PC Minutes 4-19-05
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
APRIL 19, 2005
Chairman Sacchet called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Uli Sacchet, Kurt Papke, Mark Undestad, Dan Keefe, Jerry
McDonald and Deborah Zorn
MEMBERS ABSENT: Debbie Larson
ST AFF PRESENT: Kate Aanenson, Community Development Director; Bob Generous, Senior
Planner; and Matt Saam, Assistant City Engineer
PUBLIC PRESENT FOR ALL ITEMS:
Debbie Lloyd
Janet Paulsen
Mike Peka
7302 Laredo Drive
7305 Laredo Drive
6857 Manchester Drive
PUBLIC HEARING:
REQUEST FOR SUBDIVISION WITH VARIANCES ON PROPERTY LOCATED
SOUTH OF HIGHWAY 7 AND WEST OF HIGHWAY 41. SEVEN FORTY-ONE
CROSSING SECOND ADDITION. THOMAS HODORFF. APPLICANT. PLANNING
CASE NO. 05-13.
Bob Generous presented the staff report on this item.
Sacchet: Thank you Bob. Questions from staff. Any questions? Dan, you have a question?
Keefe: Sure. Cross access agreement. Just a couple questions. One is the cross access
agreement is for what, 8 spaces is additional spaces? Additional spaces. Is that what it is? Can
you just talk to that briefly.
Generous: For the cross parking.
Keefe: Cross parking, I'm sorry. Cross parking.
Generous: Access is just to get onto the site. They show 8 parking spaces on their property.
The balance of the spaces, 24 are on the surrounding property. But there's sufficient availability
or capacity on the site to accommodate that. So we haven't seen any issues with parking up in
the Seven Forty One Crossing.
Keefe: Okay. Then one other question in regards to you know currently I think there's a
disposal or trash container I think on the site that they're going to subdivide, which I think
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supports the Movie Gallery propelty and Second Wind I think is the other tenant in there. Are
we going to keep that trash disposal on that site or what is that?
Generous: No, that would have to move to the other property and we'll have to, we'll make
them comply with the ordinance for screening.
Keefe: Okay. So we would have them erect a fenced in enclosure on.
Generous: Yeah. Or some are landscaping. Some in area that they can screen the trash
enclosure pursuant to city ordinances.
Keefe: Okay.
Sacchet: Any other questions? I'd like to pull up one question really. With that parking, and I
don't know whether you can answer that Bob or whether that would be a question for the
applicant. I mean I don't quite understand why they don't include that first double row of
parking into this propelty and then they would be very close to accommodating the requirement
on that particular parcel. Has that been addressed at all?
Generous: I wasn't advised of anything. That may be more appropriate for the applicant.
Sacchet: Okay, I'll ask that of the applicant then. Thank you. You have a question Kmt?
Papke: Yes. The Oliginal application required a conditional use pelmit to allow multiple
buildings on a single lot. As a result of this subdivision, does that CUP go away or what?
Generous: It will be superceded by the plat so it becomes unnecessary, and I don't know if
we've recorded it yet or not.
Papke: So you don't know if the Oliginal one was recorded.
Generous: Recorded yet against the property.
Papke: So it could just be stricken from the application process?
Generous: Correct.
Papke: Okay.
Sacchet: Ahight. With that, do we have an applicant? Does the applicant want to come forward
and if you have anything to add, please do so. Please get to the microphone please because this
does get televised.
Tom Hodorff: Hello. My name's Tom Hodorff. I'm with Harry S. Johnson Land Surveyors out
of Bloomington. We're doing this subdivision for PBK, a developer that just needed, we did the
original survey and they just came up with these some type of financing thing that they wanted
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this as a separate lot. We've been working with the city to create a separate tax parcel for, you
know and that's a little beyond a surveyor's.
Sacchet: That's their reasoning, right?
Tom HodOlff: Yep.
Sacchet: Can you address the question I was just asking staff? I mean it seems kind of awkward
that the cross parking agreement would be for just more or less what, that first double row of
parking would be to the east.
Tom Hodorff: I believe, you know if we added more, it had to do with the hard surface
calculations to get the hard surface percentages to conform and.
Sacchet: So there was a reason basically.
Tom HodOlff: Right. We couldn't otherwise then we would have probably had to go for a
variance but doing this configuration we avoided that.
Sacchet: That's an honest answer, thank you. Appreciate that.
Tom Hodorff: Yep. Yep.
Sacchet: Any other questions from the applicant? Jerry, go ahead.
McDonald: Yeah, on this parking. It says agreement here but would that be a covenant within
the deeds on these properties so that this new lot has access to that in the future as it changes
hands and everything?
Tom Hodorff: I would assume so, correct. You know that it would be an ongoing thing.
Whoever owns those properties, those agreements would continue on with the properties to cover
that.
Sacchet: Is that it? Alright. Thank you very much.
Tom Hodorff: Thank you.
Sacchet: Appreciate your input. This is a public hearing so if anybody wants to come up and
has any comment to this item, this is your chance. Seeing nobody getting up, I assume there's
nobody. I will close the public hearing. Bring back to the commission for discussion and
eventually a motion. Is there any comments, discussion necessary on this? Doesn't seem so. If
not, let's make a motion.
Papke: Okay, I'll make a motion that the Planning Commission recommends approval of
preliminary plat 05-13 for the subdivision of 5.2 acres into 2 lots, as shown on the plans dated
received March 18,2005 subject to conditions 1 through 4.
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Sacchet: We have a motion. Is there a second?
McDonald: Second.
Papke moved, McDonald seconded that the Planning Commission recommends approval of
Preliminary Plat 05-13 for the subdivision of 5.2 acres into two lots, as shown on the plans
dated Received March 18,2005, subject to the following conditions:
1. At this time the estimated total SWMP fee due payable to the City at the time of final plat
recording is $74,089.00.
2. Lot 2, Block 1, Seven Forty One Crossing Second Addition is subject to a park dedication fee
as a condition of approval for subdivision. Park dedication fees for Lot 2 will total $5900
(25,749 square feet or 0.59 acres X $10,000 per acre).
3. The applicant shall provide a cross parking agreement in favor of Lot 2. The agreement shall
specify that Lot I will have access to 24 parking spaces located on Lot 2.
4. A cross access agreement shall be recorded across Lot 1 for the benefit of Lot 2.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6 to O.
PUBLIC HEARING:
REQUEST FOR REZONING FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL, RR TO SINGLE
FAMIL Y RESIDENTIAL, RSF; SUBDIVISION REVIEW FOR 40 LOTS, 3 OUTLOTS
AND PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH VARIANCES; AND A WETLAND
AL TERA TION PERMIT FOR THE GRADING AND FILLING OF WETLANDS ON
SITE. PROPERTY CONSISTING OF 62 ACRES LOCATED AT 6950 GALPIN
BOULEVARD. LAKE HARRISON. APPLICANT. PEMTOM LAND COMPANY.
PLANNING CASE NO. 05-14.
Public Present:
Name
Address
Jacqie Daughelty & Ray Alstad
Jim & Cheri Broughton
Julie Fuecker
Kevin Finger
Lynn Eggers
Cari Piatkowski
John Moberg
John Holcomb
Judy Stretar
Justin Larson
2423 Highover Trail
6927 Highover Comt North
6751 Manchester Drive
7052 Hanison Hill Trail
6791 Briar'wood Comt
6833 Manchester Dlive
6738 Manchester Drive
6852 Briarwood Comt
6801 Manchester Drive
Westwood Professional Services
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