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1978 05 10 REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HAY 10, 1978 -- Roman Roos called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. with the following members present: Les Bridger, Dick Matthews, Hud Hollenback, and Walter Thompson. Jerry Neher came late. Mal MacAlpine was absent. AGENDA: Dick Matthews moved to table items 15 - 19 on the May 10, 1978, Planning Commission agenda to the May 24th meeting. Motion seconded by Les Bridger and unanimously approved. MINUTES: Les Bridger moved to accept the April 26, 1978, Planning Commission minutes as presented. Motion seconded by Hud Hollenback and unanimously approved. Hud Hollenback moved to note the May 1, 1978, City Council minutes. Motion seconded by Dick Matthews and unanimously approved. PUBLIC HEARING REZONING AND SUBDIVISION MINNEWASHTA GREEK FrRST ADDITION e The Chairman called the hearing to order at 7:50 p.m. with the following interested persons present: John Merz, 3900 Lone Cedar Circle Donn Bros, 7209: Heat'herton Circle, Edina Keith Anderson, 3911 Leslee Curve Mrs. Lee Anderson, 6651 Minnewashta Parkway' Bob Ritter Russell Larson Bill Brezinsky Bob Waibel read the official notice as published in the Carver County Herald. - The purpose of this hearing is to consider rezoning 23.8 acres located in the southeast quadrant of County Road 15 and State Highway 7 from R-lA to P-l and subdivide the property into 36 residential lots. The developer has complied with the contingencies setforth by the Planning Commission at its April 12 meeting. The City Engineer has reviewed the preliminary street, drainage, sanitary sewer, and water plans and find them in conformance with City Standards except that all watermain must have a minimum cover of seven feet (six feet or less is shown on the plans). The Engineer, in his report of May 4th, calls attention to things the developer should be aware of and outlines what the procedure will be from now on. Mr. Ritter explained they propose to divide the property into 36 lots with six of these proposed for duplexes. John Merz - I see that you, have got some lake access here. I would like to know if it is proposed for boat dockage and who is to maintain this? Bob Ritter - At this time that outlot which is already a platted lot, is not being considered as part of this proposal. At a future date that will be proposed as an outlot with access for the people living in this development. As far what the requirements are going to be, I really can't comment on that because I am not real sure,. As far as being a boat docking place I can tell you no because it's not Planning Connnission Meeting May 10, 1978 -'2- big enough to dock 36 boats or whatever. Nqr deep enough. There will be a homeowners association in c~arge of the outlot. '_ Roman Roos - Bob, you will have covenants on this homeo~ers association and this will be one of the areas that you will be covering in the covenants. I Bob Ritter - Yes. I Hud Hollenback - Wouldn't you need those covenants draft~,d before you sold the first lot? Russell Larson - ~es, we would require an inspection or ~eview of whatever covenants and restrictions they are goi~g to put on there., We require a title examination ~nd if there is to be a homeowners association we wa~t to look at the enabling charter and its by-laws. " would like to see the covenants at this point, setfor h now exactly what they intend to do or plan to do wi h respect to that outlot because that is going to ho lefully guide you people and the Council in making an lultimate determination. I I I Keith Anderson - What price category of home are you con~emplating? Bob Ritter - I don't know if I can quote the price category but one of things in the covenants will bea minimum o:fla 1,000 square feet on one floor fora rambler. If it's a 'Itwo story or a split it wia,l be 800 square feet. ' " Keith Anderson - That's what I was getting at because we Ihave minimums and I was wondering what yours were. ',' , ! Donn Bros - Is all the water from this plat to Highway 7 land none of 4It it onto County Road IS? i Bob Ritter - Surface water will drain toward Highway 7 o~ into the marsh to the north. None will drain toward Count~ Road 15. Bill Brezinsky - That was one of our requirements. ! , I Hud Hollenback moved to close the public hearing. Motior1. seconded by Walter Thompson and unanimously approved. Hearing closeq at 8:15 p.m. I REZONING AND SUBDIVISION - MINNEWASHTA CREEK FIRST ADUlT ON: Jerry Neher came at : p.m. Hu Ho en ac move to reconnnen t e ouncil rezone Outlot A, Minnewashta Creek First Addition from R-lA to ,-I. Motion seconded by Walter Thompson and unanimously approved. I I I I Dick 'Matthews moved to reconnnend the Council approve theJpreliminary development plans for Minnewashta Creek First Addition a submitted and identified as Exhibit 1 dated May 10, 1978, conditio~ed upon the elevation of the watermain, developer pre-sent street sec~ions and ~ubmission of the developer's covenants or development pans which will ~nclude the proposed use and management of Outlot B. ' Mo ion seconded by Les Bridger and unanimously approved. rUBLIC HEARING SUBDIVISION - JAMES MC CLEARY The Chatrman c'alledthe public hearing to order at 8:30 p.m. with the e following interested persons present: John Merz, 3900 Lone Cedar Circle Fred J. Strohl, 322 Heather Lane, Lone Lake Bob Bothe, 111 Grand Ave., Wayzata e Planning Connnission Meeting May 10, 1978 Al Klingelhutz, 8601 Great Plains Blvd. David Tester, 3897 Lone Cedar Lane Bernard Schneider Russell Larson Bill Brezinsky Bob Waibel read the official notice as published in the Carver County Herald. -3- e John Merz ... My property abuts the'Outlot A. The idea of dockage there is almost impossible for a couple of reasons. The adjoining Outlot A down below is about a 50 foot beach for the people in Trolls-Glen and to put boat dockage onto that 20 foot lot would be impossible. That also brings up the question of mooring a boat out there. I think it also creates the same visual problem in that you have got the possibility of three boats at an average length of 16 feet taking_up, without any wind drift, to keep those boats in line with that piece of property I think is pretty much of an impossibility. What really bothered me the most about that is just strictly the boat dockage aspect of that outlot. Without that I am very happy with it. We see just three buildable lots at this time that are 1/3 ownership on that with no talk of multiple dwelling or more than three single family dwelling units. Am I correct in assuming that? Hud Hollenback - That's right. Fred Strohl - What is the status of the 50 feet in Trolls-Glen? I think the two covenants ought to be identical. Russell Larson - We can furnish you with a copy of their covenants. David Tester - I don't know if you have trees marked on the map but that's the highest property of the development and probably has the best trees on it. I am trying to figure out why the common property wouldn't be the best property where the road is now where you,wouldn't have to take all those trees out and do all that terracing down that steep bank to the lake. I also abu1tthe property. I see a wood chip thing and I didn't know whether that was going to be cleared and made a walkway. Fred Strohl - If they don't pave a trail and now it is just a;nature trail. a way down to the lake, that's leave it the way it is It's to give those people alL - Dick Matthews moved to close the public hearing. Motion seconded by Walter Thompson and unanimously approved. Hearing closed at 9:00 p.m. Planning Commission ~eeting ~ay 10, 1978 -4- SUBDIVISION .. JAMES MC CLE^g~; Dick Matthews moved to t~ble the public hearing discussion until May 24th at which time tie developer will submit alternative locations for the outlot, connnen s with respect~ to covenants, the purpose of the trail, and comply withections 7 ~ and 8 of the Subdivision Ordinance. Motion seconded by tes Bridger and unanimously approved. PUBLIC HEARING SUBDIVISION - SCHNEIDER AGENCY Roman Roos called the hearing to order at 9:30 p.m. with the following interested persons present: Charles Schneider, 680 West 78th Street Bernard Schneider, 680 West 78th Street Russell Larson Bill Brezinsky Bob Waibel read the official notice as published in the ~arver County Herald. The purpose of this hearing is to consider the conveyance of 48,993 square feet of land by metes and bounds to the State Ban~ of Chanhassen to allow for additional parking and for future expansion I of a drive-up lane. The City Attorney explained that the City Hall is a non"~onforming use as it was constructed prior to the enactment of the Zoning Ordinance. Dick Matthews moved to close the public hearing. Motion seconded by A Jerry Neher and unanimously approved. Hearing closed at 9 :45 p .m. ~ SUBDIVISION - SCHNEIDER AGENCY: The City Attorney state~ he felt the rezoning of City Hall is not related to the Schneidet Agency subdivision. I I Jerry Neher moved to recommend the Council approve the srlbdivision of 48,993 square feet of land by metes and bounds to the State Bank of Chanhassen. Motion seconded by Walter Thompson and ufanimously approved. PUBLIC HEARING SUBDIVISION - JOHN SCHEVENIUS Roman Roos called the hearing to order at,9:48 p.m. with the following interested persons present: John Schevenius Joseph Smith Russell Larson Bill Brezinsky The Assistant City Planner read the official notice as p~blished in the Carver County Herald. The purpose of this hearing is to consider subdivision of Lots 11, 12, e 13, 16, 17, 18, 54, 55, and 55, Pleasant View Addition into four lots. The proposal is to sell the easterly most 45 feet of L01. 17, 12, and 55, excepting the northern 140 feet of Lot 12, to the 0 er of Lots 18 and 56. The Council will deal with the question of the ewer and water assessments. . Planning Commission Meeting ~ay IO, 1978 -5- It Hud Hollenback moved to close the public hearing. Motion seconded by Walter Thompson and unanimously approved. Hearing closed at 10:02 p.m. SUBDIVISION -JOHN SCHEVENIUS: Mr. Schevenius was advised that the square footage of all the lots should be shown and that he comply with Section 7.02 of the Subdivision Ordinance. Dick Matthews moved to recommend the Council approve the subdivision request for John Schevenius contingent upon Section 7.02 of the Subdivision Ordinance and the square footage be shown. Motion seconded by Les Bridger and unanimously approved. PUBLIC HEARING PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN PRESS, INC. The Chairman called the hearing to order at 10:07 p.m. with the following interested persons present: Roger and Catherine Drewing r 1285 Park St., St. Paul Bernard Schneider, 680 West 78th Street Charles Schneider, 680 West 78th Street Doug Hansen, 1700l Stodola Road, Minnetonka Al Klingelhutz, 8601 Great Plains Blvd. Jerry Korsunsky Bill Brezinsky Russell Larson e The Assistant City Planner read the official notice as published in e the Carver County Herald. The purpose of this hearing is to consider preliminary development plans for the construction of a 55,760 square foot printing facility to be located on the north side of Highway 5 in Hennepin County. The Council has directed the City Engineer to conduct a frontage road and utilities feasibility study for an area north of Highway 5 including this property. This study will be completed by June 5th. The property is zonedP-4. Al Klingelhutz - As President of the Cha~ber of Commerce I think the plan looks very acceptable to the city and I would recommend that the Planning Commission recommend approval to the Council. Bernard Schneider - I think that this is the type of development that we certainly are looking forward to. There is apparently no outside storage. It's going to be a clean building, very pleasant to look at and we need a lot more like it. Dick Matthews moved to close the hearing. Motion seconded by Walter Thompson and unanimously approved. Hearing closed at 10:21 p.m. PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN - PRESS, INC:' Les Bridger'moved to recommend the Council approve the preliminary development plan as submitted by Press, Inc. and encourage the applicant to proceed with final development plans. Motion seconded by Dick Matthews and unanimously approved. Planning Connnission Meeting May 10, 1978 -6- SUBDIVISION - CLIFFORDJ,ACOBSON, CARVER "BEACH: Mr. Jacobson is proposing to subdivid~Lots '2569, South 81.19' of Lot 26~0 and South 82.82' of Lot 2571 and Lots 2578, 2579, 2580,2581, 2582,. 2572, 2573, 2574, 2575, 2576, 2577, and North 21' of Lots 2570 and 2571 into two .. single family residential building sites. ,. ~ Jerry Neher moved to hold a public hearing on the Jacobson subdivision on June 14, 1978, at 7:45 p.m. Motion seconded by Dick Matthews and unanimously approved. AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE 47 - NURSERIES IN R-lA DISTRICT: Les Bridger moved to hold a public hearing on June 14, 1978, at 8:15 'p.m. to consider amending the Zoning Ordinance to allow nurseries as a conditional use in the R-lA District. Motion seconded b~ Walter Thompson and unanimously approved. MOBIL SERVICE STATION - CONDITIONAL USE: Jerry Neher mo~ed to hold a public hearing on June 14, 1978, at 9:00 p.m. to consi<t~r the issuance of a conditional use permit for self-service ga~ pumps at the Mobil Service Station. Motion seconded by Hud Holleriback'a,nd unanimously approved. PUBLIC HEARING CONDITIONAL USE - NATURAL GREEN, INC. Roman Roos called the hearing to order at 10:45 p.m. witqthe following interested persons present: Douglas Hansen, 17001 Stodola Road, Minnetonka James Hawks . David Luse, Victoria 4It " Al Klingelhutz ,8601 Great Plains Blvd. Bernard Schneider Bill Brezinsky Russell Larson Bob Waibel read the official notice as published in the Garver County Herald. No decision will be made until. after ,the public hearing June 14 on the proposed ordinance amendment. Mr. Luse explained that his operation is not wholesale or retail. The nursery stock is strictly used for job sites only. No additional structures are proposed on the property located on the hqrth side of Highw~y 5 just west ,of Lake Ann_Park. Truck parking wil~ be behind the barn but at the present time the ground is to wet. . Dick Matthews moved to continue the public hearing to June 14 and consider the matter of allowing as a conditiQnal use the Idisplay of nursery stock within the R-IA District, and as a part of #hi.s, consideration the allowance of a conditional use permit to Natural Gree~, Inc. .Motion seconded by Jerry Neher and unanimou~ly approved. Hear~ng cont~nued at 11:10 p.m. I e - e . Planning Commission Meet~ng Xay 10, 1978 -7- SITE PLAN REVIEW - HANSEN & KLINGELHUTZ: Tom KI~ngelhutz, Doug Hansen, Jim Hawks, and Jeff Swedlund were present. H. & K. are proposing to construct a 19,800 square foot office/warehouse facility on Lots 4 and 5 Burdick Park. The property is currently zoned I-I and is shown on the HRA plan as General Business. Sewer and water are available to the property. The proposed building has seven 30' x 90' bays and approximately 600 square feet of that will be office. Seventy-six parking spaces are shown but some may have to be eliminated near the loading dock. No materials will be stored outside but vehicles may be parked outside. The building will be eight inch concrete block with a fractured block band along the top for decoration. Walter Thompson moved to recommend the Council look with favor on the Hansen and Klingelhutz office/warehouse facility subject to: 1. That an adequate development contract controlling the visual quality of the grounds be implemented. 2. That the proposed rear yard setback be allowed as submitted. 3. That parking up to the westerly property line be permitted. 4. That the clear aisle widths by the loading docks be increased to meet ordinance standards. 5. That the loading dock width be increased to 12 feet. 6. That the berm at the north access on Mandan Drive should not exceed 2% feet in height. 7. That more detailed information be supplied concerning the outside storage facilities. 8. That information regarding the architectural treatment of the building be furnished. 9. That plans for signage be submitted for Sign Committee review. 10. The developer submit a lighting plan for review by the Planning Commission. II. The front yard setback is 23 feet. The ordinance calls for a 30 foot front yard setback. 12. The developer consider 450 angle parking along the west property line. The Guide :Plan and CBD Plan show the area to the west to be something other than R-IA, therefore, the Planning Commission recommends a side yard variance be granted. Motion seconded by Jerry Neher and unanimously approved. Dick Matthews moved to adjourn. Motion seconded by Les Bridger and unanimously approved. Meeting adjourned at 12:30 a.m. Don Ashworth City Manager