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CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
SUMMARY MINUTES
OCTOBER 19, 2004
Chairman Sacchet called the meeting to order at 7 :00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Vli Sacchet, Steve Lillehaug, Bethany Tjornhom, Kurt Papke,
Rich Slagle and Craig Claybaugh
MEMBERS ABSENT: Dan Keefe
ST AFF PRESENT: Sharmeen AI-Jaff, Senior Planner; Josh Metzer, Planner I; and Matt
Saam, Assistant City Engineer
PUBLIC PRESENT FOR ALL ITEMS:
Janet Paulsen
7302 Laredo Drive
PUBLIC HEARING:
SITE PLAN REVIEW AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR RETAIL
BUILDING LOCATED AT HIGHWAYS 7 AND 41, PLANNING CASE NO. 04-34.
Public Present:
Name
Address
Dave Willadsen
Brian Mundstock
2325 Melody Hill
9905 Johnson Circle
Sharmeen AI-Jaff presented the staff report on this item. Commissioner Lillehaug
expressed concern with the proposed building blocking the view of the current store
front. Sharmeen AI-Jaff clarified that it was the same owner for both buildings. Brian
Mundstock with Sunday Engineering, the consulting civil engineers for the project stated
he has been working with staff on the approvals with respect to the green space, the
amount of impervious and questions regarding storm water management. Chairman
Sacchet called the public hearing to order. Dave Willadsen, 2325 Melody Hill Road
asked the Planning Commission to keep in mind the traffic concerns at the entrance on
Highway 41. Chairman Sacchet closed the public hearing.
Lillehaug moved, Claybaugh seconded that the Planning Commission recommends
approval of Site Plan #04-34 for a 6,400 square foot retail building and a conditional
use permit to allow multiple buildings on a single lot as shown on the plans dated
Received September 17, 2004, subject to the following conditions:
Planning Commission Summary - October 19, 2004
1. Applicant shall preserve all existing trees outside of the grading limits. Any trees
removed outside of the limits will be replaced at a rate of 2: 1 diameter inches.
2. Applicant shall install tree preservation fence at the edge of grading limits along
the west property line and around the landscape island in the parking lot.
3. All plans must be signed by a registered civil engineer in the State of Minnesota.
4. Show the dimensions of the new parking stalls on the site plan. The new parking
stalls are required to be 9 feet wide.
5. Add the latest City Standard Detail Plate Nos. 1006,2101,3101,3102,5300,
5302A.
6. On the plans, show the proposed water pipe CL52 and sewer class SDR35.
7. On the grading plan:
a. Add a benchmark.
b. Add a legend.
c. Show the parking stall grades for the accessible stall. The maximum slope
must not exceed 2%.
8. Installation of the private utilities for the site will require permits and inspections
through the City's Building Department.
9. The applicant must show the location/elevation of an emergency overflow point
along the west side of the building that is 1.5 feet lower than the proposed
building elevation.
10. Storm sewer sizing calculations will be required at the time of building permit
application. The proposed storm sewer must be sized for a 10 year storm event.
11. Sanitary sewer and water hookup charges will be applicable for the new building.
The 2004 trunk hookup charge is $1,458 per unit for sanitary sewer and $2,814
per unit for watermain. The 2004 SAC charge is $1,425 per unit. All of these
charges are based on the number of SAC units calculated by the Met Council.
These charges will be collected at the time of building permit issuance. Sanitary
sewer and watermain hookup fees may be specially assessed against the parcel.
12. Fire Marshal conditions:
a. Yellow curbing and "no parking fire lane" signs will be required. Contact the
Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location of yellow curbing and location of
signs to be installed.
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Planning Commission Summary - October 19,2004
b. The building must comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention
Division Policies 34-1993, 36-1994, 29-1991, 07-1991, 06-1991, and 04-
1991. Copies enclosed.
13. Building Official conditions:
a. The building is required to be protected by automatic fire extinguishing
systems.
b. The plans must be prepared and signed by design professionals licensed in the
State of Minnesota.
c. Submit a site plan indicating the location of all property lines.
d. An eight foot access aisle is required for the accessible parking space.
e. Detailed occupancy related requirements cannot be reviewed until complete
plans are submitted.
f. The owner and/or their representatives shall meet with the Inspections
Division as soon as possible to discuss plan review and permit procedures.
14. All roof top equipment shall be screened.
15. The applicant shall enter into a site plan agreement with the City and provide the
necessary financial securities.
16. Wall signs shall be permitted on the east elevation of the building only and must
comply with Neighborhood Business District requirements. The applicant must
obtain a sign permit prior to erecting any signs on site. A detailed sign plan
incorporating the method of lighting acceptable to staff should be provided prior
to requesting a sign permit.
17. The applicant shall provide a survey signed by a registered land surveyor
verifying that the hard surface coverage on this site does not exceed 65%.
18. A detailed lighting plan is required and only shielded fixtures are allowed as
prescribed by ordinance.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6 to O.
PUBLIC HEARING:
VARIANCE FOR LOCATING A STRUCTURE AND GRADING WITHIN THE
BLUFF ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8850 AUDUBON ROAD, PLANNING
CASE NO. 04-33.
Public Present:
Name
Address
Steve & Mary Pat Monson
8850 Audubon Road
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CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 19, 2004
Chairman Sacchet called the meeting to order at 7 :00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Uli Sacchet, Steve Lillehaug, Bethany Tjornhom, Kurt Papke,
Rich Slagle and Craig Claybaugh
MEMBERS ABSENT: Dan Keefe
STAFF PRESENT: Sharmeen AI-Jaff, Senior Planner; Josh Metzer, Planner I; and Matt
Saam, Assistant City Engineer
PUBLIC PRESENT FOR ALL ITEMS:
Janet Paulsen
7302 Laredo Drive
PUBLIC HEARING:
SITE PLAN REVIEW AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR RETAIL
BUILDING LOCATED AT HIGHWAYS 7 AND 41, PLANNING CASE NO. 04-34.
Public Present:
Name
Address
Dave Willadsen
Brian Mundstock
2325 Melody Hill
9905 Johnson Circle
Sharmeen AI-Jaff presented the staff report on this item.
Sacchet: Thanks Sharmeen. Questions from staff. No questions? Any questions? Yes,
Steve.
Lillehaug: I have one. Looking on your layout there, there is a building in the southwest
corner of the site. With this new building, in the southwest. There you go. With the new
building there, it seems like it's going to be covering up and I apologize. I didn't get out
there to see what that store frontage is, but it looks like that new building is going to be
covering a portion of that store front up. Is that okay by the tenants and the owner of that
building in the southwest there?
AI-Jaff: It is the same owner for both.
Lillehaug: But are there any concerns with covering up a good portion of that store front
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Planning Commission Meeting - October 19,2004
Sacchet: It actually isn't a store front. Not on the north, short end there. Isn't it on the
little piece that sticks out kind of towards the east. See what I'm talking about?
Lillehaug: That'd be the west side.
Sacchet: Yes. Yeah, that corner is the store front.
Lillehaug: Okay.
Sacchet: The corner is the store front. Not necessarily the very north, that short stretch
of the building there.
Lillehaug: So there's no concerns with that then.
AI-Jaff: I haven't heard anything from anyone.
Sacchet: But we can ask the applicant. Yeah, good question. Any other questions?
With that, I'll open the public hearing. This is open for comments from anybody who'd
like to speak up. If you want to come forward. Oh no, the applicant first. Sorry. Sorry,
before, I'm ahead of myself. Does the applicant want to come forward? Yeah, if you
want to add anything to what Sharmeen presented. Sorry, I got my sequence a little
garbled here. We'll get to you in a minute.
Brian Mundstock: My name is Brian Mundstock. I'm with Sunday Engineering. We're
the consulting civil engineers for the project and been working with Sharmeen on the
approvals with respect to the green space and the amount of impervious and all those
questions regarding storm water management. With respect to the store front, Sharmeen
was right. It's the same owner and I know in my meetings with the overall owner, I
know he's been discussing that and that's something that he's working with his tenants.
And one of the reasons, one of the things you'll notice on the site plan is that this
building has been moved forward into the parking lot a little bit more than the original
master plan, so it's been brought forward. There's a little bit more green space on this
plan than was on the original drawing, and I guess one of the reasons he's doing that is to
try to keep that building from getting too hidden behind this forward building. And I
guess Sharmeen did a good job, if you've got any questions.
Sacchet: Okay, questions from the applicant.
Claybaugh: No questions.
Sacchet: Does that satisfy your question from before Steve? Okay. Thank you very
much. Now with that, we get to the public hearing. So I open the public hearing. If
there's anybody who wants to speak up, please come forward. State your name and
address for the record. You may want to pull the microphone a little bit up towards your
face.
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Dave Willadsen: I'm Dave Willadsen. I live 2325 Melody Hill, which is a property.
Can I point on here?
Sacchet: Yes you can.
Dave Willadsen: It'd be back in here.
Sacchet: Opposite of 41 ?
Dave Willadsen: Yeah. I'd just ask you to bear in mind that this is becoming a real crap
shoot sometimes. Getting out onto that highway. And this particular project here
probably is, you know by the looks of it, it's not large in comparison to everything else
but when you come out here and try to go this way, the whole traffic patterns are kind of
scary right in there.
Sacchet: So left turns are problematic?
Dave Willadsen: Yeah. And with the Cub up here, you get an awful lot of traffic along
here. Being unlighted, it's kind of a scary proposition right in there. But like I say, this
particular project, maybe it's not really relevant to that.
Sacchet: Well I appreciate you bringing it up. Do you want to address that from an
engineering side?
Saam: I'll just say that right now there's a stop control at that intersection. I don't
believe, as the gentleman said, that this development is going to require a signal to be
justified there. Just based on the traffic and.
Sacchet: We're not quite there yet.
Saam: Yeah. I don't think so but.
Sacchet: Thank you bringing it up. Anybody else wants to comment to this project?
This is your chance. I see nobody getting up so I'll close the public hearing. Bring it
back to the commission for discussion, comments. Anybody want to start? You want to
start? Go ahead Kurt.
Papke: I support this. This is the right spot for a project like this. With the expansion of
the strip mall on the other side of Highway 7 with the new Cub, very appropriate for the
location for this to be, to move forward so I have no issues with it. It looks, it's the right
development at the right spot.
Sacchet: Anybody else want to add anything to this? Steve.
Lillehaug: One quick comment here. It looks like staff recommended, requiring a
lighting plan. And it looks like we might need to add a condition on that so.
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Sacchet: The condition of lighting plan is not in there, is that your point?
Lillehaug: Unless I'm missing it somewhere.
Sacchet: Alright, we can add that.
Lillehaug: I support it.
Sacchet: Okay. Any other comments? Points? Okay. I don't have anything to add so
with that I'd be happy to take a motion.
Lillehaug: I make a motion the Planning Commission recommends approval of Site Plan
04-34 for a 6,400 square foot retail building and a conditional use permit to allow
multiple buildings on a single lot as shown on the plans dated received September 17,
2004, subject to the following conditions, 1 through 17 and add 18. A detailed lighting
plan is required and only shielded fixtures are allowed as prescribed by ordinance.
Sacchet: Okay. We have a motion. Is there a second?
Claybaugh: I'll second.
Lillehaug moved, Claybaugh seconded that the Planning Commission recommends
approval of Site Plan 04-34 for a 6,400 square foot retail building and a conditional
use permit to allow multiple buildings on a single lot as shown on the plans dated
received September 17, 2004, subject to the following conditions:
1. Applicant shall preserve all existing trees outside of the grading limits. Any trees
removed outside of the limits will be replaced at a rate of 2: 1 diameter inches.
2. Applicant shall install tree preservation fence at the edge of grading limits along
the west property line and around the landscape island in the parking lot.
3. All plans must be signed by a registered civil engineer in the State of Minnesota.
4. Show the dimensions of the new parking stalls on the site plan. The new parking
stalls are required to be 9 feet wide.
5. Add the latest City Standard Detail Plate Nos. 1006,2101,3101,3102,5300,
5302A.
6. On the plans, show the proposed water pipe CL52 and sewer class SDR35.
7. On the grading plan:
a. Add a benchmark.
b. Add a legend.
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c. Show the parking stall grades for the accessible stall. The maximum slope
must not exceed 2%.
8. Installation of the private utilities for the site will require permits and inspections
through the City's Building Department.
9. The applicant must show the location/elevation of an emergency overflow point
along the west side of the building that is 1.5 feet lower than the proposed
building elevation.
10. Storm sewer sizing calculations will be required at the time of building permit
application. The proposed storm sewer must be sized for a 10 year storm event.
11. Sanitary sewer and water hookup charges will be applicable for the new building.
The 2004 trunk hookup charge is $1,458 per unit for sanitary sewer and $2,814
per unit for watermain. The 2004 SAC charge is $1,425 per unit. All of these
charges are based on the number of SAC units calculated by the Met Council.
These charges will be collected at the time of building permit issuance. Sanitary
sewer and watermain hookup fees may be specially assessed against the parcel.
12. Fire Marshal conditions:
a. Yellow curbing and "no parking fire lane" signs will be required. Contact the
Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location of yellow curbing and location of
signs to be installed.
b. The building must comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention
Division Policies 34-1993, 36-1994, 29-1991, 07-1991, 06-1991, and 04-
1991. Copies enclosed.
13. Building Official conditions:
a. The building is required to be protected by automatic fire extinguishing
systems.
b. The plans must be prepared and signed by design professionals licensed in the
State of Minnesota.
c. Submit a site plan indicating the location of all property lines.
d. An eight foot access aisle is required for the accessible parking space.
e. Detailed occupancy related requirements cannot be reviewed until complete
plans are submitted.
f. The owner and/or their representatives shall meet with the Inspections
Division as soon as possible to discuss plan review and permit procedures.
14. All roof top equipment shall be screened.
15. The applicant shall enter into a site plan agreement with the City and provide the
necessary financial securities.
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16. Wall signs shall be permitted on the east elevation of the building only and must
comply with Neighborhood Business District requirements. The applicant must
obtain a sign permit prior to erecting any signs on site. A detailed sign plan
incorporating the method of lighting acceptable to staff should be provided prior
to requesting a sign permit.
17. The applicant shall provide a survey signed by a registered land surveyor
verifying that the hard surface coverage on this site does not exceed 65%.
18. A detailed lighting plan is required and only shielded fixtures are allowed as
prescribed by ordinance.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6 to O.
PUBLIC HEARING:
VARIANCE FOR LOCATING A STRUCTURE AND GRADING WITHIN THE
BLUFF ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8850 AUDUBON ROAD, PLANNING
CASE NO. 04-33.
Public Present:
Name
Address
Steve & Mary Pat Monson
Dennis & Ruth Chadderdon
8850 Audubon Road
8900 Audubon Road
Josh Metzer presented the staff report on this item.
Sacchet: Thank you. Questions from staff. Steve, you want to jump in?
Lillehaug: I have a couple questions. On the second page, and I think you also reiterated
it. There's two walls approximately 3 feet in height. They graded the driveway out
there. You say all of these improvements were made without a permit. You don't need a
permit for any of that work.
Metzer: Right, and that's why in the presentation I said or zoning compliance. I failed to
mention that in the report.
Lillehaug: And is that something, one of the new zoning permits that we require now, is
that it? I mean brand new within the last couple months? Is that right?
AI-Jaff: It's part of the amended ordinances. However, if you are grading within a bluff,
that's not a permitted action. And as far as the retaining wall, I don't know if Matt you
would like to address that.
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