PRC 2018 08 28CHANHASSEN PARK AND
RECREATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
AUGUST 28, 2018
Chairman Scharfenberg called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Steve Scharfenberg, Cole Kelly, Rick Echternacht, Jim Boettcher,
Meredith Petouvis, and Joe Scanlon,
MEMBERS ABSENT: Karl Tsuchiya, and Grant Schaeferle
STAFF PRESENT: Todd Hoffman, Park and Rec Director; Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation
Superintendent; and Adam Beer, Park Superintendent
APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Chairman Scharfenberg approved the agenda as presented.
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Scharfenberg: Todd any public announcements:
Hoffman: None other than the Red Birds.
Scharfenberg: Yeah I’ll make an announcement about the Chanhassen Red Birds are in the State
Class B Championship, or playoff’s I should say and they have proceeded into the semi-finals
against two time defending champions Miesville Mudhens. Mudhens and they play this coming
Saturday in Jordan at 2:00 so if you don’t have any plans this Labor Day weekend travel down to
Miesville. You can also check out the bracket on the Minnesota Baseball Association.org
website because if they win on Saturday then they would end up playing again on Monday. So
we support the Red Birds and hope they continue onto the State Championship.
Hoffman: Jordan on Saturday.
Scharfenberg: Jordan.
Hoffman: Jordan yep at the Jordan Mini Met so you can’t, don’t miss the Met or the Mini Met.
Scharfenberg: Yep and other games and I would say check the website if you do want to go to a
game because they’re not all at Jordan. Shakopee is also hosting and I think maybe games would
be played on Monday at Shakopee so alright.
VISITOR PRESENTATIONS. None.
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Kelly: Point of order.
Scharfenberg: Okay.
Kelly: All I could pull up was the summary when I went to pull Minutes. I don’t think we can
vote on this until we have the full Minutes.
Scharfenberg: Okay.
Hoffman: The tape recording did not work that night so summary minutes is what we’re going
to have.
Kelly: Oh it is?
Hoffman: Yep.
Kelly: Okay.
Hoffman: Apologize for that.
Scharfenberg: So can we have a motion then to approve the summary Minutes for the July 24,
2018 meeting.
Echternacht: So moved.
Scharfenberg: We have a motion. Do we have a second?
Boettcher: Second.
Echternacht moved, Boettcher seconded to approve the Summary Minutes of the Park and
Recreation Commission meeting dated July 24, 2018 as presented. All voted in favor and
the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6 to 0.
RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL 2019-2023 PARK AND TRAIL
ACQUISITION AND DEVELOPMENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM (CIP).
Hoffman: Thank you Chair Scharfenberg, members of the commission. The motion this
evening is that the Park and Recreation Commission recommends that the City Council approve
a 2019-2023 Park and Trail Acquisition and Development CIP totaling $1,215,000 to complete
the projects listed in Attachment #2. So I’ll go over those individually year by year. Before I do
that I’ll give you a little bit of update on where the park fund is at. The City recently wrote a half
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a million dollar check to Gonyea or Fox Woods LLC for their first payment on the Highway 101
trail so we’re, the majority of that work is done and you’ll see that later on in Adam’s
presentation. So with that check out of the fund the current balance is $1,487,000. $1,487,000
in the park fund. So we’re still, the fund is still viable and has a positive balance but this year as
you recall in total will be about a $1.3 million dollar year with Lake Ann, excuse me. Lake
Susan lights, the Highway 101 trail construction at $835,000. Lake Susan lights for right around
that $300,000 mark and then the Manchester Park about $150,000. So in comparison you’ve
invested $1.3 million in 2018 and we’re looking at a $1.2 million 5 year CIP so it’s quite a
reduction and that’s based on really some themes that I’ll talk about tonight so the themes are
what’s in. What’s in the recommended CIP. What’s out. What’s out of the recommended CIP.
And what price changes are there so as we talk about these projects that were, the majority of the
projects, what’s out is anything that we are not obligated to perform. What’s in are projects that
we’re obligated to perform by a development contract through development agreement that we
have with someone in the city. So some development that we’re obligated to complete a project.
Either the County. The Arboretum trail. The lot out in the Arboretum Business Park so those
we’re obligated. Those need to stay in by contract and we’ll talk about some prices changes on
those particular projects. Any questions before I start?
Kelly: Todd the $500,000 that came out before you gave us the $1.487?
Hoffman: Correct.
Kelly: Thank you.
Hoffman: Okay. 2019 the recommended projects, so I’ll talk about picnic tables and tree
planting once. So annually we buy a variety of things, not just picnic tables and benches but
there could be some trash receptacles or something that comes out of there so it’s kind of like
park equipment. For the most part it is picnic tables and some benches and that $10,000 is
typically expended on an annual basis so there’s not really a year that we don’t utilize that
money. For example next year the entire $10,000 will be utilized to buy those two shaded picnic
tables for the Roundhouse pickleball. And so similar to the two that we have at the Rec Center
and the two that we have out in front here we’ll purchase two there. Pour them a concrete pad.
Kind of a patio. If you’ve watched that pickleball it’s a real social activity. People show up.
There might be 10 or 12 people that show up at a time. They put their paddles down and they
stand around and sit and have a conversation and without having a place to do that what they’ve
done is we’ve offered a couple of picnic tables and they’ve brought their own shade umbrellas so
we might as well provide that since it is such an integral part of the sport that they play. So
that’s just one example. For next year that money will already be expended just for those two
singular picnic tables. Tree planting, on an annual basis we’re planting trees in a variety of
locations and that is both replacement but then just new parks and new tree initiatives so that is
complimented by oh probably double that or more from the planning department. Jill Sinclair
and her group so if you take the, you know Jill’s, she’s investing $30,000 plus and we’re
investing $15,000 so that gives you at least $50,000 a year is being invested in new trees in this
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community so it’s a big chunk of cash and it’s an important initiative annually. 2019 we’ll have,
that’s next year we’ll have tennis court rehabilitation. $150,000. That’s a non-park fund source
of cash and we’ll be taking a look at a variety of courts. Both rehabilitating and then complete
reconstruction where necessary. So that’s a project that’s coming up next year. The Arboretum
trail on Highway 41, pedestrian underpass cost share. So we’ve installed that in 2020. It’s now
at $600,000 and so in a previous budget it probably may have been listed at $400,000. In a
previous budget to that it was listed at $150,000 I believe so that’s the County’s current best
estimate for the City share. The Arboretum will pay that as well. The Arboretum will pay the
$600,000. The City will pay the $600,000. The grant is about $1.2 million from the Federal
Transportation so it’s a significant project. That’s the trail from Century Boulevard into the
Arboretum and then over to the other side. The County is starting to send a memorandum of
understanding or a MOU in that we’ll talk about the formula. So if costs do come in lower or
higher that $600,000 will either go up or down based on where those bids come in.
Kelly: I’m sorry Todd, did I miss it. When are the bids supposed to come in for that?
Hoffman: It’s a 2019 project so they’ll probably come in after the first of the year.
Kelly: Okay, thank you.
Hoffman: And that’s a County project and so we’re a party to that and we may have to write
some checks back to the County in 2019. More likely in 2020 that’s why we put it in both those
years.
Scharfenberg: But it’s just one sum of $600,000 right?
Hoffman: Correct.
Scharfenberg: Correct.
Hoffman: Total. Chanhassen Nature Preserve trail extension. This currently is involved with a
business called Control Concepts. They’re in for a site plan review. They may or may not move
forward. The original dollar amount was $90,000 to build the trail. We don’t know where the
numbers are going to end up because there’s right now a negotiation over some wall costs. Some
retaining wall costs and so it may end up to be closer to that $90,000 if this project moves
through depending on where we end up with the negotiations it could be higher than that so I’ve
put a number of $200,000 in there and that may be the number. It might be something less. It
might be something more depending on where this all goes. Control Concepts is currently
deciding if they want to, even want to move forward because of the cost of the walls. They’re
not associated with the trail. The trail would be at the bottom of the walls but the walls need to
be built to support this building pad that they’re creating out there and this is the business just
north of Mamac Systems on Century Boulevard. And there’s also the site is being, it’s expensive
because they’re stormwater utilities would have to go underneath the parking lot which raises
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their cost for their project so I can’t tell you exactly where that’s going to land but that’s the
current estimate at least based on the design that is, it may be back into council at their next
meeting or if they decide to withdraw they’ll withdraw. And then in 2019, and this is related to
why we need to start putting some projects on hold and saving some cash and that has to do with
Lake Ann Park expansion feasibility study. So if Lennar moves forward with a successful
preliminary plat and a final plat and the City is granted access in the deed to 98 acres of property
that we need to then have a plan for a trail expansion. That’s what this would do so a feasibility
study says what’s the character of the property. What is the access? What do you have to build
to make this happen? How feasible is it and what will it cost? So that $35,000 would perform
that work and we would have a plan that would tell us costs. Structures. Building materials.
You know permitting. All those different costs would be analyzed. So that’s what a feasibility
study does. Any questions on 2019 or what got dropped out of 2019? I’m not sure that anything
was dropped. No, no projects were dropped so that’s what we have for 2019. 2020, picnic tables
and tree planting and then the Arboretum trail on Highway 41 pedestrian underpass cost share.
The $600,000 and that includes the trail and then the underpass of State Highway 41 so Highway
41, the underpass would be just south of Highway 5 and then the trail would go around the back
side of the large Arboretum sign. Pretty significant project. Again $600,000. You’re looking at
the costs of these recent trail projects, the 101 trail extension at Fox Wood. $835,000 you get a
fairly small section of trail but down to an underpass. It’s really a nice project and then this
$600,000 which is just our share of a much larger project to gain access to the Arboretum via
bicycle and pedestrian access so pretty significant. Yeah the cost is significant. If you look
back, a few years back also Highway 41 that trail, beautiful trail. Significant cost on the city
share but again that was combined with the County and we were above the $600,000 at that time.
And again like many projects that started probably south of $100,000 that everybody thought our
costs were going to be and by the time we were all said and done it was over $600,000 so.
Echternacht: Todd that’s just, the $600,000 is just the underpass?
Hoffman: Nope, the $600,000 is our share for everything. All costs combined and so that
includes the trail from Century to Highway 41, under the underpass and then into the Arboretum,
all the way through the Arboretum and then out the other side. So you get both the trail and the
underpass. And then in 2020 the project that would be taken out or terminated would be
Bandimere Park sport court is a current project in 2020 for $245,000 for the construction of this
states one tennis and 4 pickleball or a sport court. So that would be removed and not included in
the 2019 to 2023 CIP. That’s $245,000 at Bandimere. And also, no that’s it. The cost share, the
last figure was $350,000 and now from $350,000 we’re up to the $600,000 so those are the price
changes that I referred to. Those two items. 2021 there’s, other than picnic tables and benches
there are no park fund projects. Just another round of tennis court rehabilitation and so those
tennis courts are on a schedule and 2021 is the second half of that schedule at half the cost. 2022
no projects. Just again banking money for, by that time if Lake Ann goes through something
will be happening so it’s not in here. That feasibility study will identify the process. It will
identify the year and you know it’s going to be a big number. It’s going to be a million dollar
trail project. You know it could be less than that. Could be more than that but it’s going to be a
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significant number so one of those years that we’re currently not showing a project, that project
would come in if you move forward with that. And if Lennar is building you know 150-200
homes on that property, that’s when the City wants to be in there constructing the trail so all the
construction takes place at one time and when houses start to be sold both the new residents and
the existing neighborhoods can have access to that park space. I wouldn’t want to be the one
holding them up. After all that drama. So 2021 and 2022, no projects identified and then 2023
the same picnic table, tree planting. Just saving money for Lake Ann and then also there’s a
Lake Ann pavilion roof replacement in there so if you’ve seen that roof, it’s wood shakes and
they’re, you could say they currently look like they’re in need of replacement and what we’re
going to make them based on Finance Director Greg Sticha’s timing we’re going to make it to
2023 so that’s what I have for you in the CIP.
Scharfenberg: Todd what are the other, there have to be some other items that are coming out in
those last 3 years.
Hoffman: Let’s take a look. $640,000 in 2023 for the Bandimere Community Park picnic
shelter so 2023 had $640,000 in there for that item.
Kelly: There was $150,000 for Recreation Center fence, dugouts and backstops. Not sure what
year that was.
Hoffman: In 2021. Yeah that comes out. So you’ve got about a million backing out of
Bandimere and $150,000 out of the Rec Center in 2021. And those are the projects. Thank you.
So we’ve always talked about it’s a fluid document. It changes. It’s the commission’s
responsibility to decide if these recommendations are the right direction for the Park CIP to go
and then make a recommendation to the City Council. So I’ll answer questions and I’ll wait for
your discussion.
Scharfenberg: Open it up for questions for Todd.
Kelly: Todd I see for 2018 you’ve got $500,000 in revenues. Are we on track for that or is that
what we pulled in and there might be more? How’s that match where we’re at today?
Hoffman: 2018, we’re on track for that. Yep.
Kelly: Okay. Is that for the full year or is that up to now?
Hoffman: No that’s for the full year. And then Finance Director Sticha agreed to go from the
$200,000 to $300,000 since we haven’t, we’ve been making that number for.
Kelly: That’s that last $300,000.
Hoffman: For a long time.
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Kelly: Thank you.
Hoffman: And that’s going to fluctuate based on the schedule of primarily of Avienda. So
Avienda has modified their site plan from, they’ve reduced the amount of retail and increased the
amount of housing which will generate more revenue but they’ve also continued to ask for park
fee credit for their Bluff Creek Overlay District so they’ve got that large Bluff Creek Overlay
District that they would, needs to be retained because they have to have some green space but
now they’re asking to get credit for it as well so there’s still some ground to cover on that
particular item. There’s other projects as well that are coming in that will generate some fees.
What you’re currently seeing going in the ground is what has supported the park fund so south
on 101. The West Park. Senior Housing. Those are the kind of projects that have been funding
that park fund. In fact for that singular year the Park West was the only item that saved the park
fund that year. That singular.
Kelly: Have we had any internal discussion on the tennis court rehab at the Rec Center? The
pickleball people requested that we make them all pickleball courts. What’s the talk at City Hall
about that right now?
Hoffman: So our thought is that we’re not a pickleball mecca and we could make another, we
could change all those to pickleball and then we would have just a lot of outside people coming
here to play pickleball and so we could, if that’s what we want to do that’s certainly an option as
a commission and the community but we have 10 pickleball courts in a community of 23,000
which is way above the average pickleball court per person in the metro area. We’re likely we’re
at the highest. Eden Prairie might be catching up right now but we’re still one of the highest per
capita pickleball court providers in the metropolitan area and so it’s our belief we currently don’t
need additional courts. The Bandimere could use those courts in the future and that’s a decision
at that location. So you know tennis and pickleball are both sports that people still want to play.
If we built, took the two tennis courts out and built another 6 pickleball would they be utilized?
Yes. Primarily by people outside of our community.
Kelly: Plus you know the Rec Center’s not really a neighborhood park either. There’s no homes
within about a half mile and you know we utilize, if people come in for baseball and soccer to
Lake Ann, Bandimere and Lake Susan from outside the city. You’re making it sound like it’s a
bad thing that we have people coming in from outside the city and I would disagree with that.
And pickleball people like to spend money so hopefully we can, you know retain them in town
and have them eat around town. So I’d be in favor of making the pickleball courts. We see
stunning growth there and you know there’s been no growth in tennis. It’s actually gone
backwards significantly since the 1970’s when it was very popular. So that’s my two cents for
the pickleball courts.
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Hoffman: It’s going to be, so those courts are up so we talked about presenting that in January
so we’ve got some time between now and then as a commission. We’ll present you with a report
based on what our recommendation is and then the commission can decide.
Scharfenberg: Todd is there anything else that’s on the horizon in terms of you know trails that
would be associated with any roadwork or anything like that that we would have some
responsibility for? Anything that you’re aware of that we should potentially have in here.
Hoffman: So Galpin Boulevard north of Highway 5 will be a project. There’ll be trails on both
sides and how those will be financed will most likely be through road funds but it’s still, I think
some of you commissioners have been around long enough to know that if the money runs out
they’ll take a look at anywhere for some cash so that’s a possibility. But it’s more apt when a
project comes in that’s associated with a subdivision and we’re the driver of the trail project then
they’re going to look to us to finance it. In this case this is a County/City road project. It should
be financed through County and City road funds and I don’t think that we’re going to be
expending any dollars there. But there was some discussion about an underpass and anytime you
get an underpass you get costs go up and so they might be looking at some dollars. Beyond that
Lyman Boulevard is going to be improved west of Galpin and there could be some trails
associated with that.
Scharfenberg: When is that scheduled for, do we know?
Hoffman: Still a debate. There’s still a debate going on there. Not sure when the scheduling is.
And then 101 down the bluff is going to be another you know big trail project with a bridge and
trails so there’s still projects yet to be completed in the future.
Scharfenberg: But nothing you don’t think that we would need to put any place note. Place
holder for.
Hoffman: I’m not going to be the first one to jump out in front, no. Any other questions for
Todd?
Kelly: I don’t have any questions for Todd but I think we need to pretty much approve the
budget as it is…other things when we’ve got Lake Ann looming a few years down the road.
Hopefully we’ll have some money here or the City Council will figure out something for that so
I think we’re kind of pigeonholed in where we have to be where we are. So I mean the only
thing I’d like to see that’s different is just a little deal on whether we make Chanhassen Rec
Center all pickleball courts or…tennis courts and obviously we’re refurbishing 4 other tennis
courts next year also. So I’d just like to see something presented to us on that. Other than that
I’m ready to approve the budget…this month or next month I guess it doesn’t matter that much.
Hoffman: This needs to be turned in by Friday.
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Kelly: I guess matters more and more.
Scharfenberg: Okay.
Kelly: We used to be able to do this in September-October didn’t it?
Scharfenberg: Any other comments by anyone? Okay if not I would entertain a motion with
respect to this item.
Kelly: Oh here we are. I found it. I propose a motion that the Park and Rec Commission
recommends the City Council approve the 2019 to 2023 Park and Trail Acquisition and
Development Capital Improvement Program (CIP) totaling $1,215,000 to complete the projects
listed in Attachment 2.
Scharfenberg: We have a motion. Do we have a second?
Echternacht: I’ll second it.
Kelly moved, Echternacht seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission
recommends that the City Council approve a 2019-2023 Park and Trail Acquisition and
Development CIP totaling $1,215,000 to complete the projects listed in Attachment #2. All
voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6 to 0.
Scharfenberg: Motion carries.
Hoffman: We’ll bring that Recreation Center, well we’ll bring the tennis court refurbishment
plan back before the first of the year so we can decide so when we go out to bids we’ll know
what we’re working on. Thank you.
Kelly: Thanks Todd.
Hoffman: Yep thank you.
REPORTS:
MANCHESTER NEIGHBORHOOD PARK CONSTRUCTION AND HIGHWAY 101
TRAIL CONSTRUCTION AT FOXWOOD..
Scharfenberg: Adam is that you?
Beer: Yes sir.
Scharfenberg: Alright.
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Beer: I’ve kind of put together just a brief power point to talk about both Manchester Park and
the Highway 101 trail construction so just to give you guys and those who didn’t, were not able
to attend the joint commission tour. These were two spots we stopped so just going to kind of go
through some slides and kind of fill you guys in where we’re at and give you an opportunity to
ask any questions if you have them. So we’re going to start with Manchester Park. This is just a
concept drawing of the playground that you guys decided and voted on to go in at the park. Just
kind of wanted to give you a little snapshot of what that is going to look like.
Hoffman: That’s the same view as you’re looking at on these future slides so that’s looking from
the water treatment plant towards the cul-de-sac.
Beer: Correct. So we went on our joint commission tour which was on the 6th. We hadn’t broke
ground yet. The engineering department was still kind of making some final grades so we were
able to get in on the 16th of August. Our staff mobilized with Theis Construction which is a firm
that we’ve used quite a bit over the last probably for 20 years. So we started on the 16th with
laying out the playground border and started removing material which was then trucked from the
site back to our shop and is now kind of being redistributed from, to the utility department and
the street department so kind of worked out for us in that regard. So top left corner here you can
see we’re starting to dig out the container. That process took about 4 days of just constant
digging and transporting into our quad and tandem trucks. So once that process was complete
drain tile was put in. The base of the container is all sloped so everything should funnel on our
nice Chanhassen clay right to the drain tile and then out down the hill. Once that process was
complete we brought in the three-quarter clear rock base which goes under all the sidewalks and
the shelter pad. You can see in the bottom right corner everything is framed up and the first
section of sidewalk and the footings were poured on the 23rd and they just finished yesterday the
final pull of the sidewalk so just a few snapshots of what that looked like as of a few days ago
and this is what it looked like this morning with a little bit of rain there but all the concrete is in.
So basically what we have now is the two guys in the corner there are laying out the retaining
wall so they are estimating about 2 days to have that in so everything passed inspection. We’re
good to go. So once the retaining wall’s in there’s a final, I should say we missed one but just
based on how we have to remove a chunk of curb that pushes up against the cul-de-sac there so
once that’s removed the final 8 foot section is going to be poured back in place along with the
shelter pad so that’s going to basically wrap up any of the concrete work that’s going to have to
take place and the installer along with my staff, we’re going to do a joint installation which is
going to start the 4th, which is right after Labor Day so we’re kind of hoping and planning right
now to have that be about a 3 day process assuming we don’t run into any weather issues. So
basically by the end of that week we should be done. The shelter structure’s going to be up and
the playground should be in. Then my staff will move in. The contractor’s will be out of there
and we’ll focus on final grading and restoration and seeding so that’s kind of a quick snapshot of
where we’re at. Things are, you know we started pulling material out on the 16th so we’re
making some good headway. We’ve only had one rain day so far which is good.
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Hoffman: Today?
Beer: No actually last Friday they stopped at about 11:00 so we missed about a half a day. No
they worked all day out there today so things are going well with Manchester. So we’re just kind
of keeping our fingers crossed that we get in good construction weather.
Scharfenberg: What did you say Adam in terms of your kind of completion deadline?
Beer: Well we’re hopefully by the last week in September we’re going to have, I mean
everything. We’re going to be all sitting out there together in the swings. That’s the goal.
Wood chips in place. Seeding done. You know all the restoration’s going to be complete.
That’s our goal so.
Scharfenberg: Okay.
Hoffman: Which is a park built in 45 days. About as fast as you can get it.
Beer: Yeah. Things have kind of aligned pretty well here with, we’ve had good weather.
Working with a good contractor.
Scharfenberg: And Todd will we do like a grand opening this fall?
Hoffman: Currently not planned. So if you recall this was a neighborhood that wasn’t
completely in love with their park so we’re going to try to put a bow on it and then walk away
and see what the reaction is.
Scharfenberg: Okay.
Hoffman: But if you want to have a grand opening we’ll have one so that’s up.
Scharfenberg: Well I thought we’ve had them in the past.
Hoffman: We have. Based on a different scenario.
Scharfenberg: Right.
Beer: There have been some testy neighbors about.
Kelly: You should put the bow right next to that port-a-potty.
Beer: Yeah. So that’s kind of the brief snapshot of Manchester. I don’t know if you guys have
any questions I’d be more than happy to answer them.
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Hoffman: It’s going to be a beautiful site when they walk down that street and the shelter’s
going to be off to the left there where you see the path and then playground…I think a lot of the
neighbors will fall in love with it and certainly support the site. Take it from there.
Beer: So moving onto Highway 101 and the Foxwood trail. This is just a diagram that you guys
have seen a few times. More than a few times so we’re looking at making a connection from
Lyman down to the Foxwood entrance and then from the other Foxwood entrance south down to
the tunnel. So this is another site we visited for the joint commission tour. The picture on the
left is at the end of Mr. Blanski’s driveway which is his house is up to the right of those trees
there. That was a before shot and this is about the same location. Maybe a little bit further down
of what it looks like today. That was actually this morning so the grade stakes are set. Both the
walls are in there. The walls are into the north of the entrance to Foxwoods. So basically at this
point there’s final grading that has to take place. The base material for under the trail needs to go
in. The handrail for the top of both of those walls have been ordered and are just awaiting
delivery. I talked to the developer this morning and Bill Coffman and it’s now escaping me.
The contractor that’s going to pull the trail.
Hoffman: Mueller.
Beer: Mueller and Sons. So they’re going to do from down at the bottom of the tunnel there up
to the Foxwood entrance and then north all the way to Lyman so there was two different
contracts for development going on but to avoid having a cold joint in the middle of a trail, brand
new trail the cities worked it out so that they’re going to pull both sections so it’s just going to be
one seamless transition so. The block have been put in kind of over the last few weeks and once
they’re all up they need 28 days to cure before they can be stained or painted which then they’ll
match the block on the other side of 101 so that’s kind of a quick snapshot of where we’re at
with the construction. Here’s a couple more pictures if you look at the two on the left. That’s at
the bottom of the trail looking back up towards where we just were. That’s a before and at the
bottom there is another picture looking back up so you can see a pretty significant change. And
up on the top is along 101 going north towards Lyman and what it looks like today so everything
is pretty much ready. The walls are all in. We’re waiting on basically just getting rock and
letting the walls cure so.
Scharfenberg: So they’re going to be stained that brown color?
Beer: Yep.
Scharfenberg: Okay.
Beer: Yep, yep correct. You can see on the top left there is what they’ll look like.
Scharfenberg: Yep.
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Hoffman: And the top left, all that wall that you see with the fence on top of it, that’s been all
taken out. That’s where the trail now goes.
Beer: Yep so if you look down, oops sorry. Wrong way. I basically took the picture, the stop
sign is removed on the right picture and that’s just looking back up the hill so.
Echternacht: Adam on the bottom right is there going to be a fence or something between the
trail and 101?
Beer: There is not.
Hoffman: Guardrail in certain sections.
Beer: Yeah.
Hoffman: Where the trail gets too close to 101 there’s a guardrail. Other than that it will just be
that grass median.
Beer: Yep, so again if you look on the right picture at the top closest to 101, that guardrail
section was added there so there will be, probably there will be something similar in certain
areas.
Hoffman: Going north…
Beer: Going north.
Hoffman: Guardrails as the trail gets closer to 101. The trail was pinched down by that wetland
that’s in the big dip and that’s where the trail got tighter to 101 and then there’s a guardrail in
this section. So the destination to the north is the stop sign and the stop light at Lyman and 101
so that everybody can get across…and then south obviously the value of the underpass is
currently there and you want to make, utilize that and give access to that so…
Beer: So unlike the project at Manchester this project has been just plagued with horrible
weather. I think they started June 1st with their excavation and I mean what did they say? The
first 5 weeks they were working 2 to 3 days a week at best case scenario so they’re really starting
to make the turn now and over the last, when they started being able to work a full week they
were really making headway so, definitely turned the corner on both projects and just looking to
drive them home.
Scharfenberg: Any questions for Adam? Thank you Adam.
Beer: Yep.
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COMMISSION MEMBER COMMITTEE REPORTS. None.
COMMISSION MEMBER PRESENTATIONS. None.
ADMINISTRATIVE PACKET.
Scharfenberg: Anybody have any questions on the administrative packet? Any comments
Todd?
Kelly: Todd on the administrative packet the, is that land is now considered part of Shorewood.
It doesn’t exist in Chanhassen anymore. Did we transfer the land or did we?
Hoffman: The land is in Shorewood. It’s no longer in Chanhassen.
Kelly: Okay, so that’s a complete transfer. Thank you.
Scharfenberg: Alright, no other items to cover. I will entertain a motion for adjournment.
Kelly moved, Echternacht seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in favor and the
motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6 to 0. The Park and Recreation Commission
meeting was adjourned 8:10 p.m.
Submitted by Todd Hoffman
Park and Rec Director
Prepared by Nann Opheim