuant to resolution of the Council adopted October 27 2008 a report has
been prepared by the Engineering Department Staff with reference to the above referenced project
and this report is being received by the Council on January 12 2009 and
WHEREAS the report provides information regarding whether the proposed project is
necessary cost effective and feasible
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED by the Chanhassen City Council
1 The Council will consider the improvement of such project in accordance with the report and the
assessment of abutting property for all or a portion of the cost of the improvement pursuant to
Minnesota Statutes Chapter 429 at an estimated total cost of the improvements of 1 275 000
2 A public hearing shall be held on such proposed improvement on the 26th day of January 2009
for the 2009 Street Improvement Project in the Council Chambers of City Hall at 7 00 PM and the
clerk shall give mailed and published notice of such hearing and improvement as required by law
Passed and adopted by the Chanhassen City Council this 12th day of January 2009
ATTEST
Todd Gerhardt City Manager Thomas A Furlong Mayor
YES NO ABSENT
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
ie
MEMORANDUM
TO Todd Gerhardt City Manager
FROM Karen Engelhardt Office Manager
DATE January 12 2009
SUBJ Approval of Temporary On Sale Liquor License Chanhassen
Rotary Club February Festival February 7 2009
PROPOSED MOTION
The Chanhassen City Council approves the request from the Chanhassen
Rotary Club for a temporary on sale intoxicating liquor license to sell alcoholic
beverages at the February Festival on February 7 2009 on Lake Ann The fee
for said license shall be set at 1
Approval of this request requires a simple majority vote of those City Council
members present
The Chanhassen Rotary Club has submitted an application for a temporary on sale
intoxicating liquor license for the annual February Festival on February 7 2009
on Lake Ann They plan to sell beer and hot chocolate with peppermint schnapps
on the ice This is the first year that the Rotary Club will be selling beverages at
this event The Rotary has submitted liquor liability insurance covering this
event
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends approval of the Chanhassen Rotary Club s request for a
temporary on sale liquor license for the February Festival on Saturday February 7
on Lake Ann Additionally it is recommended that the fee be set at 1
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Minnesota Department of Public Safety
ALCOHOL AND GAMBLING ENFORCEMENT DIVISION
444 Cedar Street Suite 133 St Paul MN 55101 5133
651 201 7507 Fax 651 297 5259 TTY 651 282 6555
WWW DPS STATE MN US
APPLlCA nON AND PERMIT
FOR A I TO 4 DAY TEMPORARY ON SALE LIQUOR LICENSE
TYPE OR PRINT INFORMATION
NAME OF ORGANIZATION
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STREET ADDRESS
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TAX EXEMPT NUMBER
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NAME OF PERSON MAKING APPLICATION
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Location license will be used If an outdoor area describe
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Will the applicant contract for intoxicating liquor service If so give the name and address of the liquor licensee providing the service
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APPLICATION MUST BE APPROVED BY CITY OR COUNTY BEFORE SUBMITTING TO ALCOHOL GAMBLING
ENFORCEMENT
CITY COUNTY DATE APPROVED
CITY FEE AMOUNT LICENSE DATES
DATE FEE PAID
SIGNATURE CITY CLERK OR COUNTY OFFICIAL APPROVED DIRECTOR ALCOHOL AND GAMBLING ENFORCEMENT
NOTE Submit this form to the city or county 30 days prior to event Forward application signed by city and or county to the address
above If the application is approved the Alcohol and Gambling Enforcement Division will return this application to be used as the License for the event
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
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MEMORANDUM
TO Todd Gerhardt City Manager
FROM Jill Sinclair Environmental Resource Specialist
DATE oW January 12 2009
SUBJ MnDOT Landscape Partnership Grant Agreement Resolution
PROPOSED MOTION
The City Council approves the attached resolution entitled MnDOT
Community Roadside Landscaping Partnership Program Authorization
Resolution State Project 1009 969 TH 101 187
City Council approval requires a simple majority vote of City Council
DISCUSSION
Staff is requesting approval to enter into a Community Roadside Landscape
Partnership Grant Agreement with the Minnesota Department of Transportation
MnDOT As part of the application the City is requested to pass a resolution
regarding the City s commitment to a partnership agreement with the MnDOT
The landscape project was initiated last year at the request of the residents who
live in the area of the Hwy 101 South realignment Staff contacted MnDOT with
a letter of interest in their Landscape Partnership Program The city was approved
and landscaping was installed in the area in the spring This year s project
extends the landscaped area to further meets the needs of the neighborhoods A
draft plan is being developed by MnDOT and the residents
Funding for this project will be provided by MnDOT Covered under the grant
will be the plants compost wood chips and rodent guards The total project cost
has not yet been determined The city will assist with requesting bids for the plant
materials selecting the approved bidder taking delivery of the plants storing the
plants providing a water truck on the day of planting and augering the holes
The residents will commit to providing all of the labor on planting day to include
planting watering and mulching all of the trees and shrubs and then watering the
plants throughout the first season and as needed beyond They will also monitor
the plants and contact MNDOT with any maintenance needs
RECOMMENDA TION
Staff recommends that the City Council adopt the following motion
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The City Council approves the attached resolution entitled MnDOT Community
Roadside Landscaping Partnership Program Authorization Resolution State Project
1009 969 TH 101 187
Attachment Resolution
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES MINNESOTA
DATE Januarv 12 2009 RESOLUTION NO
MOTION BY SECONDED BY
MN DOT COMMUNITY ROADSIDE LANDSCAPING
PARTNERHIP PROGRAM AUTHORIZATION RESOLUTION
TH 101 GAP PROJECT NO 04 06 STATE PROJECT 1009 969
NOW THERE BE IT RESOLVED that the City of Chanhassen will act as sponsoring
unit for the project identified as State Project 1009 969 on the State Trunk highway 101 to be
conducted during the period January through June 2009
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED Jill Sinclair is hereby authorized to apply to the
Minnesota Department of Transportation for funding of this project on behalf of the City of
Chanhassen
Passed and adopted by the Chanhassen City Council this 12th day of January 2009
ATTEST
Todd Gerhardt City Manager Thomas A Furlong Mayor
YES NO ABSENT
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
MEMORANDUM
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FROM
DATE
SUBJ
Todd Gerhardt City Manager
Karen Engelhardt Office Manager Ii
January 12 2009
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Request for an Off Sale Intoxicating License Kleinprintz Liquors
LLC dba MGM Liquor Warehouse 7856 Market Boulevard
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Staff recommends that the City Council adopt the following motion
The City Council approves the request of Kleinprintz Liquors LLC for an
off sale intoxicating liquor license for MGM Liquor Warehouse at
7856 Market Boulevard
Approval of this request requires a simple majority vote of those City Council
members present
On December 8 2008 the City Council approved an off sale intoxicating liquor
license for JDK Liquors Inc for the existing MGM Liquor Warehouse at
7856 Market Boulevard Jason and Danette Kleinprintz are the owners of JDK
Liquors Inc and own two other MGM Liquor Warehouse locations in Waconia
and Spring Park In addition to JDK Liquors Inc Mr Kleinprintz also is an
owner of Kleinprintz Liquors LLC along with his father Michael E Kleinprintz
During the closing on the property Mr Kleinprintz s attorney recommended that
the liquor license be issued to Kleinprintz Liquors LLC the financial division
instead of JDK Liquors Inc the operating division Since Kleinprintz Liquors is
a separate legal entity it is necessary that we go through the entire licensing
process agam
The Carver County Sheriff s Department has completed a background
investigation on the applicants Jason Kleinprintz and Michael Kleinprintz
including criminal history driving records and outstanding warrants The checJ s
revealed no concerns regarding the applicants Additionally a Carver County
Sheriff s Office in house database search found no relevant offenses regarding
their operation in Waconia and contact with the Orono Police Department
revealed no on going issues or violations associated with their operation in
Spring Park
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Mr Todd Gerhardt
January 12 2009
Page 2
A public hearing notice was published in the Chanhassen Villager and sent to all
property owners within 500 feet of the site see attached list As of the date of
this writing staff has not received any comments from the public
RECOMMENDA TION
Staff recommends that the City Council approve of the request from Kleinprintz
Liquors LLC for an off sale intoxicating liquor license for the MGM Liquor
Warehouse at 7856 Market Boulevard
ATTACHMENTS
1 Location Map
2 Public Hearing Notice and Mailing List
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Location Map
MGM Liquor Warehouse 7856 Market Boulevard
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES MINNESOTA
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
REQUEST FOR AN OFF SALE INTOXICATING LIQUOR LICENSE
KLEINPRINTZ LIQUORS LLC DBA MGM LIQUOR WAREHOUSE
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Chanhassen City Council will hold a public
hearing on Monday January 12 2009 at 7 00 p m in the Council Chambers at 7700 Market
Boulevard to consider issuing an off sale intoxicating liquor license to Kleinprintz Liquors LLC
dba MGM Liquor Warehouse located at 7856 Market Boulevard This is an existing liquor store
that will be under new ownership
All interested persons may appear and express their opinions regarding this application at
said time and place Chanhassen City Code requires that all property owners within 500 feet of
the site be notified in writing If you have any questions please feel free to contact Karen
Engelhardt at 952 227 1104
Todd Gerhardt
City Manager
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
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MEMORANDUM
TO Todd Gerhardt City Manager
FROM Sharmeen AI Jaff Senior Planner
DATE January 12 2009
SUBJ Request for Minor PUD Amendment to allow a Drive thru Window
and Site Plan Amendment to add a Drive thru Window
Planning Case 08 22
Staff recommends the City Council adopt the following motions
PROPOSED MOTIONS
The Chanhassen City Council approves the Planned Unit Development
Amendment Design Standards for Arboretum Village to allow a drive thru on
Lot 2 Block 1 Arboretum Shopping Center with standards shown on page 10
of the staff report dated January 12 2009
And
The City Council approves the Site Plan Amendment for Arboretum Shopping
Center Site Plan 03 06 Planning Case 08 22 to allow a drive thru window
and redesign parking layout and site circulation subject to conditions 1 4 shown
on page 11 of the staff report dated January 12 2009 and adoption of the
attached Findings of Fact Action
City Council approval requires a simple majority vote of City Council
CITY COUNCIL SUMMARY
On November 10 2008 the City Council reviewed and tabled action on this
application The applicant was directed to work with staff to achieve a solution
that staff can support The applicant revised the plans accordingly
ATTACHMENTS
1 Findings of Fact and Action
2 Staff Report Dated January 12 2009
3 City Council minutes dated November 10 2008
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES MINNESOTA
FINDINGS OF FACT
AND ACTION
INRE
Application of Mark Leutem KLMS Group LLC for the following
Request for Minor PUD Amendment to allow a drive thru window a site plan amendment to
add a drive thru window and a variance to the required number of parking spaces on property
zoned Planned Unit Development
On October 21 2008 the Chanhassen Planning Commission met at its regularly scheduled
meeting to consider the application of Mark Leutem KLMS Group LLC for a Planned Unit
Development Amendment Site Plan Amendment and Variance The Planning Commission
conducted a public hearing on the proposed application preceded by published and mailed notice
The Planning Commission heard testimony from all interested persons wishing to speak The
Planning Commission recommended denial of the request
The City Council reviewed the item at the November 10 2008 meeting and tabled action on the
request The City Council reviewed the item again at the January 12 2009 meeting and now
makes the following
FINDINGS OF FACT
1 The property is currently zoned Planned Unit Development District
2 The property is guided by the Land Use Plan for Commercial
3 The legal description ofthe property is Lot 2 Block 1 Arboretum Shopping Center
4 In evaluating a site plan and building plan the city shall consider the development s
compliance with the following
a Consistency with the elements and objectives of the city s development guides including
the comprehensive plan official road mapping and other plans that may be adopted
b Consistency with this division
c Preservation of the site in its natural state to the extent practicable by minimizing tree
and soil removal and designing grade changes to be in keeping with the general
appearance of the neighboring developed or developing areas
d Creation of a harmonious relationship of building and open space with natural site
features and with existing and future buildings having a visual relationship to the
development
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e Creation of functional and harmonious design for structures and site features with
special attention to the following
1 An internal sense of order for the buildings and use on the site and provision of a
desirable environment for occupants visitors and general community
2 The amount and location of open space and landscaping
3 Materials textures colors and details of construction as an expression of the design
concept and the compatibility ofthe same with adjacent and neighboring structures
and uses
4 Vehicular and pedestrian circulation including walkways interior drives and parking
in terms oflocation and number of access points to the public streets width of
interior drives and access points general interior circulation separation of pedestrian
and vehicular traffic and arrangement and amount of parking
f Protection of adjacent and neighboring properties through reasonable provision for
surface water drainage sound and sight buffers preservation of views light and air and
those aspects of design not adequately covered by other regulations which may have
substantial effects on neighboring land uses
5 Planned Unit Development Amendment
The proposed amendment to the PUD is consistent with the guidelines outlined within the
comprehensive plan
6 The planning report 08 22 dated January 12 2009 prepared by Sharmeen AI Jaff et aI is
incorporated herein
ACTION
The City Council approves the Site Plan Amendment and Planned Unit Development
Amendment 2008 22
ADOPTED by the Chanhassen City Council this 12th day of January 2009
CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL
BY
Its Mayor
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PC DATE October 21 2008
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CC DATE November 10 2008
January 12 2009
REVIEW DEADLINE January 17 2009
CASE 08 22
BY Al laff
PROPOSED MOTION
The City Council approves the Planned Unit Development amendment for Arboretum Village PUD
99 02 Planning Case 08 22 amending the design standards Section b Permitted Uses to allow a
drive thru on Lot 2 Block 1 Arboretum Shopping Center with standards as shown on pages 9 and
10 and approves an amendment to the Arboretum Shopping Center Site Plan Permit 03 06 subject to
conditions 1 through 3 on page 10
PROPOSAL Request for Minor PUD Amendment to allow a drive thru window and a site plan
amendment to add a drive thru window
LOCATION 7755 Century Boulevard
Lot 2 Block 1 Arboretum Shopping Center
APPLICANT Mark Leutem
KLMS Group LLC
7755 Century Boulevard
Chanhassen MN 55317
763 234 8128
markleutem@hotmail com
PRESENT ZONING Planned Unit Development PUD
2020 LAND USE PLAN Commercial
ACREAGE 1 58 DENSITY N A
LEVEL OF CITY DISCRETION IN DECISION MAKING
The City s discretion in approving or denying a site plan is limited to whether or not the
proposed project complies with Zoning Ordinance requirements If it meets these
standards the City must then approve the site plan This is a quasi judicial decision
The City has a relatively high level of discretion in approving rezonings PUDs and amendments
to PUDs because the City is acting in its legislative or policy making capacity A rezoning or
PUD and amendment thereto must be consistent with the City s Comprehensive Plan
Due to all the changes that have taken place since the City Council last reviewed this item
the staff report has been rewritten in its entirety
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Arboretum Shopping Center
Planning Case 08 22
January 12 2009
Page 2 of 11
PROPOSAL SUMMARY
The applicant is requesting a Planned Unit Development amendment to allow a drive thru in the
Arboretum Shopping Center development and a site plan amendment to add a drive thru
window
The site is located at the northeast intersection of Highway 5 and Century Boulevard and is
zoned Planned Unit Development It is intended to provide neighborhood commercial uses for
the adjacent residential properties to the north and east as well as retail services to motorists on
Highway 5 The site contains a building with an area of 5 506 square feet A convenience store
occupies 3 986 square feet The proposed Milio s restaurant will occupy the remaining 1 520
square feet The entrance to the convenience store is located along the northeast comer of the
building while the entrance to the restaurant is located along the west side of the building Staff
is recommending the entrance to the restaurant be relocated to the north
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Planning Case 08 22
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On October 21 2008 the Planning Commission held a public hearing to review the proposed
development The Planning Commission voted 4 to 1 to deny the request The reason for the denial
included the following
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Applicant s original layout
The layout proposed by the applicant will block people in on both sides of the stacking lane
Also if these parking spaces were empty stacked cars would block those spaces and prevent
people from parking in them
The applicant requested that the drive aisle leading to the drive thru window be counted as
three parking spaces The Planning Commission disagreed with the applicant since a car
cannot park in the drive thru lane
Pedestrians must cut through the drive thru lane
There are 50 Milio s stores in the nation Only 12 of the 50 have drive thru windows The
stores are still in business Other sandwich shops in the area Subway and Jimmy Johns do
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not have a drive thru and they are still in business
The layout that the city staff recommended does not fit the applicant s budget
The concern in 2003 was setting precedence This concern has not changed
One way traffic exiting through the gas station during rush hour when Nick and Willy s and
Jimmy John s are busy as well may complicate traffic flow
On November 10 2008 the City Council reviewed and tabled action on this application The
applicant was directed to work with staff to achieve a solution that staff can support
The applicant revised the plans accordingly
ANALYSIS
The request consists of two components
1 PUD amendment to allow a drive thru
2 Site Plan amendment to allow a drive thru window and drive and replace parking
PUD AMENDMENT
The current language in the PUD ordinance states
PERMITTED USES
The permitted uses within the neighborhood commercial zone should be limited to appropriate
commercial and service uses consistent with the neighborhood The uses shall be limited to
those as defined herein If there is a question as to whether or not a use meets the definition the
Planning Director shall make that interpretation The type of uses to be provided on this outlot
shall be low intensity neighborhood oriented retail and service establishments to meet daily
needs of residents Such uses may include small to medium sized restaurants no drive thru
windows office day care neighborhood scale commercial convenience store churches or
other similar type and scale uses as described in the Comprehensive Plan No single use shall
exceed 5 000 square feet
The applicant is proposing a drive thru window for a sandwich shop Milio s The window is
proposed to face Highway 5 Staffhad lengthy discussions with the applicant regarding the
drive thru window and explained that in order to support it it should meet design standards The
request appeared before the city council on November 10 2008 The City Council supported the
concept and directed the applicant to submit a plan that city staff can support
Staffhas always maintained a neutral stand on a drive thru in this specific location The site is
fairly removed from any immediate residential neighborhoods However staff believes that it
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should be designed in a fashion that does not negatively impact traffic circulation and operation
within the development Therefore staff recommends all drive thrus be limited to Lot 2 Block
1 Arboretum Shopping Center and meet the following standards
Drive thru facilities for any use shall comply with the following standards
a They shall not be located adjacent to any residential lot lines
b They shall be provided with a suitable visual screen from adjacent properties
c Stacking shall be provided within applicable parking lot setbacks
d Stacking shall meet the following standards
1 Fast Food Restaurant six cars per aisle
2 Banks three cars per aisle
3 Pharmacy two cars per aisle
4 All other uses two cars per aisle
e The City may require a vehicle stacking study to determine whether more or less stacking
shall be required for a particular use
t Stacking areas shall not interfere with vehicular circulation in the parking lot nor encroach
into any required drive aisles
g Speaker or intercom system shall not be audible at the property line
h A Fast Food Restaurant with a drive thru may not exceed 1 550 square feet in area
SITE PLAN ANALYSIS
Milio s Sandwich shop is interested in occupying the space There are currently two Milio s
shops in Eden Prairie one shop with a drive thru and the other without Staff visited the shop
with the drive thru on a week day and observed the traffic patterns for approximately 45 minutes
from 11 45 a m until 12 30 p m There were a maximum of six cars in the drive thru lane at the
time when staff was observing the site
Staff then visited the site in
Chanhassen and attempted to visualize
transforming it to accommodate a
drive thru window A layout was then
designed that can allow acceptable
traffic circulation on the site
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dedicated to the drive thru window
traffic moving one way and parking
spaces replacing those that have been
removed due to the placement of the
drive thru lane
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This layout was given to the applicant with detailed explanations of staffs concerns and the
reasoning behind it
Applicant s revised plan
Westwood Professional Services Inc submitted a plan on behalf of Leutem Property
Management LLC for site changes to the property located at 7755 Century Boulevard for the
installation of a drive thru facility The plan incorporates comments received from the October
2008 submittal
The applicant proposes to allow one way traffic along the west and south side of the building
Upon entering the one way aisle drivers can either enter the drive thru or the parking lot
A raised landscaped boulevard is proposed between the parking lot and the drive thru to provide
drivers with a visual distinction between the two areas
Additional 60 degree angled parking is shown on the south side of the building This parking
will replace parking spaces that are removed due to the location of the drive thru lane The
western three angled parking stalls must be striped and signed as compact stalls so that the
minimum 18 5 foot drive aisle requirement can be achieved
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The order board is shown on the west side of the existing building just north of the entrance
The pickup window is shown on the south side of the building The proposed improvements will
allow for four vehicles to queue at the order board including the vehicle at the order board and
four vehicles to queue between the order board and the pickup window including the vehicle at
the pickup window
The owner proposes to modify the curb layout on the west and south sides of the building to
accommodate the drive thru A 12 foot wide drive aisle is proposed for the drive thru Two
way traffic can still be accommodated on the 29 foot wide minimum drive aisle on the south
side of the building
The current outdoor patio located southwest of the building is proposed to be relocated northwest
of the building The Planned Unit Development allows a maximum hard surface coverage of
70 The existing hard surface coverage of the planned unit development is 68 3 The overall
green space on the site will be increased by 205 square feet
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Staff is proposing to relocate the patio and main entrance as shown in the above exhibit Moving
the entrance to the north will separate pedestrian from vehicular traffic Additionally it will also
reduce the hard surface coverage on the site and move the outdoor seating area farther from the
order box It is staffs opinion that the existing location of the entrance separates the use of this
space from the rest of the development Moving the door to the north will allow the space to
become part of the Arboretum Village Development
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PARKING TABULATIONS
The city s parking ordinance requires
One parking space for each 60 square feet of restaurant without an on sale liquor license
One parking space for each 200 square feet of retail
The parking for this site was approved with the original approval in 2003 The restaurant portion
of the building requires 25 parking spaces The remainder of the building which is a gas station
with a convenience store has an area of3 972 square feet which requires 20 parking spaces
Total parking required per ordinance is 45 spaces This number appeared to be excessive since
in all likelihood people buying gas will remain parked at the gas pumps walk into the store and
pay their bill and leave There are 16 parking spaces at the gas pumps Based upon that method
of calculation the City Council approved a total of 44 parking spaces The overall number of
parking spaces will remain the same Previously the applicant had requested a variance for the
overall required number of parking spaces The plans have been revised to replace the parking
which in turn eliminated the variance
The plan proposed by the applicant replaces all parking spaces that were removed due to the
location of the drive thru Parking spaces will be moved to the south portion of the site The
planned unit development ordinance governing this site allows parking spaces to encroach into
the 50 foot required setback if the parking is screened The proposed parking spaces will
maintain a setback of 20 feet from the southerly property line and are proposed to be fully
screened
SITE PLAN
NEW DRIVE THRU
WINDOW G C TO
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As stated earlier the applicant is proposing to add a drive thru window along the south elevation
of the building
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LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS
The applicant is required to buffer the parking stalls fronting Highway 5 and add landscaping
within the proposed island To screen headlights and views of the parking area shrubs will be
required along the parking area adjacent to Highway 5 The applicant has proposed 52 Techny
arborvitaes to be installed parallel to the curb line These evergreen shrubs will serve to screen
headlights from westbound Highway 5 Any existing bufferyard plantings that are removed for
the development must be replaced within the same area The applicant may group plantings
together in order to add interest to the landscaping if the design does not diminish the screening
capacity
SITE PLAN FINDINGS
In evaluating a site plan and building plan the City shall consider the development s compliance
with the following
1 Consistency with the elements and objectives of the city s development guides including the
comprehensive plan official road mapping and other plans that may be adopted
2 Consistency with this division
3 Preservation ofthe site in its natural state to the extent practicable by minimizing tree and
soil removal and designing grade changes to be in keeping with the general appearance of the
neighboring developed or developing areas
4 Creation of a harmonious relationship of building and open space with natural site features
and with existing and future buildings having a visual relationship to the development
5 Creation of functional and harmonious design for structures and site features with special
attention to the following
a An internal sense of order for the buildings and use on the site and provision of a
desirable environment for occupants visitors and general community
b The amount and location of open space and landscaping
c Materials textures colors and details of construction as an expression of the design
concept and the compatibility of the same with adjacent and neighboring structures and
uses and
d Vehicular and pedestrian circulation including walkways interior drives and parking in
terms of location and number of access points to the public streets width of interior
drives and access points general interior circulation separation of pedestrian and
vehicular traffic and arrangement and amount of parking
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6 Protection of adjacent and neighboring properties through reasonable provision for surface
water drainage sound and sight buffers preservation of views light and air and those aspects
of design not adequately covered by other regulations which may have substantial effects on
neighboring land uses
Finding The proposed development is consistent with the city s comprehensive plan and the
zoning ordinance The applicant is increasing the green space on the site Site circulation is of
concern however it can be redesigned to avoid conflicts Staff is recommending approval of the
request with conditions
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends that the City Council adopt the following motions
PUD AMENDMENT
The City Council approve the Planned Unit Development amendment for Arboretum Village
PUD 99 02 Planning Case 08 22 amending the design standards Section b Permitted Uses to
allow a drive thru on Lot 2 Block 1 Arboretum Shopping Center with the following standards
Drive thru facilities for any use shall comply with the following standards
a They shall not be located adjacent to any residential lot lines
b They shall be provided with a suitable visual screen from adjacent properties
c Stacking shall be provided within applicable parking lot setbacks
d Stacking shall meet the following standards
1 Fast Food Restaurant six cars per aisle
2 Banks three cars per aisle
3 Pharmacy two cars per aisle
4 All other uses two cars per aisle
e The City may require a vehicle stacking study to determine whether more or less stacking
shall be required for a particular use
t Stacking areas shall not interfere with vehicular circulation in the parking lot nor encroach
into any required drive aisles
g Speaker or intercom system shall not be audible at the property line
h A Fast Food Restaurant with a drive thru may not exceed 1 550 square feet in area
SITE PLAN AMENDMENT
The City Council approves the site plan amendment for Arboretum Shopping Center Site Plan 03
06 Planning Case 08 22 to allow a drive thru window and redesign parking layout and site
circulation as shown in plans dated received December 15 2008 with the following conditions and
based on adoption of the attached Findings of Fact
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1 Approval of the site plan is contingent upon approval of the PUD amendment allowing a
drive thru window
2 The western three angled parking stalls must be striped and signed as compact stalls
3 Any existing bufferyard plantings that are removed for the development must be replaced
within the same area A landscape plan must be submitted to the city for approval showing
locations and species The applicant may group plantings together in order to add interest to
the landscaping if the design does not diminish the screening capacity
4 The applicant
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES MINNESOTA
ORDINANCE NO
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 20 OF THE
CHANHASSEN CITY CODE THE CITY S ZONING ORDINANCE
BY AMENDING A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT
THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CHANHASSEN ORDAINS
Section 1 Chapter 20 of the Chanhassen City Code the City s zoning ordinance is hereby
amended by amending the Arboretum Village Planned Unit Development Design Standards
Section b Permitted Uses to read as follows
PUD DEVELOPMENT DESIGN STANDARDS
b Permitted Uses
The permitted uses within the neighborhood commercial zone should be limited to appropriate
commercial and service uses consistent with the neighborhood The uses shall be limited to
those as defined herein If there is a question as to whether or not a use meets the definition the
Planning Director shall make that interpretation The type of uses to be provided on this outlot
shall be low intensity neighborhood oriented retail and service establishments to meet daily
needs of residents Such uses may include the following
Small to medium sized restaurant without drive thru windows unless they meet the following
standards
a They shall not be located adjacent to any residential lot lines
b They shall be provided with a suitable visual screen from adjacent properties
c Stacking shall be provided within applicable parking lot setbacks
d Stacking shall meet the following standards
1 Fast Food Restaurant six cars per aisle
2 Banks three cars per aisle
3 Pharmacy two cars per aisle
4 All other uses two cars per aisle
e The City may require a vehicle stacking study to determine whether more or less stacking
shall be required for a particular use
t Stacking areas shall not interfere with vehicular circulation in the parking lot nor
encroach into any required drive aisles
g Speaker or intercom system shall not be audible at the property line
h A Fast Food Restaurant with a drive thru may not exceed 1 550 square feet in area and
must be located on Lot 2 Block 1 Arboretum Shopping Center
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Day care
Neighborhood scale commercial
Convenience store
Churches
Other similar type and scale uses as described in the Comprehensive Plan
No single use shall exceed 5 000 square feet
Section 2 This ordinance shall be effective immediately upon its passage and publication
PASSED AND ADOPTED by the Chanhassen City Council this 12th day of January 2009
ATIEST
Todd Gerhardt Clerk Manager Thomas A Furlong Mayor
Published in the Chanhassen Villager on 2009
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Councilman Litsey I was just going to I agree with those comments and although again it may
seem like a lengthy process I think through this it gives everybody a comfort level and I
appreciate the council s insight on this too It was helpful to me because I haven t had as many
of these before me as some other people on the council so this certainly did help and I think with
conditions set forth so I too support this so
Mayor Furlong Is there any other discussion If not we have a motion before us that s been
modified with a condition and subject to the Findings of Fact being presented in the next
meeting is that correct
Kate Aanenson That s correct
Mayor Furlong Okay thank you Is there any other discussion
Councilman McDonald moved Councilwoman Ernst seconded that the City Council
approve Planning Case 08 19 for a 15 foot shoreland setback variance to construct a 15 by
20 foot enclosed structure on Lot 12 Block 1 Sunrise Hills Addition and adopt Findings of
Fact to be supplied by staff at the next City Council meeting with the following condition
1 Design the roof such that drainage off the roof is not concentrated to create hazards to the
bluff below
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to O
ARBORETUM SHOPPING CENTER 7755 CENTURY BOULEVARD KLMS GROUP
LLC REQUEST FOR A MINOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD
AMENDMENT TO ALLOW A DRIVE THRU AND SITE PLAN REVIEW WITH
VARIANCES LOT 2 BLOCK 1 ARBORETUM SHOPPING CENTER
Public Present
Name Address
Bryan Monahan
Andrew Ronningen
Lynne Etling
7500 West 78th Street Edina
2669 West 78th Street
7681 Century Boulevard
Kate Aanenson Thank you Mayor members of the City Council I m going to pass around
there s two letters of support that came with this project This item appeared before the Planning
Commission on October 22nd The applicant is requesting to amend the PUD to allow for a drive
thru window The subject site is located at a neighborhood commercial zoning district as I
mentioned done as a PUD that s located down on the northeast comer of Highway 5 and Century
Boulevard bordered by West 78th This is one of those pocket neighborhoods that we put in
place with the upgrade or when we did the Highway 5 corridor study to provide some
convenience commercial for that neighborhood in this area So again the applicant did appear
before the Planning Commission and before I go through the slides I ll just summarize what the
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Planning Commission s discussion points were And that was that the layout proposed the
applicant would block people on both sides of the stacking lanes and it appeared that the parking
spaces after you stack cars would not be able to back out The Planning Commission also
requested that the drive aisles drive thru be counted The applicant requested that the drive
aisles be counted as parking space and the Planning Commission disagreed with that
interpretation Pedestrians must cut through the travel lane to get to the building and I ll show a
little bit more on that in a minute And the Planning Commission also asked the applicant the
intended use to go in there if they could go in without the drive thru window and I think that
was a concern when we look at neighborhood zoning districts as a whole We have some other
neighborhood zoning districts that we haven t allowed that so they did spend some time on that
And also the layout that the staff had recommended The applicant disagreed with that although
I think we could move towards some ofthat There s still some underlying concerns with that
Again in 2003 when this project did come to the Planning Commission we the staff remained
neutral in presenting a drive thru at that time and the Planning Commission had recommended no
on that so I ll spend a little bit more time on that in a minute And then they also the final thing
that the Planning Commission talked about when they recommended against was the one way
traffic through the gas station during rush hour and Nick and Willy s may present a problem So
with that I ll just kind of go through the proposed project itself This is the original site plan that
came through in 2003 The applicant at that time and I m not sure if anybody remembers but at
that time they were looking at a drive thru coffee shop and it was integrated into the back of the
design At that time again the staff because it was a neighborhood zoning district took a
neutral position We actually had Findings of Fact for and against and the Planning
Commission in looking at that drive thru even though you could see that there were 6 stacking
stalls separated from the access to the gas station and the other uses itself completely separated
they still were concerned about the precedent at that time And actually by the time it got to the
City Council this council actually deferred on it for a couple meetings too Spent a lot of time
studying it Asked staff to go look at some other applications so in that time at that time it was
determined that that probably was not a good use and the use itself went even a little bit further
If you look at the architectural compatibility and this is the use itself is that we actually put on
the back side of the building so when you re looking from Highway 5 you wouldn t see it It
was actually integrated into the building itself You can see the enter so it was architecturally
compatible so you wouldn t see it from the other side either so it really had the least amount of
visual impact And so even at that the Planning Commission and the council ultimately decided
that they did not want to support So here we are a number of years later and the applicant is
requesting the drive thru And you can see on this application the drive thru again is on the north
side Again it s further away from the residents but it s as far as visual impact it s not the
preferred choice but based on now the current layout of the business itself how it s function the
kitchen the bathrooms and the like this is what they thought was the best location for that drive
thru So we did go look at the use that wanted to go in there how it operates in Eden Prairie
Went through the operation and this is the larger view I ll go to a closer view where you
actually you have segmented uses so you actually have more stacking that you re not crossing
through the traffic at the main entrance And a close up of that would be there s a car wash if
you can follow the arrow here to the car wash that goes one way I believe it goes the other way
and then to go through Milio s you re coming back through the opposite way so there is they re
not you don t have pedestrians crossing to get into the business on this so it s a little bit
different and they had the segment in stacking space which this one didn t So right away again
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in looking at doing a PUD amendment for a drive thru we re not limiting what type of use can
go there Obviously depending upon how much volume somebody else marketing would look at
that sort of thing but we re not limiting it to any particular user It just says drive thru window
So in looking at kind of worst case best case scenario This was the staff s best attempt at
making this work Again the preferred alternative would have been on the back side but trying
to make this work In replacing the additional parking stalls that were eliminated Trying to
reduce the area of conflict which would be trying to get into the door here on this side Where
the restaurant would be You re crossing through the travel lane of the drive thru and that s
where the Planning Commission struggled the most problematic portion of that And this was
the applicant s drawing for that Again the staff s concern is that we had conflicting the way
this would back in here you could actually block the traffic coming through the business itself
There wasn t additional parking provided with this application Again that area of concern And
then these seemed to be also difficult because you re coming through the drive thru so you re
losing these and these may be difficult to back out of too when you ve got accelerating traffic
coming out ofthe drive thru itself So here s a little close up again kind of again highlighting
exclusive stacking space for vehicles waiting to place your orders is not provided so you re the
vehicles waiting to stack at the menu or the order place could also be blocking the traffic and
then the potential for the vehicle conflict coming the other way or people coming out because
it s narrow right through there So again the Planning Commission did recommend denial of the
application for reasons that I stated in the staff report and so with that I d be happy to answer any
questions that you do have The motion that we had for you is placed on the front page of the
application
Mayor Furlong Questions for staff
Councilman McDonald Did you actually propose to the applicant your design
Kate Aanenson Yes we did
Councilman McDonald What kind of feedback did you get
Kate Aanenson Well I think at the Planning Commission there was a lot of resistance but I
think between now and then trying to meet all that before it went to City Council I think they re
willing to meet some of those designs The concern that we had is that I think the biggest issue
here is if you re willing to go forward with the PUD amendment We didn t want to expend
additional money that if you weren t going in that direction I think if you re leaning that way
and then you wanted to make some conditions I think at this point we didn t want to spend have
the applicant spending additional dollars on that
Councilman McDonald And then the other question I have with the traffic flow the way it is
towards the back isn t that also the way you would go to get into the car wash
Kate Aanenson That s correct There is a couple ways to get through there but it does get a
little congested I think at the lunch hour time too when Nick and Willy s is a little bit busier
Councilman McDonald Okay That s all I have
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Kate Aanenson And Jimmy John s too
Councilwoman Tjornhom Kate did I read that there are additional parking spots that are going
to be created
Kate Aanenson That s what we had requested The applicant at the Planning Commission
didn t want to do that I think they re willing to show that for you tonight and so I think that
they ll talk to that but at this point I think we wanted to get just kind of a read before we spend
money and go further into that if they re willing to meet those I think we can work through the
design issues but I think what we wanted to get for the read is what you re receptiveness to the
drive thru was
Councilwoman Tjomhom But the real issue is really is the traffic flow and the stacking
Kate Aanenson Well there s a couple issues One it s not the preferred design because we
actually the stacking is one but you re also taking pedestrian traffic pedestrian movement
through a travel lane for ordering food And then it is while it is a PUD and you could make
conditions unique to this but we ve told other neighborhood commercial zoning that it could be
a precedent
Mayor Furlong Other questions for staff at this point And I guess clarifying at the Planning
Commission they made a motion to deny the request The applicant s
Kate Aanenson Correct
Mayor Furlong Okay And I see in the staff report what some of the concerns were laid out
there and one of them was this was talked about 5 years ago in 2003 when this came through
and are there any other while it s a PUD
Kate Aanenson Right
Mayor Furlong It s a neighborhood business level of zoning effectively correct
Kate Aanenson Correct Correct
Mayor Furlong Okay And so what else do we have in neighborhood do we have any other
restaurants drive thru in neighborhood business Is at Galpin and 5 we have CVS and Kwik
Trip
Kate Aanenson There s no drive thru The only thing that we ve offered drive thru would be
the banks drug stores dry cleaners would be the only ones to date that we ve allowed the drive
thru So the other two uses up there that are food related are non drive thru s either That are
contiguous to this
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Mayor Furlong Well and didn t we have a request for a drive thru at Chanhassen Crossings at
101 and Lyman just recently
Kate Aanenson Correct
Mayor Furlong And we put significant limitations on it
Kate Aanenson Correct
Mayor Furlong What did we end up doing there Wasn t it I mean that s a coffee shop
Kate Aanenson Right
Mayor Furlong It s not necessarily a restaurant so there were expectations of
Kate Aanenson Yes right Yes correct Correct
Mayor Furlong You keep saying correct
Kate Aanenson It was for a coffee shop and the circulation was different and that I think
Mayor Furlong But there were it wasn t designed to be a food or a restaurant there
Kate Aanenson Correct It was a very small area for what they wanted to look at was a coffee
shop But we ve had other requests We had requests for fast food down there and we
recommended no on all that We ve also there was the Subway across the street too that was
looking at some of that but we had said no That was also a PUD so
Councilman Litsey Is it kind of I mean I get the impression and from reviewing this myself
that you re kind of trying to force something into an area that really isn t conducive to it or
Kate Aanenson Right well one of the staff struggle is you know we d like to see something
successful in this building That s critical
Councilman Litsey Absolutely
Kate Aanenson You know everybody would And other uses have struggled there We want
this business to be successful so we tried to find a way to make it work and I m just not sure
we re there In the design
Todd Gerhardt And I think both the Planning Commission and staff are looking for a little
direction from the council on this You know this center has kind of struggled here for the last 5
years I think it s been there and they re going on their third tenant in this building and we want
to be successful The strip retail has had multiple uses in there and you know we need something
to really anchor this comer and the applicant feels as if a drive thru would help that And one of
the things you know I haven t had a chance to talk to Roger on this but we could give it a shot
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for the one tenant and then with the POO amendment for Milio s but if for some reason Milio s
can t make it there that that drive thru would only exist while that tenant was there
Councilman McDonald Well that was the question I was kind of asking you on that because if
Todd Gerhardt I know it s a challenge for Roger
Councilman McDonald if this is a POO if we issue it for the PUD does that mean if this
fails then a Starbuck s can corne in They ve got a drive thru
Roger Knutson Without going into detail I think we can get there but we would due respect to
the manager we want to word it a little bit differently
Todd Gerhardt You don t want to take that wording huh
Roger Knutson You can t do a PUD amendment that s only applicable to Milio s
Todd Gerhardt Right
Kate Aanenson It would be sandwiched related
Todd Gerhardt So can it be time related or use related
Roger Knutson If you tried to make it an interim use within the POO that is possible but then
you d have to start over There are other things I think we could fruitfully discuss and how we
could limit that
Kate Aanenson Such as trip generation those sort of things Yeah
Mayor Furlong Variety of factors What I m hearing is there may be some flexibility if that s
something we wanted to look at
Kate Aanenson Yeah and I think still we re still trying to struggle with the design
Mayor Furlong But I hear if Mr Knutson is saying that there may be an opportunity to be a
little more specific here without necessarily creating a city wide precedent is that correct There
may be some opportunities We might not get it done tonight but there may be some things we
could do
Roger Knutson I don t think we could word smith it tonight but I think if the council wants to
go in that direction we could corne back with something that will pin it down pretty good
Mayor Furlong Okay Alright
Kate Aanenson And again just to be clear I think there s some struggles of how much to spend
on this and so we want to get some direction on that because we think we can make it better just
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design wise not even just with the window The location Moving some things but obviously
there s some I think some of the things that we are struggling with is the applicant s ability to
invest in some of those So we kind of want to find get a read from you and to see where to go
with that
Mayor Furlong Alright Councilwoman Tjomhom
Councilwoman Tjomhom How s the gas station feel about the drive thru and all the traffic that
will be coming through there
Todd Gerhardt The owner of the gas station is the applicant
Kate Aanenson It s the same
Councilwoman Tjomhom It s the same I m sorry
Kate Aanenson That s alright
Councilwoman Tjomhom I didn t realize that
Mayor Furlong Any other questions of staff at this time If not we will invite the applicant to
come forward and address the council Is there anything you d like to say Good evening
Mark Leutem Hi My name is Mark Leutem I am the I m going to say one of the owners of
the gas station which includes the car wash and the tenant space that we re looking to fill Just a
little quick a quick background Family owned and operated business It started in the fall of
2004 My family I actually married into this thing My wife was starting this investment at the
time we were engaged and becoming married and so I m the fix up guy anyway But the point is
that the business in that location has under performed We re doing about somewhere between
28 About 30 of what the business was originally projected to do We are the owners of the
real estate and the operator that was supposed to be in there lasted 18 months and he went
bankrupt In the restaurant space in the front there that s had 2 other operators First one went
bankrupt after about a year Second one I m not sure where he is I think he s back in Mexico
or something Anyway but the point is that we the word struggle was used earlier and that s a
very very solid word and I don t mind saying we ve probably put in about 15 000 a month on
average to keep this thing going Part of the strategy to get this business to just start to take care
of itself includes putting a solid tenant into that space Being in the real estate world we went out
to find potential tenants We talked to brokers and agents and we talked to Caribou We talked
to Starbucks We talked to Dunn Brothers None of those are options They want to be on the
other side of the street for their particular reasons in what they do so unless I can bring it across
the street they re not a consideration We went to McDonald s We went to the Noodles and
Company You pick the franchise We ve talked to all of them and they re not all hard to talk
to because a lot a few brokers represent a lot of these folks Those franchises require a square
footage of at least 25 000 square feet You may be able to squeeze them in there Closer to 25
28 to 30 I m sorry 2 800 to 3 000 square feet
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Kate Aanenson I was going to say
Mark Leutem Yeah We are way too small to be a McDonald s And so those aren t options
We really need and in fact as I ve been interviewing potential tenants there we really need to
put a tenant in there that s going to stay and a tenant business that s going to succeed I ve
literally had some tenants come and look around and say well yeah but a couple other businesses
failed here and why did they And when I explained I don t think thing they had real good
business plans They did for a number of different reasons They couldn t get the traffic flow
they needed or what not and so the intent as the space is getting hexed Okay so I spoke with
Mr Moravec Vic Moravec who has a franchise of Milio s franchise in Eden Prairie here He s
very excited His company has done due diligence on it Milio s is a franchise name There s
50 stores in the Midwest They have some name recognition in the area Growing quickly
Very solid business Well capitalized Just the thing we re looking for Requirement is he needs
a drive up in order for the business model to work and succeed So here we are today dealing
with that particular issue In the City Council meeting as was brought up earlier there was some
resistance I come today with no resistance to the staff at all In fact I m coming today to
suggest that we look to try to get approval to this concept and then I would be more than happy
to work with staff and staff s recommendations to follow a design that s developed that they re
comfortable with That meets the needs of our requirements of getting this accomplished and
that staff could be perfectly comfortable in recommending As was stated earlier we can be
close I don t think we re quite there either I had some disagreements before on how many cars
are going to be stacked and what not We re not going to do any of that tonight But like I said I
would like to work with the staff Come up with something that makes sense Since that city
planning meeting talked to some of the architects Other developers and some other folks and
some other ideas have been tossed out that haven t even been addressed together with myself and
the staff so I think there s a number of different options that can be developed so this thing
makes sense and is consistent There was a question earlier about the possible congestion around
my pumps We would really love to have some congestion around my pumps As I said before
we are less than third of the capacity that this business was originally projected to do And so
you know we d like to do that The other part of it too is you have to keep in mind that we are a
continuous building so the traffic flow and sharing of parking space and entering and exiting is
not uncommon If you look in a number of different layouts in certain businesses they can
essentially be contiguous in each other I think I ve addressed all relevant points
Mayor Furlong Very good thank you Any questions for Mr is it Leutem
Mark Leutem Leutem yep
Mayor Furlong Okay Mr Leutem
Councilman McDonald I guess at this point then what you re telling us is you re willing to
work with staff as far as addressing some of these issues they have about traffic flow and the way
traffic would be handled around the center
Mark Leutem Correct Yeah I envision that the design is what staff and I would put together
and again that the staff would end up being comfortable with recommending it
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Councilman McDonald Are we close as far as what staff s proposed design was Is that a good
starting point
Mark Leutem If you could go to the picture that That one there We can be close I just
thought actually did think about something as I was sitting in the chair here and I have to talk
with Mr Moravec but from a space standpoint I mean we could move that window even further
down which would shorten the access points Still get the 6 cars in there that they want and so
then that would get away with some of the cross traffic or the stuff walking across And then
they also with working with Westwood they had a number of different recommendations about
how that parking and that handicap could be redone so the flow is a little smoother and
everything lays out a little bit easier There s less construction There s less changing of the
berm and stuff like that so I think there s a few other options again that haven t even gotten to
the table discussing how the design would go
Councilman McDonald Okay
Mark Leutem But generally speaking we re you know generally going this direction
Todd Gerhardt Is there the possibility of moving that front door over to the north side of the
building Because then it d keep people away from that drive thru
Mark Leutem Yeah everything s possible I think
Todd Gerhardt We ll design it right here Sorry
Mayor Furlong No we won t
Mark Leutem One of the things one of the things when I was with my concrete folks is that
you can see that takes away part of the sidewalk that s like right in front And actually when you
take that out and you get on the scene and you put a tape measurer to that there s enough room
to leave that sidewalk going all the way and still get the lane in there
Kate Aanenson Yeah it s the issue we had just to be clear you know as you re crossing
People aren t going to walk all the way yeah We can work on it
Todd Gerhardt We won t design it here
Mayor Furlong Any other questions this evening for Mr Leutem We may have some others
as you
Mark Leutem Well yeah
Mayor Furlong If you watched the earlier one
Mark Leutem Yeah I don t have any other plans
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Mayor Furlong We never close out our right to ask questions so
Councilwoman Ernst Well I just have a comment that when you were talking about moving the
window to make the traffic flow a little easier I see Kate shaking her head and yes So I m
encouraged to hear that the two of you will work something out and bring it back
Mayor Furlong Thank you I know there was a public hearing at the Planning Commission I
don t know if there are other members of the public here present that want to comment on this
With Mr Herbst standing I m guessing the answer to my question is yes there are so we ll take
some public comment here as well Good evening
Dan Herbst Good evening Honorable Mayor members of the City Council Professional staff
My name is Dan Herbst 7640 Crimson Bay Road in Chanhassen and also co owner with Ron
Clark of Century Wine and Spirits We are before I give you points that point out talk to you
about We are running low of wine club memberships before the holiday season so if you want
to sign up tonight
Mayor Furlong I don t think this is an opportunity for advertisements We ll let this one go
Dan Herbst First of all I apologize for not being here at the Planning Commission meeting We
would have liked to state our case as well as other people at the Planning Commission but we
didn t see it as a real issue and I think when you assume something like that you always make
mistakes so I apologize for not being here But you know from the obvious point of view you
already know there s a road already that loops the south side of that building From a precedent
setting point of view you already have a drive thru on that PUD with the car wash I ve been in
this business about 40 years and I in both the commercial and the residential end and you know
looking at your Findings of Fact you know this drive thru window is very very consistent in my
opinion with all of the other uses that are part of the Arboretum Center there I see no
inconsistency whatsoever There s also some mention in your Findings of Fact about lowering
property values I think that s invalid also So I think it s consistent with your PUD It s going
to boost all the businesses in that area That place has been open and closed as Mark mentioned
to you about 3 different times I think it s compatible with all your performance standards of
your planned unit development You know and just on a personal issue having 8 grandchildren
a drive thru is a real real plus When you ve got to bail kids in and out of those seats and watch
them run across the street to go into a restaurant a drive thru is a real great thing and all of you
that have had children and more so if you re handicap And so I think there s a real advantage
to a drive in window so I strongly recommend that you would approve this and I like the theory
that Kate has put up that if you approve the drive thru concept on this site which is and the
drive up window I think the details can be worked out with Mark and Kate and Paul as far as the
parking and the traffic and everything else but I strongly would recommend that you would
approve this tonight from the concept of allowing the drive and drive thru window and let the
details be worked out with staff so Are there questions
Mayor Furlong Thank you Any questions for Mr Herbst No
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Dan Herbst Okay thank you
Mayor Furlong Thank you
Lynne Etling I would like to speak as well
Mayor Furlong Please come forward
Lynne Etling My name is Lynne Etling and I actually live at 7681 Century Boulevard and I
just broke your thing I think I got it I can t give as eloquent a speech as he did but I would like
to talk about the proposed change here
Mayor Furlong If you could your address again ma am
Lynne Etling 7681 Century Boulevard
Mayor Furlong Thank you
Lynne Etling I live within 500 feet of the development
Mayor Furlong Great thank you
Lynne Etling And I also spoke as well at the Planning Commission and I m not going to take
up your time going through everything that they have already discussed here However you
know I do want to strongly stress that they are asking for a variance There is a lot of if and s or
but s Nothing out here is laid in factual what they re planning to do now and as far as what I
can see was not copied on the letter of approval from whoever supporting it But when you talk
about you have a business Obviously it didn t have a great business plan to begin with The
people that have been in there have been in and out The last company that was in there actually
had their children in there all the time so obviously when you have little children running around
you re not going to do a great deal of business with your restaurant It s not conducive So as
far as the people that live in that area I don t feel that you know I m sorry but I do feel our
property values are going to go down because of this because everyone is going to go in there
There s going to be a lot more traffic You re trying to pull traffic from the commuters instead
of the people that live there There s a lot of differences to this with what they re proposing I
mean a lot of changes to it and frankly they re trying to put a square peg in a round hole It just
doesn t fit This is not made for a drive thru and the people that are going to go in there are
going to come back out Go onto the road Do a U y Creating a traffic problem which is the
primary concern for me and then go back out onto Highway 5 So there s a lot of things here I
don t think hardship is proven My property value has gone down tremendously since when I
purchased my home not even 2 years ago but you know that s not taken into account There s a
lot of things here that you know I just don t support it I don t want to see your business fail
However I don t want my property value to go down even more I don t want to have a wreck
when I m trying to get out of the neighborhood You ve got one business compared to I don t
know how many homes that are there 500 personal units You know I don t want to waste your
time I think you know that he s trying to do his best that he can However Ijust don t I still
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feel that it s a square peg in a round hole and unless they take the drive thru out you know Ijust
don t think that it s feasible
Mayor Furlong Okay And if I may question You talk about U turns Is that traffic that exits
the entrance on Century Boulevard is right in right out is that correct
Kate Aanenson Yeah
Lynne Etling Right And they ll come out It s not a one way
Mayor Furlong There it is That s good So they
Kate Aanenson Correct So you could come back out this way and then try to go up and
around
Lynne Etling And that s what everyone does
Kate Aanenson Right
Lynne Etling That s what they do now
Kate Aanenson Certainly that would be one of the issues that we d look at too is controlling
some of that If you were to consider
Councilman Litsey Another thing you could do is like a No U Turn sign there or something
Kate Aanenson I think there is one
Lynne Etling There is one there now and they just don t do it
Kate Aanenson They still do it
Councilman Litsey Is there one there now
Kate Aanenson Yes there is People ignore it
Councilwoman Tjornhom I ve never seen it either
Mayor Furlong If I could
Lynne Etling Maybe there isn t I don t know But there should be
Mayor Furlong And I think Ms Etling that s a valid point in terms of traffic flow Not just
within the development but on the streets surrounding it If we re already having problems
that s an issue that we should probably be looking at and I know Mr Herbst is here and others
and maybe I mean regardless of where we go on this if this goes forward at least from tonight
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we re talking about it and we haven t even talked about it yet There have been suggestions that
we look at it from a concept and then get into the details and then bring something back But to
your point we could all look at and evaluate
Lynne Etling Right
Mayor Furlong Because there really isn t anything here but a concept at this point
Lynne Etling Right and I don t see a win win for everyone here yet
Mayor Furlong Okay And understand that but I m wondering if we already are having some
problems with traffic flows and maybe we are maybe we aren t in terms of the U turns there
People coming out Going up Turning back around to get out to Highway 5
Lynne Etling In the summer when they do the re paving the main thing that you see is the path
for the U turn
Mayor Furlong And as I recall this was we were looking at pedestrian traffic as well as car
traffic and when this development originally went through
Kate Aanenson That s correct
Mayor Furlong There were some there were concerns at that time so
Lynne Etling Right and this would change the platform that you have there The footprint of
that whole development
Mayor Furlong Perhaps from a volume standpoint
Lynne Etling Right Well and you re attracting metro traffic instead of urban
Mayor Furlong Yeah Okay
Kate Aanenson Mayor if I may just make one point just to be clear on the process here
They re asking for a PUD amendment and the variance was because they didn t want to provide
the additional parking I heard Mr Leutem say that he was willing to meet the standards for that
so the variance would go away Not to dismiss the other concerns but then it would just be the
PUD amendment which is a little bit different standard
Lynne Etling Right which would be setting precedent for the
Kate Aanenson I don t disagree with that but Ijust want to make sure if he had agreed to put
the parking in That was what the variance for
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Lynne Etling May I ask one question that I didn t think to ask earlier at the Planning
Commission When you say that you did a study of the drive thru stack lane at the Eden Prairie
location was that a qualified certified traffic inspector or was it just an employee
Kate Aanenson Yep Well City Engineer Assistant City Engineer correct Who I believe is
qualified to make
Lynne Etling But not a traffic engineer through right
Kate Aanenson Correct
Lynne Etling Okay
Councilman McDonald Can I ask just one question
Mayor Furlong Councilman McDonald
Councilman McDonald Do you feel if we could solve the traffic problem does that make this a
little bit more attractive to coming in to the community
Lynne Etling Well I would love to have a coffee shop to be honest with you But I mean 3 sub
shops within you know what 500 600 feet of each other Ijust don t think that s a good
business plan
Councilman McDonald Well that s probably up to the individual businesses but my point is
what I m hearing is traffic seems to be the biggest problem and if that s something we were to
concentrate on and improve whether the business succeeds or not is up to the business Would
that make it make it more attractive as far as you know coming into the neighborhood itself
Lynne Etling As long as it was enforced
Councilman McDonald I beg your pardon
Lynne Etling As long as it s enforced I mean that s the biggest issue is they re you know it s
out there It s mainly for that Arboretum Village and you know I m sorry if I ve been a frequent
visitor of both of them I have a membership at the Wine Club and I used to go to the restaurants
since I ve been there too However I didn t like the children running around while I was trying
to have a quiet dinner You know it just wasn t good business But to have something like that
going around the whole building and blocking all the individual parking spaces even if he does
create more you ve still got the hazard of trying to have the cars backing in and out while
someone is stacking there I mean that s what I m meaning when I m saying you re trying to put
a square peg in a round hole It s just you know no matter how you design it unless you would
you know you d have to totally redo the whole thing Put the driveway on the other side or
something so you have more stacking lane I don t know
Councilman McDonald Okay
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Mayor Furlong Well thank you I appreciate your comments
Lynne Etling Thank you
Mayor Furlong It s been helpful Thank you for your involvement Is there anyone else who d
like to come up Good evening sir
Brian Monahan Hi there My name is Brian Monahan I m with Ron Clark Construction We
are the owners of Lot 1 Block 1 It s the center north of the gas station
Mayor Furlong So I m sorry The one you re highlighting now
Kate Aanenson Yes
Mayor Furlong Just straight north Okay thank you
Brian Monahan We actually favor this action We would like to see increased traffic to our
center Currently we re at 67 occupied in our center We ve been that way for about 2 years
Naturally if more folks are coming in to the center then that s a bigger possibility for not only
our tenants to succeed better as far as our center is concerned but also the gas station and
whatever tenant they might have We ve found that I ve been with Ron Clark for 2 years and
for the last 2 years we haven t had a tenant on the end cap which we would love to have a coffee
shop as well But unfortunately everyone wants a drive thru That s what we found is that
everyone and a drive thru While we might be jealous of them being able to get their drive thru
because then we won t get our coffee shop we would also welcome the added traffic that it
would bring to the center And I know I can speak for several of our tenants One of them is
here That they also welcome the possibility of additional traffic to the center Obviously traffic
whether it s pedestrian or just regular folks getting a sub or whatever attracts more business to
their businesses A Karate studio for instance A Pilates class Edward Jones is in there It s a
financial planning company and then of course the liquor store I know I can speak for at least
all of them that more traffic is better for us We feel that it s possible to work this out being in
the real estate business ourselves and also the development and construction business We can
actually see that there s a couple of possibilities that might be able to work out if we re given the
chance to move forward with that And that s pretty much our stance As far as the real estate
values I think we can all agree that most real estate has kind of gone down from the last
probably 2 3 years I don t live anywhere near any of this which I would actually welcome but
my house value has gone down as well so I mean it s I think that s kind of a moot point to be
honest And the last thing I ll say is is that there is actually two entrances There s an entrance
and an exit out Whether folks move out through the entrance or in through the out trance or the
out or what have you you know it s I think it s kind of neither here or there to be honest
Frankly if the direction of travel which has been proposed by staff those folks are more likely to
drive past the pumps and out the other entrance over there on whatever West 78th Street That to
me just seems like a natural As I m looking at it that s probably the way I would go out
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Mayor Furlong Thank you One question for you since you brought up the subject that you
would have been interested in a drive thru
Brian Monahan Sure
Mayor Furlong If the council were to go forward with the concept this evening would you be
requesting a drive thru then at some future date for your building as well
Brian Monahan Frankly we ve kind of examined the possibility of a drive thru and we don t see
a possibility for adding a drive thru unless you were to build a lane on the back side of the
building We re not willing to do that So the answer would be
Mayor Furlong No Or is the answer no
Brian Monahan More than likely no
Todd Gerhardt You got an engineering answer
Mayor Furlong Alright thank you Any other questions for Mr Monahan Anyone else
wishing to come up this evening
Andrew Ronningen Good evening My name is Andrew Ronningen I am the owner of one of
the business the Fantastic Sams It s right in the middle essentially of the Ron Clark building
and I just wanted to I wrote a letter but I wanted to really just highlight a couple of points that
are very important When somebody is driving up towards this center they see that vacant
building that we re talking about for the drive thru and obviously that s not appealing at all and
I think that prevents people from coming into the Arboretum Center And so having a space
there for that reason alone is important And of course we all know that a lot of businesses like
that more than half their business comes through the drive thru It s just the way we are with
our cars and everything We re a convenience walk in business and we re a proven business
model There are over 1 300 around the country that we ve grown from 0 to about 80 Fantastic
Sams just in Minnesota in the last 5 6 years So they very rarely close and our salon is definitely
under performing and we can see and I can give you examples I have other salons that I own
and where there is more frequent and relevant traffic like people coming through and being
there the salons perform much much better so we would certainly benefit tremendously from
increased traffic there And as an owner I m there you know 7 30 in the morning noon 10 30 at
night Saturday Sunday s All different times and I ve walked around I buy my gas at the gas
station and once in a while go down to the wine store Jimmy John s and so and as a pedestrian
walking around I ve never had an issue with traffic There just isn t that much traffic there now
so my thought too is even if there 50 more cars a day you know I don t know that anybody
would really notice Because there is quite a bit of space and I rarely see anybody driving down
in that lower loop anyway I mean rarely So I think that the impact is low but we re you know
we have 7 people They re employed and have a lot of their livelihood based on that business
and we d like to hire more and continue that we d also like to keep the jobs we have so from our
perspective there too it s about keeping those jobs and filling up the center that we re in so that
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we can be viable and offer great services for the surrounding neighbors because we re sensitive
to what they need So I appreciate being able to talk about that
Mayor Furlong Okay thank you sir Any questions Very good thank you Anyone else this
evening that would like to provide public comment to the council Yes
Mark Leutem Just on the issue of U turns If people are up there doing U turns I mean that s
something I would certainly agree needs to change as well I don t want people doing that I
wouldn t have any problem with facilitating the direction out of the facility for them to go and
use the other entrance going out to the other road and it could be quite simple as putting a sign
out there that says you know please exit this direction so I think we could channel traffic that
direction So that would certainly be an option I mean another idea could be just re direct all of
County Road 5 right between the strip mall and my gas station and out there
Mayor Furlong Just run the state highway right through
Mark Leutem Just run it right through there Plus put a stop light right in the middle of the
building
Mayor Furlong Right by your pumps
Mark Leutem Alright thank you
Mayor Furlong Thank you Anyone else
Lynne Etling May I have one quick question
Mayor Furlong Sure Absolutely If you could wait til you get to the microphone please
Lynne Etling Sure In order to make this more feasible to us that live right there on the comer
if you re wanting to get increased traffic from the highway from the commuters is it possible
for the City to plant more shrubbery you know evergreens whatever to buffer the noise that that
would bring
Mayor Furlong I think the answer that was one of the things that was being discussed or laid
out by staff too If the landscaping plan might change If this went forward and I ll defer to Ms
Aanenson
Kate Aanenson Yeah I think those are all the things that we want to work on I think just to
certainly to make sure that there s less impact
Lynne Etling Yeah because there s the big track right there that s directly across that is pretty
barren that alleves all the noise then
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Mayor Furlong Just so I understand Ms Etling the when you talk about doing some additional
landscaping where on the property would you Is it along Highway 5 Is it along Century
Boulevard It is along West 78th
Lynne Etling No Actually along your wetland area there across the street so it would buffer
the people that live there
Mayor Furlong Where she s pointing to right now with the arrow
Lynne Etling Yes
Mayor Furlong Okay So you re saying between the business and the homes to the north
Lynne Etling Yes
Mayor Furlong Alright I think we can take a look at the landscaping plan if we went forward
and I know that would be a part of it and I appreciate your
Lynne Etling Because that s a wetland area behind me and what trees are there are pretty much
dying and falling down It s kind of a big eyesore because they haven t been taken care of and
that one area is all barren where trees probably were and they were taken down and nothing was
replanted
Mayor Furlong Okay
Lynne Etling So that would help buffer the noise for us that live right there
Mayor Furlong Okay
Lynne Etling Thank you
Mayor Furlong Thank you for the additional comments Anyone else from a public comment
standpoint No Thank you for everybody s thoughts and ideas and suggestions as well Any
follow up questions at this point with staff Maybe they ll come up as we discuss what s before
us this evening If not is there any thoughts or comments
Councilman McDonald The question I ve got do we really have something to vote on if
everybody s willing to go back and talk to staff
Kate Aanenson I guess we d recommend probably tabling it Right now the 60 days ends
November 18th so I d probably ask for an additional 60 days
Mayor Furlong Is that a request or is that an automatic It doesn t sound it like s going to be a
problem
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Kate Aanenson It s automatic Just to put them on notice that we d be taking the extra 60 days
and that we try to work through a design but again in good faith with the applicant if the council
didn t even want to go there we didn t want to pursue a lot of that interest
Mayor Furlong I guess what I m hearing is that if it s something from a concept standpoint that
we re willing to support and therefore would require time and effort on the part of staff as well
as the property owners the applicants stuff like that we could give them that direction this
evening Along with what sort of parameters we would like to see in that so they re not just
working blind but as much direction as we could give them If it s the council s desire not to go
forward here this evening then I think that s also direction that we d want to give this evening
So that everybody knows and so it s you know it doesn t drag on Those would be my thoughts
from what I m hearing tonight and obviously I m always open to listening what the rest of you
think and I don t have all the answers Most of them but not all of them And I 11 let you know
which ones I have the answers to by the way so So Councilman McDonald I think that to clarify
I think what s before us tonight I don t think we have enough tonight to approve something
specifically I think that was adequately raised but more in front of us tonight is is it a concept
that we think makes sense for people to spend time on that we d be supportive of if certain
parameters were met
Councilman McDonald Okay
Mayor Furlong Councilwoman Tjornhom
Councilwoman Tjornhom In regards to setting a precedent I know that was one of the
concerns the Planning Commission had for other planned unit developments or developments
What are we setting ourself up for or not setting ourself up for
Kate Aanenson Well I think the applicant I ll just point out one thing The applicant did point
out the size This is a smaller square footage area so we can quantify some of that Because it
wouldn t fit for a lot of the other fast food users like McDonalds and some of that because we
limit we d cap the square footage of that that could absorb this type of use and I ll let the City
Attorney address some other
Roger Knutson Mayor members of the council I think with careful drafting that shouldn t be
a real concern I think we can limit it to this what we have here
Mayor Furlong Other thoughts or comments
Councilman McDonald Well I had a couple other thoughts and everything to me I m in favor
of going forward Anytime someone will come up and say they re willing to work with staff
I m willing to listen The other thing about the traffic though I know down at Galpin this has
come up before It s a similar situation where you re coming out a Snyder Drug down there and
people are making U turns and I know that it s been addressed before and I m not sure there s a
lot we can do about it I don t know what you can do about the U turns and I guess at this point
I would maybe want to consider that as something outside of the application here It s something
I would definitely encourage staff to look at but I don t think we found a solution for Galpin yet
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and I m not sure we re going to find a solution for this one and I wouldn t necessarily want to
tie that in to whether or not this project goes forward
Councilman Litsey Yeah I think any time you have a layout like this coming off a main
thoroughway and then you re going to come in and then the tendency is to want to cut comers to
get back out again I was glad you didn t say aggressive enforcement because I don t think well
they have the staffing to promise that but
Kate Aanenson Well I think some of that can be addressed if we look at the traffic being
generated The directional I think one of the issues that you have is just traffic as a whole so I
think one of the resident raised the issue regarding doing a better traffic study What direction is
that traffic coming and going What are the peak hours of the use of the business and how that
relates too so I think we can try to manage it from there and then get some recommendations
from the City Engineer
Councilman Litsey Yeah I think if you could do it from an engineering standpoint but the one
that comes to mind for me is the Cub Foods in Shorewood right across from Chan but you know
there s a no right turn there but I ll tell you everybody makes I mean so signs are pretty I
mean if you can do it through engineering it s a whole lot better
Kate Aanenson Right Yep
Mayor Furlong And I guess to comment in that particular development the Cub Foods
development originally they didn t allow any egress out of the parking lot by the hardware store
but everybody did it anyway so they ended up building the road to accommodate what people
were doing I m not arguing that in this case I think you know people will find if you don t
have a right turn lane on a busy road they ll drive on the shoulder to get around cars and go I
think from a traffic standpoint the two issues here are one what s the traffic internal to this
development if we were to go forward with this What would be the traffic flow there and how
could we try to direct flow up to West 78th Street to exit as opposed to coming out on Century
Boulevard You raise a good point Councilman McDonald about the Galpin and 5 where the
Kwik Trip and the CVS is As I recall that CVS drive thru empties out going back to Galpin
Councilman McDonald Right
Mayor Furlong Here at least we ve got traffic going the other way so there may be some
accommodations there but I think the key is what can we do within the development and still
make it something that people are going to follow because even if you create all sorts of things
you know you can only do so much But I think traffic flow is clearly an issue that we want to
look at here Any other thoughts or comments on this at this point No Councilwoman
Tjornhom your thoughts
Councilwoman Tjornhom No Oh I m sorry
Councilwoman Ernst No go ahead
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Councilwoman Tjornhom I think it s something very worthy to be looking at If it s you know
my only concern was the pedestrian traffic crossing over into the drive thru traffic and it sounds
like you and the applicant can work together with that and I m all in favor of any business being
successful and having patrons come to it in Chanhassen especially at that front space that does
seem to so far not found a niche yet or something and so I wish you the best of luck and I look
forward to working with you With this project
Mayor Furlong Thank you Councilwoman Ernst
Councilwoman Ernst I too would be in favor of the concept and obviously we ve had some
tenants here tonight that have expressed being in favor of the business of the drive thru and we
also had a resident come in and express some concerns and it sounds like we have some possible
solutions for the landscaping piece And the fact that staff and the applicant can work together to
come to a solution hopefully on the traffic flow and so I would be in favor of the concept And
moving forward
Mayor Furlong Okay thank you Councilman Litsey Thoughts
Councilman Litsey No I think they ve been well stated I think looking for some ways to
direct traffic flow other than I mean signage helps but you know people are going to go the way
they want regardless of that so you re going to have come up with something a little better than
that And respecting the residents I think putting up some additional buffers there is reasonable
and I think the rest is pretty well in hand If we don t you know if we re not setting precedent I
think I said that right I never say that word right but you know then we can do that legally then
I think we re probably kind of getting there
Mayor Furlong Okay Thank you I think one of the other roles that the 5 of us have is that of
the Economic Development Authority and while often that s an entity that s created for separate
legal entity from the City for financing purposes I always look at it as really one of our goals as
a council is to promote and enhance our local economy That s good for our businesses It s
good for our residents as well and clearly I think in this development it has not achieved the
potential and what many people hoped for and expected in terms of economic success And here
we have an opportunity perhaps to enhance that and do it in a way without setting precedent but
at the same time do it in a way that makes some sense So I would support the concept of going
forward I think from thoughts and comments I would tend to side towards staff s proposed
design as opposed to what was presented before and I guess some examples I ll use is trying to
separate and here you may not be able to separate the pedestrians walking across the parking lot
and through there but perhaps with some median or something like that and a controlled
crossing or some signage you can do that I think of the McDonald s in Excelsior where the
drive thru comes right through the middle of the parking lot and that is it s a mess It s a mess
Compared to the McDonald s in Chanhassen where the drive thru wraps around the perimeter
and it s separated Here we may not have that benefit of separation but I think through some of
the designs that staff was looking at to try to mitigate some of that conflict I think helps So I
think my tendency would be let s work with some of the outlines that staff has put together You
know from is 6 cars is 5 stacking and I think we can be flexible there I think we need more
than the 2 in some of the other situations so I think we can be a little flexible there If we ve got
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some constraints here I think 6 is a good standard overall for new development Here we re
trying to retrofit and so there may be some other constraints that we have to work in So perhaps
a little flexibility I know it s not significant but perhaps moving a window can help reduce the
amount of the drive thru lane and still get you your 6 cars and so looking for those
accommodations The other thing I would talk about and I know Mr Etling brought up the idea
of landscaping I want to make sure we don t leave false impressions here That we re going to
be landscaping across or requiring landscaping outside the property I mean there s some
limitations we have too If we re looking at landscaping on the north side of West 78th and there
are two parcels inbetween so I think that s something we can look at so I don t want to leave
with false impressions that we re going to be doing that but I think we need to look at that See
what can be accommodated with this to try to find some solutions and we talked about traffic
already And you know I think there s some what it sounds like people smarter than I in terms
of traffic flow there are some ways to try to improve the traffic flow just naturally as well as
with some other means so But just from a standpoint of trying to assist the property owners and
the local businesses there to be more successful I think it s worthwhile for us moving forward
especially with the guidance we have this evening Mr Knutson who I always rely on that it
can be done in a way so it s relatively specific I think we ve got size issues I think you know
the fact that Century Boulevard is not a major through street It s effectively it drives up and
then stops at West 78th and then is a local residential street after that unlike a lot of other
neighborhood business areas where there s actually a crossing of major through streets and I m
not going to start talking about minor and major arterials because I ll screw that up but the
bottom line is is when Century Boulevard reaches West 78th going north of there that s a
residential neighborhood That s a residential street and so there are some unique features from I
think in terms of these properties from a traffic road design and it s location that s unlike some
of the other areas as I m thinking through business neighborhood areas That also I think gives
us some comfort that maybe we need to do a little bit more here to enhance economic success
from that standpoint So those are my thoughts I think the council seems to be generally unison
in supporting the concept and if other people have some thoughts I don t know if they ve
thought of since Otherwise would it make sense to take a motion to table with the direction to
bring it back as soon as possible but not set a specific meeting date knowing that there s some
work to be done between now Is that acceptable sir
Mark Leutem Yes sir
Mayor Furlong Okay thank you Any other comments or would somebody like to make such a
motion
Councilman McDonald I ll make a motion that we table this issue that is before us and allow
staff and the applicant to work together and bring us back a detailed plan that we can evaluate
Mayor Furlong Okay Thank you Is there any discussion or is there a second
Councilman Litsey I ll second that
Mayor Furlong Councilman Litsey seconds it Any discussion on that Very good Thank
you I will just make the comment Thank you everybody for your comments and input and we
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will get more detail back so I know for those that are concerned about what s coming forward
there will be that opportunity and that will come to a future council meeting It will stay at the
council level and come back to a future council meeting We ll bring it on unfinished business at
some point so that will be available And if anybody s interested in being notified of that why
don t you make sure you get your name and address and mailing information to Ms Aanenson
so you can be sure be notified Any other discussion If not motion s been made and seconded
Councilman McDonald moved Councilman Litsey seconded that the City Council table the
request for a minor PUD amendment to allow a drive thru and site plan review with
variances for Lot 2 Block 1 Arboretum Shopping Center to allow the applicant and staff
time to prepare a more detailed plan All voted in favor and the motion carried
unanimously with a vote of 5 to O
Mayor Furlong Without objection there s we ll take a 5 minute recess recess about 5 minutes
subject to the call of the Chair here noticing the time
The City Council took a short recess at this point in the meeting
Mayor Furlong Let s call the council back to order and what I d like to do and propose to the
council is some adjustments to our agenda this evening given the hour of the evening What
we d like to do we have a gentleman here to talk to us along with our staff for item 4 a I
think we d like to do that tonight We ll defer item 4 b since that again is a presentation
Neither of those items are action items by the council so we ll defer item 4 b to a future
meeting Go ahead with item 5 and then following our meeting this evening our work session
items we ll complete items B which relate to the budget presentations and then defer item C
under our work to a future work session So if the council is okay with that If there are no
objections Does that make sense It s just that it s getting a little late and some of these items
aren t time pressing so I d rather take them when we re all fresh Is everyone okay with that
Why don t we go ahead and proceed with that
WEST CENTRAL LOTUS LAKE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT 08 02 UPDATE
COUNCIL ON FEASIBILITY STUDY
Terry Jeffery Mayor Furlong council members In 2005 I think you remember we had the
Triple Crown Estate pond sometimes the Meadow Green Park ponds there was a failure when
we had back to back storms in 2005 In 2007 we went out for a proposal to do a feasibility
study to look at the larger what we refer to as the West Central Lotus Lake Watershed Todd
Hubmer when he shows his presentation will have you ll see that area as we re talking about In
February upon staff s recommendation council did approval feasibility study with WSB and
Associates to look at the larger West Central Lotus Lake area and the specific issues we have in
there WSB has come back with a feasibility study which we would like to present the findings
to you tonight In essence it breaks it down Looks at it as three separate phases over a series of
years that would address the overall issues There are a number of different what they re
referring to as options I would think of them more as components within an overall solution to
the problem which can be done with some flexibility when they are but again Todd Hubmer is
here from WSB and Associates I ll let him present to you the findings We would like to look
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PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
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Recreation Center
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MEMORANDUM
TO Todd Gerhardt City Manager
FROM Angie Auseth Planner I
Terry Jeffery Water Resources Coordinator
DATE OLtY
Ambrosen Senn Hard Surface Coverage Variance
Planning Case 08 24
January 12 2009
SUBJ
PROPOSED MOTION
The Chanhassen City Council denies Planning Case 08 24 for a 3 7
hard surface coverage variance to exceed the 25 impervious coverage
limitation by 1 038 square feet on Lot 7 Block 1 Maple Ridge Addition
with conditions 1 through 4 on pages 8 and 9 of the staff report and adoption
of the attached Findings of Fact and Action
City Council approval requires a majority of City Council present
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
The applicant is requesting a 3 7 hard surface coverage variance to exceed the
25 maximum hard surface coverage limitation by 1 038 square feet
Planning Commission Update
A Public Hearing was held at the December 2 2008 Planning Commission meeting
for this item The Planning Commission voted 6 to 0 to deny the variance request
The applicant is appealing the decision of the Planning Commission to the City
Council The City Council s decision requires a majority of members present
The applicant presented a narrati e dated December 1 2008 stating that the
topography of the site causes an undue hardship However based on the guidelines
of the City Code for the RSF district the property owner does have reasonable use
of the property which includes a single family home and three car garage
The Planning Commission discussed the fact that the applicant showed a reduction
of 1 039 square feet of hard coverage in order to obtain a building permit to
construct the additions This demonstrates that their goal of adding onto the home
and bringing the site into compliance with the 25 maximum hard surface coverage
can be achieved The homeowner submitted security and a signed escrow
agreement to ensure compliance with the decision of the Board of Adjustments and
Appeals
Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 243
Todd Gerhardt
Ambrosen Senn Hard Surface Coverage Variance
January 12 2009
Page 2
The applicant stated that the condition requiring an as built survey was added late in the process
however staff conveyed this requirement to the applicant prior to issuing the building permit
Water Resource Response
In response to the narrative given by the consultant on behalf of the applicant at the December 2
2008 Planning Commission Mr Bruning states that the patio and retaining walls located behind
the property are a solution to the erosion issues on the slope Staff disagrees with this statement
The very act of placing hard cover immediately adjacent to the top of bluff results in an increase
in the volume of water running off of the surface as well as a decrease in the time of
concentration for this runoff This means that more water is running off the area at an increased
velocity
Some of the water will infiltrate through the brick pavers but without an underlying layer of
engineered soils an underdrain system and regular maintenance this infiltration is limited and
l diminishes annually
Evidence visible in the
photographs such as
plant growth in the
joints and an absence of
granite chips in the
joints indicates that
regular maintenance of
the patio as a drainage
system does not take
place
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The re establishment of
a vegetative cover will
slow the movement of
surface water in the
area create a more
diffused flow pattern
and promote infiltration
of water into the soils
compared to an
engineered hardcover
system This would
also eliminate the need for the point discharge of drain tile westerly in the retaining wall system
Finally the removal of the vegetation on the bluff itself exposes the soil to the full erosive force
of the rainfall as well as the erosion which results from runoff No fewer than four trees were
removed on the bluff City code allows for the removal of thirty feet or thirty percent of the lot
width whichever is less This tree removal created a large opening in the canopy exposing a
considerable area of bare soil Replacement of these trees would go a long way to improve the
erosion problem on the lot
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The Planning Commission did not find any objection to staffs recommendation for the variance
request
The City Council minutes for December 2 2008 are item 1 a of the January 12 2009 City
Council Packet
RECOMMENDATION
Staff and the Planning Commission recommend the following motion
The Chanhassen City Council denies Planning Case 08 24 for a 3 7 hard surface coverage
variance to exceed the 25 impervious coverage limitation by 1 038 square feet on Lot 7 Block
1 Maple Ridge Addition with conditions 1 through 4 on pages 8 and 9 of the staff report and
adoption of the attached Findings of Fact and Action
ATTACHMENTS
1 Applicant Narrative dated December 1 2008
2 60 day Development Review Deadline extension letter dated December 5 2008
3 Planning Commission Staff Report Dated December 2 2008
g plan 2008 planning cases 08 24 ambrosen senn variance I 12 09 executive sumrnal doc
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December 1 2008
Staff has suggested that the only reasonable use of a property in R l zoning is a single
family home with a 2 car garage I submit that this view is not current thinking of land
use The majority of properties within 500 feet of this property are much more han that
10 out of 13 houses on Maple Shores Drive have 3 car garages or more a clear majority
In addition an examination of the aerial photos on the Carver County website shows that
20 of the 32 residences in this area appear to be over the 25 hardcover restriction some
extremely over These are pre existing standards for this neighborhood In comparison to
the majority of the homes in the area Mark Ambrosen and Ann Senn are not asking for
an unreasonable use of their property
Because of the shape and topography of their lot my clients need to use precious
hardcover for an atypically long driveway to access their home and a retaining waUl
patio drain system to protect it Three properties to the South have longer driveways than
my clients and each has a turnabout however they are all on near level lots Two have
flag lot exemptions to the hardcover requirement the remaining is on a much larger
property
To the East are the only two lots within 500 feet that have an elevation change greater
that this property however it is only slightly greater and over a longer distance This
property is unique in that it has both these elements combined on a parcel that is
substantially smaller than any of them The lot size combined with the shape and
topography is the hardship it is not self created the willingness to accept an undue
hardship does not negate the hardship or create it
The granting of this variance would not be detrimental to the public welfare or injurious
to other land or improvements in the neighborhood in which this parcel is located Mark
and Ann have incurred both the monetary and more importantly the hardcover expense to
mitigate the runoff erosion problem caused by the topography of their lot Without this
allocation of protective hardcover my clients would be able to construct their addition
a nd meet the hard surface coverage limitation while maintaining their driveway and
turnabout They should not be penalized for their efforts to comply with the spirit of the
hardcover code simply because they don t meet the letter of that code However denial of
this variance could endanger public safety While staff s finding offact does not agree
we feel that backing a vehicle down a narrow wooded sloped driveway in excess of 130
could be a danger to public safety
I ask that the Planning Commission consider the following actions
1 Grant the variance as requested
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2 Grant an exemption to the hardcover calculation for the retaining wall patio
drain system in the rear of the home The City currently recognizes similar
exemptions for swimming pools and driveways on flag lots etc
3 Request that the City Council consider recognizing other means of mitigating
hardcover see list in original narrative
4 Modify the recently added condition requiring my clients to use an as built
survey signed by a registered land surveyor to ensure that the lot complies with
the 25 hard surface coverage We request that if the variance is denied Mark
and Ann should be asked to maintain there existing hardcover condition currently
at an estimated 25 7 The current excess hardcover is a pre existing condition
that appears prevalent in the area
We appreciate your considerations for this variance
4
rung
Senior Designer
Sawhorse Designers and Builders
763 533 0352
fredbruning@sawhorseusa com
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building lnspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
6 5 2 f
December 5 2008
Fred Bruning
Sawhorse Design Builders
4740 42nd A venue North
Robbinsdale MN 55422
Re Hard Surface Coverage Variance Development Review Deadline
3830 Maple Shores Drive Planning Case 08 24
Dear Mr Bruning
Your hard surface coverage variance request appeal has been scheduled for the
January 12 2009 City Council meeting This date exceeds the application review
deadline as required by State Statute Being that staff is unable to process this
application within the 60 day review deadline the City is taking an additional 60
days to complete its review The review deadline for this item is now February
28 2009
If you have any questions please feel free to contact me at 952 227 1132 or
aauseth@ci chanhassen mn us
Sincerely
Angie Auseth
Planner I
cc Mark Ambrosenand Ann Senn
ec Kate Aanenson Community Development Director
G PLAN 2008 Planning Cases 08 24 Ambrosen Sennyariance ExtensionLetter doc
SCANNED
Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 248
Auseth Angie
From
Sent
To
Subject
Fred Bruning FredBruning@Sawhorseusa com
Friday December 05 200811 06 AM
Auseth Angie
RE Variance decision appeal
Angie
We would like to appeal the decision of the Planning Commission to the City Council Could you tell me the date the
appeal would be heard Would you confirm this request for the appeal
Thank you
Fred
Original Messagem
From Auseth Angie mailto aauseth@cLchanhassen mn us
Sent Wednesday December 03 2008 9 36 AM
To Fred Bruning
Cc Aanenson Kate Meuwissen Kim
Subject Variance decision appeal
Fred
I wanted to remind you that you have four days in which to submit a written request to appeal the decision of
the Planning Commission to the City Council The appeal must be submitted no later than Monday December
8 2008 If an appeal is not submitted the decision of the Planning Commission is final
Please let me know if you have any question
Sincerely
Angie
Angie Auseth
Planner I
City of Chanhassen
7700 Market Blvd
Chanhassen MN 55317
Direct dial 952 227 1132
Fax 952 227 1110
email aauseth@cLchanhassen mn us
Website www cLchanhassen mn us
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CC DATE 1 12 09
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN REVIEW DEADLINE 12 30 08
CASE 08 24
BY AA TJ JM JS
PROPOSED MOTION The Chanhassen Planning Commission denies Planning Case 08 24
for a 3 7 hard surface coverage variance to exceed the 25 impervious coverage limitation by
1 038 square feet on Lot 7 Block 1 Maple Ridge Addition and adoption of the attached Findings
of Fact and Action
SUMMARY OF REQUEST The applicant is requesting a 3 7 hard surface coverage
variance to exceed the 25 impervious coverage limitation by 1 038 square feet on a lakeshore
lot zoned Single Family Residential RSF
LOCATION 3830 Maple Shores Drive
Lot 7 Block 1 Maple Ridge Addition
Fred Bruning ark Ambrosen Ann Senn
Sawhorse Design Builders 3830 Maple Shores Drive
4740 42nd Avenue North Excelsior MN 55331
Robbinsdale MN 55422
APPLICANT
PRESENT ZONING Single Family Residential RSF
2020 LAND USE PLAN Residential Low Density 1 2 4 units per acre
ACREAGE 0 64 acres DENSITY N A
ADJACENT ZONING The properties to the north west and east are zoned Single Family
Residential RSF and contain single family homes Lake Minnewashta is located to the south
WATER AND SEWER Water and sewer service is available to the site
LEVEL OF CITY DISCRETION IN DECISION MAKING
The City s discretion in approving or denying a variance is limited to whether or not the
proposed project meets the standards in the Zoning Ordinance for a variance The City has a
relatively high level of discretion with a variance because the applicant is seeking a deviation
from established standards This is a quasi judicial decision
SCANNED
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Ambrosen Senn Variance Request
Planning Case 08 24
December 2 2008
Page 2 of9
APPLICABLE REGULATIONS
Chapter 20 Article II Division 3 Variances
Chapter 20 Article XII Shoreland Management District
Chapter 20 Article XII Single Family Residential RSF District
Section 20 615 5 Lot requirements and setbacks
Chapter 20 Article XXIII General Supplemental Regulations
Section 20 908 Yard Regulations
PROPOSAL SUMMARY
The applicant is requesting a 3 7 hard surface coverage variance to construct improvements
including garage expansion house addition and driveway expansion on property located at 3830
Maple Shores Drive Lot 7 Block I Maple Ridge Addition
The 28 100 square foot lot is a lakeshore lot located on the west side of Lake Minnewashta The
applicant submitted and obtained a building permit in addition to the variance application to add
two additions onto the home and necessary accesses totaling 848 square feet
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Ambrosen Senn Variance Request
Planning Case 08 24
December 2 2008
Page 3 of9
The applicant wanted to commence construction before the ground froze therefore staff worked
with the applicant to process the building permit prior to the scheduled Planning Commission
meeting
The applicant demonstrated that the site could comply with the 25 hard surface coverage by
proposing to remove 1 039 square feet of hard surface Staff has obtained a security deposit and a
signed escrow agreement to ensure the removal and revegetation of the hard surfaces exceeding
25 should the variance be denied Staffhas advised the applicant of staffs interpretation and
recommendation for the denial of the request
The homeowner currently has reasonable use ofthe property which includes a single family home
and a three car garage The applicant has demonstrated that the hard surface coverage on the site
can be reduced to achieve their goal of constructing the additions on the site This request is a self
created hardship as defined by the City Code Staff is recommending denial of the variance
request
BACKGROUND
The property is located on Lot 7 Block 1 Maple Ridge Addition which is zoned Single Family
Residential RSF The Maple Ridge Addition was platted in 1985 and consists of 13 lots The
subject property was developed in 1986 and complies with the current standards for a riparian
lot Minimum lot area for a riparian lot in the RSF district is 20 000 square feet The subject site
has an area of 28 1 00 square feet 0 64 acres
The Single Family Residential zoning
district was adopted in 1972 which
includes the maximum 25 hard
surface coverage per lot Staff met with
the applicant to discuss the proposed
additions to the home Staff informed
the applicant that a variance would be
required for the 848 square foot
expansions as the site would exceed the
25 maximum hard surface coverage
by 3 7
The expansions include converting one
stall of the three car garage into a
laundry room and adding a new third
stall onto the north side of the existing v
garage a driveway expansion to access
the third stall and a two story theater
addition with a wraparound balcony on the east side of the house with concrete stairs and patio
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Ambrosen Senn Variance Request
Planning Case 08 24
December 2 2008
Page 4 of9
The applicant wanted to
commence construction
prior to the ground
freezing the applicant
applied for a variance and
a building permit
simultaneously
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The subject site is a riparian lot and has an area of 281 000 square feet which exceeds the
minimum lot area in the RSF district by greater than 8 000 square feet Additionally the site
currently exceeds the 25 hard surface coverage by 190 square feet The applicant is requesting
a variance to increase the size of the home garage and site improvements by 848 square feet and
keep the existing hard surfaces currently on the site The applicant is requesting a 3 7 1 038
square foot hard surface coverage variance
Existing
Existing Lot size 281 000
House garage 2 779
Driveway entry concrete 3 143 sidewalk
Shed concrete 120
Walkout patio pavers 723
Fire pit patio pavers 250
Dog kennel concrete 167
Pad for gas grill concrete 33
Total 7 215
Percentage 25 7
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House garage additions
Service door pad
Driveway spur
connection
Steps patio for
addition
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Variance Re uest
Square footage
Request
Percentage
Without reductions
692
3x6 concrete 18
90
6 treads 48
848
1 038
28 7
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Planning Case 08 24
December 2 2008
Page 5 of9
Site Characteristics
The subject site is located at the end of a cul de sac The property is an inverted L shape and
the majority of the property is oriented north south to the lake Most of the south side of the lot is
a bluff with an elevation change over 46 feet and occurs within the first 70 feet abutting the lake
The soils are classified as highly erodible land by the USDA Natural Resources Conservation
Service
Driveway
Due to the L shape of the property
and location of the home on the lot the
driveway is over 130 feet in length and
includes a turnabout The driveway
occupies II of the allowed hard
surface coverage of the lot 3 143
square feet The applicant states that
removing the turnabout is a hardship as
the alternative is to drive in reverse
down the 130 plus foot driveway
However as part of the building permit
and several discussions with the
applicant it was conveyed by the
applicant on behalf of the homeowner
In the past there have been erosion
issues concerning the bluff on the site
To mitigate the erosion problems the
applicant has had retaining walls
engineered and a patio installed on the
site However increasing the
hardcover will subsequently increase
the volume and rate of runoff and may
lead to additional erosion
As shown in the photograph to the left
wood stairs have been installed down
the bluff from the home to the lake to
provide access This is permitted
through Sec 20 1402 Stairways lifts
and landings of the City Code
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Planning Case 08 24
December 2 2008
Page 6 of9
that the turnabout portion could be removed to meet the 25 coverage to receive building permit
approval for the additions Therefore the hardship is self created
Upon inspection of the site staff noted that the driveway is relatively flat and straight Driving
in reverse down the driveway does not create a safety issue and does not require a turnabout as
outlined in the City Code
According to Section 20 1122 11 of the City Code a turnabout is required on driveways that
enter onto a state highway county road or collector roadway and city streets where deemed
necessary by the city engineer based on traffic counts sight distances street grades or other
relevant factors
The subject site is located at the end of a
cul de sac that serves 13 single family
homes Of the 13 properties four have
driveways longer than 30 feet which is the
minimum front yard setback requirement in
the RSF district The subject site is the only
driveway with a turnabout which the
applicant has demonstrated can be removed
if the variance is denied Additionally
Maple Shores Drive is not a through street
and non residential traffic is minimal
Compliance
The applicant has demonstrated that the goals of the homeowner to add on to the home can be
achieved without the need for a variance The applicant wanted to begin construction of the
additions before winter and submitted a building permit prior to the Planning Commission
meeting to construct the additions The applicant has submitted an application for a building
permit which does not increase the hardcover Instead it mitigates for the hardcover by eliminating
several ofthe existing elements on the property the driveway dog kennel grill pad and portion of
the patio near the lake
Compliance
Total existing Proposed 8 063
Total reductions 1 039
Proposed Total 7 024
Percentage w reductions 24 9
Proposed Reductions
Dog kennel change to pea rock 167
Pad for gas grill eliminate 33
Driveway turnabout reduce 725
Fire pit size reduction 50
Driveway in front of 64
new laundry Room
Total 1 039
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The applicant submitted security and
signed an escrow agreement stating that
should the variance be denied the excess
hard surface coverage would be removed
by May 31 2009 A condition is added that an as built survey signed by a registered land
surveyor is required to ensure the lot complies with the 25 hard surface coverage The
registered land survey must be submitted to the City by June 15 2009
Ambrosen Senn Variance Request
Planning Case 08 24
December 2 2008
Page 7 of9
In speaking with the applicant prior to
issuing the building permit the applicant
explained that the additions were
important to the homeowner who was
willing to risk the turnabout in the
driveway and various hard surfaces on
the site to be able to begin construction
It is staffs interpretation that this request
is a self created hardship
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In addition the applicant stated that a portiones of the 250 square foot patio and 120 square foot
shed located near the lake could be removed or reduced to bring the site into compliance with the
25 maximum hard surface coverage for the site if necessary
500 feet
The City Code states that a variance may be granted if the literal enforcement causes undue
hardship and the property owner does not have reasonable use of the property which includes
comparable properties within 500 feet
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Planning Case 08 24
December 2 2008
Page 8 of9
Of the properties within 500 feet of the
subject site outlined in yellow there have
been two variance requests outlined in
green One of the requests was for a 2
foot side yard setback to construct a two
car garage at 3841 Red Cedar Point Drive
The second request was for a 79 foot lot
frontage variance for the construction of a
single family home at 3727 South Cedar
The consultant for the applicant suggests a
number of examples for reducing the impact
of increased hardcover While it may be true
that some of these practices would offset the
effects of increased hardcover there is no
process by which these alternative
management practices can be evaluated
There is also no way to assure that these
alternative practices will be kept in place in
the future It is the intent of the hardcover
code to maximize vegetative cover as much
as it is to minimize total paved area The benefits garnered by maintaining an area in natural
vegetative cover will always outweigh the benefits of an engineered pavement system regardless of
how well designed or installed
The applicant has not demonstrated a hardship that would warrant the granting of a variance
Under the current conditions the homeowner has reasonable use of the property including a
single family home and a three car garage The hardships listed by the applicant are not
inconsistent with the criteria specified in the Zoning Ordinance for granting a variance
Therefore staff is recommending denial of the variance
RECOMMENDATION
Staffrecommends that the Planning Commission adopt the following motion and the adoption of
the attached findings of fact and action
The Chanhassen Planning Commission denies Planning Case 08 24 for a 3 7 hard surface
coverage variance on Lot 7 Block 1 Maple Ridge Addition and adoption of the attached
Findings of Fact and Action and subject to the following conditions
1 The site must comply with the 25 maximum hard surface coverage requirement as
outlined in the City Code
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Planning Case 08 24
December 2 2008
Page 9 of9
2 Excess hard surface coverage must be removed and revegetated no later than May 31 2009
3 An as built survey signed by a registered land surveyor is required and must be submitted
no later than June 15 2009 to ensure compliance
4 Final building inspection will not be approved until verification of compliance
ATTACHMENTS
1 Findings of Fact and Action
2 Development Review Application
3 Reduced copy of site layout stamped Received October 31 2008
4 Reduced copy of architect drawings stamped Received October 31 2008
5 Letter attached to Building Permit dated November 20 2008
6 Copy of Escrow Agreement
7 Public Hearing Notice and Affidavit of Mailing
8 Reduced copy of site layout with removal areas stamped Received November 7 2008
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES MINNESOTA
FINDINGS OF FACT
AND ACTION
IN RE Application of Mark Ambrosen and Ann Senn for a 3 7 hard surface coverage variance
from the 25 maximum hard surface coverage in the Single Family Residential RSF District
Planning Case No 08 24
On December 2 2008 the Chanhassen Planning Commission met at its regularly
scheduled meeting to consider the application of Mark Ambrosen and Ann Senn for a 3 7 hard
surface coverage variance from the 25 maximum hard surface coverage to allow 1 038 square
feet of hard surfaces at 3830 Maple Shores Drive located in the Single Family Residential District
RSF on Lot 7 Block 1 Maple Ridge Addition The Planning Commission conducted a public
hearing on the proposed variance that was preceded by published and mailed notice The
Planning Commission heard testimony from all interested persons wishing to speak and now
makes the following
FINDINGS OF FACT
1 The property is currently zoned Single Family Residential RSF
2 The property is guided by the Land Use Plan for Residential Low Density 1 2 4 units per
acre
3 The legal description of the property is Lot 7 Block 1 Maple Ridge Addition
4 The Board of Adjustments and Appeals shall not recommend and the City Council shall not
grant a variance unless they find the following facts
a That the literal enforcement of this chapter would cause an undue hardship Undue hardship
means that the property cannot be put to reasonable use because of its size physical
surroundings shape or topography Reasonable use includes a use made by a majority of
comparable property within 500 feet of it The intent of this provision is not to allow a
proliferation of variances but to recognize that there are pre existing standards in this
neighborhood Variances that blend with these pre existing standards without departing
downward from them meet this criteria
Finding The literal enforcement of this chapter does not cause an undue hardship The
applicant currently has reasonable use of the property including a single family home and a
three car garage and a turnabout in the over l30 foot long drive The applicant showed the
removal of 1 039 square feet of existing impervious surfaces including the removal of the
turnabout 725 square feet in order to obtain a building permit to construct 848 square feet
of home improvements on the site while maintaining 24 9 hard surface coverage This
demonstrates that the applicant can achieve their goals of constructing the additions and
comply with City Code Therefore the hard surface coverage variance request is a self
created hardship
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b The conditions upon which a petition for a variance is based are not applicable generally to
other property within the same zoning classification
Finding The conditions upon which this variance is based are applicable to all properties
within the Single Family Residential District All properties within the RSF district are
limited by the 25 maximum hard surface coverage In the past there has been erosion
problems in the bluff located on the south side of the property Retaining walls have been
constructed on the site to mitigate those erosion issues however increasing the hard surface
coverage on the site will increase the runoff and may cause additional erosion issues
c The purpose of the variation is not based upon a desire to increase the value or income
potential of the parcel ofland
Finding The intent of the request is not based on the desire to increase the value of the
home The property owner s intent is to increase the livable area ofthe home in addition to
the existing hard surface coverage on the site The applicant has demonstrated that additions
can be constructed and the site can be brought into compliance with the 25 maximum hard
surface limitation as outlined in the City Code
d The alleged difficulty or hardship is not a self created hardship
Finding The applicant has reasonable use of the property as a single family home and a
three car garage are currently located on the site The applicant has demonstrated that 1 039
square feet of hard surface coverage can be removed to meet the 25 hard surface coverage
limitation in the RSF district in order to construct 848 square feet of improvements As part
of the building permit the applicant included removal of the turnabout in the driveway 725
square feet Prior to issuing a building permit for the improvements and processing the
variance request staff advised the applicant of staffs interpretation and recommendation for
the denial of the request This request is a self created hardship
e The granting of the variance will not be detrimental to the public welfare or injurious to
other land or improvements in the neighborhood in which the parcel is located
Finding The granting of a variance may be detrimental to the public welfare or injurious to
other land or improvements in the neighborhood in which the parcel is located The
increase in the amount of hard surface coverage on the site will increase the runoff from the
site and may cause additional erosion which may run into Lake Minnewashta
f The proposed variation will not impair an adequate supply of light and air to adjacent
property or substantially increase the congestion of the public streets or increase the danger
of fire or endanger the public safety or substantially diminish or impair property values
within the neighborhood
Finding The proposed home will not impair an adequate supply of light or air to the
adjacent property or substantially increase the congestion ofthe public streets or increase the
danger of fire or endanger the public safety or diminish property values within the
neighborhood
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5 The planning report 08 24 dated December 2 2008 prepared by Angie Auseth et aI is
incorporated herein
ACTION
The Planning Commission denies Planning Case 08 24 for a 3 7 hard surface
coverage variance from the 25 maximum hard surface coverage to allow 1 038 square feet of
hard surfaces on Lot 7 Block 1 Maple Ridge Addition based on these findings of fact
ADOPTED by the Chanhassen Planning Commission on this 2nd day of December 2008
CHANHASSEN CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
BY
Its Chair
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Planning Case No 6 6 G
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard P O Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317 952 227 1100
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATION
PLEASE PRINT
Applicant Name and Address
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Owner Name and Address
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NOTE Consultation with City staff is reQuired prior to submittaJ including review of development
plans
Comprehensive Plan Amendment Temporary Sales Permit
Conditional Use Permit CUP Vacation of Right of Way Easements VAC
Interim Use Permit IUP y Variance VAR
Non conforming Use Permit Wetland Alteration Permit WAP
Planned Unit Development Zoning Appeal
Rezoning Zoning Ordinance Amendment
Sign Permits
CITY OF CHANHA C SFI
RECEIVED
Sign Plan Review OCT 3 1 20U8 X Notification Sign 200
City to install and remove
X Escrow for Filing Fees Attorney Cost
50 CUP SPRNACNARIWAP Metes Bounds
450 Minor SUB
TOTAL FEE S t 1 50 CD
CHANHASSHl C J I
Site Plan Review SPR
Subdivision
An additional fee of 3 00 per address within the public hearing notification area will be invoiced to the applicant
prior to the public hearing
Sixteen 16 full size folded copies of the ptans must be submitted including an 8 X 11
reduced copy for each plan sheet along with a diaital COpy in TIFF Group 4 tit format
Escrow will be required for other applications through the development contract
Building material samples must be submitted with site plan reviews
NOTE When multiple applications are processed the appropriate fee shall be charged for
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PROJECT NAME ADO or l l nf t YlA u J i 1 d1 L t G v I t J w A l p lOrJ
LOCATION lR o rl LE 5 I lIUc
LEGAL DESCRIPTION AND PID Loi aD DdL 1 C lb4 At
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PRESENT ZONING
REQUESTED ZONING
PRESENT lAND USE DESIGNATION
REQUESTED LAND USE DESIGNATION
REASON FOR REQUEST
FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW Indude number of existing employees and new employees
This application must be completed in full and be typewritten or clearly printed and must be accompanied by all information
and plans required by applicable City Ordinance provisions Before filing this application you should confer with the
Planning Department to determine the specific ordinance and procedural requirements applicable to your application
A determination of completeness of the application shall be made within 15 business days of application submittal A written
notice ot application deficiencies shall be mailed to the applicant within 15 business days of application
This is to certify that I am making application for the described action by the City and that I am responsible for complying with
all City requirements with regard to this request This application should be processed in my name and I am the party whom
the City should contact regarding any matter pertaining to this application I have attached a copy of proof of ownership
either copy of owner s Duplicate Certificate of Title Abstract of TItle or purchase agreement or I am the authorized person
to make this application and the fee owner has also signed this application
I will keep myself informed of the deadlines for submission of material and the progress of this application I further
understand that additional fees may be charged for consulting fees feasibility studies etc with an estimate prior to any
authorization to proceed with the study The documents and information I have submitted are true and correct to the best of
my knowledge
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CHANHASSEN PLANNiNG DEP7
October 9 2008
Sawhorse Designers Builders
4720 42ND Ave N
Robbinsdale Minnesota 55422
Fax 763 533 2668
Phone 763 533 0352
SUBJECT Lot7t Block 1 Maple Ridget Carver CountYt Mn
3830 Maple Shores Dr
Excelsior MN 55331
To Whom It May Concern
We hereby certify that the acreage of the above mentioned Lot 7 is 28 100 square feet more or
less or 0 65 acres
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Henry D elson
Land Surveyor
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14800 28th AVinue North Suite 740 Plymouth Minnesota 55447
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CHANHASSEN PLANNING DEP7
The home of Mark Ambrosen and Ann Senn is localed at 3830 Maple Shores Drive
Maple Shores Drive is a street with an ascending elevation to Lake l vlinnewashta vhen it
terminates at their property its e1e ation is at its llmximum The North to South elevation
change of this property is over 46 feetI his dramatic change is fimher exacerbated by the
slight change in grade for the first 70 f Cet abutting the lake Their property is also usually
shaped a canted 1 with its narrowest border abutting Maple Shores Drive While the
size of their lot would normally easily allow them to comply with the hardcover portion
of the code these two factors
i Shape of the Lot Because of its shape the buildable area is limited to the Eastern side
of the lot requiring an extremely long driveway to access the home Driveways of this
length create the need of a turnabout The combined hardcover of these two elements is
3143 sq ft 13 more thanlhe 2779 sq n f Jotprint of the home itself This
disproportionate percentage of hardcover needing to be utilized for a driveway is a
hardship
2 Topography Because of the dramatic change in grade on the South of their lot rvlark
and Ann were faced with an erosion problem at the rear of their home Water had eroded
the slope to within six feet oftheir foundation rhe solution vas to constmcl a series of
retaining walls a paver patio and a system of drains installed along the entire rear
elevation of their home This 723 sqft of hardcover vas designed to alleviate the
problem They are not inclined to remove this protection to their home The amount of
hardcover needed to provide this protection is a hardshIp
We are asking for a variance to the hardcover ordinance to 28 5 vs the 25 1 required
Findings for granting a variance Mark Ambrosen and Ann Senn did lJot create these
hardships Reasonable use aerial photos of the neighborhood show that this I shaped
lot and this length driveway is atypical to immediate vicinity The purpose of this
request for variance is not based on a desire to increase the value or income potential of
this land The owners simply want to use the property differently The granting of this
variance would not he deh imental to the public welfare or il urious to other land or
improvements in the neighborhood nor would the variance impair an adequate supply
of light and air to adjacent property it would not increase congestion of the public
streets increase the danger offire endanger the public saf Cty or diminish or impair
property values in the neighborhood
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1 The strict literal enforcement the hardcover code over its intent is a hardship in
itself Mark and Ann afe two of the most environmentally people 1 ve
known They understand need to restrict water into our lakes streams
They don t understand why a viable that can accomplish the spirit of the
code cannot be used silnply because it doesn t follovv the letter oCt he code We
a few examples
a More permeable alternative surfaces available the Uof 1Vl
Arboretum has been testing systems promoting to improve vater quality nm off
issues from parking lots driveways and patios recent Kare 11 expose
b Downspouts that can direct water to otherwise inaccessible permeable areas
c Holding ponds
Drain fields
to permit to permeable areas
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including not limited ground cover grade
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and Ann vould like to alter their home
in order to stay in a community and
the to hardcover would
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
AdministratiDn
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
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Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
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Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
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Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
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Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
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Public Works
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Phone 952 227 1300
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Senior Center
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Web Site
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November 20 2008
Mark Ambrosen and Ann Senn
3830 Maple Shores Drive
Excelsior MN 55331
Dear Mr Ambrosen and Ms Senn
Due to the construction season coming to a close as winter approaches and your
desire to add on to your home while exceeding the hard surface requirements on
the property both a building permit and a hard surface coverage variance
application have be simultaneously submitted to the City of Channassen
The hard surface coverage variance request will be heard at the December 2 2008
Planning Commission meeting Prior to that meeting you have submitted security
in the amount of 4 000 and a signed Escrow Agreement to the City to ensure the
removal of the excess hard surface coverage should the variance be denied
As stated in the escrow agreement the removal and revegetation must be
completed no later than May 31 2009 Should this condition not be met the City
may draw on the security to bring the site into compliance The final building
inspection will not be approved and an asbuilt survey signed by a registered land
surveyor will be required for the property to verify compliance with the decision
of the Planning Commission City Council
Should you have any questions please contact me 3 t952 227 1132 or
aauseth@ci chanhassen mn us
Best regards
Angie
Planner I
cc Building File
ec Alyson Fauske Assistant City Engineer
Jerry Mohn Building Official
Kate Aanenson Community Development Director
Todd Gerhardt City Manager
Terry Jeffery Water Resources Coordinator
Roger Knutson City Attorney
Fred Brunning Saw Horse Designers Builders
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ESCROW AGREEMENT
This Agreement is made as of I I IioJ 2008 by and between Mark Ambrosen and
AIm Senn husband and wife Applicants and the City of Chanhassen a Minnesota mtmicipal
corporation City
RECITALS
A The Applicants are the owners of real property located at 3830 Maple Shores Drive in the
City of Chanhassen the Property
B The Applicants have applied for a building pem1it for the construction of a building
addition the Building Addition to the Property
C Construction of the Building Addition results 111 28 5 impervious coverage which
exceeds that which is allowed by City Code
D The Applicants have applied for an impervious surface coverage vanance the
Variance
E The Applicants have submitted plans the Plans with the building permit that indicate
that certain impervious areas the Impervious Areas on the Property wiII be removed in order
to comply with the City s imperviolls surface requirement in the event that the Variance is not
granted
F The estimated cost to remove the Tmoerviolls Areas and revee etate with seed and mulch
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is 4 000
AGREEMENT
NOW THEREFORE in consideration of the facts recited above and other good and
valuable consideration the receipt and sufficiency of which are hereby acknowledged the parties
agree as follows
1 Establishment of Escrow The Applicants hereby escrow with the City the sum of 4 000
the Funds to be held pursuant to the terms of this Agreement The Funds must be deposited
by the Applicants in cash
2 Completion of Work by the Applicants The Applicants agree to construct improvements
as shown on the Plans The Impervious Areas must be removed and revegetated by May 31
2009 unless the City has granted a variance If the Applicants do notremove and revegetate the
Imprevious Area in the event a variance has not been approved by May 31 2009 the City may
draw down the escrowed funds and the City and it s contractor s may enter the property and do
the work
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3 Return of Funds to the AJ2RJicants Unless the City has drawl1 down the escrowed funds
as provided herein the Funds shall be returned to the Applicants without interest when the
Impervious Areas are removed and revegetated In the event that the Variance is granted the
Funds shall be returned to the Applicants
6 Amendment of Escrow No rescission or modification to this escrow agreement shall be
effective without written consent of the City and the Applicants
IN WITNESS WHEREOF the parties have executed this Agreement as of the day and
year first above written
PROPERTY OWNERS
Mark Ambrosen
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ST ATE OF MINNESOTA
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COUNTY OF CARVER
Tpe foregoing instrument was acknowledged before me this day of
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
AFFIDA VIT OF MAILING NOTICE
STATE OF MINNESOTA
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COUNTY OF CARVER
I Karen J Engelhardt being first duly sworn on oath deposes that she is and was on
November 20 2008 the duly qualified and acting Deputy Clerk of the City of Chanhassen
Minnesota that on said date she caused to be mailed a copy of the attached notice of Public
Hearing for the AmbrosenlSenn Variance Planning Case 08 24 to the persons named on
attached Exhibit A by enclosing a copy of said notice in an envelope addressed to such owner
and depositing the envelopes addressed to all such owners in the United States mail with postage
fully prepaid thereon that the names and addresses of such owners were those appearing as such
by the records of the County Treasurer Carver County Minnesota and by other appropriate
records
Subscribed and sworn to before me
this day of N veYV 2008
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THOMAS MARY MANN
7211 MINNEWASHTA PKWY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9668
GARY THOMAS DIANE E COBB
3859 RED CEDAR POINT DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 7766
PETER M CARLA M BENJAMIN
7231 MINNEWASHTA PKWY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9668
TIMOTHY J LAURIE A JENZER
3920 MAPLE SHORES DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9629
JASON E CARRIE S LANDSTROM
7301 MINNEWASHTA PKY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9670
JOANN J HALLGREN
3921 MAPLE SHORES DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9629
TERRY D CARRIE B CARNS
3911 MAPLE SHORES DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9629
ROBBY 0 SUSAN E SEGAL
3901 MAPLE SHORES DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9629
CHARLIE S SCIMECA
3900 MAPLE SHORES DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9629
THOMAS L SANDRA M GIESEN
3930 MAPLE SHORES DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9629
FRANCES T BORCHART
7331 MINNEWASHTA PKWY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9670
CRAIG D JANIE S NORBY
7351 MINNEWASHTA PKWY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9670
THOMAS P MANN
7211 MINNEWASHTA PKWY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9668
PETER J SCHISSEL
3851 RED CEDAR POINT RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 7766
KEVIN M CLARK
3841 RED CEDAR POINT DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 7766
JIM P SUSAN M GULSTRAND
3831 RED CEDAR POINT RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 7766
MICHAEL 0 CYNTHIA H WENNER
3801 RED CEDAR POINT RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 7766
HEIDI ANN MARX
3755 RED CEDAR POINT RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9676
JASON A JERNELL
3821 RED CEDAR POINT RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 7766
TAB B KAY M ERICKSON
3720 SOUTH CEDAR DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9687
GERALD MELANIE KELLY
3841 MAPLE SHORES DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9602
BRADLEY D BONNIE J STRAKA
3881 MAPLE SHORES DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9602
RUSSELL C KRISTI M LEUTHOLD
3861 MAPLE SHORES DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9602
DAVID BARBARA A SCOULER
3890 MAPLE SHORES DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9602
DEAN J JILL R BARTA
3837 RED CEDAR POINT RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 7766
ROBERT C ANN OSBORNE
3815 RED CEDAR POINT RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 7766
MARK E AMBROSEN
ANN C SENN
3830 MAPLE SHORES DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9602
WILLIAM R HAUGH
3727 SOUTH CEDAR DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9688
JAMES P SUSAN S ROSS
3725 SOUTH CEDAR DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9688
CAROLYN A BARINSKY
3719 SOUTH CEDAR DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9688
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KENT J JULIE A FORSS
3850 MAPLE SHORES DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9602
JOSEPH H GEORGIA G KANDIKO
3870 MAPLE SHORES DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 9602
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Correspondence Packet
Letter from Elliott Knetsch Campbell Knutson re Fourth Quarter 2008 Prosecution Statistics
dated January 2 2009
Letter from Melissa Brechon Library Director dated December 22 2008
Letter from David Baker CenterPoint Energy dated December 30 2008
Article from the Hawk Herald not dated
Memo from Greg Sticha Finance Director re Review of Claims Paid dated January 2 2009
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Thomas J Campbell
Roger N Knutson
Thomas M Scott
Elliott B Knetsch
Joel J Jamnik
Andrea McDowell Poehler
Soren M Mattick
John F Kelly
Henry A Schaeffer III
Alina Schwartz
Samuel J Edmunds
Cynthia R Kirchoff
Marguerite M McCarron
1380 Corporate Center Curve
Suite 317 Eagan MN 55121
651 452 5000
Fax 651 452 5550
www ck Iaw com
CAMPBELL KNUTSON
Professional Association
January 2 2009
Mr Todd Gerhardt
City of City of Chanhassen
7700 Market Boulevard
P O Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Re Chanhassen Prosecution Fourth Quarter 2008 Statistics
Dear Todd
Enclosed please find a copy of the fourth quarter prosecution statistics along
with the Case Outcome Reports for files closed during the fourth quarter
Please call me at 651 234 6233 if you have any questions regarding this
information
Very truly yours
Elliott B
EBK blk
Enclosures RECE lED
JAM 6 20G9
Q N OF CHANHASSEN
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Chanhassen Prosecution
October 1 2008 December 31 2008
New 2008 files opened 86
Gross Misdemeanors
Gross Misdemeanors DWI
Total Gross Misdemeanors
8
16
Misdemeanors
Domestic Assaults Misdemeanors
Petty Misdemeanors
Total Misdemeanors
57
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Serving you with branches in
Chanhassen Chaska Norwood lOung America
Waconia and Watertown
Administrative Office
4 City Hall Plaza
Chaska MN 55318
952 448 9395
Fax 952 448 9392
December 22 2008
Todd Gerhardt City Manager
City of Chanhassen
7700 Market Blvd
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Dear Todd
On December 16th the County Board of Commissioners approved the 2009 County Budget which
resulted in two cuts to the library budget for next year The first cut of 207 127 reduced the library
collection budget by 38 conference training budget and eliminated a 14 hour staff position at the
Chaska Library The second cut of 70 000 reduced 46 hours of staff time
As a result of this second cut we needed to look at a reduction in library public service hours in all library
branches The Chanhassen Library will not be part of a reduction in service hours for the first quarter of
2009 since an unpaid leave by a staff member will allow the library to continue providing evening hours
and we had evening meeting room reservations to over 30 community groups
On Monday April 6th the Chanhassen Library will have a 4 hour reduction in public service hours closing
at 8 PM on Monday Thursday At this time we do not anticipate further hours reductions but as you
know we must be prepared for an uncertain future If you have any questions please call or e mail me
Cc Janet Kinney Chanhassen Branch Manager
Steve Taylor Administrative Services Division Director
Carver County Library Board RECEIVED
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CenterPointTM
Energy
800 LaSalle Avenue
PO Box 59038
Minneapolis MN 55459 0038
Mr Todd Gerhardt
Chanhassen City Manager
7700 Market Blvd
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
RECEIVED
JAN 2 2008
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
December 30 2008
Dear Mr Gerhardt
On November 3 2008 CenterPoint Energy filed a request with the Minnesota Public Utilities
Commission MPUC for an increase in natural gas rates of 59 8 million annually or 3 9 percent
On December 11 2008 the Commission accepted our filing as complete and approved an interim
temporary rate increase of 51 2 million annually or 3 39 percent This interim rate increase for
CenterPoint Energy customers takes effect January 2 2009 and continues until the MPUC issues a
final order and the company implements new rates in early 2010
State law requires us to distribute a Notice of Application for Rate Increase and Notice and Order
for Hearing to all counties and municipalities in our service area enclosed We will send you the
public hearing notices with details of the public hearing dates times and locations once they are
scheduled That information will also be advertised in the newspapers of record for each county
seat in our service area and in the communities where hearings are to be held
If you have questions or comments please contact me or visit our Web site at
www CenterPointEnergy com ratecase
Sincerely
David Baker
Regional Vice President
Phone 612 321 4979
Fax 612 321 4758
E mail David Baker@CenterPointEnergy com
Enclosures Notice of Application for Rate Increase
Notice and Order for Hearing
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FOR CENTERPOINT ENERGY CUSTOMERS
Notice to Counties and Municipalities
Under Minn Stat s 216B 16 Subd 1
BEFORE THE MINNESOTA PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION STATE OF MINNESOTA
In the Matter of an Application by
CenterPoint Energy for Authority to
Increase Natural Gas Rates in Minnesota
NOTICE OF APPLICATION FOR RATE
INCREASE
MPUC Docket No G 008 GR 08 1075
On November 3 2008 CenterPoint Energy Resources Corp d b a CenterPoint Energy Minnesota Gas
CenterPoint Energy filed a request with the Minnesota Public Utilities Commission Commission for a
general rate increase of 59 8 million or 3 9 percent At its meeting on December 11 2008 the
Commission accepted CenterPoint Energy s filing as complete In accordance with Minn Stat S216B 16
Subd 3 the Commission has approved a total interim increase of 51 2 million or 3 39 percent
CenterPoint Energy customers will receive a 3 39 percent increase on their bills
Below are examples of the affect of the proposed and interim increase on typical bills for CenterPoint
Energy customers Individual changes may be higher or lower depending on actual natural gas usage
Rate Type Average Average Average Average
usage in therms monthly monthly bill monthly bill monthly bill
usage in current rates interim rates proposed
therms
Residential 75 94 97 99
Commercial Industrial
up to 1 499 year 66 85 88 90
1 500 to 4 999 year 221 271 281 279
5 000 or more year 1 065 1 265 1 308 1 283
Small Volume Dual Fuel
up to 119 999 year 3 750 3 845 3 976 3 903
120 000 or more vear 16 250 16 419 16 976 16 648
Large Volume Dual Fuel 69 000 64 580 66 770 64 680
The Commission is generally allowed 10 months to issue a final decision on general rate filings however
we expect a final decision on this request in January 2010 If the final approved rates are less than the
interim rates the difference will be refunded to customers with interest
To examine the current and proposed rate schedules visit CenterPoint Energy s office at 800 LaSalle
Avenue 14th Floor Minneapolis Minn 55402 The Company s business office hours are 8 a m to 5
p m Monday through Friday The filing may also be examined at the Minnesota Department of
Commerce 85 Seventh Place East Suite 500 St Paul telephone 651 296 9314 or TTY 651 296 2860 or
at the eDockets Web site at www edockets state mn us The current and proposed rate schedules and
filing for new rates may also be examined by visiting the Company s Web site at
www CenterPointEnergy com ratecase
An administrative law judge will schedule public hearings Public notice of the hearing dates and
locations will be published in local newspapers in CenterPoint Energy s service reas
Persons who wish to intervene or testify in this case should contact the Administrative Law Judge the
Honorable Steve M Mihalchick Office of Administrative Hearings Post Office Box 64620 St Paul
MN 55164 0620
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CITY OF
CHANIlASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
MEMORANDUM
TO Mayor
City Council
FROM Greg Sticha Finance Director r
O DATE January 2 2009
SUBJECT Review of Claims Paid
The following claims are submitted for review on January 12 2009
Check Numbers Amounts
138672 138986 1 864 730 39
December Visa charges 28 087 79
Total All Claims 1 892 818 18
Attachments Check Summary
Check Detail Report
Visa Listing
Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 286
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
User danielle
Accounts Payable
Checks by Date Summary by Check Number
Printed 01 02 2009 08 30
Summary
Check Number
138672
138673
138674
138675
138676
138677
138678
138679
138680
138681
138682
138683
138684
138685
138686
138687
138688
138689
138690
138691
138692
138693
138694
138695
138696
138697
138698
138699
138700
138701
138702
138703
138704
138705
138706
138707
138708
138709
138710
13 8711
138712
138713
138714
138715
138716
138717
138718
138719
138720
138721
138722
138723
138724
138725
138726
138727
138728
138729
138730
138731
138732
138733
Vendor No Vendor Name
MartDian Diane Martinson
qualcon Quality Control Integration
ARAMAR ARAMARK
ASBENE ASSURANT EMPLOYEE BENEFITS
AthVal Athletic Values Inc
BCATRA BCA TRAINING DEVELOPMENT
BORSTA BORDER STATES ELECTRIC SUPPLY
CATPAR CATCO PARTS SERVICE
CENTEL CENTURY TEL
CHACHA CHANHASSEN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
COREXP CORPORATE EXPRESS
DAMF AR DAMON FARBER ASSOCIATES
DYNAME DYNAMEX DELIVERS NOW
engwat Engel Water Testing Inc
GOPSTA GOPHER STATE ONE CALL INC
HA WCHE HAWKINS CHEMICAL
HDsup HD Supply Waterworks LID
HonEle Honda Electric Inc
ICMART ICMA RETIREMENT AND TRUST 457
INDLAN INDOOR LANDSCAPES INC
INFRAT INFRATECH
JEFFIR JEFFERSON FIRE SAFETY INC
JOHNSJER JERRE JOHNSON
JOHSUP JOHNSTONE SUPPLY
JoneAndr Andrew Jones
jrohs J Rohs Homes Inc
LUNBRO LUNDGREN BROS CONSTRUCTION
LuxofBlo Lux of Bloomington
MACEQU MACQUEEN EQUIPMENT
MNCHIL MN CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT CTR
MNPOL MN Pollution Control Agency
MSRS MSRS
MVEC MN VALLEY ELECTRIC COOP
NA TRET Nationwide Retirement Solution
NCPERS MN NCPERS LIFE INSURANCE
NewmMich Michelle L Newman
NEXTEL NEXTEL
OEHMP AULP AUL OEHME
ondekris Kristin Ondercin
PATCO PATRICK CO
POST POSTMASTER
POST POSTMASTER
PROONE PROTECTION ONE
QUILL QUILL CORPORATION
RBMSER RBM SERVICES INC
RelOff Reliable Office Supplies
RIDYMC RIDGEDALE YMCA
RoaMac Road Machinery Supplies
rylhom Ryland Homes
SABIDEAN DEAN SABINSKE
SCHHOM SCHUTROP HOMES
TBEI TBEI LLC
TOLGAS TOLL GAS WELDING SUPPLY
Uhlcom UHL Company Inc
UNIW A Y UNITED WAY
W ASMAN WASTE MANAGEMENT SA V AGE
W A YTEK W A YTEK INC
WWGRA WW GRAINGER INC
XCEL XCEL ENERGY INC
ZACKS ZACK S INC
ZIEGLE ZIEGLER INC
AARP AARP
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12 01 2008
12 01 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 04 2008
12 11 2008
Void Amount
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0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
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0 00
0 00
0 00
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0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
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0 00
0 00
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0 00
0 00
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0 00
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0 00
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0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
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0 00
0 00
0 00
Check Amount
225 00
12 354 00
258 08
1 365 79
1 420 00
150 00
57 30
1 364 43
2 328 12
140 00
154 99
1 234 90
71 02
350 00
329 15
780 88
1 156 17
39 990 00
1 210 00
398 32
33 707 90
1 395 50
24 00
318 77
150 00
1 500 00
1 500 00
37 28
5 136 34
358 09
23 00
2 829 60
691 33
4 269 60
16 00
312 00
2 258 47
59 67
500 00
517 02
42 00
42 00
99 05
181 18
5 157 39
62 73
3 796 00
93 63
1 500 00
119 80
1 500 00
83 912 42
161 21
1 213 88
33 40
1 149 06
138 54
119 61
21 020 02
596 58
55 29
90 00
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN Accounts Payable Printed 01 02 2009 08 30
User danielle Checks by Date Summary by Check Number Summary
Check Number Vendor No Vendor Name Check Date Void Amount Check Amount
138734 AIRMAS AIR MASTERS INC 12 11 2008 0 00 10 00
138735 alpvid Alpha Video and Audio Inc 12 11 2008 0 00 323 96
138736 ANCTEC ANCOM TECHNICAL CENTER 12 11 2008 0 00 12 50
138737 andecra Craig Anderson 12 11 2008 0 00 325 00
138738 ASPEQU Aspen Equipment 12 11 2008 0 00 106 08
138739 BarEng Barr Engineering Company 12 11 2008 0 00 849 20
138740 BRAINT BRAUN INTERTEC CORPORATION 12 11 2008 0 00 698 00
138741 BROTIR BROWN S TIRE AUTO 12 11 2008 0 00 24 00
138742 CAMKNU CAMPBELL KNUTSON 12 11 2008 0 00 13 316 85
138743 carcou Carver County 12 11 2008 0 00 45 25
138744 CENENE CENTERPOINT ENERGY MlNNEGASCO 12 11 2008 0 00 5 030 96
138745 CHACHA CHANHASSEN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE 12 11 2008 0 00 100 00
138746 CHA VET CHANHASSEN VETERINARY 12 11 2008 0 00 946 30
138747 COLINF COLE INFORMATION SERVICES 12 11 2008 0 00 358 95
138748 CUBFOO CUB FOODS 12 11 2008 0 00 180 11
138749 DANKA DANKA OFFICE IMAGING COMPANY 12 11 2008 0 00 879 13
138750 DEBNRANDRANDY DEBNER 12 11 2008 0 00 120 00
138751 DeepRock Deep Rock Water Company 12 11 2008 0 00 106 27
138752 ELEINS ELECTRICAL INSTALL MAINT INC 12 11 2008 0 00 208 38
138753 EMEAPP EMERGENCY APPARATUS MAINT INC 12 11 2008 0 00 1 611 69
138754 GAGNNANCNANCY GAGNER 12 11 2008 0 00 202 00
138755 GERHTODDTODD GERHARDT 12 11 2008 0 00 425 00
138756 gopsig GOPHER SIGN COMPANY 12 11 2008 0 00 638 81
138757 HANTHO HANSEN THORP PELLINEN OLSON 12 11 2008 0 00 24 00
138758 hawche HAWKINS CHEMICAL 12 11 2008 0 00 40 00
138759 hdsup HD Supply Waterworks LID 12 11 2008 0 00 354 39
138760 ICC INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL 12 11 2008 0 00 50 00
138761 ICC INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL 12 11 2008 0 00 250 00
138762 jrohs J Rohs Homes Inc 12 11 2008 0 00 338 00
138763 LHBInc LHB Inc 12 11 2008 0 00 4 421 23
138764 LITTMARK MARK LITTFIN 12 11 2008 0 00 24 54
138765 MERACE MERLINS ACE HARDWARE 12 11 2008 0 00 583 45
138766 metco Metropolitan Council Env Svcs 12 11 2008 0 00 9 855 00
138767 METC02 METROPOLITAN COUNCIL 12 11 2008 0 00 108 880 32
138768 metroc METROCALL 12 11 2008 0 00 23 56
138769 MINGER MINGER CONSTRUCTION 12 11 2008 0 00 25 132 00
138770 mnlabo MN DEPT OF LABOR AND INDUSTRY 12 11 2008 0 00 2 747 67
138771 mnlabo MN DEPT OF LABOR AND INDUSTRY 12 11 2008 0 00 50 00
138772 MunEme Municipal Emergency Services 12 11 2008 0 00 531 99
138773 mvec MN V ALLEY ELECTRIC COOP 12 11 2008 0 00 4 291 43
138774 OffSec Office of the Secretary ofSta VOID 12 11 2008 100 00 0 00 138775 OLSCON OLSON CONSTRUCTION EXCAVATION 12 11 2008 0 00 13 835 68
138776 ONVOY ONVOY 12 11 2008 0 00 351 85
138777 OREAUT O REILLY AUTOMOTIVE INC 12 11 2008 0 00 518 93 138778 parcon PARROTT CONTRACTING INC 12 11 2008 0 00 79 823 35
138779 perplu Perfect Plumbing Inc 12 11 2008 0 00 284 00 138780 POWCHA POWER SYSTEMS 12 11 2008 0 00 988 32
138781 QLTCLS QLT CLS Consumer Lease Ser 12 11 2008 0 00 14 22 138782 QWEST QWEST 12 11 2008 0 00 68 58
138783 RICOH RICOH 12 11 2008 0 00 399 08 138784 SHAKOP CITY OF SHAKOPEE 12 11 2008 0 00 208 34
138785 shepclyd Clyde Shephens 12 11 2008 0 00 100 00 138786 SHOTRU SHOREWOOD TRUE VALUE 12 11 2008 0 00 29 56
138787 sousub SOUTHWEST SUBURBAN PUBLISHING 12 11 2008 0 00 1 347 51
138788 Spring Springbrook 12 11 2008 0 00 29 637 54 138789 STREIC STREICHER S 12 11 2008 0 00 972 99
138790 supwir Superior Wireless Communicatio 12 11 2008 0 00 203 26
138791 TECGRA TECHNAGRAPHICS 12 11 2008 0 00 13 7 Q3
138792 TOLGAS TOLL GAS WELDING SUPPLY 12 11 2008 0 00 114 96
138793 valfen V ALLEY FENCE INC 12 11 2008 0 00 1 250 00
138794 vikele VIKING ELECTRIC SUPPLY 12 11 2008 0 00 3 96
138795 WeCat We Cater to You 12 11 2008 0 00 1 189 55
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User danielle Checks by Date Summary by Check Number Summary
Check Number Vendor No Vendor Name Check Date Void Amount Check Amount
138796 WlNCOM WlNGFOOT COMMERCIAL TIRE VOID 12 11 2008 1 758 97 0 00
138797 WlNGRICH RICHARD WING 12 11 2008 0 00 60 00
138798 wmmue WM MUELLER SONS INC 12 11 2008 0 00 759 29
138799 zoerpegg PEGGIE ZOERHOF 12 11 2008 0 00 1 528 80
138800 ACOUST ACOUSTICS ASSOCIATES INC 12 18 2008 0 00 95 42
138801 ACTMIN ACTA MINNESOTA JEFF ENGEL 12 18 2008 0 00 2 450 00
138802 ARMSEC ARMOR SECURITY INC 12 18 2008 0 00 10 00
138803 ASPEQU Aspen Equipment 12 18 2008 0 00 666 99
138804 BCATRA BCA TRAINING DEVELOPMENT 12 18 2008 0 00 30 00
138805 BORSTA BORDER STATES ELECTRIC SUPPLY 12 18 2008 0 00 427 28
138806 BRAINT BRAUN INTERTEC CORPORATION 12 18 2008 0 00 902 25
138807 carcou Carver County 12 18 2008 0 00 1 740 00
138808 carcou Carver County 12 18 2008 0 00 100 00
138809 CARSWC CARVER SWCD 12 18 2008 0 00 1 045 00
138810 CENENE CENTERPOINT ENERGY MINNEGASCO 12 18 2008 0 00 530 85
138811 censer Centex Service Company LLC 12 18 2008 0 00 250 00
138812 CHASCH CHASKA AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERC 12 18 2008 0 00 210 00
138813 Choice Choice Inc 12 18 2008 0 00 206 39
138814 CHRINC CHRISTIANS INC 12 18 2008 0 00 1 500 00
138815 CITEDE CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE 12 18 2008 0 00 606 95
138816 COREXP CORPORATE EXPRESS 12 18 2008 0 00 83 52
138817 CUTABO CUT ABOVE WOOD CO INC 12 18 2008 0 00 745 50
138818 DAHL TERR TERRY DAHL 12 18 2008 0 00 815 80
138819 De1Den Delta Dental 12 18 2008 0 00 1 731 45
138820 DiedJose Joseph Gail Diedrick 12 18 2008 0 00 100 00
138821 EHLERS EHLERS ASSOCIATES INC 12 18 2008 0 00 2 543 75
138822 engwat Engel Water Testing Inc 12 18 2008 0 00 945 00
138823 HANTHO HANSEN THORP PELLINEN OLSON 12 18 2008 0 00 237 50
138824 HDsup HD Supply Waterworks LID 12 18 2008 0 00 327 19
138825 HENTRE HENNEPIN COUNTY TREASURER 12 18 2008 0 00 26 14
138826 HOFFMATT MATT HOFFMAN 12 18 2008 0 00 100 00
138827 ICMART ICMA RETIREMENT AND TRUST 457 12 18 2008 0 00 1 335 00
138828 JOHSUP JOHNSTONE SUPPLY 12 18 2008 0 00 339 27
138829 KILELE KILLMER ELECTRIC CO INC 12 18 2008 0 00 297 50
138830 LUNBRO LUNDGREN BROS CONSTRUCTION 12 18 2008 0 00 4 500 00
138831 MalTru Malecha Trucking Inc 12 18 2008 0 00 66 308 00
138832 MillBeth Bethany Miller 12 18 2008 0 00 81 90
138833 MNCHIL MN CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT CTR 12 18 2008 0 00 358 09
138834 MOTORO MOTOROLA 12 18 2008 0 00 6 811 10
138835 MSRS MSRS 12 18 2008 0 00 2 820 70
138836 MVEC MN V ALLEY ELECTRIC COOP 12 18 2008 0 00 280 24
138837 MXLog MX Logic 12 18 2008 0 00 97 00
138838 NATRET Nationwide Retirement Solution 12 18 2008 0 00 3 994 60
138839 OerArc Oertel Architects 12 18 2008 0 00 13 975 00
138840 PARCON PARROTT CONTRACTING INC 12 18 2008 0 00 10 592 00
138841 POWCHA POWER SYSTEMS 12 18 2008 0 00 197 66
138842 PRIERHON RHONDA PRIEM 12 18 2008 0 00 4 00
138843 Rel0ff Reliable Office Supplies 12 18 2008 0 00 182 09
138844 RIDMED RIDGEVIEW MEDICAL CENTER 12 18 2008 0 00 238 25
138845 SMHEN SM HENTGES SONS 12 18 2008 0 00 258 429 70
138846 SPSCOM SPS COMPANIES INC 12 18 2008 0 00 19 43
138847 STREIC STREICHER S 12 18 2008 0 00 246 98
138848 UB 00168 RELS Title 12 18 2008 0 00 57 80
138849 UB 00169 CITY OF CHANHASSEN 12 18 2008 0 00 4 398 20
138850 UB 00170 ROBERT MOORE 12 18 2008 0 00 312 38
138851 UB 00171 JENNIFER BIL YOU 12 18 2008 0 00 300 04
138852 UB OOI72 Anchor Title Services 12 18 2008 0 00 426 52
138853 UB 00173 First American Title 12 18 2008 0 00 200 87
138854 UNIREN UNITED RENTALS HIGHWAYS TECH 12 18 2008 0 00 287 55
138855 UNIW A Y UNITED WAY 12 18 2008 0 00 33 40
138856 VIKELE VIKING ELECTRIC SUPPLY 12 18 2008 0 00 54 87
138857 V olkMerD Merle D V olk 12 18 2008 0 00 17 571 60
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User danieIle Checks by Date Summary by Check Number Summary
Check Number Vendor No Vendor Name Check Date Void Amount Check Amount
138858 3DSPE 3D SPECIALTIES 12 24 2008 0 00 595 49
138859 ABLHOS ABLE HOSE RUBBER INC 12 24 2008 0 00 679 63
138860 ANCTEC ANCOM TECHNICAL CENTER 12 24 2008 0 00 1 054 98
138861 ASPMIL ASPEN MILLS 12 24 2008 0 00 10 00
138862 AUTUNL AUTOMOTIVE UNLIMITED 12 24 2008 0 00 275 43
138863 BCATRA BCA TRAINING DEVELOPMENT 12 24 2008 0 00 15 00
138864 BENEXT BENEFIT EXTRAS INC 12 24 2008 0 00 105 00
138865 BENPRO BENIEK PROPERTY SERVICES INC 12 24 2008 0 00 1 038 00
138866 caraut CARCO AUTO PARTS INC 12 24 2008 0 00 0 96
138867 carcou Carver County 12 24 2008 0 00 30 00
138868 CARGIL CARGILL INCORPORATED 12 24 2008 0 00 12 455 10
138869 CARSWC CARVER SWCD 12 24 2008 0 00 400 00
138870 COMINT COMPUTER INTEGRATION TECHN 12 24 2008 0 00 4 000 00
138871 DELTOO DELEGARD TOOL COMPANY 12 24 2008 0 00 179 53
138872 DiedJose Joseph Gail Diedrick 12 24 2008 0 00 5 00
138873 EKHOPAULPAULEKHOLM 12 24 2008 0 00 70 20
138874 F ACMOT FACTORY MOTOR PARTS COMPANY 12 24 2008 0 00 415 22
138875 FlREQU FIRE EQUIPMENT SPECIALITIES 12 24 2008 0 00 990 95
138876 hach Hach Company 12 24 2008 0 00 133 63
138877 HDsup HD Supply Waterworks LID 12 24 2008 0 00 4 888 35
138878 INDSCH INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DIST 112 12 24 2008 0 00 8 839 74
138879 INFRA T INFRATECH 12 24 2008 0 00 113 93
138880 INIDET INTERSTATE POWERSYSTEMS 12 24 2008 0 00 144 30
138881 LENDANN ANN LENDINO 12 24 2008 0 00 80 00
138882 LietMars Marsha Lietz 12 24 2008 0 00 225 00
138883 LINDERIK ERIK LINDEMEIER 12 24 2008 0 00 1 327 50
138884 MINGER MINGER CONSTRUCTION 12 24 2008 0 00 366 18
138885 MNAGR MINNESOTA DEPTN OF AGRICULTURE 12 24 2008 0 00 40 00
138886 MNLIFE MINNESOTA LIFE 12 24 2008 0 00 1 521 63
138887 MOTIND MOTION INDUSTRIES INC 12 24 2008 0 00 293 33
138888 OLSCON OLSON CONSTRUCTION EXCAVATION 12 24 2008 0 00 10 381 65
138889 PARCON PARROTT CONTRACTING INC 12 24 2008 0 00 2 048 00
138890 parplu Parts Plus 12 24 2008 0 00 18 73
138891 PeaHea Peak Heating and Cooling 12 24 2008 0 00 30 45
138892 PlutBrad Brad Pluth 12 24 2008 0 00 150 00
138893 POMTIR POMP S TIRE SERVICE INC 12 24 2008 0 00 506 64
138894 POST POSTMASTER 12 24 2008 0 00 931 42
138895 PROSTA PRO STAFF 12 24 2008 0 00 109 95
138896 RIDYMC RIDGEDALE YMCA 12 24 2008 0 00 1 970 80
138897 RobBealn Robert Bealke Industries 12 24 2008 0 00 200 00
138898 sarljodi Jodi Sarles 12 24 2008 0 00 133 48
138899 Schmigre Greg Schmieg 12 24 2008 0 00 72 95
138900 SENSYS SENTRY SYSTEMS INC 12 24 2008 0 00 308 62
138901 SIGNSO SIGNSOURCE 12 24 2008 0 00 1 100 15
138902 SOFHOU SOFTWARE HOUSE INTERNATIONAL 12 24 2008 0 00 3 034 19
138903 STPSTA ST PAUL STAMP WORKS 12 24 2008 0 00 49 42
138904 STREIC STREICHER S 12 24 2008 0 00 59 99
138905 SUBCHE SUBURBAN CHEVROLET 12 24 2008 0 00 115 12
138906 TARGET TARGET 12 24 2008 0 00 9 59
138907 UB 00174 RONALD SAATZER 12 24 2008 0 00 5 05
138908 UB 00175 WARNER BUILDING CORP 12 24 2008 0 00 6 40
138909 UNlREN UNITED RENTALS HIGHWAYS TECH 12 24 2008 0 00 287 55
138910 WACFAR W ACONIA FARM SUPPLY 12 24 2008 0 00 111 52
13 8911 watcon Water Conservation Services I 12 24 2008 0 00 243 50
138912 WWGRA WW GRAINGER INC 12 24 2008 0 00 380 31
138913 XCEL XCEL ENERGY INC 12 24 2008 0 00 13 743 15
138914 MSRS MSRS 12 24 2008 0 00 22 406 78
138915 AFLAC American Family Life Assurance 12 31 2008 0 00 187 90
138916 AMCON AMCON 12 31 2008 0 00 4 000 00
138917 aqutec Aquatech 12 31 2008 0 00 250 00
138918 AUTUNL AUTOMOTIVE UNLIMITED 12 31 2008 0 00 113 14
138919 BarEng Barr Engineering Company 12 31 2008 0 00 727 50
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Check Number Vendor No Vendor Name Check Date Void Amount Check Amount
138920 BORSTA BORDER STATES ELECTRIC SUPPLY 12 31 2008 0 00 119 62
138921 BROTRA BROWN TRAFFIC PRODUCTS 12 31 2008 0 00 690 12
138922 BRYROC BRYAN ROCK PRODUCTS INC 12 31 2008 0 00 1 867 81
138923 carcou Carver County 12 31 2008 0 00 712 652 74
138924 CARGIL CARGILL INCORPORATED 12 31 2008 0 00 6 629 63
138925 CENTEL CENTURY TEL 12 31 2008 0 00 2 315 82
138926 COREXP CORPORATE EXPRESS 12 31 2008 0 00 23 62
138927 DAMF AR DAMON FARBER ASSOCIATES 12 31 2008 0 00 190 00
138928 dietanth Anthony Diethelm 12 31 2008 0 00 250 00
138929 exccon Excelsior Construction 12 31 2008 0 00 500 00
138930 fosswi Foss Swim School 12 31 2008 0 00 1 000 00
138931 gardanco Gary Danielson Construction In 12 31 2008 0 00 250 00
138932 GSDIR GS DIRECT INC 12 31 2008 0 00 88 33
138933 GYMWOR GYM WORKS INC 12 31 2008 0 00 680 23
138934 H LMES H L MESABI 12 31 2008 0 00 4 136 46
138935 HENTRE HENNEPIN COUNTY TREASURER 12 31 2008 0 00 3 76
138936 ICMART ICMA RETIREMENT AND TRUST 457 12 31 2008 0 00 1 335 00
138937 IGELDA VI DAVID IGEL 12 31 2008 0 00 500 00
138938 JOHSUP JOHNSTONE SUPPLY 12 31 2008 0 00 128 59
138939 KATFUE KATH FUEL OIL SERVICE 12 31 2008 0 00 6 759 92
138940 KawMoo Kawell Mooney Sawyer 12 31 2008 0 00 500 00
138941 kircbob Bob Kircher 12 31 2008 0 00 100 00
138942 1encon Lenzen Construction 12 31 2008 0 00 500 00
138943 MetLea Metro Leak Detection Inc 12 31 2008 0 00 4 800 00
138944 MNCHIL MN CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT CTR 12 31 2008 0 00 358 09
138945 MNHEAL MN DEPT OF HEALTH 12 31 2008 0 00 23 00
138946 MOOMED MOORE MEDICAL 12 31 2008 0 00 299 82
138947 MSRS MSRS 12 31 2008 0 00 2 958 01
138948 MTIDIS MTI DISTRIBUTING INC 12 31 2008 0 00 2 536 27
138949 MVEC MN V ALLEY ELECTRIC COOP 12 31 2008 0 00 699 82
138950 NAPA NAP A AUTO TRUCK PARTS 12 31 2008 0 00 225 26
138951 NATRET Nationwide Retirement Solution 12 31 2008 0 00 3 994 60
138952 NCPERS MN NCPERS LIFE INSURANCE 12 31 2008 0 00 16 00
138953 NEWCOU NEW COUNTRY REMODELING 12 31 2008 0 00 250 00
138954 NEXTEL NEXTEL 12 31 2008 0 00 2 535 93
138955 norbui Norway Builders 12 31 2008 0 00 250 00
138956 OAKBUI OAKRIDGE BUILDERS 12 31 2008 0 00 500 00
138957 RhiMar Rhino Marking Protection Sys 12 31 2008 0 00 223 34
138958 RICERICH RICHARD RICE 12 31 2008 0 00 20 00
138959 robflyco Rob t Flynn Construction 12 31 2008 0 00 250 00
138960 ro1pro Rolyn Properties 12 31 2008 0 00 500 00
138961 ROTCOM THE ROTTLUND COMPANY INe 12 31 2008 0 00 5 750 00
138962 ROWEKA ROWEKAMP ASSOCIATES INC 12 31 2008 0 00 4 000 00
138963 RYBAIGOR IGOR RYBAKOV 12 31 2008 0 00 1 291 50
138964 sawdes Sawhorse Design 12 31 2008 0 00 500 00
138965 schwmich Michael Kathy Schwartz 12 31 2008 0 00 250 00
13 8966 sharkevi Kevin Sharkey 12 31 2008 0 00 250 00
138967 SPRPCS SPRINT PCS 12 31 2008 0 00 131 81
138968 STREIC STREICHER S 12 31 2008 0 00 31 94
138969 UB 00176 PLOWSHARES DEVELOPMENT LLC 12 31 2008 0 00 8 11
138970 UB OOl77 LECY BROTHERS CONSTRUCTION INC 12 31 2008 0 00 6 76
138971 UB 00178 CHARLES ROSENBERGER III 12 31 2008 0 00 30 34
138972 UB 00179 MIKE CHERIE WlTYNSKI 12 31 2008 0 00 257 74
138973 UB 00180 CYNTHIA PETERSON 12 31 2008 0 00 8 11
138974 UB 00181 First Financial Title Agency 12 31 2008 0 00 70 12
138975 UB 00182 Edina Realty Title 12 31 2008 0 00 132 37
138976 UNIW A Y UNITED WAY 12 31 2008 0 00 55 65
138977 W ACDOD W ACONIA DODGE 12 31 2008 0 00 175 47
138978 WalChr Walser Chrysler Jeep 12 31 2008 0 00 38 33
138979 watco2 Waterous Arizona Operations 12 31 2008 0 00 136 28
138980 W ATCOM WATEROUS COMPANY 12 31 2008 0 00 792 00
138981 watekeit Keith Waters 12 31 2008 0 00 500 00
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138982
138983
138984
138985
138986
Vendor No
WESDEV
WINCOM
wisetim
WWGRA
XCEL
Accounts Payable
Checks by Date Summary by Check Number
Vendor Name
WESTAR DEVELOPMENT INC
WINGFOOT COMMERCIAL TIRE
Tim Wise
WW GRAINGER INC
XCEL ENERGY INC
Check Date
12 31 2008
12 31 2008
12 31 2008
12 31 2008
12 31 2008
Report Total
Printed 01 02 2009 08 30
Summary
Void Amount
0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
1 858 97
Check Amount
1 500 00
1 755 60
250 00
32 87
7 977 52
1 864 730 39
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Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
3D SPECIAL TIES
3DSPE 3D SPECIALTIES
Ck 138858 12 24 08
Inv 428918
Line Item Date
12 1 0 08
12 10 08
Inv 428918 Total
Line Item Description
Vests
Signs
Line Item Account
101 1320 4240
10 1 1320 4560
100 43
495 06
595 49
Ck 138858 Total 595 49
3DSPE 3D SPECIAL TIES 595 49
3D SPECIALTIES 595 49
AARP
AARP AARP
Ck 138733
Inv 120308
Line Item Date
12 03 08
Inv 120308 Total
12 11 08
Line Item Description
Defensive Driving
Line Item Account
101 1560 4300 90 00
90 00
Ck 138733 Total 90 00
AARP AARP 90 00
AARP 90 00
ABLE HOSE RUBBER INC
ABLHOS ABLE HOSE RUBBER INC
Ck 138859 12 24 08
Inv 1809403
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 09 08 Part D Alum Part DC Alum PT Only
Inv 1809403 Totw
Line Item Account
701 0000 4530 679 63
679 63
Ck 138859 Total 679 63
ABLHOS ABLE HOSE RUBBER INC 679 63
ABLE HOSE RUBBER INC 679 63
ACOUSTICS ASSOCIATES INC
ACOUST ACOUSTICS ASSOCIATES INC
Ck 138800 12 18 08
Inv 823205
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 08 08 Glacier Parchment
Inv 823205 Total
Line Item Account
10 1 1220 4510 95 42
95 42
Ck 138800 Total 95 42
ACOUST ACOUSTICS ASSOCIATES INC 95 42
ACOUSTICS ASSOCIATES INC 95 42
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Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
ACTA MINNESOTA JEFF ENGEL
ACTMIN ACTA MINNESOTA JEFF ENGEL
Ck 138801 12 18 08
Iny 120508
Line Item Date
12 05 08
Iny 120508 Total
Line Item Description
American Chung do Kwan Tae Kwon Do
Line Item Account
101 1538 4300 2 450 00
2 450 00
Ck 138801 Total 2 450 00
ACTMIN ACTA MINNESOTA JEFF ENGEL 2 450 00
ACTA MINNESOTA JEFF ENGEL 2 450 00
AIR MASTERS INC
AIRMAS AIR MASTERS INC
Ck 138734 12 11 08
Iny 120408
Line Item Date
12 04 08
Iny 120408 Total
Line Item Description
Refund for oyerpymt on permit 2008 02782
Line Item Account
101 1250 4901 10 00
10 00
Ck 138734 Total 10 00
AIRMAS AIR MASTERS INC 10 00
AIR MASTERS INC 10 00
Alpha Video and Audio Ine
alpvid Alpha Video and Audio Ine
Ck 138735 12 11 08
Iny SVCINV09449
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 18 08 Labor on zoom function
Inv SVCINV09449 Total
Line Item Account
210 0000 4300 323 96
323 96
Ck 138735 Total 323 96
alpvid Alpha Video and Audio Ine 323 96
Alpha Video and Audio Ine 323 96
AMCON
AMCON AMCON
Ck 138916 12 31 08
Iny 123008
Line Item Date
12 30 08
12 30 08
Iny 123008 Total
Line Item Description
Erosion Escrow 420 Pond Promenade
Erosion Escrow 455 Pond Promenade
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
1 500 00
2 500 00
4 000 00
Ck 138916 Total 4 000 00
AMCON AMCON 4 000 00
AMCON 4 000 00
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American Family Life Assurance
AFLAC American Family Life Assurance
Ck 138915 12 31 08
InY 250885
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 27 08 Dec 2008
12 27 08 Dec 2008
12 27 08 Dec 2008
12 27 08 Dec 2008
Iny 250885 Total
Ck 138915 Total
AFLAC
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
Line Item Account
700 0000 2008
701 0000 2008
210 0000 2008
10 1 0000 2008
6 71
6 71
15 75
158 73
187 90
187 90
American Family Life Assurance
American Family Life Assurance
187 90
Anchor Title Services
UB 00172 Anchor Title Services
Ck 138852 12 18 08
Iny
Line Item Date
12 16 08
12 16 08
12 16 08
12 16 08
Iny Total
Ck 138852 Total
UB 00172
Anchor Title Services
Line Item Description
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
Anchor Title Services
ANCOM TECHNICAL CENTER
ANCTEC ANCOM TECHNICAL CENTER
Ck 138736 12 11 08
Iny 6685
Line Item Date
12 02 08
Iny 6685 Total
Ck 138736 Total
Ck 138860
Iny 6774
Line Item Date
12 09 08
Iny 6774 Total
Ck 138860 Total
ANCTEC
Line Item Description
Service replay doesn t work
12 24 08
Line Item Description
Charger ear jack remote spkr mic
187 90
Line Item Account
700 0000 2020
720 0000 2020
700 0000 2020
701 0000 2020
15 67
63 47
119 07
228 31
426 52
426 52
426 52
426 52
Line Item Account
10 1 1220 4531 12 50
12 50
12 50
Line Item Account
10 1 1220 4531 1 054 98
1 054 98
1 054 98
ANCOM TECHNICAL CENTER
ANCOM TECHNICAL CENTER 1 067 48
1 067 48
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Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
Anderson Craig
andecra Anderson Craig
Ck 138737 12 11 08
Iny 120108
Line Item Date
12 01 08
Iny 120108 Total
Line Item Description
Hopke Sewer Drain replace out spicket
Line Item Account
601 6018 4300 325 00
325 00
Ck 138737 Total 325 00
andecra Anderson Craig 325 00
Anderson Craig 325 00
Aquatech
aqutec Aquatech
Ck 138917 12 31 08
Iny 123008
Line Item Date
12 30 08
Iny 123008 Total
Line Item Description
Erosion Escrow 520 Pineyiew Court
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 250 00
250 00
Ck 138917 Total 250 00
aqutec Aquatech 250 00
Aquatech 250 00
ARAMARK
ARAMAR ARAMARK Account
Ck 138674 12 04 08
Iny 613628
Line Item Date
11 26 08
InY 613628 Total
101 1170 4110
Line Item Description
Coffee sugar creamer
Line Item Account
101 1170 4110 258 08
258 08
Ck 138674 Total 258 08
ARAMAR ARAMARK 258 08
ARAMARK 258 08
ARMOR SECURITY INC
ARMSEC ARMOR SECURITY INC
Ck 138802 12 18 08
Iny 130561
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 08 08
Iny 130561 Total
Line Item Account
10 1 1170 4300 10 00
10 00
Ck 138802 Total 10 00
ARMSEC ARMOR SECURITY INC 10 00
ARMOR SECURITY INC 10 00
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Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
Aspen Equipment
ASPEQU Aspen Equipment
Ck 138738 12 11 08
Inv 10047363
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 24 08 Vehicle battery plow battery
Inv 10047363 Total
Ck 138738 Total
Line Item Account
101 1550 4140 106 08
106 08
106 08
Ck 138803 12 18 08
Inv 10047922
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 04 08 RAM Assembly
Inv 10047922 Total
Ck 138803 Total
ASPEQU
Aspen Equipment
Line Item Account
101 1550 4140 666 99
666 99
666 99
Aspen Equipment 773 07
773 07
ASPEN MILLS
ASPMIL ASPEN MILLS
Ck 138861 12 24 08
Inv 86086
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 15 08 Black laces
Inv 86086 Total
ASSURANT EMPLOYEE BENEFITS
ASBENE ASSURANT EMPLOYEE BENEFITS
Ck 138675 12 04 08
Inv 120108
Line Item Date
12 01 08
12 01 08
12 01 08
12 01 08
12 01 08
12 01 08
12 01 08
12 01 08
12 01 08
12 01 08
12 01 08
12 01 08
12 01 08
12 01 08
12 01 08
12 01 08
12 01 08
12 01 08
Ck 138861 Total
ASPMIL
ASPEN MILLS
Line Item Account
101 1220 4240 10 00
10 00
10 00
ASPEN MILLS 10 00
10 00
Line Item Description
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Line Item Account
101 1430 4040
720 7201 4040
720 7202 4040
101 1700 4040
101 1170 4040
101 1530 4040
10 1 1210 4040
210 0000 4040
101 1600 4040
101 1520 4040
720 0000 4040
101 1370 4040
10 1 1220 4040
10 1 1160 4040
101 1130 4040
701 0000 4040
101 1120 4040
10 1 1420 4040
5 50
7 18
7 18
7 23
16 99
17 77
20 59
22 45
28 92
30 75
39 61
44 31
44 37
44 38
56 67
82 77
90 90
96 45
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Check Detail Report Detail
Printed Oll02 09 08 32
12 0 lI08
12 01108
I 210 lI08
12 01108
12 0 lI08
Iny 120108 Total
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
Long term disability insurance Dec
700 0000 4040
101 1310 4040
101 1550 4040
10 1 1250 4040
101 1320 4040
Amount
100 54
120 39
148 04
164 58
168 22
1 365 79
Ck 138675 Total 1 365 79
ASBENE ASSURANT EMPLOYEE BENEFITS 1 365 79
ASSURANT EMPLOYEE BENEFITS 1 365 79
Athletic Values Inc
AthVal Athletic Values Inc
Ck 138676 12 04 08
Iny 022007
Line Item Date
02 20 07
Iny 022007 Total
Line Item Description
Basketball backboard basketball tune up
Line Item Account
101 1530 4120 1 420 00
1 420 00
Ck 138676 Total 1 420 00
AthVal Athletic Values Inc 1 420 00
Athletic Values Inc 1 420 00
AUTOMOTIVE UNLIMITED
AUTUNL AUTOMOTIVE UNLIMITED
Ck 138862 12 24 08
InY 61493
Line Item Date
12 19108
InY 61493 Total
Line Item Description
2001 Ford Ranger repair labor parts
Line Item Account
101 1250 4520 275 43
275 43
Ck 138862 Total 275 43
Ck 138918
InY 61527
Line Item Date
12 30108
InY 61527 Total
12 31108
Line Item Description
05 Dodge Dakota front wheel alignment
Line Item Account
101 1250 4140 113 14
113 14
Ck 138918 Total 113 14
AUTUNL AUTOMOTIVE UNLIMITED 388 57
AUTOMOTIVE UNLIMITED 388 57
Barr Engineering Company
BarEng Barr Engineering Company
Ck 138739 12 IlI08
InY 23100107013
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 21108 Chan City Hall Standby Power
InY 23100107013 Total
Line Item Account
400 0000 4705 849 20
849 20
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Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Ck 138739 Total
Amount
849 20
Ck 138919 12 31 08
Inv 23100107014
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 22 08 Chan City Hall Standby Power
Inv 23100107014 Total
Line Item Account
400 0000 4705 727 50
727 50
Ck 138919 Total 727 50
BarEng Barr Engineering Company 1 576 70
Barr Engineering Company 1 576 70
BCA TRAINING DEVELOPMENT
BCATRA BCA TRAINING DEVELOPMENT
Ck 138677 12 04 08
Inv 120408
Line Item Date
12 04 08
Inv 120408 Total
Line Item Description
Criminal Background Investigation Qty 10
Line Item Account
101 1120 4300 150 00
150 00
Ck 138677 Total 150 00
Ck 138804
Inv 4177
Line Item Date
11 14 08
Inv 4177 Total
12 18 08
Line Item Description
Internet Safety Training B Hoiseth
Line Item Account
101 1260 4370 30 00
30 00
Ck 138804 Total 30 00
Ck 138863
Inv 122308
Line Item Date
12 23 08
Inv 122308 Total
12 24 08
Line Item Description
Criminal background investigation Qty 1
Line Item Account
101 1120 4300 15 00
15 00
Ck 138863 Total 15 00
BCATRA BCA TRAINING DEVELOPMENT 195 00
BCA TRAINING DEVELOPMENT 195 00
BENEFIT EXTRAS INC
BENEXT BENEFIT EXTRAS INC
Ck 138864 12 24 08
Inv 28856
Line Item Date
12 17 08
Inv 28856 Total
Line Item Description
Monthly COBRA participant admin fees
Line Item Account
101 0000 2012 105 00
105 00
Ck 138864 Total 105 00
BENEXT BENEFIT EXTRAS INC 105 00
BENEFIT EXTRAS INC 105 00
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Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
BENIEK PROPERTY SERVICES INC
BENPRO BENIEK PROPERTY SERVICES INC
Ck 138865 12 24 08
InY 133155
Line Item Date
12 15 08
Iny 133155 Total
Line Item Description
Chan Med Arts Axels lot snowplowing
Line Item Account
101 1550 4300 1 038 00
1 038 00
Ck 138865 Total 1 038 00
BENPRO BENIEK PROPERTY SERVICES INC 1 038 00
BENIEK PROPERTY SERVICES INC 1 038 00
BIL YOU JENNIFER
UB OOl71 BIL YOU JENNIFER
Ck 138851 12 18 08
Iny
Line Item Date
12 16 08
12 16 08
12 16 08
12 16 08
Iny Total
Line Item Description
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
Line Item Account
700 0000 2020
720 0000 2020
701 0000 2020
700 0000 2020
1 70
6 88
68 18
223 28
300 04
Ck 138851 Total 300 04
UB OOI71 BIL YOU JENNIFER 300 04
BIL YOU JENNIFER 300 04
BORDER STATES ELECTRIC SUPPLY
BORSTA BORDER STATES ELECTRIC SUPPLY
Ck 138678 12 04 08
InY 98728100
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 25 08 misc supplies
InY 98728100 Totw
Line Item Account
101 1170 4510 57 30
57 30
Ck 138678 Total 57 30
Ck 138805 12 18 08
InY 98781648
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 09 08 HPS Lamp
Iny 98781648 Total
Line Item Account
101 1320 4120 427 28
427 28
Ck 138805 Total 427 28
Ck 138920 12 31 08
Iny 98784835
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 10 08 Misc parts supplies
InY 98784835 Totw
Line Item Account
101 1220 4510 62 32
62 32
InY 98826873
Line Item Date
12 19 08
Line Item Description
Misc parts supplies
Line Item Account
101 1190 4510 57 30
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Iny 98826873 Total
Ck 138920 Total
BORSTA
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
57 30
119 62
BORDER STATES ELECTRIC SUPPLY 604 20
BORDER STATES ELECTRIC SUPPLY 604 20
BRAUN INTERTEC CORPORATION
BRAINT BRAUN INTERTEC CORPORATION
Ck 138740 12111 08
InY 302741
Line Item Date
12 05 08
InY 302741 Total
Ck 138740 Total
Ck 138806
Iny 302485
Line Item Date
12 04 08
Iny 302485 Total
Ck 138806 Total
BRAINT
Line Item Description
Generator pad City Hall
Line Item Account
400 0000 4705 698 00
698 00
698 00
12118 08
Line Item Description
Lyman Blyd Utilities compaction testing
Line Item Account
603 6301 4300 902 25
902 25
902 25
BRAUN INTERTEC CORPORATION 1 600 25
BRAUN INTERTEC CORPORATION 1 600 25
BROWN TRAFFIC PRODUCTS
BROTRA BROWN TRAFFIC PRODUCTS
Ck 138921 12 31 08
Iny 13131
Line Item Date
12 15 08
Iny 13131 Total
Ck 138921 Total
BROTRA
Line Item Description
yellow arrow led
Line Item Account
101 1320 4120 690 12
690 12
690 12
BROWN TRAFFIC PRODUCTS 690 12
BROWN TRAFFIC PRODUCTS 690 12
BROWN S TIRE AUTO
BROTIR BROWN S TIRE AUTO
Ck 138741 12111 08
Iny 111408
Line Item Date
11 14 08
11 14 08
Iny 111408 Total
Line Item Description
Car Wash 604
Car Wash
Line Item Account
10 1 1250 4520
101 1250 4520
8 00
8 00
16 00
Iny 111708
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 17 08 Premium Car Wash 610
Iny 111708 Total
Line Item Account
101 1250 4520 8 00
8 00
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Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Ck 138741 Total
Amount
24 00
BROTIR BROWN S TIRE AUTO 24 00
BROWN S TIRE AUTO 24 00
BRYAN ROCK PRODUCTS INC
BRYROC BRYAN ROCK PRODUCTS INC
Ck 138922 12 31 08
Iny 121508
Line Item Date
12 15 08
Iny 121508 Total
Line Item Description
I 3 4 screened CL 2 RIP RAP
Line Item Account
701 0000 4553 1 867 81
1 867 81
Ck 138922 Total 1 867 81
BRYROC BRYAN ROCK PRODUCTS INC 1 867 81
BRYAN ROCK PRODUCTS INC 1 867 81
CAMPBELL KNUTSON
CAMKNU CAMPBELL KNUTSON
Ck 138742 12 11 08
Iny 113008
Line Item Date
11 30 08
Iny 113008 Total
Line Item Description
November Legal Services
Line Item Account
101 1140 4302 13 316 85
13 316 85
Ck 138742 Total 13 316 85
CAMKNU CAMPBELL KNUTSON 13 316 85
CAMPBELL KNUTSON 13 316 85
CARCO AUTO PARTS INC
caraut CARCO AUTO PARTS INC
Ck 138866 12 24 08
Iny 4955379
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 23 08 Bushing replaced inV 4952162
InY 4955379 Totm
Line Item Account
101 1550 4140 0 96
0 96
Ck 138866 Total 0 96
caraut CARCO AUTO PARTS INC 0 96
CARCO AUTO PARTS INC 0 96
CARGILL INCORPORATED
CARGIL CARGILL INCORPORATED
Ck 138868 12 24 08
InY 2381856
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 08 08 Bulk Ice Control
InY 2381856 Total
Line Item Account
101 1320 4150 6 663 78
6 663 78
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Printed 01 02 09 08 32
InY 2383153
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 09 08 Bulk Ice Control
InY 2383153 Total
Amount
Line Item Account
101 1320 4150 4 366 02
4 366 02
InY 2384437
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 10 08 Bulk Ice Control
Iny 2384437 Total
Line Item Account
101 1320 4150 1 425 30
1 425 30
Ck 138868 Total 12 455 10
Ck 138924 12 31 08
Iny 2394444
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 18 08 Bulk Ice Control
Iny 2394444 Total
Line Item Account
101 1320 4150 6 629 63
6 629 63
Ck 138924 Total 6 629 63
CARGIL CARGILL INCORPORATED 19 084 73
CARGILL INCORPORATED 19 084 73
Carver County
can ou Carver County
Ck 138743 12 11 08
Iny 120308
Line Item Date
12 03 08
Iny 120308 Total
Line Item Description
84 copies of reecnt chgs @ 25 each
Line Item Account
101 1150 4300 21 00
21 00
Iny 120508
Line Item Date
12 05 08
Iny 120508 Total
Line Item Description
97 copies of recent chgs @ 25 each
Line Item Account
101 1550 4300 24 25
24 25
Ck 138743 Total 45 25
Ck 138807
Iny 121108
Line Item Date
12 11 08
12 11 08
12 11 08
12 11 08
Iny 121108 Total
12 18 08
Line Item Description
TIF9
TIF 8
TIF4
TIF 5
Line Item Account
461 0000 4300
498 0000 4300
491 0000 4300
494 0000 4300
170 00
170 00
350 00
1 050 00
1 740 00
Ck 138807 Total 1 740 00
Ck 138808
Iny 120808
Line Item Date
12 08 08
Iny 120808 Total
12 18 08
Line Item Description
Renewal County Recording of Commission
Line Item Account
101 1310 4370 100 00
100 00
Ck 138808 Total 100 00
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Ck 138867
Iny 121708
Line Item Date
12 17 08
Iny 121708 Total
Ck 138867 Total
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
12 24 08
Line Item Description
120 copies @ 25 each
Line Item Account
101 1150 4300 30 00
30 00
30 00
Ck 138923 12 31 08
Iny PW1476
Line Item Date Line Item Description
10 30 08 Joint powers Agreement CSAH 18 08 154
Iny PW1476 Total
CARVER SWCD
CARSWC CARVER SWCD
Ck 138809 12 18 08
Iny 121208
Line Item Date
12 12 08
12 12 08
Iny 121208 Total
CATCO PARTS SERVICE
CATPAR CATCO PARTS SERVICE
Ck 138679 12 04 08
Iny 159245
Line Item Date
11 17 08
Iny 159245 Total
Ck 138923 Total
carcou
Carver County
Ck 138809 Total
Ck 138869
Iny 121808
Line Item Date
12 18 08
Iny 121808 Total
Ck 138869 Total
CARSWC
CARVER SWCD
Iny 363568
Line Item Date
11 21 08
Iny 363568 Total
Ck 138679 Total
Line Item Account
603 6301 4751 712 652 74
712 652 74
712 652 74
Carver County 714 567 99
714 567 99
Line Item Description
CSEC Monitoring
CSEC Monitoring
Line Item Account
720 0000 4300
400 0000 1155
330 00
715 00
1 045 00
1 045 00
12 24 08
Line Item Descriotion
Seedlings for Spring plantings
Line Item Account
720 7202 4300 400 00
400 00
400 00
CARVER SWCD 1 445 00
1 445 00
Line Item Description
Repair of plow cyl
Line Item Account
101 1320 4140 1 226 75
1 226 75
Line Item Descriotion
Rubber mud flaps
Line Item Account
101 1320 4140 137 68
137 68
1 364 43
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CENTERPOINT ENERGY MINNEGASCO
CENENE CENTERPOINT ENERGY MINNEGASCO
Ck 138744 12 11 08
Inv 112808
Line Item Date
11 28 08
11 28 08
11 28 08
11 28 08
11 28 08
Inv 112808 Total
CITY OF CHANHAS
User danielIe
CATPAR
CATCO PARTS SERVICE
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
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CATCO PARTS SERVICE
Amount
1 364 43
1 364 43
Line Item Description
November gas bill
November gas bill
November gas bill
November gas bill
November gas bill
Line Item Account
700 0000 4320
700 7019 4320
101 1170 4320
101 1170 4320
101 1190 4320
57 51
549 89
717 19
851 60
2 660 84
4 837 03
Inv 120108
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 01 08 Nov gas bill 1456 78th St W
Inv 120108 Total
Ck 138744 Total
Ck 138810
Inv 120808
Line Item Date
12 08 08
12 08 08
Inv 120808 Total
Inv 121008
Line Item Date
12 10 08
Inv 121008 Total
Ck 138810 Total
CENENE
Line Item Account
101 1550 4320 193 93
193 93
5 030 96
12 18 08
Line Item Description
Dec gas charges
Dec gas charges
Line Item Account
101 1551 4320
101 1220 4320
55 71
457 84
513 55
Line Item Description
Dec gas bill
Line Item Account
701 0000 4320 17 30
17 30
530 85
CENTERPOINT ENERGY MINNEGASCO 5 561 81
CENTERPOINT ENERGY MINNEGASCO 5 561 81
Centex Service Company LLC
censer Centex Service Company LLC
Ck 138811 12 18 08
Inv 121508
Line Item Date
12 15 08
Inv 121508 Total
Ck 138811 Total
censer
Line Item Description
Erosion Escrow 8047 Autumn Ridge Way
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 250 00
250 00
250 00
Centex Service Company LLC 250 00
Centex Service Company LLC 250 00
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CENTURY TEL
CENTEL CENTURY TEL
Ck 138680 12 04 08
Inv 112108
Line Item Date
11 21 08
11 21 08
11 21 08
11 21 08
11 21 08
11 21 08
11 21 08
11 21 08
11 21 08
11 21 08
11 21 08
11 21 08
11 21 08
11 21 08
Inv 112108 Total
Ck 138680 Total
Ck 138925
Inv 122108
Line Item Date
12 21 08
12 21 08
12 21 08
12 21 08
12 21 08
12 21 08
12 21 08
12 21 08
12 21 08
12 21 08
12 21 08
12 21 08
12 21 08
12 21 08
Inv 122108 Total
Ck 138925 Total
CENTEL
CENTURY TEL
Line Item Description
November phones services
November phones services
November phones services
November phones services
November phones services
November phones services
November phones services
November phones services
November phones services
November Phone Internet bill
November Phone Internet bill
November Phone Internet bill
November Phone Internet bill
November phones services
12 31 08
Line Item Description
Dec 2008 bill
Dec 2008 bill
Dec 2008 bill
Dec 2008 bill
Dec 2008 bill
Dec 2008 bill
Dec 2008 bill
Dec 2008 bill
Dec 2008 bill
Dec 2008 bill
Dec 2008 bill
Dec 2008 bill
Dec 2008 bill
Dec 2008 bill
CENTURY TEL
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
Line Item Account
700 0000 4310
701 0000 4310
101 1550 4310
101 1220 4310
101 1350 4310
101 1370 4310
101 1530 4310
101 1540 4310
101 1190 4310
700 0000 4310
701 0000 4310
700 7019 4310
10 1 1160 4320
10 1 1170 4310
6 14
6 14
33 80
35 84
44 70
49 09
69 05
95 16
145 34
145 40
145 40
311 59
350 00
890 47
2 328 12
2 328 12
Line Item Account
700 0000 4310
701 0000 4310
101 1550 4310
101 1220 4310
101 1350 4310
101 1370 4310
101 1530 4310
10 1 1540 4310
101 1190 4310
700 0000 4310
701 0000 4310
700 7019 4310
101 1160 4320
101 1170 4310
6 14
6 14
33 80
35 84
44 70
49 09
69 05
95 16
145 33
145 40
145 40
311 59
350 00
878 18
2 315 82
2 315 82
4 643 94
4 643 94
CHANHASSEN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
CHACHA CHANHASSEN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
Ck 138681 12 04 08
Inv 3159
Line Item Date
11 20 08
11 20 08
11 20 08
Inv 3159 Total
Ck 138681 Total
Line Item Description
Regional Chamber GM Luncheon
Regional Chamber GM Luncheon
Regional Chamber GM Luncheon
Line Item Account
101 1120 4370
101 1110 4370
101 1520 4370
20 00
20 00
100 00
140 00
140 00
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Ck 138745
Iny 120908
Line Item Date
12 09 08
12 09 08
Iny 120908 Total
Ck 138745 Total
CHACHA
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
12 11 08
Line Item Description
Chambermorphosis 12 1 0 08
Chambermorphosis 12 1 0 08
Line Item Account
101 1120 4370
101 1520 4370
40 00
60 00
100 00
100 00
CHANHASSEN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE 240 00
CHANHASSEN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE 240 00
CHANHASSEN VETERINARY
CHA VET CHANHASSEN VETERINARY
Ck 138746 12 11 08
Iny 115712
Line Item Date
11 04 08
Iny 115712 Total
Iny 117422
Line Item Date
12 04 08
Iny 117422 Total
Ck 138746 Total
CHA VET
Line Item Description
Impound cats and dogs
Line Item Account
101 1260 4300 520 02
520 02
Line Item Description
Impound cats and dogs
Line Item Account
101 1260 4300 426 28
426 28
946 30
CHANHASSEN VETERINARY 946 30
CHANHASSEN VETERINARY 946 30
CHASKA AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERC
CHASCR CHASKA AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERC
Ck 138812 12 18 08
Iny 95
Line Item Date
12 04 08
Iny 95 Total
Ck 138812 Total
CHASCR
Line Item Description
2009 Member Inyestment
Line Item Account
101 1110 4360 210 00
210 00
210 00
CHASKA AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERC 210 00
CHASKA AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERC 210 00
Choice Inc
Choice Choice Inc Account
Ck 138813 12 18 08
Iny 120808
Line Item Date
12 08 08
Iny 120808 Total
Ck 138813 Total
Choice
101 1220 4350
Line Item Description
10 20 11 14 08 Srvc Chan Fire Station
Line Item Account
101 1220 4350 206 39
206 39
206 39
Choice Inc 206 39
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Choice Inc
Amount
206 39
CHRISTIANS INC
CHRINC CHRISTIANS INC
Ck 138814 12 18 08
Iny 121208
Line Item Date
12 12 08
Iny 121208 Total
Line Item Description
AsBuilt Escrow 6271 Hummingbird Rd
Line Item Account
815 8226 2024 1 500 00
1 500 00
Ck 138814 Total 1 500 00
CHRINC CHRISTIANS INC 1 500 00
CHRISTIANS INC 1 500 00
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
UB 00169 CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Ck 138849 12 18 08
Iny
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 16 08 Refund check
Iny Total
Line Item Account
701 0000 2020 4 398 20
4 398 20
Ck 138849 Total 4 398 20
UB 00169 CITY OF CHANHASSEN 4 398 20
CITY OF CHANHASSEN 4 398 20
CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE
CITEDE CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE
Ck 138815 12 18 08
Iny 121508
Line Item Date
12 15 08
12 15 08
Iny 121508 Total
Line Item Description
Delinquent Utils certified for Eden Prai
Delinquent Utils certified for Eden Prai
Line Item Account
700 0000 3140
700 0000 3130
17 04
589 91
606 95
Ck 138815 Total 606 95
CITEDE CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE 606 95
CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE 606 95
CITY OF SHAKOPEE
SHAKOP CITY OF SHAKOPEE
Ck 138784 12 11 08
InY 4541
Line Item Date
12 05 08
Iny 4541 Total
Line Item Description
Firefighter II Training for J Williams
Line Item Account
101 1220 4370 208 34
208 34
Ck 138784 Total 208 34
SHAKOP CITY OF SHAKOPEE 208 34
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Printed 01 02 09 08 32
CITY OF SHAKOPEE
Amount
208 34
COLE INFORMATION SERVICES
COLINF COLE INFORMATION SERVICES
Ck 138747 12 11 08
Inv 0520753IN
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 25 08 Licensed subscription renewal
Inv 0520753IN Tot
Line Item Account
101 1170 4300 358 95
358 95
Ck 138747 Total 358 95
COLINF COLE INFORMATION SERVICES 358 95
COLE INFORMATION SERVICES 358 95
COMPUTER INTEGRATION TECHN
COMINT COMPUTER INTEGRATION TECHN
Ck 138870 12 24 08
Inv 76655
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 17 08 Services retainer
Inv 76655 Total
Line Item Account
101 1160 4300 4 000 00
4 000 00
Ck 138870 Total 4 000 00
COMINT COMPUTER INTEGRATION TECHN 4 000 00
COMPUTER INTEGRATION TECHN 4 000 00
CORPORATE EXPRESS
COREXP CORPORATE EXPRESS Account 101 1170 4110
Ck 138682 12 04 08
Inv 91823988
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 20 08 Books Appt
Inv 91823988 Tot
Inv 91823989
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 20 08 Book Appt DY 8x5 NY 2009
Inv 91823989 Total
Line Item Account
101 1170 4110 12 36
12 36
Line Item Account
101 1170 411 0 20 43
20 43
Line Item Account
101 1170 411 0 100 88
100 88
Line Item Account
101 1170 4110 21 32
21 32
154 99
Inv 91854400
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 21 08 Punch Paper Bldg Dept
Inv 91854400 Tot
Inv 91910986
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 25 08 Cal Wall Ers 2SD
Inv 91910986 Total
Ck 138682 Total
Ck 138816 12 18 08
Inv 92202470
Line Item Date
12 1 0 08
Line Item Description
Misc office supplies
Line Item Account
101 1170 411 0 83 52
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Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Iny 92202470 Total
Amount
83 52
Ck 138816 Total 83 52
Ck 138926 12 31 08
Iny 92202467
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 10 08 Misc office supplies
Iny 92202467 Total
Line Item Account
101 1310 4110 23 62
23 62
Ck 138926 Total 23 62
COREXP CORPORATE EXPRESS 262 13
CORPORATE EXPRESS 262 13
CUB FOODS
CUBFOO CUB FOODS
Ck 138748 12 11 08
Iny 112908
Line Item Date
11 29 08
Iny 112908 Total
Line Item Description
Chan Fire Dept J Galyin
Line Item Account
101 1220 4370 180 11
180 11
Ck 138748 Total 180 11
CUBFOO CUB FOODS 180 11
CUB FOODS 180 11
CUT ABOVE WOOD CO INC
CUTABO CUT ABOVE WOOD CO INC
Ck 138817 12 18 08
Iny 313429
Line Item Date
12 12 08
Iny 313429 Total
Line Item Description
Trim Oak by new maint bldg chip brush
Line Item Account
720 7202 4300 745 50
745 50
Ck 138817 Total 745 50
CUTABO CUT ABOVE WOOD CO INC 745 50
CUT ABOVE WOOD CO INC 745 50
DAHL TERRY
DAHL TERR DAHL TERRY
Ck 138818 12 18 08
Iny 120508
Line Item Date
12 05 08
12 05 08
Iny 120508 Total
Line Item Descriotion
American Chung do Kwan Tae Kwon Do Assoc
American Chung do Kwan Tae Kwon Do Assoc
Line Item Account
101 1538 4300
101 1539 4300
230 80
585 00
815 80
Ck 138818 Total 815 80
DAHLTERR DAHL TERRY 815 80
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Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
DAHL TERRY
Amount
815 80
DAMON FARBER ASSOCIATES
DAMFAR DAMON FARBER ASSOCIATES
Ck 138683 12 04 08
Iny 20329
Line Item Date
11 26 08
Iny 20329 Total
Line Item Description
City Center Park 06 165
Line Item Account
410 0000 4300 1 234 90
1 234 90
Ck 138683 Total 1 234 90
Ck 138927
Iny 20394
Line Item Date
12 23 08
Iny 20394 Total
12 31 08
Line Item Description
City Center Park professional services
Line Item Account
410 0000 4300 190 00
190 00
Ck 138927 Total 190 00
DAMFAR DAMON FARBER ASSOCIATES 1 424 90
DAMON FARBER ASSOCIATES 1 424 90
DANKA OFFICE IMAGING COMPANY
DANKA DANKA OFFICE IMAGING COMPANY
Ck 138749 12 11 08
Iny 706336179
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 30 08 Digital Std Base Chg Canon Copier
Iny 706336179 Total
Line Item Account
101 1120 4410 879 13
879 13
Ck 138749 Total 879 13
DANKA DANKA OFFICE IMAGING COMPANY 879 13
DANKA OFFICE IMAGING COMPANY 879 13
DEBNER RANDY
DEBNRAND DEBNER RANDY
Ck 138750 12 11 08
Iny 120908
Line Item Date
12 09 08
Iny 120908 Total
Line Item Description
Reimbursement Master Plumber s License
Line Item Account
10 1 1250 4440 120 00
120 00
Ck 138750 Total 120 00
DEBNRAND DEBNER RANDY 120 00
DEBNER RANDY 120 00
Deep Rock Water Company
DeepRock Deep Rock Water Company
Ck 138751 12 11 08
Iny 112108
Line Item Date
11 21 08
Line Item Description
Bottle dept water rm temp cold coole
Line Item Account
101 1550 4120 99 56
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Inv 112108 Total
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
99 56
Inv 6584842
Line Item Date Line Item Description
09 25 08 rm temp cold cooler
Inv 6584842 Total
Ck 138751 Total
DeepRock
Deep Rock Water Company
Line Item Account
101 1550 4120 6 71
6 71
106 27
Deep Rock Water Company 106 27
106 27
DELEGARD TOOL COMPANY
DELTOO DELEGARD TOOL COMPANY
Ck 138871 12 24 08
Inv 342765
Line Item Date
12 03 08
Inv 342765 Total
Inv 342767
Line Item Date
12 03 08
Inv 342767 Total
Inv 344153
Line Item Date
12 09 08
Inv 344153 Total
Inv 348200
Line Item Date
12 23 08
Inv 348200 Total
Inv 348201
Line Item Date
12 23 08
Inv 348201 Total
Inv 348204
Line Item Date
12 23 08
Inv 348204 Total
Line Item Description
Misc parts supplies
Line Item Account
101 1370 4260 158 05
158 05
Line Item Account
101 1370 4260 15 42
15 42
Line Item Account
101 1370 4260 25 94
25 94
Line Item Account
101 1370 4260 25 94
25 94
Line Item Account
101 1370 4260 158 05
158 05
Line Item Account
10 1 13 70 4260 15 42
15 42
Line Item Account
101 1370 4260 179 53
179 53
179 53
179 53
179 53
Line Item Description
Return Faulty
Line Item Description
1 4 Ratchet
Line Item Description
CR Original inv 344153
Line Item Description
CR Original inv 342765
Line Item Description
CR Original Inv 342767
Inv 348208
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 23 08 Rebilled inv 344153 342765 342767 tax
Inv 348208 Total
Ck 138871 Total
DELTOO
DELEGARD TOOL COMPANY
DELEGARD TOOL COMPANY
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Amount
Delta Dental
DeIDen Delta Dental
Ck 138819 12 18 08
InY 4181750
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 15 08 Ian 2009 premiums
12 15 08 Ian 2009 premiums
12 15 08 Ian 2009 premiums
12 15 08 Ian 2009 premiums
InY 4181750 Total
Line Item Account
701 0000 2013
720 0000 2013
700 0000 2013
101 0000 2013
77 44
138 19
221 74
1 294 08
1 731 45
Ck 138819 Total 1 731 45
DeIDen Delta Dental 1 731 45
Delta Dental 1 731 45
Diedrick Joseph Gail
DiedJose Diedrick Joseph Gail
Ck 138820 12 18 08
Iny 121708
Line Item Date
12 17 08
Iny 121708 Total
Line Item Description
Rebate on Frigidaire
Line Item Account
720 7204 490 I 100 00
100 00
Ck 138820 Total 100 00
Ck 138872 12 24 08
Iny 122208
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 22 08 Refund Winter Wonderland Tot Time
Inv 122208 Total
Line Item Account
101 1537 3631 5 00
5 00
Ck 138872 Total 5 00
DiedJose Diedrick Joseph Gail 105 00
Diedrick Joseph Gail 105 00
Diethelm Anthony
dietanth Diethelm Anthony
Ck 138928 12 31 08
Iny 123008
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 30 08 Erosion Escrow 402 Del Rio Driye
Iny 123008 Total
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 250 00
250 00
Ck 138928 Total 250 00
dietanth Diethelm Anthony 250 00
Diethelm Anthony 250 00
DYNAMEXDEL RSNOW
DYNAME DYNAMEXDEL RSNOW
Ck 138684 12 04 08
Iny 1384720
Line Item Date
11 13 08
Line Item Description
Deliyery Public Works to MN Dept of Heal
Line Item Account
700 0000 4330 35 51
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Iny 1384720 Total
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
35 51
Iny 1385900
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 20 08 Deliyery Public Works to MN Dept of Heal
Iny 1385900 Total
Ck 138684 Total
DYNAME
Line Item Account
700 0000 4330 35 51
35 51
71 02
DYNAMEX DELIVERS NOW 71 02
DYNAMEX DELIVERS NOW 71 02
Edina Realty Title
UB 00182 Edina Realty Title
Ck 138975 12 31 08
Iny
Line Item Date
12 31 08
12 3 1 08
12 31 08
12 31 08
Iny Total
EHLERS ASSOCIATES INC
EHLERS EHLERS ASSOCIATES INC
Ck 138821 12 18 08
Iny 338503
Line Item Date
12 1 0108
12 10 08
12 1 0 08
InY 338503 Total
Ck 138975 Total
UB 00182
Edina Realty Title
Ck 138821 Total
EHLERS
Line Item Description
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
Line Item Account
700 0000 2020
720 0000 2020
701 0000 2020
700 0000 2020
1 88
7 62
18 86
104 01
132 37
132 37
Edina Realty Title 132 37
132 37
Line Item Description
Utility Rate Study
Utility Rate Study
Utility Rate Study
Line Item Account
720 0000 4300
700 0000 4300
701 0000 4300
847 91
847 92
847 92
2 543 75
2 543 75
EHLERS ASSOCIATES INC 2 543 75
EHLERS ASSOCIATES INC 2 543 75
EKHOLM PAUL
EKHOPAUL EKHOLM PAUL
Ck 138873 12 24 08
Iny 122308
Line Item Date
12 23 08
Iny 122308 Total
Ck 138873 Total
EKHOPAUL
Line Item Description
12 3 12 4 Vadnais Heights Seminar
Line Item Account
101 1250 4370 70 20
70 20
70 20
EKHOLM PAUL 70 20
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Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
70 20
ELECTRICAL INSTALL MAINT INC
ELEINS ELECTRICAL INSTALL MAINT INC
Ck 138752 12 11 08
Inv 10256IN
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 02 08 Srvc install photo eye on light pole 2
Inv 10256IN Tot
Ck 138752 Total
ELEINS
Line Item Account
700 0000 4550 208 38
208 38
208 38
ELECTRICAL INSTALL MAINT INC 208 38
ELECTRICAL INSTALL MAINT INC 208 38
EMERGENCY APPARATUS MAINT INC
EMEAPP EMERGENCY APPARATUS MAINT INC
Ck 138753 12 11 08
Inv 39432
Line Item Date
11 25 08
Inv 39432 Total
Inv 39433
Line Item Date
11 25 08
Inv 39433 Total
Inv 39434
Line Item Date
11 25 08
Inv 39434 Total
Inv 39435
Line Item Date
11 25 08
Inv 39435 Total
Inv 39591
Line Item Date
11 25 08
Inv 39591 Total
Ck 138753 Total
EMEAPP
Line Item Description
Engine 210 NFP A Pump Test Service
Line Item Account
101 1220 4520 321 43
321 43
Line Item Account
101 1220 4520 321 43
321 43
Line Item Account
101 1220 4520 321 43
321 43
Line Item Account
101 1220 4520 321 43
321 43
Line Item Account
101 1220 4520 325 97
325 97
1 611 69
1 611 69
1 611 69
Line Item Description
Engine 211 NFPA Pump Test Service
Line Item Description
Engine 212 NFPA Pump Test Service
Line Item Description
Ladder 228 NFP A Pump Test Service
Line Item Description
Engine 209 NFP A Pump Test Service
EMERGENCY APPARATUS MAINT INC
EMERGENCY APPARATUS MAINT INC
Engel Water Testing Ine
engwat Engel Water Testing Ine
Ck 138685 12 04 08
Inv 085958
Line Item Date
11 19 08
Inv 085958 Total
Line Item Description
25 water samples collected 11 18 08
Line Item Account
700 0000 4509 350 00
350 00
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Ck 138685 Total
Amount
350 00
Ck 138822
Inv 085994
Line Item Date
12 08 08
Inv 085994 Total
12 18 08
Line Item Description
Water Tests for Fecal Coliform
Line Item Account
701 0000 4509 945 00
945 00
Ck 138822 Total 945 00
engwat Engel Water Testing Inc 1 295 00
Engel Water Testing Inc 1 295 00
Excelsior Construction
exccon Excelsior Construction
Ck 138929 12 31 08
Inv 123008
Line Item Date
12 30 08
Inv 123008 Total
Line Item Description
Erosion Escrow 429 Pleasant View
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 500 00
500 00
Ck 138929 Total 500 00
exccon Excelsior Construction 500 00
Excelsior Construction 500 00
FACTORY MOTOR PARTS COMPANY
FACMOT FACTORY MOTOR PARTS COMPANY
Ck 138874 12 24 08
Inv 12979948
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 19 08 Credit for Defective Battery
Inv 12979948 Total
Inv 12997005
Line Item Date
12 16 08
Line Item Description
Credit for Battery Cores
Line Item Account
101 1320 4120 120 92
120 92
Line Item Account
101 1320 4120 8 00
8 00
Line Item Account
101 1220 4120 90 34
90 34
Line Item Account
101 1320 4120 8 00
8 00
Line Item Account
101 1170 4140 88 14
88 14
Line Item Account
101 1320 4140 16 00
Page 24
Inv 12979949
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 19 08 Credit for Battery Cores
Inv 12979949 Total
Inv 12982076
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 24 08 Pro Batt PP54 UN279 7
Inv 12982076 Tot
Inv 12984041
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 25 08 Credit for Battery Cores
Inv 12984041 Total
Inv 12995420
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 15 08 Pro Batt PP72 UN279 7
Inv 12995420 Total
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FACMOT FACTORY MOTOR PARTS COMPANY
Amount
16 00
Line Item Account
101 1250 4140 112 45
112 45
Line Item Account
101 1550 4140 18 13
18 13
Line Item Account
101 1250 4140 88 89
88 89
Line Item Account
101 1250 4140 57 74
57 74
Line Item Account
101 1250 4140 112 45
112 45
415 22
415 22
415 22
Iny 12997005 Total
InY 41151968
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 18 08 Joint F C
Iny 41151968 Total
InY 61096645
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 15 08 Thermostat Seal
InY 61096645 Total
InY 61097118
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 16 08 Prof Battery
Iny 61097118 Total
InY 61097609
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 18 08 Frt Susp Lwr Arm BL
Iny 61097609 Total
InY 61098108
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 18 08 Joint F C
InY 61098108 Total
Ck 138874 Total
FACTORY MOTOR PARTS COMPANY
FIRE EQUIPMENT SPECIALITIES
FIREQU FIRE EQUIPMENT SPECIALITIES
Ck 138875 12 24 08
Iny 5986
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 15 08 Helmet
Iny 5986 Total
Line Item Account
400 4105 4705 990 95
990 95
Ck 138875 Total 990 95
FIREQU FIRE EQUIPMENT SPECIALITIES 990 95
FIRE EQUIPMENT SPECIALITIES 990 95
First American Title
UB 00173 First American Title
Ck 138853 12 18 08
Iny
Line Item Date
12 16 08
12 16 08
12 16 08
12 16 08
12 16 08
12 16 08
12 16 08
Line Item Description
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
Line Item Account
720 0000 2020
700 0000 2020
701 0000 2020
700 0000 2020
720 0000 2020
700 0000 2020
701 0000 2020
4 08
7 31
16 18
16 58
36 83
44 00
75 89
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Iny Total
Ck 138853 Total
UB 00173
First American Title
First American Title
First Financial Title Agency
UB 00181 First Financial Title Agency
Ck 138974 12 31 08
Inv
Line Item Date
12 31 08
12 31 08
12 31 08
12 31 08
Iny Total
Ck 138974 Total
UB 00181
First Financial Title Agency
Line Item Descriotion
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
First Financial Title Agency
Foss Swim School
fosswi Foss Swim School
Ck 138930 12 31 08
Iny 123008
Line Item Date Line Item Descriotion
12 30 08 Erosion Escrow 421 Lake Driye
Iny 123008 Total
Ck 138930 Total
fosswi
Foss Swim School
Foss Swim School
GAGNER NANCY
GAGNNANC GAGNER NANCY
Ck 138754 12 11 08
Iny 120508
Line Item Date
12 05 08
12 05 08
12 05 08
12 05 08
Iny 120508 Total
Ck 138754 Total
GAGNNANC
GAGNER NANCY
Line Item Descriotion
Program supplies Mom n Me
Instructor fee Mom n Me
Instructor fee Make n Take
Program supplies Make n Take
GAGNER NANCY
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
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Amount
200 87
200 87
200 87
200 87
Line Item Account
700 0000 2020
700 0000 2020
701 0000 2020
720 0000 2020
5 78
8 98
18 98
36 38
70 12
70 12
70 12
70 12
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 1 000 00
1 000 00
1 000 00
1 000 00
1 000 00
Line Item Account
101 1711 4130
101 1711 4300
101 1731 4300
101 1731 4130
48 00
50 00
50 00
54 00
202 00
202 00
202 00
202 00
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Amount
Gary Danielson Construction In
gardanco Gary Danielson Construction In
Ck 138931 12 31 08
Iny 123008
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 30 08 Erosion Escrow 65 Pleasant View Road
Iny 123008 Total
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 250 00
250 00
Ck 138931 Total 250 00
gardanco Gary Danielson Construction In 250 00
Gary Danielson Construction In 250 00
GERHARDT TODD
GERHTODD GERHARDT TODD
Ck 138755 12 11 08
Iny 120408
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 04 08 Dec 2008 Car Allowance
Iny 120408 Total
Line Item Account
101 1120 4380 425 00
425 00
Ck 138755 Total 425 00
GERHTODD GERHARDT TODD 425 00
GERHARDT TODD 425 00
GOPHER SIGN COMPANY
gopsig GOPHER SIGN COMPANY
Ck 138756 12 11 08
Iny 77387
Line Item Date
11 20108
Iny 77387 Total
Line Item Description
no parking symbol object marker
Line Item Account
101 1320 4560 638 81
638 81
Ck 138756 Total 638 81
gopsig GOPHER SIGN COMPANY 638 81
GOPHER SIGN COMPANY 638 81
GOPHER STATE ONE CALL INC
GOPSTA GOPHER STATE ONE CALL INC
Ck 138686 12 04 08
InY 8110381
Line Item Date Line Item Description
I 1 30 08 November Locates
Iny 8110381 Total
Line Item Account
400 0000 4300 329 15
329 15
Ck 138686 Total 329 15
GOPSTA GOPHER STATE ONE CALL INC 329 15
GOPHER STATE ONE CALL INC 329 15
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Amount
GS DIRECT INC
GSDIR GS DIRECT INC
Ck 138932 12 31 08
InY 254715
Line Item Date
12 15 08
InY 254715 Total
Line Item Description
Misc office supplies
Line Item Account
101 1170 4110 88 33
88 33
Ck 138932 Total 88 33
GSDIR GS DIRECT INC 88 33
GS DIRECT INC 88 33
GYM WORKS INC
GYMWOR GYM WORKS INC
Ck 138933 12 31 08
Iny 5742
Line Item Date
12 18 08
Iny 5742 Total
Line Item Description
Stairmaster display service
Line Item Account
101 1530 4120 680 23
680 23
Ck 138933 Total 680 23
GYMWOR GYM WORKS INC 680 23
GYM WORKS INC 680 23
H L MESABI
H LMES H L MESABI
Ck 138934 12 31 08
Iny 76211
Line Item Date
12 18 08
Iny 76211 Total
Line Item Description
Carbide Inserted Blads
Line Item Account
101 1320 4120 3 863 82
3 863 82
InY 76212
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 18 08 Carbide Inserted Blad
Iny 76212 Total
Line Item Account
101 1320 4120 272 64
272 64
Ck 138934 Total 4 136 46
H LMES H L MESABI 4 136 46
H L MESABI 4 136 46
Hach Company
hach Hach Company
Ck 138876 12 24 08
InY 6015506
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 03 08 Spadns Reagent soln alkaline cyanide
InY 6015506 Total
Line Item Account
700 7019 4160 133 63
133 63
Ck 138876 Total 133 63
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hach Hach Company
Amount
133 63
Hach Company 133 63
HANSEN THORP PELLINEN OLSON
HANTHO HANSEN THORP PELLINEN OLSON
Ck 138757 12 11 08
Iny 17628
Line Item Date
12 05 08
Iny 17628 Total
Line Item Description
Lake Ann Park shelter ballfield light
Line Item Account
410 0000 4300 24 00
24 00
Ck 138757 Total 24 00
Ck 138823
Iny 17617
Line Item Date
12 05 08
Iny 17617 Total
12 18 08
Line Item Description
Chan Public Works Site Proj 08 069
Line Item Account
421 0000 4300 237 50
237 50
Ck 138823 Total 237 50
HANTHO HANSEN THORP PELLINEN OLSON 261 50
HANSEN THORP PELLINEN OLSON 261 50
HAWKINS CHEMICAL
HA WCHE HAWKINS CHEMICAL
Ck 138687 12 04 08
Iny 12494 6
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 05 08 Azone 15 EPA Reg No 7870 5 Bulk
Iny 12494 6 Total
Line Item Account
700 7019 4160 4 765 11
4 765 11
Iny 1251412RM
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 05 08 Azone 15 EPA Reg No 7870 5 Bulk
Iny 1251412RM Total
Line Item Account
700 7019 4160 5 545 99
5 545 99
Ck 138687 Total 780 88
Ck 138758 12 11 08
Iny 1255376
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 30 08 chlorine cylinder
Iny 1255376 Total
Line Item Account
700 7019 4160 40 00
40 00
Ck 138758 Total 40 00
hawche HAWKINS CHEMICAL 820 88
HAWKINS CHEMICAL 820 88
HD Supply Waterworks LTD
HDsup HD Supply Waterworks LTD
Ck 138688 12 04 08
Iny 7624219
Line Item Date
11 14 08
Line Item Description
PMM 1 1 2 ECR 1000G MTR
Line Item Account
700 0000 4250 282 23
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InY 7624219 Total
Amount
282 23
Iny 8296752
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 24 08 Valye box bottom base lid m water dom
Iny 8296752 Total
Line Item Account
700 0000 4150 873 94
873 94
Ck 138688 Total 1 156 17
Ck 138759 12 11 08
Iny 8330546
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 03 08 polytape bituminous coal tar spray
Iny 8330546 Totm
Line Item Account
700 0000 4150 26 45
26 45
Iny 8336334
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 04 08 misc supplies
Iny 8336334 Total
Line Item Account
701 0000 4553 170 49
170 49
Iny 8337906
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 04 08 PVC sewer PPE
Iny 8337906 Total
Line Item Account
701 0000 4553 157 45
157 45
Ck 138759 Total 354 39
Ck 138824 12 18 08
InY 8355155
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 09 08 Clamps
Iny 8355155 Total
Line Item Account
700 0000 4552 327 19
327 19
Ck 138824 Total 327 19
Ck 138877 12 24 08
Iny 8363452
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 11 08 Nonpit MXU Single Port Wired Unit
Iny 8363452 Total
Line Item Account
700 0000 4250 4 888 35
4 888 35
Ck 138877 Total 4 888 35
HDsup HD Supply Waterworks LTD 6 726 10
HD Supply Waterworks LTD 6 726 10
HENNEPIN COUNTY TREASURER
HENTRE HENNEPIN COUNTY TREASURER
Ck 138825 12 18 08
Inv 112008
Line Item Date
11 20108
Iny 112008 Total
Line Item Description
Courier MN Statutes Rules
Line Item Account
101 1180 4300 26 14
26 14
Ck 138825 Total 26 14
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Amount
Ck 138935 12 31 08
Inv 122008
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 20 08 2009 Truth in Taxation Notices
Inv 122008 Total
Line Item Account
101 1130 4340 3 76
3 76
Ck 138935 Total 3 76
HENTRE HENNEPIN COUNTY TREASURER 29 90
HENNEPIN COUNTY TREASURER 29 90
HOFFMAN MATT
HOFFMATT HOFFMAN MATT
Ck 138826 12 18 08
Inv 121708
Line Item Date
12 17 08
Inv 121708 Total
Line Item Description
Rebate for dishwasher
Line Item Account
720 7204 4901 100 00
100 00
Ck 138826 Total 100 00
HOFFMATT HOFFMAN MATT 100 00
HOFFMAN MATT 100 00
Honda Electric Inc
HonEle Honda Electric Inc
Ck 138689 12 04 08
Inv 6
Line Item Date
11 13 08
Inv 6 Total
Line Item Description
Lake Ann Park ball field lighting proj
Line Item Account
410 0000 4705 39 990 00
39 990 00
Ck 138689 Total 39 990 00
HonEle Honda Electric Inc 39 990 00
Honda Electric Inc 39 990 00
ICMA RETIREMENT AND TRUST 457
ICMART ICMA RETIREMENT AND TRUST 457
Ck 138690 12 04 08
Inv
Line Item Date
12 02 08
12 02 08
Inv Total
Line Item Description
PR Batch 405 122008 ICMA
PR Batch 405 122008 ICMA
Line Item Account
720 0000 2009
101 0000 2009
100 00
1 110 00
1 210 00
Ck 138690 Total 1 210 00
Ck 138827
Inv
Line Item Date
12 16 08
12 16 08
Inv Total
12 18 08
Line Item Description
PR Batch 419 122008 ICMA
PR Batch 419 122008 ICMA
Line Item Account
720 0000 2009
101 0000 2009
100 00
1 235 00
1 335 00
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Ck 138936
Inv
Line Item Date
12 30 08
12 30 08
Inv Total
Ck 138936 Total
ICMART
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
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Amount
1 335 00
12 31 08
Line Item Description
PR Batch 402 I 2009 ICMA
PR Batch 402 I 2009 ICMA
Line Item Account
720 0000 2009
101 0000 2009
100 00
1 235 00
1 335 00
1 335 00
ICMA RETIREMENT AND TRUST 457 3 880 00
ICMA RETIREMENT AND TRUST 457 3 880 00
IGEL DAVID
IGELDAVI IGEL DAVID
Ck 138937 12 31 08
Inv 123008
Line Item Date
12 30 08
Inv 123008 Total
INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DIST 112
INDSCH INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DIST 112
Ck 138878 12 24 08
Inv I
Line Item Date
12 18 08
Inv I Total
Ck 138937 Total
IGELDA VI
IGEL DAVID
Ck 138878 Total
INDSCH
Line Item Description
Erosion Escrow 501 Big Woods Boulevard
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 500 00
500 00
500 00
IGEL DAVID 500 00
500 00
Line Item Description
July Oct 2008 Electricity Gas Sewer Wate
Line Item Account
101 1530 4320 8 839 74
8 839 74
8 839 74
INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DIST 112 8 839 74
INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DIST 112 8 839 74
INDOOR LANDSCAPES INC
INDLAN INDOOR LANDSCAPES INC
Ck 138691 12 04 08
Inv 7282
Line Item Date
11 01 08
Inv 7282 Total
Inv 7312
Line Item Date
12 01 08
Inv 7312 Total
Ck 138691 Total
Line Item Description
November plant service weekly maint
Line Item Account
101 1170 4300 199 16
199 16
Line Item Description
Dec plant service weekly maintenance
Line Item Account
101 1170 4300 199 16
199 16
398 32
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INDLAN INDOOR LANDSCAPES INC
Amount
398 32
INDOOR LANDSCAPES INC 398 32
INFRA TECH
INFRAT INFRATECH
Ck 138692 12 04 08
Inv 4
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 20 08 Construction contract
Inv 4 Total
Line Item Account
701 7024 4751 33 707 90
33 707 90
Ck 138692 Total 33 707 90
Ck 138879
Inv 800778
Line Item Date
12 02 08
Inv 800778 Total
12 24 08
Line Item Description
Mark Flag City ofChan Buried Water Line
Line Item Account
701 0000 4150 113 93
113 93
Ck 138879 Total 113 93
INFRA T INFRA TECH 33 821 83
INFRATECH 33 821 83
INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL
ICC INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL
Ck 138760 12 11 08
Inv 120808
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 08 08 09 Certification Renewal R Ericson
Inv 120808 Total
Line Item Account
10 1 1250 4440 50 00
50 00
Ck 138760 Total 50 00
Ck 138761
Inv 120408
Line Item Date
12 04 08
Inv 120408 Total
12 11 08
Line Item Description
Educational Institute RegistrationForm
Line Item Account
101 1220 4370 250 00
250 00
Ck 138761 Total 250 00
ICC INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL 300 00
INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL 300 00
INTERSTATE POWERSYSTEMS
INTDET INTERSTATE POWERSYSTEMS
Ck 138880 12 24 08
Inv COO1034154 01
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 08 08 Filters and Gasket
Inv COO1034154 01 Total
Line Item Account
101 1320 4140 144 30
144 30
Ck 138880 Total 144 30
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Amount
144 30 INTERSTATE POWERSYSTEMS
144 30 INTERSTATE POWERSYSTEMS
J Rohs Homes Ine
jrohs J Rohs Homes Ine
Ck 138697 12 04 08
Iny 120308
Line Item Date
12 03 08
Iny 120308 Total
Line Item Description
Asbuilt Escrow 2358 Highoyer Trl
Ck 138697 Total
Ck 138762 12 11 08
InY 200801306
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 09 08 refund water meter charge
InY 200801306 Total
Ck 138762 Total
jrobs J Robs Homes Ine
J Robs Homes Ine
JEFFERSON FIRE SAFETY INC
JEFFIR JEFFERSON FIRE SAFETY INC
Ck 138693 12 04 08
Iny 154102
Line Item Date
11 26 08
Iny 154102 Total
Line Item Description
Hoses Pressure relief device
Ck 138693 Total
JEFFIR
Line Item Account
815 8226 2024 1 500 00
1 500 00
1 500 00
Line Item Account
700 0000 3664 338 00
338 00
338 00
1 838 00
1 838 00
Line Item Account
101 1220 4120 1 395 50
1 395 50
1 395 50
JEFFERSON FIRE SAFETY INC 1 395 50
JEFFERSON FIRE SAFETY INC
JOHNSON JERRE
JOHNSJER JOHNSON JERRE
Ck 138694 12 04 08
Iny 120108
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 01 08 Check from Sr Center
Iny 120108 Total
Ck 138694 Total
JOHNSJER JOHNSON JERRE
JOHNSON JERRE
1 395 50
Line Item Account
101 1560 3637 24 00
24 00
24 00
24 00
24 00
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JOHNSTONE SUPPLY
JOHSUP JOHNSTONE SUPPLY
Ck 138695 12 04 08
Iny 1190
Line Item Date
11 25 08
Iny 1190 Total
Ck 138695 Total
Ck 138828
InY 2981
Line Item Date
12 09 08
InY 2981 Total
Ck 138828 Total
Ck 138938
Iny 4385
Line Item Date
12 12 08
Iny 4385 Total
Iny 5896
Line Item Date
12 23 08
Iny 5896 Total
Ck 138938 Total
JOHSUP
JOHNSTONE SUPPLY
Jones Andrew
JoneAndr Jones Andrew
Ck 138696 12 04 08
Iny 112008
Line Item Date
11 20 08
Iny 112008 Total
Ck 138696 Total
JoneAndr
Jones Andrew
Line Item Description
Temp sensor eco outlet
12 18 08
Line Item Description
Inducer Assembly
12 31 08
Line Item Description
Coupler Hndl Hexset Liq Gauge
Line Item Description
Liq Gauge
JOHNSTONE SUPPLY
Accounts Payable
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Amount
Line Item Account
101 1190 4120 318 77
318 77
318 77
Line Item Account
101 1370 4510 339 27
339 27
339 27
Line Item Account
101 1190 4530 90 97
90 97
Line Item Account
101 1190 4530 37 62
37 62
128 59
786 63
786 63
Line Item Description
Honorarium Rain Gardening as Water Cons
Jones Andrew
KA TH FUEL OIL SERVICE
KATFUE KATH FUEL OIL SERVICE
Ck 138939 12 31 08
Iny 239784
Line Item Date
12 19 08
Iny 239784 Total
Ck 138939 Total
Line Item Description
Ultra low polar plus B2 dyed
Line Item Account
720 7202 4130 150 00
150 00
150 00
150 00
150 00
Line Item Account
101 1370 4170 6 759 92
6 759 92
6 759 92
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KATFUE KA TH FUEL OIL SERVICE
Amount
6 759 92
KATH FUEL OIL SERVICE 6 759 92
Kawell Mooney Sawyer
KawMoo Kawell Mooney Sawyer
Ck 138940 12 31 08
Iny 123008
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 30 08 Erosion Escrow 501 Indian HilI Road
Iny 123008 Total
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 500 00
500 00
Ck 138940 Total 500 00
KawMoo Kawell Mooney Sawyer 500 00
Kawell Mooney Sawyer 500 00
KILLMER ELECTRIC CO INC
KILELE KILLMER ELECTRIC CO INC
Ck 138829 12 18 08
InY 67601
Line Item Date
1 1 28 08
InY 67601 Total
Line Item Description
Tree lights repair no materials
Line Item Account
101 1350 4565 297 50
297 50
Ck 138829 Total 297 50
KILELE KILLMER ELECTRIC CO INC 297 50
KILLMER ELECTRIC CO INC 297 50
Kircher Bob
kircbob Kircher Bob
Ck 138941 12 31 08
Iny 112808
Line Item Date
1 1 28 08
Iny 112808 Total
Line Item Description
Washer KM GRP Rebate
Line Item Account
720 7204 4901 100 00
100 00
Ck 138941 Total 100 00
kircbob Kircher Bob 100 00
Kircher Bob 100 00
LECY BROTHERS CONSTRUCTION INC
UB 00177 LECY BROTHERS CONSTRUCTION INC
Ck 138970 12 31 08
Iny
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 31 08 Refund check
Iny Total
Line Item Account
720 0000 2020 6 76
6 76
Ck 138970 Total 6 76
UB 00177 LECY BROTHERS CONSTRUCTION INC 6 76
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LECY BROTHERS CONSTRUCTION INC
Amount
6 76
LENDINO ANN
LENDANN LENDINO ANN
Ck 138881 12 24 08
Iny 122208
Line Item Date
12 22 08
Iny 122208 Total
Lenzen Construction
lencon Lenzen Construction
Ck 138942 12 31 08
Iny 123008
Line Item Date
12 30 08
Iny 123008 Total
Ck 138881 Total
LENDANN
LENDINO ANN
Ck 138942 Total
lencon
Lenzen Construction
LHB Inc
LHBInc LHB Inc
Ck 138763 12 11 08
Iny 1
Line Item Date
11 11 08
Iny 1 Total
Ck 138763 Total
LHBInc
LHB Inc
Lietz Marsha
LietMars Lietz Marsha
Ck 138882 12 24 08
Iny KA126
Line Item Date
12 18 08
Iny KAI26 Total
Ck 138882 Total
LietMars
Lietz Marsha
Line Item Description
Refund Chess Club Beginner 2091 129
Line Item Account
101 1538 3631 80 00
80 00
80 00
LENDINO ANN 80 00
80 00
Line Item Description
Erosion Escrow 202 West 78th Street
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 500 00
500 00
500 00
Lenzen Construction 500 00
500 00
Line Item Description
Chan Dinner Theater TIF District
Line Item Account
462 0000 4300 4 421 23
4 421 23
4 421 23
LHB Inc 4 421 23
4 421 23
Line Item Description
Discussed leadership staff deyelopment
Line Item Account
101 1420 4370 225 00
225 00
225 00
Lietz Marsha 225 00
225 00
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Amount
LINDEMEIER ERIK
LINDERIK LINDEMEIER ERIK
Ck 138883 12 24 08
Iny 121908
Line Item Date
12 19 08
12 19 08
Iny 121908 Total
Line Item Description
Fall 13 games @ 22 50
Summer 46 games @ 22 50
Line Item Account
101 1767 4300
101 1766 4300
292 50
1 035 00
1 327 50
Ck 138883 Total 1 327 50
LINDERIK LINDEMEIER ERIK 1 327 50
LINDEMEIER ERIK 1 327 50
LITTFIN MARK
LITTMARK LITTFIN MARK
Ck 138764 12 11 08
Iny 120408
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 04 08 Reimbursement for food
Iny 120408 Total
Line Item Account
10 1 1220 43 70 24 54
24 54
Ck 138764 Total 24 54
LITTMARK LITTFIN MARK 24 54
LITTFIN MARK 24 54
LUNDGREN BROS CONSTRUCTION
LUNBRO LUNDGREN BROS CONSTRUCTION
Ck 138698 12 04 08
Iny 120308
Line Item Date
12 03 08
Iny 120308 Total
Line Item Description
AsbuiIt Escrow 6681 Amberwood Ln
Line Item Account
815 8226 2024 1 500 00
1 500 00
Ck 138698 Total 1 500 00
Ck 138830
InY 121708
Line Item Date
12 17 08
12 17 08
12 17 08
Iny 121708 Total
12 18 08
Line Item Description
AsBuiIt Escrow 6965 Lake Harrison Circle
AsBuiIt Escrow 6860 Lake Harrison Circle
AsBuiIt Escrow 6945 Lake Harrison Circle
Line Item Account
815 8226 2024
815 8226 2024
815 8226 2024
1 500 00
1 500 00
1 500 00
4 500 00
Ck 138830 Total 4 500 00
LUNBRO LUNDGREN BROS CONSTRUCTION 6 000 00
LUNDGREN BROS CONSTRUCTION 6 000 00
Lux of Bloomington
LuxofBlo Lux of Bloomington
Ck 138699 12 04 08
Inv 1015868
Line Item Date
1 1 15 08
Line Item Description
24 pk bags vacuum cleaner bags
Line Item Account
101 1170 4150 37 28
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Ck 138699 Total
LuxofBlo
Lux of Bloomington
Lux of Bloomington
MACQUEEN EQUIPMENT
MACEQU MACQUEEN EQUIPMENT
Ck 138700 12 04 08
Iny 809023
Line Item Date
11 14 08
Iny 809023 Total
Iny 809024
Line Item Date
11 14 08
Iny 809024 Total
Ck 138700 Total
MACEQU
Line Item Description
Knife yalye installation
Line Item Description
Layflat hose and clamp
MACQUEEN EQUIPMENT
MACQUEEN EQUIPMENT
Malecha Trucking Inc
MalTru Malecha Trucking Inc
Ck 138831 12 18 08
Iny 6756
Line Item Date
11 19 08
Iny 6756 Total
Iny 6778
Line Item Date
12 02 08
Iny 6778 Total
Ck 138831 Total
MalTru
Malecha Trucking Inc
Line Item Description
City Maintenance Building
Line Item Description
City Maintenance Building
Malecha Trucking Inc
Martinson Diane
MartDian Martinson Diane
Ck 138672 12 01 08
Iny 120508
Line Item Date
12 01 08
Iny 120508 Total
Ck 138672 Total
MartDian
Line Item Description
Balance of 12 05 08 Caroling
Martinson Diane
Accounts Payable
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Amount
37 28
37 28
37 28
37 28
Line Item Account
701 0000 4551 4 958 80
4 958 80
Line Item Account
701 0000 4150 177 54
177 54
5 136 34
5 136 34
5 136 34
Line Item Account
421 0000 4410 30 118 00
30 118 00
Line Item Account
421 0000 4410 36 190 00
36 190 00
66 308 00
66 308 00
66 308 00
Line Item Account
101 1560 4300 225 00
225 00
225 00
225 00
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MERLINS ACE HARDWARE
MERACE MERLINS ACE HARDWARE
Ck 138765 12 11 08
Iny 113008
Line Item Date
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
Iny 113008 Total
Ck 138765 Total
MERACE
Line Item Description
Misc parts supplies
Misc parts supplies
Misc parts supplies
Misc parts supplies
Misc parts supplies
Misc parts supplies
Misc parts supplies
Misc parts supplies
Misc parts supplies
Misc parts supplies
Misc parts supplies
Misc parts supplies
Misc parts supplies
Misc parts supplies
Misc parts supplies
Misc parts supplies
Misc parts supplies
Misc parts supplies
Misc parts supplies
MERLINS ACE HARDWARE
MERLINS ACE HARDWARE
Metro Leak Detection Inc
MetLea Metro Leak Detection Inc
Ck 138943 12 31 08
Iny 1279
Line Item Date
12 07 08
Iny 1279 Total
Ck 138943 Total
MetLea
Metro Leak Detection Inc
Line Item Description
2008 watermain survey of hydrants
Metro Leak Detection Inc
METROCALL
metroc METROCALL
Ck 138768 12 11 08
Iny R0315834L
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 01 08 Pager Services
12 01 08 Pager Services
12 01 08 Pager Services
12 01 08 Pager Services
Iny R0315834L Total
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
225 00
Line Item Account
101 1310 4140
700 7019 4150
101 1550 4120
701 0000 4120
101 1260 4120
701 0000 4553
101 1220 4290
700 0000 4550
701 0000 4150
701 0000 4140
101 1550 4530
101 1320 4140
701 0000 4551
700 0000 4150
101 1350 4120
101 1370 4350
101 1220 4350
101 1550 4150
700 0000 4140
2 88
5 66
7 90
8 64
8 95
8 99
9 60
12 05
15 72
20 24
24 03
40 76
40 90
43 90
48 20
48 20
50 92
76 20
109 71
583 45
583 45
583 45
583 45
Line Item Account
700 0000 4509 4 800 00
4 800 00
4 800 00
4 800 00
4 800 00
Line Item Account
101 1320 4310
700 0000 4310
701 0000 4310
101 1220 4310
3 76
6 27
6 28
7 25
23 56
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Ck 138768 Total
metroc
METROCALL
METROCALL
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
23 56
23 56
23 56
METROPOLITAN COUNCIL
METC02 METROPOLITAN COUNCIL Account 701 0000 4509
Ck 138767 12 11 08
Iny 887361
Line Item Date
12 03 08
Iny 887361 Total
Ck 138767 Total
METC02
Line Item Description
Wastewater flow for Chan
METROPOLITAN COUNCIL
METROPOLITAN COUNCIL
Metropolitan Council Eny SyCS
metco Metropolitan Council Eny Svcs Account
Ck 138766 12 11 08
Iny 113008
Line Item Date
11 30 08
11 30 08
Iny 113008 Total
Ck 138766 Total
metco
Line Item Description
Noyember SAC Monthly Report
Noyember SAC Monthly Report
Metropolitan Council Env Svcs
Metropolitan Council Env Svcs
Miller Bethany
MilIBeth Miller Bethany
Ck 138832 12 18 08
Iny 121008
Line Item Date
12 10 08
Iny 121008 Total
Ck 138832 Total
MilIBeth
Miller Bethany
Line Item Account
701 0000 4509 108 880 32
108 880 32
108 880 32
108 880 32
108 880 32
101 1250 3816
Line Item Account
101 1250 3816
701 0000 2023
1 095 00
10 950 00
9 855 00
9 855 00
9 855 00
9 855 00
Line Item Description
Mileage Reimbursement Sales Use Tax
Miller Bethany
MINGER CONSTRUCTION
MINGER MINGER CONSTRUCTION
Ck 138769 12 11 08
Iny 2029
Line Item Date
11 07 08
Iny 2029 Total
Line Item Description
New Public Works Building
Line Item Account
101 1130 4370 81 90
81 90
81 90
81 90
81 90
Line Item Account
421 0000 4410 10 980 00
10 980 00
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Iny 2035
Line Item Date
11 30 08
Iny 2035 Total
Ck 138769 Total
Ck 138884
Iny 2047
Line Item Date
12 18 08
Iny 2047 Total
Ck 138884 Total
MINGER
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
Line Item Description
New Public Works Building
Line Item Account
421 0000 4410 14 152 00
14 152 00
25 132 00
12 24 08
Line Item Description
PW Bldg link belt backhoe dozer
Line Item Account
421 0000 4410 366 18
366 18
366 18
MINGER CONSTRUCTION 25 498 18
MINGER CONSTRUCTION 25 498 18
MINNESOTA DEPTN OF AGRICULTURE
MNAGR MINNESOTA DEPTN OF AGRICULTURE
Ck 138885 12 24 08
Iny 122308
Line Item Date
12 23 08
12 23 08
12 23 08
12 23 08
Iny 122308 Total
Ck 138885 Total
MNAGR
Line Item Description
B Morse non commercial pesticide applic
D Schmieg non commercial pesticide appl
1 Chalupsky non commercial pesticide ap
C Eiler non commercial pesticide ap
Line Item Account
101 1550 4370
101 1550 4370
101 1550 4370
101 1550 4370
10 00
10 00
10 00
10 00
40 00
40 00
MINNESOTA DEPTN OF AGRICULTURE 40 00
MINNESOTA DEPTN OF AGRICULTURE 40 00
MINNESOTA LIFE
MNLIFE MINNESOTA LIFE
Ck 138886 12 24 08
Iny 121508
Line Item Date
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
Line Item Description
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
Line Item Account
210 0000 2011
101 1430 4040
720 7201 4040
720 7202 4040
10 1 1700 4040
101 1170 4040
101 1530 4040
101 1210 4040
210 0000 4040
101 1600 4040
101 1520 4040
720 0000 4040
700 0000 2011
701 0000 2011
101 1160 4040
101 1220 4040
101 1130 4040
101 1370 4040
0 17
3 90
5 04
5 04
5 09
12 00
12 48
14 64
15 84
20 35
23 04
28 56
30 30
30 30
31 44
31 56
40 87
42 89
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MN CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT CTR
MNCHIL MN CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT CTR
Ck 138701 12 04 08
Iny
Line Item Date
12 02 08
12 02 08
Iny Total
CITY OF CHANHAS
User danielIe
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
12 15 08
Iny 121508 Total
Ck 138886 Total
MNLIFE
MINNESOTA LIFE
Ck 138701 Total
Ck 138833
Iny
Line Item Date
12 16 08
12 16 08
Iny Total
Ck 138833 Total
Ck 13 8944
Iny
Line Item Date
12 30 08
12 30 08
Iny Total
Ck 138944 Total
MNCHIL
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
January 2009 Life Insurance
Amount
59 43
68 16
70 02
71 91
86 70
104 76
107 88
116 40
482 86
1 521 63
701 0000 4040
101 1120 4040
101 1420 4040
700 0000 4040
101 1310 4040
101 1550 4040
101 1320 4040
101 1250 4040
101 0000 2011
1 521 63
MINNESOTA LIFE 1 521 63
1 521 63
Line Item Description
Pay Date 12 5 08 Case ID 001472166101
Pay Date 12 5 08 Case ID 001472166101
Line Item Account
700 0000 2006
701 0000 2006
125 46
232 63
358 09
358 09
12 18 08
Line Item Description
Pay Date 12 19 08 Case ID 001472166101
Pay Date 12 19 08 Case ID 001472166101
Line Item Account
700 0000 2006
701 0000 2006
163 45
194 64
358 09
358 09
12 31 08
Line Item Description
Paydate 1 2 09 Case ID 001472166101
Paydate 1 2 09 Case ID 001472166101
Line Item Account
701 0000 2006
700 0000 2006
179 04
179 05
358 09
358 09
MN CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT CTR 1 074 27
MN CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT CTR 1 074 27
MN DEPT OF HEALTH
MNHEAL MN DEPT OF HEALTH Account 700 0000 4509
Ck 138945 12 31 08
Iny 123008
Line Item Date
12 30 08
Iny 123008 Total
Line Item Description
Water supply system operator renewal app
Line Item Account
700 0000 4509 23 00
23 00
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Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Ck 138945 Total
Amount
23 00
MNHEAL MN DEPT OF HEALTH 23 00
MN DEPT OF HEALTH 23 00
MN DEPT OF LABOR AND INDUSTRY
mnlabo MN DEPT OF LABOR AND INDUSTRY Account 101 1250 3818
Ck 138770 12 11 08
Iny 113008
Line Item Date Line Item Descriotion
11 30 08 Noy Monthly Bldg Surcharge Report
11 30 08 Noy Monthly Bldg Surcharge Report
Iny 113008 Total
Line Item Account
101 1250 3818
101 0000 2022
56 07
2 803 74
2 747 67
Ck 138770 Total 2 747 67
Ck 138771 12 11 08
Iny B42351R149362I
Line Item Date Line Item Descriotion
11 25 08 Boiler Pressure Vessel Registration
Iny B42351R149362I Total
Line Item Account
101 1370 4440 50 00
50 00
Ck 138771 Total 50 00
mnlabo MN DEPT OF LABOR AND INDUSTRY 2 797 67
MN DEPT OF LABOR AND INDUSTRY 2 797 67
MN NCPERS LIFE INSURANCE
NCPERS MN NCPERS LIFE INSURANCE
Ck 138706 12 04 08
Iny
Line Item Date
12102 08
12102 08
12 02 08
Iny Total
Line Item Descriotion
PR Batch 405 122008 NCPERS life insurance
PR Batch 405 122008 NCPERS life insurance
PR Batch 405 122008 NCPERS life insurance
Line Item Account
700 0000 2011
701 0000 2011
101 0000 2011
1 60
1 60
12 80
16 00
Ck 138706 Total 16 00
Ck 138952
Iny
Line Item Date
12130108
12 30 08
12 30 08
Iny Total
12 31 08
Line Item Descriotion
PR Batch 402 1 2009 NCPERS life insurance
PR Batch 402 1 2009 NCPERS life insurance
PR Batch 402 1 2009 NCPERS life insurance
Line Item Account
701 0000 2011
700 0000 2011
101 0000 2011
1 60
1 61
12 79
16 00
Ck 138952 Total 16 00
NCPERS MN NCPERS LIFE INSURANCE 32 00
MN NCPERS LIFE INSURANCE 32 00
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MN Pollution Control Agency
MNPOL MN Pollution Control Agency
Ck 138702 12 04 08
Inv 112608
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 26 08 C Wallis Class SD test
Inv 112608 Total
Ck 138702 Total
MNPOL
MN Pollution Control Agency
MN Pollution Control Agency
MN VALLEY ELECTRIC COOP
MVEC MN VALLEY ELECTRIC COOP
Ck 138704 12 04 08
Inv 112108
Line Item Date
ll 21 08
11 21 08
11 21 08
Inv 112108 Total
Ck 138704 Total
Ck 138773
Inv 112608
Line Item Date
11 26 08
11 26 08
11 26 08
11 26 08
Jnv 112608 Total
Ck 138773 Total
Ck 138836
Inv 120808
Line Item Date
12 08 08
12 08 08
Inv 120808 Total
Ck 138836 Total
Ck 138949
Inv 122208
Line Item Date
12 22 08
12 22 08
12 22 08
Inv 122208 Total
Ck 138949 Total
MVEC
Line Item Description
November electric bill
November electric bill
November electric bill
12 11 08
Line Item Description
November electric bill
November electric bill
November electric bill
November electric bill
12 18 08
Line Item Description
Dec bill Bluff Crk Audubon Rd
Dec bill Bluff Crk Blvd Lights
12 31 08
Line Item Description
Dec 2008 electric bill
Dec 2008 electric bill
Dec 2008 electric bill
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
Line Item Account
701 0000 4370 23 00
23 00
23 00
23 00
23 00
Line Item Account
101 1600 4320
701 0000 4320
10 1 1350 4320
10 44
98 13
582 76
691 33
691 33
Line Item Account
101 1600 4320
700 0000 4320
701 0000 4320
101 1350 4320
23 48
200 31
284 02
3 783 62
4 291 43
4 291 43
Line Item Account
101 1350 4320
101 1350 4320
28 47
25 I 77
280 24
280 24
Line Item Account
101 1600 4320
701 0000 4320
101 1350 4320
9 37
106 60
583 85
699 82
699 82
MN VALLEY ELECTRIC COOP 5 962 82
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Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 0 1 0 2 0 9 0 8 32
MN VALLEY ELECTRIC COOP
Amount
5 962 82
MOORE MEDICAL
MOOMED MOORE MEDICAL
Ck 138946 12 31 0 8
Inv 8Q95Q925EI
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 15 0 8 Safety Plus PF Glv Speedblock Start Pac
Inv 8Q95Q925EI Total
Line Item Account
101 1220 4130 199 82
99 82
299 82 1
299 82
Ck 138946 Total
MOOMED MOORE MEDICAL
MOORE MEDICAL
MOORE ROBERT
UB OOI70 MOORE ROBERT
Ck 138850 12 18 0 8
Inv
Line Item Date
12 16 0 8
12 16 0 8
12 16 0 8
12 16 0 8
Inv Total
Line Item Description
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
Line Item Account
70 0 0 0 0 0 20 20
720 0 0 0 0 20 20
70 1 0 0 0 0 20 20
70 0 0 0 0 0 20 20
1 97
8 0 0
84 40
218 01
3 12 38
Ck 138850 Total 312 38
UB OOI70 MOORE ROBERT 312 38
3 MOORE ROBERT
MOTION INDUSTRIES INC
MOTIND MOTION INDUSTRIES INC
Ck 138887 12 24 0 8
Inv MN29377892
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 10 0 8 Isonic Valve Pneumatic valves
Inv MN29377892 Totm
Line Item Account
70 0 70 19 4550 293 33
293 33
33
293 33
t 33
Ck 138887 Total
MOTIND MOTION INDUSTRIES INC
MOTION INDUSTRIES INC
MOTOROLA
MOTORO MOTOROLA
Ck 138834 12 18 0 8
Inv 1370 890 1
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 0 3 0 8 Chan Fire Dept
Inv 1370 890 1 Total
Line Item Account
10 1 1220 4531 j 1 10
6 811 10
I 6 811 10 Ck 138834 Total
P g 4j 338
CITY OF CHANHAS
User danielle
MOTORO
MOTOROLA
MSRS
MSRS MSRS
Ck 138703
Iny
Line Item Date
12 02 08
12102 08
12102 08
12 02 08
12102 08
12 02 08
12102 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12102 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12102 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12102 08
12102 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12102 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12102 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12102 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
Iny Total
Ck 138703 Total
Ck 138835
Iny
Line Item Date
12 16 08
12 16 08
12 16 08
12 16 08
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
MOTOROLA
12 04 08
Line Item Description
PR Batch 405 122008 Post Health 05 Emplr
PR Batch 405 12 2008 Post Health 05 Emplr NO FICA
PR Batch 405 122008 Post Health 3 Emplr
PR Batch 405 12 2008 Post Health 3 Emplr
PR Batch 405 122008 Post Health 1 Emplr NO FICA
PR Batch 405 122008 Post Health 05 Emplr
PR Batch 405 122008 Post Health 05 Emplr
PR Batch 405 122008 Ret Health 5
PR Batch 405 122008 Post Health 05 Emplr
PR Batch 405 122008 Post Health I Emplr
PR Batch 405 12 2008 Post Health I Emplr
PR Batch 405 122008 Ret Health 3
PR Batch 405 122008 Ret Health 3
PR Batch 405 122008 Post Health 1 Emplr
PR Batch 405 122008 Post Health 1 Emplr
PR Batch 405 122008 Post Health 2 Emplr
PR Batch 405 12 2008 Post Health 2 Emplr
PR Batch 405 122008 Ret Health 5
PR Batch 405 12 2008 Ret Health 5
PR Batch 405 122008 Ret Health 5 NO FICA
PR Batch 405 122008 Post Health 05 Emplr
PR Batch 405 122008 Ret Health 5
PR Batch 405 12 2008 Ret Health 1
PR Batch 405 122008 Post Health 5 Emplr
PR Batch 405 122008 Post Health 3 Emplr
PR Batch 405 12 2008 Ret Health 1
PR Batch 405 12 2008 Ret Health I NO FICA
PR Batch 405 122008 Post Health 2 Emplr
PR Batch 405 122008 Post Health 1 Emplr
PR Batch 405 122008 Post Health 7 Emplr
PR Batch 405 12 2008 Ret Health 1
PR Batch 405 12 2008 Ret Health 1
PR Batch 405 122008 Ret Health 2
PR Batch 405 122008 Ret Health 2
PR Batch 405 122008 Ret Health 5
PR Batch 405 122008 Ret Health 5
PR Batch 405 122008 Ret Health 3
PR Batch 405 12 2008 Ret Health 1
PR Batch 405 122008 Ret Health 2
PR Batch 405 122008 Ret Health 7
Line Item Account
210 0000 2016
101 0000 2016
701 0000 2016
700 0000 2016
10 1 0000 20 16
700 0000 2016
701 0000 2016
210 0000 2016
720 0000 2016
210 0000 2016
720 0000 2016
700 0000 2016
701 0000 2016
701 0000 2016
700 0000 2016
700 0000 2016
701 0000 2016
700 0000 2016
701 0000 2016
10 1 0000 20 16
101 0000 2016
720 0000 2016
210 0000 2016
10 1 0000 20 16
10 1 0000 20 16
720 0000 2016
101 0000 2016
101 0000 2016
101 0000 2016
10 1 0000 20 16
701 0000 2016
700 0000 2016
700 0000 2016
701 0000 2016
101 0000 2016
10 1 0000 20 16
10 1 0000 20 16
101 0000 2016
101 0000 2016
101 0000 2016
12 18 08
Line Item Description
PR Batch 419 122008 Post Health 05 Emplr NO FICA
PR Batch 419 122008 Post Health 05 Emplr
PR Batch 419 12 2008 Post Health 3 Emplr
PR Batch 419 12 2008 Post Health 3 Emplr
Line Item Account
101 0000 2016
210 0000 2016
701 0000 2016
700 0000 2016
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
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6 t11 10
6 811 10
0 07
0 14
0 28
0 29
0 40
0 54
0 54
0 82
1 43
1 50
2 05
3 71
3 71
4 16
4 62
6 60
6 86
7 05
7 09
9 90
11 07
18 71
i19 63
0 44
2 20
Q6 88
I
Q7 51
32 00
6 35
f1 82
3 94
i0 88
93 96
97 55 Iii 4 56
2 7 28
2 0 43
475 40
480 55
516 68
2 8r60 2 829 60
0 14
0 26
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Amount
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Post Health 1 Emplr NO FICA 101 0000 2016 0 40
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 122008 Post Health 05 Emplr 701 0000 2016 0 54
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 122008 Post Health 05 Emplr 700 0000 2016 0 56
12 16 08 PR Batch 419122008 Post Health 05 Emplr 720 0000 2016 1 43
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 122008 Post Health 1 Emplr 210 0000 2016 1 50
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Post Health 1 Emplr 720 0000 2016 1 97
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 122008 Ret Health 5 210 0000 2016 3 23
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Post Health 1 Emplr 701 0000 2016 3 33
12 16 08 PR Batch 419122008 Ret Health 3 700 0000 2016 3 71
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Ret Health 3 701 0000 2016 3 71
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Post Health 1 Emplr 700 0000 2016 4 73
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Post Health 2 Emplr 700 0000 2016 6 42
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Post Health 2 Emplr 701 0000 2016 6 51
12 16 08 PRBatch41912 2008 RetHealth 5 700 0000 2016 7 05
12 16 08 PR Batch 419122008 Ret Health 5 701 0000 2016 7 09
12 16 08 PR Batch 419122008 Ret Health 5 NO FICA 101 0000 2016 9 54
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Post Health 05 Emplr 101 0000 2016 11 31
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Ret Health 5 720 0000 2016 18 71
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Ret Health 1 210 0000 2016 19 63
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Post Health 5 Emplr 10 1 0000 20 16 20 44
12 16 08 PR Batch 419122008 Post Health 3 Emp1r 101 0000 2016 22 20
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Ret Health 1 720 0000 2016 25 87
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 122008 Ret Health l NO FICA 101 0000 2016 27 51
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Post Health 2 Emplr 10 1 0000 20 16 31 99
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Post Health 1 Emp1r 101 0000 2016 36 64
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Post Health 7 Emplr 101 0000 2016 41 82
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Ret Health 1 701 0000 2016 43 57
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 122008 Ret Health 1 700 0000 2016 61 69
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Ret Health 2 700 0000 2016 91 83
12 16 08 PR Batch 419122008 Ret Health 2 701 0000 2016 92 68
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Ret Health 5 101 0000 2016 148 03
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 122008 Ret Health 5 101 0000 2016 267 28
12 16 08 PR Batch 419122008 Ret Health 3 10 1 0000 20 16 290 43
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Ret Health 1 101 0000 2016 479 15
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Ret Health 2 10 1 0000 20 16 480 55
12 16 08 PR Batch 419 12 2008 Ret Health 7 101 0000 2016 546 68
Iny Total 2 820 70
Ck 138835 Total 2 820 70
Ck 138914 12 24 08
Iny
Line Item Date Line Item Description Line Item Account
12 24 08 PR Batch 491 12 2008 600 HR PAYOUT 720 0000 2016 564 76
12 24 08 PR Batch 491 12 2008 600 HR PAYOUT 700 0000 2016 718 67
12 24 08 PR Batch 491 122008600 HR PAYOUT 701 0000 2016 718 67
12 24 08 PR Batch 491 12 2008 600 HR PAYOUT 210 0000 2016 877 30
12 24 08 PR Batch 491 122008600 HR PAYOUT 101 0000 2016 19 527 38
Iny Total 22 406 78
Ck 138914 Total 22 406 78
Ck 138947 12 31 08
Iny
Line Item Date Line Item Description Line Item Account
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Post Health 05 Emplr NO FICA 101 0000 2016 0 14
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Post Health 05 Emplr 210 0000 2016 0 26
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 I 2009 Post Health 3 Emplr 701 0000 2016 0 28
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 I 2009 Post Health 3 Emplr 700 0000 2016 0 29
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Post Health 1 Emplr NO FICA 101 0000 2016 0 40
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Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Post Health 05 Emplr 700 0000 2016 0 53
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 I 2009 Post Health 05 Emplr 701 0000 2016 0 53
12130 08 PR Batch 402 I 2009 Post Health 05 Emplr 720 0000 2016 1 43
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 I 2009 Post Health I Emplr 210 0000 2016 1 50
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Post Health I Emplr 720 0000 2016 1 97
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Post Health 1 Emplr 701 0000 2016 2 66
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 5 210 0000 2016 3 23
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 3 700 0000 2016 3 71
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 3 701 0000 2016 3 72
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Post Health 1 Emplr 700 0000 2016 4 21
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 5 700 0000 2016 7 05
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 5 701 0000 2016 7 07
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Post Health 2 Emplr 701 0000 2016 7 49
12130 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Post Health 2 Emplr 700 0000 2016 9 41
12130 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 5 NO FICA 10 1 0000 20 16 9 54
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Post Health 05 Emplr 101 0000 2016 11 80
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 5 720 0000 2016 18 71
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 1 210 0000 2016 19 63
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Post Health 5 Emplr 101 0000 2016 20 44
12130 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Post Health 3 Emplr 101 0000 2016 24 49
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 1 720 0000 2016 25 86
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health l NO FICA 10 1 0000 20 16 27 51
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Post Health 1 Emplr 10 1 0000 20 16 33 17
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 1 701 0000 2016 34 67
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Post Health 7 Emplr 101 0000 2016 41 82
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Post Health 2 Emplr 10 1 0000 2016 45 23
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 1 700 0000 2016 54 90
12130 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 2 701 0000 2016 98 17
12130 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 2 700 0000 2016 122 83
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 5 101 0000 2016 153 80
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 5 10 1 0000 20 16 267 28
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 3 101 0000 2016 320 32
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 1 101 0000 2016 433 74
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 7 10 1 0000 20 16 546 68
12 30 08 PR Batch 402 1 2009 Ret Health 2 101 0000 2016 591 54
Inv Total 2 958 01
Ck 138947 Total 2 958 01
MSRS MSRS 31 015 09
MSRS 31 015 09
MTI DISTRIBUTING INC
MTIDIS MTI DISTRIBUTING INC
Ck 138948 12 31 08
Inv 64791200
Line Item Date Line Item Description Line Item Account
12 16 08 Tire 101 1550 4120 1 065 00
Inv 64791200 Total 1 065 00
Inv 64791900
Line Item Date Line Item Description Line Item Account
12 16 08 Misc parts supplies 101 1550 4120 1 096 35
Inv 64791900 Total 1 096 35
Inv 64791901
Line Item Date Line Item Description Line Item Account
12 16 08 Tire 101 1550 4120 374 92
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Iny 64791901 Total
Amount
374 92
Ck 138948 Total 2 536 27
MTIDIS MTI DISTRIBUTING INC 2 536 27
MTI DISTRIBUTING INC 2 536 27
Municipal Emergency Services
MunEme Municipal Emergency Services
Ck 138772 12 1 1 08
Iny 71314SNV
Line Item Date Line Item Description
I 1 26 08 chain saw blades
Iny 71314SNV Total
Line Item Account
101 1220 4530 531 99
531 99
Ck 138772 Total 531 99
MunEme Municipal Emergency Services 531 99
Municipal Emergency Services 531 99
MX Logic
MXLog MX Logic
Ck 138837 12 18 08
Iny INV230975
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 01 08 SPAMlAnti Virus External Filter Srv Dec
Iny INV230975 Total
Line Item Account
101 1160 4300 97 00
97 00
Ck 138837 Total 97 00
MXLog MX Logic 97 00
MX Logic 97 00
NAPA AUTO TRUCK PARTS
NAPA NAPA AUTO TRUCK PARTS
Ck 138950 12 31 08
Iny 378471
Line Item Date
12 23 08
Iny 378471 Total
Line Item Description
Hose End
Line Item Account
101 1320 4140 68 59
68 59
Line Item Account
101 1250 4140 101 52
101 52
Line Item Account
101 1170 4140 39 88
39 88
Line Item Account
101 1170 4140 15 27
Iny 378846
Line Item Date
12 26 08
Iny 378846 Total
Line Item Description
Tie Rod End Outer
Iny 378889
Line Item Date
12 26 08
Iny 378889 Total
Line Item Description
Spark Plug Wire Set
Iny 378892
Line Item Date
12 26 08
Line Item Description
Spark Plug
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Ck 138950 Total
NAPA
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
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Amount
15 27
225 26
NAPA AUTO TRUCK PARTS 225 26
NAPA AUTO TRUCK PARTS 225 26
Nationwide Retirement Solution
NATRET Nationwide Retirement Solution
Ck 138705 12 04 08
Iny
Line Item Date
12 02 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
12 02 08
Iny Total
Ck 138705 Total
Ck 138838
Iny
Line Item Date
12 16 08
12 16 08
12 16 08
12 16 08
Iny Total
Ck 138838 Total
Ck 138951
Iny
Line Item Date
12 30 08
12 30 08
12 30 08
12 30 08
Iny Total
Ck 138951 Total
NATRET
Line Item Description
PR Batch 405 122008 Nationwide Retirement
PR Batch 405 122008 Nationwide Retirement
PR Batch 405 122008 Nationwide Retirement
PR Batch 405 122008 Nationwide Retirement
Line Item Account
720 0000 2009
700 0000 2009
701 0000 2009
10 1 0000 2009
50 00
369 93
387 48
3 462 19
4 269 60
4 269 60
12 1 8 08
Line Item Description
PR Batch 419 12 2008 Nationwide Retirement
PR Batch 419 122008 Nationwide Retirement
PR Batch 419122008 Nationwide Retirement
PR Batch 419122008 Nationwide Retirement
Line Item Account
720 0000 2009
701 0000 2009
700 0000 2009
101 0000 2009
50 00
192 98
278 24
3 473 38
3 994 60
3 994 60
12 31 08
Line Item Description
PR Batch 402 I 2009 Nationwide Retirement
PR Batch 40212009 Nationwide Retirement
PR Batch 402 1 2009 Nationwide Retirement
PR Batch 402 1 2009 Nationwide Retirement
Line Item Account
720 0000 2009
701 0000 2009
700 0000 2009
IO 1 0000 2009
50 00
181 92
263 73
3 498 95
3 994 60
3 994 60
Nationwide Retirement Solution 12 258 80
Nationwide Retirement Solution 12 258 80
NEW COUNTRY REMODELING
NEWCOU NEW COUNTRY REMODELING
Ck 138953 12 3 lI08
Iny 123008
Line Item Date
12130 08
Iny 123008 Total
Ck 138953 Total
NEWCOU
Line Item Description
Erosion Escrow 102 Sandy Hook Road
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 250 00
250 00
250 00
NEW COUNTRY REMODELING 250 00
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Newman Michelle L
NewmMich Newman Michelle L
Ck 138707 12 04 08
Inv 102
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 01 08 Zumba 4 week session
Inv 102 Total
Ck 138707 Total
NewmMich Newman Michelle L
Newman Michelle L
NEXTEL
NEXTEL NEXTEL
Ck 138708 12 04 08
Inv 603663316084
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 22 08 November cellular bill
11 22 08 November cellular bill
11 22 08 November cellular bill
11 22 08 November cellular bill
11 22 08 November cellular bill
11 22 08 November cellular bill
11 22 08 November cellular bill
11 22 08 November cellular bill
11 22 08 November cellular bill
11 22 08 November cellular bill
11 22 08 November cellular bill
11 22 08 November cellular bill
11 22 08 November cellular bill
11 22 08 November cellular bill
11 22 08 November cellular bill
11 22 08 November cellular bill
11 22 08 November cellular bill
Inv 603663316084 Totm
Ck 138708 Total
Ck 138954 12 31 08
Inv 603663316085
Line Item Date
12 18 08
12 18 08
12 18 08
12 18 08
12 18 08
12 18 08
12 18 08
12 18 08
12 18 08
12 18 08
12 18 08
12 18 08
12 18 08
12 18 08
12 18 08
Line Item Description
Dec 2008 Cellular Services
Dec 2008 Cellular Services
Dec 2008 Cellular Services
Dec 2008 Cellular Services
Dec 2008 Cellular Services
Dec 2008 Cellular Services
Dec 2008 Cellular Services
Dec 2008 Cellular Services
Dec 2008 Cellular Services
Dec 2008 Cellular Services
Dec 2008 Cellular Services
Dec 2008 Cellular Services
Dec 2008 Cellular Services
Dec 2008 Cellular Services
Dec 2008 Cellular Services
Accounts Payable
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Amount
250 00
Line Item Account
101 1539 4300 312 00
312 00
312 00
312 00
312 00
Line Item Account
101 1530 4310
101 1170 4310
720 0000 4310
101 1130 4310
101 1260 4310
101 1160 4310
101 1520 4310
101 1550 4310
700 0000 4310
701 0000 4310
101 1370 4310
101 1220 4310
101 1310 4310
101 1320 4310
10 1 1600 4310
101 1250 4310
101 1120 4310
16 02
16 23
33 16
38 20
48 25
63 40
108 43
133 50
141 03
141 03
150 69
190 14
200 35
202 48
247 55
261 67
266 34
2 258 47
2 258 47
Line Item Account
101 1170 4310
101 1530 4310
101 1600 4310
720 0000 4310
101 1260 4310
101 1160 4310
101 1130 4310
101 1520 4310
101 1550 4310
101 1370 4310
101 1220 4310
101 1310 4310
700 0000 4310
701 0000 4310
101 1320 4310
20 08
20 08
30 32
42 11
52 07
73 90
104 39
126 46
152 75
175 88
209 99
225 87
226 52
226 52
234 74
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12 18 08 Dee 2008 Cellular Services
12 18108 Dee 2008 Cellular Services
InY 603663316085 Total
101 1250 4310
10 1 1120 4310
Amount
306 25
308 00
2 535 93
Ck 138954 Total 2 535 93
NEXTEL NEXTEL 4 794 40
NEXTEL 4 794 40
Norway Builders
norbui Norway Builders
Ck 138955 12 31 08
Iny 123008
Line Item Date
12 30108
Iny 123008 Total
Line Item Description
Erosion Escrow 190 Gray Fox Lane
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 250 00
250 00
Ck 138955 Total 250 00
norbui Norway Builders 250 00
Norway Builders 250 00
O REILLY AUTOMOTIVE INC
OREAUT O REILLY AUTOMOTIVE INC
Ck 138777 12 1 1 08
Iny 112808
Line Item Date
1 1 28 08
1 1 28 08
1 1 28 08
I 1 28 08
1 1 28 08
I 1 28 08
I 1 28 08
Iny 112808 Total
Line Item Description
Misc supplies parts
Misc supplies parts
Misc supplies parts
Misc supplies parts
Misc supplies parts
Misc supplies parts
Misc supplies parts
Line Item Account
101 1320 4140
101 1170 4140
101 1220 4140
101 1550 4120
700 0000 4 I 40
101 1550 4140
101 1320 4120
49 54
5 63
15 14
37 06
42 08
102 98
365 58
518 93
Ck 138777 Total 518 93
OREAUT O REILLY AUTOMOTIVE INC 518 93
O REILLY AUTOMOTIVE INC 518 93
OAKRIDGE BUILDERS
OAKBUI OAKRIDGE BUILDERS
Ck 138956 12 31 08
Iny 123008
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 30108 Erosion Escrow 451 Mission Hills Ct
Iny 123008 Total
Line Item Account
8 I 5 8202 2024 500 00
500 00
Ck 138956 Total 500 00
OAKBUI OAKRIDGE BUILDERS 500 00
OAKRIDGE BUILDERS 500 00
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Amount
OEHME PAUL
OEHMPAUL OEHME PAUL
Ck 138709 12 04 08
Iny 112008
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 20 08 11 19 11 20 MPW A Conference
Iny 112008 Total
Line Item Account
101 1310 4370 59 67
59 67
Ck 138709 Total 59 67
OEHMPAUL OEHME PAUL 59 67
OEHME PAUL 59 67
Oertel Architects
Oer Arc Oertel Architects
Ck 138839 12 18 08
InY 2
Line Item Date
11 30 08
Iny 2 Total
Line Item Description
Public works project
Line Item Account
421 0000 4300 13 975 00
13 975 00
Ck 138839 Total 13 975 00
OerArc Oertel Architects 13 975 00
Oertel Architects 13 975 00
OLSON CONSTRUCTION EXCAVATION
OLSCON OLSON CONSTRUCTION EXCA VA TION
Ck 138775 12 11 08
Iny 112408
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 24 08 7901 Park Place
Iny 112408 Total
Line Item Account
421 0000 4410 13 835 68
13 835 68
Ck 138775 Total 13 835 68
Ck 138888 12 24 08
Iny 121108
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 11 08 7901 Park Place
Iny 121108 Total
Line Item Account
421 0000 4410 10 381 65
10 381 65
Ck 138888 Total 10 381 65
OLSCON OLSON CONSTRUCTION EXCAVATION 24 217 33
OLSON CONSTRUCTION EXCAVATION 24 217 33
Ondercin Kristin
ondekris Ondercin Kristin
Ck 138710 12 04 08
Iny 120308
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 03 08 Erosion Escrow 3080 Dartmouth Dr
Iny 120308 Total
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 500 00
500 00
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Ck 138710 Total
Amount
500 00
ondekris Ondercin Kristin 500 00
Ondercin Kristin 500 00
ONVOY
ONVOY ONVOY Account 101 1160 4320
Ck 138776 12 11 08
Iny 81202009078
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 01 08 Leyel 3 Site Excess Disk Space
Iny 81202009078 Total
Line Item Account
101 1160 4320 351 85
351 85
Ck 138776 Total 351 85
ONVOY ONVOY 351 85
ONVOY 351 85
PARROTT CONTRACTING INC
parcon PARROTT CONTRACTING INC
Ck 138778 12 11 08
InY 08 1575
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 08 08 CMP replacement Sunrise Hills Estates
InY 08 1575 Total
Line Item Account
720 0000 4300 52 769 35
52 769 35
Iny 08 1578
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 08 08 forcemain repair Laredo
InY 08 1578 Total
Line Item Account
701 0000 4551 3 034 00
3 034 00
InY 081574
Line Item Date
12 08 08
Iny 081574 Total
Line Item Description
City Hall Generator Pad
Line Item Account
400 0000 4705 24 020 00
24 020 00
Ck 138778 Total 79 823 35
Ck 138840
InY 081576
Line Item Date
12 08 08
Iny 081576 Total
12 18 08
Line Item Description
Valve repair @ Hunter Dr Fawn Hill Rd
Line Item Account
700 0000 4552 2 844 00
2 844 00
InY 081579
Line Item Date
12 08 08
InY 081579 Total
Line Item Description
WatermainlValye repair 66001 Pipewood C
Line Item Account
700 0000 4552 2 307 00
2 307 00
InY 081580
Line Item Date
12 08 08
InY 081580 Total
Line Item Description
Watermain repair @ W 77th St
Line Item Account
700 0000 4550 2 597 00
2 597 00
Inv 081582
Line Item Date
12 08 08
Line Item Description
Valye repair @ Saratoga Santa Vera
Line Item Account
700 0000 4552 2 844 00
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Inv 081582 Total
Amount
2 844 00
Ck 138840 Total 10 592 00
Ck 138889
Inv 081583
Line Item Date
12 08 08
Inv 081583 Total
12 24 08
Line Item Description
Watermain repair 3531 Maplewood Circle
Line Item Account
700 0000 4550 2 048 00
2 048 00
Ck 138889 Total 2 048 00
PARCON PARROTT CONTRACTING INC 92 463 35
PARROTTCONTRACTINGINC 92 463 35
Parts Plus
parplu Parts Plus
Ck 138890 12 24 08
Inv 038338451
Line Item Date
12 12 08
Inv 038338451
Line Item Description
Super Fast Uret
Total
Line Item Account
700 0000 4140 18 73
18 73
Ck 138890 Total 18 73
parplu Parts Plus 18 73
Parts Plus 18 73
PATRICK CO
PATCO PATRICK CO
Ck 138711 12 04 08
Inv 778550
Line Item Date
11 17 08
Inv 778550 Total
Line Item Description
Dog Pet license tags
Line Item Account
101 1170 4110 517 02
517 02
Ck 138711 Total 517 02
PATCO PATRICK CO 517 02
PATRICK CO 517 02
Peak Heating and Cooling
PeaHea Peak Heating and Cooling
Ck 138891 12 24 08
Inv 122208
Line Item Date
12 22 08
12 22 08
Inv 122208 Total
Line Item Description
Refund permit 2008 02616
Refund permit 2008 02616
Line Item Account
10 1 0000 2022
101 1250 3305
0 45
30 00
30 45
Ck 138891 Total 30 45
PeaHea Peak Heating and Cooling 30 45
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Peak Heating and Cooling
Amount
30 45
Perfect Plumbing Inc
perplu Perfect Plumbing Inc
Ck 138779 12 11 08
Inv 111808
Line Item Date
11 18 08
Inv 111808 Total
Line Item Description
Repair 2373 Hunter Dr Chanhassen
Line Item Account
700 0000 4509 284 00
284 00
Ck 138779 Total 284 00
perplu Perfect Plumbing Inc 284 00
Perfect Plumbing Inc 284 00
PETERSON CYNTHIA
UB 00180 PETERSON CYNTHIA
Ck 138973 12 31 08
Inv
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 31 08 Refund check
Inv Total
Line Item Account
720 0000 2020 8 11
8 11
Ck 138973 Total 8 11
UB 00180 PETERSON CYNTHIA 8 11
PETERSON CYNTHIA 8 11
PLOWSHARESDEVELOPMENTLLC
UB 00176 PLOWSHARES DEVELOPMENT LLC
Ck 138969 12 31 08
Inv
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 31 08 Refund check
Inv Total
Line Item Account
720 0000 2020 8 11
8 11
Ck 138969 Total 8 11
UB 00176 PLOWSHARES DEVELOPMENT LLC 8 11
PLOWSHARESDEVELOPMENTLLC 8 11
Pluth Brad
PlutBrad Pluth Brad
Ck 138892 12 24 08
Inv 122308
Line Item Date
12 23 08
Inv 122308 Total
Line Item Description
Women on Weights Program 4084 105
Line Item Account
101 1539 4300 150 00
150 00
Ck 138892 Total 150 00
PlutBrad Pluth Brad 150 00
Pluth Brad 150 00
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Amount
POMP S TIRE SERVICE INC
POMTIR POMP S TIRE SERVICE INC
Ck 138893 12 24 08
Iny 430855
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 11 08 Ans Tractor TL R3
Iny 430855 Total
Line Item Account
10 1 1550 4120 506 64
506 64
Ck 138893 Total 506 64
POMTIR POMP S TIRE SERVICE INC 506 64
POMP S TIRE SERVICE INC 506 64
POSTMASTER
POST POSTMASTER
Ck 138712 12 04 08
Iny 120108
Line Item Date
12 01 08
Iny 120108 Total
Line Item Description
Chan Fire Dept PO Box Fee Pymt Box 97
Line Item Account
101 1220 4300 42 00
42 00
Ck 138712 Total 42 00
Ck 138713
Iny 120108
Line Item Date
12 01 08
Iny 120108 Total
12 04 08
Line Item Description
City ofChan Box 147 PO Box Fee Pymt
Line Item Account
101 1120 4330 42 00
42 00
Ck 138713 Total 42 00
Ck 138894
Iny 122208
Line Item Date
12 22 08
12 22 08
Iny 122208 Total
12 24 08
Line Item Description
Bulk Postage
Bulk Postage
Line Item Account
700 0000 4330
701 0000 4330
465 71
465 71
931 42
Ck 138894 Total 931 42
POST POSTMASTER 1 015 42
POSTMASTER 1 015 42
POWER SYSTEMS
POWCHA POWER SYSTEMS
Ck 138780 12 11 08
Iny 1356210
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 21 08 Motor
Iny 1356210 Total
Line Item Account
101 1320 4120 988 32
988 32
Ck 138780 Total 988 32
Ck 138841 12 18 08
Iny 1365040
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 03 08 Motor
Line Item Account
101 1320 4140 197 66
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Iny 1365040 Total
Amount
197 66
Ck 138841 Total 197 66
POWCHA POWER SYSTEMS 1 185 98
POWER SYSTEMS 1 185 98
PRIEM RHONDA
PRIERHON PRIEM RHONDA
Ck 138842 12 18 08
Iny 120408
Line Item Date
12 04 08
Iny 120408 Total
Line Item Description
Overpaid
Line Item Account
101 1260 4901 4 00
4 00
Ck 138842 Total 4 00
PRIERHON PRIEM RHONDA 4 00
PRIEM RHONDA 4 00
PRO STAFF
PROSTA PRO STAFF
Ck 138895 12 24 08
Iny 102728899
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 18 08 R Strasburg receptionist hours
Iny 102728899 Total
Line Item Account
101 1112 4020 109 95
109 95
Ck 138895 Total 109 95
PROST A PRO STAFF 109 95
PRO STAFF 109 95
PROTECTION ONE
PROONE PROTECTION ONE Account 101 1540 4300
Ck 138714 12 04 08
Iny 110308
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 03 08 24 Hr Alarm Monitor 11 16 2 15 09 Lake A
Iny 110308 Total
Line Item Account
101 1540 4300 99 05
99 05
Ck 138714 Total 99 05
PROONE PROTECTION ONE 99 05
PROTECTION ONE 99 05
QL T CLS Consumer Lease Ser
QL T CLS QL T CLS Consumer Lease Ser
Ck 138781 12 ll 08
Iny 112808
Line Item Date
11 28 08
11 28 08
Line Item Description
Lease Traditional rotary telephone
Lease Traditional rotary telephone
Line Item Account
700 0000 4310
701 0000 4310
7 11
7 11
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Inv 112808 Total
Amount
14 22
Ck 138781 Total 14 22
QLTCLS QL T CLS Consumer Lease Ser 14 22
QL T CLS Consumer Lease Ser 14 22
Quality Control Integration
qualcon Quality Control Integration
Ck 138673 12 01 08
Inv 311
Line Item Date
12 01 08
Inv 311 Total
Line Item Description
VFD to replace in Well 13
Line Item Account
700 7023 4300 12 354 00
12 354 00
Ck 138673 Total 12 354 00
qualcon Quality Control Integration 12 354 00
Quality Control Integration 12 354 00
QUILL CORPORATION
QUILL QUILL CORPORATION
Ck 138715 12 04 08
Inv 2752720
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 19 08 Misc office supplies
Inv 2752720 Total
Line Item Account
101 1170 4110 177 75
177 75
Inv 2772395
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 20 08 Sealing tape
Inv 2772395 Total
Line Item Account
101 1170 4110 3 43
3 43
Ck 138715 Total 181 18
QUILL QUILL CORPORATION 181 18
QUILL CORPORATION 181 18
QWEST
QWEST QWEST
Ck 138782 12 11 08
Inv 120108
Line Item Date
12 01 08
12 01 08
Inv 120108 Total
Line Item Description
December bill
December bill
Line Item Account
700 0000 4310
701 0000 4310
34 29
34 29
68 58
Ck 138782 Total 68 58
QWEST QWEST 68 58
QWEST 68 58
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Amount
RBM SERVICES INC
RBMSER RBM SERVICES INC
Ck 138716 12 04 08
Iny 13705
Line Item Date
11 30 08
Iny 13705 Total
Line Item Description
Nightly Janitorial City Hall
Line Item Account
101 1170 4350 2 580 09
2 580 09
Iny 13706
Line Item Date
11 30 08
Iny 13706 Total
Line Item Description
NightlWeekend Janitorial Chan Library
Line Item Account
101 1190 4350 2 577 30
2 577 30
Ck 138716 Total 5 157 39
RBMSER RBM SERVICES INC 5 157 39
RBM SERVICES INC 5 157 39
Reliable Office Supplies
RelOff Reliable Office Supplies
Ck 138717 12 04 08
Iny BGK68100
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 20 08 Layendar paper Duracell AA 16 pk batter
Iny BGK681 00 Total
Line Item Account
101 1170 4110 62 73
62 73
Ck 138717 Total 62 73
Ck 138843 12 18 08
Iny BGT33000
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 05 08 White copy paper
Iny BGT33000 Total
Line Item Account
101 1170 4110 182 09
182 09
Ck 138843 Total 182 09
RelOff Reliable Office Supplies 244 82
Reliable Office Supplies 244 82
RELS Title
UB 00168 RELS Title
Ck 138848 12 18 08
Iny
Line Item Date
12 16 08
12 16 08
12 16 08
12 16 08
Iny Total
Line Item Description
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
Line Item Account
700 0000 2020
720 0000 2020
700 0000 2020
701 0000 2020
0 92
3 73
18 31
34 84
57 80
Ck 138848 Total 57 80
UB 00168 RELS Title 57 80
RELS Title 57 80
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Amount
Rhino Marking Protection Sys
RhiMar Rhino Marking Protection Sys
Ck 138957 12 31 08
Iny 30369
Line Item Date
12 10 08
Iny 30369 Total
Line Item Description
Water pipeline decal TriView Test Stati
Line Item Account
700 0000 4550 223 34
223 34
Ck 138957 Total 223 34
RhiMar Rhino Marking Protection Sys 223 34
Rhino Marking Protection Sys 223 34
RICE RICHARD
RICERICH RICE RICHARD
Ck 138958 12 31 08
Iny 122408
Line Item Date
12 24 08
Iny 122408 Total
Line Item Description
Reimbursement for parking MN GOy t IT Sy
Line Item Account
101 1160 4370 20 00
20 00
Ck 138958 Total 20 00
RICERICH RICE RICHARD 20 00
RICE RICHARD 20 00
RICOH
RICOH RICOH
Ck 138783 12 11 08
InY 404146618
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 01 08 Maint Agreement for engineering dept
Inv 404146618 Tot
Line Item Account
101 1310 4530 399 08
399 08
Ck 138783 Total 399 08
RICOH RICOH 399 08
RICOH 399 08
RIDGEDALE YMCA
RIDYMC RIDGEDALE YMCA
Ck 138718 12 04 08
Iny 120108
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 01 08 YMCA Indoor Soccer 2008
Iny 120108 Total
Line Item Account
101 1536 4300 3 796 00
3 796 00
Ck 138718 Total 3 796 00
Ck 138896
Iny 122308
Line Item Date
12 23 08
Iny 122308 Total
12 24 08
Line Item Description
YMCA Basketball 2084 103 104 105
Line Item Account
101 1536 4300 1 970 80
1 970 80
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Ck 138896 Total
Amount
1 970 80
RIDYMC RIDGEDALE YMCA 5 766 80
RIDGEDALE YMCA 5 766 80
RIDGEVIEW MEDICAL CENTER
RIDMED RIDGEVIEW MEDICAL CENTER
Ck 138844 12 18 08
Iny 120808
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 08 08 Noy 2008 Flu Shots
Iny 120808 Total
Line Item Account
101 1220 4300 238 25
238 25
Ck 138844 Total 238 25
RIDMED RIDGEVIEW MEDICAL CENTER 238 25
RIDGEVIEW MEDICAL CENTER 238 25
Road Machinery Supplies
RoaMac Road Machinery Supplies
Ck 138719 12 04 08
Iny S39501
Line Item Date
11 14 08
Iny S39501 Total
Line Item Description
Cartridge
Line Item Account
101 1320 4120 93 63
93 63
Ck 138719 Total 93 63
RoaMac Road Machinery Supplies 93 63
Road Machinery Supplies 93 63
Rob t Flynn Construction
robflyco Rob t Flynn Construction
Ck 138959 12 31 08
Iny 123008
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 30 08 Erosion Escrow 40 Hill Street
Iny 123008 Total
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 250 00
250 00
Ck 138959 Total 250 00
robflyco Rob t Flynn Construction 250 00
Rob t Flynn Construction 250 00
Robert Bealke Industries
RobBealn Robert Bealke Industries
Ck 138897 12 24 08
Iny 121508
Line Item Date
12 15 08
Inv 121508 Total
Line Item Description
Deposit for Dance Party on Ice
Line Item Account
101 1731 4300 200 00
200 00
Ck 138897 Total 200 00
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RobBeaIn Robert Bealke Industries
Amount
200 00
Robert Bealke Industries 200 00
Rolyn Properties
rolpro Rolyn Properties
Ck 138960 12 31 08
Inv 123008
Line Item Date
12 30 08
Inv 123008 Total
Line Item Description
Erosion Escrow 104 Sandy Hook Road
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 500 00
500 00
Ck 138960 Total 500 00
rolpro Rolyn Properties 500 00
Rolyn Properties 500 00
ROSENBERGER III CHARLES
UB 00178 ROSENBERGER III CHARLES
Ck 138971 12 31 08
Inv
Line Item Date
12 31 08
12 31 08
12 31 08
12 31 08
Inv Total
Line Item Description
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
Refund check
Line Item Account
700 0000 2020
720 0000 2020
700 0000 2020
701 0000 2020
0 80
3 22
9 02
17 30
30 34
Ck 138971 Total 30 34
UB 00178 ROSENBERGER III CHARLES 30 34
ROSENBERGER III CHARLES 30 34
ROWEKAMP ASSOCIATES INC
ROWEKA ROWEKAMP ASSOCIATES INC
Ck 138962 12 31 08
Inv 2008172
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 22 08 Training Services Retainer ESRI Mappi
Inv 2008172 Total
Line Item Account
101 1160 4370 4 000 00
4 000 00
Ck 138962 Total 4 000 00
ROWEKA ROWEKAMP ASSOCIATES INC 4 000 00
ROWEKAMP ASSOCIATES INC 4 000 00
RYBAKOV IGOR
RYBAIGOR RYBAKOV IGOR
Ck 138963 12 31 08
Inv 122908
Line Item Date
12 29 08
Inv 122908 Total
Line Item Description
Winter Chess Camp
Line Item Account
101 1530 4300 1 291 50
1 291 50
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Ck 138963 Total
Amount
1 291 50
RYBAIGOR RYBAKOV IGOR 1 291 50
RYBAKOV IGOR 1 291 50
Ryland Homes
rylhom Ryland Homes
Ck 138720 12 04 08
Iny 120308
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 03 08 Asbuilt Escrow 1423 Bethesda Circle
Iny 120308 Total
Line Item Account
815 8226 2024 1 500 00
1 500 00
Ck 138720 Total 1 500 00
rylhom Ryland Homes 1 500 00
Ryland Homes 1 500 00
SAATZER RONALD
UB 00174 SAATZER RONALD
Ck 138907 12 24 08
Iny
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 22 08 Refund check
Iny Total
Line Item Account
720 0000 2020 5 05
5 05
Ck 138907 Total 5 05
UB 00174 SAA TZER RONALD 5 05
SAATZER RONALD 5 05
SABINSKE DEAN
SABIDEAN SABINSKE DEAN
Ck 138721 12 04 08
Iny 111608
Line Item Date
11 16 08
Iny 111608 Total
Line Item Description
Refund Menards purchase
Line Item Account
101 1320 4240 119 80
119 80
Ck 138721 Total 119 80
SABIDEAN SABINSKE DEAN 119 80
SABINSKE DEAN 119 80
Sarles Jodi
sarljodi Sarles Jodi
Ck 138898 12 24 08
Iny 122308
Line Item Date
12 23 08
Iny 122308 Total
Line Item Description
Holiday Showcase Program Supplies
Line Item Account
101 1530 4130 133 48
133 48
Ck 138898 Total 133 48
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SCHUTROP HOMES
SCHHOM SCHUTROP HOMES
Ck 138722 12 04 08
Inv 120308
Line Item Date
12 03 08
Inv 120308 Total
Schwartz Michael Kathy
schwmich Schwartz Michael Kathy
Ck 138965 12 31 08
Inv 123008
Line Item Date
12 30 08
Inv 123008 Total
CITY OF CHANHAS
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sarljodi
Sarles Jodi
Sawhorse Design
sawdes Sawhorse Design
Ck 138964 12 31 08
Inv 123008
Line Item Date
12 30 08
Inv 123008 Total
Ck 138964 Total
sawdes
Sawhorse Design
Schmieg Greg
Schmigre Schmieg Greg
Ck 138899 12 24 08
Inv 122208
Line Item Date
12 22 08
Inv 122208 Total
Ck 138899 Total
Schmigre
Schmieg Greg
Ck 138722 Total
SCHHOM
SCHUTROP HOMES
Ck 138965 Total
schwmich
Accounts Payable
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Sarles Jodi
Amount
133 48
133 48
Line Item Description
Erosion Escrow 114 Sandy Hook Road
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 500 00
500 00
500 00
Sawhorse Design 500 00
500 00
Line Item Description
Clothing jeans
Line Item Account
101 1370 4240 72 95
72 95
72 95
Schmieg Greg 72 95
72 95
Line Item Description
Asbuilt Escrow 6900 Minnewashta Pkwy
Line Item Account
815 8226 2024 1 500 00
1 500 00
1 500 00
SCHUTROP HOMES 1 500 00
1 500 00
Line Item Description
Erosion Escrow 469 Pleasant View Road
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 250 00
250 00
250 00
Schwartz Michael Kathy 250 00
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SENTRY SYSTEMS INe
SENSYS SENTRY SYSTEMS INC
Ck 138900 12 24 08
Inv 589987
Line Item Date
12 22 08
Inv 589987 Total
SHOREWOOD TRUE VALUE
SHOTRU SHOREWOODTRUEVALUE
Ck 138786 12 11 08
Inv 88559
Line Item Date
11 03 08
Inv 88559 Total
CITY OF CHANHAS
User danielle
Schwartz Michael Kathy
Inv 589988
Line Item Date
12 22 08
12 22 08
Inv 589988 Total
Ck 138900 Total
SENSYS
SENTRY SYSTEMS INe
Sharkey Kevin
sharkevi Sharkey Kevin
Ck 138966 12 31 08
Inv 123008
Line Item Date
12 30 08
Inv 123008 Total
Ck 138966 Total
sharkevi
Sharkey Kevin
Shephens Clyde
shepclyd Shephens Clyde
Ck 138785 12 11 08
Inv 121008
Line Item Date
12 10 08
Inv 121008 Total
Ck 138785 Total
shepclyd
Shephens Clyde
Accounts Payable
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Amount
250 00
Line Item Description
Commercial Monitoring Services FD
Line Item Account
101 1220 4300 160 44
160 44
Line Item Description
Commercial monitoring services
Commercial monitoring services
Line Item Account
101 1190 4300
101 1370 4300
52 16
96 02
148 18
308 62
SENTRY SYSTEMS INC 308 62
308 62
Line Item Description
Erosion Escrow 380 Deerfoot Trail
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 250 00
250 00
250 00
Sharkey Kevin 250 00
250 00
Line Item Description
dishwasher rebate
Line Item Account
720 7204 4901 100 00
100 00
100 00
Shephens Clyde 100 00
100 00
Line Item Description
Fluo Lamp Starter dCON
Line Item Account
101 1190 4510 11 48
11 48
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Amount
Iny 88648
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 07 08 dCON
Iny 88648 Total
Line Item Account
101 1551 4510 18 08
18 08
Ck 138786 Total 29 56
SHOTRU SHOREWOOD TRUE VALUE 29 56
SHOREWOOD TRUE VALUE 29 56
SIGNSOURCE
SIGNSO SIGNSOURCE
Ck 138901 12 24 08
InY 20156
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 04 08 2 color decals
InY 20156 Total
Line Item Account
400 0000 4704 1 100 15
1 100 15
Ck 138901 Total 1 100 15
SIGNSO SIGNSOURCE 1 100 15
SIGNSOURCE 1 100 15
SM HENTGES SONS
SMHEN SM HENTGES SONS
Ck 138845 12 18 08
InY 5
Line Item Date
12 15 08
Iny 5 Total
Line Item Description
CP 08 01 2008 Street Improyements
Line Item Account
601 601 8 475 I 258 429 70
258 429 70
Ck 138845 Total 258 429 70
SMHEN SM HENTGES SONS 258 429 70
SM HENTGES SONS 258 429 70
SOFTWARE HOUSE INTERNATIONAL
SOFHOU SOFTWARE HOUSE INTERNATIONAL
Ck 138902 12 24 08
Iny CE402
Line Item Date
12 12 08
Iny CE402 Total
Line Item Description
Symantec Backup Exec Agent for VMWare
Line Item Account
400 4126 4703 2 421 81
2 421 81
Iny CEB22
Line Item Date
12 12 08
Iny CEB22 Total
Line Item Description
Microsoft Windows 2008 Serv Std w SA
Line Item Account
400 4 I 26 4703 612 38
612 38
Ck 138902 Total 3 034 1 9
SOFHOU SOFTWARE HOUSE INTERNATIONAL 3 034 19
SOFTWARE HOUSE INTERNATIONAL 3 034 19
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Amount
SOUTHWEST SUBURBAN PUBLISHING
sousub SOUTHWEST SUBURBAN PUBLISHING
Ck 138787 12 11 08
Inv 113008
Line Item Date
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
11 30 08
Inv 113008 Total
Line Item Description
Advertising Legal NoticeslMisc Notices
AdvertisinglLegal NoticeslMisc Notices
AdvertisinglLegal NoticeslMisc Notices
AdvertisinglLegal NoticeslMisc Notices
AdvertisinglLegal NoticeslMisc Notices
AdvertisinglLegal NoticeslMisc Notices
Line Item Account
700 0000 4340
10 1 131 0 4340
101 1130 4340
101 1410 4340
101 1615 4340
101 1110 4340
94 52
141 40
208 10
254 81
297 00
351 68
1 347 51
Ck 138787 Total 1 347 51
sousub SOUTHWEST SUBURBAN PUBLISHING 1 347 51
SOUTHWEST SUBURBAN PUBLISHING 1 347 51
Springbrook
Spring Springbrook
Ck 138788 12 11 08
Inv 10349
Line Item Date Line Item Description
09 01 08 Annual Software Maint
Inv 10349 Total
Line Item Account
101 1160 4300 29 637 54
29 637 54
Ck 138788 Total 29 637 54
Spring Springbrook 29 637 54
Springbrook 29 637 54
SPRINT PCS
SPRPCS SPRINT PCS
Ck 138967 12 31 08
Inv 189129626053
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 18 08 Dec 2008 cellular services
12 18 08 Dec 2008 cellular services
Inv 189129626053 Total
Line Item Account
701 0000 4310
700 0000 4310
65 90
65 91
131 81
Ck 138967 Total 131 81
SPRPCS SPRINT PCS 131 81
SPRINT PCS 131 81
SPS COMPANIES INC
SPSCOM SPS COMPANIES INC
Ck 138846 12 18 08
Inv S1964770001
Line Item Date
12 09 08
Inv S1964770001
Line Item Description
Misc parts supplies
Total
Line Item Account
101 1190 4530 19 43
19 43
Ck 138846 Total 19 43
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SPSCOM SPS COMPANIES INC
Amount
19 43
SPS COMPANIES INC 19 43
ST PAUL STAMP WORKS
STPSTA ST PAUL STAMP WORKS
Ck 138903 12 24 08
Iny 161719
Line Item Date
12 16 08
Iny 161719 Total
Line Item Description
6 black replacement stamp pads
Line Item Account
101 1170 4110 49 42
49 42
Ck 138903 Total 49 42
STPSTA ST PAUL STAMP WORKS 49 42
ST PAUL STAMP WORKS 49 42
STREICHER S
STREIC STREICHER S
Ck 138789 12 11 08
Iny 1574870
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 05 08 Chan Fire Dept clothing misc
Iny 1574870 Total
Line Item Account
101 1220 4240 972 99
972 99
Ck 138789 Total 972 99
Ck 138847 12 18 08
Iny 1577129
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 11 08 Parka high visibility refl yellow
InY 1577129 Total
Line Item Account
101 1220 4240 246 98
246 98
Ck 138847 Total 246 98
Ck 138904 12 24 08
Iny 1579499
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 18 08 job shirt
Iny 1579499 Total
Line Item Account
101 1220 4240 59 99
59 99
Ck 138904 Total 59 99
Ck 138968 12 31 08
InY 1580191
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 19 08 Big Easy Unlocking Tool M Johnson
InY 1580191 Total
Line Item Account
101 1260 4120 31 94
31 94
Ck 138968 Total 31 94
STREIC STREICHER S 1 311 90
STREICHER S 1 311 90
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SUBURBAN CHEVROLET
SUBCHE SUBURBAN CHEVROLET
Ck 138905 12 24 08
Inv 143764
Line Item Date
12 09 08
Inv 143764 Total
Inv 145516
Line Item Date
12 17 08
Inv 145516 Total
Line Item Description
Cable ASM 4 047
Line Item Description
Retainer pin
Inv CM117469
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 11 08 Handle
Inv CM117469 Total
Ck 138905 Total
SUBCHE
SUBURBAN CHEVROLET
SUBURBAN CHEVROLET
Superior Wireless Communicatio
supwir Superior Wireless Communicatio
Ck 138790 12 11 08
Inv 23104
Line Item Date
11 25 08
Inv 23104 Total
Inv 23154
Line Item Date
12 02 08
Inv 23154 Total
Ck 138790 Total
supwir
Line Item Description
Cell phone case Nextei 7100i
Line Item Description
Battery Nextel i580
Accounts Payable
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Amount
Line Item Account
700 0000 4140 76 44
76 44
Line Item Account
101 1550 4140 72 74
72 74
Line Item Account
101 1170 4140 34 06
34 06
115 12
115 12
115 12
Line Item Account
400 4126 4703 26 51
26 51
Line Item Account
400 4126 4703 176 75
176 75
203 26
Superior Wireless Communicatio
Superior Wireless Communicatio
203 26
TARGET
TARGET TARGET
Ck 138906 12 24 08
Inv 121808
Line Item Date
12 18 08
Inv 121808 Total
Ck 138906 Total
TARGET
TARGET
Line Item Description
VF Stoneware
TARGET
203 26
Line Item Account
101 1170 4110 9 59
9 59
9 59
9 59
9 59
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TBEI LLC
TBEI TBEI LLC
Ck 138723 12 04 08
Inv 44114
Line Item Date
11 10 08
Inv 44114 Total
Ck 138723 Total
TBEI
TBEI LLC
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
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Amount
Line Item Description
Snowplow wing box sander hydraulics
Line Item Account
400 4108 4704 83 912 42
83 912 42
83 912 42
TBEI LLC 83 912 42
83 912 42
TECHNAGRAPHICS
TECGRA TECHNAGRAPHICS
Ck 138791 12 11 08
Inv 9020011
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 02 08 Name Badges 7 Names
Inv 9020011 Tot
THE ROTTLUND COMPANY INC
ROTCOM THE ROTTLUND COMPANY INC
Ck 138961 12 31 08
Inv 123008
Line Item Date
12 30 08
12130108
12 30 08
12 30 08
12 30 08
12 30 08
12 30 08
12 30 08
12 30 08
12 30 08
12130108
12 30 08
12 30 08
12 30 08
12 30 08
12 30 08
12 30 08
12 30 08
12130108
Inv 123008 Total
Ck 138791 Total
TECGRA
TECHNAGRAPHICS
Ck 138961 Total
ROTCOM
Line Item Account
101 1170 4110 137 03
137 03
13 7 D3
TECHNAGRAPHICS 137 03
137 03
Line Item Description
Erosion Escrow 158 Lakeview Road East
Erosion Escrow 161 Lakeview Road East
Erosion Escrow 162 Lakeview Road East
Erosion Escrow 166 Lakeview Road East
Erosion Escrow 170 Lakeview Road East
Erosion Escrow 177 Lakeview Road East
Erosion Escrow 178 Lakeview Road East
Erosion Escrow 182 Lakeview Road East
Erosion Escrow 126 Lakeview Road East
Erosion Escrow 130 Lakeview Road East
Erosion Escrow 138 Lakeview Road East
Erosion Escrow 142 Lakeview Road East
Erosion Escrow 146 Lakeview Road East
Erosion Escrow 150 Lakeview Road East
Erosion Escrow 154 Lakeview Road East
Erosion Escrow 165 Lakeview Road East
Erosion Escrow 174 Lakeview Road East
Erosion Escrow 181 Lakeview Road East
Erosion Escrow 157 Lakeview Road East
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
250 00
250 00
250 00
250 00
250 00
250 00
250 00
250 00
250 00
250 00
250 00
250 00
250 00
250 00
250 00
500 00
500 00
500 00
500 00
5 750 00
5 750 00
THE ROTTLUND COMPANY INC 5 750 00
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THE ROTTLUND COMPANY INC
Amount
5 750 00
TOLL GAS WELDING SUPPLY
TOLGAS TOLL GAS WELDING SUPPLY
Ck 138724 12 04 08
Iny 244666
Line Item Date
11 18 08
Iny 244666 Total
Ck 138724 Total
Line Item Description
WS Acetylene Cutting Oil
Line Item Account
101 1320 4120 161 21
161 21
161 21
Ck 138792 12 11 08
InY 244858
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 19 08 Insul Winter Work Gloye
Iny 244858 Total
Iny 245431
Line Item Date
11 24 08
Iny 245431 Total
Ck 138792 Total
TOLGAS
Line Item Account
101 1550 4240 48 98
48 98
Line Item Description
Cable flex Aprene
Line Item Account
10 1 13 70 4120 65 98
65 98
114 96
TOLL GAS WELDING SUPPLY 276 17
TOLL GAS WELDING SUPPLY 276 17
UHL Company Ine
Uh1eom UHL Company Ine
Ck 138725 12 04 08
Iny 38812
Line Item Date
11 24 08
Iny 38812 Total
UNITED RENTALS HIGHWAYS TECH
UNIREN UNITED RENTALS HIGHWAYS TECH
Ck 138854 12 18 08
InY 78371695001
Line Item Date
12 03 08
Iny 78371695001
Ck 138725 Total
Uh1eom
UHL Company Ine
Ck 138854 Total
Ck 138909 12 24 08
Iny 78371695001
Line Item Date
12 03 08
Iny 78371695001
Line Item Description
Chan Public Library labor service
Line Item Account
101 1190 4530 1 213 88
1 213 88
1 213 88
UHL Company Ine 1 213 88
1 213 88
Line Item Description
Trench box comer end post build a box
Total
Line Item Account
700 0000 4552 287 55
287 55
287 55
Line Item Description
Trench box Comer end post build a box
Total
Line Item Account
701 0000 4410 287 55
287 55
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UNIREN
Accounts Payable
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Amount
287 55
UNITED RENTALS HIGHWAYS TECH 575 10
UNITED RENTALS HIGHWAYS TECH 575 10
VALLEY FENCE INC
valfen VALLEY FENCE INC
Ck 138793 1211 lI08
Inv 120808
Line Item Date
12 08 08
Inv 120808 Total
UNITED WAY
UNIW A Y UNITED WAY
Ck 138726 12 04 08
Inv
Line Item Date
12 02 08
12 02 08
Inv Total
Ck 138726 Total
Ck 138855
Inv
Line Item Date
12116 08
1211 6 08
Inv Total
Ck 138855 Total
Ck 138976
Inv
Line Item Date
12 30 08
12 30 08
12 30 08
Inv Total
Ck 138976 Total
UNIWAY
UNITED WAY
Ck 138793 Total
valfen
VALLEY FENCE INC
Line Item Description
PR Batch 405 122008 United Way
PR Batch 405 122008 United Way
Line Item Account
720 0000 2006
10 1 0000 2006
5 00
28 40
33 40
33 40
12 18 08
Line Item Description
PR Batch 419 12 2008 United Way
PR Batch 419 12 2008 United Way
Line Item Account
720 0000 2006
101 0000 2006
5 00
28 40
33 40
33 40
12 3 1 08
Line Item Description
PR Batch 402 I 2009 United Way
PR Batch 402 I 2009 United Way
PR Batch 402 I 2009 United Way
Line Item Account
700 0000 2006
701 0000 2006
101 0000 2006
2 99
3 01
49 65
55 65
55 65
UNITED WAY 122 45
122 45
Line Item Description
remove install wood fence on Hwy 101
Line Item Account
101 1550 4300 1 250 00
1 250 00
1 250 00
VALLEY FENCE INC 1 250 00
1 250 00
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Amount
VIKING ELECTRIC SUPPLY
vikele VIKING ELECTRIC SUPPLY
Ck 138794 1211 1 08
Inv 3315609
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 03 08 lug washer wire
InY 3315609 Total
Line Item Account
701 0000 4551 3 96
3 96
Ck 138794 Total 3 96
Ck 138856 12 18 08
InY 3320212
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 05 08 Misc parts supplies
InY 3320212 Total
Line Item Account
701 0000 4551 54 87
54 87
Ck 138856 Total 54 87
VIKELE VIKING ELECTRIC SUPPLY 58 83
VIKING ELECTRIC SUPPLY 58 83
Volk Merle D
V olkMerD V olk Merle D
Ck 138857 12118 08
Iny 110408
Line Item Date
11 04 08
Iny 110408 Total
Line Item Description
Chan new bldg site 11 4 08 11 21 08
Line Item Account
421 0000 4150 17 571 60
17 571 60
Ck 138857 Total 17 571 60
V olkMerD V olk Merle D 17 571 60
Volk Merle D 17 571 60
WACONIA DODGE
WACDOD WACONIA DODGE
Ck 138977 12 31 08
Iny 11382
Line Item Date
12 26 08
Iny 11382 Total
Line Item Description
Balljoint
Line Item Account
101 1250 4140 175 47
175 47
Ck 138977 Total 175 47
WACDOD W ACONIA DODGE 175 47
W ACONIA DODGE 175 47
WACONIA FARM SUPPLY
WACFAR WACONIA FARM SUPPLY
Ck 138910 12 24 08
Iny K70581
Line Item Date Line Item Description
1211 6 08 LP Gas Cylinders dotted palm gloyes
Iny K7058 I Total
Line Item Account
10 1 1550 4150 111 52
111 52
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Ck 138910 Total
Amount
111 52
WACFAR WACONIA FARM SUPPLY 111 52
WACONIA FARM SUPPLY 111 52
Walser Chrysler Jeep
WalChr Walser Chrysler Jeep
Ck 138978 12 31 08
Iny 153945
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 19 08 Flasher
Iny 153945 Total
Line Item Account
700 0000 4140 38 33
38 33
Ck 138978 Total 38 33
WalChr Walser Chrysler Jeep 38 33
Walser Chrysler Jeep 38 33
WARNER BUILDING CORP
UB 00175 WARNER BUILDING CORP
Ck 138908 12 24 08
Iny
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 22 08 Refund check
Iny Total
Line Item Account
720 0000 2020 6 40
6 40
Ck 138908 Total 6 40
UB 00175 WARNER BUILDING CORP 6 40
WARNER BUILDING CORP 6 40
WASTE MANAGEMENT SAVAGE
W ASMAN WASTE MANAGEMENT SAVAGE
Ck 138727 12 04 08
InY 480059222822
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 01 08 Chan Fire Station 2 service
12 01 08 Chan Fire Station 1 service
12 01 08 Public Works service
12 01 08 Chan Fire Station 2 service
12 01 08 Chan Library service
12 01 08 Lake Ann service
Iny 480059222822 Total
Line Item Account
101 1220 4350
101 1220 4350
101 1370 4350
101 1170 4350
101 1190 4350
101 1550 4350
16 01
71 81
153 28
173 50
241 96
492 50
1 149 06
Ck 138727 Total 1 149 06
W ASMAN WASTE MANAGEMENT SAVAGE 1 149 06
WASTE MANAGEMENT SAVAGE 1 149 06
Water Conservation Services I
watcon Water Conservation Services I
Ck 138911 12 24 08
Iny 1004
Line Item Date
12 10 08
Line Item Description
11 21 08 6600 Pipewood Curve Leak Loc
Line Item Account
700 0000 4509 243 50
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Inv 1004 Total
Amount
243 50
Ck 138911 Total 243 50
watcon Water Conservation Services I 243 50
Water Conservation Services I 243 50
WATEROUS COMPANY
WATCOM WATEROUS COMPANY
Ck 138980 12 31 08
Inv P2B7596001
Line Item Date
12 23 08
Inv P2B7596001
Line Item Description
Discharge Valve Repair Kit
Total
Line Item Account
101 1220 4520 792 00
792 00
Ck 138980 Total 792 00
WATCOM WATEROUS COMPANY 792 00
WATEROUS COMPANY 792 00
Waterous Arizona Operations
watco2 Waterous Arizona Operations
Ck 138979 12 31 08
Inv 556701N
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 23 08 Ck valve durablalair ck valve for dischg
Inv 556701N Total
Line Item Account
101 1220 4520 136 28
136 28
Ck 138979 Total 136 28
watco2 Waterous Arizona Operations 136 28
Waterous Arizona Operations 136 28
Waters Keith
watekeit Waters Keith
Ck 138981 12 31 08
Inv 123008
Line Item Date
12 30 08
Inv 123008 Total
Line Item Description
Erosion Escrow 500 Big Woods Boulevard
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 500 00
500 00
Ck 138981 Total 500 00
watekeit Waters Keith 500 00
Waters Keith 500 00
W A YTEK INC
WAYTEK WAYTEKINC
Ck 138728 12 04 08
Inv 1422956
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 20 08 misc parts supplies
Inv 1422956 Total
Line Item Account
101 1550 4140 138 54
138 54
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Ck 138728 Total
WAYTEK WAYTEK INC
WAYTEKINC
We Cater to You
WeCat We Cater to You
Ck 138795 12 1 1 08
InY 474
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 05 08 Chan Rec Center food Sr Center
InY 474 Total
Ck 138795 Total
WeCat We Cater to You
We Cater to You
WESTAR DEVELOPMENT INC
WESDEV WE STAR DEVELOPMENT INC
Ck 138982 12 31 08
Iny 123008
Line Item Date
12 30 08
12 30 08
12 30 08
Iny 123008 Total
Line Item Description
Erosion Escrow 381 Del Rio Driye
Erosion Escrow 386 Del Rio Driye
Erosion Escrow 391 Del Rio Driye
Ck 138982 Total
WESDEV
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
138 54
138 54
138 54
Line Item Account
101 1560 4300 1 189 55
1 189 55
1 189 55
1 189 55
1 189 55
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
815 8202 2024
500 00
500 00
500 00
1 500 00
1 500 00
WESTAR DEVELOPMENT INC 1 500 00
WESTAR DEVELOPMENT INC
WING RICHARD
WINGRICH WING RICHARD
Ck 138797 12 1 1 08
Iny 120908
Line Item Date
12 09 08
Iny 120908 Total
Line Item Description
First three quarters of cleaning
Ck 138797 Total
WINGRICH WING RICHARD
WING RICHARD
WINGFOOT COMMERCIAL TIRE
WINCOM WINGFOOT COMMERCIAL TIRE
Ck 138983 12 31 08
Iny 1241046865
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 25 08 Misc parts supplies
Iny 1241046865 Total
1 500 00
Line Item Account
101 1220 4350 60 00
60 00
60 00
60 00
60 00
Line Item Account
101 1220 4140 319 85
319 85
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User danielle
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
Iny 1241046869
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 26 08 Misc parts supplies
Iny 1241046869 Total
Line Item Account
101 1320 4140 1 507 75
1 507 75
Iny 1241046950
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 05 08 Credit scrap tires
Iny 1241046950 Total
Line Item Account
101 1320 4140 72 00
72 00
Ck 138983 Total 1 755 60
WINCOM WINGFOOT COMMERCIAL TIRE 1 755 60
WINGFOOT COMMERCIAL TIRE 1 755 60
Wise Tim
wisetim Wise Tim
Ck 138984 12 31 08
Iny 123008
Line Item Date
12 30 08
Iny 123008 Total
Line Item Description
Erosion Escrow 425 Lakota Lane
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 250 00
250 00
Ck 138984 Total 250 00
wisetim Wise Tim 250 00
Wise Tim 250 00
WITYNSKI MIKE CHERIE
UB 00179 WITYNSKI MIKE CHERIE
Ck 138972 12 31 08
Iny
Line Item Date
12 31 08
Iny Total
Line Item Description
Refund check
Line Item Account
700 0000 2020 257 74
257 74
Ck 138972 Total 257 74
UB 00179 WITYNSKI MIKE CHERIE 257 74
WITYNSKI MIKE CHERIE 257 74
WM MUELLER SONS INC
wmmue WM MUELLER SONS INC
Ck 138798 12 11 08
Iny 148244
Line Item Date
11 17 08
Iny 148244 Total
Line Item Description
bank fill sand
Line Item Account
700 0000 4552 25 69
25 69
Iny 148392
Line Item Date
11 21 08
Iny 148392 Total
Line Item Description
bank fill sand dump charge
Line Item Account
700 0000 4552 123 48
123 48
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User danielle
Inv 148513
Line Item Date
11 28 08
Inv 148513 Total
Line Item Description
fine bit mixlblacktop
Ck 138798 Total
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
Line Item Account
700 0000 4552 610 12
610 12
759 29
WM MUELLER SONS INC
759 29
wmmue
WM MUELLER SONS INC
WW GRAINGER INC
WWGRA WW GRAINGER INC
Ck 138729 12 04 08
Inv 9778236423
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 12 08 Bin Divider
Inv 9778236423 Tot
Inv 9778543653
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 12 08 Tower White Pk 2000
Inv 9778543653 Total
Inv 9785927329
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 21 08 Cement Primer Coupling
Inv 9785927329 Total
Ck 138729 Total
Ck 138912 12 24 08
Inv 9800641186
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 15 08 Misc parts supplies
Inv 9800641186 Total
Ck 138912 Total
Ck 138985 12 31 08
Inv 9801079881
Line Item Date
12 15 08
Inv 9801079881
Line Item Description
Switch toggle rubber boot
Total
Ck 138985 Total
WWGRA WW GRAINGER INC
WW GRAINGER INC
XCEL ENERGY INC
xcel XCEL ENERGY INC
Ck 138730 12 04 08
Inv 112408
Line Item Date
11 24 08
11 24 08
Line Item Description
November electric charges
November electric charges
759 29
Line Item Account
700 0000 4140 32 76
32 76
Line Item Account
700 7019 4150 68 63
68 63
Line Item Account
700 7019 4150 18 22
18 22
119 61
Line Item Account
101 1370 4260 380 31
380 31
380 31
Line Item Account
101 1190 4530 32 87
32 87
32 87
532 79
532 79
Line Item Account
101 1600 4320
101 1350 4320
27 88
20 569 30
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User danielle
Iny 112408 Total
Iny 112608
Line Item Date
11 26 08
11 26 08
11 26 08
Iny 112608 Total
Ck 138730 Total
Line Item Description
Noyember electric charges
Noyember electric charges
Noyember electric charges
Ck 138913 12 24 08
Iny 178845125
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 17 08 Electric services bill
Iny 178845125 Total
InY 252349289
Line Item Date Line Item Description
12 17 08 Electric services bill
Iny 252349289 Total
Ck 138913 Total
Ck 138986
Iny 121808
Line Item Date
12 18 08
12 18 08
12 18 08
12 18 08
12 18 08
12 18 08
12 18 08
Iny 121808 Total
Iny 122308
Line Item Date
12 23 08
Iny 122308 Total
Ck 138986 Total
XCEL
XCEL ENERGY INC
ZACK S INe
ZACKS ZACK S INe
Ck 138731 12 04 08
Iny 24558
Line Item Date
11 20 08
Iny 24558 Total
Ck 138731 Total
ZACKS
12 31 08
Line Item Description
Dec 2008 energy bill
Dec 2008 energy bill
Dec 2008 energy bill
Dec 2008 energy bill
Dec 2008 energy bill
Dec 2008 energy bill
Dec 2008 energy bill
Line Item Description
Dec 2008 energy bill
XCEL ENERGY INC
Line Item Description
Misc supplies
ZACK S INC
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
20 597 18
Line Item Account
101 1600 4320
101 1550 4320
101 1540 4320
58 68
175 45
188 71
422 84
21 020 02
Line Item Account
700 0000 4320 7 622 09
7 622 09
Line Item Account
700 7019 4320 6 121 06
6 121 06
13 743 15
Line Item Account
101 1551 4320
700 0000 4320
701 0000 4320
101 1370 4320
101 1220 4320
101 1170 4320
101 1190 4320
76 84
81 59
81 59
652 75
851 45
3 077 14
3 138 50
7 959 86
Line Item Account
101 1600 4320 17 66
17 66
7 977 52
42 740 69
42 740 69
Line Item Account
101 1320 4120 596 58
596 58
596 58
596 58
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ZACK S INe
ZIEGLER INC
ZIEGLE ZIEGLER INC
Ck 138732 12 04 08
Iny SB140006331
Line Item Date
11 14 08
Iny SB140006331
Line Item Description
CR repair parts on machines
Total
Iny SVV140106339
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 06 08 Repair parts on machines
Iny SVV140106339 Total
Iny SVV140106628
Line Item Date Line Item Description
11 14 08 Repair parts on machines
Iny SVV140106628 Total
Ck 138732 Total
ZIEGLE ZIEGLER INC
ZIEGLER INC
ZOERHOF PEGGIE
zoerpegg ZOERHOF PEGGIE
Ck 138799 12 11 08
InY OI09crc
Line Item Date Line Item Description
10 21 08 pilates instruction
Iny 0109crc Total
Ck 138799 Total
zoerpegg ZOERHOF PEGGIE
ZOERHOF PEGGIE
Total
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Line Item Account
101 1320 4120
Line Item Account
101 1320 4120
Line Item Account
101 1320 4120
Line Item Account
101 1539 4300
Printed 01 02 09 08 32
Amount
596 58
230 12
230 12
230 12
230 12
55 29
55 29
55 29
55 29
55 29
1 528 80
1 528 80
1 528 80
1 528 80
1 528 80
1 864 730 39
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0 O R p O R A J E A C O Q U N J A O T t V I T m
CITY OFCHANHASSEN TOTAL CORPORATE ACTIVITY
21 171 41 CR
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Description
12 08 12 08 74798268343000000000166 PAYMENT THANK YOU 00000 W
Amount
21 171 41 PY
New AcTIViTY
kTHRYN AANENSON
I r l
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
55 75
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
55 75
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Nu ber Transaction Descri tion Amount
SE SIBLE LANQ USE CQAL 952 545 0505 MN tiDI 4z o i 10 35 00
i RLnl r A tSSEN fHANHAS E MN 1 Ltlidl i O
2 75
11 28 11 27 24223698332516675308254
12 03 jt 2 41 7338 F20o 081 1 17
CUSTOMER SERVICE CALL
ACCOUNT NUMBER
800 344 5696 u
ACCOUNT SUMMARY
21171 41
28117 46
00
00
00
29 67
STATEMENT DATE DISPUTED AMOUNT
12 15 08 00
SEND BILLING INQUIRIES TO AMOUNT DUE CREDITS
PAYMENTS 21171 41
U S BANK
P O Box 6335
Fargo ND 58125 6335
28 087 79
ACCOUNT BALANCE 28 087 79
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1 Com an Name CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Cor orate Account Number
Statement Dat 12 15 2008
JSUSAN BILL
L
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
928 92
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
928 92
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion
AMERICAN SWEDISH INST 612 871 4907 MN IDI S 1o 1 300
TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MNI t 0 I O
11 24 11 21
12 08 12 05
24493988326206872500053
24164078340091007801448
v6RAIG W CARLSON CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
264 48
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
264 48
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion
MINNESOTA SECTION ST PAUL MN 1ro lro Y 10
CUB FOODS CHANHASSEN MN 1 Oll l 41
TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MN O C lt o
CUB FOODS CHANHASSEN MN 1 l6 e 41
11 19 11 18 24493988324187000013528
11 20 11 19 24427338324720005893160
11 26 11 25 24164078330091007400417
11 26 11 25 24427338330720006609054
EDWARD J COPPERSMITH CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
296 99
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
296 99
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
Amount
913 50
15 42
Amount
240 00
2 96
17 08
4 44
11 18 11 18 24692168323000180693648
11 19 11 18 24055238324207819300427
12 08 12 04 24228998340538244401146
Transaction Description Amount
WORKINGPERS 877 652 9675 IN 10 1 2 2 4240 84 99
AEDSUPERSTORE 800 544 0048 WI 152 00
MINN FIRE SVC CERT BOARD 866 5660911 Wilel f J 1 0 1 10 60 00
vc TOTAL ACTIVITY
167 25 CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
167 25
CASH ADV
0 00
Post Tran
Date Date
11 21 11 20
12 01 11 28
12 03 12 01
Reference Number Transaction Description
TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MNIDI I 3 c i Y Il O MILLS FLEET FARM 25 LAKEVILLE MNI THE HOME DEPOT 2825 CHESKA MN 6 19 l LYo IDk I t 6 t 4 0
24164078325091007848463
24717058334693349834839
24610438337010178012420
V2REN ENGELHARDT PURCHASES
267 51
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
267 51
CREDITS
0 00
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion
11 24 11 20 24164078326755244130229 HOULlHANS 00111021 CHANHASSEN MN lllg 4 1I 267 51
Amount
viODD GERHARDT CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
72 37
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
72 37
Amount
69 67
54 99
42 59
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If Com an Name CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Cor orate Account Number
Statement Date 12 15 2008
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
12 03 12 01 24750768337000487760728
12 05 12 03 24493988340892014822034
Transaction Descri tion Amount
GINA MARIAS PIZZA CHANHASSEN MN IDI III l 1 39 37
DANGERFIELDS RESTAURANT SHAKOPEE MN I DI 11 2 0 4 1D 33 00
GREGG GESKE CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
241 13
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
241 13
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion
11 25 11 24 24427338329720005854332 CUB FOODS CHANHASSEN MN
12 03 12 02 24755428337153370731201 GRANZOW INC 704 8452300 NC
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
8 28
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
8 28
Amount
151 27
89 86
Post Tran
Date Dale Reference Number Transaction Descri lion Amounl
11 24 11 21 24610438327010178872403 THE HOME Di POT 2825 CHESKA MN I I t l l f Ic 8 28
ToDD HOFFMAN CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
695 74
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
695 74
Post Tran
Date Date
11 24 11 21
12 08 12 05
12 15 12 12
Reference Number Transaction Descri tion
JIMMY JOHNS CHANHASSEN MN I 162 c y 10
THE HOME DEPOT 2825 CHESKA MN I D O II 10 NRPA 703 8580794 VA 10 I Z 1 3 lac
24013398327001497652922
24610438341010179124525
24332398349000996790561
LAURIE A HOKKANEN CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
109 96
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
109 96
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
12 08 12 04 24427338340710029987353
12 09 12 08 24492158344849285144925
12 12 12 10 24223908346050003199711
Transaction Descri tion
EINSTEIN8ROS 1842 CHANHASSEN MN IOI z c I H 1o
COBURNSDELlVERS 320 203 6222 MN I 01 1110 l f 310
CHANHASSEN CHAMBER 0 952 9343903 MN L1 1 101 Iii 0
V1ERRANCE JEFF CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
165 00
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
165 00
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion
11 24 11 21 24717058327123273271872 A W R A 540 6878390 VA 120 6o O l f oo
Amount
113 63
52 11
530 00
Amount
22 98
66 98
20 00
Amount
165 00
J
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Com an Name CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Cor orate Account Number
Statement Date 12 15 2008
JERRY JOHNSON
Post Tran
Date Date
11 24 11 22
11 26 11 24
12 04 12 03
ARK L1TTFIN
Post Tran
Date Date
11 26 11 25
12 01 11 24
Reference Number
24412958327279051034673
24013398330001593523725
24266578339729127334878
Reference Number
24792628331206999100020
24721878333333280397704
BRETT MARTINSON
Post Tran
Date Date
11 24 11 21
11 25 11 24
12 15 12 11
Reference Number
24326848326207212200031
24692168329000069223131
24445008347566779996923
v
Post Tran
Date Date
11 18 11 17
12 09 12 08
12 12 12 1 1
Reference Number
24427338322720007945127
24427338343720008330076
24164078346091007458086
vR
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
11 24 11 21
11 24 11 22
12 01 11 30
12 02 12 01
12 05 12 04
12 08 12 04
12 08 12 05
12 09 12 08
12 11 12 10
24431868326980006355654
24445008328541342171471
24435658336286580700011
24158138336000912090076
24445008339555755724607
24332398340000979468473
24492158340849198620817
24492798343118000138057
24412958345206363607241
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
104 91
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
104 91
Transaction Descri tion
GRAYBAR ELECTRIC 314 573 9200 MO
PULSTAR 651 4909053 MN
FASTENAL CO RETAIL WINONA MN
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
65 98
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
65 98
Transaction Descri tion
MERLlNS ACE HARDWARE CHANHASSEN MNIClI I J 2 i2 4o
THE FIRESTORE COM 800 2010461 PA I C4 1 2 2 0 112 0
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
635 52
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
635 52
Transaction Descri tion
HOLTZ INDUSTRIES INC 614 366 4002 OH
DT DULUTH TRADING CO 877 382 2345 WI
OFFICE MAX CHANHASSEN MN
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
115 65
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
115 65
Transaction Descri tion
BYERLY S CHANHASSEN CHANHASSEN MN o l t7o Yt l
BYERLY S CHANHASSEN CHANHASSEN MNIOI 12t7o 10 TARGET 00008623CHANHASSEN MN 101 11 0 41 o
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
5 347 70
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
5 347 70
Transaction Descri tion
Amount
23 52
40 26
41 13
Amount
11 49
54 49
Amount
552 00
73 95
9 57
Amount
37 56
32 92
45 17
Amount
JR CONSULTING MINNETONKA MN 4 1 t l1o 627 10
OFFICE MAX CHANHASSEN MN I ll p 410 325 85
IEEE PRODUCTS SERVICES 800 678 4333 NJ 11 l1 lIbo DtI 141 00
MINNESOTA TROPHIES AND GI 800 6822289 MNlol f2 1 1 4 1 G 96 44
CDW GOVERNMENT 800 800 4239 IL L fOCl flu lo 492 64
SOLARWINDS NET 918 3078100 TX L f 111 7 997 50
GOVTTRNGSVC 651 222 7409 MN 10 I 13 10
0 335 00
ESRI INC 909 7932853 CA 4CC1 1 lZ 4iO O 539 12
GARMIN INTERNATIONAL 913 397 8200 KS t I 7 0 t tz 1 b 69 99
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r t a E E Com an Name CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Cor orate Account Number
Statement Date 12 15 2008
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion Amount
12 11 12 11 24692168346000439061756 GOV CNCTN 44198014888 294 0268 MDt YI2 L Ylo 3 1 665 80
12 12 12 11 24717058347123471119192 TRIMBLE NAVIGATION LTD 408 4812900 CA4 t 12 P 4 1o 57 26
JODI L SARLES
I
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
11 18 11 17
11 20 11 19
11 21 11 20
11 24 11 21
11 26 11 25
11 28 11 25
12 01 11 29
12 02 12 01
12 02 12 01
12 03 12 01
24323008322123229010016
24164078324091007510288
74323018326542414010038
24323008326123233010032
24301378330118000100088
24258028331515860310504
24164078334941396834921
24301378336118000100017
24301378336118000100058
24258028337515860370858
DEAN SCHMIEG
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
11 24 11 21 24492158326849848951008
12 03 12 02 24506018337980024047837
v CHARLES SIEGLE
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
11 20 11 19 24692168324000360721069
11 24 11 20 24610438326010178634275
12 12 12 11 24692168346000470323826
v ILL SINCLAIR
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
11 21 11 18
12 09 12 08
12 09 12 08
12 11 12 09
24055238325207688500411
24427338343720005713175
24717058343153434948878
24717058345643451310216
CREDITS
29 67
PURCHASES
5 005 47
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
4 975 80
Transaction Descri tion
AMERICAN GLASS MIRRO PRIOR LAKE MN 1 I 5 O
TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MN 0 1 5 I O PLANETRX COM NEW YORK NY 10 1 Cl q O AMERICAN GLASS MIRRO PRIOR LAKE MN 161 1 3 7 l REVOLUTION DANCEWEAR 800 8061157 IL Ic 1 S I O CURTAIN CALL COSTUMES 888 8080801 PA 101 1 l1 6 b f5 g g t 9
8 6 t6 5 7 bi 41 REVOLUTION DANCEWEAR 800 8061157 IL 10 f6 S l j I O CURTAIN CALL COSTUMES 888 8080801 PAlo I lI O
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
314 60
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
314 60
Transaction Descri tion
MNLA 651 633 4987 MN tD tl 4310
KROMER CO LLC 763 746 4040 MN O 1 S o i 160
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
132 12
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
132 12
Transaction Descri tion
U PS 1 Z521 R23039177 4048 800 811 1648 GA I D I 2 D Lf I2 D
THE HOME DEPOT 2825 CHESKA MN 1t 1 1 S L IZ
UPS 1Z521 R230394592051 800 811 1648 GA I O 1 2 0 t
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
223 89
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
223 89
Transaction Descri tion
AXELS CHANHASSEN CHANHASSEN MN12 o 12 CI 41
CUB FOODS CHANHASSEN MN
SPALON MONTAGE CHANHASSEN MN 1 lO 1 Z DI I o THE SCHOOL II CHANHASSEN MN 1 d O 1 2 0 l 1X
C cs 1 U 1 Z Q I f
tI n 1 I I 1
Amount
185 00
15 68
29 67 CR
184 48
700 00
1 241 65
53 61
1 150 38
406 89
1 067 78
Amount
268 00
46 60
Amount
7 88
112 45
11 79
Amount
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Com an Name CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Cor orate Account Number
Statement Date 12 15 2008
IROGER SMALLBECK
L
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
55 98
CASH ADV
0 00
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
TOTAL ACTIVITY
55 98
11 24 11 22 24164078327091007521183
12 15 12 12 24445008348568281362106
Transaction Descri tion
TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MN 1 1 1 1 1 0
OFFICE MAX CHANHASSEN MN 161 122 0 j2 b
DESIGNS FOR DANCE COM 314 7739000 MOIO 1 73 7 L t o 8 077 63
COSTUME GALLERY 609 3866501 NJ IClI I 5 17 t 110 3 815 88
HOLIDAY STNSTORE 0335 MINNEAPOLIS MNfC 1 l1 Lf 10 01
PAYPAL INC 888 883 9770 NE I 1 D 59 9
Q CC O
TOTAL ACTIVITY
39 79
JEAN STECK CREDITS
0 00
CASH ADV
0 00
PURCHASES
570 00
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion
12 03 12 01 24717058337733370661540 SECRETARY OF STATE 651 2011368 MN
12 09 12 09 24266578344286358500316 U OF M CCE 612 625 4259 MN
GREG STICHA CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
11 963 47
CASH ADV
0 00
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri lion
12 04 12 03 24492808338118000138606
12 04 12 03 24755428338163386386949
12 12 12 10 24717058346693464050514
12 15 12 12 24492158347207733500346
TOTAL ACTIVITY
570 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
11 963 47
IJOHN W SlUT CASH ADV
0 00
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
39 79
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion
11 21 11 20
11 28 11 26
24435658325286899900123
24164078331091007403477
US TENNIS ASSOCIATION 877 824 5001 NvlM lloCl L 10
TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MN I Dl 1 1 l5 10 0
IJIM THEIS CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
147 92
CASH ADV
0 00
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion
12 01 11 29 24717058335693357743327 MILLS FLEET FARM 24 BROOKLYN PARK MN Ib l f lo 147 92
Amount
v4ARJORIE A THEIS PURCHASES
121 08
CASH ADV
0 00
CREDITS
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
147 92
TOTAL ACTIVITY
121 08
Amount
28 83
27 15
Amount
40 00
530 00
Amount
Amount
35 00
4 79
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Com an Name CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Cor orate Account Number
Statement Date 12 15 2008
Post Tran
Date Date
11 25 11 24
11 25 11 24
11 25 11 24
11 26 11 24
12 05 12 04
Reference Number Transaction Descri tion
TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MN D I o itlD
TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MN lOt w1o l1111l
BAUDVILLE INC 616 698 0889 MI I I I 11a tIIO
SUBWAY 00111690 CHANHASSEN MN 161 lIQ 1Cl
TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MN 1 1110 l f 310
24164078329091007497549
24164078329091007670541
24425138329543299012375
24164078330255214216268
24164078339091007704306
Department 00000 Total
Division 00000 Total
Amount
2 86
5 50
57 74
32 25
22 73
28 087 79
28 087 79
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