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REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING - September 19, 1979
Roman Roos called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. with the following members
present: Jack Bell, Clark Horn, Tom Droegemueller and Walter Thompson. Pat
Swenson was absent.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
On Page 18 of the Planning Commission Minutes of August 22, 1979, the statement
by Clark Horn in the sixth paragraph should read nClark Horn stated that it was
brought out last time that under industrial, lumber goods were allowed to be sold
in a retail mode."
Walter Thompson moved to accept the minutes of the August 22, 1979 Planning
Commission Meeting. Motion seconded by Clark Horn and unanimously approved.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, RUSS MURPHY, LOT 7, BLOCK 5,
CHANHASSEN LAKES BUSINESS PARK, PUBLIC HEARING
Roman Roos called the hearing to order at 7:40 p.m. with the following interested
persons present:
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Barbara Murphy, 8701 Utah Ave. So., Bloomington, Mn. 55438
Russell Murphy, 8701 Utah Ave. So., Bloomington, Mn. 55438
Bruce Hubbard, P. O. Box 391, Wayzata, Mn. 55391
The applicant is proposing to construct an approximate 9,000 square foot office/
warehouse building approximately 900 feet west of the intersection of Park Road
and County Road 17 on the south side of Park Road. Bob Waibel recommended that
the planning commission recommend that the City Council approve the conditional
use permit, landscape plan, and site plan as represented on planning case 640
site plan dated July 17, 1979 revised August 26 , 1979 upon the following conditions:
1. That the city engineer review and recommend approval of the grading, drain-
age and lighting plan;
2. That all roof top equipment, and refuse storage be screened;
3. That the perimeter of all driving, parking and maneuvering areas be lined
with concrete curb and gutter;
4. That any and all signs receive sign committee review and city council
approval.
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Mr. Bruce Hubbard, on behalf of Russ Murphy, described briefly their plans for
this project. He stated in regard to the parking requirements, they have 19 shown,
inasmuch as Chanhassen did not have a definite parking requirement, he went by
what the neighboring cities have. As far as the trash storage, it would be
contained in a dumpster or container from a local trash hauler. It would be
kept on the back side of the building. He stated the drainage requirements,
the existing contours are based on the latest map which the engineers from
Dunn & Curry provided. It is based on what their proposed finished grades for
that site are. They are providing two handicap stalls, standard 12 ft. wide,
with curb cut. They prefer not to put curb in to allow for expansion.
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As far as tenants for his building, Mr. Hubbard stated that Mr. Murphy is
interested in businesses that are compatible with his, something along the lines
that are similar to his. He also stated that there will be no rooftop equipment.
He stated that they would sod the area that would be taking the bulk of the
drainage, so that erosion would not take place. There will be no parking lot
lighting other than wall pack on the building itself. He stated there will be
three small condensers for air conditioning outside, along the side.
Tom Droegemueller stated he is concerned about what the potential tenants will
be.
Walter Thompson was concerned about the fact that we don't have any set back
requirements for the industrial area, and whether we are setting a precedent
with this. He stated he would hate to see where we would require a big set back
in an industrial area, but he felt we should have some landscaping, some grass
and some greEn in front of the building. He felt that this is something that we
are going to have to address ourselves to very shortly.
Roman Roos commented that staff should get Ed Dunn's thinking on this.
Mr. Murphy spoke about what type of tenants he would allow in his building.
He said there would be no welding going on other than for their own repair work,
five minutes once or twice a week. They don't subcontract welding.
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Clark Horn asked about wastes, what type of control there was on what could be
put down the sewer. Mr. Murphy stated most of their wastes are aluminum or
steel or brass shavings, and the aluminum and brass they save and sell, and
the rest goes in a barrel and picked up with the trash. Clark was also concerned
about the tenants, and what they would have.
Walter Thompson moved to close the public hearing. Motion seconded by Jack Bell
and unanimously approved.
Jack Bell moved that the city council approve a Conditional Use Permit and
Landscape Plan and Site Plan as presented previously, subject to the conditions
set out in Bob Waibel's report dated September 17, 1979, to the Planning
Commission, with the following modifications:
l. There will be no roof top equipment, but small units on the front of the
building with sleeve units on the side;
2. That the curb be left off on the South and East area for purposes of
expansion;
3. The sign committee will review the sign and give approval or denial.
Motion seconded by Walter Thompson and unanimously approved.
Clark Horn moved to amend the agenda to hold Item No. 5 at this time. Motion
e seconded by Tom Droegemueller and unanimously approved.
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SKETCH PLAN REVIEW, GEORGE JACKSON,
6480 MURRAY HILL ROAD
The applicant is requesting to subdivide an approximate 54,780 square foot parcel
from the parent parcel of approximately l~ acres in size.
Bob Waibel gave the staff report on this property. He stated that since this
proposal is essentially to detach the existing house on lot 2 from the remainder
of the property for sales purposes, such a proposal can be accepted only upon the
condition that the entire property be platted and that proposed lot 2 be platted
as lot 1, block 1, and the remainder of the holdings be platted as unbuildable
outlot with the understanding that the outlot status would change accordingly only
with the availability of sewer service, and/or with changes or amendments to city
ordinances.
He recommended that the planning commission direct that the city council approve
the subject request conditioned upon the applicant platting the entire parcel
making proposed lot 2, lot 1 block 1 of the Jackson Addition, and the remainder
of the parcel being platted as unbuildable outlot with appropriate agreements or
documentation noting such.
Craig Mertz pointed out that the proposal as presented does not have adequate
~ street frontage on either one of the two tracts.
This whole proposal is predicated on trying to sell the house with a marketable
amount of land with it.
The sewer situation was discussed, along with the street frontage.
Craig Mertz stated the ordinance says that subdivision in areas not served by
sanitary sewer shall be prohibited until sewer is available. Subdivision means
dividing a piece of property into two or more parcels.
Jack Bell moved to deny the request for a subdivision public hearing in view of
the fact that the application appears to violate the no-platting rule in
Ordinance 45. Motion seconded by Clark Horn. Voting in favor of the motion
were Clark Horn, Jack Bell, Roman Roos and Walter Thompson. Voting no was
Tom Droegemueller. Motion carried.
CONSIDERATION OF REZONING FRONTIER DEVELOPMENT PARK
FROM C-3 AND I-I TO CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT (CBD)
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Bob Waibel gave a staff presentation regarding this. He stated he would like to
have the planning commission ~ive a number of recommendations to the city council
in order to get the industrial connotations out of the well defined business
district. He would like to give the city council a few alternatives, going
through the development scheme that had been drafted, showing different types of
uses within each of the zones. He felt on the CBD zoning, there isn't enough
to go by.
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The planning commission directed the staff to prepare a list of conditional
uses that could be inserted in the CBD ordinance. The planning commission
also wants to see what modifications staff would make into the perimeter of
the CBD area, bring it current and state what staff wou1d recommend as the CBD
area in total. Also,they directed staff to look at the concept plan itself,
how it can be handled to council to get a final reading on it.
Walter Thompson moved to adjourn the meeting. Motion seconded by Clark Horn
and unanimously approved.
Don Ashworth
City Manager