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PC 2015 10 06 CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING OCTOBER 6, 2015 Vice Chairman Weick called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: Steve Weick, Mark Undestad, John Tietz, Nancy Madsen, and Lisa Hokkanen MEMBERS ABSENT: Andrew Aller and Maryam Yusuf STAFF PRESENT: Bob Generous, Senior Planner PUBLIC HEARING: INDOOR GUN RANGE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, PLANNING CASE 2015-22: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO PERMIT A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT INDOOR GUN RANGE (STOCK AND BARREL) ON PROPERTY ZONED INDUSTRIAL OFFICE PARK (IOP) AND LOCATED AT 18832 LAKE DRIVE EAST ND (LOT 1, BLOCK 1, CHANHASSEN EAST BUSINESS CENTER 2 ADDITION). APPLICANT: GRINDSTONE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES. OWNER: CSM INVESTORS, INC. Generous: Thank you Chairman Weick and commissioners. One item, the Minnetonka Middle School item was published and noticed for tonight but that item was withdrawn so that’s why we don’t have that on the agenda. Before us is Planning Case 2015-22. We have the numbers wrong. Grindstone Construction Services and CSM Investors Inc are the applicants. Again this is a public hearing tonight before the Planning Commission. This item is scheduled for City th Council on October 26. The property is located at 18832 Lake Drive East. This is on the east side of town. It’s part of the only part of the city that’s actually within Hennepin County. The development of this area by CSM began in 1996. At that time they platted the most, two most easterly lots and they outlotted this parcel. The first 3 buildings in Chanhassen East Business Park are each 64,000 square foot buildings so they were office industrial warehouse buildings. The request before us, this property is zoned industrial office park. It’s guided in our Comprehensive Plan for office industrial uses. In the IOP district indoor gun ranges are listed as conditional uses. Access to this property will be via Lake Drive East which is a collector roadway under the City’s hierarchy of street systems. Again the IOP district permits indoor gun ranges as conditional use permits. In 2011 the City amended our city code to allow these indoor gun ranges as a conditional use in the IOP District. At that time 17 criteria were developed for reviewing and approving such uses. We also looked at outdoor gun ranges at that time but it was not approved and that portion of the shooting range information died. Again this, the unit that the developer is looking, or that the applicant is looking at is in the northeast corner of the third building within the Chanhassen East Business Park. On the east side of this building there’s approximately 34,000 square feet of vacant space. Their intention is to occupy approximately Chanhassen Planning Commission – October 6, 2015 15,000 square feet of the building. While I’m on here, the entire building on this lot has 127 parking spaces scattered throughout the site. There’s some additional ones on the west that would be available as overflow parking if necessary. Based on the uses within the development the proposed use would require 48 parking spaces. Immediately to the north and east of this unit there are 50 parking spaces. The existing tenant to the west is about 1,800 square feet of office space and the rest is 27,000 square feet of warehouse space. Their parking requirements are 28 spaces and then we assume the rest of the vacant space would develop or be occupied in the future with a mixture of 30 percent office and 70 percent warehouse just to figure out whether there’s sufficient capacity in the site for parking. Those numbers are high. Generally we don’t get that much office space unless it’s all office use and then. So between the 3 units there would be 118 required parking spaces and again the site has 127 so we don’t believe that will be an issue. Again here’s the breakdown of the existing use of the building. On the west side is an existing office warehouse user. Primarily warehouse. The 15,000 square foot that’s being proposed for this use represents about 43 percent of the vacant space within that building so, and then again there’s 19,825 square feet of vacant space that would be to the south of this building. Again this unit is in the northeast corner of the site of the building. Its access is on that northeast corner too. There are some other fire doors that would be into the unit but that would be the entrance into the space. Again this is an indoor gun range and appurtenant uses. The gun range is, represents 5,265 square feet of this space which is about 35 percent of the use. There’s also classrooms in there that are proposed for that. They would represent 7 percent of the area. There’s a commercial or retail area right in the entrance and that goes into the other office and lounge area and that represents 18 ½ percent of the use of the unit. Under the IOP district regulations and the criteria up to 20 percent of an industrial space may be used for more like retail or commercial type uses so they fall within the guidelines. And then the rest of it, 34 percent of the area would be a lounge area, lavatories, offices, things like that. The gun range itself is proposed to have 14 lanes for shooting. Again they’d have to comply with all the requirements for noise, HVAC and the ability to stop ammunition that’s used with that. One of the criteria we look at is they have to specify the maximum size round that could be fired in this facility. The proposed use complies, well as far as they can up to this point complies with all those criteria. A lot of it will come out as we review the building permit. We will look at the specific construction standards and the air handling equipment and things like that. Staff is recommending approval of the conditional use permit for the indoor gun range subject to conditions in the staff report and adoption of the Findings of Fact and Recommendation. And with that I’d be happy to answer any questions. Weick: Open for questions. Madsen: I have a question about the noise. So if they build it and there’s noise that a tenant could hear, is there any remedy for the City to go back and correct that? Generous: Yes there would be because it’s a requirement under the ordinance and so they would be in violation of this conditional use permit and we can make them correct that. 2 Chanhassen Planning Commission – October 6, 2015 Madsen: Thank you. Tietz: Bob, so that means that any adjacent walls where there’s unoccupied space now but potentially rented in the future, that parcel to the south. Generous: Yes. Tietz: The sound attenuation would be part of the building permit review for that, for any walls that abut and adjacent. Generous: For all interior units and also exterior units because we don’t want the noise to go out into the general public either so. And they probably could explain it better. There are systems in place that they’ve been using for these. As I stated in the report they’ve told me it’s not, it’s loud as a daycare. Not as loud as a daycare. Weick: Any other questions at this time? Great. If the applicant would like to make a presentation, you’re welcome to do so at this time. Just state your name and who you’re representing. Jeff Berends: Jeff Berends with Grindstone Construction and then this is Chris Schutrop with Block and Technical. The actual tenant. Weick: Okay. Jeff Berends: And then Fritz Budig from Grindstone Construction as well. Fritz will be able to help understand, give you an understanding of the technical parameters as far as sound attenuation. How we’re going to contain the bullets within the gun range itself and then Chris will be able to help identify any questions pertaining to operations and things like that so Fritz you want to talk at all about sound or anything? Fritz Budig: Absolutely. Tietz: Is the mic on? I don’t think so. Weick: Yep. Fritz Budig: Is it on? Weick: Yep. Fritz Budig: Hello. As Jeff said my name is Fritz. I’m with Grindstone Construction. We’re working with the team on doing the construction of this indoor shooting range facility. I want to address one of the concerns is the bullet trap. The containment system on a safety factor. The 3 Chanhassen Planning Commission – October 6, 2015 entire bullet trap face, none of that actually projects into the shooting range. For example where the bullet trap containment system meets the floor and where it meets the walls, it’s recessed into the floor and walls so there aren’t any protruding areas to cause any ricochet so for the shooters perspective it’s all down range. It all goes into the containment system. The bullet trap material, the backstop if you will is a 3/8 thick armor platted AR500 steel and right directly where the primary target area is, it’s actually a half inch thick steel for a little extra you know support. Basically it’s the front edge of it is a knife edge. We brought a couple pictures. I don’t know if you can see them or not but. Generous: If you put it right on top of that. Fritz Budig: Right on top of here? Generous: No on top of this. Fritz Budig: Okay. There we go. So what you’re seeing there, I know it’s hard to maybe decipher. I’ll start with this picture here. So this is, this is the back side of the range so when you come in behind the, in the range area the bucket underneath there is what collects the lead if you will. The bullet. The cylinder or the area that looks like its angled back is actually this picture here. That’s the front knife edge you see as the shooter so as you’re shooting down range you’re actually, your target is centered on the two areas right in the back, if that picture makes a little bit of sense there. And then the black space you see to the left and right of that knife edge that is actually the front edge of this cylinder right here where it’s collecting all of the bullets so to speak. All rounds that are fired either at the floor, the side walls, the ceiling plates, the backstop which I’ll kind of get into that and show you guys that, all rounds get directed back towards that backstop. If someone misfires, shoots and hits the floor, it goes into the backstop. It’s amazing. The system out of, from Shooting Range Industries is a proven system. If a bullet, if a shooter shoots and hits the ceiling panels, the same deal. There’s armor platted baffles every so often that there is virtually impossible for a round to escape from this, if you will the chamber from the shooting area. The bucket you’re seeing in that picture before is then the bullet goes into that. The bucket gets emptied as needed. It could be an every other day. A weekly basis depending on the amount of use. The back area is vacuumed. Cleaned up and you know I guess that’s about it for that bullet trap. There’s the ammunition to be used, I know it had been brought up that the ammunition is a certain size. It can go up to a 50 caliber. It’s got to be either rim fire center fire. It’s got to be, there can be shotgun slugs but it’s primarily pistol rifle shotgun slug. There’s no shotgun. No muzzle loaders. It’s you know bird shot, that kind of stuff I should say. The ceiling plates, which are a series of ceiling plates that go at an angle. At a 30 degree angle away from the shooting stand and those are what I was talking about earlier that are protecting the structure of the building and neighboring tenants and HVAC equipment and all kinds of stuff. There are 9 of those. The first 3 are right from the firing lane at a flat right in front of you and those 9 plates are covered with 2 by material. Plywood and then a fireproof ceiling system so in the event that a shooter does shoot straight up in the air, the fireproof panel and the plywood absorb the bullet. It dissipates and it just falls apart up in that system. It doesn’t ricochet back 4 Chanhassen Planning Commission – October 6, 2015 down so as a shooter you’re safe all along. The next 6 panels down the range are basically taking that bullet, if someone decides to shoot and it hits one of the panels. It takes that and it just brings it right back to the bullet trap. Everything again directs back to that bullet trap. The bottom edge of the steel baffles are in line so your steel baffles I’m talking about are actually in line with the top of the bullet trap system itself so there’s, you know again everything’s again self contained. The firing line stalls are I think we have in your book you have a picture that we can show them. The firing line stalls are 42 inches in width for each shooter. There’ll be 14 lanes like was mentioned and they’re actually separated by diamond plate, more of a decorative steel but within that steel we dump pea gravel inside the steel of all things and the pea gravel really dissipates the shock of that bullet so if a shooter were to mistakenly shoot to the left or right, your fellow neighbor shooter’s going to be fine. Perfect. So see this right here, it’s not a very good representation but that is actually 2 inches thick. Filled with pea gravel. So that’s what separates you from your neighbor while you’re shooting. And I guess that’s it for the firing lanes. Are there any questions on the ceiling plates, the firing line stalls, the backstop, anything? What’s what? Oh yeah I’m sorry. So outside of the steel, the actual construction of this room is an 8 inch masonry wall, core filled solid so. Yeah, all 4 walls so you’ll have the wall behind the firing lane. You’ll have the wall behind the steel backstop. Then you have the walls to your left and right so the backstop, if the backstop should fail, which I, because it’s unheard of. It’s you know, you still have an 8 inch thick masonry wall that’s reinforced with rebar and concrete solid grouting. So that’s that and then it’s, the ceiling system again is all protected by the baffles. Weick: Okay. Fritz Budig: Okay, no questions on that then? Tietz: Just one, or a couple questions related to HVAC and fire protection. Fritz Budig: Sure. Tietz: I assume that there are penetrations in that ceiling then to bring air in and fresh, and circulate air and then the fire suppression system would be above that ceiling and below the ceiling? Fritz Budig: Yes that’s, I’m going to skip a page back here. I brought, I got as far as the HVAC system goes that’s 100 percent what’s going to happen. The HVAC system’s got a large make up air. It’s got intake and exhaust and it’s got air scrubbers in it to get the lead out of the air. The contaminants out of the air. Meeting all the clean indoor acts. The filters are then cleaned based on a meter to tell us when they’re dirty. When they need to be cleaned so yeah that takes all that up. The fire protection, I’ll open this up and show you this, the baffles which if you haven’t seen it rain they’re kind of hard to picture. I’ll show you if I can get this underneath your deal. If I can get that in there. There we go. Perfect. So what you’re seeing here in this top part of the plan, all these V’s here, that’s your, that’s the actual range system itself that you’re shooting into. The end down here is your firing line. Going down this section here is a 5 Chanhassen Planning Commission – October 6, 2015 cut through section through the range so if you see this here, those at an angle. There’s 6 of them. 1, 2, 3, 5, 6. Those are all at that 30 degree angle pointing the bullets down to the gun trap. The bullet trap. Okay. Your fire protection system, the lighting, all that good stuff is inbetween the baffles so you have complete coverage in the event of a fire. The sprinkler heads will go off at needed. Tietz: Okay, thanks. That helps explain it. I didn’t know if it was a continuous ceiling or it’s a baffled ceiling with a 30 degree. Fritz Budig: Yep. Tietz: Thanks. Fritz Budig: You’re welcome. Any more questions on that? Undestad: While you have that plan on there, are all the dashed lines in the bigger plan, are those all masonry walls? Fritz Budig: Sorry, in here? Undestad: Yeah the cross hatched lines. You’ve got a couple of them running through the middle of the building and the perimeter. Fritz Budig: Right here. Undestad: No, no. Fritz Budig: Right here. Undestad: Right there, yeah. Fritz Budig: Yes. Yes that’s, this is, what we’re going to do is we’re proposing, it’s 14 lanes. HVAC system works on a 7 lane increment so we’ll have these 7 lanes as one. So this will be a masonry wall, correct. And then this will be another. This masonry wall may or may not go in but it will for sure go in for the 7. This masonry wall may stop short of that but yes. Undestad: And then the entrance to the lanes it looks like you’ve got to go through a double masonry wall to get into the actual shooting area. Fritz Budig: Correct. That’s our airlock. We have a constant negative pressure inside the gun range so that will be your airlock which is exactly what it is and then you go on into the next room. 6 Chanhassen Planning Commission – October 6, 2015 Undestad: Okay. Fritz Budig: And that’s all, that’s all masonry as well. I do want to bring up, I know noise is a concern and we’re well aware of it and we do our due diligence and we have a plan in place to remedy that. We’ve actually, I know it was brought up here in the meeting that the decibel readings, we’ve built a few of these things in the past. We’ve actually taken decibel readings right outside the back door of a gun range. Same exact manufacturer. The door was behind, right in this area. The decibel readings were in the upper 50’s, low 60’s which is comfortable. Very tolerable. There is a daycare facility next door to this place so we took the readings, the Chief of Police and I took the readings. The one we built, yes. It was and the kids were out playing, having a great time and the noise was actually louder than what we were getting from the gun range so I know the Chief kind of got a kick out of that one so. The, in an effort and to keep the noise down is what we do is on the first, on the first 10 feet of the range here we put a sound attenuated material. It’s about 2 inches thick and that’s where primarily where your noise comes from, the muzzle blast. Then we also put it on, back here just so it deadens that sound as well. Once that bullet leaves the muzzle and is traveling down here it’s fairly quiet again until it hits that backstop and then we have some soundproofing procedures that we do on this back wall as needed. So, and then throughout the space, throughout the retail area, throughout the classrooms and kind of, it’s kind of a situation where we get the range in. We get it operational like you’re seeing a conditional use permit. If we find we need more, more sound product in there we kind of just, you know we add it as we need it basically. It’s hard to, it’s hard to know until you actually start using it exactly how much you need. Undestad: So one more. So is Grindstone Construction, is that all you guys do is, you do all the construction for these gun ranges? Fritz Budig: It’s not all we do but it’s one of the things that we do. Undestad: You’ve done a number of them. Fritz Budig: I did. We have. We’ve done, this will be our fourth one so we’ve done Ramsey. Total Defense in Ramsey. It’s on our website. I did Maple Grove Law Enforcement range some years ago and we did another range up in the northern metro. Another private range. So we’ve done a few of these too. We’ve worked with Shooting Range Industries. They’re a great company out of Las Vegas. They stand behind their equipment. They’ve been in business for over 20 years. They have ranges that they sold 20 years ago. I wasn’t doing it then but they’re still on the market being used today so it’s a good product. Undestad: Do they do all the engineering and stuff for the lanes and the? Fritz Budig: They do. They’ve done all the engineering and one of the things nice about Shooting Range Industries is, as this is being constructed they send a range supervisor out so they’re supervising the assembly of it. Once we get it assembled they supervise the testing of it. 7 Chanhassen Planning Commission – October 6, 2015 It’s, they’re not just selling this product and throwing it out there. It’s a tried and true tested product at the end of the day. Weick: Other presentations? Fritz Budig: No sir, that’s all I have. Chris do you have anything you want to talk about? Jeff Berends: Do you have any questions about security within the building or anything like that? Tietz: Yeah I’d have a question about safety and security and how ammunition is handled and how it’s maintained. You know if a user of the facility comes in with their own ammunition and how it’s controlled inside the space and when they leave and the type of supervision over anyone who is in the facility. Could you explain how that is handled? Chris Schutrop: I can do that. Fritz Budig: You want to do that? Chris Schutrop: Yeah I can absolutely do that. So fantastic question. Basically a couple different ways on how that, how that process works. So an individual walks in and as soon as they walk in, you know we obviously have policies and we have a receptionist also and for someone who’s going for the first time but we require that inside, or I should say outside the actual shooting range itself everything is going to be cased and unloaded so that includes your ammunition. That includes your gun and what have you so they’re able to then, you know from that juncture, gun is all cased. Fully secure. They go out there and we bring them into the range and once they’re inside the range, that’s when they can uncase it and load up their magazines or their gun and what not and have a good afternoon. As far as any storage of ammunition on site, that’s done within compliance of state regulations on that so beyond a certain amount of ammunition is required to be stored in a certain way and we’re going to be in compliance with that standard that’s inside of that. As far as safety goes, every single one of our employees that we have is Range Safety Officer certified and every single customer that comes in for the first time and on an annual renewing basis is required to go through a range safety brief and that’s done by an NRA certified Chief Range Safety Officer and they’ve had very, you know the…standards as far as how do you safely go out there and shoot and run a range. NRA’s done a fantastic job of putting a curriculum out there and basically we’re just going to follow exactly what they have because it works. So on top of them going through that process every single one of our employees, like I mentioned is also Range Safety Officer certified so that in the event of something happening or what not, everyone’s able to go out there and keep a mind on safety. You know we sort of have, you know a main goal and really what our purpose is to do is to go out there is perpetuate safety, education and training to people so that’s what we’re about and that’s my background primarily is going out there in the education side of things and I have you 8 Chanhassen Planning Commission – October 6, 2015 know ran thousands of range sessions and that’s sort of the process that we find works best and we never had an incident as a result of that so, does that answer your question? Tietz: Well it does partially. If you had all 14 lanes in use and you say that your active hours are between 6:00 p.m. and 8:00 p.m. likely and you have folks waiting, what’s your ratio of instructors or supervisors to the number of people at the shooting range or at the 14 slots? Is it a ratio of you know 4 to 1 or what’s, what kind of supervision do you provide in the facility? Chris Schutrop: Sure absolutely. So in a scenario where all the, all the bays are packed or the lanes are packed I should say we’ll go out there and we’ll have a supervisor dedicated to that range. Now keep in mind that with the width of this and the way that it’s set up it allows us to be very, very on top of things. I’ve been to ranges in different states that don’t have a safety officer at all in the entire facility and sort of self governed. We’ll actually go out there and have a staff member actively supervising watching these individuals and once again everyone who’s walking into this range has gone through a basically a 10 minute safety brief on the exact procedures and processes that keep everyone safe as a result. Tietz: Okay. Chris Schutrop: Any other questions on that piece? Weick: I do. Is it only bring your own gun or do you also offer guns on site for people to use? Chris Schutrop: Sure, yeah absolutely that’s a great question. So it’s both obviously. You can come on there with your own guns that you want to use and everything and we also offer a service where people can go out there and rent that and if they’re renting we require a you know state issued ID, so your drivers license. And then we also require a permit to carry or a permit to purchase which are either, in the case of a permit to purchase it’s a city issued document basically saying that you went through a background check so we can, the people going up are getting access and obviously a permit to carry is a state issued and they go through the exact same background check processes so it helps sort of vet everyone before we go out there and handle a gun obviously. Yep, did that answer your question? Weick: Yes. Chris Schutrop: Fantastic. Undestad: On that same topic there, what I mean from the city standpoint what’s, I didn’t see anything in here that kind of says yes, this is what we do and this is our policy on there because I think the rental side of thing is where most of the range is getting a little dicey in there anyways so. Chris Schutrop: Sure. 9 Chanhassen Planning Commission – October 6, 2015 Undestad: I like what you’re doing with the background and that but, you know you’re telling us you do this but 6 months into the range you know is there something in place that says everybody that rents a gun will get this background check? Chris Schutrop: Sure. It’s not so much that we’re issuing a background check. We’re looking at the documentation that is issued. Undestad: That they need to have. Chris Schutrop: As a result and if for some reason let’s say someone gets their licenser from the state and lo and behold something happens. They commit a crime. They get convicted of it. The State actually goes out there and actively takes that back from them so they do that process. Does that somewhat answer, I didn’t fully understand your question but… Undestad: Yeah, no, no again the process I like that that’s in place but you know if somebody comes into your establishment and says I don’t have one of these. Can I rent a gun? I’m just going to shoot it for a little bit or something. Chris Schutrop: Yeah the answer is no. You know it’s a policy that we have in place because we want consistency and you know I’m a business guy and I’ll go on a slight tangent but you know processes run businesses so we don’t want to go out there and deviate from that ultimately so the answer is that it’s a policy that we have that’s non-negotiable. So someone can’t necessarily come off the street and say yeah I just want to go out there and use and we say hey that’s fantastic. You know what this is the phone number and the address of the Carver County Sheriff. You can go down there and apply for your permit to purchase or we teach permit to carry classes and then you can apply with the State to get that. So for us it’s not so much a well you know let’s do a back alley deal kind of here. It’s a hard policy that we require and is inside of our standard operating procedures. Undestad: Okay. And how many of these do you have? Ranges. Chris Schutrop: I don’t have any ranges. My background is, is that for the past 5 years I’ve gone out there and started a firemen’s training company and that operates in about 27 states. We teach about 30,000 people a year through that company and I own that organization. Then in apparel I also own a company that manufacturers…ammunition and law enforcement ammunition so the next segue obviously was open a range so that’s my background a little bit. Undestad: But you’ll be the operating entity of this range? Chris Schutrop: Sure I’m the CEO of the organization. We’ll obviously have. Undestad: So the stock and barrel. 10 Chanhassen Planning Commission – October 6, 2015 Chris Schutrop: Yep, Stock and Barrel, I’m the CEO of that company. I’m a shareholder of that and then obviously day to day operations we have a number of employees that will be running that, a number of which are former law enforcement and military which we find are the best people to hire so it sort of helps reinforce the mantra that they’ve been brought up with as far as safety and perpetuate that inside of a culture as a company. Undestad: Okay, good. Thank you. Chris Schutrop: Absolutely. Any other questions I can answer for the council? Madsen: I have a question. Chris Schutrop: Yes ma’am. Madsen: So do you carry liability insurance in the event of, if there’s any issues that could occur? Chris Schutrop: Yep we carry a couple different policies. So first of which is a range liability policy. So that covers specifically shooting and then secondarily we have our general liability policy which you know someone rolls and ankle outside you know and you know whatever happens we have that so we sort of have two fold a policy sort of protecting us from that piece there. Madsen: Okay, thank you. Chris Schutrop: Absolutely, you’re welcome. Any other questions? Weick: Anything else? Any other piece of information you want to share? Jeff Berends: If there’s no more questions I guess that’s it. Weick: Good, okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. At this time we will open the public hearing portion tonight so anyone wishing to come forward, please come forward to the podium. State your name and address and your comment on the issue. Seeing nobody come forward we will close the public hearing portion of the hearing. Are there any comments or further questions from councilmembers. Commission members. Hokkanen: No. I think that they’ve put a good plan together addressing safety and noise and that’s going to be what most people are concerned about and I think they’ve explained everything and that it will be. I’m very satisfied with that. 11 Chanhassen Planning Commission – October 6, 2015 Weick: And noise sounds like it’s something that can be monitored ongoing through the conditional use permit so I think that would certainly please any neighbors that might potentially have issues down the road. Hokkanen: I agree. Tietz: The conditions of approval seem to be quite lengthy but in response to and follow up to Mark’s question, now does the City have the ability to pull the permit of use if there are any problems and issues? Generous: We always have the ability to void a conditional use permit, yes. If they violate the conditions of approval. It does have to go back to City Council but it can be done. And we, as part of this process we did involve law enforcement as a part of their review and they didn’t really have any concerns with it. They thought it was a good use. Something that they need. Tietz: Yeah would Carver County, would our sheriff’s department use the facility? Generous: I don’t know as a unit they would but I know individuals will. Tietz: Okay. Weick: Any other thoughts? I certainly would entertain a motion. Undestad: I’ll make a motion that the Planning Commission recommends the City Council approve the conditional use permit subject to the conditions of approval and adopts the Findings of Fact and Recommendation. Weick: We have a motion. Do we have a second? Hokkanen: Second. Weick: We have a motion and a second. Undestad moved, Hokkanen seconded that the Chanhassen Planning Commission recommends the City Council approve the Conditional Use Permit for an indoor gun range nd on Lot 1, Block 1, Chanhassen East Business Center 2 Addition, subject to the following conditions and adopts the Findings of Fact and Recommendation: 1.Permits must be obtained for the construction of, alteration of, or occupancy use changes to any buildings on the site. 12 Chanhassen Planning Commission – October 6, 2015 2.The use, occupancy and construction of the building shall conform to the Minnesota State Building Code. 3.The building and method of operation shall comply with M.S. Chapter 87A. 4.The design and construction of the gun range shall completely confine all ammunition rounds within the building and in a controlled manner. The design and construction of the gun range shall be certified by a registered engineer in the State of Minnesota. The certified plans shall include the specifications and construction of the bullet trap(s), ceilings, exterior and interior walls and floors. The certified plans shall state what type and caliber of ammunition the range is designed to totally confine. 5.No ammunition shall be used in the range that exceeds the certified design and construction specifications of the gun range. 6.Firearms shall not be stored on the premises when the range is closed for business, unless they are stored in an acceptable gun safe or other secure locking device. 7.On-site supervision shall be supplied at all times by an adult who is an experienced range operator. The range operator shall be responsible for the conduct of their place of business and the conditions of safety and order in the place of business and on the premises. 8.Each range shall have a clear and concise safety plan. The plan must be signed, published, and reviewed at specific intervals and distributed to all range users to study and use. 9.The range operator shall provide and maintain proof of liability insurance which shall require the insurer notify the city manager in writing of cancellation of the policy, a change in the limit of the policy, and/or a change in policy ownership. Said policy shall be available for inspection by the city manager and/or his/her assigns at all times. 10.On-site instruction shall be given only by firearms instructors certified within the prior five years by an organization or government entity that has been approved by the Minnesota Department of Public Safety. Current certificates for firearms instructors shall be on display in a conspicuous location in the premises and available for public inspection. 11.An outside security plan for the general grounds shall be submitted to the city for review and approval. 12.The transport of firearms on the premises, to the premises, and from the premises shall conform to state law. 13.Minors shall not be allowed in the range unless accompanied by an adult at all times. This provision shall not be interpreted to prohibit minors from participating in a firearm safety class which is supervised by an adult instructor. 13 Chanhassen Planning Commission – October 6, 2015 14.In the industrial office park district, retail sales and rental shall be limited to gun-related material and equipment with a maximum display area of 20 percent of the floor area. 15.The gun range shall be soundproofed to prevent the sound from being heard by persons in adjoining units. 16.If additional parking is required, a plan must be submitted showing the proposed parking expansion, including the existing and proposed grading and any necessary storm sewer improvements. This plan would also be subject to review and approval from the Riley Purgatory Bluff Creek Watershed District. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0. Weick: The item number 2015-22 passes unanimously 5 to 0. The Planning Commission, it will be reviewed on October 26, 2015 in front of the City Council. At that time if you wish to follow this item that would be the place to follow it. That is the only item we have to review this evening. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Weick: Would someone like to note? Generous: Mr. Chairman. Weick: Yes. Generous: There is one modification on page 21 of the Planning Commission staff report. Commissioner Aller’s said wheat from chaff instead of wheat from shaft so it was a correction in the. Weick: In the Minutes? Generous: Yes in the Minutes. Weick: So noted. Can we have an approval of the Minutes at this point? Commissioner Tietz noted the verbatim and summary Minutes of the Planning Commission meeting dated September 15, 2015 with a change on page 21, changing “wheat from shaft” to “wheat from chaff”. COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS. None. 14 Chanhassen Planning Commission – October 6, 2015 ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS. Weick: Are there any staff or administrative presentations at this time? Generous: Yes. The City Council approved the final plat and development contract for the Glaccum Highlands development so that is going forward. They have the erosion control up. I believe they are removing trees. Weick: They are gone. Generous: So that’s it. We don’t have a lot that went to City Council. Future Planning thrd Commission agenda. We don’t have meetings on October 20 or November 3 so you have a th month off. However on November 17 we believe we’ll have a subdivision and site plan review in downtown here. We will be doing an official mapping for the 101 corridor from Pioneer Trail down to County State Aid 61. And we’ll probably move the code amendments up for the public hearing process. Do that week too so that we can get everything to City Council in December or the end of November. And then just note Davanni’s open up. Noodles and Company are in for their, they’re pretty close. I don’t know if they’ve opened yet but they have their signage is in th place. Farmer’s Insurance moved into, on West 78 Street and Starbucks Coffee opened up. Weick: I saw people at the drive thru. Generous: It was sort of hectic the first day morning. They were stacked and people were doing U turns and going away but we believe over time that will sort of mellow itself out. Hokkanen: Hopefully. Generous: So then are other some Community bank is changing its name so they’re coming in for a new sign permit to Charter Bank. And then Henkel, Medtronic, and Palm Beach Tan all applied for sign permits. That’s it. Weick: That’s it? Do we as a matter of process do we have a motion to adjourn? Generous: Motion to adjourn. Hokkanen moved, Undestad seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0. The Planning Commission meeting was adjourned at 7:40 p.m. Submitted by Kate Aanenson Community Development Director Prepared by Nann Opheim 15