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Minnesota Department of Transportation
Metropolitan District
Waters Edge
1500 West County Road B-2
Roseville MN 55113-3174
REceiVED
DEC 1 5 2004
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
December 14,2004
Ms. Kate Aanenson
Community Development Director
City of Chanhassen
7700 Market Boulevard, P.O. Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
SUBJECT:
Fox Property Concept PUD- MnlDOT Review # S04-096
Northwest side of proposed new Trunk Highway (TH) 212/312, and west and
east of Powers Boulevard, CSAR 17
Chanhassen, Carver County
CS: 1013
Dear Ms. Aanenson:
Thank you for the opportunity to review the above-referenced site plan. The Minnesota
Department of Transportation's (MnlDOT's) functional engineering units and related areas have
reviewed the plan. Before any further development, please address the following issues:
· The first road (street) west of Powers Boulevard (CSAR 17) needs to be located at least
660 feet west of Powers Boulevard, rather than the 300 feet depicted in the concept plan
(see attached map). The Mn/DOT Metro District AUAR review letter dated October 14,
2003 ("bullet" 3), letter enclosed, specified that distance from the Powers intersections
(Review # AUAR 03-007). The road west of Powers should include a Left Turn Lane
and a Right Turn Lane on the road opposite our ramps. It can be anticipated that when
vehicles exit TH 212/312 and stop at a red light (which creates a queue) and the light then
turns green and a vehicle continues through the intersection, the inevitable speed decrease
which happens when vehicles immediately slow down to turn left or right will adversely
affect the capacity (throughput) ofthe signalized TH 212/312 intersection. The farther
west of Powers Boulevard this first intersection is located, the better. For questions on
these points, please call Lars Impola, MnlDOT Metro District Traffic Studies Engineer,
at (651) 634-2379.
· A drainage permit may be required for this project. Current drainage rates to MnlDOT
right of way must be maintained, and the development must not increase runoff towards
Mn/DOT right of way from predeveloped conditions. The developer needs to submit
maps showing pre- and post-construction drainage areas, with flow directions indicated
by arrows. Ifthe development drains to Mn/DOT right of way, the maps should be
accompanied by drainage computations for pre- and post-construction conditions during
10 year and 100 year events. For questions on these points, please call Ms. Julie
Whitcher, Mn/DOT Metro District Water Resources Engineering Project Manager, at
(651) 634-2080.
An equal opportunity employer
Ms. Kate Aanenson
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December 14,2004
· Any use of or work within MnlDOT right of way requires a permit. Permit forms are
available from MnDOT's utility web site at www.dot.state.mn.us/tecsup/utility. Please
direct any questions regarding permit requirements to Keith V an Wagner (651-582-
1443), or Buck Craig (651-582-1447) ofMnDOT's Metro Permits Section.
· Mn/DOT's policy is to assist local governments in promoting compatibility between land
use and highways. Residential uses located adjacent to highways often result in
complaints about traffic noise. Traffic noise from this highway could exceed noise
standards established by the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency (MPCA), the U.S.
Department of Housing and Urban Development, and the U.S. Department of
Transportation. Minnesota Rule 7030.0030 states that municipalities are responsible for
taking all reasonable measures to prevent land use activities listed in the MPCA's Noise
Area Classification (NAC) where the establishment ofthe land use would result in
violations of established noise standards.
Mn/DOT policy regarding development adjacent to eXlstmg highways prohibits the
expenditure of highway funds for noise mitigation measures in such areas. The project
proposer should assess the noise situation and take the action deemed necessary to
minimize the impact of any highway noise. If you have any questions regarding
Mn/DOT's noise policy please contact Peter Wasko in our Design section at (651) 582-
1293.
· As a reminder, Powers Boulevard is County State Aid Highway (CSAH) Route 17. Any
work on a CSAH route must meet State Aid rules and policies. Also, the County must
review any changes to its County State Aid Highway system so that they stay within its
system limitations. Please note that CSAH 17 is Carver County's jurisdiction and the
County must have the opportunity to review and comment on the development as well.
You may obtain additional information regarding State Aid rules and policies in any of
the following ways:
~ http://www.dot.state.mn.us/stateaid/ shows or has links to the applicable forms and
the Mn/DOT State Aid Manual.
~ Refer to the MnlDOT State Aid Manual, Chapter 5-892.200 for information
regarding standards and policies.
~ Please go to http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/arule/8820/ for information regarding
State Aid Operations Rules Chapter 8820.
~ For driveway standards, the designer is directed to refer to the MnlDOT Road Design
Manual (English) Table 5-3.04A and Figure 5-3.04A for guidance and policies.
~ Please contact Jim Deeny in our State Aid section at (651) 582-1389 with any
additional questions.
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Ms. Kate Aanenson
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December 14, 2004
Please address all initial future correspondence for development activity such as plats and site
plans to:
Development Review Coordinator
MnJDOT - Metro Division
Waters Edge
1500 West County Road B-2
Roseville, Minnesota 55113
MnlDOT document submittal guidelines require three (3) complete copies of plats and two (2)
copies of other review documents including site plans. Failure to provide three (3) copies of a
plat and/or two (2) copies of other review documents will make a submittal incomplete and delay
MnJDOT's review and response to development proposals.
We appreciate your anticipated cooperation in providing the necessary number of copies, as this
will prevent us from having to delay and/or return incomplete submittals.
Feel free to contact me at (651) 582-1462 if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
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Marv McNeff ~7 /
Transportation Planner
Enclosures: 2- October 14, 2003 MnlDOT AUAR review letter; map
cc: Roger Gustafson, Carver County Engineer
John Freemyer, Carver County Surveyor
Jon Scalzo, DaWgren, Shardlow, and Uban, Inc., Minneapolis, MN
Dan Nichols, Schoell & Madson, Inc. Minneapolis, MN
Mike Byrd, Lundgren Company, Developers, Wayzata, MN
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October 14,2003
Ms. Kate Aanenson
Community Development Director
City of Chanhassen
7700 Market Boulevard, P.O. Box 147
Chanhassen, Minnesota 55317
Subject:
Chanhassen AUAR - Mn/DOT Review # AUAR #O3"()()7'
Northwest of Pioneer Trail (County Road 14) and proposed 1H 212/312
Chanhassen, Carver County
Control Section NA
Dear Ms. Aanenson:
Thank you for submitting the Chanhassen Alternative Urban Areawide Review (AUAR) dated
September 12, 2003 for Mn!DOT Metro District review. We offer the following comments with respect
to the draft AUAR: w__
· Mn/DOT will be acquiring additional Right of Way from this property for flood plain mitigation
on· the north side of Pioneer Trail, and the west side of the new Powers Boulevard extension.
For questions on this point, please contact Harold Larson, Mn/DOT Metro District Right of
Way Office, at (65 1) 582-1267.
· Detailed hydraulic computations will be needed to support specific development proposals for
this area, including narratives, and schematic drawings that depict how proposed projects relate
to Trunk Highway (TII) 212/312. Drainage permits may be required; determinations on
drainage permit needs will await Mn/DOT Metro District's receipt and review of specific
development plans. For questions on these points, please call Don Berre, MnlDOT Metro
District Water Resource Engineering, at (651) 634-2406.
· Direct connections to the 1H 212/312 Powers ramp terminals need special treatment and must
meet certain criteria in order to be approved byMn/DOT. The roadway must provide good
connections to the local street system such that through trips can be accommodated at
reasonable speeds. Accesses should be prohìbited on local streets within 660 (six hundred and
sixty) feet of the Powers intersections. The East - West Collector (across from the Powers
ramps) appears to meet this criteria, while the roadway connection to the south Powers ramps
does not. The roadway connection to the south Powers ramp would not be permitted, as
depicted in the draft AUAR. For questions on the following traffic comments, please contact
Lynn Clarkowski, Mn/DOT Metro District South Area Engineer, at (651) 634-2103.
· We believe that the Powers Boulevard bridge over 1H 212/312 should be sized to provide
necessary turn lanes. It appears the south ramp will require dual left turn lanes for southbound
to eastbound traffic (this will require a wider bridge).
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Ms. Kate Aanenson
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October 14, 2003
The original traffic analysis perfonned for TH 312 identified a need for only one (1) single left
turn lane southbound. Mn/DOT recommends that the additional left turn be included in the
mitigation plan in the final AUAR, as the site-generated traffic forces the need for a second left
turn lane.
· It appears that signals will be needed at both of theTH 2121312 Powers ramp termini. The
original traffic analysis perfolIDed for TH 312 did not support signals at these locations. We
believe that signals will be needed soon after development in this area occurs, and should be
planned for, and constructed, at the same time as TH 312 construction (signal costs to be
determined in accordance with MnlDOT's cost participation policy).
· The construction schedule for the east - west collector roadway should be coordinated by the
City so that the collector roadway opens concwTently with TH 312. Construction is currently
scheduled to start on the TH 212/312 Design - Build project in the Spring of 2005. If the
collector roadway is not constructed concurrently with TH 312, there will be congestion issues
with Lyman Boulevard, and Powers Boulevard.
· Any use of or work within Mn/DOT right of way requires a permit. Please direct questions
regarding permit applications to Keith Van Wagner (651-582-1443) ofMnlDOT's Permits
section.
. It is important that the City of Chanhassen coordinate with Mn/DOT Metro District regarding the final
tumlane geometrics at each of the TH 212/312 Powers Boulevard ramp terminals as soon as possible,
as the TH 212/312 Design - Build geometric layout is being fmalized.
As a reminder, for new development activity, such as plats and site plans located elsewhere in the City,
please send those documents to:
Tod Sherman
MnlDOT - Metro Division
Waters Edge
1500 West County Road B-2
Roseville, Minnesota 55113
Sincerely,
Marv McNeff
Transportation planner
Copy: Roger Gustafson, Carver County Engineer
John Freemyer, Carver County Surveyor
Ann Braden. Metropolitan Council
Brad Scheib, Hoisington Koelger Group, Inc.
Gary Ehret, Kimley Horn and Associates
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October 14, 2003
Copy: Lynn Clarkowski., MnIDOT Metro District South Area Engineer
Lisa Freese, MnIDOT Metro District South Area Manager
Jon Chigl0, Metro 212 Project Manager
Blind copies to me:
MnIDOT LGL File - City of Chanhassen
MnIDOT Division File: CS NA
Blind copies distributed via Groupwise:
Cindy Carlsson
Too Sherman
Ann Braden
Lisa Freese
Don Berre
Ken Ljung
Lynn Clarkowski.
. Harold Larson
Gene Hicks
Lars Impola
Brett Troyer
Curt Fakler
Jon Chiglo
Keith Van Wagner
Roger Gustafson
Carver County Engineer
600 East 4th Street
Chaska, MN 55318
John Freemyer
Carver County Surveyor
600 East 4th Street
Chaska, MN 55318
Brad Scheib
Hoisington Koelger Group, Inc.
123 North 3rd Street
Suite 100
Minneapolis, MN 55401
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