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MEMORANDUM
TO: Park and Recreation Commission
FROM: Todd Hoffman. Park and Recreation Director
DATE: May 16, 2001
SUB J:
Herman Field Park- Response to Neighborhood Mailing
On April 24, 2001, the Park and Recreation Commission requested that I mail a letter to
the Herman Field Park neighborhood. A cop3' of my letter and distribution list is
attached. The commission desired to make an inquiry regarding tile idea of relocating tile
park's playground. Responses have been mixed but lean heavily towards a desire to see
tile playground remain.
Currently there are two slides missing from tile structure. They were burned late last
summer after which we removed them and boarded up their exits. We have tile new
slides in storage. Since their original construction, these slides have been reconfigured
and will require new footings be poured prior to installation. One of these slides was
previously burned and replaced. Numerous other repairs to vandalized parts have also
been made to the structure.
It would appear from the correspondence received that tile extra police patrols, that I and
the colnmission routinely call for may not be occurring. If this indeed tile case. removal
of the equipment would be premature and the issue of enforcement/neighborhood watch
needs additional attention. 1 do not believe anyone will dispute that the secluded nature
of Herman Field Park requires special maintenance and enforcement efforts. It appears
tile majority of the residents in this area feel these efforts are worthwhile.
Attachments
Neighborhood mailing dated April 24, 2001
Response letters
E-mails
Voice ~nail messages
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Dear Resident:
The Herman Field Park Playground has a history of being vandalized. A
neighborhood watch initiative and a higher than average patrol schedule have
provided some relief; however, repairs to the playground have cost the city
thousands of dollars. Couple this with the fact that the playground is lightly used,
and the City's Park and Recreation Commission is left questioning the value of
this playground facility. The Commission is considering the possibility of
recommending to the City Council that the Herman Field Playground be removed
and used at another location.
However, prior to giving serious consideration to this thought, the Commission
asked that I make an inquiry with the neighborhood. If you have comments on
this topic or on other issues relating to Herman Field Park, please contact us. You
may write a letter to the attention of Jan Lash, Park and Recreation Commission
Chair, call me at 952-937-1900, extension 121, or send an email to me at
thoffman~ci.chanhassen.mn.us.
Sincerely,
Todd Hoffman
Park and Recreation Director
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Scott Botcher, City Manager
Mayor and City Council
Park and Recreation Commission
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erman Field Park Messages
Hi Todd. My name is Teresa Falk and I received a letter from the city about the Herman Field
Park playground that has been vandalized. We are new to the area and were very excited to see
that the park was so close that we are able to use it and not have to drive across the highway. We
have young children so we were very disappointed to see that it was vandalized and would love
to be able to see the park stay there. It is a very convenient location for those people that live
around the area and I too have witnessed that kids being there, just kind of hanging out and
possibly were the ones doing harm but when an adult arrives they usually left the scene. We
really enjoy the park and when I go with my kids we clean it up and try to get rid of the glass so it
is safe. We'd really love to see it repaired and stick around because it's a really good location for
kids and a soccer ball and flying a kite and if there is anymore information I can give you or more
names of people... . I know of two other families that really like to use the park but they are
uncomfortable going there because it is a little secluded and maybe don't feel safe being by
themselves if there are people there and don't really belong there. So if I can help out in any way
or give any more comments or feedback, please give me a call. My name again is Teresa Faulk
and my husband is Brian and we are at Tanagers Points in Chanhassen and our phone number is
952-380-0807 and thanks for taking our comments.
Hi Todd. My name is Christine Levin and I live at 2841 Tanagers Lane in Chanhassen and we
got the letter for the Herman Field Park playground and I think it is a great idea closing it down
unlbrtunately. We have lived in the neighborhood for about 4 V2 years and actually one of the
reasons we liked the neighborhood so much was because of Herman Field Park and the
playground and we thought it would just be a wonderful area for a family because xve have two
kids and one on the way. But it has been really disappointing because the layout of the
playground and the access to it is so far back. It's the perfect place for different kinds of
inappropriate activities and we've gone down there many times and found broken glass all over
the place, cigarette butts everywhere. We found shell casings, paint ball splatters that we've had
to call into the police to get cleaned up and then more recently the burns which resulted in the
slide being closed and this is really disappointing for my kids and also for me, it just makes the
area feel more unsafe and this is really shame. My husband has attended meetings in the past
about how to improve the situation as far as putting gates or putting locking pillars, concrete
pillars so that cars can't drive there but then the residents down the road were concerned about
they didn't want people parking and walking there. This is just really a bad layout and so while I
really desperately want a playground in my neighborhood so that we can actually walk to the
playground with the children and see the neighborhood and have more of a community feel, we
don't go there anymore. There is nothing to do. We can't walk in the gravel because there is
glass in it and cigarette butts and shell casings and the only thing to do there is swing in then
you're standing in that gravel. There is nothing else to do because the rest of the equipment is
trashed and trees have been damaged and all that stuff. So anyway I would like it if the
playground be relocated to a better location. I'm not sure what other locations you are thinking
of or there is based in the community but I agree that it should be... recommending that it be
removed and used in another location, I definitely agree with that and I'm not sure how you can
redo that area to make it more conducive to families or make it less appealing to those who want
o vandalize it but I think you're on the right road in this vein unfortunately. But if you have any
other questions, please call me at home, my number is 952-470-8148. Thanks Todd.
offman, Todd
From:
Sent:
To:
Subject:
Joanne Killian [josie@visi.com]
Wednesday, May 16, 2001 4:29 PM
thoffman @ ci.chanhassen.m n. us
Herman Field Park
Card for Joanne Killian
Todd Hof fman:
I received the letter regarding Herman Field Park and it's possible
relocation. In the letter, you stated that the city has spent thousands
of dollars repairing the playground equipment. I fail to see where this
money has been spent. Since last summer, both slides have been boarded
up since there are holes burned in them and they are unsafe. Each time
I am at the park, I spend the majority of my time there picking up
broken glass so my children don't have to wear shoes or worry about
playing in the rocks with their hands. I do not want to see this
playground equipment removed. The vandalism and broken bottles will
remain until there are serious consequences to these actions. Just
because the park is used lightly (I'm sure due to the fact that it is in
poor condition) it should not be removed for those of us who do use it.
If the decision is made to remove the equipment, I would like to suggest
some sort of access for our neighborhood to get to Excelsior Commons
park safely. Crossing two highways with children is not an acceptable
~., option for getting there.
Thank you for letting me voice my opinion.
Joanne Kiltian
2449 W 64th St
Excelsior, MN
952-474-4364
josie~visi.com
55331
offman, Todd
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To:
Cc:
Subject:
Jessica Paxton [jpaxton @ blakeschool.org]
Tuesday, May 15, 2001 10:34 AM
thoffman @ci.chanhassen.mn.us
dpaxton @ allina.com; jlash @ ci.chanhassen.mn.us
Herman Field Park
Dear Todd,
I am sending this email in response to your recent letter regarding the
possible removal of the Herman Field Park Playground in Chanhassen.
My husband, Dean Paxton, and I live at 2611 Orchard Lane in Chanhassen,
just north of Herman Field Park. I'm sure you're familiar with our
names:
we have committed ourselves to assisting the city in improving the
conditions of this park -- for both those that use the park and those
that
live nearby. In addition to attending city council meetings and
distributing flyers to the neighborhood on the city's behalf, our daily
"park patrol" continues.
We are the ones (and to be honest, it seems like we're the only ones)
that
make a point of walking down to the park to pick up garbage (broken beer
bottles, cigarette butts, fast food wrappers and the occasional used
condom) and continue to put ourselves on the line by calling the police
to
investigate underage drinking, broken curfews and reckless driving. I
can
not keep track of the number of times during the afternoons and evenings
(and I'm not talking about weekends) that cars go whipping down to the
park -- so fast that they literally can not stay on the winding curve of
the access road to the park, and I watch in fear that a small child on a
bike or neighbor walking their dog will find themselves in the path of
these extremely reckless drivers. It is with regard to this situation
that I agree with the reasoning behind the city's proposal: Herman
Field
Park does indeed continue to be vandalized and to be a destination for
illegal and inappropriate behavior.
But I do not believe your proposal is the answer.
I strongly disagree on two points. First of all, we rarely -- if ever
see any sort law enforcement patrol at the park. Now, obviously we're
not
always home nor are we always watching who drives down to the park. But
what you refer to in your letter as a "higher than average patrol
schedule" simply does not happen. And it's certainly not happening
during
times when there's high activity in the park (for example, right after
school gets out and later in the evenings after curfew).
The only "regular" patrol at Herman Field is provided by my husband and
I.
As mentioned before, we make a point of cleaning up and checking out
suspicious behavior. And we also simply want to establish a presence in
the park and send a message: it's not just a place to hang out and
drink
or smoke; it's a recreational park used by the families and children of
the neighborhood.
(I must let you know that these efforts on our part make me very
uncomfortable because it puts my family and home in a vulnerable
position.
But at the same time, we can't just sit there and do nothing and
witness
the overtaking of this park by a handful of disrespectful teens. For
the
record, it's the same kids and the same cars that we see almost daily,
and
in spite of the fact that we've provided license plate numbers and car
descriptions to the police, the same cars and the same kids continue to
frequent the park and threaten us and our neighbors with their dangerous
driving and verbal abuse.)
Even more disturbing is that in the instances when we do witness illegal
behavior, every time we call 911 to report this suspicious activity (as
we
have been encouraged to do by the city), the operator answering the call
never even knows where Herman Field Park is! Each and every time we
have
to explain where the park is located and literally have to give
directions
to the park. And even then, no one comes in any sort of timely manner.
It's ridiculous -- and frightening. What if there was a serious medical
emergency? If this park is truly on a regular patrol schedule and the
police have been alerted to the ongoing problems in this park, how can
mo
one seem to know what it is or where it is or who these perpetrators
are?
Secondly, I also disagree with your statement that "the playground is
lightly used." Yes, it could (and should) be used more but the
neighbors
want to use Herman Field Park and, even with the existence of a
dangerous
and destructive element in this park, they make the effort to do so. I
see mothers with strollers, young children on bicycles and scooters, and
people walking their dogs on a regular basis. More and more families
with
young children are moving into the neighborhood and I've spoken with
many
of the mothers. Time and again I am told that one of the reasons
they've
chosen this neighborhood is because of the close proximity to the park.
Unfortunately, though, once they've lived here for a while and witnessed
the ongoing problems in the park and seen the cars driving recklessly in
and out of it, many parents (especially young mothers) feel intimidated
and threatened and don't want themselves or their children down there
alone.
On a related note, I believe the current condition of the playground
equipment is a deterrent for children and keeps them from using it. For
example, following an arson incident on the slide almost a year ago, the
slide was boarded up rather than being immediately repaired. Granted,
I'm
sure this was initially done to avoid another attempt at arson or
vandalism but it has been months and the slide is still boarded up.
Obviously this prevents play.
My greatest fear is that the removal of the playground equipment from
Herman Field Park will be the next step toward the ultimate decline of
this beautiful park. In addition, by doing so, you'd be letting the
teenage kids that are destroying this park "win." Our neighborhood
truly
eeds your help in bringing this area back to the people and taxpayers
that live there. We need more patrol and more interaction with law
enforcement personnel. We need to know and feel your presence! I
believe
that if families and children felt comfortable and safe, they would use
the park and playground more often. But until the city of Chanhassen
really makes a commitment to law enforcement in Herman Field Park, the
citizens of the neighborhood will continue to feel threatened and
intimidated by those that feel they can get away with anything down
there
(and for now, they seemingly can and are).
Thank you for asking for our input and feelings regarding this issue.
Please do not hesitate to contact us with any questions or for
additional
information and assistance. We continue to be committed to our
neighborhood and sincerely appreciate the ongoing efforts by the City
Council and the Park and Recreation Commission in helping to make Herman
Field Park a better place for all to enjoy.
Sincerely,
Dean & Jessica Paxton
952/470-5894
age 1 of 1
Hoffman, Todd
From: Your Name [HANILY@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:11 AM
To: thoffman @ ci.chanhassen.mn.us
Subject: Herman Field Park
To: Cityof Chanhassen
Attn: Jan Lash
Re: Herman Park
Herman Park is our neighborhood playground. It is not the neighborhood kids that are vandalizing the
equipment, leaving used condoms, seringes, beer bottles etc. strewn about. The neighbors originally did not
want this park to be developed due to the location and the fact that we do not get city services out this way as
you do closer to the downtown area.
You are not talking about a great deal of equipment. We suggest to you that you leave the playground
equipment in Herman Park and take care of the problem people coming to the park for the wrong reasons.
By removing the equipment, you are not solving the problem, which will continue. We need more police
patrols, for one. Maybe gates. Do NOT remove the equipment.
Pat and Ginny Hanily
2660 Orchard Lane
Excelsior, MN. 55331
5/17/01
offman, Todd
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Kelly R. Lewis [kellylisal @juno.com]
Monday, May 14, 2001 1:05 PM
thoffman @ ci.chanhassen, mn. us
Herman Field Park Playground
Kelly and Lisa Lewis
2651 Orchard Lane
Excelsior Mn 55331
(952)380-3409
May 14, 2001
To whom it may concern:
We are writing this letter in order to voice our concerns concerning the
Herman Field Park Playground.
We are strongly in opposition to the removal of the playground
equipment.
We recently moved into the area and were dismayed to find the park had
been vandalized. While we recognize that the vandalism is a problem, we
feel that removing the playground equipment will not be a solution and
may enhance the problem. We wish for the park to remain for the
following reasons:
1) The park is not as lightly used as one would presume, and if the
park
were a little more attractive, it's use would increase. We have two
children, 3 and 2 years old, and are expecting another. We use the park
frequently, at least 3 times a week. There are also a number of other
young families that have recently moved into the area who would use it
more frequently if it were not damaged. In addition to my family's use,
I teach piano lessons on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and there are parents
of
my students who take their other children to the park while they are
waiting for the lesson to be completed. I also watch three other
children during the week, and they come with me to the park as well.
2) If the playground equipment were removed, this would reduce the
number of families that vendure that way, thus there would be less
people
in the area to discourage negative behavior. Whenever we walk down
there, people who are not there to use the park immediately leave. We
will not be going down to the park if there is no playground equipment.
3) Neighborhood watch, awareness, and other initiatives are a better
solution to keeping the park safe and free from vandalism. Simply
removing the park only hurts those who have done nothing wrong.
It is our neighborhood's park, let us help to keep the park safe and
child-friendly. We are more than willing to participate in neighborhood
programs in order to make good things happen at Herman Field Park and
reverse the negative onslaught of vandalism. We urge you to consider
our
requests and to give us that chance. Thank you for your consideration.
Respectfully Submitted,
Kelly, Lisa, Jonathan and Katie Lewis
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offman, Todd
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Friday, May 11, 2001 3:43 PM
thoffman @ci.chanhassen.rnn.us
(no subject)
Having been close to the plans for the development of Herman Field Park
from
its inception, the results to date are of no surprise. You simply cannot
develop a project such as the Herman Field one without either providing
much
better security or engaging the neighborhood in the over all care of the
park. How often we invest resources in capital projects without really
thinking through the possible outcomes. The obvious concern now is what
happens once the playground equipment is removed? I can almost guarantee
you
that other objects of vandalism will be found. By removing the equipment
you
treat only a symptom. The city created the park and it must insure its
upkeep
and safety with or without the playground equipment. As a resident who
lives
near the park and observes the activities in the park I believe that we
all
have a problem which was very predictable from the outset.
age 1 of 1
Hoffman, Todd
From: AMVJohnson @ cs.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 8:04 PM
To: thoffman @ ci.chanhassen.mn.us
Subject: Herman field Park Playground
Dear Mr. Hoffman,
First of all, thank you for your inquiry regarding Herman Park. I will try
to respond to your letter of May 2, 2001 as well as ask for clarification.
My husband and 1, along with our 2 children, have lived in the neighborhood
less than one year. We have visited Herman Park w times this winter and 3
times this spring just to check it out and see what is there.
Our discovery regarding the park is significant and this leads me to a point
of clarification. Much to our delight we discovered that Herman Park gives
safe, walking access to Minnewashta Regional Park. To the credit of the city,
Hermann Park always looks clean and tidy. As the marsh makes it impossible
for residents to boat or walk to the Regional Park it was great to discover a
public access.
To clarify your note to residents, do you mean to remove just the playground
equipment and leave the field as a public space? Was the land given in
public interest by Mr. Herman?
If the playground equipment is the only issue at hand, I would defer my
opinion to my other neighbors who know the use and history better than I do.
In the case of the area remaining a public space for the future (with no
equipment), but open and accessible and connected to the Regional Park, I
support this safe, green open space in the area very enthusiastically and
feel that maintenance of the grass, or at least pathways, is well warranted
in the summer.
1 think it is very important for Chanhassen Park and city leaders to reaffirm
that this piece of land is the only access we have to public space in our
neighborhood because of the marsh on one side and Highway 7 and County 41 on
the other. We may see a lake, but we don't have access except through the
park links.
Thank you for allowing me to voice my opinion and I look forward to your
clarification.
Alicia Johnson
2762 Piper Ridge Lane
952-401-0632
5/10/01
elephone Calls Regarding Herman Field Playground
May 9, 2001:
Hello Todd, this is Bob Bushway calling and I live at 2721 Sandpiper Trail. I got your
letter on Herman Field Park playground. Just to kind of let you know, we use that park a
lot and we haven't been able to use the slides because they've been wrecked. I have two
young kids and I know that in this area there are a lot of young kids that do use the park.
We walk to it and it is the only park that is accessible from our area without getting onto
Highway 7 or what not. It is the only park that provides access for about 200 residents in
this area, 200 homes--maybe that's a little high, but if you drive on Highway 7 there
you'll see the three exits and then the others are landlocked. So anyways, I would not
like to see that park go away, we do rise it, I know our neighbors use it and they have
young kids, and there are quite a few young families in this neighborhood, so I see the
park getting used a lot more. Hopefully it does not get closed.
Hello Todd, this is Lisa and Jerry Claus. We are responding to the letter we received
from your office regarding Herman Park and we live behind the vark at 2701 Piper Ridge
Lane and we have called the police numerous times because of disruptions during the
middle of the night and because of the destruction tkat has gone on at the park. We 100%
agree that the park should be closed, moved, whatever, sold to a developer, whatever, but
should not be in existence. It's too enclosed, there is only one exit. we feel it is not safe
for families to be down there with the kids and activities that are going on. You have our
whole-hearted blessing to get rid of the park and if this helps at all, we are happy to give
you our input and like I said, we live in the cul-de-sac behind the t~ark. Our number is
952-474-1826 if you have any additional questio.~s. Otherwise-g~, for it!
Todd, this is Tom Fisher, I live on Minnewashta Woods Drive, my number is 474-3481.
I couldn't agree more. Get rid of that park. All tt does is provide the teenagers around
here a place to drink beer, raise hobs. and hoot at~d holler all ever!:ng. Not only should
you remove all of the stuff from it, you should m~ke it impossible for those kids to go in
there and drive all over the place and raise hobs. tfyou want to ce. Il me, feel free to do
so, but that's how I feel. I thought about writing you a letter about it some time ago. I
should have done it, I guess. I'm sure every neig!:0or feels exacliv as I do. It is just a
place for the teenagers to drink beer. Thanks.
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offman, Todd
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thoffman @ ci.chanhassen.mn.us
Herman Field
Attn: Jan Lash
We are disappointed to learn of the consideration to close the Herman
Field
Playground. Since we do not have any walking trails in this area, it is
the
one place Senior Citizens could safely walk. Many young people of this
area
push their baby strollers down there during the day. The vandalism most
likely occurs late at night when we hear the cars roaring down Orchard
Lane
and Forest Avenue. When the park was first proposed, we asked that it
be
gated at sundown, as most parks are. We still feel that this could be
the
solution. Our newest neighbors, the Dragseths even offered to close the
gate
each evening it it is too much trouble for the local authorities. Who
locks
the other park gates? We too, have been concerned about the vandalism,
noise
and cigarette butts which we frequently pick up. Mrs. Hermann made a
very
generous gift to the city and we would like it used in the way she
intended.
Sincerely, Edith and Ralph Livingston
offman, Todd
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Wednesday, May 09, 2001 2:02 PM
thoffman @ ci.chanhassen.mn, us
Herman Field Park Playground
Hi Todd,
Thanks for your letter. We live at 2751 Piper Ridge Lane and used to go
down to the park once or twice a week. Since it has been vandalized, we
have gone down there a lot less. I understand the problem the City is
having with the area, and would be in favor of moving the playground to
a
new location, as long as it remains in our neighborhood (Minnewashta
Manor).
If you cannot find a location in our neighborhood, then I would like the
playground equipment to remain, simply for the fact that it is close
enough
for us to walk to, and really serves as our only neighborhood park.
Perhaps if the equipment was moved closer to the road there would be
less of
a problem with vandalization.
Thanks for your letter, and for taking the time to review my comments.
Kim McReavy
offman, Todd
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Wednesday, May 09, 2001 12:37 PM
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Herman Park
City of Chanhassen
Park and Recreation Commission
690 City Center Drive
P.O. Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
May 9, 2001
Dear Jan Lash and Todd Hoffman:
In regards to your letter dated May 2, 2001 on the use and misuse of
Herman Park, I have some concerns of my own. I agree that the park is
lightly used and certainly abused by vandals and the likes. But, I think
that removing the park and relocating the equipment is a bad idea.
Myself and other neighbors would certainly frequent the park more often
if it was of more recreational use, such as having a multi-functional
field for baseball, soccer, softball, and football. I believe that if
the large grass area (preserving the playground equipment area) was
turned into at least a functional practice field for multiple sports,
the park would be in high demand and definitely used. If the park is in
constant use, this would reduce, if not eliminate the vandalism of the
park.
As a coach for baseball (STLL), softball (CAA Youth), and football (LMAA
& Pop Warner), practice fields are hard to find. Herman Park is an ideal
area for the Chanhassen and South Tonka area residents involved in these
sports. But, the park is currently a very limited use park and focused
towards younger children (ages 4 - 8) that need supervision and I have
found that parents of younger children are not going to frequent the
parks as much as the next older generation or involved in the sports
programs. Sure, it will cost a little more money to develop this park
into what I have described, but so is relocating or repairing the
vandalized equipment each year. I think the investment will certainly be
well worth the money for the community and I believe others will agree
with me. And not only in the immediate neighborhood, but stretching the
entire Lake Minnewashta area.
My son had proposed the same request to Mayor Jansen during her visit
before last election, but at 12 years old, was not sure how ~o
accomplish this task. So, I have decided to take an active interest in
this issue and hope to keep our park. Please listen to us and guide us
in the right direction to save the park. As Director of Parks and
Recreation, what advice can you give us in considering this request? I
am not sure that enough residents will speak up or even read the letter
and that concerns me too. So, if there is anything we can do, we will
surely attempt it.
Thanks for hearing us and hopefully we can do something.
Sincerely,
Thanks,
Rodney G. Doop
2705 Sandpiper Trail
Chanhassen, MN 55331
KELLY LAW OFFICES
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Jan Lash
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City of Chanhasscn
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RECEIVED
MAY 1 5 2001
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Re: Proposal to remove Herman Field playground
l)car Chair ofd~c Park anct Rccrcatio~ Commission, Mayor and City Council members:
I read with dismay the notice from Mr. Hofl¼tan that in the wisdom of thc Park and Recreation
Commissiou Herman Field park is a candidate for disinelnl)crment. I am appalled.
1'hc ])ark is die only Git)' amenity in o~!r ncighl)orhood ami my children use and enjoy its ,,wings
and slides. The park is a very pleasant oasis. Utffortunately, its peaceful se('lusion has made it
the choi('t, of vandals and youths seeking a place to drink and carry on undisturbed. For these
reasons I canuot allow nay children to visit tl~c park without the company of an aduh. Worse, the
behavior I bare observed displayed by these youths has l)een threatening and deplorable.
Enter thc Sherit]: Four years ago I never saw a patrol ('ar in my neighborhood. In the last ,,,'car
Sheriff' patrol cars have been observed from time to time. That these occasional visits, and a
lame neighborhood watch sign, have not stemmed park vandalism is obvious.
Now in the disguise of efficient usc of resources, it is proposed that all family amenities be
removed and thc park abandoned to the delinquents. While all can applaud efficiency, this
proposal ignores the legal duty of thc City to protect thepublic health, safer)' and welfare. Therefore, if
thc park is plagued by criminals police it. Iustall video cameras, telephones, and gate it after
hours. Make the delinquclas uncomfortable and lhey will go away. This will improve public
safety and protect the previous invest:ncnt of public funds in Parkland and playground
cquil)ment.
The true steward of tile public assets first protects and maintains existing improvements. If that
n,'m~s investing in security measures bcfbre nc~ park equipment, so be it. In any (went, the City
sho~dd invest and maintain its estal)lished parks in a manner that benefits the surrounding
lhmilies cquital)ly. Nc) neighloorhood should be iml)ovcrishcd or allowed to be a haven fbr
t riminals })e('attse the City is unwilling to l)oli('e itself.
Thc proposal to dismantle Herman Field would never have bccn floated had it been located ill a
more politically significant neighborhood. The demand for park equipment in new subdMsions
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must not be met by cannibalizing established parks. Moreover City policy should be adopted
that would obstruct such efforts. Doing so will avoid thc politicization of Park aud Recreation
ass('t management.
Sincerdy,
~lark W. Kelly
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