Agenda and PacketAGENDA
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 20, 2020, 7:00 PM
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 7700 MARKET BOULEVARD
A.WORK SESSION
B.CALL TO ORDER
C.PUBLIC HEARINGS
1.Consider a Request for Subdivision Approval to Create Three Lots (Berrospid
Addition) with a Variance for the Use of a Private Street on Property Located at 7406
Frontier Trail
D.APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1.Approve Planning Commission Minutes dated October 6, 2020
E.ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS
1.City Council Action Update
F.ADJOURNMENT
G.OPEN DISCUSSION
1.Engineering Project Updates
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PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
REPORT
Tuesday, October 20, 2020
Subject Consider a Request for Subdivision Approval to Create Three Lots (Berrospid Addition) with a
Variance for the Use of a Private Street on Property Located at 7406 Frontier Trail
Section PUBLIC HEARINGS Item No: C.1.
Prepared By Bob Generous, Senior Planner File No:
PROPOSED MOTION:
The Chanhassen Planning Commission recommends that City Council approve a threelot subdivision with a
variance for the use of a flag lot and private street subject to the conditions of the staff report and adopts the
Findings of Fact and Recommendation.
SUMMARY OF REQUEST
The applicant is requesting subdivision approval with a variance for the use of a flag lot and private street for a threelot
singlefamily residential development.
APPLICANT
Luis Berrospid 7406 Frontier Trail Chanhassen, MN 55317
SITE INFORMATION
PRESENT ZONING: Residential SingleFamily DIstrict, RSF
LAND USE:Residential Low Density (net density 1.2 4 units per acre)
ACREAGE: 2.02 acres
DENSITY: 1.53 unitsw per net acre
APPLICATION REGULATIONS
Chapter 18, Subdivisions
Chapter 20, Article XII, “RSF” SingleFamily Residential District
BACKGROUND
Auditors Subdivision No. 2 was platted on August 24, 1939.In 1968, a portion of the parcel was separated from the
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFFREPORTTuesday, October 20, 2020SubjectConsider a Request for Subdivision Approval to Create Three Lots (Berrospid Addition) with aVariance for the Use of a Private Street on Property Located at 7406 Frontier TrailSectionPUBLIC HEARINGS Item No: C.1.Prepared By Bob Generous, Senior Planner File No: PROPOSED MOTION:The Chanhassen Planning Commission recommends that City Council approve a threelot subdivision with avariance for the use of a flag lot and private street subject to the conditions of the staff report and adopts theFindings of Fact and Recommendation.SUMMARY OF REQUESTThe applicant is requesting subdivision approval with a variance for the use of a flag lot and private street for a threelotsinglefamily residential development.APPLICANTLuis Berrospid 7406 Frontier Trail Chanhassen, MN 55317SITE INFORMATIONPRESENT ZONING: Residential SingleFamily DIstrict, RSFLAND USE:Residential Low Density (net density 1.2 4 units per acre)ACREAGE: 2.02 acres DENSITY: 1.53 unitsw per net acre APPLICATION REGULATIONSChapter 18, SubdivisionsChapter 20, Article XII, “RSF” SingleFamily Residential DistrictBACKGROUND
Auditors Subdivision No. 2 was platted on August 24, 1939.In 1968, a portion of the parcel was separated from the
original lot (Subdivision 681).The house on the lot was built in 1969.
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission approve the subdivision with a variance for the use of a flag lot and
private street subject to the conditions of approval and adopts the Findings of Fact and Recommendation.
ATTACHMENTS:
Staff Report
Findings of Fact and Recommendation
Development Review Application
Preliminary Plat
Site Development Plans
Revised Sheet 9
Affidavit of Mailing
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
PC DATE: October 20, 2020
CC DATE: November 9, 2020
REVIEW DEADLINE: October 15, 2019
CASE #: 2019-13
BY: RG, EH, TH, DN, JS
SUMMARY OF REQUEST: The applicant is requesting subdivision approval with a variance for
the use of a flag lot and private street for a three-lot single-family residential development.
LOCATION: 7406 Frontier Trail
Lot 19, Auditor’s
Subdivision No. 2
APPLICANT: Luis Berrospid
7406 Frontier Trail
Chanhassen, MN 55317
PRESENT ZONING: Single-Family
Residential District, RSF
2020 LAND USE PLAN: Residential Low
Density (net density 1.2 – 4 units per acre)
ACREAGE: 2.02 acres DENSITY: 1.53 units per acre
LEVEL OF CITY DISCRETION IN DECISION-MAKING:
The city’s discretion in approving or denying a preliminary plat is limited to whether or not the
proposed plat meets the standards outlined in the Subdivision Regulations and Zoning Ordinance. If
it meets these standards, the city must approve the preliminary plat. This is a quasi-judicial decision.
The city’s discretion in approving or denying a variance in conjunction with a subdivision is limited
to whether or not the proposed project meets the standards in the Subdivision Ordinance for a
variance. The city has a relatively high level of discretion with a variance because the applicant is
seeking a deviation from established standards. This is a quasi-judicial decision.
Notice of this public hearing has been mailed to all property owners within 500 feet.
PROPOSAL/SUMMARY
The applicant is requesting subdivision approval to create a three-lot plat with a variance for the use
of a flag lot and private street.
PROPOSED MOTION:
“The Chanhassen Planning Commission recommends that City Council approve a three-lot
subdivision with a variance for the use of a flag lot and private street subject to the conditions of
the staff report and adopts the Findings of Fact and Recommendation.”
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SITE CONSTRAINTS
Wetland Protection
There is no wetland located on the property.
Bluff Protection
There are no bluffs on the property.
Shoreland Management
The property is located within a shoreland overlay district for Lotus Lake.
Floodplain Overlay
This property is not within a federally designated floodplain
APPLICABLE REGULATIONS
Chapter 18, Subdivisions
Chapter 20, Article XII, “RSF” Single-Family Residential District
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BACKGROUND
Auditors Subdivision No. 2 was platted on August 24, 1939. In 1968, a portion of the parcel was
separated from the original lot (Subdivision 68-1). The house on the lot was built in 1969.
STREETS
Access to the property will be via private street which connects to Frontier Trail, a local public
street.
The property being proposed to be subdivided (7406 Frontier Trail) is currently served by a private
driveway that encroaches onto the northern-abutting property (7404 Frontier Trail). The applicant is
proposing to remove the driveway and its current encumbrance onto the property to the north, and
construct a private street to serve all three lots. Staff finds that the use of a private street is in
accordance with city’s Code of Ordinances (Ordinances), Sec. 18-57. The developer will be
required to adhere to all private street standards and regulations as addressed in the Ordinances, the
city’s Standard Specifications and Details, and install all traffic control that is consistent with the
current version of the Minnesota Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices.
As the proposed development will have common sections of the private street that will serve two
units or more with a density of less than four units per acre, the private street shall be built to a
seven-ton design, paved to be a width of 20 feet, utilize a maximum grade of ten percent, and
provide a turnaround area acceptable to the fire marshal based upon guidelines provided by
applicable fire codes and Ordinances. While the applicant has provided private street details and
cross-sections, calculations based on in-situ soil types or the designated approved subgrade shall be
supplied by a registered engineer supporting the 7-ton street design. It is recommended that a
Homeowners Association be formed and the declarations address the maintenance responsibilities
and associated costs of repairs for the private street. As the private street is not within an Outlot,
private access agreements will need to be recorded to grant Lots 1 and 2 the right for ingress/egress.
Lastly, review of the required dead-end fire apparatus road turnaround found that the modified
hammerhead approach would not allow for a proper turning movement of the Fire Department’s
design vehicle (Engine #1). The applicant shall update the turnaround design to allow for proper
turning movements, and provide the city updated plans for review and approval. All other Fire
Department comments and conditions associated with the private street shall be adhered to.
Private streets serving up to four lots may be permitted in residential developments with a density of
less than four units per acre if the criteria in variance Section 18-22 are met and upon consideration
of the following:
(1) The prevailing development pattern makes it unfeasible or inappropriate to constrict a public
street. In making this determination, the city may consider the location of existing property lines and
homes, local or geographic conditions and the existence of wetlands.
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(2) After reviewing the surrounding area, it is concluded that an extension of the public street
system is not required to serve other parcels in the area, improve access, or to provide a street system
consistent with the Comprehensive Plan.
(3) The use of a private street will permit enhanced protection of the city's natural resources
including wetlands and forested areas.
The use of the private street meets the criteria specified in City Code since it is not necessary to
provide access to adjacent properties, would create an excessive amount of hardcover with minimal
public benefit and would require even more environmental impacts.
EASEMENTS AND RIGHT-OF-WAY
The applicant is proposing mostly typical public drainage and utility easements (D&U) along the
proposed subdivision’s lot lines. However, due to existing and proposed public utilities, the
applicant has provided additional D&U on Lot 3 of the proposed subdivision. A 10’ D&U on the
west lot line of Lot 3 was added to accommodate the proper maintenance and repair of an existing 6”
cast iron water main, along with a 15’ wide D&U over the proposed 21” reinforced concrete
stormwater conveyance system near the northeast corner of Lot 1. Furthermore, additional D&U is
being proposed over the private street to accommodate the newly proposed public sanitary sewer
main, and public water main. Encroachment agreements for any private infrastructure or
improvements within public D&Us will be required prior to recording of final plat.
The subdivision abuts Frontier Trail, a residential public street just west of Lotus Lake. As currently
platted, the property’s northeast corner extends over Frontier Trail. In order for proper maintenance
and access to the public street and utilities, dedication of additional right-of-way over Frontier Trail
is required. The preliminary and final plat submitted by the applicant illustrates dedicating this
additional right-of-way and was reviewed by staff to be adequate; at its maximum width the
applicant has proposed the dedication of an additional 30’ of right-of-way, see Figure 1 below.
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EXISTING CONDITIONS SURVEY
The applicant had provided with the original Development Review Application, submitted
August 16, 2019, an existing conditions survey that generally met the requirements of Sec. 18-40.
The only required information that was not provided were the locations of all existing utilities such
as sanitary sewer mains and laterals, and water mains and laterals (Sec. 18-40 (2)i). The applicant
shall submit an updated survey upon submittal of final construction plans illustrating all existing
utilities within and surrounding the property.
The existing conditions survey and civil plan sheets show an existing retaining wall that appears to
be built to benefit the property to the south (7460 Frontier Trail) encroaching into the southeast
corner of the proposed subdivision. Additionally, a hard surface improvement (a driveway) is also
encroaching from the property to the south into the proposed subdivision in the same location. As
these encroachments will be within the newly platted public drainage and utility easement for Lot 1,
the applicant shall file for an encroachment agreement concurrently with the recording of final plat.
Any and all conditions required by the County Surveyor for recording of the final plat must be met
prior to recording.
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GRADING AND DRAINAGE
The site slopes generally from west to east, with the west side of the site having an elevation of
approximately 972 feet and the east side having an elevation of 922 feet. Due to this approximate 50
foot change in elevation, the private street grade has been designed to maintain a maximum 10%
grade for approximately 100 feet, then gradually transitions over another 50 feet to achieve a 2%
grade, before teeing into Frontier Trail. The proposed grading plan maintains the overall drainage
pattern from the existing conditions.
The existing house on Lot 3 is located on the western portion of the site, and the newly proposed
Lots 1 and 2 are on the eastern portion. As the newly created Lots are down gradient of the site’s
drainage, it is imperative that they are graded as to steer stormwater runoff from the proposed
houses. Updated grading plans from the applicant shall illustrate the drainage arrows around the
homes on Lot 1 and 2 to ensure it is graded to drain stormwater away from the building’s location.
Lastly, the geotechnical report by Paul Gionfriddo, P.E. (Lic #23093) with Haugo GeoTechnical
Services indicates that the in-situ soils are not suitable for foundation, driveway (private street) or
utility support and will need to be removed and replaced with suitable compacted fill. All
recommendations from the geotechnical report shall be adhered to, and a geotechnical engineering
firm shall be on-site during grading operations as required to ensure the city’s Standard
Specifications and Detail Plates are adhered to along with any Minnesota Building Code
requirements. Although groundwater was not encountered on the initial boring, a double ring
infiltration test was attempted and the test pit began to fill with water from the saturated soils in the
vicinity. If groundwater is encountered during grading, the grades shall be adjusted to maintain a
3-foot separation from the bottom floor elevation and adhering to the recommendations of the soil
engineer on site. Changes to grades shall be submitted to the city for review and approval.
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RETAINING WALLS
The applicant is proposing three retaining walls within the subdivision due to the grade changes
discussed above in “Grading and Drainage”. The height of any retaining wall is measured from the
top of the wall to the bottom of the footing (not to the top of grade). Two of the three retaining walls
will have a height greater than four (4) feet. These walls shall be constructed in accordance with
plans prepared by a registered engineer and shall be constructed of a durable material (smooth face
concrete, masonry/mortared, railroad ties and timber are prohibited). No such plans or details were
submitted with the construction plans, and must be provided prior to issuance of grading permits.
Lastly, the retaining wall supporting the required fire apparatus access road turnaround, located on
Lot 3, will be required to account for the surcharge of the Fire Department’s design vehicle (Engine
#1). The required analysis and plans shall be provided to the city fo r review and approval.
EROSION PREVENTION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL
The proposed development will not exceed one (1) acre of disturbance and will, therefore, not be
subject to the General Permit Authorization to Discharge Stormwater Associated with Construction
Activity Under the National Pollution Discharge Elimination/State Disposal System (NPDES
Construction Permit). However, an Erosion and Sediment Control Plan (ESCP) in accordance with
Ordinances shall be submitted for the grading operations of the subdivision as more than 5,000
square feet of land is being disturbed. The applicant has provided an ESCP, and while overall the
plan appears feasible, it is deficient as it does not include all the requirements listed under Sec. 19-
145.(a)(2) such as the requirement that drainage boundaries and direction of drainage pre- and post-
development be indicated. As such, the applicant shall update the ESCP and resubmitted for review
and approval prior to grading operations. Additional comments regarding the ESCP can be found
under the Recommendations for “Construction Plans”.
SANITARY SEWER AND WATER MAIN
The proposed subdivision has access to public sanitary sewer and water that is located within
abutting right-of-way and/or public drainage and utility easements. Access to an 8” vitrified clay
sanitary sewer main can be had from within a public drainage and utility easement abutting the
property to the north (7404 Frontier Trail). Access to a 6” cast iron water main can be had from
within the right-of-way of Frontier Trail, abutting the property to the east. The applicant is
proposing to extend both of these public utilities into the subdivision. The plans shall be updated to
abandon the existing services up to the mains and install all new services to the each lot within the
subdivision. These new services will be had from the newly extended utilities. Water and sanitary
sewer hook-up charges will only be required for Lots 1 and 2, and not for Lot 3 where the existing
home is located. The applicant’s contractor shall coordinate with the Public Works department 48-
hours prior to connecting to any public mains. The extension of the public mains throughout the
development shall be owned and maintained by the city after acceptance of the public improvements
by the City Council.
As the sanitary sewer main is located within a 25’ wide public D&U to the north, access to the main
will be available. Nonetheless, continued coordination with the property owner of 7404 Frontier
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Trail shall be conducted by the applicant and their contractor(s). Construction plans shall be updated
to show that utility work in the D&U will not encroach onto private property (e.g. temporary
perimeter fencing to delineate construction limits) unless temporary construction easements are
provided, and a note prescribing that restoration of all disturbed areas will be performed to match or
improve the existing site conditions.
Prior to commencement of any utility work, a copy of all required permits from the appropriate
regulatory agencies shall be provided to the city which shall include but is not limited to the
Minnesota Department of Health, Metropolitan Council Environmental Services, and the Minnesota
Pollution Control Agency.
STORMWATER MANAGEMENT
Article VII, Chapter 19 of City Code describes the required stormwater management development
standards. Section 19-141 states that “these development standards shall be reflected in plans
prepared by developers and/or project proposers in the design and layout of site plans, subdivisions
and water management features.” These standards include abstraction of 1.0 inch of runoff from the
new impervious surfaces created by the project and water quality treatment resulting in the removal
of 90% total suspended solids (TSS) and 60% total phosphorous (TP). The applicant has worked
with the Riley Purgatory Bluff Creek Watershed District (RPBCWD) and the city and has generally
met all the requirements.
The applicant submitted a preliminary Drainage Narrative (DR) produced by Eric Fagerberg, P.E.
(Lic. #53772) with James R. Hill, Inc. The applicant proposes volume control, rate control and
water quality treatment of stormwater runoff with the use of an underground infiltration chamber
located on the east side of the development (east side yard of Lot 1). Based on the information and
analysis provided in the DR regarding treatment of stormwater for TS and TPP, the underground
infiltration method proposed is sufficient to meet the requirements of the city and rate controls have
been shown to reduce post-construction flows from pre-existing flows. One point of clarification is
whether the ditch checks on the plans are for construction stormwater practices or permanent
stormwater treatment; if they are temporary BMPs during construction, they should not be included
in the P8 modeling. Furthermore, volume control (abstraction) was met as the soil borings and
analysis identifying “Type D” soils (slow draining, “tight” soils with an infiltration rate of 0.06
in./hr.), which qualified the project site to be restricted through RPBCWD rules. The classification
of a restricted site lowers the required abstraction to 0.55 inches, in which the applicant has shown to
provide abstraction to the maximum extent practicable with 0.27 inches of abstraction (approved by
RPBCWD engineer), which is acceptable to staff.
Ordinances require buildings to maintain at least three feet of freeboard adjacent ponding areas and
floodplains. Per the submitted HydroCAD model by the applicant, the underground infiltration
system has a 100-year HWL of 925.00 feet, and the adjacent home on Lot 1 has a low floor elevation
of 927.00 feet (two feet of freeboard). As such, the applicant shall modify the low floor elevation of
the building on Lot 1 to allow for three feet of freeboard. Plans, and if necessary models, shall be
resubmitted for review and approval. Along with the updated plans, the applicant shall submit
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rational-method calculations to confirm that the storm sewer is adequately sized for a 10-year
rainfall event.
Lastly, the applicant shall provide an operation and maintenance plan (O&M) for the private
stormwater BMPs. The O&M of private stormwater BMPs is required in perpetuity and must be
approved by the Water Resources Coordinator, or their designee, to be recorded against the
benefiting properties. It is recommended that a Homeowners Association be formed and the
declarations address the maintenance responsibilities and associated costs of repairs and
maintenance of the private stormwater facilities. All conditions, comments, and applicable permits
required by Riley Purgatory Bluff Creek Watershed District shall be adhered to.
WETLANDS AND BUFFERS
A portion of the eastern part of the parcel has the potential to be considered a wetland. The area is a
low depression in the landscape. Additionally, an initial review of soil data in the area shows this
area to be classified as Hamel loam, 0 to 2 percent slopes, which is considered a hydric soil. As such,
it is possible that a wetland exists in this area. A wetland delineation should be submitted to verify
the presence of wetlands on the property. In addition, submitted plans show areas of cut and fill in
this potential wetland area. If this is a wetland and it will be impacted, an approved wetland
replacement plan must be submitted and approved through the Wetland Conservation Act approval
process before any wetlands can be impacted.
If a wetland exists on the property, a wetland buffer and setback will need to be maintained. To
determine the required wetland buffer width, a Minnesota Routine Assessment Method (MnRAM)
survey will need to be completed and approved (likely in conjunction with the wetland delineation)
to determine the wetland classification.
STORMWATER UTILITY CONNECTION CHARGES
Section 4-30 of City Code sets out the fees associated with surface water management. A water
quality and water quantity fee are collected with a subdivision. These fees are based on land use
type and are intended to reflect the fact that the more intense the development type, the greater the
degradation of surface water.
This fee will be applied to the new lots of record being created. It is calculated as shown in the table
below:
SURFACE
WATER
DEVELOPMENT
FEE
AREA PER ACRE FEE ACRES FEE
GROSS AREA $8,320 0.7690 $6,398.08
Right-of-Way $8,320 -0.0600 $(499.20)
NET AREA 0.3503 $5,898.88
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ASSESSMENTS
Water and sewer partial hookups are due at the time of final plat. The partial hookup fees will be
assessed at the rate in effect at that time; 2020 rates for partial hookup fees are $691.00 per unit for
sanitary sewer and $2,392.00 per unit for water. The remaining partial hookups fees are due with the
building permit.
Fees
Based on the proposal, the following fees would be collected with the development contract:
a) Administration Fee: If the improvement costs are between $500,000 and $1,000,000, 2% of
the improvement costs. If the improvement costs exceed $1,000,000, 2.5% of the first
$1,000,000 plus 1.5% of the remainder.
b) Surface Water Management Fee: $5,898.88
c) A portion of the water hookup charge: $2,392.00/unit
d) A portion of the sanitary sewer hookup charge: $691.00/unit
e) Park Dedication Fee: $11,600.00
f) GIS Fees: $25 for the plat plus $10 per parcel
LANDSCAPING AND TREE PRESERVATION
The applicant for the Berrospid Addition property development has submitted tree canopy coverage
and preservation calculations. They are as follows:
Total upland area (excluding ROW) 1.9 ac. or 85,277 SF
Baseline canopy coverage 96% or 82,517 SF
Minimum canopy coverage required 55% or 46,902 SF
Proposed tree preservation 55% or 47,277 SF
The developer appears to meet minimum canopy coverage for the site, but will need to verify
calculations before final approval. The tree preservation plan does not match the disturbed area
shown in the plan set. The applicant will be required to plant replacement trees if tree removal for
the subdivision falls below the minimum allowable area of preservation.
Disturbance is shown on the neighboring property to the north. Tree removal must be kept to a
minimum and preserved trees must be fenced for protection.
A minimum of one tree is required to be planted in the front yard of each new home as required by
ordinance. No buffer yards are required as all neighboring properties have the same land use.
PARKS & RECREATION
The quality and number of recreational facilities in a community directly contributes to its quality of
life. For this reason, the City of Chanhassen places a strong emphasis on parks and open space.
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Parks
The goal of neighborhood parks is to provide informal recreational opportunities close to where
people live. Chanhassen operates under the standard that all residents should be within walking
distance, or a half mile, of a neighborhood park. The proposed subdivision is located within ½
mile of South Lotus Lake Park, Kerber Pond Park and City Center Park.
Trails
The city’s goal is to maintain a comprehensive and easily navigable trail and sidewalk system that
connects neighborhoods to park and recreation facilities, schools, community destinations and other
communities. No additional trails are required of this subdivision.
Park and Trail Conditions of Approval
Full park fees in lieu of additional parkland dedication and/or trail construction shall be collected as
a condition of approval for Berrospid Addition for the two new housing units only. The park fees
will be collected in full at the rate in force upon final plat submission and approval. Based upon the
city’s 2020 single-family park fee of $5,800 per unit, the total park fees for Berrospid Addition
would be $11,600.
MISCELLANEOUS
The private road will follow City of Chanhassen Code for Private Roads – including a turnaround for
emergency vehicles. The road is over 150 feet in length.
Building plans must provide sufficient information to verify that the proposed building meets all
requirements of the Minnesota State Building Code, additional comments or requirements may be
required after plan review. A building permit must be obtained before beginning any construction.
Retaining walls more than four feet high must be designed by a professional engineer and a building
permit must be obtained prior to construction. If any soil corrections are done on the property, a
final grading plan and soil report must be submitted to the Inspections Division before permits will
be issued.
COMPLIANCE TABLE
Area (sq. ft.) Width (ft.) Depth (ft.) Hard Cover
% / sq. ft.
Notes
Code 15,000 100 # 125 25 / 3,750 #Lots served via private street
must have 100 ft. of width at
building setback
Lot 1 18,289 106 154 25/ 4,572 North property line is
designated front lot line. This
is a corner lot for setback
purposes.
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Lot 2 15,208 100 152 25 / 3,802 North property line is
designated front lot line.
Lot 3 44,520* 193 316 25 /11,130 *7,260 sq. ft. of the neck lot
area excluded from total lot
area of 51,780 sq. ft.; east lot
line is front property line
ROW 2,614 0.06 ac.
Total 87,891 2.02 acres
Setbacks: 30 Feet Front and Rear; 10 Feet Side
Sec. 20- 922. - Designation of alternate front lot lines for single-family dwellings
For single-family dwellings, the front yard shall be the line nearest the public right-of-way that
provides access to the parcel unless:
1) The City Council designates an alternate front lot line as part of the subdivision. In this
instance, the front lot lines for Lots 1 and 2 shall be the northerly lot line adjacent to the private
street.
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission approve the subdivision with a variance for the use
of a flag lot and private street subject to the following conditions and adopts the Findings of Fact and
Recommendation:
Building
1. Building plans must provide sufficient information to verify that proposed building meets all
requirements of the Minnesota State Building Code, additional comments or requirements
may be required after plan review.
2. A building permit must be obtained before beginning any construction.
3. Retaining walls more than four feet high must be designed by a professional engineer and a
building permit must be obtained prior to construction.
4. If any soil corrections are done on the property, a final grading plan and soil report must be
submitted to the Inspections Division before permits will be issued.
Engineering
1. All driveways shall have direct access only to the proposed private street.
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2. Construction plans shall be updated to show the 25’ D&U located on 7404 Frontier Trail, the
means of how utility work in the D&U will not encroach onto private property, and a note
prescribing restoration methods of the disturbed areas within the D&U.
3. All applicable permits required by the Riley Purgatory Bluff Creek Watershed District shall
be obtained and adhered to.
4. Calculations supporting the 7-ton private street design shall be submitted by a professional
engineer for review and approval prior to grading operations.
5. The private street shall be owned and maintained by the benefiting properties.
6. The applicant shall update the fire apparatus access turnaround design to allow for proper
turning movements of the Fire Department design vehicle (Engine #1), and provide the city
with updated plans for review and approval.
7. Encroachment agreements for any proposed private infrastructure or improvements shall be
provided prior to recording of the final plat.
8. An updated existing conditions survey shall be submitted prior to grading operations that
includes all existing utilities within and surrounding the property.
9. An encroachment agreement for all existing structures within public drainage and utility
easements, regardless of ownership, shall be filed concurrently with the recording of the final
plat.
10. Updated grading plans shall be submitted that illustrate drainage arrows and adequate
grading to drain stormwater away from structures, specifically the proposed homes on Lots 1
and 2, prior to grading operations.
11. Recommendations from Haugo GeoTechnical Services shall be adhered to.
12. A geotechnical engineering firm shall be on-site during grading operations as required to
ensure conformance to City Standards and Specifications and all Minnesota Building Codes.
13. Grades shall be adjusted to maintain a three (3) foot separation from the bottom floor
elevation if groundwater is encountered; any changes to grades shall be submitted to the city
for review and approval.
14. The retaining wall supporting the required fire apparatus access road turnaround shall
account for the surcharge of the Fire Department’s design vehicle (Engine #1). The required
analysis and plans shall be provided to the city for review and approval.
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15. An erosion and sediment control plan in accordance with Sec. 19-145 of City Ordinances
shall be included with updated plan submittals prior to grading operations.
16. Existing water and sewer service laterals shall be abandoned at the main. All services shall be
had from the newly extended water main and sanitary sewer main.
17. All newly installed sanitary sewer and water mains and appurtenances shall be publicly
owned and maintained by the city after acceptance of the public improvements by the City
Council.
18. Prior to commencement of any utility work, a copy of all required permits from the
appropriate regulatory agencies shall be provided to the city which shall include but is not
limited to the Minnesota Department of Health, Metropolitan Council Environmental
Services, and the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency.
19. The newly installed stormwater facilities and appurtenances shall be owned and maintained
by the benefiting properties.
20. Lot 1’s low floor elevation shall be adjusted to allow for three feet of freeboard from the
100-year HWL of the underground infiltration system.
21. The applicant shall submit rational-method calculations to confirm that the storm sewer is
adequately sized for a 10-year rainfall event.
22. All applicable permits required by the Riley Purgatory Bluff Creek Watershed District shall
be obtained and adhered to.
23. The applicant shall enter into a Development Contract with the city and pay all the applicable
fees and securities prior to recording of final plat.
24. A wetland delineation and MnRAM should be submitted and approved to determine if
wetlands are present on the property.
25. If wetlands exist on the property and impacts to the wetland (cut or fill) are proposed, a
wetland replacement plan must be submitted and approved before any wetland impacts can
occur.
Construction Plans
1. On sheet 1.0, Title Sheet: update contact information for City Engineer to “Charles Howley,
P.E., LEED AP”.
2. On sheet 2.0, Grading Plan: as no site plan was provided call-out dimensions of turnaround
and the radii for the private street; add call-out to relocate utility pole and light near the top
and within the private street; clearly label or depict that no encroachment into the property to
7406 Frontier Trail
October 20, 2020
Page 15
the north is proposed as it appears the radius of private street that connects to Frontier Trail
extends into property to the north; add detail #5202A to detail sheets as it is being called out
on this plan sheet; add to legend D&U line; show EOF(s) on plan sheet.
3. On sheet 2.1, Erosion & Sediment Control Plan: update hatching for “stabilized construction
entrance” to be consistent with the legend for construction entrance; construction entrance
must meet the dimensions of the standard detail plate (50’ long and 20’ wide minimum),
update plans accordingly; add disturbance limits to the area impacted by the water tie-in near
hydrant; add dewatering notes; add note that final stabilization of areas outside
subdivision/property (i.e. disturbance near water main tie-in and sanitary sewer tie-in) need
to be restored to existing or better condition; add to legend check dams, indicate whether
temporary or permanent.
4. On sheet 3.0, Utility Plan: consider use of HDPE rings on sanitary manhole in street to allow
for slope, call-out if they are to be used; the curb stop location for Lot 3 shall be at the D&U
line, ensure call-out for cover aligns with detail #5208; trees are located over the newly
proposed sanitary sewer which has been assumed to be open trench, however, the trees are
indicated to be saved, clarify and update plans accordingly; existing services shall be
abandoned at the main and all service laterals will be had from the extension of new utilities,
update plans accordingly; all public sanitary sewer mains and water mains require profile
views, update accordingly; a wet-tap will not be approved and a tee with sleeves shall be
installed, coordination with the Public Works department 48-hours prior to the connection
must be had as valves will have to be shut, notes must be added to this effect; On sheet 4.0,
Construction Details; update all detail plates to the most recent versions, an update occurred
during 2020 and not all detail plates.
Environmental Resources
1. The applicant shall verify tree removal and disturbed area calculations to determine actual
tree preservation before final approval.
2. Tree preservation fencing must be installed at the edge of grading limits prior to any grading
activities.
Fire
1. The private road will need to follow City of Chanhassen Code for Private Roads – including
a turnaround for emergency vehicles.
Parks
1. Full park fees in lieu of additional parkland dedication and/or trail construction shall be
collected at the rate in force upon final plat submission and approval for the two new lots.
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October 20, 2020
Page 16
Planning
1. The front lot line for Lots 1 and 2 shall be the northerly property line.
2. An access and maintenance agreement for the private street shall be recorded with the plat.
ATTACHMENTS
Findings of Fact and Recommendation
Development Review Application
Preliminary Plat
Site Development Plans
Revised Sheet 9
Public Hearing Notice and Mailing List
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES, MINNESOTA
FINDINGS OF FACT
AND RECOMMENDATION
IN RE: Application of Luis Berrospid – Planning Case No. 2019-13, Berrospid Addition.
Request for Subdivision Approval creating three lots and right-of-way fo r public streets
with a Variance for the use of a flag lot and private street located at 7406 Frontier Trail.
On October 20, 2020, the Chanhassen Planning Commission met at its regularly
scheduled meeting to consider the application of Luis Berrospid for a single-family residential
development. The Planning Commission conducted a public hearing on the proposed
development preceded by published and mailed notice. The Planning Commission heard
testimony from all interested persons wishing to speak and now makes the following:
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. The property is currently zoned Single-Family Residential District, RSF.
2. The property is guided in the Land Use Plan for Residential – Low Density uses.
3. The legal description of the property is shown on the attached Exhibit A.
4. SUBDIVISION FINDINGS
a. The proposed subdivision is consistent with the zoning ordinance and meets all of the
requirements of the “RSF” Single-Family Residential District;
b. The proposed subdivision is consistent with all applicable city, county and regional plans
including but not limited to the city's Comprehensive Plan;
c. The physical characteristics of the site, including but not limited to topography, soils,
vegetation, susceptibility to erosion and siltation, susceptibility to flooding, and stormwater
drainage are suitable for the proposed development;
d. The proposed subdivision makes adequate provision for water supply, storm drainage,
sewage disposal, streets, erosion control and all other improvements required by this
chapter;
e. The proposed subdivision will not cause significant environmental damage subject to
compliance with conditions of approval;
f. The proposed subdivision will not conflict with easements of record, but rather will expand
and provide all necessary easements;
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g. The proposed subdivision is not premature. A subdivision is premature if any of the
following exists:
1) Lack of adequate stormwater drainage.
2) Lack of adequate roads.
3) Lack of adequate sanitary sewer systems.
4) Lack of adequate off-site public improvements or support systems.
5. VARIANCE FINDINGS WITH A SUBDIVISION
a. The hardship is not a mere inconvenience by providing reasonable access to three properties
while reducing potential impacts to the natural features on the site;
b. The hardship is caused by the particular physical surroundings, shape or topographical
conditions of the land including trees; a public street is not necessary to provide access to
adjacent properties;
c. The condition or conditions upon which the request is based are unique and not generally
applicable to other property because of the previously stated conditions of the property;
d. The granting of a variance will not be substantially detrimental to the public welfare and is
in accord with the purpose and intent of subdivision regulations, the zoning ordinance and
Comprehensive Plan since it will reduce potentially significant impacts on the site.
6. The planning report #2019-13 dated October 20, 2020, prepared by Robert Generous, et al, is
incorporated herein.
RECOMMENDATION
The Planning Commission recommends that the City Council approve the proposed
Preliminary Plat approval for two lots and public right-of-way with a Variance for the use of a flag
lot and private street for a single-family detached subdivision.
ADOPTED by the Chanhassen Planning Commission this 20th day of October, 2020.
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
BY:
Steven Weick, Chairman
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Exhibit A
Lot 19, Auditor’s Subdivision No. 2, Carver County, Minnesota, except that part described as
follows: Commencing at the most Southerly corner of said Lot 19, thence North along the West
line of said lot 340 feet, thence Easterly deflecting at an angle of 90°10’ to the right from said last
described course, a distance of 272.8 feet; thence Northeasterly deflecting to the left at an angle of
27°44’ from said last described course, a distance of 309.6 feet to a point in the Northeasterly line of
said Lot 19; thence Southeasterly along the Northeasterly line of said Lot 19 a distance of 162.21
feet more or less, to the Southeasterly or most Easterly corner of said lot, thence Westerly and
Southwesterly along the Southerly line of Lot 19 to the point of beginning.
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COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT
Planning Division —7700 Market Boulevard CITY OF CIIANIIASSNMailingAddress—P.O. Box 147, Chanhassen, MN 55317
Phone: (952) 227-1300/Fax: (952)227-1110
APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW
Submittal Date //
qIIC." / / Y PC Date i 1 /-7 /19 CC Date: /O/f Ll /19 60-Day Review Date: IC) f ( S I/
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Section 1: Application Type(check all that apply)
Refer to the appropriate Application Checklist for required submittal information that must accompany this application)
Comprehensive Plan Amendment 600 El Subdivision (SUB)
Minor MUSA line for failing on-site sewers $100 Z Create 3 lots or less .. 300
Create over 3 lots 600 + $15 per lot
Conditional Use Permit(CUP) lots)
Single-Family Residence 325 Metes & Bounds (2 lots) 300
All Others 425 Consolidate Lots 150
Interim Use Permit(IUP)
Lot Line Adjustment 150
In conjunction with Single-Family Residence..$325
Final Plat 700
Includes $450 escrow for attorney costs)*
425AllOthers Additional escrow may be required for other applications
through the development contract.
Rezoning (REZ)
Planned Unit Development(PUD) 750 Vacation of Easements/Right-of-way(VAC) $300
Minor Amendment to existing PUD 100 Additional recording fees may apply)
All Others 500
tel Variance (VAR)200
Sign Plan Review 150
Wetland Alteration Permit(WAP)
Site Plan Review (SPR) Single-Family Residence 150
Administrative 100 All Others 275
Commercial/Industrial Districts* 500
Plus $10 per 1,000 square feet of building area:
El Zoning Appeal 100
thousand square feet)
Include number of existing employees:
Zoning Ordinance Amendment (ZOA) 500
Include number of new employees:
Residential Districts 500 NOTE: When multiple applications are processed concurrently,
the appropriate fee shall be charged for each application.
Plus $5 per dwelling unit (units)
Notification Sign (City to install and remove) 200
I Property Owners' List within 500' (City to generate after pre-application meeting) 3 per address
ln addresses) 17-07
Escrow for Recording Documents (check all that apply) 50 per document
Conditional Use Permit Interim Use Permit Site Plan Agreement
Vacation Variance Wetland Alteration Permit
Metes & Bounds Subdivision (3 docs.)Easements ( easements) Deeds)tJ s=
TOTAL FEE: )69S7. i7
Section 2: Required Information
Description of Proposal: Preliminary and Final Plat of one parcel into two lots.
Property Address or Location: 7406 Frontier Trail, Chanhassen, MN
Parcel #: 250800300 Legal Description: attached
Total Acreage:2.02 Wetlands Present? Yes 10 No
Present Zoning: Single-Family Residential District(REE Requested Zoning: Single-Family Residential District(RSFf
Present Land Use Designation: Residential Low Dens Requested Land Use Designation: Residential Low Density
Existing Use of Property:
residential home site CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Check box if separate narrative is attached.
RECEIVED
AUG 16 2019
CHANHASSEN PLANNING DEPT
Section 3: Property Owner and Applicant Information
APPLICANT OTHER THAN PROPERTY OWNER: In signing this application, I, as applicant, represent to have obtained
authorization from the property owner to file this application. I agree to be bound by conditions of approval, subject only to
the right to object at the hearings on the application or during the appeal period. If this application has not been signed by
the property owner, I have attached separate documentation of full legal capacity to file the application. This application
should be processed in my name and I am the party whom the City should contact regarding any matter pertaining to this
application. I will keep myself informed of the deadlines for submission of material and the progress of this application. I
further understand that additional fees may be charged for consulting fees, feasibility studies, etc. with an estimate prior to
any authorization to proceed with the study. I certify that the information and exhibits submitted are true and correct.
Name:Luis Berrospid Contact: Luis Berrospid
Address: 7406 Frontier Trail Phone:
City/State/Zip:
Chanhassen, MN 55317 Cell:763)280-0528
Email: errospidC•; .1 .c•Fax:
Signature: troifiA.„4— Date: G Mi
PROPERTY OWNE . In igning this application, I, as property owner, have full legal capacity to, and hereby do,
authorize the filing of this application. I understand that conditions of approval are binding and agree to be bound by those
conditions, subject only to the right to object at the hearings or during the appeal periods. I will keep myself informed of
the deadlines for submission of material and the progress of this application. I further understand that additional fees may
be charged for consulting fees, feasibility studies, etc. with an estimate prior to any authorization to proceed with the
study. I certify that the information and exhibits submitted are true and correct.
Name: same Contact:
Address: Phone:
City/State/Zip: Cell:
Email: Fax:
Signature: Date:
This application must be completed in full and must be accompanied by all information and plans required by
applicable City Ordinance provisions. Before filing this application, refer to the appropriate Application Checklist
and confer with the Planning Department to determine the specific ordinance and applicable procedural
requirements and fees.
A determination of completeness of the application shall be made within 15 business days of application submittal. A
written notice of application deficiencies shall be mailed to the applicant within 15 business days of application.
PROJECT ENGINEER(if applicable)
Name: James R. Hill, Inc.Contact: Rick L. Osberg, PE
Address: 2500 County Rd. 42 West, Ste 120 Phone: 952) 890-6044
City/State/Zip: Burnsville, MN 55337 Cell:612)437-7690
Email: rosberg@jrhinc.com Fax:
Section 4: Notification Information
Who should receive copies of staff reports? Other Contact Information:
O Property Owner Via: 0 Email Mailed Paper Copy Name:
Applicant Via: [' Email Mailed Paper Copy Address:
0 Engineer Via: 0 Email Mailed Paper Copy City/State/Zip:
Other* Via: Email Mailed Paper Copy Email:
INSTRUCTIONS TO APPLICANT: Complete all necessary form fields, then select SAVE FORM to save a copy to your
device. PRINT FORM and deliver to city along with required documents and payment. SUBMIT FORM to send a digital
copy to the city for processing.
SAVE FORM PRINT FORM SUBMIT FORM
BEARINGS ARE BASED ON THE NORTHEASTERLY LINE
OF LOT 19, AUDITOR'S SUBDIVISION NO. 2 WHICH IS
ASSUMED TO HAVE A BEARING OF S 31°07'13" E.
VICINITY MAP
DENOTES FOUND 1/2 INCH IRON MONUMENT
DENOTES SET 1/2 INCH BY 14 INCH IRON MONUMENT
WITH CAP MARKED R.L.S. NO. 47481
DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENTS BEING
5 FEET IN WIDTH, UNLESS OTHERWISE
INDICATED, ADJOINING LOT LINES, AND
BEING 10 FEET IN WIDTH, UNLESS
OTHERWISE INDICATED, ADJOINING RIGHT
OF WAY LINES, AS SHOWN ON THE PLAT.
DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENTS
ARE SHOWN THUS:
DRAWN BY
DATE
REVISIONS
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described as follows: Commencing at the most Southerly corner of said Lot 19; thence
North along the West line of said lot 340 feet, thence Easterly deflecting at an angle
of 90°10' to the right from said last described course, a distance of 272.8 feet; thence
Northeasterly deflecting to the left at an angle of 27°44' from said last described
course, a distance of 309.6 feet to a point in the Northeasterly line of said Lot 19;
thence Southeasterly along the Northeasterly line of said Lot 19 distance of 162.21
feet more or less, to the Southeasterly or most Easterly corner of said lot; thence
Westerly and Southwesterly along the Southerly line of Lot 19 to the point of
beginning.
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TREE REMOVALS
REF. #SIZE & TYPE
107 6" MAPLE
108 19" ELM
109 10" ASH
110 11" ELM
111 20" ASH
112 6" MAPLE
113 8" BOX ELDER
114 9" BOX ELDER
115 8" BOX ELDER
116 7" BOX ELDER
117 8" BOX ELDER
124 21" BOX ELDER
125 8" BOX ELDER
126 15" BOX ELDER
127 8" BOX ELDER
128 6" MAPLE
129 16" BOX ELDER
130 14" ASH
131 8" MAPLE
132 9" MAPLE
133 7" MAPLE
134 7" MAPLE
135 8" MAPLE
136 21" BOX ELDER
137 7" BOX ELDER
138 9" BOX ELDER
139 17" BOX ELDER
140 17" BOX ELDER
141 10" BOX ELDER
142 6" MAPLE
143 9" BOX ELDER
144 6" MAPLE
145 13" BOX ELDER
146 15" BOX ELDER
149 6" MAPLE
150 12" BOX ELDER
153 14/13/10" MAPLE
154 10" ELM
155 14/13" ASH
156 9" MAPLE
157 7" MAPLE
158 12" MAPLE
159 12" MAPLE
160 8" MAPLE
161 9" MAPLE
162 7" MAPLE
163 11" MAPLE
164 12" MAPLE
165 7" MAPLE
166 8" MAPLE
167 7" MAPLE
168 7" MAPLE
169 22" ELM
170 10" MAPLE
171 9" MAPLE
172 11" MAPLE
173 12" MAPLE
174 6" MAPLE
175 12" HACKBERRY
176 13" MAPLE
177 15" ASH
178 8" MAPLE
179 16" MAPLE
180 15" ELM
181 11" MAPLE
TREE REMOVALS
REF. #SIZE & TYPE SAVE/REMOVE
100 19" BOX ELDER SAVE
101 8" MAPLE SAVE
102 10" BOX ELDER SAVE
103 14" BOX ELDER SAVE
104 13" BOX ELDER SAVE
105 12" BOX ELDER REMOVE
106 30" MAPLE SAVE
107 6" MAPLE REMOVE
108 19" ELM REMOVE
109 10" ASH REMOVE
110 11" ELM REMOVE
111 20" ASH REMOVE
112 6" MAPLE REMOVE
113 8" BOX ELDER REMOVE
114 9" BOX ELDER REMOVE
115 8" BOX ELDER REMOVE
116 7" BOX ELDER REMOVE
117 8" BOX ELDER REMOVE
118 7" BOX ELDER SAVE
119 8" MAPLE SAVE
120 9" BOX ELDER SAVE
121 10" ASH SAVE
122 8" ELM SAVE
123 9" BOX ELDER SAVE
124 21" BOX ELDER REMOVE
125 8" BOX ELDER REMOVE
126 15" BOX ELDER REMOVE
127 8" BOX ELDER REMOVE
128 6" MAPLE REMOVE
129 16" BOX ELDER REMOVE
130 14" ASH REMOVE
131 8" MAPLE REMOVE
132 9" MAPLE REMOVE
133 7" MAPLE REMOVE
134 7" MAPLE REMOVE
135 8" MAPLE REMOVE
136 21" BOX ELDER REMOVE
137 7" BOX ELDER REMOVE
138 9" BOX ELDER REMOVE
139 17" BOX ELDER REMOVE
140 17" BOX ELDER REMOVE
141 10" BOX ELDER REMOVE
142 6" MAPLE REMOVE
143 9" BOX ELDER REMOVE
144 6" MAPLE REMOVE
145 13" BOX ELDER REMOVE
146 15" BOX ELDER REMOVE
149 6" MAPLE REMOVE
150 12" BOX ELDER REMOVE
153 14/13/10" MAPLE REMOVE
154 10" ELM REMOVE
155 14/13" ASH REMOVE
156 9" MAPLE REMOVE
157 7" MAPLE REMOVE
158 12" MAPLE REMOVE
159 12" MAPLE REMOVE
160 8" MAPLE REMOVE
161 9" MAPLE REMOVE
162 7" MAPLE REMOVE
163 11" MAPLE REMOVE
164 12" MAPLE REMOVE
165 7" MAPLE REMOVE
166 8" MAPLE REMOVE
167 7" MAPLE REMOVE
168 7" MAPLE REMOVE
169 22" ELM REMOVE
170 10" MAPLE REMOVE
171 9" MAPLE REMOVE
172 11" MAPLE REMOVE
173 12" MAPLE REMOVE
174 6" MAPLE REMOVE
175 12" HACKBERRY REMOVE
176 13" MAPLE REMOVE
177 15" ASH REMOVE
178 8" MAPLE REMOVE
179 16" MAPLE REMOVE
180 15" ELM REMOVE
181 11" MAPLE REMOVE
195 10" MAPLE SAVE
196 7" BASSWOOD SAVE
201 9" MAPLE SAVE
203 7" ELM REMOVE
209 14" MAPLE SAVE
210 10" MAPLE SAVE
213 30" BASSWOOD SAVE
214 6" MAPLE SAVE
215 7" MAPLE SAVE
216 18" MAPLE SAVE
217 10" MAPLE SAVE
218 19" MAPLE REMOVE
219 26" MAPLE REMOVE
220 12" IRONWOOD SAVE
221 23" PINE SAVE
222 8" IRONWOOD SAVE
223 16/11" BASSWOOD REMOVE
224 7" IRONWOOD REMOVE
225 13" BOX ELDER REMOVE
226 14" MAPLE REMOVE
227 27" MAPLE REMOVE
228 22" MAPLE REMOVE
229 29" MAPLE REMOVE
230 6" ELM REMOVE
231 26" MAPLE SAVE
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
AFFIDAVIT OF MAILING NOTICE
STATE OF MINNESOTA)
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COUNTYOFCARVER )
I, Kim T. Meuwissen, being first duly swom, on oath deposes that she is and was on
October 8,2020, the duly qualified and acting Deputy Clerk of the City of Chanhassen,
Minnesota; that on said date she caused to be mailed a copy ofthe attached notice ofa Public
Hearing to consider a request for subdivision approval to create three lots (Berrospid
Addition) with a variance for the use of a private street. Zoned Single-Family Residential
(RSF), Planning Case No.20l9-13 (Resubmittal 9-f8-20) to the persons named on attached
Exhibit "A", by enclosing a copy ofsaid notice in an envelope addressed to such owner, and
depositing the envelopes addressed to all such owners in the United States mail with postage
fully prepaid thereon; that the names and addresses ofsuch owners were those appearing as such
by the records ofthe County Treasurer, Carver County, Minnesota, and by other appropriate
records.
Ki T. Meuwissen,lerk
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REPORT
Tuesday, October 20, 2020
Subject Approve Planning Commission Minutes dated October 6, 2020
Section APPROVAL OF MINUTES Item No: D.1.
Prepared By Nann Opheim, City Recorder File No:
PROPOSED MOTION:
The Chanhassen Planning Commission recommends approval of the minutes from its October 6, 2020 meeting.
ATTACHMENTS:
Planning Commission Summary Minutes dated October 6, 2020
Planning Commission Verbatim Minutes dated October 6, 2020
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
SUMMARY MINUTES
OCTOBER 6, 2020
Chairman Weick called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Steve Weick, Eric Noyes, Michael McGonagill, Mark Randall and
Douglas Reeder
MEMBERS ABSENT: Laura Skistad and Mark Von Oven
STAFF PRESENT: Kate Aanenson, Community Development Director; MacKenzie Walters,
Associate Planner; Matt Unmacht, Water Resources Coordinator; and Matt Kerr, IT Support
Specialist
PUBLIC PRESENT:
Peter Eskuche Deephaven
Todd & Kari Carstensen Chanhassen
PUBLIC HEARING:
CONSIDER REQUEST FOR BLUFF, SHORELAND, ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SIZE,
AND OTHER VARIANCES TO CONSTRUCT A NEW HOME AND DETACHED
ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6915 HIGHOVER LANE.
MacKenzie Walters presented the staff report on this item. The architect Peter Eskuche
explained the rationale for the placement of the house and detached garage on the site. Chairman
Weick asked about the impacts associated with shifting the house to the buildable area of the lot.
Commissioner Noyes asked for clarification on the dimension and primary use of the secondary
garage. Commissioner McGonagill asked the applicant to explain his thought process of
building on this site when he bought the property. Chairman Weick opened the public hearing
and noted that one email was received and was included as a part of the record. No one else
spoke and the public hearing was closed. After discussion among commission members the
following motion was made.
Noyes moved, Randall seconded that the Planning Commission table Planning Case 2020-
20 for 90 days and direct the applicant to work with city staff based on the comments
provided. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Commissioner Noyes noted the verbatim and summary
Minutes of the Planning Commission meeting dated September 15, 2020 as presented.
Planning Commission Summary – October 6, 2020
2
ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS.
Kate Aanenson provided an update on action taken by the City Council at their September
14, 2020 and September 28, 2020 meetings and discussed items proposed for future Planning
Commission agendas.
Randall moved, McGonagill seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in favor and the
motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0. The Planning Commission meeting was
adjourned at 8:15 p.m.
Submitted by Kate Aanenson
Community Development Director
Prepared by Nann Opheim
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 6, 2020
Chairman Weick called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Steve Weick, Eric Noyes, Michael McGonagill, Mark Randall and
Douglas Reeder
MEMBERS ABSENT: Laura Skistad and Mark Von Oven
STAFF PRESENT: Kate Aanenson, Community Development Director; MacKenzie Walters,
Associate Planner; Matt Unmacht, Water Resources Coordinator; and Matt Kerr, IT Support
Specialist
PUBLIC PRESENT:
Peter Eskuche Deephaven
Todd & Kari Carstensen Chanhassen
Weick: So for the record we do have a quorum for tonight’s meeting. Just briefly I would like
to review the guidelines for this evening’s meeting. We are getting good at this but it is a Zoom
meeting so please be patient. I would ask all of our commission members not to hold any chats,
discussions or text messages on the side. Everything needs to be public and through the Zoom
application. All of our discussions need to be public and for the record. As I mentioned we have
one hearing on tonight’s agenda and we will present it as follows. Staff will present the item. It
will then be opened for commission questions and comments of staff. Then the applicant may
make a presentation if they would like and at that time we would also, they would be available
for questions from the Planning Commission as well. We’ll also have a public hearing portion of
tonight’s item. Anyone present may come forward and speak regarding this item. We will also
and have also summarized the emails and we did receive at least one email that will be in the
record and we will publish a phone number and you may call in at the appropriate time if you are
listening and would like to provide your comment. When everybody has had a chance to be
heard we’ll close the public hearing. There’ll be another opportunity for comments from the
Planning Commission members and we can have a motion and a vote as appropriate.
PUBLIC HEARING:
CONSIDER REQUEST FOR BLUFF, SHORELAND, ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SIZE,
AND OTHER VARIANCES TO CONSTRUCT A NEW HOME AND DETACHED
ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6915 HIGHOVER LANE.
Weick: With that I will turn it over to MacKenzie. Thank you MacKenzie.
Chanhassen Planning Commission – October 6, 2020
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Walters: Thank you Chair. So this is a variance request for bluff setback variance, bluff impact
zone variance, shoreland setback and accessory structure side variance to construct a home,
driveway and accessory structures on the property at 6915 Highover Lane. If this is approved or
denied by a three-fourths majority vote that decision is final unless appealed. Anyone aggrieved
of the decision has four business days to appeal the decision in writing to the City. If it is
appealed it would appear on the City Council agenda on October 26th. Were the motion to be
carried by less than a three-fourths vote it would automatically go to the City Council so with
that out of the way I will get into it. The property is located at 6915 Highover Lane. This
property is zoned residential single family district. It is riparian lot. That means it has a 4,000
square foot lot area minimum. Requires 30 foot front and rear setbacks. 10 foot side yard
setbacks. The property is encumbered by a bluff which has a 30 foot bluff setback, 20 foot bluff
impact zone, 150 foot shoreland setback. The City has a global 1,000 square foot accessory
structure size limit. That’s a cumulative limit for all detached accessory structures on a property.
The property has a 30 foot utility easement for the benefit of I believe Xcel Energy and their
power lines that run across the west lot line and there is a Manage 2 wetland on the east side of
the property. Although that wetland is well clear of any proposed construction activities and I
mention it just for completeness. Little bit of history on this subdivision. 6915 Highover Lane is
part of the Lake Harrison subdivision. This was created in 2005. At that time the City’s current
bluff ordinance was in full effect. The setbacks and definition of a bluff have no changed since
1991 when they were first created. When this lot was originally proposed during the subdivision
process the developer had requested a 20 foot bluff setback and 20 foot bluff impact zone
variance for this lot to allow for a larger home. The Planning Commission and City Council
denied that requested variance due to concern about sensitive environmental features, namely the
bluff, the trees and wetland complex that would be downstream of that. The Planning
Commission had recommended at the time that the lot not be created unless the developer
showed it could be built without a variance. The developer provided this exhibit here showing
that a house could be placed on the lot without requiring a variance. Because that was shown the
City Council approved the lot with the stipulation that the bluff and trees not be disturbed and
here I put in red and blue the sewer and water stubs approximate location that were extended into
the lot. Some abbreviated background on this site. Starting in November 17th staff was made
aware that grading and vegetative removal had occurred on this property within the bluff impact
zone and that the property was being used to store equipment associated with a contractor’s yard.
Over the next year staff worked with the applicant to address these issues. Remove the items
being stored. Restore portions of the bluff. At this time staff explained the site constraints of the
property owner and recommended that any future construction occur in the approved building
pad. August of 2020 we received a pre-submittal showing the home located within the bluff.
Staff sent the approved home site to the applicant and recommended that the house be designed
to utilize the approved building pad. On September, 2020 we received a complete application
showing the home, driveway, and accessory structure within the bluff that is before you today.
On September of 2020 staff was informed that grading and vegetation removal had again
occurred and that the property was again being used to store equipment and materials. What the
applicant is requesting is that they be allowed to construct a house, driveway and accessory
structures within the required bluff setback and bluff impact zone. The accessory structures are
Chanhassen Planning Commission – October 6, 2020
3
also located partially within the 150 shoreland setback from Lake Harrison and the cumulative
size of the accessory structures is 1,418 square feet. The application has provided justifications
for this request in noting that most of the lot is encumbered by bluff setbacks. They feel there is
inadequate buildable area to accommodate a modern home. That the property lacks a private
yard area due to the walking trail that is along the west lot line and the presence of the 30 foot
electrical easement along the west lot line also constrains the building area. Just to explain this
graphic, the red line represents the top of the bluff. The yellow line the 20 foot bluff impact
zone. And the blue line is the 30 foot bluff setback. As you can see the vast majority of the
proposed impervious surface, lot cover and structures are located entirely within the bluff
setback. Staff did receive one email. This was attached to the staff report. The individual
submitting the email stated concern that the property would be used as a contractor’s yard and
that proposed attached buildings likely violate the subdivision’s neighborhood covenants. Staff
does not enforce neighborhood covenants but we also don’t like to put ourselves in a position
where we are approving stuff that is forbidden by them either. Staff looked at this primarily
through the lens of the potential impact to the bluff. Existing vegetation and it’s root structure
play a critical role in protecting and reinforcing slopes and soils on bluffs. That’s why the city
code strictly regulates and in most cases prohibits the removal of vegetation within 20 feet of the
top of the bluff and within the bluff itself. That’s the bluff impact zone as defined by city code.
Removing that vegetation and it’s root structure increases erodability of slopes which has the
potential to increase sediment load in wetlands and lakes. Right here you can see the area that
was cut out of the slope of the bluff to create a driveway. You can see a little bit of under cutting
already occurring here where the root structure’s been disturbed as well as soil that looks like it’s
been transported. This right here is the area that was approved by the City Council for tree
removal to accommodate a building pad. For reference the applicant’s proposed house would be
approximately here and the driveway is that this picture is from is approximately here. The other
major lens staff looked at is the impact on the wetlands and lakes. Risk of negatively impacting
wetlands and lake significantly increases when an adjacent development is proposed on steep,
erodible slopes. The setbacks are designed to minimize the disturbance of soil and vegetation
near lakes and prevent the creation of lot cover. Engineering and water resources departments
believe that the proposal would likely cause significant sediment runoff into the wetland.
Increased sediment load has the potential to degrade wetland and water quality. The DNR
submitted a letter that is included in your packet where they have recommended denial of this
variance request due to the potential to impact the water quality. So staff’s assessment of the
variance request is that due to environmental concerns the City has historically acted to preserve
steep slopes especially those near lakes and wetlands. One of the policies in our comprehensive
plan is actually to protect steep slopes whenever possible as well as to protect wooded areas
whenever possible. Variances should always be granted in harmony with the Comprehensive
Plan. We believe this proposal has significant risk of creating erosive conditions. The DNR has
recommended denial due to their concerns about the environmental impact of the proposed
variance. Staff believes a usable building area for both houses and a detached accessory
structure exists on the lot. This right here is a very rough footprint staff drew and measured out
that meets all of the bluff setbacks indicated by the applicant’s surveyor. It provides a 3,600
square foot footprint that would accommodate a 3 car garage as well as quite a bit of living space
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especially is a second story or basement were constructed. Staff feels this does represents a
reasonable use of the lot. A detached accessory structure could be built in the northwest corner
here. Staff sketched it out at about 800 square feet again without requiring any variances. When
looking at the surrounding neighborhoods there are no comparably sized accessory structures
present. The design of the detached garage is not what staff typically sees on residential single
family lots. Staff would also note that in 2005 significantly less extensive variances were denied
for this lot due to environmental concerns. Staff searched all variances issued by the City and
cannot find any comparable that have been granted. We’re very concerned with the precedent of
allowing new construction to occur directly within the bluff. Staff believes alternative designs
are possible that would allow comparable use of the property without the issuance of a variance
and for these reasons staff recommends that the Planning Commission deny the requested
variances. If you have any questions I’d happily answer them at this time.
Weick: Thank you MacKenzie and with that I will open to commission members for questions
of MacKenzie. You can just go ahead and chime in. Hearing nothing from our commissioners I
would invite the applicant to come forward and either onto MacKenzie’s presentation or make
your own presentation. I would ask that you speak nice and loud. The microphone up there is
covered by plastic so it is hard for the folks on the TV to hear you. And welcome, thank you for
coming.
Peter Eskuche: Thank you. Thank you MacKenzie for presenting that well. Can everyone hear
me okay? I know you can but.
Weick: Can you guys hear okay on the phone?
McGonagill: Yes.
Weick: Okay. Thanks.
Peter Eskuche: My name’s Peter Eskuche. My office is in Deephaven. I’m a local architect and
I was hired by Todd and Kari Carstensen, the property owners who are here tonight and I believe
they may want to just say something super brief. I believe it wouldn’t be a bad time to just say
something quick right now. Because there’s nothing about detail. It’s more about what their
intent is.
Weick: That’d be great. I think that’d be useful presentation. Thank you and welcome.
Kari Carstensen: Hi there.
Todd Carstensen: Yes my name’s Todd Carstensen. I guess the history of this is, when this
came on the market I actually bought it that day which was about 7 years ago because we were
so in love with all the trees and how it looks and how private it really is and I didn’t realize about
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this bluff issue when I bought it. But the privacy of it was what we really liked. We’ve lived in
this town since we’ve been married.
Kari Carstensen: 2004 we bought the house.
Todd Carstensen: Yeah quite a few years ago and we’ve raised two kids and we want to keep it
as our forever house really so we like the town and we certainly hope we can build something
there so thank you.
Weick: Okay thanks.
Peter Eskuche: So they hired me to do a design for the home. I think the first thing that I did
was just I pulled out a book of about 170 different homes that we’ve done in the last on really in
only the last like 12 years. I haven’t really documented all of them in 27 years but, and I found
only one home that actually fit in that footprint of the allowable area but it’s like a 1,200 square
foot house that doesn’t really have, it has about a 3 car garage. I see strange stares so I’ll just
prove it.
Weick: We may be able to show the overhead.
Peter Eskuche: Sure so what I did.
Walters: Can you push the document cam please?
Weick: Just give us one second.
Peter Eskuche: Yeah sure. Perfect. So you can see this has a garage. 3 car garage but I would
say a pretty tight 3 car garage. Foyer, stairway, really small. This powder room, family, kitchen
and kind of a dinette. So it’s a really a little butter muffin rush so it actually fits but it’s I don’t
think it even meets the development minimums. So the first thing they started doing was
expanding on how we would build in this area but it became pretty quickly evident that it was
going to be descending quite a bit of hill, meaning that they wouldn’t really have much of any
yard. The only yard potentially would be the trail system which I’m sure you’ve been on the
trails lately. There’s quite a bit of people throwing dog poop including in their yard so they
didn’t necessarily think that was a suitable area safe for kids. And so we pretty quickly, you
know the whole point that they bought the property was so they could build a tree within the
woods and really just have a tree in the house so you can see the contours are very minimal for
the extent of house. This whole wing of the house is actually doesn’t have any foundation other
than piles so we tried to minimize again the impact on the site and try to preserve as many trees
as possible. Keep it a very natural environment. That being said you know we can move the
house around it’s just, it’s really not, you can see that this house really just wouldn’t fit in this
area so I think the main point of the application is that there’s certainly things that we could do to
make erosion better. You could in the front yard put a filtration area that could potentially carry
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all of the roof water and put it in the filtration area. If you look at how the grading is impacting
the site it’s almost not impacting the site very, it’s very little impact on the site. If you look at
the tree, there’s a tree inventory site as well. There’s really about 4 or 5 trees impacted here and
about 2 here. And because it’s minimal foundation we thought that that would do a pretty good
job of just staying within the trees. Preserving what they love about the site. You know of
course they don’t want any erosion either. That house then feeds out into this kind of open area
where they talked about doing a detached garage.
McGonagill: Can you speak in the microphone please sir. As you move around we can’t hear
you.
Peter Eskuche: Sorry about that. And so the house would basically kind of open up to what’s
still kind a bit of grade drop too but the area that’s open. This is that open kind of grassy area
and they propose to put this garage there. The site plan that we had didn’t show 150 setback. I
think that’s an adjustment that could be made in the locating of that. We talked about that today.
What we basically are trying to do is minimal impacting as possible while creating a safe
environment for their family to enjoy and really finding that this area is just really not large
enough. I know you show a 3,600 foot footprint. You know it’s just two rectangles basically but
when you try to apply all the rooms and garage doors and access and circulation you know that’s
when the problems started to arise so, and we’re trying to be as compliant in every other aspect.
Obviously we weren’t aware of the 150 foot setback which we could adjust but I’m here to
answer any other questions you might have and thank you for your consideration.
Weick: Yeah thank you. While maybe some of the commission members gather their thoughts
or if they do have questions I guess I would ask if, and you know I’m going to expose myself as
really not knowing anything about building houses right but if that house shifted over exactly
like it was onto the area so it just shifted onto the area that was identified as buildable.
Peter Eskuche: Yep.
Weick: Are we getting into a steep grade there that makes it difficult to do that?
Peter Eskuche: It would be slightly less steep actually.
Weick: It’d be less steep…if you just shifted that over.
Peter Eskuche: Yeah. In all honesty if you move this, this way say.
Weick: Yeah.
Peter Eskuche: So like this basically rectangle corner would be like here.
Weick: Right.
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Peter Eskuche: You could do that so I think the main reason we didn’t do that was because these
are all really significant maples.
Weick: So it’s the tree cover.
Peter Eskuche: Yeah and these are kind of wispy, a lot of basswoods. Some, a few maples.
Some elm that were kind of light and airy and it was a little easier to put the house in these trees
where these are pretty significant maples so we’re just trying to be a little less impactful on trees.
However of course you know as we know with elm, ash, oak wilt, you know it doesn’t seem to
really matter what kind of tree they are anymore. They seem to all get some sort of disease now
but unfortunately, but there’s a little bit of a struggle there with erosion versus trees.
Weick: Okay.
Peter Eskuche: But we could make a move. I think to some degree it gets very close to, and I
don’t know if any of the commissioners have been to the site.
Weick: I’ve seen it. I won’t speak for everybody but yeah.
Peter Eskuche: But you know you have the high power line tower as you’re getting closer this
way. You’re closer to the tower. You’re closer to the open area. You know right now there’s
just tons of people on the trail so it’s just a little bit more desirable to be more private there and
safe for their family. For their kids. And right under the power tower.
Weick: Okay.
Peter Eskuche: But good question, thank you.
Weick: Okay. That’s all I have. If there are other questions please speak up from the
commission. Commissioner Noyes.
Noyes: Is there a garage…
McGonagill: Commissioner Noyes could you speak up please? We can’t hear you sir.
Noyes: Can you hear me now?
McGonagill: Yes.
Noyes: Okay. The secondary garage that you’re planning, what are the dimensions of that and
what is the primary use of that building?
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Peter Eskuche: So the primary use of that building was just to store extra vehicles. They do
have a lot of miscellaneous shaped size vehicles so I don’t have my drawings handy. I don’t
know if MacKenzie can help me at all. I’ll grab my scale and see if I can just scale it off of this
drawing.
Walters: It’s 1,188 square foot structure. It has a lower level of vehicle storage and then an
upper level of vehicle storage and then the third level I believe has two rooms and a closet would
be off the top of my head but it’s more of a kind of open use area than store area I would
characterize it as.
Peter Eskuche: Yeah I guess the drawings are in the packet. There’s a lower garage, a main
garage, and then they just threw some storage above the garage. So there’s like I guess you
could call it a second, if this is called a walkout structure that would be like the second floor. If
the lowest level be at main level then you call it the third floor. You know it really depends.
Walters: Page 12 of your packet has the footprint.
Peter Eskuche: Basically is 45 by 26.
Noyes: Just a quick follow up question. Is the use of that building 100 percent residential use or
will it be used at all for any kind of commercial contracting related type of usage.
Todd Carstensen: I had a skid loader that I use.
Weick: Can you come up to the microphone I’m sorry. It’s just so the folks on the phone can
hear you.
Todd Carstensen: I have a skid loader and some attachments that I use just like to plow my
driveway and stuff because, especially this one that’s quite a long driveway and I couldn’t wait
for maybe a plow guy to come to get out you know so I’ve always had one. I have snowmobiles
and four wheelers and boats and plan on getting a camper so.
Noyes: Okay thank you.
Aanenson: Can I just clarify that too. I think that was one of the concerns that was raised by the
staff so I did do this subdivision so I have some history with this and we had a lot of interest in it
over the years but one of the concerns we have with a space this size was why we recommend
against this is they often turn into contractor’s yards. I’m not saying they’re going to do that but
that’s what happens and then there’s a lot of extra traffic on the road that’s unanticipated in a
residential street and then it becomes a staff’s problem to try to resolve that so we just want to be
transparent and say you cannot run a business in an accessory structure. Even if it’s
construction, snowplowing, gardening, landscaping, that sort of thing.
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Weick: Okay thank you.
McGonagill: Kate I do have a follow up question for you if I may. This is Commissioner
McGonagill. When this subdivision was platted before the applicant purchased it would it not
show this lot size and building site?
Aanenson: Anybody that inquired about it they were given that information. The buildable area
and the lot size.
McGonagill: So the developer or someone had to do that. Second question, Lake Harrison. I’m
real familiar with this area. Around here and around that trail quite a bit. I’ve walked it quite a
bit. In fact I was down, went down it this week again. Lake Harrison if I remember right is a
really closed lake. In other words there’s not a whole of outlet for it. It’s not like it can, it flows
well. I know when the Harrison subdivision was built particularly those houses off of Galpin
there was an awful lot of sensitivity to filtration into the, filtration into Lake Harrison, is that
correct?
Walters: I’ll defer to our Water Resources Coordinator for that question.
Unmacht: Thank you. Can you repeat that one more time?
McGonagill: I can’t hear you.
Unmacht: I’m sorry can you repeat that question commissioner.
McGonagill: Okay in the Lake Harrison I believe is a closed lake. What I mean by that it
doesn’t have a really good outlet. It’s not like it’s flowing like you would see in some other
places. It does have a sensitivity I know to sedimentation as well as just plant growth. I mean I
see a lot because I go by it a lot and when the Harrison subdivision was built and the houses were
around it I know there was a lot of sensitivity to that. You know the setbacks and putting them
back particularly on Harrison Hill which is on the other side of the power lines to that to keep
those people out of, you know to keep construction out of the zones and I know there were stakes
and everything through there to keep it looking at those. You know keep out the bluff. Is that
not correct?
Unmacht: Yeah I do believe that’s correct and that’s one of the other kind of concerns that I had
myself is that Harrison Lake is considered a natural environmental lake in this city. Not a
recreational development lake and what kind of ends up getting defined as can be kind of unclear
at times but it’s kind of more or less our code more or less goes by the DNR’s definitions but
Harrison Lake is not listed on the MPCA’s website for any impairments meaning sediment,
nutrient loads, mercury in fish tissue, etcetera but one of the concerns with a site like this is that
excessive erosion into the wetland which is immediately adjacent to the lake would potentially
down the road cause an impairment and it could be listed by the MPCA.
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McGonagill: Okay thank you. Mr. Chairman I do have a question for the applicant. Can I ask
that?
Weick: Yes please.
McGonagill: Okay Mr. Carstensen, this is Commissioner McGonagill. The question I have for
you, I understand looking at your website you’re a contractor. You build houses. You do that.
You do roofing. When you bought the lot being that kind of experience you had, I mean I agree
it’s a beautiful lot by the way. Beautiful trees. It’s really gorgeous now with all the colors
changing.
Todd Carstensen: Yes.
McGonagill: I would agree with you. So did you just think you could get a house in there or
what was your thought process…knowing your background in construction.
Todd Carstensen: Yeah I thought I could put a house in there. I mean I’ve been all over the state
not to mention the city and I’ve seen a lot of houses that are I guess considered by right by the
bluff. I mean I’m kind of surprised about this actually so.
McGonagill: Okay so you, and to your, you bought it from the developer but you didn’t really,
what I hear you say you didn’t go through and look at the City what you could do or not do. You
just assumed what you could do.
Todd Carstensen: Correct.
McGonagill: Okay. And on the, I guess another question I have, knowing your background as a
developer and knowing what it takes for permits I’m a little curious why you cut a road through
there knowing that stuff.
Todd Carstensen: I didn’t really. I didn’t understand about the bluff thing initially. I haven’t
built a house for over 30 years so I’m not, I wouldn’t be considered a builder really.
McGonagill: Okay, so because I know that I’ve seen your skid’s still there for a couple years
honestly.
Todd Carstensen: Yeah.
McGonagill: I walk by it a lot. Your roofing material is piled there. The other stuff’s there.
The only aspect of that being the logic of using that as a storage facility or not facility, as a
storage spot, did they talk to you about that. Again the logic, tell me your logic of doing that.
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Todd Carstensen: I’ve just been super swamped. I just haven’t had, I’ve just been trying to
make money.
McGonagill: Okay.
Todd Carstensen: I don’t have another spot for that stuff right now and I usually bring it back…
McGonagill: So if you would build this house you don’t have another spot where would you
propose to put that stuff?
Todd Carstensen: I’m not planning on working much longer actually.
McGonagill: Okay. Alright thank you sir.
Todd Carstensen: Yep.
Weick: Thank you Commissioner McGonagill. Did you want to circle back or you okay?
Kari Carstensen: No I think it was talked about.
Weick: Okay. Anything else, I didn’t mean to cut you off Commissioner McGonagill if you had
more questions. I’m sorry.
McGonagill: No I don’t think I do. I thought staff’s report was pretty complete and like you
Chairman I went and actually walked that site down both the private drive as well as the power
line. MacKenzie one thing you could, there’s one question I have for you. It’s a little bit
different situation but could you put up the overhead picture of where the private drive comes
through showing the lot size. Okay. Yeah now it shows, it’s the one that shows the private, yeah
that private drive coming through. There is a, when you look at the way that lot is laid out, if I
go off to the left, off this lot. You had it in the packet where it showed all the lots layout. Let
me see if I can find it here for you MacKenzie. It’s on page.
Walters: I may not have it in the power point I’m afraid.
McGonagill: It’s on page 7. I would direct the commissioners to that page 7 of the packet. In
that there is a, if you go down the private drive or go down the power line there is a house there
located right down from that house on Lot 11 I guess it’s called which it’s orientation and it’s
sensitivity to the bluff I would say is a fairly similar situation. Would you agree with that
MacKenzie?
Walters: Yeah both Lot 11 and Lot 12 were, if memory serves me right, subject to variance
requests by the builder and the exhibit you’re showing, you’re referring to the Lot 11 and 12
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detail were the proof of concept the developer gave showing that homes could be sited on these
lots without negatively impacting the bluff.
McGonagill: Right. And on Lot 12 that house, or Lot 11 that house is there.
Walters: Yes it is and it was built in accordance with the city code.
McGonagill: And what was the, the question I have now that they’re looking at it, to the left of
the house on Lot 11 there’s another little stub driveway in there. Do you know what they
originally intended to do with that?
Walters: I believe that is a turn around Commissioner McGonagill.
McGonagill: That was a turn around?
Walters: Yeah.
McGonagill: Because I was like okay I was…street going to go through there. So ideally when
the developer laid it out he did have similar lots on 11 and 12 that were shown to be buildable. Is
that correct?
Walters: Correct.
McGonagill: Okay. And I do understand that the house on Lot 12 is closer to the front, i.e.
closer to the trail and to the power line but that’s just the way it lays in there so I just thought
that was interesting. I just wanted to be sure I, that the other commissioners were aware of that.
That there is a house right down from it that kind of meets the code. Thank you,
Walters: Just so the folks at home can see if you can switch to the document cam of, zoom in.
Sorry about that. Unfortunately I think the colors are going to be a little dark on the document
cam.
McGonagill: That’s pretty close. You can point it out and just kind of, you can see it. It’s fuzzy
but you can see it MacKenzie. So that point out what I’m talking about here. The house down
the way and then where the proposed house would be if you would with a pencil MacKenzie.
Walters: Yeah so this would be the house on Lot 11 that Commissioner McGonagill was talking
about. This is the driveway turn around.
McGonagill: That’s existing.
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Walters: That’s the existing house correct and then this was the Lot 12 is the lot that the
variances in question for and this footprint was the developer’s proposed home site and
configuration.
McGonagill: Thank you MacKenzie. Thank you Mr. Chairman.
Weick: Okay. Other questions from the commissioners for the applicant or the architect?
Hearing none thank you very much. It’s useful information and it’s nice to hear your perspective
on how, what your hopes are anyway for, you know for building a home and living there so that
is useful information and thank you for coming and presenting that. With that I will open the
public hearing portion of tonight’s item. The phone number is on the screen. If you’re listening
952-227-1630. While we give it a few minutes for that we did receive as MacKenzie mentioned
we received one email and they specifically requested that it be part of the record and again we
will confirm that that email is part of the record and has been recorded. If anyone is present and
wants to come forward to speak about this item may do so at this time. And we do not have
anyone here. I can ramble for a few more minutes and I don’t think the phone’s ringing is it?
No. Okay with that I will close the public hearing portion of tonight’s item and open this for
commissioner discussion. And a motion as appropriate if desired. Beautiful piece of property.
Would love to putting myself in the homeowner’s or the landowner’s shoes, it would be
wonderful to see a home built there. It’s a nice property. But obviously has a lot of challenges.
Yeah go ahead please.
McGonagill: This is Commissioner McGonagill Mr. Chairman. Yeah it is a beautiful piece of
property and it’s a piece of property that I don’t blame him at all for the family wanting to enjoy
and they should be allowed to enjoy it. For sure. And the, because they own it and I do believe
you know in property rights to some degree. However that being said we do have a
responsibility to protect the environment both of Lake Harrison and the neighbor’s properties
around there. I guess I would say a home and garage can be built. I think there’s a couple of
different ways to go at it. I think it can be built on the pads that are there. As you’ve suggested
Mr. Chairman taking that house down, maybe switching it. Spinning it a little bit. Maybe
reducing the footprint maybe is a way to work that in. I don’t like that all the garage cutting in
through the bluff and going all the way down because I just think that goes against everything we
try to uphold environmentally with our water quality in the city. And similarly with the house
itself so I guess…what this is, there’s a way to build a house. Maybe not the dream house that
the applicant would want. There is a way to build a house there. There’s a way to build a garage
there and there’s a way to build a house and live there and enjoy the property. And at the end of
the day that is the objective. The other point is that the developer, etcetera they had the plats. It
was there. I don’t know the history of whether the applicant got that from the developer or not
but still it’s a known fact that’s there so I’m, I look at it and say the existing site can be built on
as is therefore there’s no need for a variance. And I would agree with staff’s position on denying
the setback. Denying the request for shoreland variance and the structure variance as well. And
the applicant it may not be the dream home but they can still enjoy the lot. Does that, do you
follow me Mr. Chairman?
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Weick: I do. Question for you. Do you have if, and I’m not proposing a solution in any way.
I’m just asking a question. If we weren’t discussing the accessory structure garage type
accessory structure that sort of sticks out into the bluff there more significantly, you know if we
were just talking about the home, does that change anything or is it?
McGonagill: Not really. I understand they’re putting the road element with pilings but they’re
still going to have to work through that bluff quite a bit and that’s just something that as a
commission and as City Council and environmentally we never really allow because we’re so
rigorous about maintaining the bluffs and the structures. What really makes me nervous too is
the water quality of Lake Harrison itself. It is, it’s fragile. I mean they were successfully built
all the homes around it but they were extremely careful with them and the setbacks. I can go
over and over because I saw them all go in. You follow me Mr. Chairman?
Weick: I am yeah.
McGonagill: So I would, I would say perhaps closer to your idea of move the house over on the
site that was approved. Maybe you could put some variances in there a little bit to make it a little
bit more workable but not so onerous but not all the way down the bluff into the flat area. I just
think that’s just, that’s just not according to our code. It’s not according to the philosophy we’ve
been rigorously trying to maintain.
Kari Carstensen: Can I ask a question?
Weick: Not really. Sorry.
Kari Carstensen: Okay Commissioner McGonagill.
McGonagill: Well that’s you know thank you for your question.
Weick: You look like you want to say something.
Randall: Yeah I do.
Weick: I want to hear it.
Randall: The home design is amazing. It’s creative for that location. You came up with some
really great ideas. Unfortunately I just think it’s going to be, it has to be closer to that set
location and I think you’re already doing a lot of creative work. I think you could probably get it
closer to that hopefully. I love the home design. I understand the garage thing. I’ve got a 6 car
garage and you can ask my wife they’re already full now and she’s upset about that so you can
never replace garage space but that being said I, it’s too much of a variance in my opinion and I
think that’s where we’re kind of alluding to before. If the variance was closer to that original
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pad area I think we can work with it. That outside garage down in the bluff area I don’t see how
that’s going to go through at all but the home design being able to utilize the bluff and I’m just
picturing looking over that in the morning how great that would be and the amount of light
you’re going to get coming in from in the morning and that type of thing.
Kari Carstensen: Is there any way when…because I really don’t like the idea of building near
power lines. I mean that’s never been talked that that was okay…so I just wonder if there’s
something you can do to change that.
McGonagill: Mr. Chairman we can’t hear her.
Weick: I’ll repeat it. I’ll repeat it for you.
McGonagill: Thank you very much.
Weick: Are you finished? Yeah and I’ll just summarize what was asked. I guess and it was
stated earlier but the big issue with the proposed, the City proposed building lot is the presence
of the overhead power lines and there’s some concern and I would, I can’t speak to that certainly
but that might be something that could be, I just, I’m not even going to guess.
Randall: No and I wouldn’t know how to go about that too but I understand her concern.
Weick: Yeah.
Randall: And we deal with this a lot. People might get a lake lot and it’s limited on setbacks and
what they need to get in their lot space and we try to work with them to try to come up with a
creative solution on it. I think you’ve guys have already worked a lot on that for just this
property alone but it needs to be closer to that existing print. Maybe figure out what to do with
the power lines. I don’t know how that’s going to work but that’s my two cents.
Weick: Thank you.
Kari Carstensen: Then I have a question then…or how do we go further on that?
Weick: Yeah Kate thanks.
Aanenson: So there’s two options that you can do right now.
Weick: Thank you.
Aanenson: If you want to give them some direction then that would be to table it. They’d have
to agree to a tabling and a certain timeframe. Waive their 60 days but I think it’s good that you
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set clear expectations of what the tabling is to give them direction. We do have power lines that
run along the backs of all those lots so the power line’s not going to move.
McGonagill: And those power lines go all the way through Longacres. They go through
Highover. They go through all those houses.
Aanenson: Correct, that’s correct.
McGonagill: They’re in close proximity to many houses.
Aanenson: Yeah but if the applicant wants to table it the Planning Commission could table it. If
it’s agreeable with them and a certain timeframe and then they, and again set clear expectations
of kind of what you’re going to be looking at so we don’t go through the same proposal again if
that makes sense.
McGonagill: No that’s very valuable Kate.
Aanenson: Otherwise the other choice would be to take the recommendation, whatever that is.
It could be appealed or forwarded onto City Council so but certainly willing to work with them
and see if we can, if that’s your desire.
Weick: Okay.
Kari Carstensen: Can I get clarification on that?
Weick: If so can you come up to the microphone, yeah.
Kari Carstensen: The clarification for me would just be that that still for us too working with an
architect because it’s expensive for us to go through these things. The clarification if we table it
will it be that you as a city are coming to us and giving us an option to help us not get you know
the same kind of result like giving us parameters and such.
Aanenson: It’s my understanding that MacKenzie did try to give you some parameters and you
had your first choice. That’s fine but what we’re saying now is that you know if we can try to
work together to get closer to what the objectives, whatever the council directs here and that’s
what we’re saying is we’ll work with their direction is.
Kari Carstensen: Gotch ya.
McGonagill: And if I may offer something to the applicant ma’am. I have found city staff to be
very workable to try to work with you to, they understand what you’re trying to do.
Kari Carstensen: Yeah.
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McGonagill: They gave you good advice. They know at least my personal opinion and others
that we want to protect the wetlands and protect the bluffs. I don’t speak for the rest of the
commission but I know how we feel about that. Then they can tell you from their own
experience, Kate and MacKenzie are very well versed on what they think is doable. The
problem may be that it may not be what you want to hear but that it will be the truth and they’ve
gone through this enough and I would trust them. I would encourage you to trust them to say
yeah this is workable or if it’s not jump the gun another way. Does that make sense ma’am?
Kari Carstensen: I understand.
McGonagill: They’re very good. We trust them so.
Noyes: You know the one thing that I would add, you know your request is, the variances are
extensive and per Commissioner Randall’s commentary, yeah I kind of agree with what he has
said. I always look at these and I think past what we’re talking about today. Whatever we do
today sets a precedent right and so one of my biggest concerns is that we’re issuing variances
related to bluffs. Related to wetlands. The minute we do that we have a lot more people in here
presenting variances that say hey, look at Case Number 2020-20 and they were granted
something so we also have to look further beyond kind of what we’re talking about today and
that like I said per Commissioner Randall’s thing I think the more we move it towards the
original approved site the better opportunity you’re going to have to achieve what you’re
wanting to do.
Weick: And that said I also in, as much as we can to Kate’s point and also to the request of the
applicant if we have opinions and beliefs about what is acceptable and is not acceptable it would
be, I mean there is money involved right with talking with architects so I guess I would ask, and
this might be not conventional but you know, I know I mentioned earlier moving the house over.
If we pretend that that wasn’t going to be a problem with the power lines or whatever it would
still stick over the, not only over the setbacks but it would still stick into the bluff right and I
guess my question to the commissioners would be, if you sat that would you be okay? Because I
think we want to give some direction both to city staff as well as the applicant that you know we
do not, you know we’re okay with encroaching on what’s the yellow line on slide.
Walters: The yellow line is the bluff setback.
Weick: Right.
Walters: And the blue line is the, and I’ll go to the slide in question.
Weick: Yeah that’s what I was looking at.
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Walters: The blue line here is the 30 foot structure setback. The yellow line is the 20 foot bluff
impact zone setback where the regulations because much more stringent to protect the top of the
bluff. And then the red line is the top line of the bluff itself.
Weick: Okay. And so you know for instance the house on Lot 11, I mean hugs that yellow line.
I believe.
Walters: The house on Lot 11, if I had drawn the same line would hug the blue line. It does not
encroach into the 30 foot bluff setback.
Weick: Okay. So I guess as I say that you know if we could give some opinion on the level of
encroachment and I’m not holding anyone to anything. I’m just asking for opinions here. And
also then on the accessory structure as well. You know to me I, Commissioner Randall said it
really well. The accessory structure I’m speaking of is the large garage I would call it. You
know being out in the flatter area I think poses, to me I don’t have an issue with the use. I don’t
think it’s for us to you know make a decision based on what a projected use may or may not be
of that but I think we absolutely have the right to talk about the size of the structure and location
on the property and I think we should speak to that as well. So any thoughts? I guess I’ll start.
Maybe that will help. I would say if there’s going to be a reworking of this I’m not comfortable
with that accessory garage being located out where it is. And I would, I’d be comfortable in my
opinion going to the yellow line. So over that blue line but to the yellow line. I would have, I’d
have to think more about if something extended past that yellow line. That’s just my opinion.
Would love some other thoughts.
Noyes: I would put myself in the same camp you’re in. I think the accessory structure is a really
difficult thing for me to process right now just because of the level of variance required for it. I
do think there’s ability to relocate that house and like I said I think the closer you get to the blue
and yellow line the more likely I think I would be to say yeah they’re doing whatever they can to
make sure they’re protecting the environment. They’re following the regulations and if we’ve
got to give a variance for you know a small change I think I’d be up for that.
Weick: I appreciate that, thank you.
Randall: And I would concur that also.
Weick: That was Commissioner Randall speaking. Anyone on the phone or on the Zoom,
Commissioner Reeder or Commissioner McGonagill? And as you’re maybe thinking or maybe
not I would, I’m not discouraging a motion either if anyone feels strongly to also propose a
motion as presented by city staff. We absolutely can entertain that as well.
McGonagill: I guess Mr. Chairman I, when I look at it and I’m more of the opinion of keeping
to the blue line if at all possible. If they want to encroach a little bit out of that, okay what does
that look like but it should be minor. I mean the accessory structure is not even a starter. I’m not
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even going to talk about that because it is what the other commissioners talked about it, it takes
so many variances. So my, I’ll reserve the right to vote when I see it and what the DNR says and
what our water quality people say. What our engineers say and I, that always is important to me
to see what the experts are telling us but I agree with you. It’s got to stay within the, to me the
blue line. If it exceeded over a little bit to the yellow line okay but those exceeds and variances
should not, should be minor. It shouldn’t take for example okay they said we go out to the
yellow line. But their neighbor will push it a little bit beyond the yellow line to the red line. No.
That’d be a non-starter for me. I mean I’m really nervous about as Commissioner, one of the
commissioners said starting down the slipper slope quite literally here giving a variance to lots
and wetlands and stuff like that with bluffs and what it can mean for water quality effect on
others. That being said I’d love to see a house in there because it’s a beautiful setting and so I
don’t know if I’m making myself clear on that but.
Weick: I think so and you know there certainly is enough, to me there’s enough disagreement.
You know I, maybe it’s better just to.
McGonagill: I’ll be more direct. I think if they’re across the red line it’d be a non-starter to me.
Weick: For sure.
McGonagill: Going across the yellow line’s almost a non-starter, would be a non-starter to me.
Playing around with it in there perhaps because we know how those lines are but I’d want to see
those to be minor excursions. I mean that’s just the way I look at them because I’m trying to
protect Lake Harrison.
Aanenson: So Mr. Chair I think.
McGonagill: I think that’s enough said.
Aanenson: I think we’ve gathered quite a bit of your feelings. I don’t think you want to pre-
judge but I think you’ve given them direction of what you’d like to see if that makes sense so
you can either like I say make a motion to table if they’re willing to accept that and I’m not sure
we’ve got for the.
Walters: The motion I have is a motion for denial.
Aanenson: No I’m asking about the 120 days.
Walters: Oh apologies. I believe the 60 day ticks in just after the October 26th date so we’d need
that waived or we could take our executive 60 day extension.
Aanenson: Yeah or we could just have them write something out right now which would be my
preference if I can grab a piece of paper. If they wanted to do that that’s one option. And then I
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think what you could say, based on the input that was given tonight as part of the testimony, if
you were to table. I’m not trying to, I’m just, if you were to recommend tabling it then that
would be kind of the information that you provided tonight because we do have verbatim
Minutes then we would use that as the direction to work with the applicant. And you know
where it falls on that line you can judge that but I think you’ve given them direction on what
you’re thinking.
Weick: And then the other option is obviously to vote on, or to have a motion.
Aanenson: That’s correct. You can ask for that too.
Weick: And then, and depending on how that came out then the applicant could, they could
certainly refile?
Aanenson: Yeah but.
Walters: Yes they could reapply…
Weick: What’s the difference between that and a tabling?
Aanenson: Because then they have to reapply.
Weick: And that costs. There’s fees associated.
Aanenson: Correct, correct and so if you feel like there’s room to move on both sides then it
probably would be you know, it would be okay to table it. Again if that’s what you’re thinking.
McGonagill: Well Kate I think it’s, if the applicant’s willing to do it I think it’s a good idea
because I think we have enough of a voted understanding among us that we would probably deny
the variances just the way they’re written by staff. At least I think that’s the, I don’t want to
speak for the rest of the commissioners but it seems to be strongly to that, particularly on the
accessory structure and some of the other stuff. And I think that if they were to table it and work
very closely with staff to come up with a solution so they could use that property and come back
to us I think it would be, that would be welcomed by the commission. Would you agree Mr.
Chairman?
Weick: I think so and I just want to, just be clear that to me it didn’t feel like we had, when we
talk about where the house could be in relationship to the setbacks I don’t think there was a
unanimous opinion about you know how, what type of encroachment if any is acceptable on
behalf of the, even the commissioners so I just wanted to be clear on that, that we aren’t…
McGonagill: That is a good point Mr. Chairman.
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Aanenson: That’s why I was trying to say not to prejudge it too far because I think they’re going
go through it and working with us to say you know it may have to go here but for the following
reasons so we want to give that opportunity to evaluate that.
Weick: Just to be very blunt there were some commissioners who felt okay with some
encroachment and there were some commissioners who did not feel okay with encroachment.
Aanenson: Correct.
Weick: And so I don’t want to give you the impression that you know, if you build it to a certain
point it’s, yeah because I don’t feel like, and that’s why I’m struggling with this because there
wasn’t agreement amongst us on that.
Aanenson: Right. That’s why I’m, I think they alluded to the possibility of tabling it so I’m
saying that is an option so that’s why I’m saying it’s up to them if they wanted to take the
motion. Whatever you choose tonight and go forward or if they want to take their time and table
it, I’m just saying that’s an option you could offer up.
Weick: And I mean have you had a moment to think about it?
Peter Eskuche: Yeah I think speaking for the applicant we would prefer to certainly be working
with the City and if we could be tabled I think you know in good faith we really do want to
protect the property so.
Weick: Okay.
McGonagill: And Mr. Chairman I think you summarize it being…
Weick: So we do need a motion then and I don’t know if we want to get, do we need something
in writing? Okay. And it will just, oh for sure.
McGonagill: So should we go on with the rest of the business and then…
Walters: This item needs to be resolved.
Weick: Yeah we need to resolve it before we go forward. And so what’s happening right now, I
know you can’t see or hear, there you go. We’re just talking about the conditions of the length
of days to table the item before it needs to be brought back in front of the commission. So
they’re going to sign that and then we’ll have that in writing and then I think we will need a
motion.
Walters: You will need a, yeah you would move to table Planning Case 2020-20 to be resumed
within and then I think Kate will have the timeline for you to use in one second.
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Aanenson: It would be 90 days.
Walters: Yep so the motion the motion would be moving to table Planning Case 2020-20 to be
heard again within 90 days.
McGonagill: Does that give the applicant enough time to do what they need to do MacKenzie?
Walters: They have consented to the 90 days so.
McGonagill: Sounds good.
Weick: We do have that in writing Commissioner McGonagill. It’s signed. So I would accept a
motion.
Noyes: I will propose the motion that we table Case 2020-20 for 90 days.
Aanenson: I would also say and direct the applicant to work with the staff based on the
comments that was given. Friendly amendment.
Noyes: And direct the applicant to work with the staff based on the comments that have been
provided.
Weick: Thank you Commissioner Noyes. We have a valid motion. Do we have a second?
Randall: Second.
Weick: We have a second from Commissioner Randall. I will pause. Anyone who would like
to make final comment on this item. Again I think a special thank you to MacKenzie and to Kate
for helping us through this one. We will take a vote now. We’ll do a roll call vote I’m sorry. I
was, I’ve been away for a little bit. So we do a roll call vote.
Noyes moved, Randall seconded that the Planning Commission table Planning Case 2020-
20 for 90 days and direct the applicant to work with city staff based on the comments
provided. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
Weick: So the motion to table this item for 90 days passes unanimously 5 to 0. Thank you.
Thank you.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Commissioner Noyes noted the verbatim and summary
Minutes of the Planning Commission meeting dated September 15, 2020 as presented.
ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS.
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Weick: And do we have any City Council updates?
Aanenson: Yes we do Chairman. Yes so on Monday, September 14th the Bluff s at Lake Lucy,
the final plat was approved. So you see the preliminary plat so just to kind of refresh everybody.
The first three phases of The Park were being developed by Lennar. They had the option on the
upper portion and that property was bought by Gonyea Homes from the development. More than
likely it will be their homes but it could be some others too so those were the 15,000 square foot
lots and there is I want to say 32 just off my head. And those, working right now to get the
grading going on those lots and…were out staking for the tree preservation area and I know Jill
be walking it this week and they’ll have a precon maybe next working to get watershed approval.
They’ve been to watershed 3 times and the County land records had their plat permit but they’re
ready to go. And then there was, I think we talked about the Highover one was tabled. The
other Highover one with the grading so they have…with MacKenzie on that. They do have a
permit in.
Walters: It is currently being reviewed for the engineers. By the engineering department to
determine whether or not it would address the drainage issues or not.
Aanenson: And then the Bluff Creek Overlay District boundary line was approved by the City
Council. And then on September 28th they did the code amendments that you saw or had the
public hearings for. The mylar requirement, the IOP codification and then there was a partial
release of Development Contract for Chan East Business Park. I also would note to go through
the next, we had two items that were, one was tabled so that was, and one was withdrawn
completely so the one on Dakota will not go forward. The one on, it was an amendment to the
zoning district to allow for auto repair. Sharmeen worked really hard on that. It’s a very busy
intersection. People coming through so we had some concerns. I really kind of recommended
tabling. The applicant also agreed to table that too. We just want to work through some issues
so everybody puts their best foot forward on that project so you may see that. I’m not sure how
quickly they’ll turn it around but we do have some other things in the on deck circle and we do
have a 3 lot subdivision that will be on your, on Frontier Trail and that will be on your agenda
for the 20th. So if the Crossroads Auto comes back, and I’m not sure this one can turn around
that quickly either to put this back on, that we just saw tonight so we do have a couple other
things that are kind of floating out there. We just have, there’s no meeting on the 3rd so we really
just have two more meetings. Or excuse me, three more meetings left so I know Matt has got a
couple code amendments. I’d say significant ones for proposed storm water management in
Chapters 18 and 20 that are, those are the ones that go before the Planning Commission. Those
are the subdivision and zoning ordinance. We do have a subdivision potentially for Yosemite.
That is Mr. Ashfeld who was here before so I think he will be submitting an application for that
too. There’s a couple other things that are floating out there but are not always coming together.
And then just on a side note we are busy doing roofing permits so we think we’ve roofed, I think
MacKenzie’s giving decks and fences to everybody else that didn’t get a roof so we’ve seen a lot
of permits this year. So we’ve also had a couple people that came through that did lot splits that
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you may have seen and some of those people have chosen not to go forward. There’s a huge
lumber issue right now so prices are kind of jumping up and kind of hard to get supplies and so
some people are just kind of going to wait it out maybe so. So that is all I had Chair. If you had
anything else for staff?
Weick: You know what anyone on the commission? Hearing none I would accept a motion to
adjourn.
Randall moved, McGonagill seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in favor and the
motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0. The Planning Commission meeting was
adjourned at 8:15 p.m.
Submitted by Kate Aanenson
Community Development Director
Prepared by Nann Opheim
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
REPORT
Tuesday, October 20, 2020
Subject City Council Action Update
Section ADMINISTRATIVE
PRESENTATIONS
Item No: E.1.
Prepared By Jean Steckling, Senior Admin. Support
Specialist
File No:
ATTACHMENTS:
City Council Action Update
City Council Action Update
MONDAY, OCTOBER 12, 2020
Chanhassen Apartments TIF Discussion – Work Session Discussion; Developer to proceed through
PUD Amendment
Approve Code Amendment to Permit the Construction of Certain Structures on Outlots – Approved
Approve Code Amendment Requiring Zoning Permits for all Structures that Do Not Require
Building Permits – Tabled
Approve Development Contract for Grading Permit for The Bluffs at Lake Lucy – Approved with
condition of no work on Saturdays on the north end of project
Minutes for these meetings can be viewed and downloaded from the city’s website at
www.ci.chanhassen.mn.us, and click on “Agendas and Minutes” from the left-side links.
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