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REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 24, 1979
Roman Roos called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. with the following members present:
Pat Swenson, Tim Stone, Jerry Neher, and Walter Thompson. Gordon Freeburg was present.
Mal MacAlpine was absent.
OATH OF OFFICE: The Assistant City Attorney administered the oath of office to
Gordon Freeburg and Walter Thompson as members of the Planning Commission.
MINUTES: Jerry Neher moved to approve the December 27, 1978, Planning Commission minutes.
Motion seconded by Tim Stone. The following voted in favor: Roman Roos, Tim Stone,
Jerry Neher, and Gordon Freeburg. Walter Thompson and Pat Swenson abstained. Motion
carried.
Walter Thompson moved to note the December 18, 1978, Council minutes. Motion seconded
by Pat Swenson and unanimously approved.
Walter Thompson moved to note the January 8, 1979, Council minutes. Motion seconded
by Tim Stone and unanimously approved.
PUBLIC HEARING
PROPOSED SUBDIVISION
GABBERT AND BECK, INC.
Roman Roos called the hearing to order at 7:45 p.m. with the following interested persons
present:
Julius Smith, 7101 York Ave. So., Mpls.
Roger Drewing, 1285 Park St., St. Paul
Dale Geving, 7206 Huron, Chanhassen
Larry Koechel, 4644 Vincent So., Mpls.
James Borhave, 7101 York Ave. So., Mpls.
The official notice of the hearing was published in the Carver County Herald.
This proposed plat was submitted to arrange for platting of the whole area which is
under the ownership of Gabbert and Beck. The property is located on the north side
of Highway 5 along the eastern most boundary of Chanhassen in Hennepin County. It is
approximately 40 acres in size and would consist of Outlot A and Lot 1, Block 1, Park
One which is the first phase of The Press.
The Assistant City Manager/Planner has reviewed the proposal and found tWf)'< points of
investigation: (1) The naming of the street West 77th Street, (2) Presently The Press
has a temporary access from MnDOT. At the completion of the road, the Assistant City
Manager/Planner recommended that a collaps~ble barricade be constructed along the
temporary easement since there is an inordinately long cul-de-sac on the frontage
road until the remainder of the road is completed to 184th Street.
Walter Thompson moved to close the public hearing. Motion seconded by Jerry Neher
and unanimously approved. Hearing closed at 7:55 p.m.
SUBDIVISION RE UEST - GABBERT AND BECK, INC. Walter Thompson moved to recommend approval
of t e preliminary plat marke Exhi it A, dated January 24, 1979, subject to staff
recomnendations. Motion seconded by Jerry Neher and unanimously approved.
CHAIRMAN: Tim Stone moved to appo~nt Roman Roos as Chairman of the Planning Commission.
Motion seconded by Pat Swenson and unanimously approved.
VICE CHAIRMAN: Pat Swenson moved to appoint Walter Thompson as Vice Chairman of the
Planning Commission. Motion seconded by Jerry Neher and unanimously approved.
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RULES OF ORDER: Tim Stone moved that the Chanhassen Planning Commission shall
conduct business pursuant to Roberts Rules of Order. Motion seconded by Walter
Thompson and unanimously approved.
MEETING NIGHTS: Tim Stone moved that the regular Chanhassen Planning Commission
meeting nights shall be the second and fourth Wednesdays of each month at 7:30 p.m.
Motion seconded by Walter Thompson and unanimously approved.
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION: Tim Stone moved that Pat Swenson be the Chanhassen
Planning Commission liaison to the Park and Recreation Commission. Motion seconded
by Walter Thompson and unanimously approved.
SIGN COMMITTEE: Pat Swenson moved that Tim Stone be appointed to the Chanhassen Sign
Committee. Motion seconded by Jerry Neher and unanimously approved.
ALTERNATE TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS: Tim Stone moved that Gordon Freeburg
be the alternate Planning Commission representative to the Board of Adjustments and
Appeals. Motion seconded by Jerry Neher and unanimously approved.
PROPOSED PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT - NEAR MOUNTAIN PROPERTIES: Herb Baldwin,
Landscape Architect, peterP"tlaum,Genera'l I-'anner, a:n<:l two members of th~ Shorewood
Planning Commission were present. This 147.95 acre parcel is located in the northeast
corner of Chanhassen with an additional 178.58 acres in Shorewood. The property is
presently zoned R-1A. Sewer and water are available.
The Assistant City Manager/Planner discussed several of his concerns:
1. An east-west collector street through the area~
2. Pedestrian trail. Staff will prepare standards fort combination trail and collector _
street. .
3. The applicant must prepare an environmental assessment worksheet.
4. This proposal is subject to the criteria of the Riley-Purgatory Creek Watershed
District, DNR, and Carver Soil and Water Conservation Services.
Herb Baldwin gave a slide presentation on the proposed development. The members of
the Shorewood Planning Commission invited the Chanhassen Planning Commission to their
meeting January 25 at Minnewashta School.when this proposal will be discussed.
Single family homes and condominiums are proposed for a total of 389 units in
Chanhassen.
Mr. Pflaum expressed concern about the proposed collector street going thrpugh the
property. '
1. It woul d spl i t the property in two.
2. It would destroy some of the things they are after in purchasing the site and
that was putting the people so they are next to the living environment.
3. A four lane road would have a severe impact just to cut through Near Mountain.
The road would either have to climb up the slope or cut back on it and use
some significant retaining walls or go through the marsh.
They would be willing to listen and try to work a road system as long as it wouldn't
be a four lane road. A road that would meander through the sitaso it wouldn't
encourage people to drive through the site and a road that wouldn't be right next
to their natural amenities.
Tim Stone moved to recommend the applicant proceed with preliminary development plans,
prepare an EAW, and seek watershed district input and comments. Motion seconded by 411'
Gordon Freeburg and unanimously approved.
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NEW HORIZON HOMES, INC. - CHAPARRAL OUTLOT BAND C, PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN:
Members discussed the environmental assessment, sidewalks along the south and west
sides of MSAS 101 and a bicycle trail. A representative of New Horizon Homes handed
out maps showing lot dimensions and copies of the covenants.
Tim Stone moved to hold a public hearing on February 14, 1979, at 7:45 p.m. to
consider rezoning, subdivision, planned development, and conditional use permit for
the park New Horizon Homes, Inc. Motion seconded by Walter Thompson and unanimously
approved.
SUBDIVISION REQUEST - J. HAROLD ANDERSON: Mr. and Mrs. J. Harold Anderson and
Luke Melchert, Attorney, were present to discuss the proposed three lot subdivision
located at 6470 Oriole.
The City Engineer's report of January 24, 1979, was presented. A 30 foot right-of-way
for Oriole Lane exists along the eastern Anderson property line and a 60 foot right-
of-way for Forest Avenue bisects the south part of the property. While neither
Oriole Avenue (south of 64th Street) nor Forest Avenue is presently improved, the
Engineer feels both will be improved in the future to serve Herman Field, the south
part of the Anderson property, and the southwest part of the Reed property. The
Engineer suggested a 28 foot wide paved street within a 50 foot right-of-way. The
right-of-way for Forest Avenue should be retained. The Engineer feels that the
southerly ten feet could be vacated resulting in a 50 foot right-of-way. This
right-of-way and the existing sanitary sewer easement divide the southern portion
of the Anderson property into two parcels with approximate areas of 38,250 and
39,375 square feet. The Engineer concluded that while Mr. Anderson has proposed
subdivision of his property into three lots, Forest Avenue and the sanitary sewer
easement have effectively created two more. He suggested the Anderson's consider
subdivision of the property into five lots at this time and recommended approval of
this subdivision with dedication of an additional ten feet of right-of-way for
Oriole Lane and receipt of a petition for extension of Oriole Lane and utilities.
Tim Stone moved to direct the Andersons to work with staff to decide how they want
to subdivide their property and at that time staff will set a date for a public
hearing. Motion seconded by Walter Thompson and unanimously approved.
LOTUS LAKE COMMUNITY PARK: Don Ashworth was present to discuss the proposed park
property, method of financing, and whether to sell (undeveloped or platted) or
keep the additional property that had to be included when purchased from Near
Mountain Properties. Planning Commission members will study the material submitted
by the City Manager for discussion at a future meeting.
208 PLAN: The Assistant City Manager/Planner will prepare a response and present
it at the public hearing scheduled for January 25, 1979.
Don Ashworth
City Manager