PC Summary Minutes 10-5-04
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CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
SUMMARY MINUTES
OCTOBER 5, 2004
Chairman Sacchet called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dan Keefe, Bethany Tjomhom, Kurt Papke, Steve Lillehaug,
and Uli Sacchet. Rich Slagle arrived during item 3.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Craig Claybaugh
STAFF PRESENT: Kate Aanenson, Sharmeen AI-Jaff, Matt Saam, Paul Oehme, and
Justin Miller
2005 MUSA AREA UPDATE ON FEASIBILITY STUDY, CITY ENGINEER.
Paul Oehme provided an update on the feasibility study being prepared for the 2005
MUSA area, highlighting the infrastructure and design criteria that has been established.
Commissioner Lillehaug asked staff to explain the feasibility of extending services to the
southwest comer of the area, which has been requested by a land developer in that area.
He also asked for clarification of the proposed collector roadway system. Chairman
Sacchet asked for clarification on the roadway alignments and if there's any flexibility in
their locations. Commissioner Lillehaug asked staff if they were comfortable with the
touch down points established by the County. There was no action taken on this item.
PUBLIC HEARING:
SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN 8,068 SQUARE
FOOT BUILDING ON PROPERTY ZONED CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT
WITH AN AREA OF 1.24 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST
INTERSECTION OF WEST 78TH STREET AND GREAT PLAINS BOULEVARD,
THE GODDARD SCHOOL, FRED RIESE.
Public Present:
Name
Address
John Bertelsen
Joel Hussong
Andy Martin
Brandy Geiger
Fred & Valaire Riese
Chris Thompson
Rick & Kathie Engelhardt
Judy Schmieg
Joanne Meuwissen
201 West Travelers Trail, BV
2428 Minneapolis
1016 W. Ninth Avenue, King of Prussia
1016 W. Ninth Avenue, King of Prussia
9154 Sunnyvale Drive
Remax Action West
403 Santa Fe Trail
200 West 77th Street
201 West 77th Street
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Fred Prinz
Dick Mingo
Jack Atkins
408 Santa Fe Circle
7601 Great Plains Boulevard
220 West 78th Street
Sharmeen AI-Jaff presented the staff report and Kate Aanenson clarified the role of the
Planning Commission in review of this item. Commissioner Papke asked for clarification
on zoning regulations for a school versus a daycare, and traffic circulation interfering
with current uses. Commissioner Tjomhom asked about hours of drop off and pick up
for the school, ages of the children, and location of the playground equipment.
Commissioner Keefe had a concern with safety and security with traffic along West 78th
Street. Commissioner Lillehaug questioned the setbacks and landscaping.
Commissioner Tjomhom asked staff to explain what happens with the building if the
school use leaves. Chairman Sacchet asked for clarification on the retaining walls and
elevations on the site. He also expressed concern with the size of the roof. Fred Riese,
9154 Sunnyvale Drive, spoke on behalf of himself and his wife, Valaire Riese, the
applicants. He thanked city staff for their assistance and introduced the civil engineers
from John Oliver and Associates and support staff from Goddard School. Commissioner
Keefe asked Brandy Geiger with Goddard Schools to outline their program and how it
differs from other daycare/school programs. Commissioner Papke asked how
architecturally this proposed building compares with Goddard's prototypical building.
Commissioner Lillehaug asked the applicant to comment on the parking agreement with
the church and questioned the adequacy of the parking. Commissioner Keefe asked the
applicant to explain the traffic circulation patterns in relation to their drop off and pick up
of students. Commissioner Papke and Chairman Sacchet asked the applicant to clarify
the color and height of the roof. Chairman Sacchet asked the applicant to elaborate on
the playground layout and size, and elevation of the site. John Bertelsen with John Oliver
and Associates explained how the building and amenities were located in relation to the
elevations of the site.
Chairman Sacchet opened the public hearing. Fred Prinz, 408 Santa Fe Circle presented
a petition signed by 160 people requesting that the property remain vacant and asked
what organization he should talk to regarding this issue. Justin Miller explained the
EDA's make-up and role in the decision making process. Jack Atkins, 220 West 78th
Street expressed concern that this use would be better located along Highway 5 on a
larger parcel and asked that this property be retained as open space. He also had concern
with the size of the roof. Dick Mingo, 7601 Great Plains Boulevard, a 47 year resident of
the community, stated he's not against a school but thinks this is the wrong site. He feels
the site should remain a park to go along with the historical area of old village hall and
old St. Hubert's Church. He suggested using the site for a Veteran's Memorial or a
Pioneer Memorial honoring the pioneers of this community. He also expressed concern
with the locations of the playgrounds. Judy Schmieg, 200 West 77th Street asked for
clarification that this was a public hearing and that the residents of Chanhassen own the
property that's described as Lot 1, Block 1, Old Village Hall. Kate Aanenson clarified
the role of the Planning Commission is to decide whether or not this site plan meets with
the zoning code. The Planning Commission does not have the jurisdiction to decide
whether or not this piece of property should be sold. Judy Schmieg expressed frustration
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at the public hearing process and asked who the public, the 160 signatures on the petition,
need to talk to about keeping this parcel vacant. Chairman Sacchet suggested contacting
the mayor and City Council members with their concerns. She also expressed concern
that this was a daycare center, and asked if it was licensed with the State of Minnesota.
She also had concerns with traffic from this site interfering with the Dinner Theater
traffic and city traffic on Great Plains Boulevard and West 78th Street. Chris Thompson,
representing Remax Action West, stated their concern with an island in the parking lot
interfering with the traffic flow from their site. He suggested re-writing their easement to
lose one of the spots in the parking lot and cut back on this existing island to make a
more reasonable entrance into the Remax Action West site. He also proposed that there
be some common signage associated with Remax, the proposed school, the church and/or
city hall in this general area to help guide people as to where they're going. Chairman
Sacchet closed the public hearing.
Planning Commissioners asked Justin Miller to clarify what agreements exist with the
property and if there is any verbiage that this site was planned as park and open space.
Kate Aanenson clarified that this site is zoned commercial, not parks and open space.
Dick Mingo commented that he felt it was dirty pool for the city to eliminate a business
place that had been there since 1933 and now replace it with another business place.
After commissioner comments, the following motion was made.
LilIehaug moved, Papke seconded that the Planning Commission recommends
approval of Site Plan 04-32 for an 8,068 square foot building to house a school as
shown on the plans dated received September 3, 2004, subject to the following
conditions:
1. Applicant shall preserve all existing trees south of the grading limits and outside of
the property lines. Any trees removed will be replaced at a rate of 2: 1 diameter
inches.
2. Applicant shall move the red maple shown in the southeastern comer of the site to a
location within the grading limits. A revised landscape plan shall be submitted to the
city.
3. Permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies will have to be obtained including
but not limited to the MPCA and Watershed District.
4. Add detail sheet showing City Detail Plate Nos. 1002, 1006,2001,3101,3102,5201,
5203,5214 and 5300.
5. Sanitary sewer and water hookup charges are applicable for the new building. The
2004 trunk hookup charge is $1,458 for sanitary sewer and $2,814 for watermain.
Sanitary sewer and watermain hookup fees may be specially assessed against the
parcel at the time of building permit issuance. All of these charges are based on the
number of SAC units assigned by the Met Council.
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