03-4-98 Agenda and Packet C I TY 0 F PC DATE: 3/4/98
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CASE #: SP #98-1
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STAFF REPORT
PROPOSAL: Site plan review for a 9,582 square foot office building for a materials
testing and evaluation facility.
LOCATION: Lot 3, Block 1, Chanhassen Business Center 2"° Addition, 8330
Commerce Drive
0 APPLICANT: K& S Investments, LLC James A. Strapko
11415 Valley View Road 4157 Minnehaha Avenue
CL Eden Prairie. MN 55344 Minneapolis, MN 55406
CL 946-8700 729-4112
PRESENT ZONING: PUD, Planned Unit Development
ACREAGE: 1.8 acres
ADJACENT ZONING
AND LAND USE: N - A2, guided office/industrial
S- PUD. Technical Industrial Sales II
E - PUD, Power Systems
W- PUD, Construction Heaters
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QWATER AND SEWER: Available to the site.
W PHYSICAL CHARACTER: The site was mass graded as part of the development of the
Chanhassen Business Center and was used by the developer
F- for soil storage of excess material.
2000 LAND USE PLAN: Office/Industrial
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PROPOSAL/SUMMARY
The applicant is proposing a 9,582 square foot office building on Lot 3, Block 1, Chanhassen
Business Center 2nd Addition. There is a potential future building expansion area of 5,828 square
feet. The proposed building is one story with 16 feet to the top of the parapet wall. The building
HVAC will be screened on two sides with a pyramidal shaped metal wall, similar in color and
appearance to the entrance roof. The applicant is proposing rock face concrete block for exterior
finish, colored wheat(a medium tan with beige flecks), and accent bands of scored and burnished
concrete block in antique white (white with flecks of red, green, and tan). The north elevation is
not proposed to continue the architectural detailing due to the future expansion of the building.
The development incorporates a block face wing wall around a portion of the loading dock in the
northwest corner of the building to enclose and screen the site refuge containers. The rooftop
trim, scuppers, downspouts, metal roof, doors and railings are colored classic green (dark green).
Windows are clear anodized aluminum with clear glass.
The applicant is proposing the installation of 18 of the 43 parking spaces required by City Code.
If warranted by unique characteristics and/or documented parking demand for similar
developments, the city may allow the reduction in the number of parking spaces actually
constructed as long as the applicant provides a proof of future parking plan. The plan must show
the location for all minimum required parking spaces in conformance with applicable setback
requirements. The city may require the installation of the additional parking spaces whenever a
need arises (section 20-1124 (1) e.). Based on the information provided by the applicant, staff
believes that the amount of parking proposed for the first phase of the development is adequate to
fulfill their parking needs. Should parking become a problem, the city will order the installation
of additional parking spaces.
The applicant is proposing a wall sign and monument sign for the project. Both are permitted by
the sign requirements for Chanhassen Business Center. Staff has performed only a cursory
review of the sign plans submitted and determined that they generally comply with the
requirements. However, a separate sign permit application must be submitted and approved by
the city prior to the installation of any signs. The proposed wall mounted area lights must be
shielded from direct off-site view.
This parcel was previously used as a temporary stockpile area for the adjacent lot to the south.
According to the approved development plan for Chanhassen Business Center Second Addition,
the proposed grades of this lot range from 936 to 940. As a result of filling, the lot grades range
from 936 to 946. Typically, the first floor elevation of the building may be constructed up one to
two feet higher than the proposed lot grade without consequences. Grade deviations higher than
two feet above the approved grading plan may have repercussions on the adjacent parcels.
Although, in this case, both adjacent parcels have already been developed and by adjusting the
first floor elevation of this site to an elevation of 943 should not impose any problems. The first
floor elevation of the building to the east is 943 and the first floor elevation of the building to the
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west is 940.5. A first floor elevation of the building of 942 or 943 would fit in with the adjacent
parcels.
Staff is recommending approval of the proposed site plan subject to the conditions of the staff
report.
BACKGROUND
On April 10, 1995, the City Council approved the PUD amendment and preliminary plat of 7 lots
and one outlot for Chanhassen Business Center Second Addition. On April 24, 1995, the City
Council approved the final plat for the Chanhassen Business Center Second Addition. This
parcel represents the last lot in the Second Addition to be reviewed for site plan approval.
GENERAL SITE PLAN/ARCHITECTURE
DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS
a. Intent
The purpose of Chanhassen Business Center is to create a PUD light industrial/office park. The
use of the PUD zone is to allow for more flexible design standards while creating a higher quality
and more sensitive proposal. All utilities are required to be placed underground. Each lot
proposed for development shall proceed through site plan review based on the development
standards outlined below.
b. Permitted Uses
The permitted uses in this zone should be limited to light industrial, warehousing, and office as
defined below. The uses shall be limited to those as defined herein. If there is a question as to the
whether or not a use meets the definition, the City Council shall make that interpretation.
1. Light Industrial. The manufacturing, compounding, processing, assembling, packaging, or
testing of goods or equipment or research activities entirely within an enclosed structure,
with no outside storage. There shall be negligible impact upon the surrounding
environment by noise,vibration, smoke,dust or pollutants.
2. Warehousing. Means the commercial storage of merchandise and personal property.
3. Office. Professional and business office,non-retail activity.
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c. Setbacks
In the PUD standards, there is the requirement for landscape buffering in addition to building and
parking setbacks. The landscape buffer on Audubon Road is 50 feet, south of Lake Drive and
100 feet along the southern property line. The PUD zone requires a building to be setback 50
feet from the required landscape buffer and public right-of-ways. There is no minimum
requirement for setbacks on interior lot lines.
The following setbacks shall apply:
Building Parking
Audubon Road Buffer& Setback 50'plus 50' 50' plus 10'
South Property Line& Setback 100" plus 50' 100' plus 10'
Front & Rear ROW on Lake Drive 25' 15'
Interior Side Lot Line 10' 10'
Railroad Right of Way 30' 30'
Audubon Road north of Lake Drive 50' 20'
d. Development Standards Tabulation Box
Chanhassen Business Center Second Addition
Lot Size-Acres Building Sq. Ft. Building Impervious
Lot # Coverage
1 3.56 40,000 26% 67%
2 1.55 17,000 26% 65%
3 1.81 19,000 24% 63%
4 2.68 34,000 29% 76%
5 2.42 29,000 28% 72%
6 2.74 27,000 23% 59%
7 2.16 26,000 28% 72%
Road 1.60 67%
Subtotal 18.52 192,000 26% 68%
TOTAL 93.02 603,500 23% 60%
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The average hard surface coverage does not include Outlot A. The PUD standard for hard
surface coverage is 70% for office and industrial uses. The proposed development meets this
standard with an average of 62%hard surface coverage.
Building Square Footage Breakdown
Office 20% 120,700 sq. ft.
Manufacturing 25% 150,875 sq. ft.
Warehouse 54.09% 326,425 sq. ft.
Church 0.91% 5,500 sq. ft.
Total 100% 603,500 sq. ft.
e. Building Materials and Design
1. The PUD requires that the development demonstrate a higher quality of architectural
standards and site design. All mechanical equipment shall be screened with material
compatible to the building.
2. All materials shall be of high quality and durable. Masonry material shall be used. Color
shall be introduced through colored block or panels and not painted block.
3. Brick may be used and must be approved to assure uniformity.
4. Block shall have a weathered face or be polished, fluted,or broken face.
5. Concrete may be poured in place, tilt-up or pre-cast, and shall be finished in stone, textured
or coated.
6. Metal siding will not be approved except as support material to one of the above materials
or curtain wall on office components or, as trim or as HVAC screen.
7. All accessory structures shall be designed to be compatible with the primary structure.
8. All roof mounted equipment shall be screened by walls of compatible appearing material.
Wood screen fences are prohibited. All exterior process machinery, tanks, etc., are to be
fully screened by compatible materials.
9. The use of large unadorned, prestressed concrete panels and concrete block shall be
prohibited. Acceptable materials will incorporate textured surfaces, exposed aggregate
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and/or other patterning. All walls shall be given added architectural interest through
building design or appropriate landscaping.
10. Space for recycling shall be provided in the interior of all principal structures for all
developments in the Business Center.
f. Site Landscaping and Screening
1. All buffer landscaping, including boulevard landscaping, included in Phase I area to be
installed when the grading of the phase is completed. This may well result in landscaping
being required ahead of individual site plan approvals but we believe the buffer yard and
plantings, in particular, need to be established immediately. In addition, to adhere to the
higher quality of development as spelled out in the PUD zone, all loading areas shall be
screened. Each lot for development shall submit a separate landscaping plan as a part of
the site plan review process.
2. All open spaces and non-parking lot surfaces shall be landscaped, rockscaped, or covered
with plantings and/or lawn material.
3. Storage of material outdoors is prohibited unless it has been approved under site plan
review. All approved outdoor storage must be screened with masonry fences and/or
landscaping.
3. The master landscape plan for the CBC PUD shall be the design guide for all of the
specific site landscape developments. Each lot must present a landscape plan for
approval with the site plan review process.
4. Undulating or angular berms 3' to 4' in height, south of Lake Drive along Audubon Road
shall be sodded or seeded at the conclusion of Phase I grading and utility construction. The
required buffer landscaping may be installed incrementally, but it shall be required where it
is deemed necessary to screen any proposed development. All required boulevard
landscaping shall be sodded.
5. Loading areas shall be screened from public right-of-ways. Wing wall may be required
where deemed appropriate.
g. Signage
1. All freestanding signs be limited to monument signs. The sign shall not exceed eighty
(80) square feet in sign display area nor be greater than eight(8) feet in height. The sign
treatment is an element of the architecture and thus should reflect with the quality of the
development. The signs should be consistent in color, size, and material throughout the
development. The applicant should submit a sign package for staff review.
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2. Each property shall be allowed one monument sign located near the driveway into the
private site. All signs require a separate permit.
3. The signage will have consistency throughout the development. A common theme will
be introduced at the development's entrance monument and will be used throughout.
4. Consistency in signage shall relate to color, size, materials, and heights.
h. Lighting
1. Lighting for the interior of the business center should be consistent throughout the
development. The applicant's proposal is consistent with the lighting standards for the
PUD ordinance. The plans do not provide for street lighting. As with previous industrial
parks/roadways, the City has required the developer to install street lights throughout the
street system. The street lights should be designed consistent with the existing lighting
along Audubon Road.
2. A decorative, shoe box fixture (high pressure sodium vapor lamps) with a square
ornamental pole shall be used throughout the development area for area lighting.
3 Lighting equipment similar to what is mounted in the public street right-of-ways shall be
used in the private areas.
4. All light fixtures shall be shielded. Light level for site lighting shall be no more than 1/2
candle at the property line. This does not apply to street lighting.
LANDSCAPING
No tree removal is necessary for the site. Existing trees include boulevard trees along Commerce
Drive planted by the developer. These trees are to remain on site as is and be incorporated into
the applicant's proposed landscape plan.
By ordinance, the applicant is required to provide the following: 6 overstory trees along the
boulevard, 1,157 sq. ft. of landscape area and 5 trees within the parking area. According to
submitted landscape plan and count of existing trees, the applicant meets the landscape area and
parking requirements.
The rear of the building faces the Bluff Creek corridor and Creekside development. To capitalize
on the proximity to the creek and provide softened views from the neighborhood, staff
recommends the applicant plant the rear 70 or so feet with native vegetation. Grasses,
wildflowers, shrubs and trees could be easily incorporated into the area. It would save
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maintenance expenses for the proposed business and promote plant and animal diversity without
compromising use of the site.
GRADING
This parcel was previously used as a temporary stockpile area for the adjacent lot to the south.
The property owner received a grading permit from the City to temporary stockpile dirt generated
from construction of the development to the south. The intent was for the material to be removed
in the future when development occurred. According to the approved development plan for
Chanhassen Business Center Second Addition, the proposed grades of this lot range from 936 to
940. As a result of filling, the lot grades range from 936 to 946. Typically, the first floor
elevation of the building maybe constructed up one to two feet higher than the proposed lot grade
without consequences. Grade deviations higher than two feet above the approved grading plan
may have repercussions on the adjacent parcels. Although, in this case, both adjacent parcels
have already been developed and by adjusting the first floor elevation of this site to an elevation
of 943 should not impose any problems. The first floor elevation of the building to the east is
943 and the first floor elevation of the building to the west is 940.5. A first floor elevation of the
building of 942 or 943 would fit in with the adjacent parcels. The applicant desires to keep the
building as high as possible to save on the cost of exporting the material. Staff anticipates 5,000
to 7,000 cubic yards of material will be removed from the site in conjunction with development.
The applicant will need to supply the City with a traffic signage plan, haul route, and location
where the material will be deposited for review and approval prior to issuance of a building
permit. The applicant should be aware that if material is to be exported somewhere else within
the City of Chanhassen, the property owner must receive a grading permit through the City.
The applicant has submitted a proposed revised grading plan for the site. While the city cannot
permit the floor elevation to be raised to 944 as proposed, we can work with the applicant to
incorporate berming on site to reduce the amount of export required to develop the site.
Staff has received a comment from the property owner to the east with regards to a drainage
problem on their property as a result of the stockpile. They are requesting the City to address the
issue with this development. Staff believes that with the development of this site any drainage
issues will be resolved once the final grade is completed.
EROSION CONTROL
The plans propose some erosion control fence during construction. Staff believes the erosion
control fence needs to encompass the entire grading limits since the property sheet drains in
every direction. Erosion control fence must be maintained until the site is fully revegetated and
erosion control measures are authorized to be removed by the City. In addition, a rock
construction entrance needs to be employed at the access point off Commerce Drive. The
proposed catch basins will also need to be protected with silt fence, hay bales, and/or rock filter
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dike until the parking lot has been paved with bituminous. These revisions should be shown on
the final grading plan for staff review and approval.
DRAINAGE
The plans propose on conveying surface water runoff from the site into the city's storm sewer
system which lies along the westerly property line. Two storm sewer lines will be extended from
the existing storm sewer to convey runoff to the regional storm water pond for pretreatment. The
proposed connection points to the City's storm sewer system will need to be revised. The plans
propose connections where there are no existing manholes. The applicant has the option to
construct their own storm sewer manholes or relocate the connection points to existing manhole
locations. From an economic standpoint, staff believes the applicant would prefer to connect into
existing manhole structures.
Detailed storm sewer calculations and drainage map for a 10- and 100-year storm event (24-hour
duration) shall be supplied to the City for review and approval prior to issuance of the building
permit.
UTILITIES
Municipal sewer and water service is available to the site from Commerce Drive. The applicant
will be responsible for obtaining the necessary building permits.
STREETS
One access point is proposed off of Commerce Drive to facilitate the site. Upon review of the
parking lot configuration, it appears the drive aisle widths are too narrow. According to City
Code Section 20-1101 and 20-1118, two way drive aisles shall be 26 feet wide. The minimum
drive aisle width for one-way is 20 feet. The plans propose a 15-foot wide service alley on the
west side of the building and 24-foot wide drive aisles around the south and east side of the
building. These drive aisles will need to be increased to meet City Code requirements.
MISCELLANEOUS
Accessibility. The Uniform Building Code adopts the CABO/ASI A117.1-1992 (C/A) as the
standard regulating accessible buildings and facilities. C/A 4.6.4 requires a van accessible space to
have an 8' wide access aisle. One van accessible space is required in accordance with UBC 1107
(in appendix chapter 11). Minnesota State Building Code 1340.1120 Subp. 2 amends C/A 4.6.4 by
requiring a"no parking access aisle"sign at the head of the access aisle. These requirements should
be incorporated into the Site Improvement Plan.
Permit requirements. Plans are often bid before the City building code plan review, making
changes necessary for code compliance difficult and expensive to incorporate later. Accordingly, I
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would like to request that you relay to the developers and designers my desire to meet with them as
early as possible to discuss commercial building permit requirements and the code review process.
PARKS & RECREATION
The proposed development shall pay park and trail fees pursuant to City Ordinance.
SITE PLAN FINDINGS
In evaluating a site plan and building plan, the city shall consider the development's compliance
with the following:
(1) Consistency with the elements and objectives of the city's development guides,
including the comprehensive plan, official road mapping, and other plans that may
be adopted;
(2) Consistency with this division;
(3) Preservation of the site in its natural state to the extent practicable by minimizing
tree and soil removal and designing grade changes to be in keeping with the
general appearance of the neighboring developed or developing or developing
areas;
(4) Creation of a harmonious relationship of building and open space with natural site
features and with existing and future buildings having a visual relationship to the
development;
(5) Creation of functional and harmonious design for structures and site features, with
special attention to the following:
a. An internal sense of order for the buildings and use on the site and
provision of a desirable environment for occupants, visitors and general
community;
b. The amount and location of open space and landscaping;
c. Materials, textures, colors and details of construction as an expression of
the design concept and the compatibility of the same with adjacent and
neighboring structures and uses; and
d. Vehicular and pedestrian circulation, including walkways, interior drives
and parking in terms of location and number of access points to the public
streets, width of interior drives and access points, general interior
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circulation, separation of pedestrian and vehicular traffic and arrangement
and amount of parking.
(6) Protection of adjacent and neighboring properties through reasonable provision
for surface water drainage, sound and sight buffers, preservation of views, light
and air and those aspects of design not adequately covered by other regulations
which may have substantial effects on neighboring land uses.
Finding: The proposed development complies with all requires of city code and the
design standards established for this development. The proposed development is well
designed and should compliment the existing development within the industrial park.
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission adopt the following motion:
"The Planning Commission recommends approval of site plan#98-1 for a 9,582 square foot
building on Lot 3, Block 1, Chanhassen Business Center 2nd Addition, site plan prepared by
Strapko, Pahl & Associates, LTD, dated 1/30/98, subject to the following conditions:
1. The applicant shall enter into a site plan agreement with the city and provide the necessary
security as required by the agreement.
2. A separate sign permit application must be submitted and approved by the city prior to the
installation of any signs.
3. The development must comply with the Design Standards established for Chanhassen
Business Center.
4. The city may require the installation of the additional parking spaces whenever a need arises
(section 20-1124 (1) e.) upon written notification of the developer and/or property owner.
5. Existing trees shall be protected by tree fencing during construction.
6. The applicant shall work with staff to incorporate native vegetation in the rear 70 feet of the
lot.
7. Fire Marshal's conditions:
a. An additional fire hydrant will be required. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for
exact location.
b. Post indicator valve (PIV) will be required. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for
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exact location.
c. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding notes to be included
on all site plans. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy#
04-1991. (Copy enclosed.)
d. No parking fire lane signs will be required. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for
exact location. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy# 06-
1991. (Copy enclosed.)
e. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding pre-fire plans.
Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy# 07-1991. (Copy
enclosed.)
f. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding premise
identification. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy#29-
1992. (Copy enclosed.)
g. Contractor must comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding water
service installation for commercial and industrial buildings. Pursuant to Inspection
Division Water Service Installation Policy#34-1993. (Copy enclosed.)
h. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding maximum allowable
size of domestic water service on a combination domestic fire sprinkler service line.
Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy#36-1994. (Copy
enclosed.)
i. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding fire hydrant
installation. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy#47-
1998. (Copy enclosed.)
8. Revise the parking on the Site Improvement Plan to comply with the building code.
9. Meet with the Inspections Division plan reviewer as soon as possible after approval to begin the
building code plan review process.
10. First floor elevation for the building shall not exceed 943.0.
11. The applicant will need to supply the City with the traffic signage plan, haul route, and
location where the material is to be deposited for review and approval prior to issuance of a
building permit. If the materials are to be exported somewhere else within the City of
Chanhassen, that property owner must receive a grading permit through the City.
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12. The applicant shall work with the City in resolving the existing drainage problem along the
easterly property line prior to issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy.
13. Grading plan shall be revised to include erosion control measures such as silt fence
encompassing the grading construction limits and addition of a rock construction entrance off
of Commerce Drive. In addition, the proposed catch basins will need to be protected with silt
fence, hay bales, and/or rock filter dike until the parking lot has been paved with a
bituminous surface.
14. The storm sewer connection points should be revised and relocated to the City's existing
storm sewer manhole. The applicant has the option to construct their own storm sewer
manholes or relocate connection points to existing manhole locations.
15. The applicant shall supply the City with detailed storm sewer calculations and drainage maps
for a 10- and 100-year storm event (24-hour duration) for review and approval prior to
issuance of a building permit.
16. Drive aisles shall be revised to be in conformance with City Code Section 20-1101 and
Section 20-1118. This will require increased drive aisle widths throughout the site.
17. No berming or landscaping will be allowed within city right-of-way. Landscape materials
may not be placed within drainage swales or over utility lines. The applicant may place
landscape material within the City's drainage and utility easement conditioned upon the
applicant entering into an encroachment agreement with the City.
18. All utility improvements shall be constructed in accordance with the City's latest edition of
Standard Specifications and Detail Plates and/or state plumbing codes. The utilities will be
inspected by the City's Building Department. The applicant and/or builder shall be
responsible for obtaining the necessary permits from the City.
19. The developer and/or his assignee shall review the site conditions prior to construction
commencing for existing problems to utilities or streets and notify the City accordingly.
Once construction activities commence on the site, the developer will assume all
responsibility of damage to public utilities and streets as a result of construction activities.
20. The applicant shall work with city staff to determine the exact locations, shapes and
permitted heights of any berming on site.
21. The proposed development shall pay park and trail fees pursuant to City Ordinance."
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ATTACHMENTS
1. Development Review Application
2. Reduced Copy Site Improvement Plan
3. Proof of Parking Statement
4. Proposed Revision to Grading Plan
5. Rooftop Screening
6. Memo from Mark Littfin to Robert Generous dated 2/17/98
7. Public Hearing Notice and Mailing List
CITY OF CHANHASSEN RECENr
690 COULTER DRIVE
CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 JAN 2 9 1, "
(612) 937-1900
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATION CM OF eh"
APPLICANT: ‘\Ar t A. �} r-�lpl�0 Qrctnt*tCt OWNER: 1<4nvestmeAtc71 LLC.
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Comprehensive Plan Amendment
Temporary Sales Permit
Conditional Use Permit _ Vacation of ROW/Easements
Interim Use Permit Variance
Non-conforming Use Permit — Wetland Alteration Permit
Planned Unit Development* Zoning Appeal
Rezoning _ Zoning Ordinance Amendment
Sign Permits
Sign Plan Review X Notification Sign 4 1 SO
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PLEASE PRovttE Pfzo?. OWNteRco LT
' A list of all property owners within 500 feet of the boundaries of the property must be included with the
application.
Building material samples must be submitted with site plan reviews.
'Twenty-six full size folded copies of the plans must be submitted, including an 81/2" X 11" reduced copy of
transparency for each plan sheet.
"Escrow will be required for other applications through the development contract
NOTE-When multiple applications are processed, the appropriate fee shall be charged for each application.
PROJECT NAME Mfieckv untiokr) cvc1Te .k\nc F C:ast
LOCATION Cvlo.v0\GSSen bu'irle, C_en.ter, e(50 Commerce Div.
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WETLANDS PRESENT YES X NO
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This application must be completed in full and be typewritten or clearly printed and must be accompanied by all information
and plans required by applicable City Ordinance provisions. Before filing this application, you should confer with the Planning
Department to determine the specific ordinance and procedural requirements applicable to your application.
A determination of completeness of the application shall be made within ten business days of application submittal. A written
notice of application deficiencies shall be mailed to the applicant within ten business days of application.
This is to certify that 1 am making application for the described action by the City and that I am responsible for complying with
all City requirements with regard to this request. This application should be processed in my name and I am the party whom
the City should contact regarding any matter pertaining to this application. I have attached a copy of proof of ownership (either
copy of Owner's Duplicate Certificate of Title, Abstract of Title or purchase agreement), or I am the authorized person to make
this application and the fee owner has also signed this application.
I will keep myself informed of the deadlines for submission of material and the progress of this application. I further
understand that additional fees may be charged for consulting fees, feasibility studies, etc. with an estimate prior to any
authorization to proceed with the study. The documents and information I have submitted are true and correct to the best of
my knowledge.
The city hereby notifies the applicant that development review cannot be completed within 60 days due to public hearing
requirements and agency review. Therefore, the city is notifying the applicant that the city requires an automatic 60 day
extension for development review. Development review shall be completed within 120 days unless additional review
extensions are approved by the applicant.
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Signature of Fee Owner Date
Application Received on Pi/c15'.; Fee Paid C-' , Receipt No. 3
The applicant should contact staff for a copy of the staff report which will be available on Friday prior to the meeting.
If not contacted, a copy of the report will be mailed to the applicant's address.
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Proof of Parking Statement - - -,
To: Robert E.Generous, AICP
Senior Planner
City of Chanhassen
Project: Materials Evaluation and Engineering Facility
K&S Investments, LLC
Chanhassen Business Center
8330 Commerce Drive
Applicant: James A.Strapko, Architect
Date: 01-30-98
Required parking: 4.5 x 9.58 =43 spaces
Proposed parking: 18 spaces
The owner/occupant of this proposed materials evaluation and engineering facility requests permission to construct
fewer parking spaces than the zoning ordinance requires. Sufficient additional parking spaces are possible, and
these have been illustrated on the site plan submitted for review. The number of staff needed to operate this kind of
facility is very low relative to the floor area of the building. Engineers and technical staff occupy the testing rooms
and also need private offices to analyze and discuss their results with clients.
-Currently, the owner occupies approximately 6000 nsf with a staff of 8.
-The proposed building is approximately 9000 nsf with a staff of 10 to 11.
-Visitors vehicles do not exceed 3 during a typical business day.
-Spaces needed for front door deliveries do not exceed 1 during a typical business day.
-Spaces required for HC: 1 van accessible.
Summarizing, the owner/occupant estimates a need for 11 +3+1 +1 HC=16 spaces and is proposing to build 18.
If it is found that more spaces are needed, these can be added in small groups. The site plan shows the potential for
additional spaces including relatively large landscaped peninsulas, designed to coordinate with parking spaces and
peninsulas currently proposed.
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
690 City Center Drive,PO Box 147
Chanhassen,Minnesota 55317
Phone 612.937.1900
General Fax 612.9375739 MEMORANDUM
Engineering Fax 612.9379152
Public Safety Fax 612.934.2524 TO: Robert Generous, Senior Planner
Web www.ci.chanhassen.mn.us
FROM: Mark Littfin, Fire Marshal
DATE: February 17, 1998
SUBJ: Request for site plan review for a 9,582 square foot facility located on a
1.8 parcel - Lot 3, Block 1,Chanhassen Business Center 2"Addition,
for a materials evaluation and engineering facility, K F Investments,
LLC. Planning Case#98-1 Site Plan.
I have reviewed the site plan for the above project. In order to comply with the
Chanhassen Fire Department Fire Prevention Division, I have the following fire code or
city ordinance/policy requirements. The site plan is based on the available information
submitted at this time. If additional plans or changes are submitted the appropriate code
or policy items will be addressed.
1. An additional fire hydrant will be required. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for
exact location.
2. Post indicator valve(PIV)will be required. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for
exact location.
3. comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding notes to be included on
all site plans. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy# 04-
1991. (Copy enclosed.)
4. No parking fire lane signs will be required. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for
exact location. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy# 06-
1991. (Copy enclosed.)
5. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding pre-fire plans. Pursuant
to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy# 07-1991. (Copy enclosed.)
The City of Chanhassen.A growing community with clean Likes,quality schools,a charming downtown,thriving businesses,and beautifisl parks.A great place to lire,work,and play:
Robert Generous
February 17, 1998
Page 2
6. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding premise identification.
Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy#29-1992. (Copy
enclosed.)
7. Contractor must comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding water
service installation for commercial and industrial buildings. Pursuant to Inspection
Division Water Service Installation Policy#34-1993. (Copy enclosed.)
8. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding maximum allowable size
of domestic water service on a combination domestic fire sprinkler service line.
Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy#36-1994. (Copy
enclosed.)
9. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding fire hydrant installation.
Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy#47-1998. (Copy
enclosed.)
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CITY OF
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CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
�-r (612) 937-1900 • FAX (612) 937-5739
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT NOTES TO BE INCLUDED ON ALL SITE PLANS
1. Fire Marshal must witness the flushing of underground sprinkler service line, per
NFPA 13-8-2.1.
2. A final inspection by the Fire Marshal before a Certificate of Occupancy is issued.
3. Fire Department access roads shall be provided on site during all phases of
construction. The construction of these temporary roads will conform with the
Chanhassen Fire Department requirements for temporary access roads at
construction sites. Details are available.
4. Onsite fire hydrants shall be provided and in operating condition during all phases
of construction.
5. The use of liquefied petroleum eas shall be in conformance with NFPA Standard
58 and the Minnesota Uniform Fire Code. A list of these requirements is
available. (See policy #33-1993)
6. All fire detection and fire suppression systems shall be monitored by an approved
UL central station with a UL 71 Certificate issued on these systems before final
occupancy is issued.
7. An 11" x 14" As Built shall be provided to the Fire Department. The As Built
shall be reproducible and acceptable to the Fire Marshal. (See policy #07-1991).
8. An approved lock box shall be provided on the building for fire department use.
The lock box should be located by the Fire Department connection or as located
by the Fire Marshal.
Chanhassen Fire Department
Fire Prevention
Policy #04-1991
Date: 11/22/91
Revised: 12/23/94
Page 1 of 2
9. High-piled combustible storage shall comply with the requirements of Article #81
of the Minnesota Uniform Fire Code. High-piled combustible storage is
combustible materials on closely packed piles more than 15' in height or
combustible materials on pallets or in racks more than 12' in height. For certain
special-hazard commodities such as rubber tires, plastics, some flammable liquids,
idle pallets, etc. the critical pile height may be as low as 6 feet.
10. Fire lane signage shall be provided as required by the Fire Marshal. (See policy
#06-1991).
11. Smoke detectors installed in lieu of 1 hour rated corridors under UBC section
3305G, Exception#5 shall comply with Chanhassen Fire Department requirements
for installation and system type. (See policy #05-1991).
12. Maximum allowed size of domestic water service on a combination domestic/fire
sprinkler supply line policy must be followed. (See policy #36-1994).
Chanhassen Fire Department
Fire Prevention
Policy #04-1991
r- Date: 11/22/91
. c. � Revised: 12/23/94
Approved - Public Safety Director Page 2 of 2
CITY OF
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CHAIIIIASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN. MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900 • FAX (612) 937-5739
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY
REQUIREMENTS FOR FIRE LANE SIGNAGE
1 . Signs to be a minimum of 12" x 18" .
NO 2 . Red on white is preferred.
PARKING
FIRE 3 . 3M or equal engineer ' s grade
LANE reflective sheeting on aluminum
is preferred.
/\ 4 . Wording shall be: NO PARKING
FIRE LANE
5 . Signs shall be posted at each end
of the fire lane and at least at
7 ' 0" 75 foot intervals along the
fire lane.
6 . All signs shall be double sided
facing the direction of travel.
7 . Post shall be set back a
minimum of 12" but not more than
36" from the curb.
- - 8 . A fire lane shall be required in
(NOT TO GRADE front of fire dept. connections
SCALE) extending 5 feet on each side and
along all areas designated by the
Fire Chief.
ANY DEVIATION FROM THE ABOVE PROCEDURES SHALL BE SUBMITTED IN
WRITING, WITH A SITE PLAN, FOR APPROVAL BY THE FIRE CHIEF. IT IS
THE INTENTION OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE CONTINUITY
THROUGHOUT THE CITY BY PROVIDING THESE PROCEDURES FOR MARKING OF
FIRE LANES.
Chanhassen Fire Department
Fire Prevention
/r--- / Policy #06-1991
/ Date: 1/15/91
G,%'` 77..,-------__ Revised:
Approved - Public Safety Director Page 1 of 1
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=Or PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER
CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900 • FAX (612) 937-5739
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CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT
POLICY REGARDING PRE-PLAN
Prior to issuing the C .O. , a pre-plan, site plan shall be submitted
to the Fire Department for approval . The following items shall be
shown on the plan.
2) Building footprint and building dimensions
3 ) Fire lanes and width of fire lanes
4) Water mains and their sizes, indicate looped or dead end
5) Fire hydrant locations
6) P . I .V. - Fire Department connection
7) Gas meter (shut-off) , NSP (shut off)
8) Lock box location
9) Fire walls, if applicable
10) Roof vents, if applicable
11) Interior walls
12) Exterior doors
13 ) Location of fire alarm panel
14) Sprinkler riser location
15) Exterior L. P. storage, if applicable
16) Haz . Mat . storage, if applicable
17) Underground storage tanks locations, if applicable
18) Type of construction walls/roof
19) Standpipes
PLEASE NOTE : Plans with topographical information, contour lines,
easement lines, property lines, setbacks, right-of-way lines,
headings, and other related lines or markings, are not acceptable,
and will be rejected.
Chanhassen Fire Department
Fire Prevention
Policy #07-1991
Date : 01/16/91
Revised: 02/18/94
Approved - Public Safety Director Page 1 of 1
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CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY
PREMISES IDENTIFICATION
General
Numbers or addresses shall be placed on all new and existing
buildings in such a position as to be plainly visible and legible
from the street or road fronting the property. Said numbers shall
contrast with their background. Size and location of numbers shall
be approved by one of the following - Public Safety Director,
Building Official, Building Inspector, Fire Marshal.
Requirements are for new construction and existing buildings where
no address numbers are posted.
Other Requirements-General
1. Numbers shall be a contrasting color from the background.
2. Numbers shall not be In script
3. If a structure Is not visible from the street,additional numbers are required at the driveway entrance. Size
and location must be approved. -
4. Numbers on mail box at driveway entrance may be a minimum of 4". However,requirement*3 must still
be met
5. Administrative authority may require additional numbers if deemed necessary.
Residential Requirements(2 or less dwelling unit?
1. Minimum height shall be 5 1/4".
2. Building permits will not be finaled unless numbers are posted and approved by the Building Department
Commercial Requirements
1. Minimum height shall be 12".
2. Strip Malls
a. Multi tenant building will have minimum height requirements of 6".
b. Address numbers shall be on the main entrance and on all back doors.
3. If address numbers are located on a directory entry sign, additional numbers will be required on the
buildings main entrance.
:-?1 Chanhassen Fire Department
Fire Prevention
Policy #29-1992
/ Date: 06/15/92
Revised:
Approved — Public Saiity Director Page 1 of 1
. PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER
CITY OF
CHANEASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900 • FAX (612) 937-5739
WATER SERVICE INSTALLATION POLICY
FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS
1) The Inspections Division shall be responsible for issuance of permits. No permit
shall be issued until approval of plans have been obtained from the following:
a) Engineering Department
b) Fire Marshal
c) Minnesota Department of Health
d) Plumbing. Inspector
2) Plumbing inspectors will do all installation inspections and witness the hydrostatic
and conductivity tests.
Inspection and Test Requirements
a) All pipe shall be inspected before being covered. Phone 937-1900,
ext. 31. to schedule inspections. A 24 hour notice is required.
b) Conductivity test is required. The pipe shall be subjected to a minimum
350 amp test for a period of not less than 5 minutes.
c) Hydrostatic test required. All pipe shall be subjected to a hydrostatic
pressure of 150 psi for 2 hours. Allowable pressure drop shall not exceed
1 PSI.
d) Pipe shall not be run under buildings - NFPA 248-3.1.
3) Upon approval of the hydro test, the plumbing inspector shall submit a copy of
the inspection report to the utility superintendent. The inspection report shall note
whether the system is ready for main flush and drawing of water sample for the
bug test.
Inspections Division
Water Service Installation
Policy #34-1993
Date: 04/15/93
Revised: 4/17/96
Page 1 of 2
CITY OF
\N CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900 • FAX (612) 937-5739
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY
MAXIMUM ALLOWED SIZE OF DOMESTIC WATER SERVICE ON A
COMBINATION DOMESTIC/FIRE SPRINKLER SUPPLY LINE
1. Domestic water line shall not be greater than 1/4 pipe size of the
combination service water supply line.
2. 1 1/2"domestic off 6"line.
3. 2"domestic off 8" line.
4. 2 1/2 domestic off 10"line.
Option 1: Domestic sizes may be increased if it can be calculated hydraulically that the
demand by all domestic fixtures will not drop the fire sprinkler water below its
minimum gallonage required.
Option 2: Combination domestic and five line service shall have an electric solenoid valve
installed on the domestic side of the service. This valve shall be normally
powered open and close on loss of electric power or signal from the system
water flow indicator.
Must be approved by the Chanhassen Fire Marshal and Chanhassen
Mechanical Inspector.
Chanhassen Fire Department
Water Line Sizing
Policy#36-1994
Date: 06/10/94
LL? 7 I Revised:
Approved - Public Safety Director Page 1 of 1
CITY of
CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN. MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900 • FAX (612) 937-5739
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY
FIRE HYDRANT INSTALLATION
The following, items are procedures for installation, testing, and putting into service new or
relocated fire hydrants:
1. Immediately after installing or relocating a fire hydrant, it must be securely covered by the
contractor with a plastic bag to indicate it is "out of service". The plastic baa may only be
removed for testing of the fire hydrant by city employees.
2. Upon approval of all testing (hydro, bacteria. flush and conductivity) and city acceptance, the
Chanhassen Utility Department will open the gate valve, remove the plastic bag and flush the
hydrant.
**PLEASE NOTE: The Utility Department requires a 48 hour advance notice to schedule
turning on or off water lines and performing tests.
3. Only at this point will the hydrant be considered ready for Fire Department operation.
Chanhassen Fire Department
Fire Hydrant Installation
Policy ,'447-1998
Date: c /23/98
Revised:
Approved - Public Safety Director Page 1 of 1
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NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
PLANNING COMMISSION
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Wednesday, March 4, 1998 at 7:00 p.m. =�
City Hall Council Chambers
690 City Center Drive ■
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APPLICANT: K & S Investments ' Ana��
LOCATION: West of Audubon Road, 1. wait]C
north of Lake Drive West Vi a �� �.I'►�
on Commerce Drive _``„io _,.0 J
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NOTICE: You are invited to attend a public hearing about a proposal in your area. The
applicant, K & S Investments, is requesting site plan approval for a 9,582 square foot office
facility on a 1 .8 acre parcel, Lot 3, Block 1, Chanhassen Business Center 2nd Addition, for
a materials evaluation and engineering facility. The property is zoned PUD, Planned Unit
Development for an industrial office park, and located west of Audubon Road and north of
Lake Drive West on Commerce Drive.
What Happens at the Meeting: The purpose of this public hearing is to inform you about the
developer's request and to obtain input from the neighborhood about this project. During the
meeting, the Commission Chair will lead the public hearing through the following steps:
1 . Staff will give an overview of the proposed project.
2. The Developer will present plans on the project.
3. Comments are received from the public.
4. Public hearing is closed and the Commission discusses project. The commission will then
make a recommendation to the City Council.
Questions and Comments: If you want to see the plans before the meeting, please stop by City
Hall during office hours, 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., Monday through Friday. If you wish to talk to
someone about this project, please contact Bob at 937-1900 ext. 141. If you choose to
submit written comments, it is helpful to have one copy to the department in advance of the meeting.
Staff will provide copies to the Commission.
Notice of this public hearing has been published in the Chanhassen Villager on February 19, 1998.
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OSMONICS. INC.
5951 CLEARWATER DRIVE
MINNETONKA, MN 55343
AUDUBON 92, A MN PTNRSHP
36 SOUTH 9TH STREET
MINNEAPOLIS. MN 55402
RAYMOND COLLINGS
PO BOX 879 1480 PARK ROAD
CHANHASSEN, MN 55317
DAVID OBEE
2060 MAJESTIC WAY
CHANHASSEN, MN 55317
K 8 S INVESTMENTS, LLC
11415 VALLEY VIEW ROAD
EDEN PRAIRIE, MN 55344
POWERS SYSTEMS
8325 COMMERCE DRIVE
CHANHASSEN, MN 55317
HERAKLES. LLC
8345 COMMERCE DRIVE
CHANHASSEN. MN 55317
PAULSTARR ENTERPRISES, INC.
1660 LAKE DRIVE WEST
CHANHASSEN, MN 55317
PAULSTARR ENTERPRISES INC.
8365 COMMERCE DRIVE
CHANHASSEN, MN 55317
FILE
AGENDA
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 4, 1998 at 7:00 P.M.
CHANHASSEN CITY HALL, 690 COULTER DRIVE
CALL TO ORDER
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. Request for preliminary plat approval to replat 39.5 acres into 4 lots; site plan approval for
two 75,000 sq. ft. office industrial buildings and a 77,700 sq. ft. office industrial building
and vacation of drainage easements on property zoned IOP, Industrial Office Park and
located south of Hwy. 5, west of Dell Road and south of Lake Drive East, Chanhassen
Pointe Business Center, Welsh Construction Corp.
2. Request for a site plan review for a 9,582 square foot office facility on an 1.8 acre parcel -
Lot 3, Block 1, Chanhassen Business Center 2nd Addition, for a materials evaluation and
engineering facility, K& S Investments,LLC.
3. The purpose of this hearing is to consider an amendment to the City Code to Section 18-57
(g) &(1), Driveways on Collector Roads.
NEW BUSINESS
OLD BUSINESS
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
ONGOING ITEMS
OPEN DISCUSSION
ADJOURNMENT
NOTE: Planning Commission meetings are scheduled to end by 10:30 p.m.as outlined in official by-laws. We will make
every attempt to complete the hearing for each item on the agenda. If,however,this does not appear to be possible,the Chair
person will notify those present and offer rescheduling options. Items thus pulled from consideration will be listed first on the
agenda at the next Commission meeting.
P.C. DATE: 3-4-98
C I TY O F C.C. DATE: 3-23-98
CASE: 98-2 Site Plan
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ClIANIIASSEN• 96-2 VAC, 98-1 SUB
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BY: Al-Jaff:v
STAFF REPORT
PROPOSAL: 1) Site Plan Review for the construction of two 75,000 square foot and one
77,700 square foot Office Warehouse buildings
2) Preliminary Plat to Subdivide 39.48 acres into 4 Lots, Chanhassen Pointe
Business Center
Z 3) Vacation of a Utility and Drainage Easement
0 LOCATION: South of Lake Drive East, West of Dell Road, and North of Eden Prairie.
eL APPLICANT : Welsh Construction Corp MN/Chanhassen RFP Ill
L.L.Co.,a Delaware L.LCo.
Q 8200 Normandale Blvd, Suite 200 C/O GE Investments
Minneapolis, MN 55437-1060 3003 Summer Street
897-7843 Stamford, CT 06905
(?011176-4064
PRESENT ZONING: IOP, Industrial Office Park
ACREAGE: 39.48 acres
ADJACENT ZONING
AND LAND USE: N-Lake Drive East
S-Eden Prairie, Residential
E - Dell Road, Eden Prairie, Residential
W-Chanhassen Estates, Residential
QSEWER AND WATER: Services are available to the site.
SITE CHARACTERISTICS: The site is an old farmstead. There is an existing office
W industrial building on the west corner of the site.
2000 LAND USE: Office/Industrial
Chanhassen Pointe Business Center
March 4, 1998
Page 2
PROPOSAL/SUMMARY
There are three actions being requested with this application, a subdivision, a site plan review for
three office warehouse buildings, and vacation of a utility and drainage easement. The site is
zoned IOP, Industrial Office Park and bordered by Lake Drive East to the north, Dell Road to the
east, and a Lundgren Brothers residential development to the south. The lot area of the
office/warehouse sites are 8.71 acres for Lot 1, 5.48 acres for Lot 2, 6.38 acres for Lot 3, and
18.91 acres for Lot 4. The site has full access from Lake Drive East.
The subdivision request consists of subdividing 39.48 acres into four lots. Lots 1, 2, and 3 will
contain the proposed office warehouse buildings. Lot 4 will contain the existing DataSery
building. The east portion of the site is occupied by a regional pond. The subdivision request is
a relatively straightforward action.
The site plan is for the three office warehouse buildings. The buildings are similar in design.
They are proposed to utilize exposed aggregate sand finish with horizontal embossing and an
insulated precast concrete wall panel on all four sides of the buildings. Entrances are setback and
extend 4 feet above the average height of the building. Materials used on the entrances include
glass and smooth finish reversed panels with reveals, and two tones of rough face block.
The building can be divided depending on the needs of the tenant. Loading docks are proposed
for those tenants that would need them. These buildings will serve office/industrial tenants. The
applicant has proposed to have the parking along the east, west, and south of the building. This
area is in the Highway 5 corridor which uses the underlying district for setbacks. The parking as
proposed including the screening meets the Hwy. 5 zoning district requirement.
Truck dock loading areas are located between the buildings and away from views. This issue
was discussed in detail with the applicant. Staff explained that this area must be screened to the
best extent possible. The applicant is screening these areas by the use of berms and clustering of
evergreens and ornamental trees. The site landscaping is of high quality however, an additional
36 trees need to be added to meet the buffer ordinance requirements. Staff discussed this issue
with the applicant and was informed that they were not aware of the ordinance but do intend to
comply with these requirements. A meandering berm of 4 to 8 feet in height runs along the south
edge of the site to provide screening. Berms along the north edge of the site are an average of 2
to 4 feet in height when viewed from Lake Drive East, and 8 feet high when viewed from the
loading dock area. The parking spaces are screened from views from Lake Drive East by berms
and vegetation. Additional landscaping is needed to provide screening of the parking lot along
Dell Road. There is a maximum of two rows of parking at any given location.
The buildings are located 30 feet from the north, a minimum of 330 feet from the east, 121 feet
from the south, and 75 feet from the west property line.
Materials used on the three buildings which are similar in design of one another, are exposed
aggregate sand finish with horizontal embossing and an insulated precast concrete wall panel on
Chanhassen Pointe Business Center
March 4, 1998
Page 3
all four sides of the buildings. Entrances are setback and extend 4 feet above the average height
of the building. Materials used on the entrances include glass and smooth finish reversed panels
with reveals, and two tones of rough face block. The building's architecture meets the standards
of the site plan ordinance requirements. The buildings will be similar in design but different in
the color of the accent bands. These bands will be painted either maroon or green.
This development falls within the Highway Corridor Overlay and must comply with the district's
design standards in addition to the Industrial Office Park Standards. The purpose of the overlay
district is to promote high-quality architectural and site design through improved development
standards with the corridor. The design standards should create a unified, harmonious and high
quality visual environment. The plan and design of the proposed development meets the intent
of the overlay district with the following features:
• The building will be one story and the architectural style is unique to the buildings but
will fit in. The buildings will provide a variation in style through the use of precast,
glass, decorative wall designs, rough face block and recessed entrances. The building is
utilizing exterior materials that are durable. Samples of the materials as well as colored
renderings have been submitted to the city and will be available at the meeting.
• The site slopes easterly, and grading of the site is required. The existing site grade ranges
from 904 in the southeast corner to 934+on the northwest corner. The landscaping plan
provides a variety of plant materials that are massed where possible,particularly along the
parameters of the loading docks and Lake Drive East. The berms and landscaping
materials will be continuous along the perimeter of the site. The plant materials are
repetitious in some locations and variable in others. Proposed plant materials are
indigenous to Minnesota. A curb is required along the perimeter of the green space area.
All planting areas are adequate in size to allow trees to grow. Clustered plantings along
the south portion of the site to further screen the loading dock from the residential
neighborhood is provided however, an addition of 36 trees will need to be added to meet
the requirements of the buffer ordinance.
• A parking lot lighting plan is required. The applicant submitted the light style which will
be located on the building. A sign plan has not been submitted. Individual channeled
letters with the option of back lighting will be permitted, however, no back lit signs may
be viewed from any residential area.
• The site plan fails to show the trash enclosure location. Staff discussed this issue with the
applicant and learned that the intent is to store it indoors. Should the need arise to locate
the trash outdoors, the dumpsters must be screened by a wing-wall and doors with siding
and trim to match the building, and be located within the loading dock area. Current state
statutes require that recycling space be provided for all new buildings. The area of the
recycling space must be dedicated at the rate specified in Minnesota State Building Code
(MSBC) 1300.4700 Subp. 5. The applicant should demonstrate the required area will be
provided in addition to the space required for other solid waste collection space.
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Recycling space and other solid waste collection space should be contained within the
same enclosure.
SITE PLAN FINDINGS
In evaluating a site plan and building plan, the city shall consider the development's compliance
with the following:
(1) Consistency with the elements and objectives of the city's development guides,
including the comprehensive plan, official road mapping, and other plans that may
be adopted;
(2) Consistency with this division;
(3) Preservation of the site in its natural state to the extent practicable by minimizing
tree and soil removal and designing grade changes to be in keeping with the
general appearance of the neighboring developed or developing areas;
(4) Creation of a harmonious relationship of building and open space with natural site
features and with existing and future buildings having a visual relationship to the
development;
(5) Creation of functional and harmonious design for structures and site features, with
special attention to the following:
a. An internal sense of order for the buildings and use on the site and
provision of a desirable environment for occupants, visitors and general
community;
b. The amount and location of open space and landscaping;
c. Materials, textures,colors and details of construction as an expression of
the design concept and the compatibility of the same with adjacent and
neighboring structures and uses; and
d. Vehicular and pedestrian circulation, including walkways, interior drives
and parking in terms of location and number of access points to the public
streets, width of interior drives and access points, general interior
circulation, separation of pedestrian and vehicular traffic and arrangement
and amount of parking.
(6) Protection of adjacent and neighboring properties through reasonable provision
for surface water drainage, sound and sight buffers,preservation of views, light
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and air and those aspects of design not adequately covered by other regulations
which may have substantial effects on neighboring land uses.
Finding: The proposed development is consistent with the City's Highway 5 corridor
design requirements, the comprehensive plan, the zoning ordinance, and the site plan
review requirements. The site design is compatible with the surrounding development. It
is functional and harmonious with the approved development for this area.
WETLANDS
A wetland delineation report was prepared by John Anderson with Wetlands Data on December
20, 1995. He found one non jurisdictional wetland on site. The wetland is located southeast of
the DataSery parking lot. After meetings with the Water Resources Coordinator, it was
determined that the wetland was non jurisdictional. The site was excavated in 1982 in a non-
wetland area. Aerial photographs show that the site had been tilled through 1981. In 1982, the
water retention pond and two softball fields were created. The remainder of the site remained as
tilled agricultural land. The ditch through Lot 1 was created in conjunction with the City's Lake
Drive East project in 1989. The City has issued to DataSery a Certificate of Exemption for the
consolidation or relocation of this pond south of DataServ's parking lot. Therefore, the wetlands
on site are exempt from the wetland regulation process and the applicant may fill or drain it
without replacement.
SURFACE WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN(SWMP)
Storm Water Quality Fees
The SWMP has established a water quality connection charge for each new subdivision based on
land use. Dedication shall be equal to the cost of land and pond volume needed for treatment of the
phosphorus load leaving the site. The requirement for cash in lieu of land and pond construction
shall be based upon a schedule in accordance with the prescribed land use zoning. Values are
calculated using market values of land in the City of Chanhassen plus a value of$2.50 per cubic
yard for excavation of the pond. SWMP water quality charge is$4,633/acre for industrial
developments.-The total gross area of the site is 39.48 acres; however,existing development is
exempt from SWMP fees. Therefore,the proposed development would be responsible for a net
area of 20.28 acres which results in a water quality connection fee of$93,957.
A regional stormwater pond has been constructed for both water quality and quantity on lot one
by the previous development(CSM), and therefore the applicant is not eligible to build NURP
ponds for water quality credit. The stormwater runoff from this development will run through
this pond and be discharged under Dell Road into a natural wetland as per the City SWMP
design.
Storm Water Quantity Fees
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The SWMP has established a connection charge for the different land uses based on an average
city-wide rate for the installation of water quantity systems. This cost includes land acquisition,
proposed SWMP culverts, open channels and storm water ponding areas for runoff storage.
Industrial developments have a connection charge of$4,360 per developable acre. The total gross
area of the property is 39.48 acres. However, existing development is exempt from the fees (Lot
4). Therefore, the proposed development would then be responsible for a net area of 20.28 acres
which results in a water quantity connection charge of$88,421. The oversizing and installation
of trunk storm sewer lines will be eligible for water quantity credit to the applicant. The total
SWMP charges for water quantity will be determined based on the cost of the trunk lines.
GRADING
The site was graded with the previous development(CSM/Chanhassen East Business Center). A
regional storm water pond was constructed over the easterly portion of Lot 1. The pond receives
storm water runoff from this proposed development as well as CSM development north of Lake
Drive East. In addition, the City of Eden Prairie contributes some drainage from the south. The
preliminary grading plan proposes to "bench" in the site in order to develop building pads and
parking lots and conform with the neighborhood topography. Based on the grading plan quite a
bit of earthwork will be necessary to prepare the site for development. If exporting or importing
of earthwork material is necessary, a haul route and traffic control plan will be needed to be
submitted to the City for review and approval prior to construction commencing. The site
contains some existing berms along the south property line. The plans propose on modifying the
size of some of the berms; however, there are limitations due to the existing landscaping and
property lines. Generally, the berms will be increased in height from two to four feet. The berms
will provide a screening of two to three feet along the southerly portion of the project. Individual
berms are proposed along Lake Drive East to provide some buffering.
DRAINAGE
In conjunction with the Chanhassen East Business Center the regional pond on Lot 1 was
constructed to collect the runoff from this development as well. An existing drainage swale runs
through Lots 1 and 2. This drainage swale will be replaced with a trunk storm sewer system
which will convey the runoff from Lake Drive and other properties into the regional storm water
pond on Lot 1 for pretreatment. The applicant will be entitled to credits against their surface
water management fees (SWMP)with the installation of this trunk storm sewer pipe. Credits
will be applied to the applicant's SWMP fees based on the cost difference between 24-inch pipe
and the proposed pipe. The other storm sewer systems within the development will be
considered private and owned and maintained by the property owners. The site receives storm
water runoff from Eden Prairie to the south of the development. This drainage is proposed to be
collected in the storm sewer system and conveyed to a regional pond to maintain the
neighborhood drainage pattern. Drainage easements will need to be dedicated on the final plat to
maintain drainage through the property. Based on the plans it appears the drainage connection to
Eden Prairie will require a temporary construction easement outside the plat to connect to the
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existing storm sewer system. The applicant will need to acquire the necessary construction
easements from the property owners to perform the work.
The applicant will need to submit to the City detailed storm drainage calculations and drainage
maps for a 10 and 100-year storm event, 24-hour duration, for staff review and approval in
conjunction with final plat consideration. In addition, detailed construction plans and
specifications shall be prepared in accordance with the City's standard specifications and detail
plates for the public storm sewer through Lot 1 from Lake Drive to the regional pond.
Construction plans must be submitted three weeks prior to final plat consideration for staff
review and approval. Since there are public utility improvements involved with the project the
applicant shall enter into a development contract with the City and provide the necessary
financial security to guarantee installation of the public improvements and conditions of plat
approval.
EROSION CONTROL
The preliminary erosion control plan is in general accordance with the City's Best Management
Practice Handbook. Staff recommends that a temporary sediment basin be constructed during the
initial phase of site grading to collect sediment before reaching the regional pond. The plans
propose on rock construction entrances at two locations along Lake Drive. The rock construction
entrances shall be maintained until the driveways and parking lots have been paved with a
bituminous surface. Hay bales, rock filer dikes and/or silt fence shall be installed around all
catch basins until the parking lots have been paved with bituminous as well. The applicant
should be aware that existing erosion has occurred from the drainage swales into the regional
pond. In conjunction with this development, additional erosion is proposed is anticipated to
occur. The applicant should be advised that it will be their responsibility to review the erosion
damage that has occurred and notify the City accordingly to have this work completed prior to
grading operations commencing or the applicant will assume all responsibilities for cleaning and
correcting the erosion problems around the regional pond.
UTILITIES
Individual sanitary sewer and water services have been extended to the parcels from Lake Drive
East. All sanitary sewer and water improvements installed outside the City's right-of-way for
Lake Drive East shall be considered private and not maintained by the City. These utilities will
be inspected by the City's Building Department. The utility improvements shall be constructed in
accordance with the City's latest edition of Standard Specifications and Detail Plates and/or State
Plumbing Codes. Fire hydrant locations throughout the site will be subject to City Fire Marshal
approval.
STREETS
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The project is proposed to be accessed through four new driveway access points off of Lake
Drive East. Staff has reviewed the locations of the driveway and are comfortable with their
locations. Staff does suggest that the existing driveway access to DataServ's easterly parking lot
(Lot 4) which is not utilized should be abandoned due to the steep grade. Driveways and parking
lots provide good traffic circulation around the building sites. However,pedestrian traffic may
need further review. Staff recommends that it may be prudent to install a 6-foot wide sidewalk
along the south side of Lake Drive East to provide pedestrian circulation to Dell Road from the
development. Currently there is an existing 6-foot wide sidewalk along the north side of Lake
Drive East. It is not uncommon to have sidewalk along both sides of a collector road such as
Lake Drive East. Upon review of the plans it appears the drive aisle widths and parking stall
lengths are designed in accordance with City Code. All driveway access points onto Lake Drive
East shall incorporate the City's industrial driveway apron(Detail Plate No. 5207). Cross-access
and maintenance agreements will be needed for Lots 1 and 2. The new driveway access points
along Lake Drive East may be in conflict with a City street light. The applicant shall be
responsible for relocating any street lights. Staff recommends that the applicant look at shifting
the common driveway access to Lots 1 and 2 easterly 5 feet plus or minus to avoid impacting the
existing street light.
In conjunction with the development of Chanhassen East Business Center, staff had a traffic
study prepared for the region. The traffic study indicated acceptable levels of traffic (service)
through the initial phases of Chanhassen East Business Center. The traffic study also indicated
the need for a semaphore at the intersection of Lake Drive East and Dell Road in the future. This
is all dependent upon phasing or timing of this development and the extension of Dell Road
southerly to Highway 212. The development contract for Chanhassen East Business Center
which included this property did have the requirement that the properties shall be responsible for
their fair share of the cost for future installation of a traffic signal at the intersection of Dell Road
and Lake Drive East. Security to guarantee payment for the developer's share of the traffic signal
will be required in the development contract.
STREETS/PARKING/INTERIOR CIRCULATION
The site is proposed to be serviced from five driveway access points off of Lake Drive East. The
truck access drive located between Lots 1 and 2,is proposed to be shared between the two
buildings. A cross-access easement will be required.
The City's parking ordinance for office warehouse buildings requires a total of 148 spaces for
Building 1. The applicant is providing 148. Building 2 is required to provide 135 spaces and the
applicant is providing 144 spaces. Building 3 is required to provide 152 spaces. The applicant is
providing 152 spaces. The applicant feels that they might need additional parking in the future
and have shown proof of parking on the site plan should they need to add. With the proof of
parking added to the hard surface/green space ratio,they will still meet the ordinance
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requirements. The overall required parking for all three buildings is 440 spaces. The applicant is
providing 444 parking spaces.
Accessibility. The Uniform Building Code Table A-11-A requires 5 accessible parking space be
provided when 101-150 parking stalls are constructed,6 accessible parking spaces when 151-200
parking stalls are constructed and 7 accessible parking spaces when 201-300 parking stalls are
constructed.. The number of accessible spaces proposed on the Preliminary Site Plan is shown
incorrectly. Each parking lot,if constructed as shown, will require one van accessible space.
CABO/ASI A117.1-1992 (C/A)requires a van accessible space to have an 8' wide access aisle
Minnesota State Building Code 1340.1120 Subp. 2 amends C/A 4.6.4 by requiring a"no parking
access aisle"sign at the head of the access aisle.
Permit requirements. Plans are often bid before the City building code plan review,making
changes necessary for code compliance difficult and expensive to incorporate later. Accordingly, I
would like to request that you relay to the developers and designers my desire to meet with them as
early as possible to discuss commercial building permit requirements and the code review process.
LANDSCAPING
Presently, the site of the Chanhassen Pointe Business Center has minimal canopy coverage. A
landscaped berm has been created along the southern property line with young spruce and various
deciduous trees lining the top of the berm, all of which will be incorporated by the applicant into
a buffer area between the future development and the existing residential.
Ten percent canopy coverage is required for the site which equals approximately 78 trees.
Additionally,buffer plantings along the southern property line and boulevard trees along the
northern will also be required. These totals are 117 and 43 respectively. The overall total of
trees required is 238; the applicant is providing 202. A breakdown of proposed deciduous and
evergreen trees is as follows: 61 are evergreens (30%of total), 43 are ornamentals, and 98 are
shade trees. The difference of 36 trees should be made up in increased landscaping along the
southern berm and around the parking areas. Staff can work with applicant to meet requirements.
In a memo from Scott Kipp, Senior Planner with the City of Eden Prairie,he recommends the
construction of a retaining wall with a fence to maximize screening of the parking lot area. Staff
believes that with the additional trees and the added height to the berm, the screening will be
adequate.
LIGHTING
Lighting locations for the parking lot will be located on the building. Only shielded fixtures are
allowed and the applicant shall demonstrate that there is no more than 1/2 foot candles of light at
the property line as required by ordinance. A detailed lighting plan should be submitted when
building permits are requested. Accent lights are located above entry ways into the buildings.
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Street lights consistent with Lake Drive East will be at 200 feet intervals, staggered from one side
to the other.
SIGNAGE
The applicant has not submitted a signage plan. One ground low profile business sign is
permitted per lot. The area of the sign may not exceed 80 square feet and a height of 8 feet.
Also, one wall mounted sign per business shall be permitted per street frontage. The total display
area shall not exceed 15%of the total area of the building wall upon which the signs are
mounted. No sign may exceed 90 square feet. Staff is recommending the following criteria be
adopted:
1. All businesses within a single building shall share one monument sign.
Monument signage shall be subject to the monument standards in the sign
ordinance.
2. Wall signs for Building 1 will be permitted along the north and east elevations.
Building 2 will be permitted signs along the north and west elevations,and
Building 3 will be permitted wall signage along the north and west elevations
only. Signs will be located within the sign bands located above the entrances and
windows.
3. All signs require a separate permit.
4. The signage will have consistency throughout the development and add an
architectural accent to the building.
5. Consistency in signage shall relate to color, size, materials, and heights.
6. No illuminated signs within the development may be viewed from the residential
section south of the site.
7. Back-lit individual letter signs are permitted.
8. Individual letters may not exceed 2 feet in height and logos shall not exceed 30
inches in height and consistent with the standards for the signage.
9. Only the name and logo of the business occupying the unit will be permitted on
the sign.
The applicant must obtain a sign permit prior to erecting the signs on site. One stop sign must be
posted on the driveway at the exit point of all sites. A detailed sign plan incorporating the
method of lighting, acceptable to staff should be provided prior to requesting a building permit.
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The applicant is requesting a development sign identifying the entire project. The sign ordinance
does not address such signs in the IOP district,however, there are a number of projects that have
been permitted to utilize them. These projects have a Planned Unit Development zoning and the
development was permitted these signs as part of their PUD guidelines. Staff has no objection to
this request however, we cannot make a recommendation without seeing the proposal. We
recommend the applicant submit a detailed sign plan to the City for review and approval by the
Planning Commission and City Council.
COMPLIANCE TABLE - IOP DISTRICT
Ordinance Building 1 Building 2 Building 3
Building Height 2 stories 1 story 1 story 1 story
Building Setback N-30'E-30' N-30' E-320' N-31' E-85' N-31' E-115'
S-50' W-30' S-12I' W-115' S-120' W-120' S-120' W-80'
Parking Setback N-25' E-25' N-30'E-267' N-30' E-NA N-30' E-NA'
S-50' W-10' S-50'W-NA S-60' W-NA S-50'W-NA'
Hard surface 70% 47% 69% 70%
Coverage
Lot Area 1 acre 8.71 acres 5.45 ac. 6.38 ac.
PARK AND TRAIL DEDICATION FEES
The City is requiring that park and trails fees be submitted in lieu of park land. Fees are to be
paid in accordance to city ordinance. One third of the fees will be required at the time of final
plat recording.
SUBDIVISION
The subdivision request consists of subdividing 39.48 acres into four lots. Lots 1, 2, and 3 will
contain the proposed office warehouse buildings. Lot 4 will contain the existing DataSery
building. The zoning ordinance requires a minimum lot area of 1 acre. The lot areas are 8.71
acres for Lot 1, 5.45 ac. for Lot 2, 6.38 ac. for Lot 3, and 18.91 acres for Lot 4. The subdivision
request is a relatively straightforward action.
The following easements are either illustrated on the plat or should be acquired:
1. Standard drainage and utility easements around the perimeter of all lots.
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2. Dedication of drainage and utility easements over ponds and drainage ways.
VACATION
There is an existing utility and drainage easement over Lots 1 and 2. The drainage swale is being
abandoned and therefore, the existing easement may be vacated. Staff is recommending the
easement be vacated.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends the Planning Commission adopt the following motion:
I. SITE PLAN REVIEW
"The Planning Commission recommends approval of Site Plan Review#98-2 as shown on the
site plan received February 24, 1998, subject to the following conditions:
1. If the trash dumbsters were located outdoors, the materials used to screen the trash
enclosure shall be the same type of brick used on the building, and that the trash
enclosure be located within the loading dock area.
2. Signage criteria:
a. All businesses within a single building shall share one monument sign.
Monument signage shall be subject to the monument standards in the sign
ordinance.
b. Wall signs for Building 1 will be permitted along the north and east elevations.
Building 2 will be permitted signs along the north and west elevations, and 3 will
be permitted wall signage along the north and west elevations only. Signs will be
located within the sign bands located above the entrances and windows.
c. All signs require a separate permit.
d. The signage will have consistency throughout the development and add an
architectural accent to the building.
e. Consistency in signage shall relate to color, size, materials, and heights.
f. No illuminated signs within the development may be viewed from the residential
section south of the site.
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g. Back-lit individual letter signs are permitted.
h. Individual letters may not exceed 2 feet in height and logos shall not exceed 30
inches in height and consistent with the standards for the signage.
i. Only the name and logo of the business occupying the unit will be permitted on
the sign.
j. No back lit signage shall be viewed from the residential neighborhood to the
south.
3. Thirty six trees should be made up in increased landscaping along the southern berm and
around the parking areas.
4. The applicant shall enter into a site plan contract with the city and provide the necessary
financial securities as required for landscaping.
5. Concurrent with the building permit, a detailed lighting plan meeting city standards shall
be submitted.
6. Building Official conditions:
a. Meet with the Building Official as requested in his attached memo to discuss
commercial building permit requirements.
b. Revise the parking on the preliminary site plan to comply with the building code.
7. All roof top equipment must be screened in accordance with city ordinances.
8. Approval of this site plan is contingent upon the recording of the final plat for
Chanhassen Pointe Business Center with Hennepin County.
9. All areas disturbed as a result of construction activities shall be immediately restored with
seed and disc-mulched or wood-fiber blanket or sod within two weeks of completion of
each activity in accordance with the City's Best Management Practice Handbook.
10. All utility improvements shall be constructed in accordance with the latest edition of the
City's Standard Specifications and Detail Plates or State Plumbing Codes. Detailed utility
plans and specifications shall be submitted in conjunction with final plat approval for staff
review and City Council approval. The private utilities will be inspected by the City's
Building Department. The applicant and/or builder shall be responsible for obtaining the
necessary permits from the City.
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11. The applicant shall provide detailed storm sewer calculations and drainage maps for 10-year
and 100-year storm events for the City Engineer to review and approve prior to final plat
approval.
12. The applicant shall enter into a development contract with the City and provide the
necessary financial security to guarantee compliance with the terms of the development
contract.
13. The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies,
i.e. Carver County,Watershed District, Metropolitan Waste Control Commission, Health
Department and Minnesota Pollution Control Agency and comply with their conditions of
approval.
14. The appropriate drainage and utility easements should be dedicated on the final plat for all
utilities and ponding areas lying outside the right-of-way. The easement width shall be a
minimum of 20 feet wide depending on pipe depth. Consideration shall also be given for
access for maintenance of the ponding areas.
15. No berming or landscaping will be allowed within the right-of-way. Landscape materials
shall not be placed within drainage swales or over utility lines. The applicant may place
landscape materials within the drainage and utility easement conditioned upon the applicant
entering into an encroachment agreement with the City.
16. The lowest floor elevation of all buildings adjacent to wetlands and storm ponds shall be a
minimum of 2 feet above the 100-year high water level.
17. The applicant shall report to the City Engineer the location of any drain tiles found during
construction and shall re-locate or abandon the drain tile as directed by the City Engineer.
18. The installation of traffic signals at the intersection of Lake Drive East and Dell Road is
expected in the future. The developer shall be responsible or share the local cost
participation of this signal on a percentage basis based upon traffic generation from full
development of this site in relation to the total traffic volume of Dell Road. Security or
other acceptable means to guarantee payment for the developer's share of this traffic signal
for the entire development will be required.
19. If importing or exporting of earthwork materials is necessary,a haul route and traffic control
plan shall be submitted to the City for review and approval prior to construction
commencing.
20. All driveway access points onto Lake Drive East shall incorporate the City's industrial
driveway apron(Detail Plate No. 5207). Cross access and maintenance agreements shall
be prepared for Lots 1 and 2. The City shall be included in the use for accessing the
regional storm water pond.
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21. DataServ's existing driveway access onto Lake Drive East in the northeast corner of Lot 4
should be abandoned.
22. The common driveway access to Lots 1 and 2 should be relocated to avoid conflict to the
existing street light on Lake Drive East.
23. The developer shall be responsible to obtain a temporary construction easement from the
property/properties for the storm sewer construction south of Lot 3 in the City of Eden
Prairie.
24. The rock construction entrances shall be maintained by the developer until the parking
lots are paved with bituminous. All catch basin inlets shall be protected with silt fence,
rock filter dikes or hay bales as well.
25. A six-foot wide concrete sidewalk shall be constructed along the south side of Lake Drive
East within the entire plat. The proposed sidewalks from the building shall be extended
out to meet the proposed sidewalk along Lake Drive East.
26. The grading plan shall be revised to include reconstruction of Dataserv's parking lot and a
temporary sediment basin to collect sediment before it reaches the regional pond.
27. The developer shall review the site conditions prior to construction for existing erosion
control problems or damaged streets and utility improvements. Once construction
activities commence the developer assumes full responsibility for site conditions and any
corrections prior to issuance of a certificate of occupancy.
28. Fire Marshal conditions:
a) One additional fire hydrant will be required at the north entrance to the lot 3 parking
lot on the east side of the building.
b) Post Indicator Valves (PIV)will be required for all fire service lines coming into the
building. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location of the PIVs.
c) No parking fire lane signs and yellow curbing will be required. Contact Chanhassen
Fire Marshal for exact location of signs and curbing to be painted yellow.
d) Submit radius turn dimensions to City Engineer and Chanhassen Fire Marshal for
review and approval.
e) The new 8 inch BIP water main should be a loop system coming in off of the water
main off of Lake Drive East.
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f) Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding fire department notes to
be included on all site plans. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire
Prevention Policy#04-1991. (Copy enclosed.)
g) Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding pre-fire plans. Pursuant
to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy#07-1991.
h) Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding premise identification.
Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy#29-1992. Note:
Due to the size of these buildings,additional signs will be required both at the north
end and at the south end of the buildings.
i) Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/City of Chanhassen policy regarding water
service installation for commercial and industrial buildings. Pursuant to Inspection
Division Water Service Installation Policy# 34-1993. (Copy enclosed.)
j) Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding maximum allowed size of
domestic water service on a combination domestic fire sprinkler supply line.
Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy#36-1994.
k) Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding fire hydrant installation.
Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy#47-1998. (Copy
enclosed.)
II. SUBDIVISION
"The Planning Commission recommends approval of preliminary plat for Subdivision #98-2 for
Chanhassen Pointe Business Center as shown on the plat received February 24, 1998 with the
following conditions:
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1. Park and trail dedication fees to be collected per city ordinance.
2. The applicant shall dedicate cross-access easements into Lots 1 and 2,Block 1.
3. All areas disturbed as a result of construction activities shall be immediately restored with
seed and disc-mulched or wood-fiber blanket or sod within two weeks of completion of
each activity in accordance with the City's Best Management Practice Handbook.
4. The applicant shall provide detailed storm sewer calculations and drainage maps for 10-year
and 100-year storm events for the City Engineer to review and approve prior to final plat
approval.
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5. The applicant shall enter into a development contract with the City and provide the
necessary financial security to guarantee compliance with the terms of the development
contract.
6. The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies,
i.e. Carver County,Watershed District, Metropolitan Waste Control Commission, Health
Department, Minnesota Pollution Control Agency, Minnesota Department of Natural
Resources, Army Corps of Engineers and Minnesota Department of Transportation and
comply with their conditions of approval.
7. The appropriate drainage and utility easements should be dedicated on the final plat for all
utilities and ponding areas lying outside the right-of-way. The easement width shall be a
minimum of 20 feet wide over the trunk storm sewer line. Consideration shall also be given
for access for maintenance of the ponding areas.
8. The lowest floor elevation of all buildings adjacent to wetlands and storm ponds shall be a
minimum of 2 feet above the 100-year high water level.
9. Existing wells and/or septic systems on site will have to be properly abandoned in
accordance to City and Minnesota Department of Health codes/regulations.
10. The proposed Industrial development of 39.39 net developable acres is responsible for a
water quality connection charge of$93,957 and a water quantity fee of$88,421. The
applicant will be eligible for credit to the water quantity fee based on oversizing the design
of the trunk storm sewer system. These fees are payable to the City prior to the City filing
the final plat.
11. The applicant shall report to the City Engineer the location of any drain tiles found during
construction and shall re-locate or abandon the drain tile as directed by the City Engineer.
12. The installation of traffic signals at the intersection of Lake Drive East and Dell Road is
expected in the future. The developer shall be responsible for a share the local cost
participation of this signal on a percentage basis based upon traffic generation from full
development of this site in relation to the total traffic volume of Dell Road. Security or
other acceptable means to guarantee payment for the developer's share of this traffic signal
for the entire development will be required.
13. If exporting of earthwork materials is necessary,a haul route and traffic control plan shall
be submitted to the City for review and approval."
III. VACATION
"The City Council approves Vacation 96-2 of the utility and drainage easement over Lots 1 and 2
subject to the following condition:
Chanhassen Pointe Business Center
March 4, 1998
Page 18
1. The applicant shall provide the city with a legal description of the easement proposed to
be vacated."
ATTACHMENTS
1. Memo from Dave Hempel, Assistant City Engineer, dated February 23, 1998.
2. Memo from Steve Kirchman dated February 19, 1998.
3. Memo from Mark Littfm, Fire Marshal, dated February 17, 1998.
4. Memo from Scott Kipp, Senior Planner with the City of Eden Prairie.
5. Memo from Minnegasco dated February 23, 1998.
6 Application.
7. Letter from RLK dated February 4, 1998.
8. Plans received March 1, 1996.
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN MEMORANDUM
690 City Center Drive,PO Box 147
Chanhassen,Minnesota 55317
TO: Sharmin Al-Jaff, Planner II
Phone 612.937.1900
FROM: Dave Hempel, Assistant City Engineer
General Fax 612.9375739
Engineering Fax 612.937.9152 DATE: February 23, 1998
Public Safety Fax 612.934.2524
Web n'wwci.chanhassen.mn.us SUBJ: Review of Preliminary Plat for Chanhassen Pointe Business Centre
File No. 96-3
Upon review of the preliminary plat drawings prepared by RLK and Associates
dated February 2, 1998, I offer the following comments and recommendations:
GRADING
The site was graded with the previous development(CSM/Chanhassen East
Business Center). A regional storm water pond was constructed over the easterly
portion of Lot 1. The pond receives storm water runoff from this proposed
development as well as CSM development north of Lake Drive East. In addition,
the City of Eden Prairie contributes some drainage from the south. The
preliminary grading plan proposes to "bench" in the site in order to develop
building pads and parking lots and conform with the neighborhood topography.
Based on the grading plan quite a bit of earthwork will be necessary to prepare the
site for development. If exporting or importing of earthwork material is necessary,
a haul route and traffic control plan will be needed to be submitted to the City for
review and approval prior to construction commencing. The site Contains some
existing berms along the south property line. The plans propose on modifying the
size of some of the berms; however, there are limitations due to the existing
landscaping and property lines. Generally,the berms will be increased in height
from two to four feet. The berms will provide a screening of two to three feet
along the southerly portion of the project. Individual berms are proposed along
Lake Drive East to provide some buffering.
DRAINAGE
In conjunction with the Chanhassen East Business Center the regional pond on Lot
1 was constructed to collect the runoff from this development as well. An existing
drainage swale runs through Lots 1 and 2. This drainage swale will be replaced
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with a trunk storm sewer system which will convey the runoff from Lake Drive
and other properties into the regional storm water pond on Lot 1 for pretreatment.
The applicant will be entitled to credits against their surface water management
fees (SWMP) with the installation of this trunk storm sewer pipe. Credits will be
applied to the applicant's SWMP fees based on the cost difference between 24-inch
pipe and the proposed pipe. The other storm sewer systems within the
development will be considered private and owned and maintained by the property
owners. The site receives storm water runoff from Eden Prairie to the south of the
development. This drainage is proposed to be collected in the storm sewer system
and conveyed to a regional pond to maintain the neighborhood drainage pattern.
Drainage easements will need to be dedicated on the final plat to maintain drainage
through the property. Based on the plans it appears the drainage connection to
Eden Prairie will require a temporary construction easement outside the plat to
connect to the existing storm sewer system. The applicant will need to acquire the
necessary construction easements from the property owners to perform the work.
The applicant will need to submit to the City detailed storm drainage calculations
and drainage maps for a 10 and 100-year storm event, 24-hour duration, for staff
review and approval in conjunction with final plat consideration. In addition,
detailed construction plans and specifications shall be prepared in accordance with
the City's standard specifications and detail plates for the public storm sewer
through Lot 1 from Lake Drive to the regional pond. Construction plans must be
submitted three weeks prior to final plat consideration for staff review and
approval. Since there are public utility improvements involved with the project the
applicant shall enter into a development contract with the City and provide the
necessary financial security to guarantee installation of the public improvements
and conditions of plat approval.
EROSION CONTROL
The preliminary erosion control plan is in general accordance with the City's Best
Management Practice Handbook. Staff recommends that a temporary sediment
basin be constructed during the initial phase of site grading to collect sediment
before reaching the regional pond. The plans propose on rock construction
entrances at two locations along Lake Drive. The rock construction entrances
shall be maintained until the driveways and parking lots have been paved with a
bituminous surface. Hay bales, rock filer dikes and/or silt fence shall be installed
around all catch basins until the parking lots have been paved with bituminous as
well. The applicant should be aware that existing erosion has occurred from the
drainage swales into the regional pond. In conjunction with this development,
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February 23, 1998
Page 3
additional erosion is proposed is anticipated to occur. The applicant should be
advised that it will be their responsibility to review the erosion damage that has
occurred and notify the City accordingly to have this work completed prior to
grading operations commencing or the applicant will assume all responsibilities for
cleaning and correcting the erosion problems around the regional pond.
UTILITIES
Individual sanitary sewer and water services have been extended to the parcels
from Lake Drive East. All sanitary sewer and water improvements installed
outside the City's right-of-way for Lake Drive East shall be considered private and
not maintained by the City. These utilities will be inspected by the City's Building
Department. The utility improvements shall be constructed in accordance with the
City's latest edition of Standard Specifications and Detail Plates and/or State
Plumbing Codes. Fire hydrant locations throughout the site will be subject to City
Fire Marshall approval.
STREETS
The project is proposed to be accessed through four new driveway access points
off of Lake Drive East. Staff has reviewed the locations of the driveway and are
comfortable with their locations. Staff does suggest that the existing driveway
access to Dataserv's easterly parking lot(Lot 4)which is not utilized should be
abandoned due to the steep grade. Driveways and parking lots provide good
traffic circulation around the building sites. However, pedestrian traffic may need
further review. Staff recommends that it may be prudent to install a 6-foot wide
sidewalk along the south side of Lake Drive East to provide pedestrian circulation
to Dell Road from the development. Currently there is an existing 6-foot wide
sidewalk along the north side of Lake Drive East. It is not uncommon to have
sidewalk along both sides of a collector road such as Lake Drive East. Upon
review of the plans it appears the drive aisle widths and parking stall lengths are
designed in accordance with City Code. All driveway access points onto Lake
Drive East shall incorporate the City's industrial driveway apron (Detail Plate No.
5207). Cross-access and maintenance agreements will be needed for Lots 1 and 2.
The new driveway access points along Lake Drive East may be in conflict with a
City street light. The applicant shall be responsible for relocating any street lights.
Staff recommends that the applicant look at shifting the common driveway access
to Lots 1 and 2 easterly 5 feet plus or minus to avoid impacting the existing street
light.
Sharmin Al-Jaff
February 23, 1998
Page 4
In conjunction with the development of Chanhassen East Business Center, staff
had a traffic study prepared for the region. The traffic study indicated acceptable
levels of traffic (service) through the initial phases of Chanhassen East Business
Center. The traffic study also indicated the need for a semaphore at the
intersection of Lake Drive East and Dell Road in the future. This is all dependent
upon phasing or timing of this development and the extension of Dell Road
southerly to Highway 212. The development contract for Chanhassen East
Business Center which included this property did have the requirement that the
properties shall be responsible for their fair share of the cost for future installation
of a traffic signal at the intersection of Dell Road and Lake Drive East. Security to
guarantee payment for the developer's share of the traffic signal will be required in
the development contract.
RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
1. All areas disturbed as a result of construction activities shall be immediately
restored with seed and disc-mulched or wood-fiber blanket or sod within two
weeks of completion of each activity in accordance with the City's Best
Management Practice Handbook.
2. All utility improvements shall be constructed in accordance with the latest
edition of the City's Standard Specifications and Detail Plates or State
Plumbing Codes. Detailed utility plans and specifications shall be submitted in
conjunction with final plat approval for staff review and City Council approval
The private utilities will be inspected by the City's Building Department. The
applicant and/or builder shall be responsible for obtaining the necessary permits
from the City.
3. The applicant shall provide detailed storm sewer calculations and drainage
maps for 10-year and 100-year storm events for the City Engineer to review
and approve prior to final plat approval.
4. The applicant shall enter into a development contract with the City and provide
the necessary financial security to guarantee compliance with the terms of the
development contract.
5. The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate
regulatory agencies, i.e. Carver County,Watershed District,Metropolitan
Waste Control Commission, Health Department and Minnesota Pollution
Control Agency and comply with their conditions of approval
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February 23, 1998
Page 5
6. The appropriate drainage and utility easements should be dedicated on the final
plat for all utilities and ponding areas lying outside the right-of-way. The
easement width shall be a minimum of 20 feet wide depending on pipe depth.
Consideration shall also be given for access for maintenance of the ponding
areas.
7. No berming or landscaping will be allowed within the right-of-way. Landscape
materials shall not be placed within drainage swales or over utility lines. The
applicant may place landscape materials within the drainage and utility
easement conditioned upon the applicant entering into an encroachment
agreement with the City.
8. The lowest floor elevation of all buildings adjacent to wetlands and storm
ponds shall be a minimum of 2 feet above the 100-year high water level.
9. The applicant shall report to the City Engineer the location of any drain tiles
found during construction and shall re-locate or abandon the drain tile as
directed by the City Engineer.
10. The installation of traffic signals at the intersection of Lake Drive East and Dell
Road is expected in the future. The developer shall be responsible or share the
local cost participation of this signal on a percentage basis based upon traffic
generation from full development of this site in relation to the total traffic
volume of Dell Road. Security or other acceptable means to guarantee
payment for the developer's share of this traffic signal for the entire
development will be required.
11. If importing or exporting of earthwork materials is necessary, a haul route and
traffic control plan shall be submitted to the City for review and approval prior
to construction commencing.
12. All driveway access points onto Lake Drive East shall incorporate the
City's industrial driveway apron (Detail Plate No. 5207). Cross access and
maintenance agreements shall be prepared for Lots 1 and 2. The City shall
be included in the use for accessing the regional storm water pond.
13. Dataserv's existing driveway access onto Lake Drive East in the northeast
corner of Lot 4 should be abandoned.
Sharmin Al-Jaff
February 23, 1998
Page 6
14. The common driveway access to Lots 1 and 2 should be relocated to avoid
conflict to the existing street light on Lake Drive East.
15. The developer shall be responsible to obtain a temporary construction
easement from the property/properties for the storm sewer construction
south of Lot 3 in the City of Eden Prairie.
16. The rock construction entrances shall be maintained by the developer until
the parking lots are paved with bituminous. All catch basin inlets shall be
protected with silt fence, rock filter dikes or hay bales as well.
17. A six-foot wide concrete sidewalk shall be constructed along the south side
of Lake Drive East within the entire plat. The proposed sidewalks from the
building shall be extended out to meet the proposed sidewalk along Lake
Drive East.
18. The grading plan shall be revised to include reconstruction of Dataserv's
parking lot and a temporary sediment basin to collect sediment before it
reaches the regional pond.
19. The developer shall review the site conditions prior to construction for
existing erosion control problems or damaged streets and utility
improvements. Once construction activities commence the developer
assumes full responsibility for site conditions and nay corrections prior to
issuance of a certificate of occupancy.
c: Anita Benson, City Engineer
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CITY OF MEMORANDUM
CHANHASSEN TO: Sharmin Al-Jaff,Planner II
FROM: Steve A.Kirchman,Building Official •
690 City Center Drive,PO Box 147
Chanhassen,Minnesota 55317 DATE: February 19, 1998
Phone 612.937.1900
General Fax 612.937.5739 SUBJECT: 98-2 SPR and 98-1 SUB(Welsh Construction Corporation,Chanhassen Pointe
Engineering Fax 612.937.9152 Business Center)
Public Safety Fax 612.934.2524
Web nu'u:ci.chanhassen.mn.ns I was asked to review the site plan proposal stamped"CITY OF CHANHASSEN, RECEIVED, FEB
0 3 19 9 8, CHANHASSEN PLANNING DEPT." for the above referenced project.
Analysis:
Accessibility. The Uniform Building Code Table A-11-A requires 5 accessible parking space be
provided when 101-150 parking stalls are constructed,6 accessible parking spaces when 151-200
parking stalls are constructed and 7 accessible parking spaces when 201-300 parking stalls are
constructed.. The number of accessible spaces proposed on the Preliminary Site Plan is shown
incorrectly. Each parking lot,if constructed as shown,will require one van accessible space.
CABO/ASI A117.1-1992(C/A)requires a van accessible space to have an 8'wide access aisle
Minnesota State Building Code 1340.1120 Subp.2 amends C/A 4.6.4 by requiring a"no parking
access aisle"sign at the head of the access aisle.
Permit requirements. Plans are often bid before the City building code plan review,making
changes necessary for code compliance difficult and expensive to incorporate later. Accordingly,
I would like to request that you relay to the developers and designers my desire to meet with them
as early as possible to discuss commercial building permit requirements and the code review
process..
Recommendations:
The following conditions should be included with the conditions of approval:
1. Revise the parking on the Preliminary Site Plan to comply with the building code.
2. Meet with the Inspections Division plan reviewer as soon as possible after approval to begin
the building code plan review process.
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
690 City Center Drive,PO Box 147
Chanhassen,Minnesota 55317
Phone 612.937.1900
General Fax 612.937.5739 MEMORANDUM
Engineering Fax 612.93.7.915 2
Public Safety Fax 612.934.2524 TO: Sharmin Al-Jaff, Planner II
Web wwucci.chanhassen.run.to
FROM: Mark Littfin, Fire Marshal
DATE: February 17, 1998
SUBJ: Request for a preliminary plat approval to re-plat 39.5 acres into 4 lots;
site plan approval for two 75,000 square foot office industrial buildings
and a 77,700 square foot office industrial building and vacation of
drainage easements on property zoned IOP, Industrial Office Park and
located south of Highway 5,west of Dell Road and south of Lake Drive
East, Welsch Construction Corporation,Chanhassen Pointe Business
Center. Planning Case: 98-1 SUB and 98-2 site plan review.
I have reviewed the site plan for the above project. In order to comply with the
Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division, I have the following fire code or
city ordinance/policy requirements. The site plan is based on the available information
submitted at this time. If additional plan or changes are submitted,the appropriate code
or policy items will be addressed.
1. One additional fire hydrant will be required at the north entrance to the lot 3 parking
lot on the east side of the building.
2. Post Indicator Valves(PIV)will be required for all fire service lines coming into the
building. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location of the PIVs.
3. No parking fire lane signs and yellow curbing will be required. Contact Chanhassen
Fire Marshal for exact location of signs and curbing to be painted yellow.
4. Submit radius turn dimensions to City Engineer and Chanhassen Fire Marshal for
review and approval.
5. The new 8 inch BIP water main should be a loop system coming in off of the water
main off of Lake Drive East.
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6. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding fire department notes to
be included on all site plans. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire
Prevention Policy# 04-1991. (Copy enclosed.)
7. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding pre-fire plans. Pursuant
to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy# 07-1991.
8. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding premise identification.
Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy# 29-1992. Note:
Due to the size of these buildings, additional signs will be required both at the north
end and at the south end of the buildings.
9. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/City of Chanhassen policy regarding
water service installation for commercial and industrial buildings. Pursuant to
Inspection Division Water Service Installation Policy# 34-1993. (Copy enclosed.)
10.Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding maximum allowed size
of domestic water service on a combination domestic fire sprinkler supply line.
Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy# 36-1994.
11.Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department policy regarding fire hydrant installation.
Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy#47-1998. (Copy
enclosed.)
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CITY OF
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690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900 • FAX (612) 937-5739
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT NOTES TO BE INCLUDED ON ALL SITE PLANS
1. Fire Marshal must witness the flushing of underground sprinkler service line, per
NFPA 13-8-2.1.
2. A final inspection by the Fire Marshal before a Certificate of Occupancy is issued.
3. Fire Department access roads shall be provided on site during all phases of
construction. The construction of these temporary roads will conform with the
Chanhassen Fire Department requirements for temporary access roads at
construction sites. Details are available.
4. Onsite fire hydrants shall be provided and in operating condition during all phases
of construction.
5. The use of liquefied petroleum eas shall be in conformance with NFPA Standard
58 and the Minnesota Uniform Fire Code. A list of these requirements is
available. (See policy #33-1993)
6. All fire detection and fire suppression systems shall be monitored by an approved
UL central station with a UL 71 Certificate issued on these systems before final
occupancy is issued.
7. An 11" x 14" As Built shall be provided to the Fire Department. The As Built
shall be reproducible and acceptable to the Fire Marshal. (See policy #07-1991).
8. An approved lock box shall be provided on the building for fire department use.
The lock box should be located by the Fire Department connection or as located
by the Fire Marshal.
Chanhassen Fire Department
Fire Prevention
Policy #04-1991
Date: 11/22/91
Revised: 12/23/94
Page 1 of 2
9. High-piled combustible storage shall comply with the requirements of Article #81
of the Minnesota Uniform Fire Code. High-piled combustible storage is
combustible materials on closely packed piles more than 15' in height or
combustible materials on pallets or in racks more than 12' in height. For certain
special-hazard commodities such as rubber tires, plastics, some flammable liquids,
idle pallets, etc. the critical pile height may be as low as 6 feet.
10. Fire lane signage shall be provided as required by the Fire Marshal. (See policy
#06-1991).
11. Smoke detectors installed in lieu of 1 hour rated corridors under UBC section
3305G, Exception#5 shall comply with Chanhassen Fire Department requirements
for installation and system type. (See policy #05-1991).
12. Maximum allowed size of domestic water service on a combination domestic/fire
sprinkler supply line policy must be followed. (See policy #36-1994).
Chanhassen Fire Department
Fire Prevention
Policy #04-1991
Date: 11/22/91
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Approved - Public Safety Director Page 2 of 2
CITY OF
ClIANBASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
�.r. (612) 937-1900 • FAX (612) 937-5739
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT
POLICY REGARDING PRE-PLAN
Prior to issuing the C .O. , a pre-plan, site plan shall be submitted
to the Fire Department for approval . The following items shall be
shown on the plan.
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2) Building footprint and building dimensions
3 ) Fire lanes and width of fire lanes
4) Water mains and their sizes, indicate looped or dead end
5) Fire hydrant locations
6) P. I .V. - Fire Department connection
7) Gas meter (shut-off) , NSP (shut off)
8) Lock box location
9) Fire walls, if applicable
10) Roof vents, if applicable
11) Interior walls
12) Exterior doors
13 ) Location of fire alarm panel
14) Sprinkler riser location
15) Exterior L . P. storage, if applicable
16) Haz . Mat . storage, if applicable
17) Underground storage tanks locations, if applicable
18) Type of construction walls/roof
19 ) Standpipes
PLEASE NOTE: Plans with topographical information, contour lines,
easement lines, property lines, setbacks, right-of-way lines,
headings, and other related lines or markings, are not acceptable,
and will be rejected.
Chanhassen Fire Department
Fire Prevention
Policy #07-1991
i Date: 01/16/91
;.s Revised: 02/18/94
Approved - Public Safety Director Page 1 of 1
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CHANHASSEN
v 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900 • FAX (612) 937-5739
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY
PREMISES IDENTIFICATION
General
Numbers or addresses shall be placed on all new and existing
buildings in such a position as to be plainly visible and legible
from the street or road fronting the property. Said numbers shall
contrast with their background. Size and location of numbers shall
be approved by one of the following - Public Safety Director,
Building Official, Building Inspector, Fire Marshal.
Requirements are for new construction and existing buildings where
no address numbers are posted.
Other Rewrdrernents-General
1. Numbers shall be a contrasting color from the background.
2. Numbers shall not be In script
3. If a structure Is not visible from the street,additional numbers are required at the driveway entrance. Size
and location must be approved. .=
4. Numbers on mall box at driveway entrance may be a minimum of 4". However,requirement#3 must still
be met
5. Administrative authority may require additional numbers If deemed necessary.
Residential Requirements(2 or less dwelling unit)
1. Minimum height shall be 5 1/4".
2. Building permits will not be finated untess numbers are posted and approved by the Building Department
Commercial Requirements
1. Minimum height shall be 12".
2. Strip Malls
a. Multi tenant building will have minimum height requirements of 6".
b. Address numbers shall be on the main entrance and on all back doors.
3. If address numbers are located on a directory entry sign, additional numbers will be required on the
buildings main entrance.
Chanhassen Fire Department
Fire Prevention
Policy #29-1992
/ Date: 06/15/92
Revised:
Approved - Public Safety Director Page 1 of 1
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690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900 • FAX (612) 937-5739
WATER SERVICE INSTALLATION POLICY
FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS
1) The Inspections Division shall be responsible for issuance of permits. No permit
shall be issued until approval of plans have been obtained from the following:
a) Engineering Department
b) Fire Marshal
c) Minnesota Department of Health
d) Plumbing Inspector
2) Plumbing inspectors will do all installation inspections and witness the hydrostatic
and conductivity tests.
Inspection and Test Requirements
a) All pipe shall be inspected before being covered. Phone 937-1900.
ext. 31, to schedule inspections. A 24 hour notice is required.
b) Conductivity test is required. The pipe shall be subjected to a minimum
350 amp test for a period of not less than 5 minutes.
c) Hydrostatic test required. All pipe shall be subjected to a hydrostatic
pressure of 150 psi for 2 hours. Allowable pressure drop shall not exceed
1. PSI.
d) Pipe shall not be run under buildings - NFPA 24S-3.1.
3) Upon approval of the hydro test, the plumbing inspector shall submit a copy of
the inspection report to the utility superintendent_ The inspection report shall note
whether the system is ready for main flush and drawing of water sample for the
bug test.
Inspections Division
Water Service Installation
Policy #34-1993
Date: 04, 15/93
Revised: 4/17/96
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CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY
MAXIMUM ALLOWED SIZE OF DOMESTIC WATER SERVICE ON A
COMBINATION DOMESTIC/FIRE SPRINKLER SUPPLY LINE
1. Domestic water line shall not be greater than 1/4 pipe size of the
combination service water supply line.
2. 1 1/2"domestic off 6"line.
3. 2" domestic off 8"line.
4. 2 1/2 domestic off 10"line.
Option 1: Domestic sizes may be increased if it can be calculated hydraulically that the
demand by all domestic fixtures will not drop the fire sprinkler water below its
minimum gallonage required.
Option 2: Combination domestic and five line service shall have an electric solenoid valve
installed on the domestic side of the service. This valve shall be normally
powered open and close on loss of electric power or signal from the system
water flow indicator.
Must be approved by the Chanhassen Fire Marshal and Chanhassen
Mechanical Inspector.
Chanhassen Fire Department
Water Line Sizing
Policy#36-1994
Date: 06/10/94
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CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900 • FAX (612) 937-5739
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY
FIRE HYDRANT INSTALLATION
The following, items are procedures for installation, testing, and putting into service new or
relocated fire hydrants:
1. Immediately after installing/ or relocating, a fire hydrant, it must be securely covered by the
contractor with a plastic bagto indicate it is "out of service". The plastic bag may only be
removed for testing of the fire hydrant by city employees.
2. Upon approval of all testing, (hydro, bacteria, flush and conductivity) and city acceptance, the
Chanhassen Utility Department will open the gate valve, remove the plastic bag and flush the
hydrant_
**PLEASE NOTE: The Utility Department requires a 48 hour advance notice to schedule
turning on or off water lines and performing. tests.
3. Only at this point will the hydrant be considered ready for Fire Department operation.
Chanhassen Fire Department
Fire Hydrant Installation
Policy =47-1998
Date: 01/23/98
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Approved - Public afety Director Page 1 of 1
City of Eden Prairie el5
City Offices eeJ�n
8080 Mitchell Road • Eden Prairie, MN 55344-2230 prairie
Phone (612) 949-8300 • TDD (612) 949-8399 • Fax (612) 949-8390
February 20, 1998
Sharmin Al-Jaff
City of Chanhassen
690 City Center Drive
P.O. Box 147
Chanhassen,MN 55317
SUBJECT: CHANHASSEN POINTE BUSINESS CENTER
98-1 SUB and 98-2 SITE PLAN REVIEW
Dear Sharmin:
Thank you for discussing the Chanhassen Pointe Business Center proposal with me on February
12, 1998.
The City of Eden Prairie and developer of the Wynfield project understood that this site would
eventually develop into an industrial use. To help address the future development, a berm and
planting plan was implemented between the properties to provide a mutual screening effort. This
plan assumed that the building design for the industrial site would provide for total screening of
any loading areas from the residential property.
Now that a specific site plan has been prepared for the industrial site,the staff offers the following
comments in addressing the proposed screening transition:
• Based on the developer's landscape sections,it appears that the existing berm will not
provide screening to the parking and loading areas.
• With the addition of a retaining wall along the base of the berm and fence along the peak of
the berm,it would be possible to screen the views to the parking and loading areas.
• The use of 20 foot high downcast cut-off shoebox lighting fixtues,would minimize the
impact of off site glare.
For your convenience I have included a copy of the site sections which illustrate our comments.
Sincerely,
Scott A. Kipp
Senior Planner
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A"€PIAM ENERGY COMPANY
Monday, February 23, 1998
Sharmin Al-Jaff
Chanhassen City of
690 Coulter Drive
Chanhasssen, MN 55317
Dear Sharmin:
This letter affirms the ability of Minnegasco to provide natural gas service in Chanhassen, MN for
Chanhassen Pointe Business Center and Chanhassen Business Center 2"d Edition.
Service will be provided under the rules, regulations and tariffs on file at the time of the
application. If you have any questions or need additional information, please call me at
612-321-5527.
Sincer ,
Robert Huffman
Sales Associate
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700 West Linden Avenue
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FROM : RLK-KUUSISTO, LTD. PHONE NO. : 612 933 1153 Feb. 03 1998 04:27PM P2
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
800 COULTER DRIVE
CHANHASSEN,MN SSW
(612)937.1900
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATION
Welsh Construction Coro OWNER, FP RFP III Li,W tPd Liabilit
APPLICANT: Company, a Delaware Limited Liability C
ADDRESS: 8200 Normandale Bl_.y.4_. StP 200 ADDRESS: d o bEuInvest eats
mmer St.
Mpls, MN 55437-j 60Stamford
612-897-784 TELEPHONE: 203-326-4064
TELEPHONE(Day tame)
Comprehensive Plan Amendment Temporary Sales Permit
Conditional Use Perna ,_,„,. Va:at en o!ROW/Easements
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— ;rtterim Use Permit
— Variance
Non<xnforming Uee Permit —
Wean AlterationPermit
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Planned Unit Development` — Zoning Appeal
Rezoning Zoning Ordinance Amendment
_ Sign Permits •
Sign Man Review Notrcat:on Sign 4 1.5-10 .-
„ Site Plan Review' - 21 („ Escrow for Filing Fees/Attorney Cost'
530 CUP/SPRNACNARWAP Metas
—i� and sounds,5400 Minor SUB) *,4___L:
[ SubdMsr• - TOTAL FEES 43,5Ci5 -
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A list of ail property owners within 1100 feet of the boundaries of the property must be Included with the
application.
Building material samples must be submitted with site plan reviews.
'Twenty-six full size 141.dss!copies of the plans must be submitted,Including en 8Y. X 11"reduced copy of
transpareney for each plan sheet,
"Eecrow will be required for other applications through the development contract
NOTE•When multiple applications are processed,the epproprlate fee shati be charged for each apc!i;icon.
FEB-03-98 TUE 11 :06 AM FAX NO. P. 03/04
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PROJECT NAME C . aa. -a '• - • - . a- -a -r
LOCATION • a • ake D • - • . - a I- f•. •
LEGAL DESCRIPTION Lot 1 , Bl • 1.11. - • t •- -a -
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TOTAL ACREAGE 39.5
VVETLANOS PRESENT YES X NO
PRESENT ZONING._ Industrial_Qf Lce Park _
REQUESTED ZONING No Change •
PRESENT LAND USE DESIGNATION Office/Industrial/ Medium density residential
REQUESTED LAND USE DESIGNATION No Change
REASON FOR THIS REQUEST Subdivision of 39.5 acres with 4 lots and three new buildings.
Refer to attached narrative plans.
This application must be completed In full and be typewritten or clearly printed Ind must be accompanied by all Information
end plans required by applicable City Ordinance provisions. Before filing this epplloation,you should confer with the Planning
Department to determine the specific ordinance and procedural requirements applicable to your application.
A determination of completeness of the application shall be made within ten business days of application aubmlttai. A written
notice of application deficiencies shall be mailed to the applicant within ten business days of application.
Theis is to oertlfy that I am making application for the described action by the City end that I am responsible for complying with
ali City requ!rements with regard to ails request This application should be processed in my name and I am the party whom
the City should contact regarding any matter pertaining to this application, I have attached a copy of proof of ownership
(either copy of Owner's Duplicate Certificate of Title, Abstract of Tale or purchase agreement), or em the authorized person
to make this application and the fee owner has also signed this application.
I will keep myself informed of the deadlines for submission of materiel end the progress of this application. I further
understand that additional fees may be charged for consulting fees, feasibility eddies, etc. with an estimate prior to any
atuti}ortzation to proceed with the study. The documents end information 1 have submitted are true and correct to the best of
my knowledge.
The city hereby notifies the applicant that development review cannot be completed within 80 days due to public hearing
requirements and agency review. Therefore, the city Is notifying the applicant that the city requires an automatic 80 day
extension for development review. Development review shall be completed within 120 days unless additional review
extensions are approved by the applicant
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The applicant should contact staff fors copy of the staff reportt which will llbe available on Frldsy prior to the meeting.
if not contacted, a copy of the report will be malted to the app r1
Welsh Construction
Chanhassen Pointe Business Center
East Lake Drive and Dell Road
Chanhassen, Minnesota
Project Narrative
Submitted February 4, 1998
Introduction
This project narrative is being submitted on behalf of Welsh Construction for a proposed
development in the southwest corner of Dell Road and Lake Drive East, in the City of Chanhassen.
The proposed development consists of three(3)new office/warehouse buildings on individual lots
and a reorganized lot for the existing GE(Dataserv)building. The buildings on Lots 1 and 2 each
consist of approximately 75,000 square feet and the building on Lot 3 is approximately 77,700
square feet. In total,Welsh is proposing a development consisting of 227,700 square feet of
office/warehouse. The office component of the proposed development is anticipated to be 40%
percent of the aggregate floor area. Including the existing GE(Dataserv)parcel,the Chanhassen
Pointe Business Center development will encompass approximately 39.5 acres of property and
378,700 sq. ft. of building.
Bloomington, Minnesota based Welsh is the largest full service real estate firm in the upper
Midwest. The company and its affiliates own,manage,lease,design,build,and develop office,
office/warehouse,distribution, retail,and light industrial facilities. The company is currently
developing over 1.1 million square feet of industrial space in Minnesota,Wisconsin,Iowa,and
Kansas. The company also currently manages and leases over 21,500,000 square feet of industrial
properties. Greg Voss of Welsh Construction Corporation will be the Project Manager(612-897-
7843)for this development and will be assisted by the company's President,Greg Anderson(612-
397-7850).
Mr. Lynn Sloat of Genesis Architects is the project architect and will be responsible for the
building design and detail. Each building will be similar in design and shape,but will be
individually detailed with glass tint,framing, color,embossed panels and color motif.
RLK-Kuusisto, Ltd. is serving as surveyor site planner,engineering and landscape architectural
consultant for this project. RLK-Kuusisto, Ltd. is a planning,design and engineering firm located
in Minnetonka. The firm has extensive previous experience in working with the City of
Chanhassen and the selected project area over the past two years. John Dietrich,ASLA and David
Patten are the principal contacts for this project.
Submittal
The submittal is for a preliminary and final plat approval and site plan review and approval of
approximately 39.5 acres of property located south of Lake Drive East and west of Dell Road.
The subject property is guided for"Office/Industrial" land uses and is zoned office industrial park.
The proposal is consistent with the current zoning, comprehensive guide plan and meets all code
compliance criteria.
February 1998 NARRATIVE
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The material submitted with this narrative includes a completed application form for a preliminary
and final plat/site plan approval, list of properties with names and addresses within 500 feet of the
property, and a check for$3,595.00. In addition, the following plan sheets are being submitted:
Sheet 1 of 12: Cover sheet
Sheet 2 and 3 of 12: Preliminary plat/Existing Conditions
Sheet 4 of 12: Preliminary site plan
Sheet 5 of 12: Preliminary grading, drainage, and erosion control plan
Sheet 6 of 12: Preliminary utility plan
Sheet 7 of 12: Preliminary landscape plan
Sheet 8 of 12: General details sheet
Sheet 9 of 12: Landscape detail sheet
Sheet 10 of 12 Cross sectional plan
Sheet 11 of 12: Building floor plan (Sheet Al)
Sheet 12 of 12: Building elevations (Sheet A2)
This preliminary plat application for Welsh Construction consisting of 39.5 acres is being
submitted on behalf of GE,the current property owner.
Existing Conditions
The subject property is 39.5 acres in size. The property is bounded by Lake Drive East to the
north, Dell Road to the east,the Chanhassen/Eden Prairie municipal boundary and residential
properties to the south and residential properties and park land to the west. The site contains the
existing GE(Dataserv) office, manufacturing/warehouse facility consisting of 151,000 square feet.
The existing legal description is Lot 1, Block 2 of the Chanhassen East Business Center. A
regional storm water drainage pond has been built adjacent to Dell Road which has been properly
sized to accept this proposed development. The existing topography on the eastern 20 plus acres
was shaped by the placement of over burden material during the construction of the CSM building
north of Lake Drive East. Located along the south property is a 50 foot wide easement for
landscape planting and burning. This existing berm will be enhanced and raised to help buffer the
proposed development. The existing drainage swale from the residential properties and the existing
GE(Dataserv)building and parking lot will be placed into a storm sewer system and conveyed to
the regional pond,the existing GE(Dataserv)building contains the following space allocations and
parking requirements.
Use Sq. Ft. Parking Requirements Parking Stalls
Required
Office 87,000 3.5/1,000 sq. ft. 304
Manufacturing 34,000 1/1,000 sq. ft. 34
Warehouse 30,000 1/10,000* 20
1 /2,000
TOTAL 151,000 358
*One stall per 1,000 sq. ft. up to 10,000 sq. ft. and one stall per 2,000 sq. ft. over 10,000 sq. ft.
Subsequent to the reconstruction of the east side of the existing parking lot as shown on the site
development plan a total of 408 parking stalls will be provided on Lot 4, an excess of 50 stalls over
code requirements.
February 1998 NARRATIVE
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Preliminary Plat
Four lots are being proposed on the property as part of the preliminary plat identified as
Chanhassen Pointe Business Center. Block 2 of Chanhassen East Business Center will be replatted
into four new lots. Three new lots are being created and the fourth lot will encompass the existing
building and parking lot. There are two easements which will be vacated: 1.)a public drainage
and utility easement which conveys storm water from East Lake Drive to the pond and 2.)a private
drainage easement conveying run-off to the pond along the swale created during the regional pond
construction. The proper easements will be platted to allow the public system to operate and the
regional pond will remain in a drainage and utility easement as part of Lot 1, Block 1, Chanhassen
Pointe Business Center. A second drainage and utility is proposed which will convey the Eden
Prairie residential properties stormwater to the regional pond. The following chart outlines the
proposed site criteria.
Name: Chanhassen Pointe Business Center,Block 1
Acreage: 39.48 acres
Lot Lot Acreage Building Sq. Ft. Percent Impervious Percent Green
Lot 1 8.09 75,000 49 51
Lot 2 5.81 75,000 69 31
Lot 3 6.38 77,700 70 30
Lot 4 19.20 151,000* 44 56
TOTAL 39.48 378,700 58% 42%
*Denotes existing building
Preliminary Site Plan
The site plan consists of three proposed buildings specifically designed for
office/warehouse/distribution use. The three new buildings will consist of 227,700 square feet.
Sufficient parking has been provided for 40%office and the balance of warehouse/distribution.
The buildings are oriented in a north south direction with offices on one side and the truck/service
areas on the other side of the structure. The loading/service area are screened from the public
right-of-way by the buildings,beaming and dense landscaping. The applicant has enhanced the
berm and landscape buffer to the south and, in fact,Welsh Construction proposes to extend the 50
foot wide landscape easement west along the entire south side of Lot 3.
The buildings are setback 30 feet from Lake Drive East and approximately 120 feet from the
southern property line. No parking is proposed along the north side of the buildings which will
provide a substantial landscape yard along Lake Drive East for each of the three lots.
The parking areas are also setback from the public right-of-way 40 feet vs.the standard 20 feet to
provide a wider planting/landscape edge along the public right-of-way.
The spatial requirements of the loading dock areas and need to park the plan at 40%office,
requires the site plan to encroach into the existing GE parking lot. As shown on the plans,the
proposal will encompass approximately 80 feet of existing parking lot. Each lot will be parked in
excess of code requirements and will be at or below the impervious ratio. The overall development
results in a 58%impervious ratio vs.the code requirements of 70%.
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Sidewalks running the entire length of the front of each building will be provided. Four access
locations are shown for each building but depending upon the tenant mix,these may be slightly
modified. The parking lots are only one bay in width and are shown with landscape islands which
will bisect the linear nature of each parking area. Also identified on the site plan, are proof of
parking stalls which are available if the need for parking increases in the future. The proof of
parking stalls have been calculated as hard surface in the impervious ratio percentages. Based on
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the proof of parking stall location, some of the stalls will be landscaped upon the initial installation
especially along the south side of each building.
Located on Lot 1 is the regional stormwater pond for the Welsh Construction, GE(Dataserv)and
the CSM properties. The regional pond is within a drainage and utility easement to enable the City
to maintain the pond as required. Welsh Construction intends to utilize the pond as an amenity to
the development and the ponds western edge will be landscaped, sodded, irrigated and maintained
by Welsh Construction. Benning and landscaping will also be installed along the north side of the
pond to "visually" extend the landscape and site development to Dell Road.
Preliminary Grading, Drainage and Erosion Control Plan
The City of Chanhassen stormwater management plan established the need for a regional
stormwater pond to be constructed with any development on the GE (Dataserv), or CSM
properties. Accordingly, CSM constructed the 12.0 acre foot stormwater pond prior to any
development occurring with this area. The approved CSM plan was to utilize the existing drainage
ditch within an existing drainage and utility easement on the GE property to channel the water to
the regional stormwater pond. The proposed plan is to collect the stormwater from Lake Drive
East in a pipe between buildings one and two, route the water south and then east along the south
side of building one to the pond.
The three proposed lots identify finished floor elevations (FFE) ranging from 918 to 930.5. The
buildings step up with the topography and will continue to utilize the berm on the south to screen
the parking and loading areas from the residential properties to the south. All stormwater will be
collected along the curb lines running north to south for each property and directed to the
stormwater pond. The existing GE parking lot storm sewer will be integrated into the new storm
sewer improvements as well as the storm sewer from the Eden Prairie residential properties.
Welsh Companies is proposing to construct a berm along the southwest portion of the site to
provide an additional buffer between the new development and the residential properties. The site
may require an export of soil,the haul routes and locations will be discussed and approved by the
City prior to any earthwork operations being undertaken.
Preliminary Utility Plan
The utility plan provides the subject property with sanitary sewer and water facilities of sufficient
size and depth to support the anticipated uses in the three(3)buildings. These utilities will be
connected to existing public utilities located in Lake Drive East.
February 1998 NARRATIVE
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Lake Drive East has sufficient infrastructure for watermain and sanitary sewer to service this site.
Existing stubs for the sanitary sewer and watermain are proposed to be utilized. It is anticipated
new 8" watermains will be connected to the 6" stubs for the proper water distribution to provide a
looped watermain for the three lots. The watennain will loop the buildings and all fire hydrants
will be installed acceptable to the Fire Marshals recommendation. Verification of the pressure and
volume of water is being researched to avoid making a new 8" connection to the watermain.
Preliminary Landscape Plan
The landscape plan has utilized plant materials from the City's suggested planting list. The plan
incorporates a variety of overstory trees, ornamental trees and shrubs. The western edge of the
pond has also been landscaped in order to provide an aesthetic amenity to Lot 1 and the people
utilizing Dell Road. The landscape plan utilizes clusters of plantings interspersed with boulevard
trees at a consistent spacing along the Lake Drive East right of way. Along the southern berm
additional plantings have been added. Each lot will have an underground sprinkler system and the
irrigation limits are shown on the plan. The landscape plan exceeds code requirements of 1%of
building and site construction value. The landscape plan also includes approximately 18,500 sq.
ft. of peninsular landscape area. The planting plan has concentrated the plant material along Lake
Drive East and the southern berm. The plan provides a variety of plant material year round color
and significant screening of the parking and loading/service areas. The landscape plan has
incorporated entry monument signs and located a development sign at the southwest corner of Dell
Road and Lake Drive East.
Architectural Description
The majority of the buildings exteriors will be comprised of 12" insulated precast concrete wall
panels. In an attempt to reduce the building scale,the sides and building fronts have been
articulated to create different building wall planes and shaded and shadows. The main wall
surfaces have been designed using both an exposed colored aggregate(corduroy) panel and a
aggregate sand finish panel. This combination allows for a nice change in texture and accents the
glass areas.
The main entrance areas have been recessed from the main building line and contain a reversed
steel form, smooth painted finish. The panel is formed with cast-in reveals creating a continuance
from the adjacent units. The lower portions of the entries contain rock face concrete block to
windowsill height forming another texture change and a more human scale entry point.
The entrances/windows will be anodized aluminum thermo break framing and 1" insulated tinted
solar glazing.
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CITY OF MEMORANDUM
CIIANHASSENTO: Kate Aanenson, Planning Director
690 City Center Drive,PO Box 14- FROM: Dave Hempel, Assistant City Engineer
Chanhassen,Minnesota 55317
Phone 612.9371900 DATE: February 25, 1998
General Fax 612937.5739
Engineering Fax 612.937.9152 SUBJ: Consider Amendment to City Code Section 18-57(g)(1),
Public Safety Fax 612.934.2524 Driveway Access Onto Collector Roads- First Reading
Web www.ci.chanhassen.mn.us File No. PW-375
Over the last year the City has had residential and commercial subdivisions which
involved direct driveway access from lots onto collector roads. Current City Code
(18-57,1) prohibits direct vehicular or pedestrian access from individual lots to such
highways or streets (roads). The City in the past has approved numerous
subdivision (Woodridge Heights,The Meadows at Longacres, Chanhassen East
Business Center, Arboretum Business Park and Brenden Pond) with direct
driveway access from individual lots or combined lots since there were no other
feasible means of accessing the property. The ordinance amendment would
represent past practice and give the City Engineer the authority to review and
approve the direct driveway accesses from individual lots to collector roads on a
case by case basis in the future.
The other ordinance amendment is in Section 18-57(g). This ordinance
amendment is in an effort to improve street drainage. Staff is proposing to
increase the minimum centerline grade from 0.5% to 0.75%.
RECOMMENDATION
Attached is a copy of an ordinance amending Chapter 18 of the Chanhassen City
Code Subdivision Ordinance concerning streets, Section 18-57(g)(1)prepared by
the City Attorney's office. The changes are denoted by strike out and/or shaded. It
is therefore recommended that the Planning Commission and City Council adopt
this ordinance amending Chapter 18-57(g)(1) of the City code.
Attachment: Amendment to Ordinance Chapter 18-57 concerning streets.
c: Anita Benson, City Engineer
Charles Folch, Director of Public Works Operations
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g:'enedave\Qc\amend 18-57.doc
The City of Chanhassen.A growing community with clean lakes,quality schools,a charming downtown,thriving businesses,and beautiful parks.A great place to live,work,and play
0224%98 TUE 14:56 FAX 612 452 5550 CAMPBELL CH ENG 2002
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES, MINNESOTA
ORDINANCE NO.
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 18 OF THE
CHANHASSEN CITY CODE, THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE,
CONCERNING STREETS
THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CHANHASSEN ORDAINS:
SECTION 1. Section 18-57, subsection (g) of the Chanhassen City Code is amended
to read:
(g) All centerline grades shall be at least {five tenths percent}. J and shall
not exceed five (5) percent for arterials, and seven (7) percent for all other streets
alleys}. Whenever possible, grades within thirty (30) feet of intersections or railroad
crossings shall not exceed three (3) percent.
SECTION 2. Section 18-57, subsection (1) of the Chanhassen City Code is amended to
read:
(1) Where a proposed subdivision is adjacent to a limited access highway,
arterial, or collector street, there shall be no direct vehicular or pedestrian access from
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individual lots to such highways or streets t �� 4 N,a•.a ; # & "�'a� .tr ,xilE WR
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To the extent feasible, access to arterial streets shall be at intervals of not less than one-
fourth mile and through existing and established crossroads. Access along collector
streets will be restricted and controlled on the final plat.
SECTION 3. This ordinance shall be effective immediately upon its passage and
publication.
PASSED AND ADOPTED this _ day of , 1998, by the City Council
of the City of Chanhassen.
ATTEST:
Don Ashworth, Clerk/Manager Nancy K. Mancino, Mayor
(Published in the Chanhassen Villager on , 1998).
59572.oz
A2/24/913
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 18, 1998
Chairman Peterson called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: LuAnn Sidney, Craig Peterson, Matt Burton, Allyson Brooks, Alison
Blackowiak, and Kevin Joyce. Ladd Conrad arrived during item 3, after the public hearings.
STAFF PRESENT: Kate Aanenson, Planning Director; Bob Generous, Senior Planner;
Sharmin Al-Jaff, Planner II; Dave Hempel,Asst. City Engineer; and Todd Hoffman, Park and
Recreation Director
PUBLIC HEARING:
SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR A 24,638 SQ. FT. OFFICE/WAREHOUSE ADDITION TO
WAYTEK, INC., LOCATED SOUTH OF THE TWIN CITIES RAILROAD AND WEST
OF DELL ROAD, 7660 QUATTRO DRIVE, SWEDENBORG-SHAW CONSTRUCTION,
INC.
Sharmin Al-Jaff presented the staff report on this item.
Peterson: Questions of staff?
Sidney: Now you gave us a sheet with additional conditions.
Al-Jaff: Yes, and I read those conditions off.
Sidney: Okay.
Peterson: A couple questions Sharmin. As it relates to the traffic proposal, it seems as though
we get these a lot with trash enclosures kind of coming in as an after thought and anytime we are
given the detail about color and the tone and feel of the building and yet we're not seeing what
can really be a negative to the building. How come the trash is always kind of secondary and in
many cases we're not even seeing it because it's going through with the condition of approval
anyway?
Al-Jaff: In this case we did speak to the applicant. The trash enclosure is going to be inside the
building. Typically if it's a site plan, let's say it's in a central business district or a visible area,
we do require the applicant to show where that's going.
Peterson: More importantly I think Kate, as a future reference. I've seen, well we see a lot of
them without it and it's I think having a pre-requisite. Important as they seemingly are, and
we're making big issues of a lot of other things. That can be a truly a sight sore that...
Aanenson: That's point noted.
Planning Commission Meeting -February 18, 1998
Peterson: Going to condition number 13. Talk about the light fixtures and we don't really talk
about whether or not they're going to be the same as the existing or not. We should obviously
make an effort to make them as close to the same as possible. Just a matter of, that can be rather
unsightly also. Other questions of staff? With that, would the applicant or their designee wish
to address the Planning Commission? If so,please come forward and state your name and
address.
Jack Shaw: Jack Shaw. I'm with Swendenborg-Shaw Construction. We're excited about the
project and I'm here this evening with Bob Lamaroo, a principle of Waytek and open to any
questions you may have.
Peterson: A quick one for you. On the side towards the railroad tracks, and towards the houses
in Eden Prairie. Quite often we may forget that those are residents that look at that,basically
from the back of their house, on a regular basis. We didn't seem to put much, pay much
attention to dealing in the tone of the back...all of that Fabcon stuff I would. Is there anything
that we can do to maybe mitigate the coldness of that so that when you wake up in the morning
you go...
Jack Shaw: I worked with staff on that and we have discussed that. The grade is rather high in
the back of the lot there so the wall's about 20 feet tall. Approximately, and we have a grade
differential of about 8 feet. So a lot of that is taken up in the grade itself It's also heavily,
heavily screened with some very mature oaks and maples in the back of the building there.
Peterson: I really couldn't get a sense in driving by how far back are the trees from the building?
Al-Jaff: There is a 20 foot easement and that is currently occupied by...and then you have the
railroad tracks. And on the residential side there's another probably 10 feet of mature trees and
then you have the houses.
Joyce: It's...seeing the homes now without vegetation, you know. Certainly six months a year
there's no...
Peterson: Other questions...? Thanks. This is a public hearing. May I have a motion...to open
the public hearing.
Joyce moved, Sidney seconded to open the public hearing. The public hearing was opened.
Peterson: This is a public hearing. Anyone wishing to address the commission, please come
forward please. Seeing none, may I have a motion to close the public hearing and a second.
Joyce moved, Sidney seconded to close the public hearing. The public hearing was closed.
Peterson: Any comments Matt, on this project?
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Burton: Not really. It seems to have met all the criteria that are laid out in the staff report and it
seems to make sense. So I don't have any problems with this project.
Peterson: Alison.
Blackowiak: My only question today, I talked to Sharmin about the drive aisle width and that's
been addressed so I have no other comments.
Brooks: I have no comments.
Peterson: LuAnn.
Sidney: I have no problems with the development as proposed. I guess I did have some concerns
about the mature trees, where that would be affected by a proposed driveway. However, I guess
looking at the site I can't really see any other choice and I guess I would encourage the applicant
to really try their darnedest to preserve the trees on the north side, because I think those are
significant trees. So I'd vote...
Joyce: No problems.
Peterson: I concur with, the only additional things would be the comments I said earlier. With
that may I have a motion please.
Joyce: I'll make a motion the staff recommends the Planning Commission recommend approval
of Site Plan Request #88-2 for a 24,683 square foot addition as shown on plans dated received
January 16, 1998 and subject to conditions 1 through 21. Adding to that condition 13, to make
an attempt to have similar lighting as the existing development. Condition 20 to read, all parking
lot drive aisles shall meet City Code Section 20-1101. And condition 21, depending on storm
sewer calculation, additional catch basins may be required in the easterly parking lot to intercept
runoff prior to draining onto Quattro Drive.
Peterson: Second please.
Burton: Second.
Peterson: Any discussion?
Joyce moved, Burton seconded that the Planning Commission recommend approval of Site
Plan #88-2 for a 24,683 square foot addition (Waytek, Inc.) as shown on the plans dated
received January 16, 1998, subject to the following conditions:
1. The existing catch basin on Quattro Drive shall be protected with rock filter dikes until all
disturbed areas on the site have been restored.
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2. Storm sewer calculations for a 10 year, 24 hour storm event shall be submitted to the City
Engineering Department for review and approval prior to issuance of a building permit.
3. The haul routes for exporting material from the site shall be approved by the City Engineer
prior to issuance of a building permit.
4. The grading plans shall be revised to include an erosion control fence detail, revised
Chanhassen Standard Detail Plate for an industrial driveway(No. 5207) and rock
construction entrance detail No. 5301. In addition, erosion control fence shall be installed
adjacent to Quattro Drive once the existing driveway is abandoned.
5. Sanitary sewer and water hookup charges shall be applied to the building permit. The
charges shall be based upon the number of SAC units determined by the Metropolitan
Council Environmental Services.
6. The applicant shall obtain the necessary construction access easement to perform grading
on the adjacent property prior to any issuance of a building permit.
7. The applicant and/or contractor shall be responsible for adjusting the existing water service
proposed in the easterly driveway access.
8. The contractor and/or developer shall contact the City's Engineering Department for
inspection of the driveway apron and curb/street restoration prior to pouring the concrete.
A 24 hour notice is required to schedule an inspection.
9. Plans for trash enclosure and rooftop screening shall be submitted to staff for approval. All
roof top equipment shall be screened from views.
10. The applicant shall enter into a Site Plan Agreement. Financial guarantees for landscaping
shall be submitted to the City at the time of building permit application.
11. The applicant must install tree protection fencing prior to construction. Fencing must be
inspected by city staff before work is allowed to begin.
12. The applicant shall add 7 trees to the landscape plan. Four shall be planted on the east side
of the new parking lot and three shall be planted at the southeast corner of the property.
The trees shall be a mix of oak and sugar maple.
13. The light fixtures may not exceed 0.5 foot candles of light from fixtures at the property and
attempt to have similar lighting to the remaining existing development.
14. The applicant shall install tree protection fencing around all preserved trees (within
construction limits) before site grading can commence.
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15. The applicant shall comply with the conditions of the conservation easement located on the
northerly 20 feet of the property. No trees will be allowed to be removed within the
easement.
16. Fire Marshal recommendations:
a. Regarding the new access off of Quattro Drive, submit grade dimensions to the City
Engineer and Fire Marshal for approval. Pursuant to 1991 Uniform Fire Code Section
10.204(f).
b. "No Parking Fire Lane"signs shall be installed. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for
exact location. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy#06-
1991.
c. Submit utility plans to the City Engineer and Fire Marshal for approval.
17. Park and trail fees shall be paid at the time of building permit.
18. Approval of this site plan is contingent upon consolidation of Lots 3 and 4, Block 1, Park
One 3`d Addition(provide proof of single Parcel Identification Number).
19. Building Official recommendations:
a. The developers and/or designers should meet with a representative of the Inspections
Division as early as possible to discuss commercial building permit requirements.
Principals should be aware of many of these requirements before the project is bid.
20. The parking lot drive aisles shall meet City Code Section 20-1101.
21. Depending on storm sewer calculations, an additional catch basin may be required in
the easterly parking lot to intercept runoff prior to draining onto Quattro Drive.
All voted in favor and the motion carried.
PUBLIC HEARING:
REQUEST FOR A LOT SPLIT ON LOT 2, BLOCK 4,HIGHOVER ADDITION,FOR
DEVELOPMENT OF A WELL SITE. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF
LONGACRES DRIVE ON THE EAST SIDE OF HWY. 41 (HAZELTINE BLVD.),WEST
OF HIGHOVER DRIVE AND SOUTH OF LAKE LUCY ROAD, CITY OF
CHANHASSEN.
Sharmin Al-Jaff presented the staff report on this item.
Peterson: Questions of staff?
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Blackowiak: I have one question. Regarding access. Could either Sharmin or Dave clarify the
frequency of trips to the well house proposed, either you know in and out or on a daily or weekly
basis?
Hempel: Certainly Mr. Chairman, Planning Commissioners. The City's utility department visits
the site once a day, approximately. Sometimes twice. But for sure every morning.
Peterson: Questions?
Burton: What will the actual physical structure of the well house look like? Is that...?
Hempel: I don't believe the drawings have been completed yet but it's going to be similar to the
well house that's located on Lake Lucy Road, in the Brenden Ponds subdivision. It's actually
about 3 blocks away from this location. It's a brick structure with a, what roof would I call
that? Pitched roof, thank you. Yes. It's actually a very attractive building.
Joyce: Is that normally, I was going to say the one on Lyman and Audubon, is that a well house?
Hempel: That is a lift station. It's similar to that style but much smaller.
Joyce: But much smaller, okay.
Hempel: It's about 20 x 35 or 30 feet in size. One story.
Peterson: Do we normally not see that prior to being built, as far as the plans?
Al-Jaff: Typically we've brought them before you simultaneously.
Peterson: So what you're saying is that we will see the plan prior to it being built then, or not?
Aanenson: Sure, we can submit them to you. The reason that this got done is it was on a fast
track to acquire the property. And so we wanted to approve the subdivision. If the subdivision
wasn't approved, they weren't going to take it the next step but we'll certainly bring you back the
plans. But it's our intention to build it just exactly like the one on Brenden Pond and that's the
brick.
Peterson: If we don't do as I say,not as I do.
Aanenson: Correct. Absolutely.
Peterson: This is a, can I have a motion for a public hearing and a motion and a second please.
Blackowiak moved, Brooks seconded to open the public hearing. The public hearing was
opened.
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Peterson: Public hearing. Anyone wishing to address the Planning Commission, please come
forward. Seeing none, may I have a motion and a second to close the public hearing.
Blackowiak moved, Brooks seconded to close the public hearing. The public hearing was
closed.
Peterson: Comments from commissioners. Kevin?
Sidney: So problem.
Burton: You move fast.
Peterson: We're on the fast track up here. Okay, I agree. May I have a motion and a second
please?
Sidney: I'll make the motion that the Planning Commission recommends approval of the
preliminary plat for Subdivision#98-2 for Highover 2nd Addition for one lot and one outlot as
shown on the plans received January 29, 1998 subject to the following conditions and that's 1
through 6.
Burton: Second.
Peterson: It's been moved and seconded. Any discussion?
Sidney moved, Burton seconded that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the
preliminary plat for Subdivision #98-2 for Highover 2nd Addition for one lot and one outlot
as shown on the plans received January 29, 1998, subject to the following conditions:
1. All areas disturbed during site grading shall be immediately restored with seed and disc-
mulched or wood fiber blanket within two weeks of completing site grading unless the
city's (BMPH) planting dates dictate otherwise. All areas disturbed with side slopes of 3:1
or greater shall be restored with sod or seed and wood fiber blanket.
2. Lot 2 is still subject to the approved landscaping plan for Highover 1St Addition. The well
site if subject to the new landscape plan which will provide year round screening.
3. The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies,
i.e. Watershed District, MWCC, Health Department, PCA, DNR, Army Corps of
Engineers, Carver County Highway Department and MnDOT and comply with their
conditions of approval.
4. The applicant shall report to the City Engineer the location of any drain tiles found during
construction and shall relocate or abandon the drain tiles as directed by the City Engineer.
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5. The grading and erosion control plan shall be in conformance with the City's Best
Management Practice Handbook and the Surface Water Management Plan requirements for
new developments.
6. Lot 1 shall be platted as an outlot,and Lot 2 shall be changed to Lot 1, Block 1, Highover
2"d Addition.
All voted in favor and the motion carried.
Aanenson: Mr. Hoffman isn't here yet so if it'd be all right with you, maybe we can do some of
the other housekeeping items, because item number 4 will take some time. Instead of breaking
the continuity of that, it might work, if that's okay,to go down.
ONGOING ITEMS:
Aanenson: LuAnn had asked that I review the work session that we had last week, so I'm just
going to briefly bring you up to date. The Old Town, we visited that site. Tried to get up to
speed on some of the issues out there. Sharmin and Cindy have been diligently working on that
project. There will be a meeting February 24`h at 6:00 at the Senior Center. Any of you that can
attend, it would be great. I know Kevin attended last time. I think someone else, Craig did too
so that's great. So there's a tentative, additional issues were addressed and they're on to the next
level of that plan so again, that would be the 24`h. And you sent that out to everybody that was
there last time too. These just went out today so. So that's what's happening on that. We also
talked about the LM treatment on Lake Susan. Trying to get rid of the,bring back the quality of
that lake. Today they did do the carp harvest. 20,000 pounds of carp were removed from the
lake. They were expecting 10,000 but they got 20,000 pounds of carp from the lake. And there
was only like 7 game fish in the lake so, so they had to get out there quickly. I think they were
mobilized a little bit sooner based on the weather conditions and they had to do it under the
frozen ice conditions so. The next stage with them would actually be treating the lake and then
hopefully restocking and then having a better quality lake. So we talked about that too. Then
Phil also described the two water quality projects that we're trying to work on. The wetlands, the
one south of Lyman,between Autumn Ridge and the industrial property adjacent to Galpin. And
the other one would be north on Galpin between TH 41 and Galpin into like a 5. Increasing the
water in those wetlands and increasing the habitat and natural features of that so we think those
are good projects. Again,working with the state and getting some wetland banking credits so we
kind of described those two projects. And also I handed you copies of the goals and we just
talked about those too so again the main focus is finishing up the comp plan. So that's what I
had for ongoing. I can maybe just mention at the next Planning Commission, we'll be having
three industrial site plans. Industrial continues to be very active. That's what we'll be seeing
mostly this summer. And then we've got a minor code amendment. So that will be for our next
meeting. That's all I had.
Peterson: I've already read this. If you didn't,a couple interesting articles about planning
commission goals...The other one is making planning commissions more effective. A couple
good succinct articles. Just things...food for thought.
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Aanenson: And I did also pass out the list of assignments for council meetings so I hope
everybody got that. If you can't make it, if you want to switch with somebody or let me know or
see...but just let me know if you can't attend. It's helpful to have somebody else act as a liaison
to follow things through so it's good.
Peterson: Any...as far as potential...
Aanenson: Pardon me?
Peterson: Have you seen more on Villages...?
Aanenson: Additional restaurant. Looking at, to go with the Americana Inn. Americana Inn's
almost complete. That's about it.
Burton: What items do we know are going in there for sure so far?
Aanenson: An office building. Famous Dave's. A retail building that would be adjacent to
Great Plains, on that side.
Burton: And in terms of tenants, I heard there was an Old Navy.
Aanenson: Those are some of the things they're looking at, correct. In the retail portion. To our
knowledge. I mean they haven't come in as, for that site plan. Those would be the core
buildings on the Main Street and Lake Drive.
Peterson: A sing along or something to fill the time. Did we get much more feedback from the
residents on the trail changes that we've kind of put, are recommending tonight?
Aanenson: Yes, and Todd's been spearheading that as far as the comments so I think I'll let him
to kind of go through it and summarize those.
Peterson: I'm trying to get filler here Kate and you're not helping.
Aanenson: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm just...yeah, we will be seeing some additional final plats
that are going to the council as far as the Woods and the Meadows. Again, I don't think we're
going to see a substantial resubdivision this year. What we'll be seeing is the continuation of
final plats and.
1997 TRAIL REFERENDUM PROJECTS-REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION.
Hoffman: I apologize for being a little bit late. What I'd like to review with the commission this
evening is the...the 1998 trail project which were tabled the last time we were here. Namely the
Galpin Boulevard trail and Powers Boulevard trail. As you recall, the issues outstanding at that
time included the potential deletion of the trail segment on Galpin north of Lake Lucy Road,
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which has since been added back into the project, and then issues on Powers Boulevard, the
proximity to existing dwellings,namely south of Kerber Boulevard at the townhome location.
These,I've got a copy for the audience...Galpin back here with the green...here's Powers... And
at the time I don't think there was a great deal of confusion on the south half of Galpin. It starts
just north of Highway 5 on the east side of the road at the existing terminus. You can zoom right
in. There we go. It starts at the existing terminus. There's a little stub trail put in the Galpin
redevelopment and the stop light installation at that location,and it comes up on the east side
again past the new Walnut Grove development and continues north to a point of crossing,on the
second sheet,at Brinker Street. As commissioners may recall,originally we had talked about a
crossing at Majestic Way. There was concern about sight lines at that location. The sight lines
were indeed adequate at Majestic Way but they are better at Brinker Street and so we have
moved that crossing down to Brinker Street. And when it crosses it, it immediately joins city
property at this location at about a 5 acre neighborhood park which as yet unnamed. Currently
referred to as the Forest Meadow parkland,or Galpin Boulevard parkland, and that neighborhood
park will also be developed as a part of the 1997 park referendum. So there's little, other than
this crossing,there's little change in the southern portion of the trail. It continues north on the
west side past the Longacres development. The Woods at Longacres on this side. These
intersections were designed with the help of the developer and our engineering staff at the time of
these developments,to allow for the trails so it works very well through this location. It
continues north to the second entrance, into the Longacres development and they have planned,
or they had planned for that trail. They kept their landscaping outside of the area for the trail
bench and planned their fencing and other amenities accordingly. It continues north past the
Song residence and then the Jerome Carlson property. It does swing up in this location due to
some wetlands... It continues north again staying on the west side and it will stay on the west
side all the way through the termination of the trail. To the intersection of Lake Lucy, which was
the potential terminus back some 3 weeks ago as we were looking at budget restrictions. How
could we save costs? Obviously terminating or shortening the trail project was the best way to
decrease the budget. What has occurred is that neighborhood came in and worked very hard with
the Park Commission to see that what could be done to include those trail segments back into the
project. The Park and Recreation Commission had a $300,000.00 reserve available to them in
their park and trail acquisition and development fund,which they have recommended to the City
Council be used to complete this project in it's entirety as it was presented in the referendum
brochure. So these last few pages of Galpin depict what would be called that trail segment that
was deleted and now brought back. What you'll notice about this segment, it looks, it might be
difficult to see but it is different in that it comes up right behind the...that curb, 2 foot asphalt
shoulder and then the asphalt would be...
Joyce: So it'd be similar to what was on Lake Lucy right now? If you go on Lake Lucy road,
it's.
Hoffman: Similar but with the addition of a curb. So it'd be like Lake Lucy but if you moved
those curb lines out and elevated that.
Joyce: Oh, oh, okay. All right, I see.
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Hoffman; So then a travel lane and a curb which creates that barrier, that safety zone. Cars
recognize that as a barrier for pedestrians...much more safe. Just for a little bit of history, the
Lake Lucy trail was an on again, off again debate. Should it go on street without a curb? Should
it go off street as a separate trail? And as it ended up, on street with a white line has not been
very well received by the public and so it was a decision of the Park Commission, they would not
propose to develop... The trail continues north at Whitetail Ridge. On the east 65th Street on the
left. And then starts down the hill and around the curve. It travels down that hill and around the
curve. The Commission looked at, the Park Commission looked at two terminuses. Right here
at Pheasant Hill. Or Pheasant Run. Or down, all the way down to Mayflower. The problem
being that the city corporate limits end about a third of the way to Mayflower and we did not feel
very strongly about continuing on with that trail all the way to Mayflower with the corporate
boundaries...so their recommendation to terminate at the base of this hill. At Pheasant Run.
And what that allows is this neighborhood to then access the trail. There was a lot, I should note
there was quite a bit of testimony from this neighborhood that they actually go to Excelsior to
access activities and...responsibility to provide that travel route. With that, we'll take questions
on Galpin and perhaps public testimony as well if you desire...
Peterson: It's safe to say that we're not foregoing quality or substantially any character of the
trail because of the$300,000.00 surplus,or a portion I should say? Or are we giving up
something on the width or the character of the trail going north of Lake Lucy?
Hoffman: The character will change going from more in the ditch line to up against the back of
curb. But as far as the,how you would, how the pedestrians will sense the value of the trail is
about the same.
Peterson: Any questions? I think it's great we got it worked out.
Hoffman: The last issue which was resolved on Galpin was the east side/west side north of Lake
Lucy. That was the evening you were out on your site tour. The Park Commission was out on
Galpin Boulevard and then met for approximately an hour that evening to decide, unanimously to
recommend that it be constructed on the west side. Issues surrounding the Powers Boulevard
trail...centered on separation. Issues of privacy just south of Kerber. So to page through the
sheets,we start at the first entrance into Saddlebrook and go to Saddlebrook Curve here on
Powers Boulevard. Coming from downtown. Heading north. There's a section of trail in-
between the two entrances off of Powers and Saddlebrook which was installed by the developers,
kind of at their own will. Saddlebrook was developed and it's substandard. It's in the base of
the ditch. That's a perfect example of how we do not want to build the trail right in the bottom
of the ditch where you're susceptible to...difficult to maintain. So that's coming out and starting
out as the first segment of the trail. We continue north. Following past Saddlebrook to View
Court and entering really the area of the most discussion and you'll see the trail immediately goes
outside of the large row of pines. That was the first area of compromise. And again when I say
compromise it's compromise on the proposed plan. It still has to be approved by the
County...And then as you continue north, at this point originally the trail really dips back in and
enters the private lot in-between the north half of the trees and Kerber Boulevard. What the
commission chose to do in this area, to mitigate some of these concerns was to move that outside
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of the fence line so generally where you see that split rail fence on Powers Boulevard, the trail
will be outside of that fence when it's complete. During construction there will be times when
the fence will have to come down. Grading will occur and then the fence will be reinstalled for
the most part to allow accurate communication...we have indicated that we will stay outside of
that fence as it exists today. With that we'll land on the second page at Kerber where you see the
trail is now outside of these private property lines. There are issues north of Kerber Boulevard as
well. They're more individual in nature and they have to do with really personal choices from
the property owners. Where they have large trees within the right-of-way,we're allowing them
to make that decision. Whether they'd like to cut those trees down and allow the trail to be
constructed in the right-of-way, or bring the trail in, into their yards, inside of those trees and
allow... There are some areas, 3 or 4 lots north of Kerber that have that particular situation. And
then for the most part it remains unchanged north of Kerber you'll see where it does flow out
towards the road areas in this... We had talked about can you cross Lake Lucy but then
terminate at Pleasant View Road, and that was about 3 weeks ago. With the addition of the north
piece on Galpin, it was only fair that we added that...Powers north of Pleasant View so the trail
is being proposed...north of Pleasant View to Holly Lane. Close to the corporate boundaries of
Chanhassen... There are, there were questions about the terminus at Holly Lane versus Pleasant
View and how many residents did in fact... With that,again I'll be happy to answer questions.
The Park and Recreation Commission is since pleased with the changes. They worked very hard
with the residents. At your meeting there was a good showing of residents here to talk about...
That has also occurred at the Park and Recreation Commission meetings and the project team has
worked very hard to attempt to...
Peterson: Questions,comments?
Joyce: The only comment I'll say is I think it really shows the process working. I think they did
a heck of a job getting communication out. Listening to what the people had to say. I assume
everybody's happy because there's nobody here so. But when we had problems,you guys
resolved the problems and I think kudos to the whole operation. I think it's really well done.
Peterson: Thank you.
Hoffman: Could I ask for a motion to approve those two segments from the Planning
Commission please.
Joyce: What do we actually.
Hoffman: Approving the alignment on the Galpin,the alignment and the extent of the trail.
Joyce: I'll make a motion that the Planning Commission approve Galpin Boulevard trail
alignment on the east side from Highway 5 north to Brinker Street, then crossing to the west side
and continuing north to Pheasant Drive. Furthermore, that the Powers Boulevard trail alignment
be approved on the east side from Saddlebrook Curve north to Holly Lane.
Peterson: Second please.
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Blackowiak: Mr. Chairman,before we do that. Should we ask for comments? I mean there are
some people here. Would they like to comment before we go ahead with this or? I don't want to
shut anybody out. Okay, good. Well I just wanted to clarify that before we went ahead with
that.
Audience: I had a question...
Hoffman: Powers?
Audience: ...temporary easement. I don't know if...
Hoffman: Have you noticed the stakes in your yard? Yeah...green stake there. The orange is
the center line of the trail proposed.
Audience...
Hoffman: Correct, yourself and Kerber yeah. So yeah, it is going to change in that location. I
can take a closer look at where that temporary will indeed. What I can do tomorrow is call the
surveyor, Frank Gris. Have him take a look at your particular lot and let us know by feet how far
to the west those temporary and permanent, well now it's only going to be a temporary. How far
that would need to...
Audience...
Hoffman: In some areas it was and other areas it was not.
Audience...
Hoffman: No.
Audience...
Hoffman: Okay. The new part is on the south of you and...
Audience...
Hoffman: I'll call you Marion, yeah. Oh, okay. Or I can give you a call.
Peterson: We have a motion on the table and without a second. May I have a second please?
Brooks: Second.
Peterson: Any discussion?
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Joyce moved, Brooks seconded that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the
Galpin Boulevard trail alignment on the east side from Highway 5 north to Brinker Street,
then crossing to the west side and continuing north to Pheasant Drive. Furthermore,that
the Powers Boulevard trail alignment be approved on the east side from Saddlebrook
Curve north to Holly Lane. All voted in favor and the motion carried.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVIEW-HOUSING AND LAND USE.
Aanenson: Thank you. Bob and I will be kind of playing off each other a little bit here because
the housing section does weed into land use. Obviously it's a significant part of the city. While
we've tried to separate them as far as sections in the code,we'll be talking about them
collectively tonight. What we're asking from you tonight is to review the policies, the data
we've put forward. We're not requesting any action but we want to get some philosophical
points of view discussed and maybe get,have you give us some direction back. If there's other
issues that you need us to look at. So I'd like to begin, if we could,by just looking at the land
use map we recently completed. We did the Highway 5 corridor study based on the fact that we
had a 1995 study area and then we, with the Bluff Creek we did guide the rest of the city. So we
do have the entire city guided, which is one of the requirements we have to have. In 1991 we
left, like I said,the two 1995 study areas we called them,and then we also had a lot of property
that was just vacant. We didn't guide it and vacant isn't an acceptable land use so we
accomplished that with the '95 study area. We got a lot of input. What this data allowed us to
do is to actually put it on the GIS and very carefully calculate our different land uses so it's been
very helpful to us to understand exactly the acreages we have and do some future planning. The
only complication is,as kind of a caveat, is we did give some alternate land uses on some
properties. There may be 1 to 3 different land use alternatives so what we had to do is kind of
make some assumptions and what we did is we divide those equally among the possible
alternatives. For example, on the corner of Galpin and TH 5 we said institutional instead of
commercial so we tried to split those in thirds. The different land uses and give those equally.
Otherwise there's just no way to come up with three of them, it got too convoluted. So having
said that and completing this, the land use designation that really made the rest of our work a lot
more straight forward. So to begin with we have to see how the City of Chanhassen fits into the
regional growth strategy and I included those maps in your land use section. Talking about the
2040 year growth strategy and the assumptions that were made with that. The framework of this
policy is that how the region is going to grow and what percentage of the region is going to
develop in what area. So this is a regional forecast, and again our assumptions are based on the
regional assumptions that so many jobs,household and employment is going to take place within
the metropolitan region. And the growth strategy says that there's a line where that's going to
occur. By the year 2020,which the strategy addresses,the assumption is that the entire city of
Chanhassen will be in urban service area. So looking at that,what does that mean as far as
household and employment to the City of Chanhassen? In looking at that,number of households,
13,500 and the population of 34,500. Now if you look back at the 1991 comprehensive plan,
there was estimates that the city could be actually 60,000 people. That was the high curve and
examining that, and looking at the land use, Bob and I scratched our heads trying to think where
in the heck all these people could go because it just doesn't work. The threshold isn't there.
Even if we went high density throughout this, it couldn't happen. So we believe that the numbers
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that we have placed based on the current land uses make a lot of sense based on sustainability
and a good mix and we'll go through that for you tonight explaining why we think that mix is
important. We have kind of explained the development influences. The other thing is.
Generous: Just one thing. As far as the forecasts go,the city of Chanhassen and the Met Council
have slightly different views on the rate of growth. We both came together in 2020. However
we, our projections are a little higher than theirs...since this information and actual concept.
We're actually exceeding their numbers and we are,the city of Chanhassen is really next in line
for a lot of new development, as you'll see for office and industrial development.
Aanenson: That's a good point and thanks for bringing that up. We do concur at the 2020 where
we'll be but we are, our projections are happening a lot faster and as we go through this you'll
understand the rationale behind that but even the employment, it's currently under and we spent a
lot of time this summer calculating all that. But ultimate employment is still a little low. Supply
and demand. The vacant land. Estimated land. Land needed in the MUSA, 1,400 is way too
low. Based on forecasts of what we're absorbing it's,we believe that we have to take in a lot
more land and I'll go through the exact numbers here in a second. I'll let Bob talk about how he
came up with the housing. A lot of what the vacant land is based on housing. That's our
predominant land use so we didn't calculate by industrial but we'll give you a percentage that
we're increasing,but I'll let Bob go through and explain how we calculated, how much land we
need to bring into the MUSA based on our absorption rates.
Generous: Again the basic numbers that we went with were the land uses that were put in place
as part of the Highway 5 and the Bluff Creek. However, we needed to provide as part of our
analysis we did two scenarios. The scenario B is what would happen if growth patterns
continued the way we've experienced in the past, which is approximately 1.8 dwelling units per
acre. In calculating the number of dwelling units, first we had to get to net so we started with a
gross number based on land use and for simplicity sake we assumed 15% of the land would be
for right-of-way. If you look at historical numbers, it's about between 14 and 18...and 30% of
the land...wetlands and park space and those numbers have been born out on our development
statistics tables. And so that gave us a net acreage. And then the next number he uses is how
many units you'd have per acre. The range we used is 1.8 units per acre at the low end and 2.42
units an acre at the high end, and that comes to about 18,000 square foot so...inconsistent with
the development we have but it would be a slightly higher density than we've been experiencing
in the community. For multi-family there's not as much land available but we did, the
assumption was that there'd be less right-of-way required for that but there'd still be the same
amount of open space and parkland required. And so we use 6 units per acre for our estimate on
medium density. 10 units per acre on the high density. For medium density the comp plan
permits up to 8 units per acre and the high density permits...so giving that, every way that we did
these analysis, the land use information we had approximately 14,000 dwelling units...fairly
accurate.
Aanenson: Okay,now that you've got that data let's go back to what the Met Council's saying.
You know as he's demonstrated,consistent with current development patterns, and what we
believe the absorption rate is with current trends, and again this is market forces,based on the
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data that Bob just explained to you,the Met Council's saying that in the year between 1995 and
the year 2020, that we would need to bring in 1,400 acres if residential and what we're saying is
we believe that number is way too low and it should be something more like 3,500 acres,which
is ultimately for the residential, and again that's based on our absorption rate. So we think that
number's too low.
Generous: So there is one note that I forgot to put on this housing analysis table which is Figure
8 and we've excluded the large lot development from the calculations. Primarily most of those
are already developed. Approximately between 400 and...we don't see any more development
on those lands so they've been excluded.
Brooks: What happens when you and the Met Council don't agree?
Aanenson: Well we need to demonstrate to them why we think our numbers are correct,and we
think that we've got some pretty concrete evidence of why their numbers are wrong. And that
goes to the next slide, the housing mix and residential assumptions. The current trend and those
assumptions. We agree that the overall we're going to be at 3.3 and that's some of the things that
we said under Livable Communities Act,that we'll be closer averaging, taking off high or low,
and the problem that we have, as Bob indicated, we have some existing large lots. We're already
heavily weighted with low density area. That 3.3 is doable. But these are the assumptions that
they're using for absorption and I think for the most part they seem pretty realistic. It's just the
rate that we think is off. If you want to follow along on this, I'm on page 6. So I think it's easier,
instead of looking at this chart, to go through some of the land uses. But I want to back up and
maybe just talk about community assets and why Chanhassen's in the situation that it is.
Obviously the natural resources we have. The wooded areas. The wetlands. The lakes. The
trails. The recreation. The fact that we've got a lot of large parks dispersed throughout the
community. The Landscape Arboretum. The Minnewashta Regional Park. We've got an
identifiable downtown. These are all assets to the community that are causing some of the
growth patterns. Some of the liabilities that are going to affect the rate of growth in the future
that we've tried to take into consideration would be traffic and that's something we'll be
discussing at a future date but that congestion, especially at peak times. The ability to move
goods and services and people are obviously going to be a factor in affecting some of the
projections that we're making here today. And then some of the other factors that we need to
take into consideration in absorption as we have some significant property holders that have the
wherewithal to hold large tracks of land. And because of that we need to go outside the existing
MUSA and to bring property in because one of the concerns that we have is that land cost
continue to be an impediment to the city. Not only residential but by having a restricted MUSA
line, a restriction that it artificially inflates that so these are other reasons that we want to make
sure that we're not bringing in too much but we're also not artificially elevating land prices
which affect our ability to attract industrial,or even do affordable housing. And that's a liability
that we need to keep in mind. Just for your edification, if you're curious at all how many acres of
land on page 5. 14,760 acres of land in the city and that makes us 23,000 and almost 24, excuse
me, 24 square miles. Of that lakes and rivers constitute about 11%. On this next slide,just kind
of giving you comparison of the first comprehensive plan of 1980,which is showing up as
yellow, and then 1991 which is the last comprehensive plan, and then ultimate,the ultimate build
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of the city, 2020. What would be the different land uses. You can see the highest one there is
low density residential and that will always predominantly be our most significant land use. If
you look back you can see some of the different age cohorts don't have a specific land use such
as mixed use. Back in 1980 we didn't have a mixed use designation. Also vacant. You can see
1980 vacant was very high. At that time a lot of the city was not designated a specific land use
and when you get to the year 2020, vacant disappears and obviously that's because we've
assigned it a land use. The vacant. Another way to see this is to look at it by years, the different
land uses. The colors represent colors that planners use. Residential is generally done in a, low
density is done in a yellow so you can see in the year 2020 again we'll be predominantly low
density residential. It's kind of interesting to note some of the fluctuations. We're looking at this
as far as like parks and open space. How that's changed. If you look between '91, it looks like
it's gone down. A lot of that had to do with when we did the 2020,or we did the Bluff Creek
study. We gave some alternative land uses to some of the properties that had (a), if we didn't
acquire them. Even like Bluff Creek, we gave them an alternate land use for public, semi-public.
If that was to go away, what other use would we want there so that causes some fluctuation. I
know there's been a concern if you look at commercial,but that still seems pretty low but I think
you have to go beyond that and look at now we have a mixed use that does allow some
commercial. We've also allowed commercial in some of our PUD and mixed use projects that
we've done such as the industrial park at Arboretum. We allowed some support commercial in
there. So even though it's staying low, it's also kind of disclosed in some other land uses where
we've allowed those mixed use of those PUDs.
Peterson: And we didn't use,we didn't have any commercial and mixed use before?
Aanenson: Before, we did in 1991. It still hasn't been developed. That piece right now that
we've got mixed use is on TH 101 and, where there is in Mission Hills but hasn't been
developed. But then also Mr. Curry has some on TH 101 and Lyman Boulevard. That's a mixed
use there too.
Peterson: I still need some help understanding, we're dropping, we're going down from 2% to
1%commercial. We're going down from 17% in park and open space to 12%. Large lot we talk
about that we are,there will be less of those being developed but yet we're going up from 11%to
15%.
Aanenson: Yeah, what you have to take into consideration is that's since 1991. What was
guided. We've had, such as the Halla plat came in. That added additional acreage so we had
additional ones come in. We're not recommending those in the future. We haven't approved
any since the Halla one but that does take into account what's happened since 1991...out
building but you're right, we're not recommending. These are good questions. Actually the
commercial's probably just under 1.5. It rounded down for the land use and I know that's been a
concern. That's why we're recommending, and I'll go through that for the commercial, that we
do allow some mixed use projects such as what we've done on Villages on the Ponds...use so
it's not showing up as a pure commercial zone. So that's why it's cloaked in some other land
uses.
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Peterson: Kate, as much as we talk about taxes,you know you've got your commercial and
industrial office. I mean those are the areas that we...intent on getting more of that tax base
covered with that. And those zones don't seem to be a lot.
Aanenson: Sure, and that's a good question and let me explain that as we go through the
commercial section. I'll move to.
Peterson: One more question on residential high density. Since we're going down on that.
Doesn't that fly in the face of the affordable housing goals that Met Council's asking us to do?
Aanenson: No. I think it's, from the 1.5 to the 202 acres,again it's,what we're putting in the
comp plan is that under those,the acreage hasn't,has slightly decreased but what we're
recommending is that we push towards the higher end within that development. So even though
you've got less acreage than in the past,you know we've kind of beat people up to drop their
units per acre. What our recommendation in this land use is going to be that when it comes in
and it's guided for 12 units an acre, that we try to get a project at the 12 units an acre so we'll
actually end up with more units. If that makes sense.
Joyce: So you compare the percentages against housing versus land use really is what we've
agreed with with the Met Council as the actual housing percentage versus how much land is
actually.
Aanenson: Right, right. And that's why when Bob went through those numbers he was looking
at what's been our trend and then trying to look at the acreages based on some of those trends,
and then we use the average in the high density. The 10 units an acre and that's what we're
saying, we need to push those up in getting to the minimum. In the past we've dropped those
way down. Similarly on North Bay,that was a 12 unit an acre project and that came in at 7 units
an acre, so we lost those 7 units. It's hard to go back and put them somewhere else because
they're not palatable. We've lost that opportunity so we need to kind of examine that as we're
going through and that's one of our recommendations that we have in our policy issues that we
want to discuss with them.
Generous: However that was,the North Bay project was also like a pilot project where it allows
us to see a different housing style come into the community, at a smaller net scale so people
wouldn't be threatened and I think that helped us to get a project like Walnut Grove where we
got the mix of housing units and I think that will continue as we...
Conrad: How did we lose 91 acres in commercial? I don't understand that. I don't know what
move we made to...that many acres.
Generous: Well some of it came out of the Villages.
Aanenson: Right. It got mixed into that PUD because it had a commercial zone and then we put
it into a PUD so it's cloaked in another one. Actually if you were to look at.
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Generous: And 212.
Aanenson: Yeah, and 212,but if you look at what's commercial that's not guided commercial,
like in Arboretum Business Park. We gave some commercial in that. And then we were also,
what we're recommending as far as commercial for some of these other projects that we do a
mixed use or PUD, that we do also some support commercial in there. What we're saying under
the commercial section is that we don't want to have another large tract somewhere, 50 acres that
would deter from downtown but we see it as a support to some of these mixed use projects that
we're doing. That would be our recommendation.
Conrad: Based on what Craig said, I think real valid. Some of these numbers just really jump
out at you. This is the only page that I just said, whoa. What are we doing? Because when you
explain them, they make some sense Kate but the problem is, when you look at the 1991. You
know I don't know who uses this and some of it is just to pacify the Met Council to show we're
going in the right direction but these numbers don't look like we're going in the right direction.
Aanenson: One of the areas that we took commercial away from too was at the southern end of
the city. Down at the 212. The BF district. We've eliminated that. We've given that the
industrial so where we've lost it in commercial, we've picked it up in industrial.
Conrad: But I'm also talking about the large lot. You know we went from 1624 to 2247 and
that's not what's happening. So if you explain it as the fact that really, it's probably 2244 today,
you know that makes sense so. This is a bad.
Aanenson: Yeah, look at number of units.
Conrad: Number of units? Well, I'm looking at acreage and it just seems.
Generous: They were hidden in the vacant though, a lot of it. The study areas.
Aanenson: All that was vacant. If you look at the graph I have up right here. A lot of that was
vacant and actually some large tract residential which we had to assign somewhere. So some of
that was actually some,down in the southern end of the city, was actually some smaller,
individual, such as Homestead Lane. That was a vacant. Where actually it's a large lot
subdivision that's what it needs to be applied. So while we haven't created any more of them,
some of these got, instead of in the vacant category, we had to give them the correct land use
designation as they're being used today. So when that got divided, that's what occurred. But we
have not been approving, except for the Halla subdivision, we have not been approving large lot
subdivisions.
Conrad: It's just this graph gives a real strange signal, and you know, I'm going back to
commercial. It just, I think I agree with where we're going but it looks real strange. You know
from a community that's going to double in size and we are now going to decrease our
commercial because we just don't want those services out here. You know that's, on the surface
that's what's happening. We're going to double the population. We're going to decrease our
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commercial. I understand it but again, I don't think the graph does,you've got to do a lot of
explaining on this graph to make it make some sense.
Aanenson: That's what I'm attempting to do.
Burton: One more question.
Aanenson: Sure.
Burton: How can the undevelopable portion of the graph fluctuate?
Aanenson: You know if you look at 1980, it's closer to 2020 but the GIS system that we have
now and they're actually able to plot and calculate that. We believe that that number is very
accurate. How it got so low in 1991, I cannot give a reason for that. Maybe it was included land
that they thought was sloped or wetlands,and they didn't include the river or the lakes. There's
no qualification for that number in the comp plan so I'm not really sure. Again,those are all
factors that affect the ultimate. I guess one, the main points we wanted to, I think there was a
fear that we were going away from the lower density and as we said in the past,under the
housing goals,we're so heavily weighted low density and we always will be,but even with that
low density there's housing options that we need to be looking and pushing the small portions
that we do have the higher density,to make sure that we're pushing those...
Conrad: When you explain it to me but if I were somebody at Met Council and I looked at this
I'd say boy,they're going the wrong direction. Really flat out, 5 or 6 categories you've got to
explain to them and I hate giving anybody stuff like that Kate. I really do. I wouldn't want to
explain it. You know if I were doing this graph, I'd have a today column and so 1991
comprehensive plan. If I put a fourth column in there, I could say this is where we are today and
then these numbers are justified. These numbers,you know the new acreage will make some
sense. Again,I'm not sure what. The only number that really bothers me is the commercial and.
Aanenson: Can you wait until I get to that section. I think I can address your question there.
The residential again, I just want to reiterate what Bob had said. How we calculated the units per
acre. At the time that the large lots went in,a lot of those had a 2 %2 acre minimum. Hesse Farm,
a lot of those are maybe 5 or larger,based on the fact of the slopes. We don't believe a lot of
those will be subdivided in the future. If they can, they can only go down to 2 V2. If they want to
have sewer and water, they would have to petition because we're exempting those. Right now if
you're outside urban services you can only develop at 1 unit per 10 acre so again that's heavily
weighted for the density requirement. So the low density we use the 2.42 units per acre for
projecting ultimate development. Medium density, 6 units an acre and I've got a typo on here.
We didn't use 100 units an acre on the high density. We used 10 units an acre. Again, the point
that we're trying to make is when, because of the amount of residential in those medium and high
density,that there's an opportunity to make sure that we push them towards the higher end and
we also believe under the low density,we've talked to you about the PUD amendment that we
see you doing some other opportunities and maybe some mixing of some projects where we, such
as we did with Walnut Grove. Maybe do some density transfers. There's an opportunity to
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maybe be a little more creative. And then also with the Bluff Creek overlay zone,where we're
going to do some more sustainable development, we see maybe some different types of
clustering. We're not going to see a lot of the traditional rip and tear subdivisions of the past.
We're going to see a little bit more clustering type so we feel pretty good about where we're at
with those numbers. The industrial development. We believe, we did a comprehensive study
this summer. This is 8,000 jobs in this city. The Metropolitan Council estimated in 1995 6,500.
We think that's low. Just for your information the city documented 470 businesses that are in the
community that constitute these jobs. Of those 470 businesses, 185 of those are home based. So
that's kind of a hidden number and we had to make some assumptions on that. When it's a home
based one, we just assumed one person but there are some home based that have more than one
person and those are hard to account for. And there are some home bases that may not be
licensed for whatever reason that they're doing maybe the piano teacher. Maybe it's something
else that may not even be licensed so it's hard to get an accurate number but we believe that
number's going to continue to grow. Again the city will ultimately have 9%of it's land use in
the year 2020. When we're saying 2020, that's current. I mean that's what this land use reflects
right now but with the buildout there will be 1,291 acres of industrial land. Again we had to
make some assumptions on that, and that's that last little paragraph on page 9 where we took,
based on right-of-way and the floor area ratio, we tried to come up with ultimately how much we
could get on a piece of property. For commercial, again the city's maintained the policy of
directing the majority of the commercial to the downtown business district. This plan still
supports that but there are three areas of commercial I wanted to talk about. The non-sewered.
Again,this was the area down on 212/169 and those are all grandfathered uses. It's the staff's
opinion, if you look at those uses,they really are industrial type uses. They're not commercial
retail and in the comprehensive plan we had recommended that those be guided industrial in the
future... The downtown commercial. That's the core which really represents that 1%. That's
the downtown commercial. The neighborhood commercial are those nodes that are going to
support existing businesses such as the Mission Hills. Again that shows up in the mixed use.
The piece that's on Galpin and TH 5, the piece that's up on neighborhood business that's
adjacent to Lake Drive. There's also a small node on Highway 7. These are all some of the
neighborhood commercials. We did put in here, following through what was in the previous
comprehensive plan, some criteria. What we want to make sure is that these neighborhood
commercial districts reflect the character of the surrounding neighbors. That they be residential
in character and we put some criteria in there. Again,the way we see the commercial being
developed in the future is that it be a part of a mixed PUD and on page 10, in that first paragraph,
towards the end of it. What we say is that there will be additional commercial development in
the next 20 years. We certainly have identified another project that we think could be another
mixed use somewhere too, Villages on the Pond. But we believe that commercial, when it comes
in,will be part of a PUD or mixed use development. Similarly a large industrial park which we
have guided some large pieces. Or if it's part of a mixed residential,commercial piece so we do
acknowledge that there will be additional commercial, but it won't be a straight commercial
zoning. We will give it, if it makes sense,when a PUD comes in and then the Planning
Commission and the Council feels like this is the right thing to do,and it supports what's
happening in that neighborhood. We're not going to go ahead and just give somebody
commercial but what we see is, does it make sense what's happening with this development,just
like we did with the Arboretum Business Park. Based on the number of employees going there,
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it seemed to make some sense to put some support commercial so that's what we're
acknowledging. That there will be more than the 1%but it needs to be couched and making
sense with the projects that are happening. Whether it be residential or industrial so,that was
kind of our response to that 1%. Public, semi-public. Again we said that that,that one is pretty
much remaining consistent. That includes the Arboretum. That includes the wildlife refuge on
the southern end of the city. The City Hall. Camp Tanadoona. The golf course. The regional
park, as I mentioned. Again,those will continue to stay there we believe in the long term. It
comprises 8%of the city. And in the land use section on the policies, what we said as we bring
in MUSA, that we would exempt the Carver Regional Park, Minnewashta Regional Park. We
would exempt Arboretum because they've got existing sewer and at this time, what they're using
that property for,and the agricultural...there's really no reason to provide municipal service to
them at this time so we would just exempt them from the MUSA calculations. Again, that's
something we would demonstrate to the Met Council because of their use, that they don't need to
be included. This is an issue that you've discussed before too on page 12. Agriculture. Again,
consistent with the Metro 2040 policy framework that says that Chanhassen will be urbanized.
We recognize that and we support the preservation of farms in the greater Carver County. If you
look at what's happening in the city, a lot of the farming that's taking place right now is leased.
There is an active family farm in the community under the proposed MUSA expansion. It is
proposed for the year 2005, and that's something that we'll talk about later. Some options if we
wanted to preserve the area and bring it in later. We'll be talking about that.
Brooks: ...
Aanenson: Sure. There's provisions if they wanted to that we could move past them and bring
some other property in, yeah. Office institutional. The city worked with the District 112 to put
the elementary school in place and to add onto that facility. In working with the school district
they do not anticipate any additional schools being built in the city. Victoria will probably be the
next site for an elementary and so we don't see that number changing significantly. We don't
have a lot of pure office. It's gone into other districts. But certainly that is an option. It can go
in a commercial district. It can go into an industrial district. So it has been a small percentage of
the land uses in the city but that doesn't mean we couldn't give somebody else a strict office use.
Again the mix use. On the 101, I'm sorry.
Peterson: Back to the library. We talked about the expansion. I assume that that hasn't changed
since any of the discussions we've had previously?
Aanenson: Correct.
Peterson: Anything substantial other than 200 square feet?
Aanenson: Well,the city also needs to do a new public works building. We see a library coming
down the line. What that ultimate buildout, either of those facilities. I put a note in there that
those are uses that we will have to be looking at. As far as the institutional.
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Peterson: Along with that, if you read through the rest of this. To coin a phrase, we don't really
focus on gathering places other than the parks. Whatever else there might be but I think that's
something, at least in my mind, to focus and to think about it consciously about gathering places
for the city. The residents talk about it a lot and it seems to be in the forefront of their minds
and...in ours.
Aanenson: Okay. Mixed use. Again that's about 1%or 134 acres. I explained before where
those are, Mission Hills and then the 101/212 interchange. We won't be applying this zone
anymore. What it says is mixed use or commercial. We'll be making recommendations to
update a comprehensive plan,that it come in a percentage. Because right now it could come in
all commercial on 134 acres. I don't think that it...quite that high based on the 212 interchange.
We wouldn't certainly support it all commercial but we want to make it clear what our
expectations are on that. Parks and open space. 1,700 acres of parks is what we'll ultimately
have or 12% of the city's future land use will be in parks. Just for your edification, in looking at
the city and comparing it to other communities. We looked at these numbers and they seemed
pretty consistent with a lot of suburban communities our size. Again, taking the premise that we
don't have a regional draw. Our guiding principle may be commercial that meets the daily needs
of the residents. Some of those other larger regional purchases made less frequently would be
somewhere outside the community. That doesn't mean in the future that it may not be
considered but being consistent with some of the guiding principles that have been held to date,
this plan... that principle again. The commercial would be added where it made sense based on
the development that were to go in. So with that,we had listed some policy issues that we
wanted just for your consideration. We kept the buffer yard concept. That was put in in 1991.
Buffering between uses that were different land uses. We came back a couple years ago with a
landscape transition buffer zone that was kind of an evolution of this. But this we continue to
stay in there between industrial and residential is really the main premise of that. Impact on
MUSA and existing large lots. Here's where we said that people that live in existing large lot
subdivisions, it's not our intent to change the character of that neighborhood. If they bought into
a large lot residential neighborhood, that's what they should remain. Unless a majority of the
property owners,or 50%of the households came in and said you know, we no longer want to be
rural. We'd like to be urban and we'd like to have sewer and water brought into our
neighborhood. At that point the City Council would consider it. But this plan takes into
consideration that we do have a variety of housing types and that's one of the housing types that
this city offers is some large lot estates and it's not our intent to change that. Comprehensive
plan inconsistency. This is just really a clarification based on what the State law says is that your
zoning map has to be consistent with your comprehensive plan and we're saying because we're
doing a staging, why would we want to go ahead and change what, right now the southern end of
the city is zoned agricultural. We're not going to go back and rezone it consistent with the
comprehensive plan because it's been our policy when a development comes in, that we apply.
And based on the fact that there's no services, it doesn't make any sense so that would be another
policy. Until urban services are provided, we would not change the zoning map. Again, MUSA
exemption, I talked about this earlier. It's our intent to leave out the regional park, Camp
Tanadoona and the Minnesota Landscape Arboretum. Again, the nature of what they do, we
don't see that urban services need to be provided there. Also it'd be very costly if they're not
using a lot of residential units or that's how they equate the cost of bringing services out there. It
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doesn't make a lot of sense for a small amount of hook-up...fiscally responsible. Here's another
one I talked about earlier. Policy on page 14. Maximum density. Based on the city's housing
goals and the participation of the Livable Communities Act, the city would have the right to deny
a project that doesn't meet the maximum density. And again that would be a criteria for the
Planning Commission and the Council to decide. If someone's under cutting that and we're
trying to make some goals with some different choices,that we can say no. We've got this
guided for high density for a specific reason and this project doesn't help us meet our goals.
Again if you look at where we've got the high density,we need to take this into consideration. If
based on this land use we can meet our goals, and that goes back to your question Ladd. Based
on these land use acreages,we will meet our goals under the Livable Communities. But if we
don't provide the density requirements, then we'll have a problem.
Conrad: How can we do that Kate? On that point. The maximum use.
Aanenson: That was a recommendation of the City Attorney. It had to be in the comprehensive
plan. Correct. It's new.
Conrad: But on a subdivision, not on a. For sure you could do it on a PUD,but he says we could
do it on a subdivision.
Generous: As long as you have it in your plan.
Aanenson: As long as in your comprehensive plan,correct.
Joyce: Now you're saying that, you're talking about no going. If you're at a high density,you
couldn't go to a medium density.
Aanenson: Unless you had chose to let them do that,right. Again, this goes back to the question
we had, if we take it from somewhere. Where do we replace that? We had this discussion with
industrial. If we take industrial out of the stock and let it go residential, where do we replace the
industrial? This land use makes assumptions that we're going to meet these housing goals if we
take some of that away.
Joyce: But you're not force, if they keep it high density, you're not saying it has to be 16 units.
It can be 12 units.
Aanenson: Our assumption though is,yeah 10.
Joyce: You said 10, right. Okay.
Generous: So we try to push them up above 10 but we wanted to make it compatible with
development and compatible with the design criteria that we have in the community.
Joyce: So in the comprehensive plan it just says you can't go between densities, is what you're
saying.
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Generous: No, it says we can turn down the subdivision if they're not providing high enough.
So if they're at 8 units per acre,we can say you don't comply with the comprehensive plan so we
don't have to approve the development.
Joyce: Okay.
Aanenson: Something new. It's something to think about. Right, and this is a way for us to
make sure we, yeah. Exactly.
Conrad: Well we need guidelines on that.
Aanenson: Right.
Conrad: If I were a developer, a builder, that'd be an awful target to shoot for.
Blackowiak: Oh exactly. I think the city will get sued,I mean.
Conrad: But there's some validity in what she's talking about so we.
Aanenson: Well it's the same thing as saying you can't exceed a certain density. It's the reverse.
If we provided opportunities for those,and we have certain expectations.
Conrad: Minimum densities that are absolute.
Aanenson: Right.
Blackowiak: We should not even have ranges then.
Conrad: Yeah, right.
Blackowiak: I mean you should have a specific target density. Your density will be 10. Period.
Because if you're going to provide a range,I think that by trying to.
Aanenson: But you have to look at the sustainability of each property. In some projects it may
work. I think you're tying your hands too tightly to do that. That's the same thing we do now.
We look at a project. A PUD may work on this piece but not on another. I think you have to
judge each one on it's merits based on topography. A lot of other issues. I think to do that on
carte blanche would be very difficult.
Blackowiak: Oh I agree totally but I'm just saying that as a developer, if I came into this city and
wanted to do a high density project and what is it currently. 8 to 12 for high density.
Joyce: 8 to 16. It's wide open.
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Blackowiak: 8 to 16, okay. Let's say that I decided that based on market forces, etc., I was going
to come in at 10,which is what your target density is. If you denied me because I wasn't at 16,
I'd probably turn around and sue you. I mean seriously. As a developer who felt.
Aanenson: Right, and we're saying that we've checked with the attorney and we believe that
that's something that we can.
Blackowiak: That just scares me. I mean that was one of my big notes in here. When it says a
policy and ordinance, I mean. I think that we're just really opening ourselves up to,I mean I can
understand saying a policy of trying to strive for meeting maximum goals but, so why do you
even need to say this?
Aanenson: This doesn't have any.
Blackowiak: Well.
Aanenson: I think another approach should be then that we should take some of the low density,
if we want to make sure that we're meeting the housing goals, and cut down the amount of low
density and get some of that more medium or high.
Blackowiak: Well I'm just saying,why do we even need to say this? If we have a policy of
trying to attain a certain.
Aanenson: ...policies, it's not enforceable. The only way it's enforceable is if you had it in your
comprehensive plan.
Blackowiak: But can't you make a policy statement in your comp plan?
Aanenson: That's what this is.
Generous: Yes you could.
Blackowiak: Well yeah all I'm saying, couldn't it be that you want to try to push people towards
the high end of low, medium and high densities?
Generous: In the housing element we do use that language.
Aanenson: Right.
Generous: However that's not defensible. It's vague. From a legal standpoint. If you encourage
them and they don't do it, how can you stop them?
Blackowiak: But can't we stop them without this?
Aanenson: No.
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Generous: No.
Aanenson: No. We haven't in the past.
Generous: As long as they're in that 8 to 16 range, they can go forward. And still be consistent.
This gives the City the right to deny.
Aanenson: Yeah. I think you raise some good questions. These are things that we need to talk
about. We had talked about before with the housing goals,what we need to do to make sure
we're meeting our goals and we talked about this before but it's a good discussion to have for the
next couple months while we work through this. PUD allowance. Here again we said the PUD
district may allow a 25%ancillary uses if deemed appropriate by the Planning Commission and
City Council. Again that...other things that seemed to make sense with that development.
Whether it's residential or commercial or industrial. Something else that, maybe it's a
commercial piece that comes in that has some residential mix with it. Or vice versa. The next
thing I want to talk about is,before Bob talks more specifically about housing is talk about our
staging because that's really the next big issue, but before I get to that. Do you want to talk about
this with yours or do you want to do it now?
Generous: We can do it...
Aanenson: Talk about building permits.
Generous: This is just a historical trend for building permit activity in the community. As you
can see we are trending up. There was a slight dip in `90-91 but again we're...will continue. If
you take 1980 to the present, we average about 275 residential building permits a year. As a part
of our analysis of future development we're saying we'll be around 300.
Aanenson: Again that's taking into consideration current trends, interest rates and the light. The
anomalies you see in '95, that was a year where we had actually a lot of multi-family stock... We
actually did more multi-family permits than we did single family detached. The next year we
moved so fast on those we actually didn't have anything else in stock. There wasn't any other
project. Right now again what's moving very quickly is attached type units. The non-traditional,
the 15,000. Those are what...but there is a big demand again. As we show you on that chart, we
are heavily weighted but we need the diversity of housing stock. That's what causing a lot of the
demand. The different types of housing product. We just talk about, if you want to.
Generous: Again,this reinforces that the City of Chanhassen will be predominantly single family
detached housing. The 25 to 44 year age group. The ones that are primarily child bearing years
and want big houses. It will slide forward slowly with the aging of the baby boomers but...that
group, that age group...
Aanenson: And the numbers again that you're looking at here are 1990 and we know we're
going to have, when we get the new census, that we will have a more aged population.
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Especially since we have the senior housing and we're looking at doing other projects and some
of the other services that we're providing, we know that people that live here that maybe want to
bring their parents here,that we will have an increasing amount of the 60 plus. So that's another
area that we need to look at. And that's all I had on that. I just want to take a couple minutes
before Bob does the housing and maybe just talk about the MUSA staging...For comparison
sake, where we've been. We talked earlier about during the 1980 MUSA and that's this line
right here. ...update in 1991, we brought in all this area with the new expansion. As I told you
previously, there are some property owners in that area that have the ability to hold large tracts of
land and will not need to be brought in based on our...we believe there's a sequentially
logical...bring in land incrementally for 5 years to the ultimate development of the city... This
would be the area that we would recommend come in in the year 2000. The population and
breakdown that we used to come up with this... Right now the city sewer is to this point right
here, the Walnut Grove area. This area here is adjacent to Highway 5 and Highway 41. You've
got the Arboretum and you've Arboretum on this side. You've got the regional park, Camp
Tanadoona and Ches Mar Farms. So the significant portion that you're going to bring in is
residentially guided. Right here. Then we've got the mix of low density with the Highway 5
frontage road... We believe this area...area brought in. But that goes back to the work farm
issue. How does that affect... And this area would be the year 2015. What we did is we jumped
over the Bluff Creek in this large lot area here because we don't believe in the near future that's
going to change. That would be the last area to...property down here where you've got Moon
Valley... the industrial park's down here...urban service to those areas because this area here
really has limited, unless they want to change the character of the neighborhood, the golf course
wants to change, there really... For your information we have received comments from...we
have the Degler working farm and some of this... Again when we come back to you and talk
about transportation, that's going to be a significant factor in MUSA expansion. Our ability or
inability to expand... One of the other concerned property owners is Mr. Fox and he has
concern...
Generous: A lot of the analysis in the housing element we went over before. Figure 9 took those
MUSA expansion areas and tried to provide the number of dwelling units we would anticipate in
each of those. The existing comp plan had some very good criteria. We would, on page 1 and 2
we would recommend that that stay in there and be a guiding principle for us when we review
code developments. The existing housing information is basically a checklist that the Met
Council requires so we went through and provided them with all the data. Some of it is
interesting but as the community grows it should change. Age of housing stock. Our housing is
relatively new. The majority of it has been built since 1970. Again the figures that were
included in this are from the past. Primarily from the past present. Future document, it just
shows how the community's growing. The increase in valuation for housing. Changes in age
distribution. Figure 4 doesn't show up in the expanded but 1995 our estimated person per
household actually increased from the 1990 from... 2.92 to 2.93. While that might not seem like
a large jump, it is significant because in most places the number's actually going down so that is
showing that the city is still,has a lot of families moving in and that will impact our need for
school facilities. Figure 8 is just on housing. Housing data. It did show that we don't have very
many substandard housing units. Figure 6 is actually mistitled. That's our 1998 homestead
valuation. It's for the taxes payable this year were based on. Figure 7 is that historical data that
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we've been using to evaluate what we can reasonably expect to happen in the future. It shows
what has been taking place. The net densities of our low density residential development and of
our multi-family development. We do this annually with any new developments. The average
numbers at the bottom have been increasing. You don't see that in this but it was 2.5...last year
and now it's...using our targets for Livable Communities. The housing demand on page 6 is a
table that we put together to show that communities around us are filling up and we're next in
line. We did Figure 8. That's just our analysis on what our projected total housing units will be
in the community. In Figure 10 is really our analysis where we did the Livable Communities
Act. We did revise our projections. We reduced the amount of the distribution between
ownership and rental housing...felt significant public subsidies that we would not meet the
previous rental targets and so we put down something that's more reasonable. Currently we're at
89%...11%rental housing. We're trying to hold that number will be difficult. We do believe we
will meet our next goal, single family detached housing and other types of
housing...approximately 2/3 to 1/3. And that's been born out in all our..., as long as the city
does go forward with it's policies of trying to encourage the higher density limits. We will be
able to meet those targets. The good thing about this,as part of the Livable Communities Act,
we get to review it in 5 years. We're required to review it in 5 years so we can see whether or not
we are in fact meeting the target. Figure 11 just, we put that in to show how the distribution of
housing types has changed over time and as we project in the future, we'll be going back to
meeting our target. Our housing type targets. The real...review and comment on are, we did
have some proposed additional policies in this and this is on page 16. The first one, you know
within the PUD we talk about providing a density bonus for affordable housing but there is no
mechanism to do this. This would be one that...allow people to provide affordable housing.
For low density residential, that would permit up to 5 units per acre. Medium density,up to 10
units per acre. High density, it would be up to 20 units. They could provide affordable housing.
It's a number that we came up, it didn't seem too great in increase in density but it would
potentially be something that would encourage developers to provide it. Down at the bottom of
the page we're looking at where there's the density range. We would encourage the PUD at the
upper end of the density range. It's not as strong as a language in the land use element but it
conveys the same idea. Again we'd like to promote mixing of housing densities within the
development so we can have transitions from established neighborhoods. The next one is that
the city will continue to implement or participate in the implementation of the Livable
Communities Act. We didn't want to put as a policy the actual numbers here because that can
and will change and so we just say we'll work towards that. Then finally, we just want to say
that we're not going to create any ghettos in the community. We don't want an over
concentration of subsidized or low,or affordable housing to create any stigmatized areas and so
we think it should be dispersed throughout the community. So that in a nutshell is what we're
looking for in the housing portion.
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Peterson: Bob you talk, in page 11...ordinances and it talks about the following actions or
possible actions the city should undertake to pursue life cycle affordable housing. DO we need to
be more specific about that before it gets into the comprehensive plan or are you saying it should
be done via the comprehensive plan but it should be done...?
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Aanenson: Maybe I can explain it. This attachment right here Bob put as a reference. That's
part of what I wrote to our implementation strategy. It's actually the entire thing's an attachment
but your point is well taken. These are the things that we said we would do so it should be in an
ordinance format. Or if some of them may refer to,pursuing the upper limits of the density
range. That one had to be in the comp plan in speaking to the City Attorney. So these are action
items that we said that we would try to be working on so some of them actually go on both.
Joyce: Can we look at an item on page 16, the first item. First underlined item I should say. Did
you say that's only for PUD?
Aanenson: The density bonus?
Joyce: Yeah.
Generous: It'd probably be only applicable to the PUD because all the other ones have lot size
limitations.
Joyce: Right. Okay, so it'd have to be a PUD?
Aanenson: It would have to be something that the city is getting something. That you would
give a bonus to. Was it too high of quality design,preservation. Again, we're not going to put
off one whole project as an affordable project and say we've done it and give them the extra
density bonus. That there's an opportunity that gives maybe some more units if we're getting,
the City's gaining something.
Joyce: How are you going to handle, if we did this bonus situation? Let's take, I looked at some
of your average development that's done when you have let's say, oh I took, if you look at Figure
7. You have Oaks at Minnewashta. Okay. So that's a 16 acre,a net acreage is 16. You've got
45 units. Correct? So you're adding about 10 units,that 10 units to that development.
Aanenson: It's pretty difficult to do it in a low density residential. You don't generally get an
affordable unit on a 15,000 square foot lot or 10.
Joyce: That's what my question. But that's what you brought that up, that you go from 4 units to
5 units.
Aanenson: Unless they came in and did like a twin home project on some of those. Maybe
there's some lots that there's an area that they may want to do some twin homes or something
like that. That would be an opportunity.
Joyce: I guess what I'm leading up to is, it seemed to me you'd have to have a fairly large
development to really put,to make sense out of this. The way that we want to do it. Is that
something that we'd look at as, maybe we don't need to do it, I don't know. I'm just saying that
the development size is an issue here I think.
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Aanenson: I think there is a correlation but then there might be a unique piece that maybe has, if
you look at when Stone Creek originally came in,those lots that were in the trees. We requested,
staff's opinion was that we should do those larger lots and cluster those smaller, so there may be
an opportunity to...an area that you could do some of those. Blending, like we talked about with
Walnut Grove. I think, you know the density bonus is in place right now. We haven't applied it.
We've never applied it. It's in the current ordinance. I don't think we've seen a project that, or
somebody has asked to it. Again that goes back to the question, are we, I think in the past we've
felt,unless we've knocked a few units off a project, there was a perception that we hadn't done
our job... They're going for the maximum knowing they're going to lose a few and then we feel.
What we're saying now is, let's evaluate it and making sense on design. How it works on the
property and some other criteria that may be affordable...
Joyce: I've always,I think you know this, I'm very uncomfortable with the term affordability.
Or the what I feel is like a ceiling on how high a price can go and a good example is when we
were out at Walnut Grove last week. You know those weren't affordable houses, those
bungalows. They were life cycle houses. And to talk to those people and say, you know they're
saying well we went in there looking at S 130-150,000.00 bungalows. And now they're selling
for$240.
Aanenson: ...market so what happens is supply and demand, yeah.
Joyce: Yeah,but I mean there's also value there and they're much nicer, it's a nicer project for it.
Aanenson: I don't think we're arguing that. I think we never expected those to be in that price
range but...
Joyce: Oh I agree.
Aanenson: ...make sure that one or two of them were, they may not have had all the extra
features.
Joyce: That's the point I'm trying to make because I'm afraid that you go into a project and to
assure affordability and then find out you can actually make the project nicer but then the
affordability.
Aanenson: We struggle with it.
Joyce: I hate putting that kind of stuff. What happens if it goes out of the affordability but it's a
better project?
Aanenson: Well I think that we can be creative in looking at these projects. There's an
opportunity on a few of the lots, if we had said, you know...
Joyce: I just get torn because I know you have to plan. You have a job to plan but I hate going
into a market and taking on the market aspects of things,particularly if you're going to have a
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better project for it and taking a price and say okay, what is it? S115,000.00 or something like
that.
Aanenson: But that's what we do with land use. By giving it a land use designation, you've
affected the value.
Joyce: Yeah,but I mean we're making a policy here.
Generous: Yeah,and it's in the ordinance but there's no mechanism in the comprehensive plan
to permit it to go forward. This is one area that we could, it's optional for the city and maybe if
that 1 unit per acre,on the low density is what it needs to average the cost of the development,
then is that worth it? Sure. If 1 out of 5 houses, to be affordable.
Joyce: Once again, if you go into a big area and we're talking about 50 acre situation where
we're mixing it up like we did with Walnut Grove, great. Okay?
Generous: Sure.
Aanenson: Right. I agree.
Joyce: I'd argue that point. But I'm saying you take a 10 acre thing and I don't know what
developers are going to do. I mean if they come in and try, I just can't, I'm trying to visualize
this. Is there any kind of loophole that they can come in and really screw up a project where
we'd be forced, and maybe there isn't? I don't know,maybe I'm just.
Aanenson: ...authority whether to.
Joyce: Right, if it's a PUD we have the authority so that's no problem there.
Aanenson: Right, and it has to make sense for the land use. Can the land sustain that type of
development? Does it make sense? Just like we do with any other development. Whether or not
it can meet all the parking and they can put a lot of building on the parking and impervious
surface. Then there's a threshold there.
Joyce: Okay,thank you.
Aanenson: I didn't mention the land use goals but there was a section. Those were revised.
What we did in the,when you saw those originally we kind of did an issue on which ones are no
longer valid so those were modified. The land use if you wanted... Again, it summarizes more
succinctly some of the major policy issues that we talked about.
Peterson: A lot of information Kate.
Aanenson: These are the two meatiest ones. The next ones we'll be talking about is the capital
improvement plan. Sewer and water.
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Generous: Transportation.
Aanenson: Transportation. And then I think I indicated to you on April 22nd we'll be having a
town meeting. The Planning Commission and the Council and the staff again will be providing
an opportunity for comments from the residents. For you a chance to hear some of the citizens at
large and we'd like to kind of break that down into areas so people have an opportunity. If
they're just concerned about transportation. Try to break those down and make an open house so
they can visit those areas and whether it's housing, whatever their issue is, and then provide a
forum to give a lot of education then. For them.
Sidney: I guess one last comment and something I mentioned when I spoke to you today about, I
guess promoting or seeing if we can't say more about senior housing.
Aanenson: Yeah that was a good point and I did make note of that.
Sidney: Yeah,you mentioned that as a possible goal and you know was putting it in terms like,
trying to attract and retain seniors and I guess I was so struck by the demographics of
Chanhassen. We're just not balanced.
Aanenson: Right, I think we should put in parenthesis, senior housing and life cycle...clarify that
a little bit more.
Sidney: Yeah. And then also I guess is looking on page 16 about if demand becomes apparent,
is the demand apparent at this point? Shouldn't we be proactive in our land use?
Aanenson: Probably. That's probably better language, yes.
Peterson: Other comments, questions?
Conrad: Just a couple Mr. Chairman. Kate, what was confusing to me, as I read all of this is,
I'm not sure what year we're aiming for. Sometimes it's the year 2000 and sometimes 2020,
2040. There's a lot of numbers here so I'm not sure what we're talking about. Just a general
comment. There are typos in here throughout. I'm not even going to, you'll catch them but...
There's columns that read Chaska and I don't know why that would be but there's a Chaska
column in there. Bob, I can show you that afterwards. Hang on a second here while I go
through. Because as we talked about on page 6, that's the confusing part to me as a citizen. It
doesn't look like we're going in the right direction. When you explained it Kate I think it's
explainable but. I'll just underscore,you know when we sort of bless this thing, it's like that,
that's Chanhassen. We've cast it. It's build out. But I think I'm biased towards commercial but
I just want you all to think that as soon as you say this is it, commercial, that's it. And the one
thing that they tell you on commercial. As soon as you stop building, you're dead. It loses it's
life so that bothers me. I like what we're doing. I like the clustering. That's just really, I like the
core city but you know, we've limited it.
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Peterson: ...talking about page 6,and I'll interrupt for a second as you're paging through. My
comment, I'll go right back to it also. When we talk about commercial and office industrial and
office, I'm concerned and greater minds than I have certainly looked at the percentages but we're
putting a lot of onus on, is 1%the right number? Is 9%? And I'm just very concerned that we're
putting so much dependence upon other communities saying that is the right percentage. Is it the
right percentage for what we want to accomplish in Chanhassen having more employment here.
Not being a bedroom community. Should we break from the pack and say, commercial, office,
industrial should be a total of 15%versus 11%? So that we are assured that that, that those
percentages will fund the tax base. We don't know what it's going to look like 10 years from
now. I mean the whole tax system is going to change...but I'd like to be real cautious that we
think about what kind of town do we want to live in. Do we want to have a lot more in... years
and those numbers may not be adequate. Like Ladd said,we won't get one more chance at this.
I'd almost be more biased towards addressing the concerns of the citizens now by saying we'll up
it and, it's a lot easier to up it now and lower it, than it is to increase it you know.
Aanenson: Pretty hard to take it away from somebody and that goes back to my point with Ladd
and I completely concur with what you're saying Ladd and I guess that's why we said, we think
that the commercial should be...where it makes sense. If you give somebody commercial now,
and it's a broad base commercial,it's very difficult to take away and then the door's open. What
we're saying is that you know,we recognize there's some nodes, that there's some pretty exciting
things can happen and we're going to recognize that and say you know if you come in with a
great project, that we're going to give you some support commercial and I think we've been
pretty good about it. The other thing you have to factor in, if you look at the southern area of the
city, that map,the land use map that you have, the transportation issue gets very tough. You've
got some existing large lot neighborhoods and to try to put some industrial in there, and I concur.
This is an issue the Council's struggling with too. If you look at the beginning of the, as some of
you may have been involved in the community assets and liabilities...together and discuss that.
Looking at being fiscally responsible. Do we have enough industrial? These are very legitimate
questions. How do you balance that with maybe the infrastructure that's not in place to handle
that transportation and when you bring those jobs in, and what it does to our road system. Those
are very tough questions and I think that you're right. We need to think about that. Just because
we've used this in the past, does that mean it's the right model and when we come back with the
transportation in one month, I think a few more questions. Our biggest fear is that we will be
built out before 212 is built and wow. That is a scary thought and what does that mean if we've
got that many more employees so those are very good questions that we need to be thinking
about and hopefully we'll have some more information for you and the transportation study being
done.
Brooks: On the transportation study, and I talked to Mayor Nancy Mancino about this. I am
really concerned that all of our focus is going to be highways and that we really, really need to be
aware that there is a commuter rail study going on and that we need to be a part of it. Right now
the legislature does not have us as part of their commuter rail study and I believe there is a
push... so I think that should be part of the transportation plan. I don't think rail should
disappear out of it. Because 212 is not happening. I mean you know, 2020 maybe. And it's still
a maybe. It's so far out it's not even reasonable.
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Aanenson: So I guess what we're saying is some of those more local streets are going to be
having more traffic and what does that do when you start putting trucks on, in some of that sort
so that's an issue that we need. We took, I wouldn't want to say a more conservative approach
but we took what we heard during the Bluff Creek study and what made sense for existing large
lot developments. What seemed to make some sense being fiscally responsible. Does that mean
we can't increase it? Well I think there's places that you're right Craig, that maybe we should
examine that a little closer. But we want to make sure we've got a handle on, do we have the
infrastructure in place and I think once we have that we can examine a few other areas. And we
did give some choices. If you look at the numbers, they're low. We said this could be medium
density or it could be industrial. A lot of that was predicated on the infrastructure being in place
so they may swing,and a couple of those areas where we had two or three land uses, again like I
said, we split them into thirds but they could go all one way which is.
Peterson: Ladd, I'm sorry to interrupt so.
Conrad: Good conversation. I'll just challenge the folks up here. This is where we've got to be
visionary a little bit in what we're talking about. Seriously. This is the end of the deal for Chan.
It's always been easy to say well, we can always change it later on but this is sort of, and so
you've got to be visionary and that's why I keep pushing commercial. And saying,well am I
happy with how,what we're going to have. Is this it? Excelsior's dying. It's dead because
there's no place to expand. It's dead. Dead. They're dying there so again, I'd go back, I don't
want to bury that one. I don't have a real solution.
Aanenson: Excelsior's dead,they got rid of the grocery store.
Conrad: That's right. That's right. Two other points under the land use area. Under goals, I
think they're all really good. I think they're fine. A challenge. The one under large lot,just to
make sure we feel that it's really appropriate that when 50%say that's it,what are we saying?
What are we saying when 50%want to subdivide. Does that, I'm not sure what you've just told
me there. Does that mean each individual can,are we changing the zoning? I don't know what
your point is here so you've got to make that real clear. Under how, you know then we talk about
preservation and adaptive reuse of structures historical. Is this, is that a land use deal or is that a
housing deal? It doesn't seem like land use to me but I just throw that out that that's, I think it's
important. I'm not sure it's in the right category. Under housing,what does the word cohort
mean? C-o-h-o-r-t.
Aanenson: An age group.
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Conrad: No kidding. I'm even in that business and I don't know it, okay. I guess again it goes
back to the policy page. Kate or Bob,under that 25%bonus. Could you throw that out to three
good developers,builders and have them tell you what that means to them?
Aanenson: Sure.
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Conrad: Good ones. I want, obviously the good ones but let's get some feedback on what that
means. I'd be interested. You brought it up and I'll just underscore it but again, I tell you, it's
terribly unfair to tell a builder that we've got a range here for density but boy, we're not going to
tell you where we want you to be in that range. So I don't mind trying to push a density level. I
think that may be appropriate but I need some guidelines on how to push it but I also need to
communicate, one thing you need to do to a builder/developer is to tell them the rules. The only
thing they hate is when they don't know what the rules are. So that one seems and I've said it so
I just want to underscore that.
Peterson: Other questions or comments?
Blackowiak: I have some comments. I don't know, do you have anything you want to say? I'm
just going to run through land use quickly, as Ladd did. A few things that kind of jumped out at
me. Under community liabilities. Talking about large land owners. Having the ability to retain
their tracts. Convince me that's a liability.
Aanenson: Well what it does is it's forcing you to develop land that's outside the MUSA to
bring additional property in where we've already made a capital investment for the lift station
and we have to bypass them. So what it does is it forces you to put other infrastructure,the roads
may be in place,which they are in this circumstance,and sewer and water's gone by the property.
So what we have to do is expend dollars somewhere else to bring in another property. It may not
be if we chose not to grow at a certain rate but what it does is it, you know adding having
property open space is fine but.
Blackowiak: Well to me it's an asset actually.
Aanenson: It could be.
Blackowiak: I mean you're talking about diversity of housing types and wanting to have a
community that is,you know made up of different types of houses and open space, etc. And to
have areas of open space, not a bad thing. And I understand from a fmancial aspect that it would
be nice to have everybody hooked up at exactly the same time but unfortunately I don't think it's
going to happen.
Aanenson: No, what we're talking is people that are holding 100 acres.
Blackowiak: Right,right. Prince or whatever, specifically. I know a couple of them that you're
referring to so I certainly understand what you're saying but I really wouldn't say that's a
liability. I would say it's like a concern or even it goes into the next paragraph or the next
section...land use. I really, it's not a liability, I don't... To the maximum allowable density. I
made a comment about that. Ladd you talked about it a little bit. It scares me to say you're going
to have to go with the high end or else we're going to deny you. If the attorney's comfortable
with it, fine. But if you're going to have a range, then I think that that's what people should be
able to do. And to force them or to say that we're going to not approve them because they're not
at the high end of density, I don't think is really fair. And again,you kept on saying tonight that
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we have to look at things and to decide if they make sense and I think that's really going to have
to be the overriding principle. Does it make sense? You know, it would be ideal if it could be at
the highest, but if like you say,North Bay you want it at 10. You got it at 7. You like the
project. You know it made sense.
Aanenson: Well we wouldn't do that again. I mean the only reason you did that because we've
never, ever done a detached and you cannot do a detached in a low density district. We couldn't
do that project in a low density. So what we're saying is if we want to participate in the Livable
Communities Act, and we're not going to have this policy in place, we are going to have to go
back and redistribute some of our low density to other land uses. So that's, otherwise we can't
meet our goals.
Blackowiak: Yeah, I understand that. I'm just saying it just scares me when you shut that out
there.
Aanenson: Yes. Yes.
Blackowiak: MUSA. MUSA line. It scares me to have dates, and I've said it before. Not
tonight but.
Aanenson: Dates for expansion?
Blackowiak: Yes.
Aanenson: Okay.
Blackowiak: I would like to have no earlier than or something to that effect. I don't like the idea
of saying 2005, because if I picked up this map and I was a speculator and I wanted to buy
property, and if this did not come in in 2005, I'd have a gripe with the city and I think that I'd be
justified in having it.
Generous: Well it could be in the MUSA like but if we can't do the capital programming, that's
their. They can do it. We'd allow them to extend it.
Aanenson: It's the same thing we have today. We have people that are inside the MUSA that we
cannot provide service to and they're still two years waiting for it.
Blackowiak: Yeah and that's fine but it just scares me.
Aanenson: I understand your concern. The other thing is we have to provide...it's one of the
requirements for the Met Council but I understand your concern and we can certainly Alison,
maybe qualify what we mean by that.
Blackowiak: Maybe that's what I mean.
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Aanenson: I think that's a good point.
Blackowiak: I mean I'd be a little more comfortable if you just, I just don't like those dates. I
mean to me that's like concrete and it's going to happen then and we all well know that it just
might not. And finally, preservation and adaptive... Has there been anything designated
significant at this point?
Aanenson: Well we have some farmsteads. For example on the Rod Gram piece, when that
came in. The homestead was saved. I think that's some of the apertures. We worked it into the
plat. Those are the kind of opportunities that we're talking about. If we can work some of those.
Actually we worked the round house into the park. Those are the kind of things we're looking at.
Blackowiak: Okay. And housing, I'll go quickly. I guess the only thing was the 25%bonus. I
was confused.
Aanenson: Good point.
Blackowiak: I think Ladd's suggestion of getting some other opinions is a good idea because it
just didn't make a lot of sense to me so. That's it.
Peterson: Other comments from fellow commissioners.
Brooks: I just want to say really quickly that I was talking about they're not comfortable with
maybe a, they're more comfortable with a range instead of forcing the maximum number of units
in a high density area. But that might, but if we do the range, that might take away from some of
the low density. I want to make sure that we keep some of the low density down there...because
otherwise I guess where I'm going is that I like the idea of pushing the high density areas to keep
the low density. Otherwise Chanhassen's just not, it's not going to be a pretty place to live.
Conrad: Maybe you want more medium density then. That's a decision. ...about what Kate's
saying. Then find an area to put some, then that definitely communicates to a builder/developer,
hey. They want some medium density and that's.
Brooks: We want to follow the, we want to provide the affordable housing...we really need to
keep in mind the visual aspects of Chanhassen. What this place is going to look like.
Conrad: I don't think the residents really want to provide affordable. I think if you were to, you
know, so it's a real sensitive issue.
Aanenson: Yeah, I agree with what Ladd's saying. I think it's not always the affordability. It's
what we're trying to also encourage is the diversity of housing types. We want to make sure that
we're meeting the first time home buyer. We're meeting somebody elderly that wants a single
level and...what we're trying to ensure is that we have the life cycle housing so we can meet the
needs of those future people that we want to stay here or move here.
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Conrad: Good objective.
Peterson: Get enough direction Kate?
Aanenson: Yes, thank you. Great comments. Thank you. I know it was a lot to read and it was
a lot to listen to. But I hope that we were able to give you some good information.
Peterson: With that, do I hear a motion and a second to adjourn?
Sidney moved,Joyce seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in favor and the motion
carried. The meeting was adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
Submitted by Kate Aanenson
Planning Director
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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