CC Minutes 8-14-06
City Council Meeting - August 14, 2006
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Okay, so Councilman Peterson and Councilwoman Tjomhom
will work with you on that. Okay.
Todd Gerhardt: So the item would be to table this.
Mayor Furlong: The action would be a table?
Todd Gerhardt: Yeah, and work with the neighborhood and the developer to work out
the issues.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, thank you. Is there a motion to table?
Councilman Peterson: So moved.
Councilwoman Tjomhom: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Made and seconded.
Councilman Peterson moved, Councilwoman Tjornhom seconded to table action on
the Highcrest Meadows storm water pond design, grading and landscaping. All
voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to O.
CONSENT AGENDA: ITEM (d). LIBERY ON BLUFF CREEK 2ND ADDITION:
FINAL PLA T APPROVAL AND APPROVAL OF PLANS & SPECIFICATIONS
AND DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT.
,Mayor Furlong: So Ms. Lloyd, if you'd like to at this time come forward and you said
you had a question or some comments.
Debbie Lloyd: Very short.
Mayor Furlong: That's fine.
Debbie Lloyd: Actually wrote it down tonight... the city web site was not accessible on
Saturday... very frustrated. The PDF wasn't working. ..did not contain all of the report so
again, very frustrating. And it was so frustrating to have so little time to review items on
the agenda, then when the resources are not available, and the information incomplete, it
doesn't allow for emails prior to the meeting... Relative to the final plat... the report
when presented to the City Council on October 10th mentions projects 04-05. .. .until that
is finalized. So I hunted and hunted and I didn't find it. Rather I found a project 06-05
which I think is pertinent instead. And if indeed Project 06-05 is the correct project, I do
have a question about why the Lyman Boulevard, Audubon Road intersection was
eliminated from this project at this point in time. Considering the AUAR for those two
applied MUSA required that it be constructed continuously between Audubon Road and
Powers. Before the full buildout of Town & Country. And I guess the...that project was
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like $688,000 project. I'm wondering who's going to pay for the cost of this if it wasn't
part of the 06-05 plan, and will you be assessing the Town & Country development at
this point since the final plat is approved? Also the improvements denoted on here were
to inc1ude...turn lanes to go south on Audubon. An additional lane and a traffic signal.
The AUAR calls for this improvement because right now it's called an F category. This
intersection is already bad and then you're building all these new additional home sites
so.. . create a safety issue for the city. So would you therefore call this premature or I
guess what are you plans? And kind of pertinent to a safety issue you have Washington
and Commonwealth, you have that one long cul-de-sac which I know Craig loves those
long cul-de-sacs and it only has one in and one out now. There's you know no egress to
get out if there's something major that happens there... And then apart from that the
typical question about the private street, and I know it's too late but 20 foot private
street.. .and allowing parking on it. .. .Minnetonka that the developer with Pemtom
always mentions. You should see that street. It is a wonderful private street, but it's not
in keeping with this type of private street. Thank you.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, I guess...
Kate Aanenson: I can answer those questions. Sure. We did order the project. It's
underway. Actually the improvements on Audubon Way are also, they actually poured
the curb last Friday, so those turn movements, the project that was tied to, and that's in
the original conditions of approval which we tie back, so these projects could not proceed
until we ordered our project. Our project is well underway. Let Paul give an update,
kind of where we are on that. But this project is the second phase of the Bluff Creek
Boulevard, which is a public street, so they will have access to that and we should be out
there paving so I'll let Paul give you an update on where we are on that road.
Mayor Furlong: And again the project in question was what's been referred to
historically as the east/west collector.
Kate Aanenson: Correct, Bluff Creek Boulevard.
Mayor Furlong: And that again, assuming the status of that project, and has that
condition been met and.
Paul Oehme: Yeah, we're working on that. All the sewer and water is, I would say 85%
of the sewer and water is in at this time. They are back filling the street segment now.
They're approximately 40% done with the entire project. We do anticipate having curb
and gutter and paving that street before winter, so we will have a drivable surface you
know come next year, and into this year so. We are actually a little bit ahead of schedule
from what we anticipated earlier when we let the project. There will be a signal at the
intersection of Audubon and Bluff Creek Boulevard as well so, I mean that level of
service F that she had mentioned, that will be handled by the signal so that definitely is an
improvement there. And then we would anticipate another access down to Pioneer Trail
the end, the development plan that you will come in this year yet, so there, we anticipate
two access points there in the very near future.
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Kate Aanenson: And that's the Pioneer Pass project that would tie into Lyman
Boulevard. We left the other segment off. We talked about that earlier tonight. Actually
the area that we're going to put into study area, but there is adequate circulation for the
western half of the 2005 to develop. Again this buildout is going to be a number of years.
It's not going to happen all at once. Probably 2 to 3 year buildout. Maybe longer. So we
believe there's adequate infrastructure and they're both tracking together.
Paul Oehme: And as far as assessments too, the developer has waived his rights to the
assessment appeal so, and we are, will be assessing the majority of the east/west collector
road, Bluff Creek Boulevard in November. To be recorded at the County so, payable in
2007.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Any follow up questions? Okay. Were there any other items to
be discussed on this item? Item l(d). If not, is there, sorry. I heard murmuring. Is there
additional questions?
Janet Paulsen: Street? Is that wide enough?
Mayor Furlong: I'm sorry.
Janet Paulsen: The 20 foot street?
Mayor Furlong: Well I guess the issue of the street, I guess, I assume that was
considered as part of the preliminary plat approval.
Kate Aanenson: That's correct. That's correct.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, so. And I know we discussed parking, both on street and off
street parking at length.
Kate Aanenson: And there's a condition that the City Engineer added regarding as you
get towards the intersection, that that parking can't be as close so there's better sight lines,
but again that's guest parking. It's not permanent parking. There's also, there's a
condition in here regarding winter conditions. Overnight parking so those are all
standard for street, private streets. And they're not all private streets. Those looping
streets are public streets. The only private streets are the ones that go between the small
units. Otherwise the rest of them are public streets, and we believe, we've learned from
experience that keeping those larger looping streets public, they get plowed sooner and
that issue and so, but there is guest parking a lot on those streets, as there are on other
public streets in the city.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Thank you. Any other questions or items? If not, is there a
motion to approve staffs recommendations for item l(d), both 1 and 2.
Councilman Lundquist: Motion to approve.
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Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Is there a second?
Councilman Peterson: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Made and seconded. Any discussion on the motion?
Councilman Lundquist moved, Councilman Peterson seconded that the City
Council approve Liberty on Bluff Creek 2nd Addition:
1) Final Plat Approval.
2) Resolution #2006-62: Approval of Plans & Specifications and
Development Contract.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to O.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Move now to item number 6 under new business. Looking
at the hour, let's take, unless there's objection, let's take a 5 minute recess subject to the
call of the Chair.
LOREN VEL TKAMP, 6724 LOTUS TRAIL, PLANNING CASE 06-25:
VARIANCE REQUEST FOR RELIEF FROM 30 FOOT FRONT YARD
SETBACK REQUIREMENT FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE SECOND LEVEL
OF A HOME WITH NON-CONFORMING SETBACKS. TWO SETBACK
VARIANCES WILL BE REQUIRED BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS A CORNER
LOT ZONED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
Public Present:
Name
Address
Jeff King
Pat & Keith Gunderson
Bruce Johansson
Matt & Liz Tibbetts
Don & Sig Sennes
767 Carver Beach Road
6661 Mohawk Drive
6711 Mohawk Drive
6699 Mohawk Drive
6680 Mohawk Drive
Kate Aanenson: Thank you Mayor, members of the council. This item.. .interpretation
of staffs.. . staff interpretation and I'll go through that in a minute. This item first
appeared before the Planning Commission back on June 20th and at that time staff...
There was concern with the Planning Commission the direction.. .and how the property
was being used so they asked us to look a little deeper into actually how the property was
being used so I'll go through that in a minute too. But the critical thing that you're here
tonight to discuss is the variance, and there's some other.. .issues that I'll touch on too.
.. .and the subject property is located here. There's an existing house that recently
burned, but ordinance does allow to build to the existing structure. There are some non-
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