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SUM PRC 2005 08 23 CHANHASSEN PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING AUGUST 23, 2005 Acting Chair Spizale called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.. MEMBERS PRESENT: Jack Spizale, Tom Kelly, Kevin Dillon, and Paula Atkins MEMBERS ABSENT: Glenn Stolar, Steve Scharfenberg and Ann Murphy STAFF PRESENT: Todd Hoffman, Park and Rec Director and Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation Superintendent APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Spizale: Does anybody have anything to add or delete? Hoffman: I do not. Somebody going to talk about the Miracles Race? Kelly: Sure, I can talk about it. Hoffman: Okay. Briefly under commission member presentations. Miracle Kids Triathlon. Largest kids triathlon in the country this year, so that’s a. Dillon: What? Hoffman: Largest kids triathlon in the country this year. Kelly: I guess it was on the, I know we’ll get to it but I guess it was on the 10:00 news on Channel 11. Hoffman: Beautiful. Spizale: The other thing, I don’t know if we should go ahead with it or delete it is the discussion on the off leash dog park with so few of us being here and Ann not being here. Ann’s got a lot of information on it. Maybe I’ll suggest that we’ll delete that one if that’s okay with everybody. Hoffman: You bet. Spizale: I’d really, we really want to get going on it. We’ve got a lot of stuff on it. Can we do that next meeting? Hoffman: Yep. We’ll table it til September and you should also prepare the commission to talk th to the council at the next time, your September 12 joint meeting. Give you a chance to talk to them about you know your findings and what’s going on. New developments out at the regional Chanhassen Park and Rec Commission – August 23, 2005 park. Shorewood has come forward with a $10,000 donation. Their council and their Shorewood park foundation. Not their park commission but a park foundation. But those, between the City of Chan and Shorewood, the only two cities that have come to the table so my recommendation is again we increase our, giving a dedication to $30,000 and then just allow the county to move forward. Spizale: That’s one of the things Ann and I discussed and I know she sent an e-mail out. I didn’t get a chance to read it but that was one of our, since we talked about, but it’d be really nice. I know she’s really like to be here to talk about it too so. Hoffman: Yep, we’ll pick it up in September. Spizale: Okay, any public announcements? Hoffman: We should have a motion to adjust the agenda. Spizale: Oh, a motion to adjust the agenda. Hoffman: With the deletion of item 3. Spizale: Through the deletion of item 3. Dillon: I’ll second that. Spizale: I can’t make a. Kelly: So moved. Spizale: Okay, seconded. Kelly moved, Dillon seconded to approve the agenda amended to delete item 3, discussion of the off leash dog park, and adding under council presentations an update on the Miracles for Mitch Kids Triathlon. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0. PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS: None. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS: None. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:Dillon moved, Kelly seconded to approve the verbatim and summary minutes of the Park and Recreation Commission meeting dated July 26, 2005 as presented. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0. 2 Chanhassen Park and Rec Commission – August 23, 2005 2006 PARK & TRAIL ACQUISITION AND DEVELOPMENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. Hoffman: Thank you Commissioner Spizale, members of the commission. This has been adjusted with the major adjusting being the first item on your old packet. We had a place holder in there for 2005 MUSA area land acquisition at $4 million dollars. At this time we’re recommending that we just, we don’t know what that acquisition is going to be. We don’t know how large it’s going to be. We don’t know if it’s going to be a dedication or purchase and so we’re active in that negotiation with the developer, the property owner and when that deal comes forward the commission will be made aware of it. The council will be made well aware of it and at that time we’ll talk about how we’re going to acquire the property. Is it going to be a dedication? Purchase? Density transfer? Just what is it going to be? So that has been removed. Some other significant changes. We split the athletic field lighting into 2 years. There was some talk about that at your last meeting so in 2007 we would light 2 additional fields and in 2008 we would like 2 fields and to make room for that adjustment we pushed out the Highway 101 north trail connection from Pleasant View to Town Line Road to 2008. That’s $114,000. Under this proposed capital improvement program, 2006 is an active year but when you consider that $540,000 of it is in that west water treatment plant park acquisition, which we have signed a purchased agreement on, the remainder of it goes downward significantly. You have some, still some fairly significant projects there. Highover trail. Athletic field improvements. Recreation center hockey boards. Lake Susan Park trails. Off leash dog area. That $35,000 is a typo. That should be 50. Kelly: For which one? Hoffman: Oh, Jerry didn’t get it changed? Is there two of them still on here? Kelly: No, I think the Lake Susan, I’m sorry the Lake Ann one seems to be gone. Hoffman: Yeah, it should say just off leash dog area. Not the city $50,000. I’ll adjust it from here. Rec Center trees. Oh yeah, there’s still a Lake Minnewashta off leash dog contribution so that goes away. And then some other projects with some trail projects. Park master plan updates. If you looked at 2007, major project is the Arboretum Business Park, Lot 12 trail. That’s the final section of trail going around the nature preserve and there is word on the street that that still, that’s the last lot in the Steiner development where Lifetime Fitness is and if there’s interest in that lot, so we think it’s going to develop probably in 2006 or 2007. The developer will build the trail but we have to pay for it as a section of comprehensive trail plan. It’s not fair to make them pay for that entire section so they will build it with their contractors but we will pay them and reimburse them for that and it’s estimated at $190,000. Dillon: So that would go from, near where that Holiday Inn is, and it would go south? Hoffman: Where the Holiday Inn is, there’s already a trail on, right adjacent to the road on the left hand side and that goes down to the intersection and when you get down to the intersection, that’s where the new section of trail would pick up. They go into those woods and then over to Trotters Ridge. Very nice section of trail. The nicest section of trail in that circle and then you’ll 3 Chanhassen Park and Rec Commission – August 23, 2005 be able to go over a mile in one loop. Some phase II playgrounds in 2007. Sugarbush Park. Roundhouse and Power Hill. All of those containers are currently in place. The size in preparation for the second phase and to be quite frank, the first phase is getting old. We don’t want to let it get too old and, before we would put a phase II in there so it’s about time. And then you move forward. If you look at the total, currently evenly taxed over 2007, 08, 09 and 10 and obviously there’ll be some adjustments as we move forward and some priorities come forward and are pushed back, but with the exception of the anomaly in 2006 with the land acquisition. All of these CFU’s are fairly uniformed. Right around $300,000 to $400,000. It’s recommended that the commission recommend that City Council approve the 2006-2010 CIP as presented and send it up to council. Spizale: I’ll open it up for discussion. Kevin. Dillon: Well I kind of in line with the discussion we had last time about some themes starting to emerge here, and I see the trail thing emerging. Very strongly. I think that’s a good thing. You know I personally take advantage of that and I see a lot of other people doing the same thing and I think that that’s going to continue to add recreational and overall value to our community. So I’m pretty excited seeing all that stuff in there. The, and all the other, you know suggested things. I mean you know we’ve talked about and beaten up pretty good. I mean they all seem to make good sense. I mean it seems like a very pragmatic approach, properly prioritized. Spizale: Okay, Tom. Kelly: I’ve got a couple questions I just want to make, the athletic field improvements. That does include dugouts? And the recreation center hockey boards, that includes removing that surface that’s cracking? Hoffman: Correct. Kelly: I just wanted, I thought that but I just wanted to make sure. I think that was all. Spizale: Paula. Atkins: Is there a plan for the performance stage in City Center Park? Hoffman: You know where the stage has been going in front of the tiered walls? Atkins: (Yes). Hoffman: Basically it would be some sort of a hard surface. Probably a two tiered concrete so you have a little step and then coming up onto a concrete performing stage. And then with some shade, probably from the canopies that can be removed in the winter so you would have a 3 or 4 pole system with some shade, something that can go up for performances and come down in the winter. Atkins: It’s permanent? The performance area. 4 Chanhassen Park and Rec Commission – August 23, 2005 Hoffman: Yes. Atkins: Okay. I’m wondering, when we got the $20,000 contribution to Lake Minnewashta, which we are talking about raising to $30,000 but then there’s $50,000 in the off leash dog area. Hoffman: All one pool of money. So the commission talked about last time on just making an off leash dog area allocation of $50,000. If you recommend 30 of that go to the County and the council supports that, then 30 of the 50 will go to the County. Atkins: Okay, I see. The Bandimere Heights, that’s a half court basketball court. Was that a conversion from something that is now into something else? Hoffman: When we removed their playground, the commission talked about we should put something back in that park. Atkins: That’s right. And I also remember the meeting before last there was some talk about improvements to the park down by the old village hall and the old church and it’s not anywhere on here so I’m just wondering if that’s just been. Hoffman: It’s in this year’s budget. Atkins: Is it? Hoffman: So October we’ll be putting pavers in. Same pavers that are here at City Center Park and planting 4 new trees in the center of the park and then also replicating the seating and the furniture that’s in this park down in that park so it will be very nice. $50,000 improvement. Atkins: Great. Makes me happy. Okay. Spizale: I agree with Kevin. I think we’ve got a nice theme going. I’m happy to see the money going to the off leash dog areas. I’ve got one question doesn’t exactly pertain to this but this Sugarbush Park. I notice where they did all the work by that well and stuff. Everything’s dying. Are they going to replace that or is that like done for? Hoffman: No, I hope they’ll replace the plantings. Yeah, they’ve got irrigation out there but they got it too late so. Spizale: Oh, okay. Other than that I think it looks great. Do we have a motion? Dillon: I move to support the capital expenditure plans put forth by the staff for 2006 to 10. Spizale: Do I have a second? Kelly: I second. 5 Chanhassen Park and Rec Commission – August 23, 2005 Dillon moved, Kelly seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend the City Council approve the 2006-2010 Park & Trail Acquisition and Development CIP as presented. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0. Hoffman: When you get on in 2009 and 2010, there are some things in there that will certainly come up for discussion again. I’m not sure Roundhouse Park is ready for hockey lights but it’s on the master plan and when Roundhouse was developed that’s what the neighborhood expected. We want hockey. We want tennis and lights come along with those facilities. Again I’m not quite sure that the neighborhood is going to be ready for them. Then there’s also an item you’ll note in 2010 which is the City Center Park warming house and City Center Park continues to evolve and so that item has been pushed out year after year and we just want to keep it there as a place holder because it is a part of our master plan for this park and, but in the future it may not be so it’s best not to build it if you’re going to change your master plan idea so we just keep it there as a place holder. Atkins: And Parkview picnic shelter, is that the existing one? Hoffman: No. Atkins: That’s the one you want to put up by the ballfield? Yeah, I’d like to see that possibly moved up a little bit maybe. Hoffman: Yeah, we have a shortage of group picnic sites and that upper parking lot, you know where you drive in and you go, Ballfield No. 3 there’s a lot of parking lots just across the road. It arrives for a nice access to that park/picnic area but we need just a standard park shelter building with a concrete slab and a roof over it. Spizale: Okay, any new business? It looks like there’s none. DAVE HUFFMAN MEMORIAL 5K RACE REPORT. Ruegemer: Thank you Commissioner Spizale. Just wanted to update the commission on the progress of the Huffman Race. We did have another meeting tonight for the race itself. Everything seems to be kind of falling into place. There seems to be a lot of excitement about the new route itself. Kelly: You’re not running it. Ruegemer: Yeah… Hoffman: Have you run it? Atkins: We run it all the time. We always have so. Ruegemer: So I imagine that the last, the last mile is going to be the toughest, coming up, off the hill from Big Horn but, so I’m sure our times will fluctuate from last year so we probably 6 Chanhassen Park and Rec Commission – August 23, 2005 wouldn’t have any state records this year per age group, but the course is certified now. We got together with Rick Recker last week. Our race director to go through. He came in and calibrated the route itself. We’ll be starting up kind of north of the tennis courts, up kind of by Ballfields 3 and 4. Up in there. We had to do that, push that kind of to the north to accommodate the extra distance that we needed to make up for. So we are exactly 3.1 miles. We’ll be starting up in there. Running across the grassy area coming south to kind of the city hall, kind of service road. Kind of going through just on the north side of city hall. Then we’ll be hooking onto Market Boulevard at that point. Going around Paula’s house and hooking up to Frontier Trail again off th of West 77 Street. So we’ll have all the mile markers are already marked. We talked to the Boy Scouts about doing split time stuff again and that sort of thing at that point. Boy Scouts will be staffing the route itself again for that so we’re pretty excited for the big finish coming down Kerber Boulevard. We’re going to stay off the main road and on the trail itself for that so I think this is really going to be providing us with a safer course this year. We’re not really impacting a lot of major roads such as Powers Boulevard, crossing over that. We’re minimizing the closures downtown with that so we’ll get through town quick and get back through the neighborhoods and haven’t heard any opposition at all from the neighbors. I think they’re pretty excited. It’s really, our Race Director loved the course. It’s really kind of picturesque and kind of nestled back in the neighborhood so a lot of that information is out there right now. People are signing up for it. The shirt’s been ordered already at this point. Tents and that. Ken Garvin and I who are a member of the parade committee kind of looked at logistics the other day. Where the tent and stuff is going to go. We’re going to end up right about where the tennis, or excuse me, the hockey rinks are. We’re going to end up right at that intersection where the finish line is so if the commission is interested, Paula if you and Jack are running, you can, all the mile markers are marked and the starting and finish lines are marked in orange paint. So you kind of get a feel for where everything is going to be. Kelly: Did you also mark it on the trail like every half mile? I was riding that trail, I saw some markings every half or quarter mile. Is that? Ruegemer: Those, that isn’t part of our race. I know which ones you’re talking about. I’m not sure if there’s another organization out there. Atkins: Yeah, it’s called Jack Atkins. Ruegemer: Okay. Mystery solved. And that’s in kind of white or silver paint. Hoffman: We’ll have a police officer. th Dillon: Is it the 10? Ruegemer: Come again? th Dillon: The 9? th Hoffman: September 10. 7 Chanhassen Park and Rec Commission – August 23, 2005 th Ruegemer: September 10, yeah. 9:00 start. Kelly: Where’s the water stop? Is there going to be a water stop? Ruegemer: The water stop is going to be kind of that half way point which is right by ex- Councilman Berquist’s house. Right by the Sunrise Hills beachlot. That’s on Frontier Trail. On your right, about in that area, and I believe M&I Bank is going to be staffing those water stops for that, on the course itself and also at the finish line. Houlihan’s will be involved again with supplying the food at the end. The bananas. You know the bagels, that sort of thing. The juice. So really everything is really kind of falling into place with everything. Cones have been ordered for all the signs. You can eliminate you know a lot of the big 4 foot signs. You know be prepared to stop so we can save a little money that way. We’re saving on busing costs this year. I think a lot of people are excited about the starting and finishing at the same area. And just generally. I know as a runner, but from a logistics standpoint, I think the course will be a real nice treat for us. Kelly : The first half is shade, I mean the first half being shade almost going down Frontier. I think it will be good. Ruegemer: Yeah. Kelly: I’m sorry, going up Frontier. Did I say down? I meant up. Ruegemer: Yeah. Frontier Trail. I’ll send out letters again a week to 10 days again to the adjacent property owners along the route just to remind them again that the race is going to be th coming up September 10. We won’t close any streets but please be careful. Watch out for runners. Vikings cheerleaders are going to be involved again this year with the race. Had a lot of people kind of step up and volunteer. Chan Fitness is looking to volunteer. Holy Family School is looking to volunteer as well so I think we’re going to be properly staffed for that so. It will be a little bit different being at a different location for the sixth event here but I think it will work out very good. Kathy Huffman is coming back again this year with her son Jack. Their daughter Jessica is going to the school at the University of Minnesota now so she’ll be around again. Dave’s mom and sister are flying up from Texas for the event this year so that will be their first time up so they’re excited for that. And so it’s kind of falling into place. We’re going to be meeting every Tuesday from now until the race. That kind of fits in so it really is on track. We’ll get some more people signed up for it, which is not typical. I think there’s only like 30 to 50 or something signed up right now so, which is kind of the same pattern as previous years so. Hoffman: Get your…card in the mail? Atkins: Today got it. Kelly: Any discussion with Lifetime? I know they’re in the midst of forming a running club over there. 8 Chanhassen Park and Rec Commission – August 23, 2005 Ruegemer: Yeah, we have had contact with Lifetime but they’ve got to get back to us on that. With that so we kind of made that initial contact with them. See if they wanted to you know form a run club and then have this kind of be the carrot to dangle in front of people to run at the end but with it being a new facility I think they’re just trying to get their feet wet and. Kelly: Yeah. I know right now their run club is specifically geared towards Twin Cities Marathon and they’re hoping I think in mid August to start more of a recreational run club. I talked to the guy a couple times on the phone and he said right now the people that are showing up Monday’s and Wednesday’s, they’re going out on 8 mile runs. They’re running hills. They’re training for the Twin Cities Marathon. Ruegemer: Sure. I forgot to mention the kids race. The kids race is going to happen again. They are going to finish at the same finish line, but they’ll, Howard Anderson’s going to be working on that event and he’ll be kind of starting probably roughly probably at that intersection around the trail to the west and then either loop around the ballfield to the north or go up the sidewalk and head north and come back into the park. And they’ll probably stay on hard surface the whole time and kind of he’s going to probably mark that out here by the next week or so. And Culver’s is, Culver’s sponsoring the event so they’ll be giving away water bottles and I think free custard to all the kids at that event. Kelly: Kid Clips decided they weren’t going to, I know you had some. Ruegemer: We decided to pursue another sponsor for that event. Spizale: Any other comments from anybody? Well it looks like you’ve done a great job already on this Jerry. I’ve got one idea. Do they take pictures when people finish? Ruegemer: We have, Karen Engelhardt, our office manager has taken digital pictures and that. Spizale: I know as a money generator at Gramma’s, I don’t know if they still do, they used to take pictures at the finish and just everybody bought a picture of themselves finishing the race. That might be something, and maybe it’s too late but it might be something to bring up. I know it generated a lot of money for Gramma’s and people loved the pictures. Hoffman: I think the sales point between a marathon and a 5K is the difference. You run a marathon, a lot of them are like yeah. A 5K is you know. Ruegemer: You just get warmed up but. Hoffman: Yeah, have you seen… FALL RECREATION PROGRAM REPORT. Ruegemer: Thanks again. Just wanted to let everybody know what’s kind of happening for the fall. Corey’s been real busy putting together some fall programs. Certainly the highlight is the Halloween party. Barnyard Boogie is coming up here, and that’s a joint program between the 9 Chanhassen Park and Rec Commission – August 23, 2005 City of Chaska Park and Rec Department and the City of Chanhassen with that so we’ve got a lot of activity kind of coming up for that. A lot of kind of seasonal, sense of holiday types of classes so there’s a lot going on for preschool, youth and adults activities throughout the fall. Spizale: Any comments? Looks like a lot of stuff. COMMISSION MEMBER COMMITTEE REPORTS. None. COMMISSION MEMBER PRESENTATIONS: Kelly: I can talk a little bit about the Miracles of Mitch Triathlon. I wasn’t organizing. I was just there as a participant but, well not me. My son but it was. I thought it was a fantastic event. They probably had close to 800. I’m not too sure if they hit 800 or not but I know they had at least 717 so I don’t know if they hit, I don’t know if you know if they hit 800. Hoffman: They haven’t posted it yet, no. Ruegemer: I haven’t heard about it. I heard it was about 8. Kelly: I thought it was a well run event. I don’t know if I heard any negative comments. The only negative comment I heard, and I guess I personally saw about 4 kids getting somewhat hurt on the obstacle course inflatable because as they came down that slide they flew right off and landed square on their back. There was, I know of at least 4 kids that were hurt. Yeah hurt and there was no adult supervision there so my only suggestion to, once they open that, they can’t somehow make that more gradual slide. Have an adult there to kind of watch these kids come down because I saw mothers and fathers trying to move their, trying to get their kids walking again so that was the only negative I saw from the whole thing. Hoffman: That’s a negative. Kelly: So, but besides that, I don’t know if you heard any comments. Hoffman: A few cars that didn’t get out of the park because the road was closed so they’re going to manage that next year differently. Kelly: Okay. Was there any talk about having two different transitions, because I know what seems to happen is you get the younger kids have been hanging around there for a while. They or their parents want to leave but the older kids, and there was a lot of them of course that are out on the course and they won’t let the younger kids come and get their bikes. Has there been any talk about having two different transition areas so some of the younger kids can actually leave in a couple hours as opposed to waiting for the complete? Hoffman: I don’t know if they talked about but. Ruegemer: They can’t leave anyway so. 10 Chanhassen Park and Rec Commission – August 23, 2005 Kelly: Oh, because of the park. Ruegemer: They can’t get out of the park. Hoffman: Next year they think their numbers will go back down. I’m not sure that they will yet because they’re going to do one or two additional races in the metro. So there may be some changes but it is, those kids need to, the older kids wait a long time to get in the water and their race is longer. Kids are done. I mean those kids done long before everybody was in the water. They were looking, they group back up with their parents and they’re like now what? Kelly: Yeah. Dillon: How many all competed all together? Hoffman: 800. Kelly: The trail was in great shape. I mean there wasn’t any debris on the trail. I thought it was a really well run event. It was a lot of fun. All the kids were pretty happy. Hoffman: They were happy. Beautiful day. Gorgeous set up. They used everything in the park. They used the beach. The entrance road for the biking and then the trail going to Greenwood Shores for the run. And so it’s just that biking that shuts down the road since there is only one road in and out. You cannot get motor vehicle traffic in and out and there’s really no other good way to do it. Kelly: Yeah. Spizale: …very well run. Kids had a great time. Yeah, it was electric. Alright. Any other presentations? No? ADMINISTRATIVE PACKET. Spizale: Did we get one Todd? Hoffman: No, there’s none. Kelly: Before we adjourn can I ask a couple questions? One was about the slide at Meadow Green. I know you were going to send someone to look at it. Did they see that bubble? Hoffman: Yes. Kelly: And that’s not, that’s a defect in the slide? Hoffman: Correct. The side that was burned has been replaced. The other one, the parts have been ordered. It’s under warranty and they’ll replace the parts that bubbled. 11 Chanhassen Park and Rec Commission – August 23, 2005 Kelly; Okay. It didn’t look like that was damage caused by anyone. It looked like maybe just the sun beating on it for all summer long. Hoffman: Defective sections. Kelly: Okay. The other question I had was about the corner of the trail on the corner of 101 and Pioneer where they stripe private trail in widening 101 as a plan to replace that trail once 101 gets widened. Hoffman: Yes, they’ll put it back in. None of the trails will go away but something, so you’re aware of in the future is, where 101 comes down and meets Pioneer we have a lot of comments from the neighborhood to the north. So this is going to Eden Prairie on Pioneer. This is going to Chaska and going to Shakopee. And then coming back into Chanhassen. And they’re…section right here so when they’re done with construction they’ll repair that section so it’s complete. Nothing has changed there. The trail was far enough off the right-of-way that it didn’t get th destroyed. It didn’t have to be removed or replaced, but this 96 Street up here, they would like th to get to this trail and when they come off of 96 Street they hit a big embankment. Most of them come down about a quarter of a block and they run across the street. The highway to get to the trail. 101 will be upgraded and widened all the way from 212 to the Scott County border at some point in the future. Probably within the next 5 years, and when that happens we’ll build a section of trail on their side of the road. So there will be a trail from their street down to this corner where they can cross a lit intersection. So we know that’s in the plan but that won’t be done until this road is widened and straightened. Kelly: Okay. And have we heard anything about the Halla, is it a golf course? Is that going to be? Hoffman: I haven’t heard that it’s opened yet. Kelly: No it’s not and I was just wondering if it was going to be open in 2005 or not. Ruegemer: It must be next year. Kelly: Yeah, they have a little more to do. Alright, that’s all. Those are just some questions I had. Spizale: Anybody else have any questions? Dillon: Yeah. We live right off the Lake Lucy Road and they put new curbs on that and they’re putting a bike trail along the north side. So is that part of the capital improvement plan going back a few years or is that out of a different budget altogether? Hoffman: Different budget. It’s out of the street improvements so it’s, I always say the best time to build a trail is with a road project because you’re right there building roads so you might as well add on the trail. And Lake Lucy Road was one of the first sections of road that was upgraded when trails were just coming into vogue and so everybody said we’ve got to build a 12 Chanhassen Park and Rec Commission – August 23, 2005 trail on Lake Lucy. We’re going to upgrade this road and the debate went should we build it off street, on street, off street, and it almost was built off street. Would have been one of the first ones in the city but they decided no. They’re going to put it on street and just paint a white line. People hated it. They hated that white line for a trail and so it actually was a very good thing because every other trail after that we built with a road was off street. Now we’re finally getting back to upgrading Lake Lucy and they’re saying now the trail is going to go off street. We’re still meeting the same difficulties that we would have 15 or 18 years ago. It’s difficult to put a trail off street there, and the contract is scheduled to be done at the end of the month. We don’t think they’re going to make it and starting September 1 they’ll have a $700 per day liquidated damages charge on that contract so they’ll try to get it done but they’re behind schedule. Dillon: Why are they behind? Hoffman: Just not performing. Spizale: Any other questions? Kelly: Any updates on hiring a new Rec Center? Hoffman: We’re in the second round of interviews and so we’re completing those this week and we’re closed now. They closed last Saturday. They close through the Tuesday of opening of thththth school. When we do open back up? On the 5 or 6. 6. September 6. Tuesday. Dillon: It’s a little off the subject but it will just be interesting to see the impact that the Lifetime athletic club has on, not just our rec center but the entire community. It’s you know, it’s going to really kind of change the face of that side of the area I think. It’s gone from nothing to like pretty hopping area. Hoffman: It’s a significant facility. My first impression is we can live off of their table scrapes. So they’re such a large facility that there will be people leaving there on a monthly basis and the rec center is a much, much different operation than Lifetime Fitness. There’s going to be customers come in all different cross sections and we’re quite confident that there’s enough that would not want anything to do with a Lifetime Fitness but would feel very comfortable at a Chan Rec Center that will continue to be our customer. And there will be some people that quit Lifetime Fitness. Just don’t want to pay anymore or don’t like it and might find the recreation center a little more quiet so. We’re confident we’ll still maintain our ability to, the revenues at the rec center are $175,000 on an annual basis. That might pay for the pop fund at Lifetime and it costs us a quarter of a million dollars to keep…open so a very modest facility. Spizale: Anything else? Well we have time to talk about your boat Jerry. Can I have a motion to adjourn? Dillon moved, Atkins seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in favor and the motion carried. The Park and Recreation Commission meeting was adjourned. Submitted by Todd Hoffman, Park and Rec Director Prepared by Nann Opheim 13