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PRC 2015 03 24 CHANHASSEN PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING MARCH 24, 2015 Chairman Kelly called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: Cole Kelly, Steve Scharfenberg, Jim Boettcher, Rick Echternacht, Luke Thunberg, and Tyler Kobilarcsik. Jacob Stolar arrived later in the meeting. MEMBERS ABSENT: Brent Carron STAFF PRESENT: Todd Hoffman, Park and Rec Director; Katie Favro, Program Specialist; Adam Beers, Park Superintendent; Jodi Sarles, Rec Center Manager, and Susan Bill, Senior Center Coordinator PUBLIC PRESENT: Dennis Cruikshank 8320 Allegheny Grove, Victoria Geraint Powell 548 Greenview Angie Quinn 7762 Madelyn Creek, Victoria Ted Ellefson 7609 Walnut Curve Todd Neils 990 Saddlebrook APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Kelly: Any changes to the agenda? Any additions? Subtractions? Todd. Hoffman: Couple of additions. We’d like to let the guests in the audience and also the nd commission know to save the date for Saturday, May 2. First Saturday in May at 9:00 a.m. at Chanhassen Hills Park and the Environmental Commission, members of City Council and Park Commissioners will lead Arbor Day planting that day with the Chanhassen Hills neighborhood. As you recall the Environmental Commission has selected, they’re selecting a neighborhood park each year for Arbor Day to focus on planting trees at one particular site and so it will be nd moving from park to park each year and this year it’s Chanhassen Hills Park. May 2, 9:00 a.m. You’ll get a postcard in the mail. Kelly: Thank you. Hoffman: Also would like to add a discussion of topics for your upcoming joint meeting with th the City Council. They have scheduled your joint meeting for Monday, April 27. It will likely be some time after that 5:00 time period. 5:00 or 5:30. We’ll get you the exact timing of that and so this evening I’ve distributed last year’s topics and if we can utilize that as a commission to arrive at a list of discussion topics for this year’s joint meeting with the City Council, that would be helpful. And then lastly I’d like to introduce Katie Favro. Katie is our brand new program specialist with the City replacing Meghan who was here for a brief time so we’re really Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 excited to have her. She comes out of Lacrosse and school in Lacrosse and working for a couple of different cities. Both her hometown of Faribault and Onalaska, Wisconsin so second day. Glad to have her here. Kelly: Katie, welcome to Chanhassen. Favro: Thank you very much. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS. Kelly: I have a feeling that will come up later since you’re scheduled to, Todd and group. I said since you’re scheduled you probably might want to make some comments as we’re talking. When we have questions but you have no comments to make right now? Okay perfect, thank you Todd. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: None. CHANHASSEN ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION PROPOSED DONATION OF BALL FIELD ENHANCEMENT. Kelly: Todd do you want to give us a little update on that please. Hoffman: Sure will. Thank you Chair Kelly, members of the commission. We’ll start with a staff report and then allow…comment as well. So the proposed motion this evening is that the Park and Recreation Commission recommends that the City Council accept the donation of Lake Susan Park ball field scoreboard, a Lake Ann Park ball field scoreboards at Fields #2 and #3. Dig up concrete for Lake Ann Park Fields #1, #2, and #3 and labor to assist with infield improvements at the Chanhassen Recreation Center/Bluff Creek Elementary School with the conditions that are noted. Approval requires a simple majority vote of the commission. Little bit of background. So representatives from Chanhassen Athletic Association led by Mr. Todd Neils rd is here again this evening. Attended your last meeting on February 23. The association would like to donate a variety of ball field related improvements to the City. Additionally they’re proposing that the City engage in a project to extend the infields at Chan Rec Center/Bluff Creek Elementary School utilizing city funds and labor combined with Athletic Association volunteers and that project out at the Rec Center is to extend the infields and so get away from some bad hops when the fielders are having to play on the grass at the current time. All donations exceeding $500 must be approved by the City Council and so that’s the reason for the review at the park commission and a need for a recommendation. So the association has been making these kind of improvements and donations to the community for quite some time. I’ll go into a little bit of specific, primarily on the conditions that we’re asking the Athletic Association to meet as a part of these proposals so regarding the Lake Susan Park ball field scoreboard donation, the Athletic Association in conjunction with the Dugout Club would like to donate and install it’s Model B-18. It’s a Daktronics, electronic scoreboard for installation at Lake Susan Park. On our conditions that we recommend the commission recommend to City Council request of the association and the Dugout Club is that the project include the permanent installation of a Daktronics All Sport Locker Storage System. You have a picture of that. So it’s 2 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 a metal box that would hold the control panel. The control panel is separate from the scoreboard itself and that would allow the control panel to stay on the property. Be hard wired to the scoreboard so you minimize the risk of not having communication between the two and then basically it can be locked and keys can be distributed to each association that utilizes that particular facility so they have access to that scoreboard on any given night. All maintenance and repair or replacement costs over $1,000 dollars would be equally shared and that would be 50 percent with the City and 50 percent the CAA and Dugout Club for the life of the improvement. So any minor repair, improvements under $1,000 the City would pay for those but if we get into a blown board or replacement of some major system, this would not be an improvement that the City would typically install and so we want to make sure that you know we have some assistance with those longer term large improvements or repair items if those so occur. So the same conditions at the two scoreboards at Lake Ann. Lake Ann ball fields #2 and #3 and the dollar amount there, the donation there is $8,783. As proposed it would go up with the inclusion of these other items. Lake Ann ball field #1, #2, and #3 dugout concrete donation. That’s the wrong number isn’t it? Yeah. Shifted up, that’s what I’m thinking. Thanks for that clarification. So if you take a look at the report the $8,800 that should be Lake Susan. $13,000 is Lake Ann so we apologize for that error in the report. Just move those numbers up one notch. Kelly: Okay. Hoffman: The concrete is $3,400 dollars. There’s no cost associated with the last item noted there so concrete $3,400 dollars. Basically it’s just to get the mud out of the infield dugouts at ball fields #1, #2 and #3 and our only condition is that any wood forms be removed and so we don’t have those wood forms in the ground for long term and that we coordinate installation with the contractor or the Athletic Association, the Dugout to make sure that we minimize conflict of park users and damage to park areas. The last item is the Chanhassen Recreation Center and Bluff Creek Elementary School infield expansion. So we’re proposing it move 6 feet of grass and in place put aggregate to extend those fields, all 6 fields at the Rec Center and Bluff Creek. To accomplish that the Athletic Association is proposing that the City excavate and reinstall the sprinkler heads located at the infield perimeter on each of the 6 fields. That we excavate and remove soils from the area at a depth of 6 inches and that we purchase infield aggregate, mix and distribute it at the 6 fields and our one condition is that the timeline they’re requesting is really not, it’s just not a realistic timeline with our work load and so spring is by far our busiest season and that’s the time of the year that they would like to see these improvements installed. That would, if we would accept that timeline it would really hinder all of the other things we have to do at that time of year. Getting parks up and running. Ball fields up and running. Basically getting our whole system online and so that’s just a challenge. The second thing about that is, in spring construction conditions are always at their poorest or typically at their poorest. Wet conditions. You’re just coming out of frost and so summer, mid-summer. And then third item is that school’s still in session. We really don’t advocate that we put that much heavy equipment onto that property when we have school in session so I know we’re always anxious as a community and as an association to see ball field improvements that can be used this year when we’re all thinking about them but in many of these cases you have to think just one year ahead and so those improvements could occur this summer but they would be for next year’s season. And then the installation of permanent fence pegs at Lake Ann Park ball fields #1, #4, #5 and #6. There’s a variety of fences out there so when you bring in tournaments and you want to shorten 3 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 the fences you can put up temporary fences. These permanent pegs or actually the temporary permanent just kind of get drilled in. They’re a plastic peg and we just have experience with them that they’re not really ideal. They loosen up quickly. They can easily be removed and they just become litter on the grounds at Lake Ann Park. You can purchase a fence which you just drill with an auger so you just drill in the soils out and then you just put in the fence peg which includes the fence itself and then it’s installed and then you pull it out and then you just kick a little dirt back into that hole so that’s our recommendation is that we just stay away from these fence pegs altogether. Adam’s here to answer any questions. I’ll be happy to answer any questions about those items and we’re happy to hear from the Athletic Association with their response and then we look forward to your recommendation to the council. Kelly: Any questions for Todd Hoffman, Todd Neils or Adam Beers at this time? Boettcher: Todd were there any costs with the last two items? There was nothing written down. Hoffman: There’s going to be some cost for. Boettcher: Just staff. Hoffman: Yeah. Boettcher: City staff. Hoffman: Yeah aggregate but it would be a minimal cost. Scharfenberg: How many sprinkler heads, have you guys looked into how many sprinkler heads we would be moving and what would be the associated cost of moving those? Beers: About 24 is what we thought to get to that 6 foot range. Hoffman: Hit your mic Adam. Beers: 24 heads should need to be moved and figure about a thousand dollars to do that with labor. About an hour and a half apiece give or take. Kind of how things go. If we run into problems or should be pretty minimal. We could do that over a couple days. Kelly: So Todd Hoffman, when would be, the dugout project you said wouldn’t work for us this spring. When would be a good time for the parks and rec crew to be working on it? Hoffman: The dugout project is fine. It’s a little more limited and it’s at Lake Ann. It’s the infield project which we don’t recommend we perform this spring. That we wait for summer and that’s at the Rec Center. Kelly: At the Rec Center, okay. Hoffman: That’s the infield extension. 4 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 Kelly: So are we talking July-August? Hoffman: Yeah August. Late July or all the month of August. Kelly: Okay. Scharfenberg: Plus in addition Jodi’s got programming that she’s running out at the fields during the summer correct? So I mean we need those fields to some extent for activities right? With respect to the Lake Ann scoreboards, I know one of the questions that was posed to CAA and the Dugout Club was the, please identify a trenching diagram for power runs that avoid existing improvements. Now there is a diagram but some of that looks like it’s going right through or in close proximity to the playground. What challenges do we have in running power from the canteen area all the way out to the batting cages? Hoffman: I think that line just represents a diagram. You could do that if you underground it so if you go underneath that sidewalk, those sidewalk areas or you simply have to go around so if this is approved we’ll have to, we’ll work with the association and the electrician to identify a location that will work for not just hard surface improvements but trees and vegetation as well. Scharfenberg: Okay. Question I guess for Todd Neils. With respect to the Bluff Creek/Chan Rec improvements, I believe one of the primary reasons why you want to cut out an increase is to lengthen baselines, is that correct? Todd Neils: Correct. Scharfenberg: Okay. So putting in additional pegs for bases with that, what’s the cost of doing something like that and are there additional bases that will have to be purchased in association with that or existing stuff will. Todd Neils: No they actually exist at the current base path required. The extension of the ball fields is due to the fact that at their current length there are a handful, particularly at second base that are actually cut into the grass already. Scharfenberg: Oh the. Todd Neils: The pegs are actually in the grass. Scharfenberg: Okay. Todd Neils: So the extension would accommodate the increase in base path to accommodate the tournaments that we run both in June and in July. Scharfenberg: Alright but so third base, first base are okay at majority of the fields or is it just the second bases that we’re talking about? 5 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 Todd Neils: I would suggest that if second base is in the grass, first base is close and so is third base. I haven’t, second base is the most noticeable. The first and third bases and I’m going to ask Dennis Cruikshank who actually runs our tournament at this point, his opinion if you don’t mind. Dennis Cruikshank: I would agree. Second base impedes into the outfield on a majority of the fields. First and third have adequate distance between first and the outfields. I think as you add that 6 foot. It may not be 6 foot equally around it. It might come out to 6 feet past second base but maybe less feet where the current aggregate reaches the outfield today. Scharfenberg: Okay. Todd Neils: But a full extension or additional extension is requested. Whether that be 1 foot past first base or 6 feet. Scharfenberg: Okay. Hoffman: Todd can you talk about the groups that, so we’ve gone to 90 base to accommodate new groups or expanding groups. Can you talk about which groups those are? The leagues that are playing at that 90 foot baseline and what the increase is. Todd Neils: It’s a step up effectively from age group to age group. Our 9 and 10 year olds, well. Our 5 through 10 year olds play on a 60 foot base path. Typically 11 year olds play on a 65 and then from there it gradually steps up. You have your 12 and 13 year olds that are at 75 on your intermediate fields and then also your larger base pads at 14 and above. This is merely to accommodate the tournaments that we play within the, that are supported by the association as fund raising events. The current structure of the league doesn’t require 65 foot base paths for our 9 to 11 year olds. They can play at, on 60 foot base paths under Little League parameter. But is a requirement, the 65 again is required for the tournaments and the age divisions that play at those tournaments. Scharfenberg: What is the cost of the locker? Do we know? Hoffman: We do not know. Scharfenberg: Okay. Is the Dugout Club okay with this and purchasing additional costs? Todd Neils: Well I think, I think we have some response to the conditions that were put forth that we’d like to discuss prior to the motion or the vote being taken and I’m happy to talk about each one individually. I think that the association has made a generous donation of over $25,000 in materials, not inclusive of the labor that is going to be supplied by the association and community and while the City is also generous in their moving of sprinkler heads, additional aggregate supplies, etc. there are some associated costs. If in fact the box is a requirement by the City who will in effect be taking possession of the scoreboard then our position is that the City would supply the box for the console. Additionally, particularly at Lake Ann. Lake Ann for the scoreboards as well as Lake Susan, it is not, we are not in a position as a volunteer association 6 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 with 2 year terms to add a lifetime commitment to replacement of any type of product that is donated to the City. I think there is reasonable, there is a reasonable amount of time that we could commit to but I don’t think a lifetime commitment is appropriate. And the further question is if in fact they are, the City does take possession of these, it should, it seems as if it should fall under some sort of insurance policy that the City currently covers or holds on whether it’s equipment or otherwise. As it relates to the concrete we’re absolutely amenable to removing the wooded forms. It’s merely the additional conditions placed on the scoreboards that we would question. Scharfenberg: So as a group have you discussed some of these requirements? Obviously I think you have and so like for example you said not in, you’re not in a position to commit to a number of years. What would you be willing to or what would the CAA Dugout Club be willing to commit to if anything? Todd Neils: Well that is something that I’d have to bring back to the board. I would you know having spent a number of years on the board, I would say that it is reasonable that a 3 to 5 year time commitment could be approved with institutional knowledge rolling from year to year you’d have that opportunity to do so but again if given the opportunity to put it under the City’s insurance policy, that commitment wouldn’t be necessary. Scharfenberg: Why wouldn’t it be necessary? Todd Neils: Because it would be covered under the insurance policy. Scharfenberg: You’re assuming, you’re making that assumption. Todd Neils: Correct. Scharfenberg: Okay. We don’t know that though. Todd Neils: Correct. Scharfenberg: What other responses do you guys have relative to? Todd Neils: I think that if, the last would be, the last request I think we’re open to moving the expansion of the fields out to the July or August timeframe. I think it would be in the association’s generally best interest if possible to do it in a July timeframe. Somewhere third week of July. Historically what has happened is, as the baseball season winds down and before schools start our association members have a tendency to scatter for the cabin and vacations in the short window of summer that they have left and so in an effort to make sure that we have ample volunteer opportunity for our members, the late July timeframe would not only supply that but it would also insure that is done to City’s specifications. Kelly: And how many volunteers are we going to need to do this do you think Todd? Todd Neils: Well a lot. We have. 7 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 Kelly: So are we talking 20? 30? 50? Todd Neils: I would say that it’s reasonable to assume 50 for all projects. Kelly: 50, okay. Todd Neils: We have you know just merely for the dugouts themselves we have a very short window in which to have the concrete delivered. Deliver the concrete to the dugouts and then finish them to make sure that they are at an optimum strength and attractiveness I guess. So we would anticipate at least 10 to 15 volunteers for a full day work. Or for a good 6 hours of the day. One of those would be required to distribute Ibuprofen. The expansion of the dugouts, or pardon me the expansion of the ball fields is another matter. Depending on how, if the City’s available to deliver the aggregate to the, directly to the fields it’s far less, it’s far less an issue to spread that aggregate. If the City, we estimate that approximately, and this is only a rough estimate, 25 tons of aggregate. 25 to 30 tons of aggregate per field is required. In that event, and like I say if it’s delivered directly to the ball field it’s less of an issue. If it’s delivered to for instance a, an alternative site like the hockey rinks to insure that other programming can go on during this time and we have to move it a further distance, we may want to talk about deploying skid loaders or things that can deliver that aggregate and get it moved as quickly as possible. In that regard again we’re probably looking at 20 plus volunteers over one day or a weekend. Kelly: So Todd Neils, I think Todd Hoffman sent you an email saying that the City doesn’t like the idea of the pegs that you had recommended so you’ve had, I don’t know if you’ve had time to think about it or talk about it or any alternative ideas that you’re thinking about for that right now. Todd Neils: Well our experience clearly isn’t at the same as the City’s is. Obviously it is a, it’s a time saver for the association. The association annually hosts two softball tournaments. Two State softball tournaments in which we do have volunteers that commit to an evening to install the temporary fences. The installation would help in that, the pegs would help in that matter in that it would shorten installation. The installation timeframe and it would also allow us to set the fields up on a Saturday in the event that the City does have some type of programming such as coed softball going on at Lake Ann and we don’t have to wait for those activities to complete and don’t have to come out at 5:00 in the morning or so on Saturday morning to install them. So it again shortens the time for installation. We are more than willing to explore other options that are similar in nature which will allow us to shorten that timeframe. Reduce the number of volunteer hours and not hinder any programming that’s done, either at the association or at the City level. Kelly: Todd Hoffman, can you comment a little further on you said we’ve had bad experience with the pegs. Where have we had them before and which fields were they on and what were the problems that we experienced? Hoffman: We’ve not had them here in the City at any fields but Adam Beers has had experience in the past. 8 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 Kelly: So yeah Adam can you tell me about your experience please. Beers: Yeah we used them at the golf course quite a bit for yardage markers. Kelly: Okay. Beers: Throughout the golf course and almost on a daily basis we were out there, and these were only holding up you know a 2 foot stake in the ground and they were constantly getting pulled out. You know people bump into them. They get loose in the soil and we were constantly, I mean we had 50 at a time just on hand just in the back of golf carts that would just be, you know when you see them out there you just, it was just second nature to go and replace them just on a whim so we didn’t have any luck with using those. I guess that’s where I’m drawing my experience from. Todd Neils: I think if there’s, if there’s an opportunity to find a solution maybe that screws in rather than pounds in, that may be you know, the position we take is the pegs we’re suggesting are at grade so they’re not intrusive. They’re no higher than a sprinkler head. They do have, they do have caps on them so that there’s no issue of catching a spike or otherwise when you’re in the outfield. So if we can find like I say an alternative solution that may screw in or be more, better for the City as well as the association we’re happy to discuss that. Hoffman: Chair Kelly we can make that decision at a maintenance level. That does not need approval from park commissioners or council. Kelly: Okay, good. Todd Neils: It could exceed $500 in terms of the pegs. Hoffman: The purchase? Todd Neils: Yeah. Hoffman: Yeah. If it exceeds $500 than we’re back to a recommendation. Todd Neils: I think 499 is the number. Hoffman: Yeah. The caps, the caps are not full proof. Our position is that you’re going to spend just as much time trying to repair those inserts as you are if you just went ahead and put a fence up without these inserts. You’re going to see these things. You know people are going to, kids are going to be curious in what they are. The City of Chanhassen owns these fields. It’s just our position, we maintain them on a daily basis. It’s our position we don’t those inserts in these fields. There are many alternatives to putting those pegs in. The best is just an auger bit and you simply go along and you drill the hole and put the fence in and you take it out and it provides some pretty nice aeration for the field at that point but, so that’s our recommendation. 9 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 Kelly: Other questions? Scharfenberg: Todd Hoffman, when are we scheduled to do the fencing work for the dugouts this summer? Is that going to be coordinated with the concrete work or? Hoffman: No. On opposite fields almost. That’s going to be starting here just as soon as we dry out. Scharfenberg: Okay. Kelly: By the way it should be noted Jacob Stolar is now in attendance. Alright any other questions or somebody want to put it to the question. Echternacht: I just have a question as far as, Todd you mentioned that you prefer the third week of July to have the fields, dug out the third week of July. Jodi, when is your activities on those fields end normally? Do you have a? Sarles: It goes all the way through August… Echternacht: Okay. Todd Neils: Given the opportunity to leg into that. If it, you know if it’s going to interfere with City activities we’re happy to you know do 4 and then move. If possible move those activities to an alternative field and then do those last 2 and I think in that you know, as I said in the response it’s absolutely our intent to work with the City to insure that it does not interrupt any activities that are currently scheduled or historically scheduled as well as make sure that it’s at City specifications when complete. Echternacht: Okay, thank you. Scharfenberg: Before we ask or anybody proposes anything you know I guess two things that are kind of hanging out there that we either need to discuss as a group or some how those need to be tabled to the next meeting I guess. First of all the cost of the lockers. The proposal if I understand from staff or the recommendation is that Dugout Club CAA purchase those, correct? Hoffman: Correct. Scharfenberg: Okay, and we don’t know the costs of those. What those are and you guys at least are recommending that it should be something that the City should pay for, correct? Todd Neils: Because the City is requiring it, yes. Then there are only 2, 3 that will be purchased. Scharfenberg: Right. And then the other issue is the whole, the commitment for anything over $1,000 and whether or not you’re willing to commit to that for a period of time and if that’s 3 to 5 years. 10 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 Todd Neils: Can I take a moment? Scharfenberg: Sure. Todd Neils: Not to take any more of the commission’s time here’s what I suggest. We can, through email proxy request approval to commit to a timeframe in which we would split costs with the City on anything over $1,000. We can have that response to the City by Tuesday. Kelly: Question for Todd Hoffman on the City insurance. Now when we’re looking for the commitment as far as the City from Chanhassen, are we talking about normal wear and tear outages that aren’t covered under insurance or are we talking stuff that might be covered under insurance? Are deductibles under insurance? Do we have any idea what our deductibles are? Hoffman: It’s very high. Most of the projects, unless there’s a complete failure are not going to be covered by insurance. Kelly: Okay. Hoffman: On these items. The real test here, and what I encourage the commission to consider is that whether it be the purchase of the box. But for the fact that the Athletic Association and the Dugout Club want to donate this, the City’s not going to be out buying these and so the system needs to be operable, not just by the Athletic Association that’s before you tonight but anybody else that shows up and wants to use that field and is scheduled to use that field. So you can’t have these controllers in Todd Neils trunk of his car in Chanhassen. You have to have it at the field and the only way to do that is to have this box there and so the proposal is not complete without having a plan. They didn’t present a plan to the park commission. Staff has presented a plan that will work to have that ability for every team, every athletic association that is going to use that facility. Once it’s donated to the City it becomes public property. Becomes the property of all users at that field so it’s their responsibility. If they want to fulfill their commitment to donate these it’s their responsibility to purchase those. Again but for the fact that they’re donating them, we’re not going to be owning them and we’re not going to be out repairing them so again if they want to get into this game of having scoreboards at these fields for the public to use, we feel it’s again part of their commitment. If they dissolve that commitment will obviously go away. As long as they’re in business as an athletic association or Dugout Club they can commit to that type of proposal. Kelly: Well another question for you Todd Hoffman. So we know the City’s not going to fix them if they go down, right? So do we actually need a commitment from the association because if they go down and they’re not fixed then we remove them don’t we? Hoffman: That could occur over time. The repair will be contracted through likely a company called Sign Source or another company that services these. Kelly: Right. But what I’m saying is, if the City says we’re not going to, we’re not in this business or we’re not going to, we’re not going to fix these things, do we really need a 11 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 commitment because the commitment would be as long as the CAA wants to see them they’re going to fix it or they’re not if they don’t have the money or the will or the people in place who want to keep it up there. Hoffman: Yeah Chair Kelly my proposal is that we’re going to own them. We’ll, if something, if something’s not working we’ll go ahead and fix that up to $1,000. Once we’re over that point then we’ll fix it and we’ll bill the athletic association for 50 percent of anything over that $1,000 dollars. Kelly: Okay. I missed that part earlier somewhere. Okay. So I think what we’re, I think the two things that Steve brought up, obviously the City’s not going to buy the lockers so the City. Scharfenberg: Well I guess I’d like to know what the cost of the locker is. I mean if it’s $50 bucks for a locker, you know I don’t know what the cost of this, of the contraption is. I don’t know. Hoffman: It’s likely a thousand bucks I would imagine. Kelly: Yeah it’s the electronics that are going to be protected can’t be, yeah has to be somewhere in that area I would think. Boettcher: Todd Neils, have you contacted the company yet? Daktronics. Todd Neils: I have. Boettcher: And they didn’t shoot, because I’m on their website and there’s, they say nothing about prices. I mean I guess they do a quantity thing or do they know you or whatever? Todd Neils: They supplied a proposal and based on the proposal on the scoreboards that we requested they priced out the cost of the scoreboards. Boettcher: So they packaged it in but they didn’t give you an idea of what it was? They gave you the whole price of scoreboards and the lockers together? Hoffman: He didn’t ask for that. Todd Neils: I did not ask for lockers. Boettcher: Oh you didn’t split it up, okay. Todd Neils: The lockers were a requirement by the City. Kelly: So who else uses these fields? Is it Minnetonka mainly? Hoffman: (Yes). 12 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 Kelly: And Todd Neils maybe what you want to do is approach Minnetonka to buy the lockers and say you know this is, the Chanhassen Athletic Association doing all these upgrades which you’re going to be able to partake in. We need you to step up and buy these 3 lock boxes or 2. What is it, 3 of them? Hoffman: Three. Kelly: Three. I mean that’s a thought for getting the CAA out of the cost and I believe at the meeting we had with the baseball associations, there was some willingness from Minnetonka to step up to the plate when need be. So I’m just throwing out a thought because that might be a way to go. Todd Neils: Thank you. Hoffman: Chair Kelly, commissioners, all of you are aware with what the original proposal was is that the Athletic Association would purchase the controller and then keep it and then they would, other associations would have to buy their own and then manage that somehow passing it. We looked at locations, at Lake Susan you really don’t have a location that’s lockable. At Lake Ann you do have a potential location. You could lock them in the concession stand but then again are they always returned or are they always going to be there? Are they in somebody’s car so we just didn’t really feel like either of those was going to be a very good solution. And then you know who would be caught up in the process of tracking these things down when somebody needs them at the field. Just having them on the field, hard wired to the scoreboard in a protective weatherproof box is really the best solution. At least that staff feels. Kelly: Thank you Todd. Any other questions? So Todd Hoffman the proposed motion with the conditions noted, add in those lock boxes for someone else and split the cost over $1,000. I’m assuming that’s part of the as noted in the, even though I’ve read through this, trying to tie everything back to each other. Little hard but is that all in there? Okay. Alright, any other questions or somebody want to call the question? Scharfenberg: Well let me ask Todd Neils. Is that a deal breaker for you guys? With the lock boxes and the, paying any, 50 percent of any cost over $1,000. I mean are you guys prepared to do that? Todd Neils: I think the original proposal to own the console that the association level gives us some solace that at any given night when we do show up for a game that we will have responsibility for that console. If there is damage to the console from a previous night, the times that games are played on the association and on those fields, City and staff are off enjoying their evenings and so for us to have, to commit to having control of those consoles gives us again, it also gives us the opportunity to buy additional consoles that can replace anything that is broken. As I understand it Minnetonka only uses Lake Susan currently and they use it on Friday nights and they use it, or at least as of last year’s allocation, Friday nights and Saturdays until noon. Typically for practice. I don’t know if they currently use Lake Ann Park on the weekends but Lake Ann Park again historically has been under use by CAA and therefore our teams would be responsible for the consoles and the upkeep of those. Our greatest concern is not having 13 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 replacement availability after 4:30 in the afternoon, several hours before our games typically begin. As it relates to the, as it relates to the $1,000 dollars, you know again I feel comfortable committing to a shorten timeframe. I will say that in talking to the electrician about the specifications of the scoreboards themselves, they run at the power of about a 100 watt light bulb. They’re all LED in nature and I wouldn’t anticipate anything over that. Therefore I think we can commit to the longer timeframe quite possibly but I’m not in a position to do so. Kelly: Steve, any more thoughts or questions? Scharfenberg: No. Kelly: Anyone else? Are we going to call to the question or are we going to move on? Todd Neils: Thank you. Scharfenberg: I’ll make a motion to adopt staff’s recommendation for acceptance of the donation for Lake Susan ball park field scoreboards, Lake Ann Park ball scoreboards Fields #2 and #3. Dugout concrete for Lake Ann Park’s Fields #1, #2, and #3 and labor to assist with infield improvements at the Chanhassen Recreation Center/Bluff Creek Elementary School with the conditions as noted being that the work at Bluff Creek wouldn’t be done until July or August. That the scoreboards, the boxes would need to be purchased by the Dugout Club or CAA and that an agreement to split the cost over $1,000. Kelly: Now the things that, Todd Hoffman? Things that Steve added, is that already covered in conditions noted or not? Hoffman: Correct. Kelly: They are already covered, okay. So the way the motion is stated we could go with Steve? Scharfenberg: Yep. Kelly: Okay. So Steve has made a motion. Is there a second? Thunberg: Second. Kelly: There’s a motion and a second that the Park and Recreation Commission recommends that the City Council accept the donation of Lake Susan Park ball field scoreboard, Lake Ann Park ball field scoreboards Fields #2 and #3, dugout concrete for Lake Ann Park Fields #1, #2, and #3, and labor to assist with infield improvements at the Chanhassen Recreation Center/Bluff Creek Elementary School with the conditions noted that Steve also went through. Scharfenberg moved, Thunberg seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission recommends that the City Council accept the donation of Lake Susan Park ball field scoreboard, Lake Ann Park ball field scoreboards Fields #2 and #3, dugout concrete for Lake Ann Park Fields #1, #2, and #3, and labor to assist with infield improvements at the 14 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 Chanhassen Recreation Center/Bluff Creek Elementary School with the conditions noted. All voted in favor, except Chair Kelly who opposed, and the motion carried with a vote of 6 to 1. Kelly: Thank you Todd Neils for all your information tonight and everybody who showed up. Moving right along. PARK & TRAIL MAINTENANCE REPORT. Beers: Alright, thank you Chair Kelly, commissioners. I’m just going to give you a brief update as to where we’ve been for the last few months and some of the projects we have going moving forward here coming up in the spring. Things are going very well for the maintenance department. We had a new staff member start. He’s fitting in with the group quite well. With the water temperatures we’ve had over the last couple weeks we were able to get into Lake Ann and get a lot of our sprinkling up started with leaf removal around all the fields. Down by the lake so we’re ahead of the curve until we just got this last snowfall so. STS was scheduled to come out tomorrow and work around City Hall and the cemetery. Unfortunately that’s going to be rescheduled until we get some better weather. The construction season is upon us. We’ve been moving forward with the park shelters that were approved last year. Those were at Stone Creek, Sugarbush and Roundhouse Park. We were able to get the concrete poured right at the very end of the fall before snow flew and over the last 3 weeks all the shelters were put up with no trouble. We had great weather and the contractor was able to move right along. The City Council passed the purchase of the next 3 shelters and the concrete work to be completed so as soon as we get the right weather and things dry up we’re going to start our site prep for the next three. Lake Susan Park we, I have done some homework and some digging on a drinking fountain that’s comparable to the 2 that are at Lake Ann. This is a project that we can easily do in-house with the utility department. I’ve brought Kevin Crooks out there to the site and he said it’s not an issue at all so we can hopefully get that tackled for under two grand so it should be short and sweet. The last about month and a half we’ve been working really hard on our annual equipment maintenance. Going through all of our weed whips, backpack blowers, mowers, tractors. Rebuilding trailers. Just kind of our annual maintenance. We have also been building new park signs. Got 3 new ones. Our new staff member Dustin Costco has kind of been getting his feet wet with that construction project so he’s kind of plugging along and we’ll continue to monitor the ones that are out in the field and replace them as we see fit. Skating rinks, from a maintenance standpoint we had a much easier year than we did last year. We just had a little trouble in the beginning. We got started and some warm weather came and we kind of lost everything we had so little struggle in the beginning but we were able to push through that and think this is one of the longest seasons we’ve had in a few years. We were open 61 days and we rd closed officially on March 3 so it was a, from a maintenance standpoint it was a good season and no issues with the warming houses so all good things. That’s really about it for me. We’re in the process of interviewing for a new full time position and that whole process is going pretty well so hopefully in the next couple weeks we’ll have an offer out to somebody and we’ll be moving forward. Spring season into summer. Kelly: Good. 15 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 Beers: Any questions? Boettcher: I just wanted to make the comment Adam, I talked to Todd earlier in the day. The shelter out by Sugarbush where I live really made the thing stand out. I mean you don’t even know it’s a park. You’ve got the big house there with however many acres he has and the little sign in the basketball court and then you have parking and a port-a-potty in the summer but now that the shelter’s there, I told Todd every time I drive up it’s like a band shelter. You think something’s happening over there and I’ve already seen kids over there with parents and the dogs and everything else so it’s, and just in our neighborhood they’re seeing more use. Starting to see more use than it had in the 15 years so really looks good. It’s a good idea. Beers: That’s exciting. Hopefully we can continue to dry up here in short order so we can, you know all we really have left to do at those first 3 sites are just the site prep and seeding and the bituminous trail that’s going to go down as soon as we can start laying blacktop so hopefully it comes together quick. Scharfenberg: What big projects do you have, other than the other shelters this summer. Any big projects lined up? Beers: As far as construction goes that’s really about it. We’re, I’m really going to hammer down on kind of getting back to some of our routine maintenance and cultural practices with Pioneer Pass going in. We struggled with some establishment with the turf so I’m really going to, that’s my main focus right now is just to get back to square one and get something going at these parks and we really don’t have any new construction scheduled. I think the 3 shelters will keep us plenty busy so. Hoffman: And restoration of the other three. Beers: And restoration. There’s always no irrigation is a challenge so we’ll have our hands full. Kelly: Thank you Adam. Beer: Yeah. SENIOR CENTER REPORT. Bill: Thank you. I’ll kind of mimic what Adam said with warmer winter. A kinder winter. Less snowfall. Didn’t have to cancel any activities all season at the senior center. Last year we weren’t as lucky so programs and attendance have been good. KleinBank once again is sponsoring our Life Long Learning Program. I think it’s maybe our eighth year. Got a new program through that Life Long Learning Program that I’m pretty excited about. We’ll do this British History Series that I started last fall. We’ll continue that but I learned about a new program called the Senior Learning Network out of Washington D.C. They have over a hundred programs that we can do live video conferencing. With a number, you pick a program and the first program we picked, we’re going to do a live tour of the FDR Presidential Library Museum and National Archives so that will be fun. We’re going to test that one. And we’ve got all the 16 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 technology so that’s going to occur in June. We can go to places like Denali State Park. We can do live dives in the Channel Islands. We can hook up with the Baseball Hall of Fame. We can be in Europe. We can be all over so pretty excited to get that one started and see how it goes so that will be in June and that will be part of the program. I mentioned also we’re starting to offer some day trips on the weekends. We did one to the Orpheum in January. Attracted working older adults that we don’t normally get during the week on our trips so we’re going to do a few more of those and try to you know pull in some new people that aren’t available during the week. First one went off with a big bang so we were happy about that. And then lastly our summer programming booklet or Connection is coming out tomorrow. I’m excited, they’ve got a new coordinator at Carver County Parks System who’s really wanting to partner and work on some joint programming. We’re going to offer a grandparent and me fishing fun and camp program and then we’re going to have a canoe excursion on Lake Ann in I think the end of January. Nice part of that. They’ll bring the canoes. The racks. Instructors and I’ll hand out the life jackets and whatever so those are just a couple things I want to highlight. All in all things have been going well at the senior center and I guess no news is good news so that’s all I have to offer. Kelly: Boy you were busy before and you’re adding more programs on the weekends so that sounds like great stuff. Bill: I know. It’d better not interfere with the golf game you know but it’s men’s day. I can’t get on until after like noon or 1:00 on the weekends so anyway. Kelly: Okay, thank you Sue. I’m sorry I should have asked if anybody had questions but I don’t think we did so we’ll move on. Jodi. RECREATION CENTER REPORT. Sarles: Thank you Chair Kelly. Greetings from the Rec Center this evening. We are finishing up. I think we wrote this a couple weeks ago so finishing up a few programs tonight. We finished up our Small Fry’s Sport Sampler so we had I think about 14 little ones. Tonight they ran through, let’s see a 3 week program so one week they got track and field. The next week we did floor hockey and then tonight they played some soccer so it’s a great program. The kids love it. They get to try a few different things and they usually come home pretty tired because they’re, the best thing they do is they run so, so we make everything about running. And then they’re finishing up also basketball. As far as the Rec Center a little bit again, you know it is spring and it’s been winter and we’ve had some melt and some things go on so we continue to leak there. I think we’ve done a lot of patching and re-patching now. It’s one of those things, you put your thumb in a spot and then the water moves somewhere else and you’ve got to put another one so they keep coming back. Tentative facility roof replacement for the entire facility is in 2016-17 so it’s about a million project and we’d be on the hook for about 24 percent and then that’s scheduled in the capital budget so. Replacement cost. We finally entered the 90’s so we got FM transmitters on our TV’s in the fitness center so you can bring your Walkman and listen and no, we also. Kelly: Will this work too? 17 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 Sarles You know iPhones don’t have FM transmitters. Kelly: Oh they don’t, okay. Sarles So we kind of did some searching when we were doing it all together and I found an app that’s called Tunity. It picks up, it picks up more cable channels so it’s, because it’s out of New York but you can actually point your phone at the TV screen and it will find the sound for you and then you can just listen to it. Kelly: Oh okay. Sarles So if you’re watching like ESPN, it’s fine. If you want to watch the local news, it’s not in Minnesota just yet so. Kelly: Okay. Sarles: So it works for you know plenty of things and you know football games and those kinds of things that are going to be nationwide. If you wanted to watch Monday Night, whatever it is now. Saturday night or Thursday night football you’d probably be able to see it but it’s, and actually the people from the app company, it just went out and somehow I was doing some searches when I thought half the people still won’t be able to hear the TV’s because they won’t have an FM transmitter so she contacted me. Sent out some paperwork and some different you know promotional things and then they called me back to see how it was going so it’s coming. It’s a nice option for people. Kelly: Oh good. Sarles: Yeah. And then we have a couple old school little FM radios you can check out from the front desk if you want to listen to the TV. So our community facility usage this year, again the past 3 years I believe now the West Metro Warriors is a Special Olympics team and they play basketball so they’re in the Rec Center on Friday evenings. I think they finish up the end of this month here so, so it’s fun to have a group in there. They have about 33 hours of use that they’re there for and they do a little end of the year bash too so. It was kind of a dead time for us so it was nice to be able to offer that out. As far as programs, dance. We are in the final stretch so we are heading towards the recital. The girls had some competitions the past few, I think this last weekend and then about a month ago. We actually had one of our dancers take first place so it was a great day for them. There is a, I’ll have to post it out there but they’re actually looking for votes for one of the dance groups. The Starlets I think. You know they kind of have one of these voting things online and they can get some sort of prize if they get the most votes so we’re going to push that a little bit for them. 2014 photo contest. You probably saw her, well you haven’t seen it yet. It’s been in the Connection but it is going to be on the Fall Connection cover. It’s a great picture. We try to get pictures for all the seasons so that you know people are showing us how they’re out there and about in the city of Chanhassen and active. We want to see people of all ages so most of the time we get little kids but sometimes we get some other folks too so it’s fun. It’s fun to see what people take pictures of and turn in and you know the 18 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 kids contest is always interesting. I got a picture of a cat so you’re a winner if you turned it in so it was great. A few things that are going on. We just finished up a pickleball clinic. I think we had about 6 people come out to that one and all 6 showed up the next day for pickleball so they love those. They’re free clinics. People just get to come out and try out the programs. We kind of ramp up once we go outdoors in the summer and they run it. We do about 2 a month so starting in June. And thanks to Adam we’re going to have those fancy 6 courts outside so they put the fences back up for the most part and they’re going to be re-fencing the inner lines. People are, they’re chomping at the bit. They’ve been asking me the past 3 weeks until Monday. They said oh I guess they won’t be open yet so they’re, and then with that we’re, we’ll have like a little kick off party when we get closer to knowing when they’ll be complete but we are planning a tournament in June so we’ll get the people out there and do a little Chanhassen First Annual Pickleball Tournament so. Kelly: Very cool. Sarles: Yeah. So we’ll keep you posted on that. We did a little 3 on 3 tournament for the kids. They had a day off of school. The District 112 and so we had 4 teams that came out and played and it was a fun day and I believe it was Team McDonald that won the championship t-shirt so it was a fun day and they got to play. They actually played all the games so they had to do double elimination and the final team had already won all the way through and got to the end and they played again so it was fun. And then upcoming events would just be, we’ve got the indoor th garage sale coming up. That’s going to be Saturday, April 18 from 10:00 to 2:00 so we’ll have a bunch of people in there to shop and sell some of their things that they’ve done in their spring cleaning. Trying to get rid of out of their garages. And then a few new things coming this summer. We’ve partnered with a local artist and she’s going to offer some youth soda pops. Arts and pops kind of program so she’s going to do three different art classes out at the Rec Center. And then we also will be starting a Tai Chi program as well so a couple new things coming up so that’s about it for the Rec Center right now. Kelly: So you’re adding programs too. Sarles: Yeah we’re trying to, yes. Kelly: So sounds like you’re being very busy. Any questions for Jodi? Thunberg: I was just going to say our son Graham is finishing up his Small Fry’s Sports sampler tomorrow and he has really had a lot of fun in those couple things and thank you to the instructors. They’ve done a good job and it’s nice to see that there’s 4 or 5 I think instructors for a class of 12 or so kids so it helps keep the toddlers in line but it also gives them a lot of kind of one on one attention during the class and it’s been great. Thank you. Sarles: Great, thank you. Kelly: Thanks Jodi for everything that you do. Sarles: Thanks. 19 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 RECREATION PROGRAMS: 2014/15 ICE SKATING/HOCKEY RINK EVALUATION. Kelly: Todd are you on deck for Jerry? Hoffman: Yes. Thanks Chair Kelly, members of the commission. On the ice rinks, really not going to go through a lot of detail. Want to say thank you to Adam Beers and his crew for maintaining the rinks. If you study ice, outdoor ice in Minnesota it’s a 60 day season. It doesn’t really matter when you start and finish. That’s primarily what you’re going to get. If you get 60 days you’re pretty lucky. It has more to do with intensity of the sun than it does with temperature and so 60 days of ice. We try to maintain our maintenance standards so they’re very skateable but we also minimize our costs or at least be as efficient as we can with our costs. If we start in December we’re going to get better numbers because everybody’s more excited. We did not get to start in December so we missed all of the school days. If you remember, school vacation days. It was around Christmas so there was not ice for the holidays. Be happy to answer any questions of the commission that you have going forward. Katie will be managing that program next year. Outdoor ice and so we’ll get her started in reviewing the program this year. Warming houses are still out there. They’re temporary. They’ll be moved out of here in the next 30 days and then we’ll start thinking about ice again next December. Kelly: So I know Jerry’s not here so I don’t know if this question is fair or not but Roundhouse doesn’t seem to be getting a lot of activity and why. In the past they’ve had higher activity if you look at the years. About double what they had or maybe a little more than that. Why is the activity down there and is it, at this point is it something we’re concerned about or what? You know do we, is it something that we look at to say if there’s not enough activity are we going to pull up the ice rink at Roundhouse? Hoffman: You know the biggest problem there is it doesn’t have boards so it’s not, it cannot attract the hockey game that North Lotus can. The thought process behind Roundhouse and North Lotus are, they’re a larger neighborhood park and they’re in an isolated area that is not really well served by a lot of other public facilities. Public park facilities in Chanhassen and so there is, there was a master plan that would put an ice arena on that corner at Roundhouse but I just don’t think a lot of people can visualize putting a set of hockey boards in that corner. It’s something the park commission, we should probably revisit with the neighborhoods. So bring those folks back in. Take a look at the original master plan. Say is hockey in your future? Do you want recreational skating to be in your future? So let’s, why don’t we do that as a commission. As a neighborhood this summer, talk about that and then you can evaluate that further throughout the summer for next winter. Kelly: Yeah I think that would be a good plan to kind of evaluate it because I mean there’s always going to be people say oh yeah we need to have it but we need to see what the neighborhood feels like as a whole because I would assume we’re putting more resources per person at Roundhouse than the other places. 20 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 Hoffman: Correct. Kelly: And so you’ve got to, at some point you’ve got to look at it and say does this make economic sense or doesn’t it? And again we want to serve everybody but at the point it’s not being used is a point where you say it’s not being used enough. Hoffman: Yeah, and commissioners will remember historically we’ve had many more small rinks at outdoor sites and those have been eliminated just as we ratchet down to just these few specific sites. Similar to our tennis program where we’re not going to have tennis everywhere. You’re just going to have it at certain sites and if you want to use that service you’re going to gravitate towards those areas. Kelly: Okay, thank you Todd. Other questions for Todd on this evaluation. 2015 EASTER EGG CANDY HUNT. Kelly: Mitch? Todd I think you’re going to pinch hit here. Hoffman: We’re going to let Katie warm up to the park commission and give her first ever park and recreation commission report. Kelly: Okay Katie, great. We’d love to hear from you. ndth Favro: The 32 Annual Easter Egg Candy Hunt will be held on Saturday, April 4 at City Center Park and this event is open to children ages 12 and under. In addition to doing the Easter Egg hunt they’ll also be given a goody bag with raffle tickets for door prizes and other goodies that we have provided and a lot of donations that are done just through local businesses. I know we’ve got a lot of Culver’s coupons and Papa John’s and some other door prizes like that that have been provided by the community event sponsorship program. There will also be the coloring contest this year and kids who are participating in that can either drop their finished picture off at City Hall, the Chanhassen Rec Center or you can bring them to the day of the event and then they will be judged and contacted after that to come pick up their prizes. And then the th City staff has designed an event flier that will be inserted in the March 26 edition of the Chanhassen Villager. And these fliers are also available on the City’s website, ABC Toy Zone in Chanhassen and will also be distributed locally to elementary schools. Kelly: Great. Questions for Katie? Favro: Oh, yeah we want to invite you guys to come and either you can help volunteer or you can just come and watch it. I have looked at some of the pictures and it looks like it’s an awesome event filled with lots of little kids that are scrounging around for candy. Kelly: Well good luck on your first full event at Chanhassen and I’m sure you’re going to do a great job for us. Favro: Thank you. 21 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 COMMISSION MEMBER COMMITTEE REPORTS. None. COMMISSION MEMBER PRESENTATIONS. Kelly: I guess this is the last meeting for Tyler and Jacob and we want to thank you for, Tyler’s been one year right? Kobilarcsik: One. Kelly: And two years for you? Stolar: Yes. Kelly: Want to thank you for being here and being part of our group and learning and growing with us and now that you’re both going off to college we wish you the best of luck, and where are you guys going next year? Stolar: I haven’t decided yet. Kelly: What’s it between? Stolar: Probably down to Duke, Vanderbilt, and Minnesota. Kelly: Okay. Good luck with that decision. Kobilarcsik: I’m undecided as well. I’m between Michigan Tech, St. John’s, U of M and Eau Claire. st Kelly: Okay. Well again good luck. You guys have until May 1 to make your decisions I know that. ADMINISTRATIVE SECTION. Kelly: And with that Todd Hoffman, anything in the administrative packet you want to point out to us? Hoffman: We should comment, if you have any specific comments about your joint meeting, I’ll just mirror last year’s report for this year for the activities. If you have any additional requests for your joint meeting discussion topics, otherwise I’ll mirror what you had last year. Produce that and present it to the council and then send it to the park board as well. Kelly: Okay. Scharfenberg: I have one more public announcement that I forgot to make at the beginning that th Chanhassen Red Birds Rally is coming up on Saturday, April the 11 at the America Legion 22 Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission – March 24, 2015 from 6:00 until 9:00. $10 dollars to get in for that. There’ll be raffles and meeting of the new team and food so come on out. Kelly: It’s a great event. I was there last year. I hope I can be there this year so thanks for letting us know Steve. Scharfenberg: Yep. Kelly: And anybody want to put it to the question? I think we need to hear from an outgoing member. Stolar moved, Kobilarcsik seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 7 to 0. The Park and Recreation Commission meeting was adjourned. Submitted by Todd Hoffman Park and Rec Director Prepared by Nann Opheim 23