Agenda & PacketAGENDA
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, AUGUST 20, 2019, 7:00 PM
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 7700 MARKET BOULEVARD
A.CALL TO ORDER
B.OLD BUSINESS
C.PUBLIC HEARINGS
1.Life Time Fitness Parking Lot Addition Site Plan Review
D.NEW BUSINESS
E.APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1.Approval of Planning Commission Minutes dated July 16, 2019
F.COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS
G.ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS
1.City Council Action Update
2.Star Tribune Article
H.CORRESPONDENCE DISCUSSION
I.ADJOURNMENT
J.OPEN DISCUSSION
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PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
REPORT
Tuesday, August 20, 2019
Subject Life Time Fitness Parking Lot Addition Site Plan Review
Section PUBLIC HEARINGS Item No: C.1.
Prepared By Bob Generous, Senior Planner File No: Planning Case 201906
PROPOSED MOTION:
The Chanhassen Planning Commission recommends approval of the site plan for a 184 space parking lot expansion
subject to the Conditions of Approval in the Planning Commission staff report and adoption of the Findings of Fact
and Recommendation.
SUMMARY OF REQUEST
The applicant is requesting site plan approval for an offsite parking lot for the Life Time Fitness campus.
APPLICANT
Life Time, 2902 Corporate Place, Chanhassen
SITE INFORMATION
PRESENT ZONING: Planned Unit Development (PUD) District
LAND USE:Office Industrial
ACREAGE: 5.23 acres
DENSITY: NA
APPLICATION REGULATIONS
Chapter 20, Article 2, Division 6, Site Plan Review
Chapter 20, Article XXIII, Division 7, Design Standards for Commercial, Industrial and OfficeInstitutional
Developments
Chapter 20, Article XXII, "IOP" Industrial Office Park District
Arboretum Business Park Development Standards
BACKGROUND
On May 27, 2003, the Chanhassen City Council approved the following:
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFFREPORTTuesday, August 20, 2019SubjectLife Time Fitness Parking Lot Addition Site Plan ReviewSectionPUBLIC HEARINGS Item No: C.1.Prepared By Bob Generous, Senior Planner File No: Planning Case 201906PROPOSED MOTION:The Chanhassen Planning Commission recommends approval of the site plan for a 184 space parking lot expansionsubject to the Conditions of Approval in the Planning Commission staff report and adoption of the Findings of Factand Recommendation.SUMMARY OF REQUESTThe applicant is requesting site plan approval for an offsite parking lot for the Life Time Fitness campus.APPLICANTLife Time, 2902 Corporate Place, ChanhassenSITE INFORMATIONPRESENT ZONING: Planned Unit Development (PUD) DistrictLAND USE:Office IndustrialACREAGE: 5.23 acres DENSITY: NA APPLICATION REGULATIONSChapter 20, Article 2, Division 6, Site Plan ReviewChapter 20, Article XXIII, Division 7, Design Standards for Commercial, Industrial and OfficeInstitutionalDevelopmentsChapter 20, Article XXII, "IOP" Industrial Office Park DistrictArboretum Business Park Development StandardsBACKGROUND
On May 27, 2003, the Chanhassen City Council approved the following:
Preliminary and final plat for Arboretum Business Park 5th Addition, Sub #20035, creating two lots, as shown on
plans prepared by Schoell & Madsen, Inc., dated April 4, 2003, and
Site Plan #20034, as shown on plans prepared by Steiner Construction Services dated April 4, 2003, for a 20,000
square foot, one story office warehouse building on Lot 2, Block 1, Arboretum Business Park 5th Addition.
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission approve the site plan for an offsite parking lot for the Life Time
Fitness campus, subject to the Conditions of Approval in the attached staff report and adoption of the Findings of Fact
and Recommendation.
ATTACHMENTS:
Planning Commission Staff Report
Findings of Fact and Recommendation
Development Review Application
Parking Lot Plans
Traffic Study
Affidavit of Mailing
CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
PC DATE: August 20, 2019
CC DATE: August 26, 2019
REVIEW DEADLINE: August 8, 2019
CASE #: 2019-06
BY: RG, EH, TH, DN, JS, ET
SUMMARY OF REQUEST: The applicant is requesting site plan approval for an off-site
parking lot for the Life Time Fitness campus.
LOCATION: Lot 1, Block 1, Arboretum Business Park 5th Addition (PID 25.0780010)
2970 Water Tower Place
APPLICANT: Life Time
2902 Corporate Place
Chanhassen, MN 55317
(952) 229-7862
jschmidt@lt.life
PRESENT ZONING: Planned Unit Development
(PUD) District
2020 LAND USE PLAN: Office Industrial
ACREAGE: 5.23 acres DENSITY: NA
LEVEL OF CITY DISCRETION IN
DECISION-MAKING:
The city’s discretion in approving or denying a Site Plan is limited to whether or not the
proposed project complies with Zoning Ordinance requirements. If it meets these standards, the
city must then approve the site plan. This is a quasi-judicial decision.
Notice of this public hearing has been mailed to all property owners within 500 feet.
PROPOSAL/SUMMARY
Site plan approval for a 213 stall parking lot, adding 184 stalls to the site.
APPLICABLE REGULATIONS
Chapter 20, Article 2, Division 6, Site Plan Review
PROPOSED MOTION:
“The Chanhassen Planning Commission recommends approval of the site plan for a 184 space
parking lot expansion subject to the Conditions of Approval and adoption of the Findings of Fact
and Recommendation.”
Planning Commission
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Chapter 20, Article XXIII, Division 7, Design Standards for Commercial, Industrial and Office-
Institutional Developments
Arboretum Business Park Development Standards
BACKGROUND
On August 9, 2004, the Chanhassen City Council approved
An amendment to the Arboretum Business Park Development Design Standards, PUD #92-6,
Permitted Uses to permit health clubs on Lot 5, Block 4, Arboretum Business Park PUD Plan
(Outlot A, Arboretum Business Park 4th Addition to be platted as Lot 1, Block 1, Life Time
Fitness).
Site Plan Planning Case #04-22 for a two-story, 109,000 square-foot health club with a pool
and two three-story, 100,000 square-feet office buildings, and the temporary use of a
sales/membership trailer, plans prepared by Alliant Engineering, Inc., dated 6/18/04, revised
7/28/04.
Final plat for Life Time Fitness creating one lot and associated right-of-way for Corporate
Place (plans prepared by Schoell & Madsen, Inc.).
And denied:
The parking variance to permit two rows of parking between Office Building 1 and Highway
5.
On May 27, 2003, the Chanhassen City Council approved the following:
Preliminary and final plat for Arboretum Business Park 5th Addition, Sub #2003-5, creating
two lots, as shown on plans prepared by Schoell & Madsen, Inc., dated April 4, 2003, and
Site Plan #2003-4, as shown on plans prepared by Steiner Construction Services dated April
4, 2003, for a 20,000 square foot, one story office warehouse building on Lot 2, Block 1,
Arboretum Business Park 5th Addition.
On July 28, 1997, the City Council approved the following: The ordinance for PUD #92-6
rezoning approximately 154 acres from Agricultural Estate, A2, to Planned Unit Development,
PUD, and the PUD #92-6 granting final plat approval for Arboretum Business Park.
Planning Commission
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DISCUSSION
The applicant is requesting site plan approval for a 184 stall parking lot expansion. There are
currently 37 stalls that were built on the site with the development of the property to the east for
a total of 213 parking stalls on this parcel.
Planning Commission
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Site Constraints
Wetland Protection
The City of Chanhassen Wetland Inventory, the National Wetland Inventory, a review of historic
aerial photography and a site visit revealed that no wetland is present on the site.
Bluff Protection
There are no bluffs present on the site.
Bluff Creek Primary Zone
The property is not located within the Bluff Creek Overlay District.
Shoreland Management
The property does not lie within a shoreland overlay district.
Floodplain Overlay
This property does not lie within a floodplain.
ARCHITECTURAL COMPLIANCE
Lighting
The applicant is proposing 25-foot tall light poles around the parking lot as well. LED lighting is
proposed. All lighting shall be shielded and have 90 degree cut-off angles pursuant to City
Code.
Signage
The applicant is not proposing signage. Signage must follow the standards for the IOP district.
Monument signage may not be located within drainage and utility easements. A separate sign
permit must be submitted for each sign. Traffic control signage and directional signage may be
permitted pursuant to City Code.
Site Furnishings
The applicant is proposing constructing a sidewalk connection to the Life Time campus located
to the north of the site.
Planning Commission
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Landscaping
The parking lot construction at Water Tower Place and the expansions of the existing lots all
require appropriate landscaping as prescribed by city ordinance.
2970 Water Tower Place Required Proposed
Vehicular use landscape area 6,624 sq. ft. > 6,624 sq. ft.
Trees/parking lot 26 trees 20 trees
6 existing trees
Islands or peninsulas/parking lot 16 islands/peninsulas 16 islands/peninsulas
The applicant meets ordinance requirements.
Access, Lot Frontage and Parking Location
The applicant is proposing to construct a new parking lot with access off Water Tower Place.
The existing access to 2970 Water Tower Place will be utilized for the proposed parking lot,
along with an existing access at 2932 Water Tower Place, which is also owned by Life Time. A
traffic assessment was completed by Max Moreland, P.E., P.T.O.E. with Spack Consulting. The
assessment concluded that the intersection at Water Tower Place and Century Boulevard will
operate under an acceptable level of services based on the anticipated increase in vehicle
volumes due to the proposed development and usage. The report also concluded that the
sidewalk on the north end of the parking lot should be extended west in order to improve
pedestrian circulation. The applicant is encouraged to follow the recommendations within the
Spack traffic memorandum.
Miscellaneous
The addition of parking spaces requires additional accessible parking spaces be provided per the
Minnesota Accessibility Code. The additional accessible spaces shall be distributed to locations
at or near the accessible entrances of the four Life Time buildings noted on the plan.
While only tangentially part of the site plan review for the auxiliary parking lot at 2970 Water
Tower Place for the Life Time campus, staff has a few comments regarding the parking lot
revisions on 2900, 2901 and 2902 Corporate Place, which will be reviewed and permitted
through a separate building permit application, due to the inclusion of retaining walls to
accommodate the parking expansion.
The parking lot construction at Water Tower Place and the expansions of the existing lots all
require appropriate landscaping as prescribed by city ordinance. A breakdown of the minimum
requirements for each parcel is shown in the table below.
Planning Commission
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2900/2902 Corporate Place Required Proposed
Removal of 11 trees to create
additional parking
11 trees 11trees
The applicant is including landscape peninsulas in the new parking area. The applicant meets
ordinance requirements.
2901 Corporate Place Required Proposed
Vehicular use landscape area 2,400 sq. ft. 2400 sq. ft. on adjacent
parcel
Trees/parking lot 9 trees 0 trees in parking
14 trees in buffer
Islands or peninsulas/parking lot 5 islands/peninsulas 2 islands/peninsulas
Staff recommends that three peninsulas be added to the proposed parking area and all five
peninsulas shall be landscaped with one tree each.
The city needs to know how long the hydrants will be down on the south side of Life Time
health club during construction. They are removing two and placing them in different areas. The
spacing is still ok, but we would need a plan from them showing how long these would be out of
service.
EASEMENTS
Standard drainage and utility easements (D&Us) meeting city requirements were recorded on the
property with the plat for Arboretum Business Park 5th Addition (a 10-foot D&U on the south
and west sides, and a 5-foot D&U on the north and east sides). A temporary turnaround
easement in favor of the city was recorded at the end of Water Tower Place, formerly known as
Coulter Boulevard, over the temporary cul-de-sac in 1998. As no connection has yet been made
to State Highway No. 41 from Water Tower Place, the temporary turnaround easement (public
right-of-way) will remain as described in the recorded document A230789.
UTILITIES
Public utilities are available to the site. However, no sewer or water connections are proposed.
The storm water system will tie into the existing storm water infrastructure for the Arboretum
Business Park development.
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GRADING
The applicant has proposed grading the site to drain
from the southwest corner to the northeast corner.
Drainage will be routed to a series of catch basins
connected to a private conveyance system which
routes stormwater to an underground stormwater
filtration system. Generally speaking, the site is
relatively flat, and grading will not require
extraordinary conditions.
DRAINAGE AND EROSION CONTROL
The proposed development will exceed one (1) acre of
disturbance and will, therefore, be subject to the
General Permit Authorization to Discharge
Stormwater Associated with Construction Activity
under the National Pollution Discharge
Elimination/State Disposal System (NPDES
Construction Permit). All erosion control shall be
installed and inspected prior to initiation of site
grading activities.
The proposed redevelopment will need Riley-
Purgatory-Bluff Creek Watershed District
(RPBCWD) permits.
STORMWATER MANAGEMENT
Article VII, Chapter 19 of City Code describes the required stormwater management
development standards. Section 19-141 states that “these development standards shall be
reflected in plans prepared by developers and/or project proposers in the design and layout of site
plans, subdivisions and water management features.” These standards include abstraction of
runoff and water quality treatment resulting in the removal of 90% total suspended solids (TSS)
and 60% total phosphorous (TP). The applicant has proposed a sub-surface stormwater
management system which includes stormwater filtration prior to discharge to the existing
private conveyance system adjacent to the site. The applicant has provided a stormwater
management report for this approach with the required hydraulic and hydrologic data and
computations. Based on the information provided, this will be an acceptable method given
infiltration is not feasible due to the sandy lean clay (hydrologic soil group D) in-situ.
Planning Commission
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UTILITIES
As the proposed development is the construction of a parking lot and there are no proposed
facilities that would require sanitary or water services, no extension of public utilities or private
services are required at this time. There currently exists a 6” PVC sanitary sewer service stubbed
to the property that shall be abandoned and plugged by the developer’s contractor. Coordination
of this work shall be done through the Public Works Department (952-227-1300) 48-hours prior
to commencement of work.
Compliance Table Code Project (Life Time Parking)
Parking Setback N - 0' E - 0'
W - 10' S - 10'
N - 50' E - 0'
W - 47' S - 20'
Hard Surface Coverage 70% 53%
Lot Area 43,560 sq. ft. 116,741 sq. ft. (2.68 ac.)
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission approve the site plan for an off-site parking lot
for the Life Time Fitness campus, subject to the following conditions:
Building
1. The addition of parking spaces requires additional accessible parking spaces be provided
per the Minnesota Accessibility Code. The additional accessible spaces shall be
distributed to locations at or near the accessible entrances of the four Life Time buildings
noted on the plan.
Engineering
1. On sheet C1.00: Under the governing specification notes, reference the City of
Chanhassen’s Standard Specifications and Detail Plates.
2. On sheet C2.00: Existing utilities illustrated on Water Tower Place do not match city
records, the developer should request appropriate shape files and as-builts from the city to
accurately depict existing locations of utilities for clarity (e.g. the fire hydrant located on
the east corner of the driveway approach to 2932 Water Tower Place is not illustrated,
draintile in the area is not illustrated, etc.).
3. On sheet C3.00: Field locate the existing sanitary sewer service stub and have the plans
updated to the exact location; electrical wiring is not illustrated between lights to be
removed, show all electrical wiring and call-out removal; plans indicate the reuse and
salvage of existing gravel, illustrate location of stockpiles either on sheet C3.00 and sheet
C6.00.
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4. On sheet C5.00: From the “Utilities Symbols” the existing and proposed storm manhole
appear the same, adjust for clarity; from the “Utilities Symbols” there are multiple line
types/symbols that are unused in the plan sheets, remove any unused line types for
clarity, also ad symbol for “light grey” pavement that is hatched within majority of work
area; add ADA compliant ramps; storm structures (catch basins, storm manholes, etc.)
that have inverts should be labeled with direction of invert (N, S, E, W) connection type
(IN/OUT); illustrate locations of access pits for Stormtech system; RCP pipe from CB 6
to STMH 5 shall be 15” diameter; adjust symbol if storm infrastructure is called out as
STMH as currently all STMH’s are symbolized as proposed catch basins; show
connection to outlet control structure and reference detail and/or sheet the detail is
located on for clarity (STMH 7); reference city detail #5207 for driveway entrance off
Water Tower Place; correct name to Water Tower Place; connection to existing STMH
on southeast corner of site references “verify existing invert,” applicant shall field verify
and update plans accordingly; add note to abandon 6” PVC sanitary stub and to
coordinate with Public Works @ 952-227-1300 48-hours prior to commencement of
work.
5. On sheet C6.00: Call out for rock construction entrance should also illustrate the
entrance on plans; remove silt fence where rock construction entrance is located for
proper ingress/egress; relocate silt fence on far east side to the edge of the extents of
proposed grading (approximately 40’ to the west), and not on existing impervious
surface, adaptively manage with bio logs and other approved erosion control BMPs when
tying in new and existing bituminous; show stockpile of salvaged gravel and methods for
erosion and sediment control; remove call out for existing and proposed contour and add
line types to symbols.
6. On sheet C8.00: The planting legend indicates areas where work would include “sod-
disturbed areas”, however no areas are proposed or illustrated to be sodded, update
accordingly.
7. On sheet C10.00: Add applicable city details per updates required from Conditions 1-6,
which includes, but are not limited to, driveway details, erosion control details, and storm
pipe bedding details.
8. On sheet C13.00: Provide MPCA issued Construction Stormwater General Permit;
update SWPPP to include every requirement listed under Sections 5.2-5.26 of the NPDES
general permit.
9. On sheet E0.1: Light pole base detail does not provide dimensions of concrete base,
rebar spacing, depths, etc., update accordingly; electrical conduit/wire is difficult to read
on plans, enlarge text for clarity; provide legend; provide north arrow; Key Note 3 shall
replace the word “abandon” with “remove”; Key Note 4 indicates “conductors to be
removed”, locate conductors on plan.
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10. Provide an updated stormwater report that indicates the property owner and their contact
information along with the consultant/engineer who produced the analysis and their
contact information.
11. The stormwater report indicates that the underground system will utilize biofiltration.
Provide an update to the report that clarifies how biofiltration will be achieved.
Environmental Resources
1. All parking lot islands and peninsulas that contain a tree must have an inside width of 10
feet. Parking lot landscaped islands and peninsulas are required to have proper planting
soil and irrigation.
Planning
1. The applicant shall enter into a Site Plan Agreement and provide the security required by
it prior to receiving a building permit.
2. A separate sign permit application, review and approval shall be required prior to site
sign installation.
3. The building needs additional articulation to break up long expansions of wall area on the
north side of the building.
ATTACHMENTS
1. Application for Development Review
2. Findings of Fact and Recommendation
3. Life Time Parking Addition Plan Set Stamped “Received July 19, 2019”
4. Traffic Study
5. Public Hearing Notice and Mailing List
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES, MINNESOTA
FINDINGS OF FACT
AND RECOMMENDATION
IN RE:
Application of Life Time for Site Plan approval for a 184 parking stall expansion..
On August 20, 2019, the Chanhassen Planning Commission met at its regularly scheduled
meeting to consider the application of Life Time for site plan approval for an off-site parking lot
for the Life Time Campus. The Planning Commission conducted a public hearing on the
proposed development preceded by published and mailed notice. The Planning Commission
heard testimony from all interested persons wishing to speak and now makes the following:
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. The property is currently zoned Planned Unit Development, PUD.
2. The property is guided in the Land Use Plan for Office Industrial uses.
3. The legal description of the property is Lot 1, Block 1, Arboretum Business Park 5th
Addition.
4. Site Plan Review:
a. Is consistent with the elements and objectives of the city's development guides, including
the comprehensive plan, official road mapping, and other plans that may be adopted;
Finding: The proposed development is in compliance with the elements and objectives
of the city's development guides as well as meeting the design standards for Arboretum
Business Park.
b. Is consistent with site plan division;
Finding: The proposed development complies with the Site Plan review requirements of
the Chanhassen City Code.
c. Preserves the site in its natural state to the extent practicable by minimizing tree and soil
removal and designing grade changes to be in keeping with the general appearance of the
neighboring developed or developing areas;
Finding: The site has been significantly altered by previous grading on the parcel. The
proposed development is in keeping with the general appearance of the neighboring
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developed areas. The parking lot will provide additional parking that is needed for the
corporate campus.
d. Creates a harmonious relationship of building and open space with natural site features
and with existing and future buildings having a visual relationship to the development;
Finding: The proposed development creates a harmonious relationship of parking and
open space with existing and future buildings having a visual relationship to the
development.
e. Creates a functional and harmonious design for structures and site features, with special
attention to the following:
1) An internal sense of order for the buildings and use on the site and provision of a
desirable environment for occupants, visitors and general community;
2) The amount and location of open space and landscaping;
3) Materials, textures, colors and details of construction as an expression of the design
concept and the compatibility of the same with adjacent and neighboring structures
and uses; and
4) Vehicular and pedestrian circulation, including walkways, interior drives and parking
in terms of location and number of access points to the public streets, width of
interior drives and access points, general interior circulation, separation of pedestrian
and vehicular traffic and arrangement and amount of parking.
Finding: The proposed parking lot has good vehicle circulation provides needed
parking and creates a functional and harmonious design for structures and site
features, subject to compliance with the conditions of approval.
e. Protects adjacent and neighboring properties through reasonable provision for surface
water drainage, sound and sight buffers, preservation of views, light and air and those
aspects of design not adequately covered by other regulations which may have
substantial effects on neighboring land uses.
Finding: The proposed development protects adjacent and neighboring properties
through reasonable provision for surface water drainage, sound and sight buffers,
preservation of views, light and air and traffic circulation.
5. The planning report #2019-06 dated August 20, 2019 prepared by Robert Generous, et al, is
incorporated herein.
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RECOMMENDATION
The Planning Commission recommends that the City Council approve the Site Plan for a
Life Time parking lot subject to the recommended Conditions of Approval contained within the
staff report.
ADOPTED by the Chanhassen Planning Commission this 20th day of August 2019.
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
BY:
Steve Weick, Chairman
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT
anningdDivision —
P.O. 147,
hard CITY OF CHANHASSENMailingAddress— .O. Box 147, Chanhassen, MN 55317 11011Phone: (952) 227-1300/ Fax: (952) 227-1110
APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW
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Submittal Date: I - • ( I { PC Date. CC Date: 60-Day Review Date:
Section 1: Application Type(check all that apply)
Refer to the appropriate Application Checklist for required submittal information that must accompany this application)
Comprehensive Plan Amendment 600 Subdivision (SUB)
E Minor MUSA line for failing on-site sewers $100 Create 3 lots or less 300
E Create over 3 lots 600 + $15 per lot
Conditional Use Permit(CUP) lots)
Single-Family Residence 325 Metes & Bounds (2 lots) 300
All Others 425 Consolidate Lots 150
Interim Use Permit (IUP)
El Lot Line Adjustment 150
Final Plat 700
E In conjunction with Single-Family Residence..$325
Includes $450 escrow for attorney costs)"El AllAll Others Additional escrow may be required for other applications
through the development contract.
Rezoning (REZ)
E Planned Unit Development (PUD) 750 Vacation of Easements/Right-of-way(VAC) $300
Minor Amendment to existing PUD 100 Additional recording fees may apply)
All Others 500
Variance (VAR)200
Sign Plan Review 150
Wetland Alteration Permit (WAP)
O Site Plan Review(SPR) Single-Family Residence 150
Administrative 100 All Others 275
0 Commercial/Industrial Districts* 500
Plus $10 per 1,000 square feet of building area: Zoning Appeal 100
thousand square feet)
Include number of existing employees:
Zoning Ordinance Amendment (ZOA) 500
Include number of new employees:
Residential Districts 500 NOTE: When multiple applications are processed concurrently,
the appropriate fee shall be charged for each application.
Plus $5 per dwelling unit (units)
Notification Sign (City to install and remove) 200
O Property Owners' List within 500' (City to generate after pre-application meeting) 3 per address
10 addresses)
Escrow for Recording Documents (check all that apply) 50 per document
Conditional Use Permit Interim Use Permit 0 Site Plan Agreement
Vacation Variance Wetland Alteration Permit
Metes & Bounds Subdivision (3 docs.)Easements ( easements) Deeds
TOTAL FEE: $580.00
Section 2: Required Information
Description of Proposal: Construction of a parking lot to serve neighboring parcels
Property Address or Location: 2970 Water Tower Place
Parcel #:250780010 Legal Description: Lot 1, Block 1 Arboretum Business Park 5th Addition
Total Acreage:2.68 Wetlands Present? Yes ® No
Present Zoning: Planned Unit Development (PUD) Requested Zoning: Planned Unit Development (PUD)
Present Land Use Designation: Commercial Requested Land Use Designation: Commercial
Existing Use of Property: Alpha Field (Outdoor exercise space)
Check box if separate narrative is attached.
Section 3: Property Owner and Applicant Information
APPLICANT OTHER THAN PROPERTY OWNER: In signing this application, I, as applicant, represent to have obtained
authorization from the property owner to file this application. I agree to be bound by conditions of approval, subject only to
the right to object at the hearings on the application or during the appeal period. If this application has not been signed by
the property owner, I have attached separate documentation of full legal capacity to file the application. This application
should be processed in my name and I am the party whom the City should contact regarding any matter pertaining to this
application. I will keep myself informed of the deadlines for submission of material and the progress of this application. I
E further understand that additional fees may be charged for consulting fees, feasibility studies, etc. with an estimate prior to
any authorization to proceed with the study. I certify that the information and exhibits submitted are true and correct.
Name: Contact:
Address: Phone:
City/State/Zip: Cell:
Email: Fax:
Signature: Date:
PROPERTY OWNER: In signing this application, I, as property owner, have full legal capacity to, and hereby do,
authorize the filing of this application. I understand that conditions of approval are binding and agree to be bound by those
conditions, subject only to the right to object at the hearings or during the appeal periods. I will keep myself informed of
the deadlines for submission of material and the progress of this application. I further understand that additional fees may
be charged for consulting fees,feasibility studies, etc. with an estimate prior to any authorization to proceed with the
study. I certify that the information and exhibits submitted are true and correct.
Name: Life Time Contact: Justin Schmidt
Address: 2902 Corporate Place Phone: 952) 229-7862
City/State/Zip: Chanhassen, MN 55317 Cell:605) 728-2905
Email: JSchmidt@It.life Fax:952) 947-0797
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Signature: Date: 6/14/19
This application mint be completed in full and must be accompanied by all information and plans required by
applicable City Ordinance provisions. Before filing this application, refer to the appropriate Application Checklist
and confer with the Planning Department to determine the specific ordinance and applicable procedural
requirements and fees.
A determination of completeness of the application shall be made within 15 business days of application submittal. A i
written notice of application deficiencies shall be mailed to the applicant within 15 business days of application.
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PROJECT ENGINEER(if applicable)
Name: Elfering &Associates Contact: Kristie Elfering
Address:10062 Flanders Court NE Phone: 763) 780-0450
Blaine, MN 55449 651) 295-9876 sCity/State/Zip: Cell: I
Email: kelfering@elferingeng.com Fax:763) 780-0452
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Technical Memorandum
To: Kristie Elfering, Elfering & Associates
From: Max Moreland, P.E., P.T.O.E.
Date: July 24, 2019
Re: Traffic Assessment – Chanhassen Life Time Parking Improvements
Purpose of Report
Life Time Fitness in Chanhassen, Minnesota is proposing to add additional vehicle parking to its
campus located on the southeast corner of Arboretum Boulevard and Hazeltine Boulevard.
Some of this additional parking will be located south of the Life Time Fitness and will be
accessible off of Water Tower Place. This memorandum documents the traffic impacts due to
these parking changes at the Century Boulevard/Water Tower Place intersection.
An additional corporate office building will also be added to the s ite. This memorandum does
not address the traffic impacts of that development.
Conclusions
The traffic impacts of the proposed development were studied, and the principal findings and
recommendations are:
• The parking changes for this site will route approximately 70 additional vehicles through
the Century Boulevard/Water Tower Place intersection in the a.m. peak hour and
approximately 140 additional vehicles in the p.m. peak hour.
• Queues on eastbound Water Tower Place at the stop at Century Boulevard are
anticipated to grow but will remain at acceptable lengths.
• The sidewalk on the north side of the parking lot leading to the stairs should be extended
to the western edge of the parking lot.
• Mark a crosswalk from the landing at the top of the stairs to the sidewalk around the
main fitness building.
Proposed Parking Changes
Life Time will be adding parking to both the main parking area accessible from Corporate Place
as well as the southern parking area accessible from Water Tower Place. Focusing on this
southern area, the parking capacity will increase from the exist ing 126 spaces to 300 spaces;
an addition of 174 parking spaces. This parking area at 2932 Water Tower Place will be utilized
by the building at that location, owned by Life Time, as well as the greater Life Time campus.
A site plan is attached showing the layout of this parking area.
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Traffic Volumes
Intersection video was collected at the study intersection of Century Boulevard/Water Tower
Place under normal weekday conditions in June 2019. Using this video, a 48-hour turning
movement count was obtained at the study intersection. The data from the two days was
averaged to provide the base traffic for a “typical weekday”.
The average a.m. and p.m. peak hours were found to be from 7:30 to 8:30 a.m. and 4:30 to
5:30 p.m. The turning movement count data from the counts is contained in fifteen-minute
intervals in the Appendix.
Based on the “typical weekday” turning movement volumes, the current daily traffic volumes
on each study corridor are:
i. 5,500 vehicles per day on Century Boulevard, north of Water Tower Place
ii. 4,900 vehicles per day on Century Boulevard, south of Water Tower Place
iii. 2,200 vehicles per day on Water Tower Place
Trip Generation
To determine how many vehicles may be using the parking area off of Water Tower Place and
therefore traveling through the Century Boulevard/Water Tower Place intersection,
proportional estimates can be made based on the total traffic for the site.
With the new layout of the site, there will be 857 parking spaces available for the Life Time
Fitness building. Additional parking is available for the office spaces, but those are not factored
in for the sake of this analysis. The parking area off of Water Tower Place will include 300
spaces, which is equivalent to 35% of the total parking for the fitness center. The current fitness
center contains 604 total parking spaces with 126 spaces, or 21%, located in the Water Tower
Place lot. With an additional 14% of the total parking being moved to the Water Tower Place
lot, it can be assumed that an additional 14% of total site trips will be relocated to that lot going
through the Century Boulevard/Water Tower Place intersection. This is a conservative estimate
assuming full utilization of this parking area. If the main northern parking area is not full, less
traffic will likely divert to this southern lot putting less traffic through the study intersection.
The traffic demand for the fitness center is estimated based on the data and methods published
in the Institute of Transportation Engineers (ITE) Trip Generation Manual, 10th Edition. The ITE
Trip Generation Manual is a compilation of traffic data for various land uses from existing
developments throughout the United States. Table 1 presents the trip generation for the fitness
center based on the square footage of the fitness center building plus the square footage of
the building at 2932 Water Tower Place. The amount of new traffic added to the Century
Boulevard/Water Tower Place intersection, 14% of the total traffic, is also shown in Table 1.
Table 1 – Fitness Center Trip Generation
ITE Land
Use Code
Description
(size)
AM Peak Hour PM Peak Hour
Enter Exit Enter Exit
493 Athletic Club (157,000 feet2) 303 193 612 375
14% of Total 42 27 86 53
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A trip distribution pattern was developed for the added traffic going to and from the Water
Tower Place parking area. This pattern is based on the existing traffic volumes at the study
intersection and was found to be:
i. 65% of the generated traffic to/from the north on Century Boulevard.
ii. 35% percent of the generated traffic to/from the south on Boulevard.
Traffic forecasted to be added to the Water Tower Place lot was assigned to the area roadways
per this distribution pattern.
Intersection Vehicular Analysis
Capacity analyses are performed for the study intersection to determine if it performs poorly
during peak periods and needs improvements such as turn lanes or an upgrade in traffic
control. The existing and forecasted turning movement volumes along with the existing
intersection configuration and traffic control were used in this analysis. The calculations were
done in accordance with the Highway Capacity Manual, 6th Edition using the Vistro software
package. The full calculations for each study scenario, including Level of Service (LOS) grades,
delays and queue lengths, are included in the Appendix.
Chart 1 shows the 95th percentile queue lengths on the eastbound stop sign controlled
approach at the study intersection. Average delays are not shown for intersections with side
street stop sign control because the vast majority of vehicles going through the intersection are
on the main roadway and have zero delay, which leads to low overall average delays. At side
street stop sign controlled approaches to busy roadways, the average delay for all the vehicles
on the approach often exceeds 60 seconds. This can be the case for a few vehicles waiting at
the stop sign where improvements would not be justified for the low traffic volume. Based on
our experience, improvements are not warranted at these types of intersections until the 95 th
percentile queue at a stop sign is at least five vehicles. More often than not, mitigation can wait
until these queues are over ten vehicles.
Chart 1 – Peak Hour Queues: Century Boulevard/Water Tower Place
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As shown in Chart 1, the queues on Water Tower Place are anticipated to grow with this parking
layout change but remain within a reasonable queueing range. No intersection modifications
would be needed due to this traffic adjustment.
Site Plan Review
The concept site plan contained in the Appendix was reviewed to determine if the plan provides
appropriate circulation and minimizes conflicts. Following are key transportation elements of
the concept site plan:
• Car Circulation: Two access points will be provided on Water Tower Place. Turnaround
points are provided as needed throughout the lot.
• Truck Circulation: Trash/recycling pickup in this lot is located in the northeast corner. It is
recommended that any trash or truck deliveries/pick-ups be scheduled outside of peak
periods (7-9 A.M. and 4-6 P.M.) to minimize truck and passenger vehicle interactions.
• Pedestrian/Bicycle Circulation: With the destination of many of the vehicles parking in
this lot being located in the main northern lot, there will be a significant number of
pedestrians walking to/from the stairs on the northern portion of this lot. It is
recommended that the sidewalk leading to the stairs be extended to the west end of
the lot along the north side. Once pedestrians reach the top of the s tairs, it is
recommended that a crosswalk be marked from the landing at the top of the stairs to
the sidewalk around the main fitness building. A wayfinding sign leading visitors to the
main entrance of the Fitness building or the office buildings may be beneficial.
Appendix
A. Site Plan
B. Traffic Counts
C. Capacity Analysis Backup
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12:00 AM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
12:15 AM 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3
12:30 AM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
12:45 AM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Hourly Total 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5
1:00 AM 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
1:15 AM 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
1:30 AM 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5
1:45 AM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5
Hourly Total 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13
2:00 AM 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5
2:15 AM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
2:30 AM 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
2:45 AM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Hourly Total 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8
3:00 AM 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5
3:15 AM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
3:30 AM 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3
3:45 AM 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4
Hourly Total 0 0 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13
4:00 AM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 5
4:15 AM 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 6
4:30 AM 0 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 11
4:45 AM 0 0 4 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 20
Hourly Total 0 0 8 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 22 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 42
5:00 AM 0 0 4 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 34
5:15 AM 0 0 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 20 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 28
5:30 AM 0 0 11 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 16 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 30
5:45 AM 0 0 16 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 15 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 42
Hourly Total 0 0 34 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 18 63 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 134
6:00 AM 0 0 13 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 15 0 0 0 8 0 2 0 47
6:15 AM 0 0 21 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 9 0 0 0 3 0 8 0 47
6:30 AM 0 0 18 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 21 0 0 0 6 0 2 0 72
6:45 AM 0 0 32 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 21 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 75
Hourly Total 0 0 84 34 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 26 66 0 0 0 18 0 13 0 241
7:00 AM 0 0 37 26 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11 18 0 0 0 7 0 5 1 104
7:15 AM 0 0 33 19 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 37 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 102
7:30 AM 0 0 38 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 17 37 0 0 0 5 0 2 0 119
7:45 AM 0 0 28 12 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 18 48 0 0 0 8 0 3 0 117
Hourly Total 0 0 136 77 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 55 140 0 0 0 24 0 10 1 442
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8:00 AM 0 0 59 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 25 29 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 143
8:15 AM 0 0 31 37 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 18 37 0 0 0 3 0 5 0 131
8:30 AM 0 0 25 27 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8 26 0 0 0 5 0 2 0 93
8:45 AM 0 0 31 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 26 44 0 0 0 5 0 5 0 132
Hourly Total 0 0 146 113 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 77 136 0 0 0 14 0 13 0 499
9:00 AM 0 0 39 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 12 30 0 0 0 11 0 6 0 133
9:15 AM 0 0 18 31 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13 33 0 0 0 8 0 3 0 106
9:30 AM 0 0 33 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 21 0 0 0 7 0 4 0 89
9:45 AM 0 0 13 15 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 21 0 0 0 4 0 3 1 63
Hourly Total 0 0 103 101 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 36 105 0 0 0 30 0 16 1 391
10:00 AM 0 0 27 13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 14 0 0 0 9 0 3 0 69
10:15 AM 0 0 15 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 13 0 1 0 11 0 4 0 52
10:30 AM 0 0 25 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 25 0 3 0 12 0 5 2 83
10:45 AM 0 0 28 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 42 0 0 0 9 0 2 0 104
Hourly Total 0 0 95 45 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 19 94 0 4 0 41 0 14 2 308
11:00 AM 0 0 38 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 39 0 2 0 19 0 5 2 116
11:15 AM 0 0 33 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 56 0 0 0 16 0 9 0 131
11:30 AM 0 0 48 13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 57 0 3 0 14 0 9 0 151
11:45 AM 0 0 37 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 47 0 5 0 22 0 13 3 137
Hourly Total 0 0 156 47 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 26 199 0 10 0 71 0 36 5 535
12:00 PM 0 0 58 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 58 0 2 0 26 0 13 0 168
12:15 PM 0 0 58 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 43 0 2 0 19 0 7 2 152
12:30 PM 0 0 54 13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 32 0 2 0 10 0 9 1 125
12:45 PM 0 0 37 26 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 14 35 0 1 0 11 0 5 0 128
Hourly Total 0 0 207 63 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 35 168 0 7 0 66 0 34 3 573
1:00 PM 0 0 49 18 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 38 0 3 0 17 0 7 0 131
1:15 PM 0 0 36 14 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 5 20 0 4 0 14 0 3 0 92
1:30 PM 0 0 27 19 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 30 0 0 0 18 0 5 0 106
1:45 PM 0 0 18 13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 25 0 2 0 14 0 6 0 79
Hourly Total 0 0 130 64 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 17 113 0 9 0 63 0 21 0 408
2:00 PM 0 0 21 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 22 0 0 0 18 0 2 0 71
2:15 PM 0 0 48 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 25 0 2 0 6 0 4 0 96
2:30 PM 0 0 21 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 25 0 5 0 18 0 9 1 82
2:45 PM 0 0 27 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 34 0 3 0 15 0 6 1 97
Hourly Total 0 0 117 36 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 106 0 10 0 57 0 21 2 346
3:00 PM 0 0 35 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 51 0 0 0 20 0 10 0 127
3:15 PM 0 0 34 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 26 0 0 0 16 0 9 2 96
3:30 PM 0 0 34 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 39 0 0 0 10 0 15 1 109
3:45 PM 0 0 43 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 25 0 0 0 16 0 14 1 107
Hourly Total 0 0 146 22 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 20 141 0 0 0 62 0 48 4 439
TOTALCentury Blvd -
Century Blvd & Water Tower Pl
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4:00 PM 0 0 49 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 45 0 2 0 31 0 16 0 152
4:15 PM 0 0 43 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 50 0 1 0 25 0 17 0 143
4:30 PM 0 0 44 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 76 0 2 0 36 0 21 0 186
4:45 PM 0 0 59 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 59 0 1 0 27 0 17 0 173
Hourly Total 0 0 195 23 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 16 230 0 6 0 119 0 71 0 654
5:00 PM 0 0 82 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 67 0 0 0 38 0 24 0 217
5:15 PM 0 0 79 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 39 0 2 0 18 0 8 2 147
5:30 PM 0 0 45 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 38 0 0 0 20 0 7 0 114
5:45 PM 0 0 37 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 31 0 0 0 8 0 5 0 85
Hourly Total 0 0 243 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 175 0 2 0 84 0 44 2 563
6:00 PM 0 0 57 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 26 0 0 0 13 0 5 1 103
6:15 PM 0 0 20 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 27 0 1 0 8 0 3 0 63
6:30 PM 0 0 32 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 13 0 1 0 5 0 3 0 63
6:45 PM 0 0 21 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 10 0 0 0 8 0 7 0 51
Hourly Total 0 0 130 13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 76 0 2 0 34 0 18 1 280
7:00 PM 0 0 24 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 20 0 0 0 6 0 6 0 58
7:15 PM 0 0 18 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 18 0 0 0 3 0 1 1 43
7:30 PM 0 0 16 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 29
7:45 PM 0 0 15 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 12 0 0 0 2 0 3 0 33
Hourly Total 0 0 73 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 57 0 0 0 11 0 14 1 163
8:00 PM 0 0 17 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 21 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 42
8:15 PM 0 0 23 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 32
8:30 PM 0 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 32
8:45 PM 0 0 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 26
Hourly Total 0 0 79 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 45 0 0 0 5 0 1 0 132
9:00 PM 0 0 10 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 19
9:15 PM 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 13
9:30 PM 0 0 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 16
9:45 PM 0 0 5 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 16
Hourly Total 0 0 27 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 33 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 64
10:00 PM 0 0 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13
10:15 PM 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6
10:30 PM 0 0 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13
10:45 PM 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
Hourly Total 0 0 19 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 34
11:00 PM 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6
11:15 PM 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6
11:30 PM 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6
11:45 PM 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4
Hourly Total 0 0 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 22
DAILY TOTAL 0 0 2157 676 1 0 0 0 0 3 0 380 2015 0 50 0 704 0 377 22 6309
Cars 0 0 2114 656 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 366 1986 0 50 0 685 0 361 18 6168
Heavy Vehicles 0 0 43 20 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 14 29 0 0 0 19 0 16 4 141
Heavy Vehicle %0.00%0.00%1.99%2.96%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%100.00%0.00%3.68%1.44%0.00%0.00%0.00%2.70%0.00%4.24%18.18%2.23%
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11:00 AM 0 0 38 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 39 0 2 0 19 0 5 2 116
11:15 AM 0 0 33 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 56 0 0 0 16 0 9 0 131
11:30 AM 0 0 48 13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 57 0 3 0 14 0 9 0 151
11:45 AM 0 0 37 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 47 0 5 0 22 0 13 3 137
Peak Hour Total 0 0 156 47 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 26 199 0 10 0 71 0 36 5 535
PHF 0.000 0.000 0.813 0.904 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.650 0.873 0.000 0.500 0.000 0.807 0.000 0.692 0.417 0.886
Heavy Vehicle %0.00%0.00%3.21%6.38%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%7.69%2.51%0.00%0.00%0.00%5.63%0.00%8.33%0.00%4.11%
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4:30 PM 0 0 44 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 76 0 2 0 36 0 21 0 186
4:45 PM 0 0 59 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 59 0 1 0 27 0 17 0 173
5:00 PM 0 0 82 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 67 0 0 0 38 0 24 0 217
5:15 PM 0 0 79 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 39 0 2 0 18 0 8 2 147
Peak Hour Total 0 0 264 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8 241 0 5 0 119 0 70 2 723
PHF 0.000 0.000 0.805 0.750 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.500 0.793 0.000 0.625 0.000 0.783 0.000 0.729 0.250 0.833
Heavy Vehicle %0.00%0.00%1.14%4.76%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.41%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.69%
2833 2719
Cars 656 2114 0 0 1
Heavy 20 43 0 0 0
Total 676 2157 0 0 1
Cars Heavy Total Cars Heavy Total
18 4 22 0 0 0
1081 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
685 19 704 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
1056 361 16 377 0 3 3 0
Cars 50 0 366 1986 0
Heavy 0 0 14 29 0
Total 50 0 380 2015 0
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EastboundWestboundSouthbound
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Vehicles Exiting
Intersection
Vehicles Entering
Intersection
Vehicles Exiting
Intersection
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Intersection
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4929Total Vehicles On Leg
Total Vehicles On Leg 5552
Total
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12:00 AM 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4
12:15 AM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
12:30 AM 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
12:45 AM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1
Hourly Total 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 7
1:00 AM 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3
1:15 AM 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
1:30 AM 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
1:45 AM 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
Hourly Total 0 0 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8
2:00 AM 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4
2:15 AM 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
2:30 AM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
2:45 AM 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
Hourly Total 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10
3:00 AM 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4
3:15 AM 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3
3:30 AM 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4
3:45 AM 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6
Hourly Total 0 0 9 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 17
4:00 AM 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 5
4:15 AM 0 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 9
4:30 AM 0 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11
4:45 AM 0 0 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 23
Hourly Total 0 0 8 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 28 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 48
5:00 AM 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 21
5:15 AM 0 0 12 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 22 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 41
5:30 AM 0 0 7 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 27
5:45 AM 0 0 16 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 22 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 55
Hourly Total 0 0 38 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 18 74 0 0 0 1 0 3 0 144
6:00 AM 0 0 20 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 8 0 0 0 1 0 3 0 41
6:15 AM 0 0 23 13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 8 0 0 0 4 0 6 0 58
6:30 AM 0 0 26 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11 15 0 0 0 3 0 1 1 63
6:45 AM 0 0 38 18 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 12 18 0 0 0 3 0 2 0 91
Hourly Total 0 0 107 45 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 29 49 0 0 0 11 0 12 1 253
7:00 AM 0 0 24 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 16 24 0 0 0 7 0 4 0 87
7:15 AM 0 0 33 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8 27 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 95
7:30 AM 0 0 37 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 12 36 0 0 0 8 0 1 0 111
7:45 AM 0 0 43 32 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 20 50 0 0 0 14 0 7 0 166
Hourly Total 0 0 137 85 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 56 137 0 0 0 30 0 14 0 459
-Century Blvd Water Tower Pl
Century Blvd & Water Tower Pl
Chanhassen MN
Wednesday, June 19, 2019
Southbound Westbound Northbound Eastbound
TOTALCentury Blvd
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Time U Turns Left Turns Straight
Through
Right
Turns
Peds/
Bicycles U Turns Left Turns Straight
Through
Right
Turns
Peds/
Bicycles U Turns Left Turns Straight
Through
Right
Turns
Peds/
Bicycles U Turns Left Turns Straight
Through
Right
Turns
Peds/
Bicycles
8:00 AM 0 0 34 37 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 14 42 0 0 0 9 0 9 0 145
8:15 AM 0 0 32 26 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11 30 0 0 0 8 0 3 0 110
8:30 AM 0 0 24 44 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 19 41 0 0 0 3 0 3 0 134
8:45 AM 0 0 37 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 19 48 0 0 0 6 0 3 0 148
Hourly Total 0 0 127 142 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 63 161 0 0 0 26 0 18 0 537
9:00 AM 0 0 30 39 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 23 36 0 0 0 10 0 12 0 150
9:15 AM 0 0 24 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8 38 0 0 0 6 0 6 0 106
9:30 AM 0 0 27 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 25 0 0 0 13 0 1 0 86
9:45 AM 0 0 21 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 25 0 0 0 5 0 5 1 76
Hourly Total 0 0 102 85 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 49 124 0 0 0 34 0 24 1 418
10:00 AM 0 0 38 8 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 7 15 0 0 0 2 0 5 0 75
10:15 AM 0 0 24 18 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 33 0 2 0 14 0 8 2 103
10:30 AM 0 0 24 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 24 0 0 0 10 0 10 16 81
10:45 AM 0 0 21 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 38 0 5 0 11 0 8 0 92
Hourly Total 0 0 107 44 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 22 110 0 7 0 37 0 31 18 351
11:00 AM 0 0 41 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 36 0 2 0 16 0 2 0 101
11:15 AM 0 0 37 16 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 6 36 0 0 0 15 0 5 0 115
11:30 AM 0 0 40 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 39 0 3 0 23 0 17 1 131
11:45 AM 0 0 53 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 54 0 3 0 11 0 12 0 151
Hourly Total 0 0 171 40 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 21 165 0 8 0 65 0 36 1 498
12:00 PM 0 0 49 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 7 57 0 4 0 20 0 6 0 150
12:15 PM 0 0 45 18 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 12 33 0 2 0 20 0 9 1 137
12:30 PM 0 0 50 12 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 35 0 1 0 16 0 3 0 125
12:45 PM 0 0 38 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 15 42 0 1 0 13 0 9 0 142
Hourly Total 0 0 182 65 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 43 167 0 8 0 69 0 27 1 554
1:00 PM 0 0 44 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 30 0 3 0 16 0 5 0 116
1:15 PM 0 0 47 19 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 34 0 2 0 10 0 4 1 120
1:30 PM 0 0 27 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 29 0 0 0 13 0 9 0 97
1:45 PM 0 0 29 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8 30 0 3 0 13 0 3 0 99
Hourly Total 0 0 147 69 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 20 123 0 8 0 52 0 21 1 432
2:00 PM 0 0 39 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 20 0 2 0 10 0 10 0 91
2:15 PM 0 0 38 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 25 0 4 0 17 0 5 2 98
2:30 PM 0 0 32 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 31 0 0 0 16 0 13 0 107
2:45 PM 0 0 28 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 20 0 1 0 16 0 12 0 83
Hourly Total 0 0 137 27 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 20 96 0 7 0 59 0 40 2 379
3:00 PM 0 0 30 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 50 0 1 0 16 0 9 0 123
3:15 PM 0 0 33 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 31 0 0 0 18 0 11 0 104
3:30 PM 0 0 20 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 41 0 0 0 17 0 13 0 102
3:45 PM 0 0 41 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 28 0 0 0 15 0 9 0 107
Hourly Total 0 0 124 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 26 150 0 1 0 66 0 42 0 436
Wednesday, June 19, 2019
Southbound Westbound Northbound Eastbound
TOTALCentury Blvd -Century Blvd Water Tower Pl
Century Blvd & Water Tower Pl
Chanhassen MN
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Time U Turns Left Turns Straight
Through
Right
Turns
Peds/
Bicycles U Turns Left Turns Straight
Through
Right
Turns
Peds/
Bicycles U Turns Left Turns Straight
Through
Right
Turns
Peds/
Bicycles U Turns Left Turns Straight
Through
Right
Turns
Peds/
Bicycles
4:00 PM 0 0 57 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 48 0 3 0 21 0 20 1 155
4:15 PM 0 0 34 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 47 0 1 0 25 0 18 0 132
4:30 PM 0 0 55 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 65 0 0 0 36 0 17 0 182
4:45 PM 0 0 31 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 48 0 0 0 23 0 16 1 134
Hourly Total 0 0 177 27 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 15 208 0 4 0 105 0 71 2 603
5:00 PM 0 0 58 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 53 0 0 0 38 0 17 0 172
5:15 PM 0 0 43 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 69 0 2 0 28 0 9 1 157
5:30 PM 0 0 44 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 55 0 0 0 9 0 3 0 114
5:45 PM 0 0 34 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 39 0 0 0 10 0 9 0 100
Hourly Total 0 0 179 13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 12 216 0 2 0 85 0 38 1 543
6:00 PM 0 0 47 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 29 0 1 0 13 0 8 0 103
6:15 PM 0 0 22 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 24 0 1 0 4 0 12 0 64
6:30 PM 0 0 19 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 15 0 1 0 9 0 5 1 55
6:45 PM 0 0 26 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 16 0 0 0 6 0 6 0 58
Hourly Total 0 0 114 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 84 0 3 0 32 0 31 1 280
7:00 PM 0 0 20 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 18 0 0 0 8 0 5 0 52
7:15 PM 0 0 17 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 10 0 0 0 2 0 3 0 35
7:30 PM 0 0 18 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 0 0 0 7 0 0 0 35
7:45 PM 0 0 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 20 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 39
Hourly Total 0 0 72 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 57 0 0 0 17 0 10 0 161
8:00 PM 0 0 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 19 0 0 0 3 0 1 0 37
8:15 PM 0 0 23 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 32
8:30 PM 0 0 9 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 8 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 20
8:45 PM 0 0 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 17
Hourly Total 0 0 54 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 40 0 0 0 6 0 2 1 106
9:00 PM 0 0 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 18
9:15 PM 0 0 13 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 24
9:30 PM 0 0 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 14
9:45 PM 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 9
Hourly Total 0 0 33 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 27 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 65
10:00 PM 0 0 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 15
10:15 PM 0 0 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 12
10:30 PM 0 0 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 14
10:45 PM 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9
Hourly Total 0 0 29 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 18 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 50
11:00 PM 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6
11:15 PM 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6
11:30 PM 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4
11:45 PM 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 3
Hourly Total 0 0 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 19
DAILY TOTAL 0 0 2076 708 2 0 0 0 0 5 1 409 2060 0 48 0 702 0 422 30 6378
Cars 0 0 2036 686 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 398 2019 0 48 0 682 0 407 23 6229
Heavy Vehicles 0 0 40 22 0 0 0 0 0 5 0 11 41 0 0 0 20 0 15 7 149
Heavy Vehicle %0.00%0.00%1.93%3.11%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%100.00%0.00%2.69%1.99%0.00%0.00%0.00%2.85%0.00%3.55%23.33%2.34%
Century Blvd & Water Tower Pl
Chanhassen MN
Wednesday, June 19, 2019
Southbound Westbound Northbound Eastbound
TOTALCentury Blvd -Century Blvd Water Tower Pl
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Time U Turns Left Turns Straight
Through
Right
Turns
Peds/
Bicycles U Turns Left Turns Straight
Through
Right
Turns
Peds/
Bicycles U Turns Left Turns Straight
Through
Right
Turns
Peds/
Bicycles U Turns Left Turns Straight
Through
Right
Turns
Peds/
Bicycles
7:45 AM 0 0 43 32 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 20 50 0 0 0 14 0 7 0 166
8:00 AM 0 0 34 37 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 14 42 0 0 0 9 0 9 0 145
8:15 AM 0 0 32 26 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11 30 0 0 0 8 0 3 0 110
8:30 AM 0 0 24 44 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 19 41 0 0 0 3 0 3 0 134
Peak Hour Total 0 0 133 139 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 64 163 0 0 0 34 0 22 0 555
PHF 0.000 0.000 0.773 0.790 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.250 0.000 0.800 0.815 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.607 0.000 0.611 0.000 0.836
Heavy Vehicle %0.00%0.00%0.75%2.88%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%100.00%0.00%0.00%1.84%0.00%0.00%0.00%8.82%0.00%4.55%0.00%2.16%
Time U Turns Left Turns Straight
Through
Right
Turns
Peds/
Bicycles U Turns Left Turns Straight
Through
Right
Turns
Peds/
Bicycles U Turns Left Turns Straight
Through
Right
Turns
Peds/
Bicycles U Turns Left Turns Straight
Through
Right
Turns
Peds/
Bicycles
4:30 PM 0 0 55 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 65 0 0 0 36 0 17 0 182
4:45 PM 0 0 31 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 48 0 0 0 23 0 16 1 134
5:00 PM 0 0 58 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 53 0 0 0 38 0 17 0 172
5:15 PM 0 0 43 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 69 0 2 0 28 0 9 1 157
Peak Hour Total 0 0 187 24 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 15 235 0 2 0 125 0 59 2 645
PHF 0.000 0.000 0.806 0.857 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.417 0.851 0.000 0.250 0.000 0.822 0.000 0.868 0.500 0.886
Heavy Vehicle %0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%6.67%0.43%0.00%0.00%0.00%1.60%0.00%0.00%50.00%0.62%
2784 2762
Cars 686 2036 0 0 2
Heavy 22 40 0 0 0
Total 708 2076 0 0 2
Cars Heavy Total Cars Heavy Total
23 7 30 0 0 0
1124 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
682 20 702 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
1117 407 15 422 0 5 5 0
Cars 48 1 398 2019 0
Heavy 0 0 11 41 0
Total 48 1 409 2060 0
2470 2499
Century Blvd & Water Tower Pl
Chanhassen MN
Wednesday, June 19, 2019
AM Peak Hour
Southbound Westbound Northbound Eastbound VEHICLE
TOTAL
Total
Vehicles
on Leg
Vehicles
Entering
Intersection
EastboundDaily Volumes
PM Peak Hour
Southbound Westbound Northbound Eastbound VEHICLE
TOTAL
Total
Vehicles
on Leg
2241
Vehicles
Exiting
Intersection
Vehicles
Exiting
Intersection
0
Total Vehicles On Leg 5546
Vehicles Entering
Intersection
Vehicles Exiting
Intersection
Southbound
Northbound
Vehicles Entering
Intersection
Vehicles Exiting
Intersection
Total Vehicles On Leg 4969 WestboundVehicles
Entering
Intersection
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Intersection Analysis Summary
7/23/2019Report File: C:\...\1 - AM Existing.pdf
Scenario 1 AM ExistingVistro File: C:\...\LT Chanhassen.vistro
Century Blvd & Water Tower Pl
V/C, Delay, LOS: For two-way stop, these values are taken from the movement with the worst (highest) delay value. For
all other control types, they are taken for the whole intersection.
B13.70.090EB LeftHCM 6th
EditionTwo-way stopCentury Boulevard & Water
Tower Place1
LOSDelay (s/veh)V/CWorst MvmtMethodControl TypeIntersection NameID
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0.090Volume to Capacity (v/c):
BLevel Of Service:
13.7Delay (sec / veh):
15 minutesAnalysis Period:
HCM 6th EditionAnalysis Method:
Two-way stopControl Type:
Intersection 1: Century Boulevard & Water Tower Place
Intersection Level Of Service Report
YesNoYesCrosswalk
0.000.000.00Grade [%]
30.0030.0030.00Speed [mph]
100.00100.00100.00100.00100.00100.00Pocket Length [ft]
000000No. of Lanes in Pocket
12.0012.0012.0012.0012.0012.00Lane Width [ft]
RightLeftRightThruThruLeftTurning Movement
Lane Configuration
EastboundSouthboundNorthboundApproach
Water Tower PlaceCentury BoulevardCentury BoulevardName
Intersection Setup
505Pedestrian Volume [ped/h]
244113018719083Total Analysis Volume [veh/h]
61032474721Total 15-Minute Volume [veh/h]
1.00001.00001.00001.00001.00001.0000Other Adjustment Factor
0.68000.68000.80900.80900.81600.8160Peak Hour Factor
162810515115568Total Hourly Volume [veh/h]
000000Other Volume [veh/h]
000000Existing Site Adjustment Volume [veh/h]
000000Pass-by Trips [veh/h]
000000Diverted Trips [veh/h]
000000Site-Generated Trips [veh/h]
000000In-Process Volume [veh/h]
1.00001.00001.00001.00001.00001.0000Growth Factor
2.002.002.002.002.002.00Heavy Vehicles Percentage [%]
1.00001.00001.00001.00001.00001.0000Base Volume Adjustment Factor
162810515115568Base Volume Input [veh/h]
Water Tower PlaceCentury BoulevardCentury BoulevardName
Volumes
Scenario 1: 1 AM Existing
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BIntersection LOS
2.26d_I, Intersection Delay [s/veh]
BAAApproach LOS
12.430.002.47d_A, Approach Delay [s/veh]
9.999.990.000.005.415.4195th-Percentile Queue Length [ft/ln]
0.400.400.000.000.220.2295th-Percentile Queue Length [veh/ln]
BBAAAAMovement LOS
10.1813.740.000.000.008.13d_M, Delay for Movement [s/veh]
0.030.090.000.000.000.07V/C, Movement V/C Ratio
Movement, Approach, & Intersection Results
000Number of Storage Spaces in Median
NoTwo-Stage Gap Acceptance
000Storage Area [veh]
NoFlared Lane
StopFreeFreePriority Scheme
Intersection Settings
Scenario 1: 1 AM Existing
Century Blvd & Water Tower Pl
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Appendix C - Capacity Analysis Backup
Lane Configuration and Traffic Control
Scenario 1: 1 AM Existing
Century Blvd & Water Tower Pl
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Appendix C - Capacity Analysis Backup
Traffic Volume - Future Total Volume
Scenario 1: 1 AM Existing
Century Blvd & Water Tower Pl
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Appendix C - Capacity Analysis Backup
Intersection Analysis Summary
7/23/2019Report File: C:\...\2 - PM Existing.pdf
Scenario 2 PM ExistingVistro File: C:\...\LT Chanhassen.vistro
Century Blvd & Water Tower Pl
V/C, Delay, LOS: For two-way stop, these values are taken from the movement with the worst (highest) delay value. For
all other control types, they are taken for the whole intersection.
C17.80.328EB LeftHCM 6th
EditionTwo-way stopCentury Boulevard & Water
Tower Place1
LOSDelay (s/veh)V/CWorst MvmtMethodControl TypeIntersection NameID
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0.328Volume to Capacity (v/c):
CLevel Of Service:
17.8Delay (sec / veh):
15 minutesAnalysis Period:
HCM 6th EditionAnalysis Method:
Two-way stopControl Type:
Intersection 1: Century Boulevard & Water Tower Place
Intersection Level Of Service Report
YesNoYesCrosswalk
0.000.000.00Grade [%]
30.0030.0030.00Speed [mph]
100.00100.00100.00100.00100.00100.00Pocket Length [ft]
000000No. of Lanes in Pocket
12.0012.0012.0012.0012.0012.00Lane Width [ft]
RightLeftRightThruThruLeftTurning Movement
Lane Configuration
EastboundSouthboundNorthboundApproach
Water Tower PlaceCentury BoulevardCentury BoulevardName
Intersection Setup
505Pedestrian Volume [ped/h]
821532827227714Total Analysis Volume [veh/h]
2038768693Total 15-Minute Volume [veh/h]
1.00001.00001.00001.00001.00001.0000Other Adjustment Factor
0.79700.79700.83200.83200.86000.8600Peak Hour Factor
651222322623812Total Hourly Volume [veh/h]
000000Other Volume [veh/h]
000000Existing Site Adjustment Volume [veh/h]
000000Pass-by Trips [veh/h]
000000Diverted Trips [veh/h]
000000Site-Generated Trips [veh/h]
000000In-Process Volume [veh/h]
1.00001.00001.00001.00001.00001.0000Growth Factor
2.002.002.002.002.002.00Heavy Vehicles Percentage [%]
1.00001.00001.00001.00001.00001.0000Base Volume Adjustment Factor
651222322623812Base Volume Input [veh/h]
Water Tower PlaceCentury BoulevardCentury BoulevardName
Volumes
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CIntersection LOS
4.91d_I, Intersection Delay [s/veh]
CAAApproach LOS
16.800.000.38d_A, Approach Delay [s/veh]
55.0655.060.000.000.850.8595th-Percentile Queue Length [ft/ln]
2.202.200.000.000.030.0395th-Percentile Queue Length [veh/ln]
BCAAAAMovement LOS
14.9017.810.000.000.007.91d_M, Delay for Movement [s/veh]
0.110.330.000.000.000.01V/C, Movement V/C Ratio
Movement, Approach, & Intersection Results
000Number of Storage Spaces in Median
NoTwo-Stage Gap Acceptance
000Storage Area [veh]
NoFlared Lane
StopFreeFreePriority Scheme
Intersection Settings
Scenario 2: 2 PM Existing
Century Blvd & Water Tower Pl
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Appendix C - Capacity Analysis Backup
Lane Configuration and Traffic Control
Scenario 2: 2 PM Existing
Century Blvd & Water Tower Pl
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Appendix C - Capacity Analysis Backup
Traffic Volume - Future Total Volume
Scenario 2: 2 PM Existing
Century Blvd & Water Tower Pl
Version 7.00-05
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Appendix C - Capacity Analysis Backup
Intersection Analysis Summary
7/23/2019Report File: C:\...\3 - AM Build.pdf
Scenario 3 AM BuildVistro File: C:\...\LT Chanhassen.vistro
Century Blvd & Water Tower Pl
V/C, Delay, LOS: For two-way stop, these values are taken from the movement with the worst (highest) delay value. For
all other control types, they are taken for the whole intersection.
C15.20.160EB LeftHCM 6th
EditionTwo-way stopCentury Boulevard & Water
Tower Place1
LOSDelay (s/veh)V/CWorst MvmtMethodControl TypeIntersection NameID
Scenario 3: 3 AM Build
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0.160Volume to Capacity (v/c):
CLevel Of Service:
15.2Delay (sec / veh):
15 minutesAnalysis Period:
HCM 6th EditionAnalysis Method:
Two-way stopControl Type:
Intersection 1: Century Boulevard & Water Tower Place
Intersection Level Of Service Report
YesNoYesCrosswalk
0.000.000.00Grade [%]
30.0030.0030.00Speed [mph]
100.00100.00100.00100.00100.00100.00Pocket Length [ft]
000000No. of Lanes in Pocket
12.0012.0012.0012.0012.0012.00Lane Width [ft]
RightLeftRightThruThruLeftTurning Movement
Lane Configuration
EastboundSouthboundNorthboundApproach
Water Tower PlaceCentury BoulevardCentury BoulevardName
Intersection Setup
505Pedestrian Volume [ped/h]
3768163187190102Total Analysis Volume [veh/h]
91741474725Total 15-Minute Volume [veh/h]
1.00001.00001.00001.00001.00001.0000Other Adjustment Factor
0.68000.68000.80900.80900.81600.8160Peak Hour Factor
254613215115583Total Hourly Volume [veh/h]
000000Other Volume [veh/h]
000000Existing Site Adjustment Volume [veh/h]
000000Pass-by Trips [veh/h]
000000Diverted Trips [veh/h]
918270015Site-Generated Trips [veh/h]
000000In-Process Volume [veh/h]
1.00001.00001.00001.00001.00001.0000Growth Factor
2.002.002.002.002.002.00Heavy Vehicles Percentage [%]
1.00001.00001.00001.00001.00001.0000Base Volume Adjustment Factor
162810515115568Base Volume Input [veh/h]
Water Tower PlaceCentury BoulevardCentury BoulevardName
Volumes
Scenario 3: 3 AM Build
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CIntersection LOS
3.07d_I, Intersection Delay [s/veh]
BAAApproach LOS
13.780.002.89d_A, Approach Delay [s/veh]
18.9418.940.000.006.976.9795th-Percentile Queue Length [ft/ln]
0.760.760.000.000.280.2895th-Percentile Queue Length [veh/ln]
BCAAAAMovement LOS
11.0915.240.000.000.008.28d_M, Delay for Movement [s/veh]
0.040.160.000.000.000.09V/C, Movement V/C Ratio
Movement, Approach, & Intersection Results
000Number of Storage Spaces in Median
NoTwo-Stage Gap Acceptance
000Storage Area [veh]
NoFlared Lane
StopFreeFreePriority Scheme
Intersection Settings
Scenario 3: 3 AM Build
Century Blvd & Water Tower Pl
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Appendix C - Capacity Analysis Backup
Lane Configuration and Traffic Control
Scenario 3: 3 AM Build
Century Blvd & Water Tower Pl
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Appendix C - Capacity Analysis Backup
Traffic Volume - Future Total Volume
Scenario 3: 3 AM Build
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I, Kim T. Meuwissen, being first duly swom, on oath deposes that she is and was on
August 8,2019, the duly qualified and acting Deputy Clerk ofthe City of Chanhassen,
Minnesota; that on said date she caused to be mailed a copy of the attached notice of Public
Hearing for Consideration of a Site Plan Review Application for Construction of a Parking
Lot to Serve Neighboring Facilities at 2970 Water Tower Place, Planning Case No. 2019-06
to the persons named on attached Exhibit "A", by enclosing a copy of said notice in an envelope
addressed to such owner, and depositing the envelopes addressed to all such owners in the
United States mail with postage fully prepaid thereon; that the names and addresses of such
owners were those appearing as such by the records ofthe County Treasurer, Carver County,
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REPORT
Tuesday, August 20, 2019
Subject Approval of Planning Commission Minutes dated July 16, 2019
Section APPROVAL OF MINUTES Item No: E.1.
Prepared By Nann Opheim, City Recorder File No:
PROPOSED MOTION:
The Chanhassen Planning Commission recommends approval of the minutes from their July 16, 2019 Planning
Commission meeting.
ATTACHMENTS:
Planning Commission Summary Minutes dated July 16, 2019
Planning Commission Verbatim Minutes dated July 16, 2019
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
SUMMARY MINUTES
JULY 16, 2019
Chairman Weick called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Steve Weick, Mark Randall, Michael McGonagill, Doug Reeder, and
Laura Skistad
MEMBERS ABSENT: Mark Undestad and John Tietz
STAFF PRESENT: Kate Aanenson, Community Development Director; Sharmeen Al-Jaff,
Senior Planner; MacKenzie Walters, Associated Planner; Jason Wedel, City Engineer/Public
Works Director; and Chief Don Johnson, Fire Chief
PUBLIC HEARING:
CONSIDER A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND SITE PLAN REVIEW
APPLICATION FOR AN XCEL ENERGY METER READER POLE LOCATED AT
2150 LYMAN BOULEVARD.
Sharmeen Al-Jaff presented the staff report on this item. Chris Rogers, Principal Land Rights
Agent with Xcel Energy and Chris Sarles, explained the technical aspects of the need for this
pole and associated equipment. Commissioner McGonagill asked for clarification on how the
system will operate. Commissioner Skistad asked about costs to customers and radiation output.
Chairman Weick opened the public hearing. No one spoke and the public hearing was closed.
McGonagill moved, Randall seconded that the Chanhassen Planning Commission
recommends the City Council approve a Conditional Use Permit and Site Plan to allow a
145 foot pole with a 5 foot lightning rod for the Utility Meter Reader subject to the
following conditions of approval and adoption of the attached Findings of Fact and
Recommendation:
Site Plan Review
The Planning Commission recommends the City Council approve Site Plan Permit -
Planning Case 2019-07 for a 145-foot pole with a 5-foot lightning rod as shown in
Attachment 4, and adopts the attached Findings of Fact and Recommendation, subject to the
following conditions:
1. A building permit is required to construct (erect) the (pole).
2. The pole plans must be signed by a professional engineer licensed in the State of Minnesota.
3. The contractor shall contact the Inspections Division as early as possible to discuss plan
review and permit procedures.
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4. The applicant shall enter into a site plan agreement.
Conditional Use Permit
The Planning Commission recommends the City Council approve Conditional Use Permit -
Planning Case 2019-07 for a 145-foot pole with a 5-foot lightning rod as shown in
Attachment 4, and adopts the attached Findings of Fact and Recommendation, subject to the
following conditions:
1. The pole shall comply with the requirements in ARTICLE XXX. TOWERS AND
ANTENNAS of the Zoning Ordinance.
2. The pole shall not be illuminated by artificial means and shall not display strobe lights unless
such lighting is specifically required by the Federal Aviation Administration or other federal
or state authority for a particular tower.
3. No signage, advertising or identification of any kind intended to be visible from the ground
or other structures is permitted, except applicable warning and equipment information
signage required by the manufacturer or by federal, state, or local authorities.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
PUBLIC HEARING:
AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 18, SUBDIVISIONS: DESIGN STANDARDS
(STREETS AND FIRE APPARATUS ACCESS ROADS).
MacKenzie Walters and Kate Aanenson presented the staff report on this item. Chief Don
Johnson discussed the fire department’s viewpoint on the need for these design standard changes.
Jason Wedel provided information from a public works and maintenance point of view.
Commissioner McGonagill discussed his concern with the word temporary and his belief that the
amendment needs to be tighten up. Chairman Weick opened the public hearing. No one spoke
and the public hearing was closed. After discussion between commission members the following
motion was made.
Randall moved, Reeder seconded that the Planning Commission recommends that the City
Council adopt the proposed amendment to Chapter 18 concerning Street Design
Standards. All voted in favor, except Commissioner McGonagill who opposed and the
motion carried with a vote of 4 to 1.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Commissioner Randall noted the verbatim and summary
Minutes of the Planning Commission meeting dated June 18, 2019 as presented.
COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS. None.
ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS. CITY COUNCIL ACTION UPDATE. Kate
Aanenson provided updates from the City Council on the redevelopment of the Applebee’s site,
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the conclusion of the Red Cedar Point variances decision, Control Concepts site plan,
discussions with the property owner of 1891 Arboretum Boulevard guided for industrial
development, approval of Camp Tanadoona, grading plan for The Park, and agenda for the joint
commission/City Council tour which will be held on Wednesday, August 7th.
McGonagill moved, Skistad seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in favor and the
motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0. The Planning Commission meeting was
adjourned at 8:20 p.m.
Submitted by Kate Aanenson
Community Development Director
Prepared by Nann Opheim
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
JULY 16, 2019
Chairman Weick called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Steve Weick, Mark Randall, Michael McGonagill, Doug Reeder, and
Laura Skistad
MEMBERS ABSENT: Mark Undestad and John Tietz
STAFF PRESENT: Kate Aanenson, Community Development Director; Sharmeen Al-Jaff,
Senior Planner; MacKenzie Walters, Associated Planner; Jason Wedel, City Engineer/Public
Works Director; and Chief Don Johnson, Fire Chief
PUBLIC HEARING:
CONSIDER A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND SITE PLAN REVIEW
APPLICATION FOR AN XCEL ENERGY METER READER POLE LOCATED AT
2150 LYMAN BOULEVARD.
Al-Jaff: Thank you Chairman Weick, members of the Planning Commission. The application
before you is for a site located at 2150 Lyman Boulevard. That is north of Lyman Boulevard and
south of Chanhassen High School. The site contains the Bluff Creek Electric Substation which
has been in operation since the 1980’s. The applicant is requesting a conditional use permit and
site plan to construct 145 foot pole and a 5 foot lightning rod on top of that pole. The width of
the pole at the base is 2 feet and it tapers as it goes up. The applicant is requesting to add meter
readers at the top at the 145 foot level. Monopoles under our city code are only permitted under
the conditional use permit process and that’s why this application is before you. One of the
requirements within the city code is that we look at area within a mile radius to see if there are
other poles that might be able to accommodate this request and yes, there is one within close
proximity to this one. However it is 120 feet tall. It is at capacity at this moment so they can’t
add anymore to it. As such the necessity for this one requires that we process this application.
One other thing to add is this is a necessary public utility and they have gone through the Public
Utility Commission approvals. Again this application is before you because our city code
requires all poles to go through a conditional use process. The pole is proposed to be located on
the site maintaining setbacks that far exceed those that are required by ordinance. The city code
requires a 50 front, rear yard setbacks as well as 10 foot side yard setbacks. As you can see all of
these setbacks far exceed the 200 foot. Currently there are an array of poles and electric
structures on the site. We asked the applicant to put together an image of how this new pole
would blend in and it will have the same color and blend in perfectly with the surrounding area.
Staff is recommending approval of both the conditional use permit and site plan with conditions.
We’ll be happy to answer any questions. The applicant is here if you have technical questions on
this topic they will be able to address your questions.
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Weick: Okay. Certainly open it up for commission comment. I would say thanks for that
picture. It shows up on page 4 of 10. You don’t have to show it again but with the pole put in
there and in context of the surrounding landscape and other structures that are there I think that’s
really useful so thank you for that.
McGonagill: So I guess first question I have is why is it required at this time? What has
changed? What has occurred? The fact that now you need it because of this system is already
up and running so why is the applicant coming forward and saying we need a pole?
Aanenson: I think we’ll just let them. I think at this point I think it does appear it’s going to be
more technical so if you want to introduce yourself.
Chris Rogers: Good evening Mr. Chairman, members of the commission, my name is Chris
Rogers and I am a Principal Land Rights Agent with Xcel Energy. I also have with me Mr.
Chris Sarles who’s probably going to be able to be better suited to answer the technical question.
We call this our field area network or FAN for short The field area network is part of our
advanced grid. You may have heard of the term smart grid which is coming up and many
utilities are going to this for basically taking it to the next level. Not just to read our customer’s
meters but it’s a way for us track our loads. Track our outages. We’d be able to respond quicker
to outages. It’s a two way communication between our substation and our customer’s meters.
It’s also a way for us to manage our load and our generation so when the grid is all together, not
just with Chanhassen but with all the other areas combined, we’ll be able to manage that grid a
little bit better on a distribution level which is your residences and your businesses locally but
we’ll also be able to better manage our renewable energy on the grid which is pretty important
right now. We have a big initiative for that too so it is reading our customer’s meters. In a few
years our customers will have these smart meters installed. I’m going to bring Chris up. He’ll
probably be able to speak a little bit better about the existing system because we do read our own
meters now.
Weick: Yeah.
Chris Rogers: The system we have now is a little bit outdated from the mid 90’s and maybe
Chris if you want to elaborate on the filtering network and what we’re replacing.
Chris Sarles: Yeah good evening. So I was actually one of the folks that actually put in the
original network that was here that is working today.
Weick: Okay.
Chris Sarles: With Cell-Net and I’m working on this network now. The main difference with it
is the older network is made of one way meters so they chirp out their signal. It’s picked up by
an MCC it brought up and is brought into the system but there’s no two way communication so
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we can’t manage the meter in any way. We just read it. This way we have additional programs
we can do. There’ll be new rates and different things that the company can offer customers.
These meters, this two way network is also a mesh network so it will allow us to communicate to
sensors. Voltage sensors. RTU’s. Different things like that through the mesh and that gives us
some resiliency we don’t have today on the one way network, if that makes sense.
Weick: It does.
McGonagill: I’m kind of familiar with these kind of networks so with this it’ll be able to do, can
you go in and calibrate your meters and look at them through the mesh and back up to see you
know they’re accurate. They’re not. And I guess you could also then turn them on or turn them
off if a customer wanted that kind of service.
Chris Sarles: We can do remote disconnect, yep so that would be a shut off sensing thing but
you know there’s a lot more sensors that are available on these newer meters.
McGonagill: Sure.
Chris Sarles: So we can sense hot sockets and things like that you know which are problems that
can be taken care of.
McGonagill: So unfortunately I had an outage this winter and I could go on your system and I
could see where it up and how many customers were impacted so that’s kind of what you’re
doing except just a little bit more beauty to it I guess.
Chris Sarles: Yes. Although today we’re actually still reliant on customer call in’s.
McGonagill: Okay.
Chris Sarles: To figure out those outages and then we do have an OMS system that tries to take
care of it but it’s tied in with a calling. This new system we actually can, since it’s two way and
it’s mesh you don’t just have that last gap signal from the meter saying ooh I’m dying and that’s
it but it actually, it can, it can go a little longer. It can re-route it’s signal so if it can’t find the
way home through the normal ways it can find another path to get the data back.
McGonagill: How many customers will this reach in this area? Where the tower is what’s the
air length, how many meters are you going to pick up with it?
Chris Sarles: So I, you know it goes in and out because of the landscape but we’re looking at it
like 3 to 5 miles. A distance of radius.
McGonagill: Okay is this first tower of several that are coming or is it?
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Chris Sarles: It’s not the first tower of several that are coming. There’s actually one, I think
today we actually stacked it in Eden Prairie.
McGonagill: Okay.
Chris Sarles: At the Eden Prairie substation which is right on 212 and 5 there right south of 494.
McGonagill: Okay what about in Chanhassen though particularly?
Chris Sarles: This would be the first one for here.
McGonagill: Will there be more I guess is my question?
Chris Sarles: I don’t think we’d need another one in Chanhassen, no. Not of this type. What we
will have is we’ll probably end up with a handful of pole top.
McGonagill: Repeaters.
Chris Sarles: Yeah, access points and relays to go along to help enhance the mesh so if there’s
places where your meters are thin you know they’ll throw a relay in there and that will help the
mesh out.
McGonagill: I guess the last question, if this thing happened to be in fact it’s the tallest thing
around and does get hit by a lightning strike, yeah you’re grounded. You have that but similarly
it can get fried. You know if that goes does the electrical grid go down and then stuff just goes
on automatic itself?
Chris Sarles: You know your electricity would still be delivered.
McGonagill: You just couldn’t read it.
Chris Sarles: We just, we would lose visibility temporarily for it. And the ground is pretty good
on it.
McGonagill: Oh yeah. Just asking.
Chris Sarles: Yep it’s a good question though and it is possible to take it out.
McGonagill: Anything with electronics.
Chris Rogers: You’ll see a number of spikes in the substation too. We have a lot of other
lightning protection there too on the box structures that protect the foundation because metal is
kind of a lightning magnet too.
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McGonagill: Thank you Mr. Chair.
Aanenson: I just want to point out to the Planning Commission we do have two electric
providers in the city. The southern end of the city it actually has a different provider so there’s a
substation down there on 212 just on the east side of Gedney Pickles so just when they’re talking
about coverage area there’s a different area down in the southern part of the city.
McGonagill: Good point, thank you.
Weick: Other questions?
Skistad: Yeah.
Weick: Go ahead.
Skistad: So the, you say 3 to 5 mile radius.
Chris Sarles: Roughly.
Skistad: Is there ultimately like a 30 mile radius? I was reading some information on the
network that mentioned you could go out to 30 miles.
Chris Sarles: We could go out 30 miles potentially if the line of sight is clear. The noise floor is
low and those are two big factors we don’t really have here and so the terrain will cut it short in a
lot of areas.
Skistad: So this is primarily for wind energy?
Chris Sarles: This pole?
Skistad: This pole is created primarily for wind?
Chris Sarles: No I wouldn’t say that but it will allow the, it allows us to better see our grid. We
can do a lot better job of managing the voltage on the grid at connection points say when energy
wanted to connect or interconnect with us then we would be able to manage that better. Much
better locally because you know as that power comes onto the grid we have to make sure it’s at
the right voltage or you know your houses are going to take on a lot more potentially so.
Skistad: Right.
Chris Sarles: It cleans that up.
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Skistad: Okay. So it sounds like there’s additional equipment that will be needed by customers
to go with your tower?
Chris Sarles: Down the line yeah, the smart meters will be coming yep.
Skistad: What’s the estimated cost for those per customer.
Chris Sarles: I don’t know that we’re charging anything for customers right up front. It will
come in a rate case from a PUC so there’ll be monies and there may be a small increase coming
down the line but it would be small. And then to counter that since not only we can see, manage
our energy better you also will have the ability to manager your energy better if you so choose
to. We’ll have a lot better customer you know websites. Things are going to improve around
that so you’ll be able to see your energy in a much more granular manner than you can today.
McGonagill: So could you interface with your meter and read it to yourself?
Chris Sarles: No. I don’t think we have that capability and I don’t think we’re going to but I
think you could look through your website and potentially just see your meter and see how it’s
reading.
Chris Rogers: We’ve got to be careful how we protect that information.
Chris Sarles: So that will help. So that could potentially lower your bills then. That’s what our
expectation really is on this. One of the projects we’re serving is, it’s call Integrated Voltage
Optimization and what that is is we put a whole bunch of sensors out on those feeders and right
now we just kind of generate enough electricity on that feeder to make sure that there’s enough
voltage at the back end of that feeder that everybody’s happy working but a lot goes into the
ground. It just goes, it gets wasted so since we can manage and measure that a long way we can
actually lower the overall voltage of that meter making sure that the end customer is still
maintained but we’re going to have to generate as much that will lower our generation costs
which in in turn should lower the overall bills.
Skistad: And I guess another question I have is, if it’s wireless what sort of radiation output are
we putting?
Chris Sarles: So it’s a 10 watt radio at this time and it’s, it’s you know it’s stronger than your
cell phone but it’s also much farther away. There’s the MPE which is basically the allowed time
you have to be in front of that tower and how close you can be is 18 inches so you can be within
18 inches of those antennas right on the front of them for half an hour safely according to the
FCC so, and that’s the antenna that’s 145 feet high.
Skistad: Okay.
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Chris Sarles: Yes, now the meters they’ll also put out an RF as will the AP’s. Those are at long
lot so those are very similar to your cell phone and they’re in the same band as your cell phone.
They’re in that 900 band. This tower will be running at 3.65 to 3.7 gigahertz so. Shorter waves.
Skistad: It’s interesting that to read a little bit on this. I didn’t know anything about it before
and at one point they were going to use cell phones on this. Is there any possibility of having?
Chris Sarles: On our tower?
Skistad: Yeah I’m just curious. We, for security reasons of our substation and just of our
equipment because we will be running our grid we will not want co-location on this particular
tower.
Chris Rogers: It will also be inside the secured fenced area of the substation which is closed to
the public. On our pavement. We don’t other carrier parties in there because it’s not safe
basically and anybody who goes into our substations require an escort and proper clothing and
those type of things too so it’s a very secure area.
Skistad: Okay.
Weick: So we’ll need more poles.
Skistad: Kind of was curious if they were going to use technology or if you were going to
change over and maybe we could.
Chris Sarles: I mean there’s an unsecured tower about what, 2 miles up the road maybe.
Something like that. Maybe the cell carriers can go on that. They have a space on it.
Weick: Good questions.
Skistad: I think that’s all I have.
Weick: Okay. Any other questions for Xcel? Don’t see any. Thank you very much.
Chris Sarles: You’re welcome.
Weick: Appreciate it. At this time I will open the public hearing portion. Seeing nobody come
forward I will close the public hearing and open this for commissioner comment. Discussion.
Motion. Thoughts.
McGonagill: Mr. Chairman I’d be glad to make a motion.
Weick: That’d be wonderful, thank you.
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McGonagill: Very good. I move that the Chanhassen Planning Commission recommends the
City Council approve a Conditional Use Permit and Site Plan to allow a 145 foot pole with a 5
foot lightning rod for the Utility Meter Reader subject to the conditions of approval and adoption
of the attached Findings of Fact and Recommendation.
Weick: Thank you. We have a motion. A valid motion. Do we have a second?
Randall: Second.
Weick: We have a second. Any comment, discussion for the record before we vote?
McGonagill moved, Randall seconded that the Chanhassen Planning Commission
recommends the City Council approve a Conditional Use Permit and Site Plan to allow a
145 foot pole with a 5 foot lightning rod for the Utility Meter Reader subject to the
following conditions of approval and adoption of the attached Findings of Fact and
Recommendation:
Site Plan Review
The Planning Commission recommends the City Council approve Site Plan Permit -
Planning Case 2019-07 for a 145-foot pole with a 5-foot lightning rod as shown in
Attachment 4, and adopts the attached Findings of Fact and Recommendation, subject to the
following conditions:
1. A building permit is required to construct (erect) the (pole).
2. The pole plans must be signed by a professional engineer licensed in the State of Minnesota.
3. The contractor shall contact the Inspections Division as early as possible to discuss plan
review and permit procedures.
4. The applicant shall enter into a site plan agreement.
Conditional Use Permit
The Planning Commission recommends the City Council approve Conditional Use Permit -
Planning Case 2019-07 for a 145-foot pole with a 5-foot lightning rod as shown in
Attachment 4, and adopts the attached Findings of Fact and Recommendation, subject to the
following conditions:
1. The pole shall comply with the requirements in ARTICLE XXX. TOWERS AND
ANTENNAS of the Zoning Ordinance.
2. The pole shall not be illuminated by artificial means and shall not display strobe lights unless
such lighting is specifically required by the Federal Aviation Administration or other federal
or state authority for a particular tower.
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3. No signage, advertising or identification of any kind intended to be visible from the ground
or other structures is permitted, except applicable warning and equipment information
signage required by the manufacturer or by federal, state, or local authorities.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
Weick: The motion passes 5-0. And as we switch players at the desk, welcome MacKenzie.
Walters: Thank you.
Aanenson: And while we’re waiting for those of you that talked about gamma rays that was a
big conversation when we did the National Weather Service. They had a lot of information in on
that. Yes, a lot of information on that and we did get, but there’s some of the code amendments
we added recently regarding 5G technology where we talked about where you could put, so we
see towers going lower and more frequency as they move out in this area so kind of the changing
technology.
Skistad: I’ve seen a few.
Aanenson: Yeah.
Skistad: Concerning items on the 5G, I mean one that was placed low to the ground and what it
did to a tree on one side versus another. I don’t know if that’s real or not. I would like to know.
Aanenson: We’ve got standards in place in the right-of-way and so we haven’t had too many
requests for that yet but we’re still further out.
PUBLIC HEARING:
AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 18, SUBDIVISIONS: DESIGN STANDARDS
(STREETS AND FIRE APPARATUS ACCESS ROADS).
Walters: Alright if you’re ready we’ll get started with the discussion of some proposed code
amendments. So this is part of a, just to frame this a little bit. We’re in the process of updating
the City to reference to most standard the 2015 Minnesota Fire Code and part of that is going to
require us to update our street design standards. Because those are contained within Chapter 18
we’re going to be discussing those today as a public hearing which we’re required to by city
code. They will then be bundled with the other items for the Chapter 9 Fire Code re-write that
will go before the City Council on August 12th but first it will be discussed by the council at a
work session on July 22nd so the council will see this in combination with some other re-writes to
Chapter 9 of the City Code but because that’s outside the scope of the Planning Commission the
public hearing, tonight we’ll be just focusing on the street design standard changes in Chapter 18
and we’ll explain a little bit why we’re adopting these as part of Chapter 18 instead of in Chapter
9. But without further adieux I’ll jump right into it. So as I mentioned we have street design
standards in Chapter 18 and they differ from those that are cited in the appendix to the Minnesota
Fire Code. So if you would have adopted the Appendix D as part of Chapter 9 we would have
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created two issues. We would have created a non-conformity within our city code because we
would have referenced standards that are different than our street design standards and that
would have been pretty confusing for developers to navigate because there would have been two
different standards within our code that didn’t agree. The second issue is the way the State law
reads the final Court of Appeals for any issue with anything in Chapter 9 is the State Fire
Marshal so in theory if we would have adopted Chapter, the street design standards in Chapter 9,
if the City wanted to give a variance for that, you know they felt it was appropriate to say have a
smaller cul-de-sac or something the City Council wouldn’t necessarily have the authority to do
that and it could be appealed to the State so we wanted to balance, making sure these standards
were established because we do feel they are very important with also making sure that we had
local control to determine what was best within our community so the best solution we came up
with was to take all the provisions that are in Appendix D, basically copy and paste them into
Chapter 18 and that way we removed any potential inconsistencies between our Chapter 18 and
the Appendix D Fire Access Road Standards. And also then because it’s in Chapter 18 it goes
through the normal Chapter 18 variance standards rather than the Chapter 9 variance standards.
So we felt that we absolutely had to pick up the Appendix D standards because they are
important for ensuring the safe and efficient travel and emergency response vehicles and we also
wanted to make sure that at the end of the day the City was the authority on this and that it was
within our normal variance process. So the big changes are as follows. Our current cul-de-sacs
have a turn around radius of 45 ½ feet and we would be amending it to be 48 feet which is the
standard that’s in the Appendix D of the State Fire Code. Similarly we have a maximum cul-de-
sac length of 800 feet in our current city code and that would need to be reduced to 750 feet to
meet the standards of the Appendix D. The other thing is as it currently reads our maximum cul-
de-sac length can be, we can grant administrative approval for a larger one if the City Manager
feels there was an opportunity for future access or if the topography justifies longer length. We
would be removing those provisions and any request for deviation from the 750 foot standard
would need to go through the full variance process so they’d need to demonstrate that there was
an actual hardship. That it wasn’t a mere inconvenience and the other Findings of Fact that are
contained in Chapter 18. We’re also going to be adopting a bunch of new standards. I won’t
read through all of these. They were in your packet but basically the fire code is very detailed in
terms of making sure that the fire apparatus can navigate so there’s you know minimum street
width when you’re near a hydrant. Minimum configurations for turn arounds for various length
roads and as I said we’re adopting them wholesale. We feel that those standards were designed
by experts in their fields and we think they’re important to ensure safe and efficient access. The
one other note I will say is our city code allows temporary cul-de-sacs to have a 90 foot turning
radius. We spoke with the fire chief and we’re comfortable keeping that because the idea is
these will eventually become through streets. They will connect which brings us to something
that we want to discuss as part of this. Oh I have more on temporary cul-de-sacs. So another
slide. I mentioned they’re permitted to be a little shorter in the turn radius. We do require them
to be located within a right-of-way and we have provisions in place like requiring the developer
to put in escrow to guarantee that it’s not a cost burden to the City to remove the temporary cul-
de-sac and create a through street. They do facilitate good subdivision design. A lot of times as
I’m sure you’ve seen sometimes one parcel comes in but the surrounding parcels aren’t quite
ready to develop and temporary cul-de-sacs can be a great tool to create place holders for where
we know we want streets to go through in the future. That’s one of the reasons why we allow
them to be a little smaller because if we required the full 96 feet and associated right-of-way it
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could potentially lead to some real awkward lot design or poor subdivision design. And that’s
also why we allowed them to exceed the maximum length is because the idea is at some point
these will connect to form through streets so it won’t be an issue any longer. Unfortunately, or
sometimes connections do not go through and so this is just a couple examples we found of some
of the longer cul-de-sacs in the city and we highlighted areas where you can see there is the
temporary cul-de-sac. It was intended to connect here. For whatever reason the connection did
not happen and then the City ends up with a 3,800 foot cul-de-sac when again our current
maximum cul-de-sac length is 800 feet and it’d be 750 feet under the new ordinance. And then
this is another example where a connection didn’t go through and we ended up with a 2,700 foot
cul-de-sac so the reason why I’m bringing this up is one of the reasons why we switch away and
make cul-de-sac lengths go through the formal variance process is because we feel it puts
increased pressure on the developer to make the case for why it should be an extremely long cul-
de-sac and why it won’t connect. And we feel it pushes, we feel it helps illustrate the importance
to city places on creating these connections and creates the presumption that streets will connect
in the future. And this is something that is going to be coming up in the future. I just
highlighted 4 properties that you know obviously there’s no knowing exactly when stuff will
subdivide but that had the potential to subdivide and expand and where we have put in temporary
cul-de-sacs or planned for streets to go through and where there may likely be issues with
creating that connection and where the Planning Commission and City Council will have to
weigh in on you know the relative merits of allowing for longer cul-de-sacs or requiring planned
connections. And I think I’ll.
Aanenson: I’m just going to add a couple comments. So the goal here tonight, we’ve got two
experts here. Public Works and Engineering Director and then the Fire Chief because planners
like to connect but I think there’s some other reasons to have the controls on the cul-de-sac. I
think the challenge that you face is when a new subdivision comes in and people don’t want to
make change even though it’s a temporary. As you can see on these drawings they’re not always
a temporary level and sometimes it’s 10 years between subdivision connections. Sometimes
even longer and we can’t control when someone’s ready to develop and the streets aren’t
connected. We can only control what’s coming forward and plan for it in the future so part of
what we’d like to do, if you have questions or if the two gentlemen, experts here would like to
maybe give some of their feedback of why they want to have more specific language on this so
I’ll turn it over to them if they want to make a few comments.
Chief Don Johnson: Fire Chief Don Johnson. I suppose you can see my tag. We have, the fire
code is more of our Bible here. It lends a consistent practice. It’s based on a few different
things. It’s based on International Building Code. International Fire Code and adopted by the
State Fire Marshal’s Office so it is kind of our guide book. From my point and standpoint with
the cul-de-sacs it’s very difficult to probably explain to people unless you live in my shoes but if
we have a structure fire in one of these areas and we call in 5, 6, 7 trucks, 2 of them are going to
be over 40 feet long. The other 3 are going to be in the 30 foot length so if we can’t get those
turned around, if you want to back one of those out, now we’re backing 5 or 6 of them out. Last
night during a storm we had a tree, a considerably large tree go down on Pleasant View. If that
was on a cul-de-sac was affected by that it’s going to be difficult to reach past with some of these
2,800 and 2,700 foot cul-de-sacs so one of the reasons they have 750 listed out is I carry enough
hose to probably get through one of those obstacles but when we start talking about impeding
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services and that would be my point in a lot of these. I have not seen in my time here, which is
short in 5 years where we’ve developed a cul-de-sac that connected. I know there was one
previous to my coming here but it turns into quite a level of concern with the folks that are
already on that home. I would say that if you would consider that when you make these
decisions that you’re impacting folks that haven’t even bought homes yet and it’s not just the fire
service. It’s fire, police and EMS that in some instances have to go a pretty long route to get
down to the bottom of these places so in a good situation it’s okay but I can’t always promise
that we have good situations. So with the lengths of the streets, the widths of the streets,
especially in some of these longer areas if I do have an incident where we, depending on what
side of the street the hydrant’s on, if I start pulling hose across I’m not going to be able to get any
vehicles past that either so enough with the cul-de-sacs but that’s one of the reasons that we have
that. The other piece of Appendix D also addresses the apparatus, aerial apparatus length. So
any commercial developments going in, 30 foot above grade requires a certain load. Again that
truck is 40 feet long and managing those roads on the way in can be difficult if we’re not
bringing them to widths. As well as you’ll see some of the hammer heads and some of the ways
those other roads and most of that ends up being in private residential, private streets such as
townhomes and some of these cottage homes where you know there’s not a lot of homes on the
street. There has to be some type of turn around depending on the length and I know talking
with the Public Works Director that this probably wouldn’t be approved under public roads
anyways but it’s one of the things that this Appendix deals with fire lanes. It deals with a lot of
the different dynamics off how we set up our commercial and residential developments and it
needs to be in there but it also allowing it to be an ordinance gives the council the flexibility to
make some decisions past the fire code. So I can stand for questions if anybody’s got anything
specific on fire apparatus.
McGonagill: I do as always. You know part of what my business was was managing risk in
another business and what you’re talking about is managing risk. Now when I was first reading
this I was going okay, I was looking at cul-de-sacs and length trying to balance out which was
the higher risk. I think you’ve answered that in my mind but I’m going to put that question to
you. When you look at the risk matrix, which is what we do when we’re managing risk,
temporary. You know the cul-de-sac restriction, size, diameter and length, which one’s the
higher risk for you to operate and manage an event?
Chief Don Johnson: You know to be honest it’s getting to the scene and setting up is probably
more of, would be my concern than egress. Or getting out so the cul-de-sac itself allows me to
turn that vehicle around in lieu of backing completely back out of the cul-de-sac so I think that’s
probably, that would probably be a better concern for me is the overall length.
McGonagill: So excuse me, so you’re saying the cul-de-sac is a bigger issue for you than the
length.
Chief Don Johnson: No the other way around. So the length of the actual cul-de-sac is what’s
going to impede me getting to the scene and start handling the emergency. The cul-de-sac
allows me safe exit on, and a less impactful exit on getting back out with some of the larger
vehicles that we operate.
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McGonagill: This is a question for staff. MacKenzie if you had to look at the, use the word
density, how many areas, how many temporary cul-de-sacs do we have percentage wise and then
also cul-de-sacs, I’m talking about the circle part of the diameter and how many are over our
standard, or decided length?
Aanenson: We don’t have that data. I can get it for you.
McGonagill: Well I’m just curious. Is it a lot? Is it you know, is this a common problem we
have?
Chief Don Johnson: I would say it’s not just in Chanhassen. It’s not just a common problem but
one of the changes that’s coming with the proposed change is to actually, our current standard is
a 90 foot cul-de-sac.
McGonagill: Right.
Chief Don Johnson: And this change would bring about a 96 foot cul-de-sac for anything that
would come in after this proposal.
McGonagill: And that’s driven because of the equipment that you have?
Chief Don Johnson: Correct. Correct. I’d like to add one other thing about cul-de-sacs if you
think about 20 years from now or go to the north end where they’re reconing streets, that’s the
longer that cul-de-sac is while they’re doing the recon and repaving also impacts our time during
that timeframe as well so again it’s just, I look at it differently because of my response and that’s.
McGonagill: Yeah I agree with you and I’ll have some comments when we get in discussion.
Weick: Okay.
McGonagill: So what you’re saying is the length is the bigger risk, if I can use that term, than
the diameter. Both are concerning. Okay. It’s harder to fix the length than it is the other thing
so okay. Thank you.
Wedel: So from a public works and a maintenance standpoint, talking about cul-de-sacs, a
couple of reasons why we try to avoid cul-de-sacs whenever possible is because one, they require
local trips to usually have to come out of their neighborhood and go onto one of our collector or
arterial roads. The Longacres example that was shown on the screen. If you wanted to get to a
neighbor’s house you have to go out onto Highway 41, go down the street and then get back into
the neighborhood and you’re just trying to make a local trip so it’s putting unnecessary trips on
our roads that are meant for long durations for getting people through town and getting them to
work and now we’re putting local trips on there so that’s adding more congestion. Cul-de-sacs
also are larger from an impervious area standpoint so when you’re looking at a new subdivision
and the amount of stormwater runoff that is generated from a cul-de-sac versus a normal street,
now we’re putting in more, larger stormwater ponds. Our infrastructure that goes to support that
additional impervious area is increased because of the size of the cul-de-sac and how much
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pavement is physically there. Chief Johnson mentioned reconstruction. When we reconstruct
cul-de-sacs that’s, you know right now the City assesses 40 percent of the cost. 60 percent of the
cost is paid out of the general taxes. They’re more expensive to replace for the City so when we
do reconstruction projects, cul-de-sacs do add cost to our projects that otherwise wouldn’t be
there. And then from a, just purely from a maintenance perspective we use different equipment
for snowplowing cul-de-sacs than we do main line streets. Certain equipment is better used for
cul-de-sacs versus what the radius is versus main line roads so it takes extra time for us to plow
cul-de-sacs and one cul-de-sac you know is not a big deal but incrementally as you keep adding
them it does become a bigger deal. We’re adding you know roughly 2-2 ½ miles of streets per
year toward our city street network just with new development coming in and we’re not adding
staff so our public works staff, the number of plow drivers we have. The number of trucks we
use hasn’t changed in over a decade but we’re adding miles of street per year so when we’re
trying to be efficient at doing our jobs and getting the snow off the road, cul-de-sacs just add
more time and it just takes more effort for us. And then lastly that’s not so much related to the
road but the utilities beneath the road. Our watermains. So our watermains when you have a
cul-de-sac they just get stubbed to the end of the cul-de-sac. They’re not looped. They’re not
connected to the rest of the water system so all the homes that come off that stub, that water can
get stagnant more easily so, which then requires us to go out and flush hydrants and so some
things to keep the water fresh in those cul-de-sac areas so those are just some of the reasons from
a public works and maintenance standpoint why we try to minimize the use of cul-de-sacs if
possible.
Weick: Kind of along those lines though, question for you and it just kind of popped up when
you were talking about it. I understand, I fully understand all the reasons why we’d prefer not to
have them but do you find that homeowners prefer cul-de-sacs? From a safety, a perceived
safety standpoint or you know slower traffic flow and those kind of things, do you fight that
where?
Wedel: Absolutely. I mean I think people value the quietness of a cul-de-sac.. They feel like,
though they shouldn’t, they can allow their kids to go bike around in the street because they think
there’s less traffic. We certainly don’t encourage using the streets for playgrounds and
basketball hoops and everything else that tend to end up in cul-de-sacs and I would say
developers they get more premiums for lots.
Weick: And that’s where my question was.
Wedel: And cul-de-sacs are so I mean there is a financial benefit to developers to put in cul-de-
sacs so there is that wrestling with what’s the right design for the neighborhood versus a
developer who is just really wanting to get the most bang for their buck from their projects.
Weick: Right.
Chief Don Johnson: I would just add to that, that I’m not opposed to cul-de-sacs. I would just
like conforming cul-de-sacs which allow us you know an in and out. Again I would just say that
you’ve got one way in to this location. You don’t have multiple ways in if something were to
impede that roads or for any reason for any of the services. I’m not just here on behalf of the fire
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service but you’ve got one way in so which sometimes is time for whatever is going on in that
area.
Aanenson: So I’m going to circle the conversation back to planners. It’s nice to have other
experts here to get their opinions so we’re grateful for that. They’re here with us but I think the
big issue that we look at is we provide a stub street. We see how it’s going to be connected so
our job as planners we see is how do we make all the pieces of the puzzle fit. Not every piece is
ready to go at the same time. Some people have bigger pieces that they can maximize their
development. Some people have smaller pieces that are dependent on getting extension from
somewhere else and we have regulations of how you divide your property. We don’t want every
property to be to access off a collector road you know so we have internal so we look at that.
When one piece comes in we always ask or we used to a lot in the past when we had minor
pieces to do a ghost plat. How would this street be extended in the future and so when you do
that, and when we had this conversation now it’s a lot different than when you have a bunch of
people in there saying I never wanted this to go through. I didn’t anticipate that and that’s when
it becomes harder but what we’re trying to encourage now is kind of being more deliberate in
these, in understanding. That’s using you to be the advocates or educate the public that we
believe that by not connecting certain streets you really as was stated you’re limiting other
factors. The potential of someone else to divide it because they can’t get access because we
require a public street. Additional trips because of the way that they get to their property so we
just want to think through those a little bit more so I think, I don’t think I’m confident by having
you know more sensitivity on this topic when we come forward with some of these subdivisions
that it will help us all make better decisions and it does create the flexibility of what we wanted
for the City Council. There was some unique, which we’ve had in the past whether it’s steep
slopes, a significant wooded area that we didn’t want to but I think the first thing the neighbors
said we don’t want to connect to somebody. Well we’re all connected to each other and again
this is plannereze. We’re all connected. Our kids are going to go to school together. That sort
of thing and the mailman’s going to go by. The school bus is going to go by. The garbage is
going to go by. Those are all the extra trips that Jason had talked about that you’re actually
putting on the roads. By not letting the garbage man go through or the mailman you’re actually
creating extra trips so those are the things that we think about and the like so I think we just want
to make sure that we’re giving good consideration as we move forward on these subdivisions,
and especially those little infill parcels that we had provided access. We have planned ahead and
said no, we don’t want you to take advantage of that and we do have some that are coming
forward. I think the easy pieces have been taken. Some of the more challenging ones are
coming forward so again this will be a discussion with the City Council but this is a public
hearing Chairman so if there’s any additional questions I would.
Weick: I think fairly easy questions. One, so a temporary cul-de-sac we’re changing the.
Aanenson: Radius.
Weick: The radius and then, but we’re not changing, a temporary cul-de-sac still needs to be at a
max 750 feet correct?
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Walters: Yes it would be subject to 750 foot max and to clarify the radius for the temporary cul-
de-sac would not be changing. It would still be that 90 foot yep. But it would need a variance to
go over the 750 feet.
Aanenson: Yeah.
Weick: Just like any of them would.
Walters: Exactly.
Weick: And then we’re not changing how a cul-de-sac is measured correct?
Walters: No we are not.
Weick: Okay. Because I know we’ve had a lot of discussion over that in the past.
Walters: I briefly considered redoing the graphic to try to further clarify what I thought was a
very clear graphic but decided I was still happy with my graphic.
Weick: We want to get home tonight so we’ll jut leave that where it is. Yes please.
Skistad: Just have one question. So if I look, if you look at Foxwood and you have that circle
down there. So I’m assuming that the person who would purchase one of those properties next
to it would have a pretty good idea or would be able to go and ask you guys.
Aanenson: Yeah there is a sign down there too. We typically do that now. There weren’t in the
past that says this road will be extended in the future.
Skistad: Okay.
Aanenson: But that doesn’t mean that they’re going to acknowledge that or.
Skistad: All I’m saying is.
Aanenson: Correct. They can have.
Skistad: It’s there. It’s in the city so it’s not a surprise to anyone unless they haven’t done their
homework.
Aanenson: Actually have…in your comp plan too because that’s a connection that’s going to
actually tie into Powers Boulevard where we’ve got a lift station. That road will come all the
way back up onto 101 so that’s kind of an important thread yeah for a connector.
Skistad: Okay and I was just using that one as an example there. Not, you know I look at some
of the other ones and there’s clear issues.
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Aanenson: Well I would say this. I think sometimes the biggest challenge is we have different
densities. When you’re talking single family single family because whether it’s the lot size it’s
still single family homes and typically they’re within the same square footage or price range. I
think the more challenging connections are if you have a townhome going to a single family
neighborhood which we do in certain areas but typically we like to see the townhome closer to
the collector and the single family for the back so the single family with the less trips are going
through the more dense if that makes sense. We typically do not try to mix those two together.
Skistad: Okay.
Weick: But the trips are certainly no light matter. I think the City Council now is dealing with
repairing roads right?
Aanenson: Oh yeah.
Weick: It’s a direct, you know I live on one of those cul-de-sacs that yeah I would love the road
to be replaced right but we can’t afford as a city to replace every road because the trips are
higher and the road’s getting deteriorated faster and that’s unfortunate. That’s a real side effect
of increased trips. That’s not just a kind of a thing people say so. Anyway all real issues. Any
other comments? Questions.
McGonagill: No discussion?
Weick: Well open the public hearing. Right sorry. I will at this time open the public hearing
portion. Seeing nobody come forward I will close the public hearing and open it up for
commissioner comment and discussion and motion.
McGonagill: Well then I’ll start and you know thank you MacKenzie for the work you’ve done
on it. I don’t believe anything’s ever temporary particularly when it comes to safety. I never
built a temporary pipeline. I don’t have temporary airplanes. It’s permanent. When you build
something on the ground, particularly a road it’s permanent so I don’t, I’m not in favor of a 90
foot temporary cul-de-sac because the odds of it becoming permanent in this day and age are
becoming harder and harder in my mind so I think you lock a design. There’s no temporary
patches in my Bible. If you have a Bible it’s a Bible and that’s what you use so I’m, I’m
rigorous about that particularly on safety matters. There’s other things that I’d go all day on but
that. I think the other point, and you’re right Chairman. Mr. Chairman the amount of trips on
our roads, particularly on cul-de-sacs because I live in Longacres. We have a ton of them, due to
just the fact of the way our garbage situation is now with garbage trucks and now we have, we
have to pick up, we don’t have a place to dispose of our lawn waste. There’s another trips and
those trucks are getting bigger. When they make those corners it just grinding those streets to
bits and then with the increased delivery mail due to home deliver of products like Amazon, now
more trips. So there’s, that hits me with two things. The roads are going to go higher and higher
use. Therefore you need to make them more vehicle friendly which makes, you want a larger
turning radius I mean for them frankly and shorter lengths. And you just can’t do that. I look at
some of the designs going here and go some of these, you know I look at and go, really I don’t
want to set that up for future planning commissioners to deal with. I think you’ve got to be
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pretty hard and fast about the way it is. This is our design. This is what we adhere to. We don’t
deviate from it. I mean I wouldn’t do that on building a house on fire code and this is no different
than that so I, I look at you know I don’t like the 90 foot at all because once it’s there it’s there so
it’s I think you put the standard in. They’re all built the same and I think that if, if you have to
build a temporary what you might call a temporary because you don’t have a connection on the
other side I get that. I agree with your planning staff Kate to push that as hard as you can to put
in some sort of skin in the game on the part of the developer but I think we’ve got to plan on the
fact that that thing is going to be there. What is a real, and if you particularly have to push back
hard, whenever you start to see a cul-de-sac go or road to a cul-de-sac go 1,000 feet, 1,500 feet,
2,000 feet, you’ve got, we just have to fight against that harder because it’s going to be, even at a
path we have a 3,500 foot down the road right? And that is bad. I think you could probably
handle with the apparatus 1,000 foot. You know 1,200. You would figure it out but when
you’re 3 times that we’ve made you a problem that you can’t solve so all that being said I would
like to see this design standard tighten up and be tighter to allow fewer exemptions to it because
as we get on the road these problems are going to get harder. Not easier. And the only way you
can make them easier is with a Bible that you don’t deviate from. So I don’t know what I’d do
with the recommendation but I’m just saying I don’t think it’s tight enough. I think it’s got to be
more restrictive. This is what we do. Particularly traffic from the roads.
Aanenson: I’d just challenge that a little bit because we spent some time. You know we work
with developers on this all the time and so, actually Jason and I looked at some different
drawings too. You know if you put the burden all on the developer it’s going to be really
difficult to develop here. You know if you make them do the connections a little shorter, make
the houses set back and not a temporary, they’re not going to be building those and so then it just
really, I’m not sure there’s a good solution to that.
McGonagill: But a 3 foot is not that much more. 3 foot on a radius on a 90 versus a 96 is it?
Aanenson: Well the impact of the driveway is. I mean we looked at the different drawings and
again you’re putting a lot of onto the builder so you know we can look at some more recent ones
that we just approved that are existing stub streets that don’t meet conformance on the recent
larger subdivision that we just did. I think we have 2-3.
McGonagill: Two or three.
Aanenson: Two or three in there right.
McGonagill: I understand completely.
Aanenson: So and those are all substandard but putting those larger ones, those homes wouldn’t
go in there so when you’re putting someone in escrow and to say to a developer you know you
can sit on that in escrow for 15 years until the street goes through. I’m not sure you know.
McGonagill: As a come back against your point. I understand that. Our job’s not here to make
the developer money. Our job in this case is safety and that’s what I’m hearing and therefore the
standard is a standard in my mind.
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Aanenson: Sure.
Wedel: May I?
Weick: Sure. Yeah please.
Wedel: Mr. Chair, members of the commission.
Weick: It’s a good discussion.
Wedel: So the photo that’s in front of you is actually from a project in Prior Lake. So prior to
my coming to the City of Chanhassen I worked for the City of Prior Lake and this is a project
that I was involved with.
McGonagill: So you did this?
Wedel: This cul-de-sac doesn’t exist anymore because the street went through but part of what
was done here is, you can see the right-of-way lines go straight through, it’s just a normal 60 foot
right-of-way width. It doesn’t follow the bubble of the cul-de-sac so it allowed the homes to get
built but you can see how close they are to the bubble of that cul-de-sac. They really almost
don’t have much of a front yard. It felt awkward and uncomfortable so these homeowners
couldn’t wait for the street to go through because they wanted their front yards back so it’s
finding that right balance of not, we don’t want to accommodate a temporary cul-de-sac too
much so that it feels comfortable that people want it to stay. We want it to feel uncomfortable so
that they want the temporary to go away so they can get their front yards back so that was part of
the discussion we had.
McGonagill: I agree with you because if the temporary, what they do they do become basketball
courts. I’ve seen them. I’ve driven past them and then you really fight against them because
they want to, it’s a safety issue. Where it’s a safety issue to start with.
Chief Don Johnson: Commissioner McGonagill I’d add to that too. This was a discussion that
we had because I was kind of on the same page as you and I say that because I don’t see them
ever connecting. I see, and I think it was the way that Jason and Kate talked to me about it. I
think this is something that we could live with. If we could hold to that 90 in regards to some of
these temporaries in limited situations I can live with that as long as we’re not going under 90
which we have in some instances and as this points out it’s pretty easy to see. This isn’t really an
appealing, an appealing place to be right now when you can’t even park a car in a part of your
driveway without hitting the street so.
McGonagill: I agree with you Chief. The only, and I agree with what you said except the
problem has, you said you know I agree with it as long as it’s temporary. There’s no rules for
what the temporary means. There’s no, you know what you’ve done is given people a way out
that says I decide what should be temporary or, you know the council decides and suddenly in
my mind you’ve suddenly put a safety issue in the hands of people that you know against a code
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that exists over here that you’re trying to adhere to. That’s why I’m pretty rigorous about these
sort of things.
Chief Don Johnson: And I appreciate that.
McGonagill: And you do it whether you like it or not. It’s the way you do it you know. Does
that, because I, give people something and they’ll take this and that’s what’s happened with
some of these 3,200 and 3,000, 2,000 foot long cul-de-sacs. Thank you. I mean sorry, I could go
on and on about it. It’s a personal thing.
Skistad: So my question is why do we really need a temporary cul-de-sac? Why can’t we push
the road on this one all the way through like it would and just have a turn around with no houses
on that turn around?
Aanenson: Right that’s the other, that would be the other option. You wouldn’t let them build
on those last few lots and put the cul-de-sac at the end. That could be an option.
Skistad: So that could be an option that we could do instead because I’ve seen that before but.
Aanenson: But then you’re back to the same thing. You’re back to that street will never go
through even though we believe the property to the north in order to develop needs that road to
go through but now it will never go through because now we’ve got the perfect scenario. A cul-
de-sac with nobody on it that nobody can come down. Plenty of snow storage for the snowplow
to go by so I think what we all rationalize is, the neighbors have some skin in the game to get
that road to go through because they’re going to end up with a bigger front yard because if you
put the cul-de-sac at the end it would be very difficult to push the street through we believe.
McGonagill: Yeah then it’s a traffic issue.
Aanenson: Right. Right, right.
Weick: And we did, I mean from a safety standpoint I mean we did kind of discuss how the
lengths are probably more key. You know if we can be diligent about trying to limit I think the
length of these in the future to me that’s the more important variable than the diameter. But
that’s just my.
Skistad: And that can’t be marketed as a cul-de-sac then.
Aanenson: Yeah they’re not but people still, they have the perception. And let’s say the
property changes 2 or 3 times before the street goes through. Well I didn’t buy into that. I didn’t
know that. I was the third buyer so it’s, that’s what I’m saying. It’s a constant education on
everybody’s part is that this street was intended to go through and like I said we put those sign
down. If you came and looked at the plat you could see the plat doesn’t show a permanent cul-
de-sac but most people don’t do their due diligence. If they come talk to us we always would
explain that they’re looking at a lot, they should know that that street’s intended to go through.
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McGonagill: Can you put something in the code that would, I don’t know it’s a requirement on
the city staff that wherever these temporaries are that there is a sign there. That we inspect it
every year to be sure they’re there.
Aanenson: We do.
McGonagill: Well a lot of them the sign.
Weick: Signs walk away.
McGonagill: Signs walk away. That’s why we can come back and say it’s there and we keep
putting it up and.
Aanenson: Sure, we put in the chain of title in people’s properties too and you know that doesn’t
stop political will to come in a big group and talk about the children and so, that’s why we’re
having this. It’s an uncomfortable discussion and we don’t have a project in front of us. It
amplifies when you have a project in front of you yeah, so.
Chief Don Johnson: Technically by design those would become fire lanes as well and no
parking because they would have to be free of access for the turn arounds of whatever is going
down there. Whether it’s a garbage truck but those would be posted as fire lanes and no parking
for those folks at the end as well.
Skistad: I always wonder what you do with some of those tiny developments. Around the lakes.
Aanenson: Oh yeah it’s a challenge. Challenge to snowplow.
Weick: Good discussion though. Good feedback.
Aanenson: So part of you’re discussing tonight will be discussing at the next City Council
meeting. We’ll kind of be sharing with them what your discussion was. I mean you’re going to
make a motion but we’re also going to share a little bit more detail of the discussion.
Weick: It’s going to be part of a work session right?
Aanenson: Correct. Yeah so it’ll be a little bit more robust.
Weick: Yeah. Are there any other open questions that we need to get answered as a group?
Skistad: I think we’re good.
Weick: Thoughts of a motion of any kind?
Randall: I would make a motion. Proposed motion. The Chanhassen Planning Commission
recommends that the City Council adopt the proposed amendment to Chapter 18 concerning
street design standards.
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Weick: We have a motion. Do we have a second?
Reeder: I’ll second that.
Weick: We have a motion and a second. We should pause for comment.
McGonagill: Thank you Mr. Chairman. I will vote against it because I do not think it’s tight
enough. I think you’re still, even through you have a design standard and the best intention of
the planning people and our city council I think it’s just, you just, it’s kicking the can down the
road for further debate in this room which we’ve been part of on cul-de-sacs and streets. Do I
have the right answer? No but I think you’ve given the street loads. What we’re going through
with that. Given the fact with what I’ve heard from the Fire Chief, you know and I’ve benefitted
by some of these decisions in my own neighborhood about very long cul-de-sacs so, but I see
what’s happening to the place because of it and the amount of traffic that’s increased because of
it so while I appreciate staff’s work I will be voting against this amendment.
Weick: Appreciate that and also as we’ve talked about, you know I think all of these really valid
concerns and comments obviously will be part of the record for the work session and certainly
gives that group an opportunity to consider all of your concerns as well.
McGonagill: Yeah and I’m not against adopting a standard.
Weick: Yep.
McGonagill: I’m really not. I think we need one. We desperately need one. I just don’t think
this is, this simply leaves too much wiggle room for other, for the problems to continue.
Skistad: You’re primarily concerned about the length.
McGonagill: Length and the diameter as well. I agree with what he’s saying here so you just set
a standard and that’s what you design to.
Weick: The length is getting shorter.
McGonagill: It has to get shorter.
Weick: It’s going from 800 to 750.
Randall: But the problem is with the temporary ones that’s.
McGonagill: See that now you trying, somebody has a 1,600 foot like that.
Randall: I know and you know I was just looking at the map of Stratford, remember that one?
The one that was a temporary one that.
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Weick: Is now permanent.
Randall: No one every knew that it was but I’m looking at the footage of it and like those homes
on that cul-de-sac were designed at an angle when we saw the one that Jason showed us where
they purposely made the houses so that it was sure of going through you know and is that
something in the standard of a temporary that you make it uncomfortable like you said. I like
that idea.
McGonagill: I do too.
Randall: Because I mean you can see it right there.
McGonagill: Oh yeah because, that’s exactly the one I was thinking about. Had this big debate
and there was a basketball hoop sitting right there and it’s like, and that’s what they were
fighting against.
Randall: I know.
Skistad: They were fighting over the basketball hoop?
Randall: No they were fighting over the temporary one because it was supposed to go through
and it was a long, lengthy process but yeah so.
McGonagill: And so now you have a long cul-de-sac with a shorter diameter.
Aanenson: You might be seeing that property again very soon.
McGonagill: And they have to come through.
Skistad: Could you show, do you have it up there? Could you put it up there again please?
Walters: Were you looking at this one or?
Randall: No the one I was talking about was Stratford.
McGonagill: Stratford you don’t have that.
Skistad: Okay.
McGonagill: It’s coming so to the commission so anyway, sorry.
Weick: But temporary would all still need to be 750 feet.
Walters: Yes and to clarify that is one of the changes that is being made under the code as it
currently is one of the reasons that it can be approved at a longer length without a variance is if
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there’s a potential for future access and that’s been used to allow for temporary and they’re
longer. Those provisions are being deleted.
Weick: Right.
Walters: In order to exceed 750 feet now they will have to demonstrate hardship and have to
convince yourselves and the City Council that it is not a mere inconvenience. You know not a
mere we’d like another lot here. That it is an actual hardship.
Weick: I mean this gives us more.
Aanenson: Oh absolutely.
McGonagill: Oh absolutely.
Weick: Control. Not if you use that word but over how these things get developed in the future
versus what we’ve had in the past. And tightens the length.
McGonagill: It does. I would agree with that. I just, I don’t like the word temporary at all and it
is what it is. Do it right and you’re done.
Skistad: But if we don’t go forward with this then it’s going to be sitting there for all the other
developing items or properties that are coming through so I guess for me I’d want to make sure
we have something different even if it’s not perfect because I don’t know that we know what
perfect is.
Weick: Agreed. Also good, valid points. Well we do have a valid motion and a second. And
we’ve had good discussion as well for the record.
Randall moved, Reeder seconded that the Planning Commission recommends that the City
Council adopt the proposed amendment to Chapter 18 concerning Street Design
Standards. All voted in favor, except Commissioner McGonagill who opposed and the
motion carried with a vote of 4 to 1.
Weick: Motion passes 4 to 1. Thank you all again and thank you for your input and really
important and valid. So those are the two items we had this evening.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Commissioner Randall noted the verbatim and summary
Minutes of the Planning Commission meeting dated June 18, 2019 as presented.
COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS. None.
ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS. CITY COUNCIL ACTION UPDATE.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Commissioner Randall noted the verbatim and summary
Minutes of the Planning Commission meeting dated June 18, 2019 as presented.
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COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS. None.
ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS. CITY COUNCIL ACTION UPDATE.
Weick: Kate I will turn it over to you for administrative presentations.
Aanenson: I’ll give you the City Council updates.
Weick: Yes.
Aanenson: So because we did have a meeting on the 24th. They discussed the Applebee’s site.
We’ll talk about that when we do our tour. The redevelopment there. Also on a variance on Red
Cedar Point. I think we got to a conclusion there. I think isn’t it a win/win when everybody’s
unhappy so maybe you want to just explain a little bit what that was.
Walters: Yeah. After discussion the council wanted to maintain the longer driveway that the
Planning Commission had recommended while also allowing the applicant to maintain their
footprint so they allowed the house to move 3 feet closer to the lake in order to facilitate a longer
driveway. And so the motion was then changed accordingly to allow for the increased lot cover
that would be associated with that.
Aanenson: And then also I wanted to note that Control Concept was approved. Remember we
had the stipulation on there regarding making sure the driveways, they needed to do a traffic
study. They did do that so it was determined that those two driveways should align on Century
Boulevard so there’s a piece of property, city property to the north so they’re going to do an
easement, driveway easement over that property so that’s in the works right now. …no they’re
just giving an easement. It’s a minor change in the driveway approach. That’s it so.
Skistad: Oh okay.
Aanenson: Yeah.
Skistad: That’s not the, that’s the Applebee’s?
Aanenson: No. It’s Control Concepts. It was an industrial building on Century Boulevard,
yeah. So the Applebee’s, the parking easement was approved. They haven’t executed that
document but we’ll go by that on our tour. I’ll talk about in a minute. We did talk to the
property owner on 1891 Arboretum Boulevard. That’s the property just to the east of the town,
corporate townhouses that are there on Highway 5 and kind of to the west of Paisley Park. On
that so it’s 21 acres guided industrial. When we did the Highway 5 corridor study and looked at
access there was a right-in/right-out granted on that. They’re looking at potentially trying to put
some commercial there. Staff had some concerns about that. They’re going to give us some
information regarding traffic and then the City Engineer will meet with MnDOT and see what
the status of that right-in/right-out would be there. So that you would see if it comes in for a
project. Camp Tanadoona was approved so we’ll be seeing that permit come through this fall
and then grading permit for The Park was approved so that’s Phase 1 of The Park so pretty close
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to having a pre-con it sounds like and so I know we’ll check all the construction easements for
that first phase which goes a little bit beyond that but the final plat, we’ve got scheduled for that
first meeting in August so all the work has been done on our side internally reviewing all the
plans. They’re making a couple tweaks regarding the location of a parking lot that was put
internally. They want more to the south so they’re working through that.
McGonagill: What did they end up with how many lots on that thing?
Aanenson: 167.
McGonagill: They stayed with 167?
Aanenson: Yes. Yep so that’s it for the update. And I just want.
McGonagill: One question on the Applebee’s.
Aanenson: Sure, absolutely.
McGonagill: I had a question from a citizen. They were asking me about that parking lot that
Applebee’s put in. Does the, will that be restricted just to the employees or is it public parking?
Aanenson: You know we looked at that. There’s really no other uses that would use it.
Walgreen’s has plenty of parking so I can’t imagine anybody else. Actually our
recommendation is that they put the employees over there. Can we regulate that? We’re hoping
they self police on that but there is cross access against all of those properties so we’re guessing
on the weeknights that people they’re up to 20 spaces on the Walgreen’s parking lot that’s
available. And then there’s also if the tire in the back so there is additional there.
McGonagill: Where the question was coming from was growing out of a concern around the
Venue and parking, limited you know parking there if someone has an extra car or two they just
go park it over there and they leave it there instead of having to park it on the street or
something. You know can that happen was the question?
Aanenson: Parking on the street?
McGonagill: No. Could they, could somebody like say if I had a truck you know could I park
and just leave it?
Aanenson: I don’t think the easement agreement calls for that but you know could it happen?
Yes. Just like someone could park on a public street anywhere in the city without being in front
of their property.
Skistad: How come that didn’t come through the planning, I’m just curious.
Aanenson: It’s an addition, a minor change to an existing building. By temporary, if it’s 10
percent minor change to an existing building then it doesn’t have to go to the Planning
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Commission. So it’s the same thing with the parking on the Control Concepts. Their parking’s
going to swing a little bit to the north for Control Concepts and they’ll be coming across the City
parking. Excuse me the city property to align that driveway so we would consider that but it’s
the same number of stalls. They’re just swing it a little bit to make the driveway work so again
we, the city code allows if it’s a minor change. They’re not the number of parking stalls and that
sort of thing isn’t changing so for the parking lot it’s less than 10 percent of the overall shared
parking so that’s the interpretation. The still have to get all their watershed permits so the review
that they have to have, they have to submit all their civils so all that will still go through the
engineering department. It’s not any different, we’ve done large additions to existing industrial
buildings that they still have to submit all their plans and get approved by the City so our
engineering department, water resources and the watershed district will be doing all the permits
and they have to submit any other permits that were required for them to construct so.
Skistad: And let’s look at that and what happened with the parking lot on the other side where
the, I’m trying to think. I don’t go over there because it’s so bad. That little section of parking
and all of that, that’s basically the only other through street through Chan is that little frontage
road is what I think of it as.
Aanenson: Are you talking about Smashburger over there?
Skistad: Yeah.
Aanenson: Yeah.
Skistad: Panera now and now we’re like, it’s hard to like today I was trying to drive in the
middle of the day just trying to turn out on either end of those roads. Getting across there is
almost impossible so now we’re adding additional you know people. A people burden crossing
that road.
Aanenson: Yep the council was really in favor of that project so. The other thing I would say I
met with the TIF district that was put in place with the apartment project and Aldi’s. That will
be Market Boulevard has some improvements and maybe that’s what you want to talk about.
Wedel: No I was just going to mention with the Applebee’s parking lot that we did also consult
with an engineering consulting firm that specializes in traffic and pedestrian crossing so we did
get some input on some design factors that they are going to incorporate into that design so there
was some additional help we included as a part of that as well.
Skistad: Who do we consult with?
Wedel: So for that one we consulted with SRF, an engineering firm. They’re kind of a
transportation and.
Skistad: Is it we use different farms?
Wedel: Yes.
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Skistad: On a regular basis.
Wedel: We have different engineering consulting firms that specialize in certain things. We use
Barr Engineering when we’re dealing with wells. We use SRF for traffic. You know we, so
there are different firms that have specialties and so this was one area where we wanted to make
sure we were doing all the right things when we were looking at that pedestrian crossing and so
they provided some good input on the design that is now being incorporated by them.
Aanenson: So one of the things that we were adamant about is the crossing is that we don’t want
people to try to cross mid-block and go to that sidewalk so we’re making them move, eliminate
the existing sidewalk a little bit closer to the door so we looked at all that and so those are, I
would say the last time we used SRF was actually on Paisley Park and they gave us some really
good recommendations on bus circulation and traffic into that so I think that’s, they did a good
job and they gave us some good insight and Jason didn’t talk about this but there’s actually going
to be a median so when you’re crossing, it’s one way in. One way out and then when you’re
crossing it will be a raised controlled median so you get halfway across the street and they’re
restriping it for the turn into the site so if anybody’s interested we’ll have those drawings out for
that meeting when we drive by there too. We’ll go over in a little bit more detail on the tour and
Jason’s coming on that one too so we’ll show you how that all works.
Skistad: Okay I’ve just seen, I mean just so you know I have seen a lot of comments,
community comments that are, people who are very concerned about that.
Aanenson: It’s good to know. We’re going to share that with the council. Yep.
Skistad: Yeah.
Aanenson: So that’s on our tour. I’m not sure where I left off. We do not have a meeting in two
weeks. It’s Night to Unite.
Walters: I think that’s what it’s called now.
Aanenson: So we encourage you to meet with your neighborhood and get to know and that sort
of thing so it used to be called National Night Out so we encourage you to do that. Typically we
don’t have a meeting. For some reason we didn’t have it blocked out in advance but there will
not be a meeting. But instead of that we’ve got a great tour the next night, on Wednesday night
so it’s all commission tour. City Council is also invited on that so we’ve got a bus. I’ve given
out the agenda so please let us know if you’re coming so we can plan it. I’ve heard from a
couple of you. If you can let Jean Steckling know so we’ll start here in the lower level of City
Hall. Again we’re going to go by the Venue and Aldi so we’ll have someone from the Venue to
talk about the rents. Who’s renting. A little bit more about that. The demographic and how
that’s going and then also someone from Aldi’s. Why they picked this site. How that’s all going
and then also we’ll talk about Applebee’s. We’ll have a big map showing how they’re going to
lay that out and then we’ll go by Arbor Glen. The small lot subdivision so I think that’s, why did
they pick that market. How do they think that’s doing. ...Crossing, the senior housing. We’ll
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also have the developer there to talk about that project. Hopefully we can get in on that project
but we can take a look around. But we also, that one is already has a sign up for it’s all rented.
130 units so we’ll again look at that demographic for where people are coming from which I
think we’d like to know a little bit too on the Venue and then our final stop will be at Greenwood
Shores Park and then we’ll walk into the park and we’ll talk a little bit about where we are in the
schedule, which you know but maybe some of the other groups don’t as far as you know the first
phase. It’s got 4 phases. This is phase 1. The 50 lots and then we’ll maybe have Jill talk a little
bit about with the Environmental Commission a little bit about the trees. Some of the natural
resources in there and then Hoisington-Koegler will be there to talk about the trail and how they
see that developing and time line and costs and some of those things too just for everybody’s
edification so hope you can all make it. It will be fun. It’s kind of good to just be collegiate with
some of the other commissioners and staff so that’s all I had Chair unless you had any questions
or anybody else does.
Weick: Any more questions? With that I will entertain a motion to adjourn.
McGonagill moved, Skistad seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in favor and the
motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0. The Planning Commission meeting was
adjourned at 8:20 p.m.
Submitted by Kate Aanenson
Community Development Director
Prepared by Nann Opheim
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
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Tuesday, August 20, 2019
Subject City Council Action Update
Section ADMINISTRATIVE
PRESENTATIONS
Item No: G.1.
Prepared By Jean Steckling, Senior Admin. Support
Specialist
File No:
ATTACHMENTS:
City Council Action Update
City Council Action Update
MONDAY, JULY 22, 2019
Lotus Woods: Approve Final Plat, Construction Plans and Development Contract - Approved
Approve Public Streets & Utilities in Anthem on the Park - Approved
MONDAY, AUGUST 12, 2019
Ordinance 644: Amending Chapter 9 (Fire Prevention and Protection) and Chapter 18
(Subdivisions) Concerning Adopting the Minnesota Fire Code; Revising the Fire Code Appeals
Process; Establishing Recreational Fire and Burn Permit Standards; and Adopting Design
Standards for Street and Fire Apparatus Access Roads - Approved
Consider a Conditional Use Permit and Site Plan Review Application for an Xcel Energy Meter
Reader Pole located at 2150 Lyman Boulevard - Approved
Approve Final Plat, Plans and Specifications and Development Contract for The Park 1st
Addition – Approved
Minutes for these meetings can be viewed and downloaded from the city’s website at
www.ci.chanhassen.mn.us, and click on “Agendas and Minutes” from the left-side links.
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Subject Star Tribune Article
Section ADMINISTRATIVE
PRESENTATIONS
Item No: G.2.
Prepared By Kate Aanenson, Community
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Ifyou had to name the Minnesota county recently called the hapPiest
and healt}iest in the United States - not to mention the best-educated
and wealthiest in the state - you might not immediately think of Cawer
County. Even ifyou live in Carv€r County.
The growth of manufacturing, tectrnology and other industries in Cawer
has moved well-paid employees to tJre southwest metro, said Todd
GraharrL the Metropolitan Council's principal forecaster. And the inllux
of well-heeled newcomers h"" inspired Caw€t's quiet communities to
serve up new attractions: wineries and brewpubs, an ax-tlrowing arcade,
a whiskey lounge and a museum about the world-famous musician who
Uved and worked in Chanhasssl
A national fnan.i'l website has iudged carver county the happiest in
tle corrntry for two years straiSt[ and among the top five for thre€ years
before that, based on residents' high participation in physicat activity
and low divorce rate-
U.S. Nefirs & world Rcport ranked Ca$er the eighth healthiest county
nationwide ttris year, noting it scored below national averages on
obesity, violent crime and exposure to unsafe drinking wat€r. And a data
analysis site last month rated Carver the most educated county in
Minnesota and in the top 2% nationally of 3,142 counti€s.
Health, education and happiness are higttly correlated with wealth,
studies show, and Carver is a leader in that category, too. Median
housetrold income, $93,100, is iust a shade below scott's $93200; the
median income for t}re s€\r€n-county metro area is fB'700.
Srouing past animal bams and com dog stands last week at the Cawer
County Fair in Waconia, some locals exlrressed surprise at t}te rankings.
But Cindy Worm, a lifelong county residmt, didn't need t}e numbers to
confrm that change has come to the largely aSriqitural metro-area
county whose population has more than tripled over her 53 years.
"It's am^zing," said worm, a waconia resident who grew up in victori2-
"It's nothing like what it used to look like."
Judging by Carver county's quality-of-life stats, the effort to balance
trendy with quaint has been largely successful, though some who
reasure nrra.l tranquility arent tlrilled about the hubbub'
when Worm was a kid, the family had to drive 16 mi.les to St. Louis Park
to shop at Targel Now tlere's a Target iust 6 miles away in Chanhassen'
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On the other hand, her family never worried about lodring their doors.
Now, with "so many more people you dont lioow" in the area, she keeps
the house locked even when she's at home.
'You rernernber those old days and you wish you'd cherished tlern more
than you did," Worm said.
Pushing outward
Carver is Minnesota's fastest-gro#ing county, according to the Met
Council. It counts 106,000 residents, up 16% since 2010 - a rate
comparable to hot spots suctl as Seattle and Denver, and hiSher than the
T\rrin Cities' growth rate for that period of about 9%.
In the last tlree decades, Chaska, the county seat and largest city, has
doubled its population to 28,000; same with chanhassen, the second-
largest city, which has 26,000 residents. Smaller towns on the county's
eastem side have ballooned even more dramatically; numb€rs in victoria
and Waconia have quadrupled, and the city of Carver has grown sixfold,
to more than 4,700.
The county got another boost in 2008, when commuting times to
Minneapolis were slashed with the opening of Hwy. 2f2, a four-lane, 6t
mph freeway connecting to maror metro.area highways.
'"Itle metro area has been pushing outward for half a century," said
Graham. "In the 1980s and even more so in the 1990s, the developed edge
ofthat area has pushed out to Carver County."
In recert years, large apartrnent proiects have drawn opposition in
victoria and Chaska- Residents have complained about pastoral views
being marred by new developments. But most s€ern accepting of ctnnge,
said County Administrator David Hemzg perhaps because tlree.quarters
ofthe corrnty is still farms and undeveloped land.
"we dont hear a lot of anti-growth feedbacls" Hemze said. '?art of that
is our zoning ordinances, whidr generally keep the growth within the
cities and keep the rural characteristics rura]."
Carver C-ounty has long ofrered good sctrools, parks and biking trails,
along with institutions of metrowide interest sudr as the Minnesota
Iandscape Arboretum, the Chanhassen Dinner Theatres and Hazeltine
National Golf CIub. Recent years have brought a Ilurry of smaller local
proiects and attractions.
Chaska opened its popular Curling Center in 2015 and is planning a
downtown square wittr shops, restaurants, a stage and 6re pits. In
Chanhass€n, Paisley Parlq Prince's onetime home and production
comple)i became a museum a-fter the stais 2016 death. Several wineries
have opened in Waconia, where a recent goundbreaking heralded the
expansion of a r€ional park
Victoria has spilfed up its downtown, restoring old buildings so they look
new and designing new buildings so they look old. A new attertainment
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cmter called Victoria Burrow offers ax-tlrowing, mini golf and arcade
g;ames. Leaders are discussing plans to e4)and ttle downtown into
undeveloped land with shops, restaurarts and housing.
A few years ago, longtime waconia restaurateurs Kim and Kevin Heenie
were encouraged to open an eatery in a former creamery in downtown
victoria- Windrester & Rye opened this year, a casually upscale
restaurant and whiskey lounge serving spirie made in Waconia- Kim
Heenie said she didnt think it would have worked before downtown's
makeover.
"I think [the city] has defmitely evolved," she said.
For longtime resident Mark Paslq Waconia is getting too big and busy. He
and his wife, Kathy, are considering looking for open space farther west.
"All around us, it's iust dosing in," Pask said. "Our litde cnl-desac here
used to be fields and birds. Now we\i/e got neighborhoods werywhere. ...
As the metro expands, you end up losing that small-town feel."
Carmen Gesinger grew up in Waconia, left for l0 years and then returned
to the city. She works for the Chamber of Commerce so she's not
impartial, but at the county fairgrounds last week she talked about
Iooking forward to the band playing at the Entertainrnent center and the
crowd of ftiends expected to gatier there as they had for years.
'It feels like - oh, what's the word I'm looking for?" Gesinger said. 'It
feels like home""
Klty Road is a repoater covering Carver Colnty and westem Hennepin County. She has also covered
aging, workplace issues and other topics icr the Star Tribune. She rrlas provirru3ly a aeporEr at the
Times-Picayune in New Orleans, La., and the Ouluth Ne,r6-Tribune.
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