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1979 09 12 - e e PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION MINUTES - September 12, 1979 Roman Roes called the n:eeting to order with the following members present: Gordon Freebw:g, Pat Swenson, ~lark Horn, Jack Bell, Walter Tharpson and Tom Droegemueller. Gordon Freeburg submitted an oral resignation from his post on the Planning Corrmission effective in1mediately. After a short discussion, the Planning Corrmission accepted the resignation and requested staff to arrange inte:r:views for new candidates. Mark Koegler discussed the Eden prairie Guide Plan, stating that it is a good comparison to Chanhassen's because of the proximity of the two communities and similar circumstances between them. They have some points in their's that have some specific impacts on Chanhassen. The goals and objectives of both cities were discussed. The subject of multiple housing vs. estate type was discussed, as far as the tax base. They discussed how a percentage in each category would be established as far as the housing mix. In 5-a, Land Use Component, Mark Koegler stated from a planning perspective, we should look at the uses that they are proposing on parcels adjacent to our municipal boundary. The vast majority of land adjacent to Chanhassen is either park or single family residential, and therefore he does not see any use conflicts with them in that regard. Where our industrial area extends into Hennepin county, they ar$ pursuing an industrial parcel on the other side of the line there as well. From a use perspective, he did not see any problems with any of the kinds of things that they are proposing as far as Chanhassen is concerned. 5-b is the Community Facilities section. Mark does not have,'any specific comments with regard to Chanhassen on this section. What Eden Prairie had done is used Edina as a model for school population. They also referred to the Environmental Impact statement that was done for Jonathan. 5-c,/tfifRsggEt~ghoH~ felt has the most impact on what they propose on Chanhassen. Apparently Hennepin County has indicated that the extension of the Crosstown is on the back burner now, north across to Eden Prairie to the Chanhassen limit~ Eden Prairie apparently contacted Mayor Hobbs and requested that Chanhassen assist Eden Prairie in its efforts to elevate that project to something that might become a reality in the near future. Our City Council, in the overall planning picture, agreed that at least the Planning Commission would look at whether or not Chanhassen would endorse the extension of the road across Eden Prairie. There are a number of ~outes that they are proposing some work on which do have an impact on Chanhassen. They talk about upgrading 101 from Highway 62 to just north of the railroad tracks in Chanhassen, with tvlO moving lanes with turn lanes. He didn't feel that was a problem, that is consistent with what we will be looking at, basicallY an improvement of the flow on 101. They talk about TH5 becoming an urban expressway status from Chanhassen, basically east. They are looking at improving the movement on 5. Obviously in our transportation planning, I am assuming we are going to call for some kind of improvement in movement on 5 They are proposing Dell Road be a local collector. They are still planning on 101 basically maintaining its arterial type function. They are not thinking of re- routing 101 into Eden P-rairie. They have been working with Chanhassen on our frontage roads etc. to insure that when Dell Road goes in it will be able totie into those. PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION MINUTES - Sept. 12, 1979 Page 2 - On the map where our area into Hennepin County is shown, B which is the dashed line, turns south, which is 5. Apparently what they are thinking is that when 212 goes in, they would like to try to divert some of the traffic off of 5 down to 212 at this point. The philosophy of that doesn't bother him so much, but they actually show the link occurring within Chanhassen. He doesn't necessarily see that that will be reflected in our plans. In addition to the roads, the transportation network also includes pedestrian and bicycle. They do show a consistent link and it does hit a point in Chanhassen roughly right around the Lotus Lake, B. T. Land Develop- ment area which is consistent with one of our trails, so we do have a connecting link with Eden Prairie at that point. Mark stated as far as endorsing the extension of the Crosstown, as far as the comprehensive plan goes, the posture that we are not going to endorse nor are we going to fight that particular element of their transportation would be his opinion. That is something that is an integral part of their community planning and we recognize that. Jack Bell moved to endorse the extension of the Crosstown Highway as proposed by Eden Prairie, with the understanding that we are not changing the position that was previously established with respect to further extension through Chanhassen of Crosstown. Motion seconded by Walter Thompson and approved. On the points that are left of the Guide Plan elements, Mark stated he did not come across anything that had adverse impact to the City of Chanhassen. e Mark briefly described the material on the Land Use Element Survey Analysis. He pointed out a couple of things for the Planning Commission's consideration, the cover page, summarizing major points, assembling a list and consider any very significant additions to that list or modifications that should be made to those. He included some map material on the existing land use in the city, he broke this out specifically from the land use map to get a better look at where residential is within the community, and where the other components are. Also, Land Use Implications, he would like to have underscored what we consider to be existing liabilities within the community from a land use perspective, and what some of the assets are within the community. Next a review of the land use sketch plan took place. Mark stated that the Lake Studies Committee now is actively pursuing developing some policies with regard to the dockage issue, and some recommendations should be coming from them soon. Mark stated that the residential area on the north side of 78th is part of the officially zoned CBD for Chanhassen, so therefore commercial development at the present time is likely to or could occur within that area. He felt that we need to do an overall review of what land is within the CBD. He stated one of the things that is going to have to be considered is the proposed extension of utility areas in five year increments. Scheduling of meetings for the next few months was discussed. e Jack Bell moved to adjourn the meeting. Motion seconded by Walter Thompson and unanimously approved. Don Ashworth City Manager