1980 02 06
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EXTRA SESSION
CHANHASSEN PLANNING CO~4ISSION
A meeting was held at ~he Chanhassen City Hall, 7610 Lardeo,
Chanhassen, Minnesota on February 6;,1980.
Present were:
Clark Horn
Walter Thompson
Art Partridge
Tom Hamilton
Jack Bell
Also present were: Bob Waibel, Asst. City Manager; Mark Koegler,
City Planner; Ed Dunn, Dunn & CurrYi Stelios Aslanidis, Urbanscopei
Bruce Patterson, Suburban EngineeringiGreg Engrami Jack Anderson,
Anderson & Associatesi Jules Smithi Jim OPt, City Engineeri Jim
Meyeri and Jerry Schlenk
Chairman Horn called the meeting to Order at 7:30 P.M.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Tom Hamilton moved, Walter Thompson second, to approve
~ the Minutes of January 23,1980. Motion carried.
Jack Bell obstained from approval vo.te.
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PROPOSED PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW, LAKE ANN PRD,
LAKE SUSAN WEST PRD, AND LAKE SUSAN SOUTH PRD - DUNN & CURRY, INC
Bob Waibel presented Chanhassen's commen~and recommendations
on Dunn & Curry's proposed developments. He stressed to the Planning
Commission the importance of resolving the density and land use
issues involved in these projects.
Ed Dunn presented a brief history on the projects. The sewer
system proposed is a designed Chanhassen trunk sewer, and their
proposals contemplate installing the necessary extensions to the
trunk sewer. He illustrated the planned land use densities to the
Planning Commission and expressed his desireror the Planning Com--
mission to concur that these plans have enough merit to be advanced
to a public hearing at the earliest possible date.
Stelios Aslanidis reported. on the three projects. The Lake
Ann development contains 790 units. He illustrated the types of
housing and land use areas. Discussion took place on lot sizes
and densities.
Mr. Aslanidis illustrated the new changes in the plan which
consisted mainly of density changes and the phasing aspects~
The Planning Commission expressed their concern about the density
alloca tions of the plans, "they further commented on the C. R. # 17
access. This matter will be further investigated.
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Bruce Patterson illustrated the road and sewer sec"tions of
Phase I.
Chairman Horn requested comments from the Commission members
concerning the 28' road widths.
Art Partridge: " I don't believe we need them any wider as long
as there is no onstreet parking.
Tom Hamilton: " The 28' road widths are adequate only if there lS
no onstreet parking."
Jack Bell: "The 28' road width seems adequate, parking on one
side of the road would be appropriate."
Walter Thompson: "More roadway would create more paving, more
possible water runoff and more possible sewer problems."
The Planning Commission concurs with the 28' road widths,
and the 32' road widths in the higher density areas.
Jack Anderson address the volume, widths and right-of-way
issues of the roads. Discussion took place on the 36' road widths.
No recommendations were made at this time.
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Stelios Aslanidis illustrated the changes in the Lake Susan
\i~est development plans. The overall density is less -than that pro-
posed for Lake Ann. The Lake Susan West proposal contains 3 units
per acre, single family density is 2.5. There was general discussion
on the land and density of the project.
Tom Hamilton commented on the proposed park area land being
peat. Ed Dunn s.tated that all the lakeshore has gone into park.
There is 80 acres and they (Dunn & curry) have a 50% credit (40
acres) from a Park and Recreation recommenda"tion. He furthered
that tie did not feel that it would be a problem filling a limited
amount of it, there is enough fill available to make a portion
(2 play areas) of active park area.
Stelios Aslanidis illustrated the cha.nges in the Lake Susan
Hills South development. There was discussion on the densities
and the impact this development will have on the present landowners
along the lakeshore.
Chairman Horn requested general comments on the 3 proposed
developments.
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'rom Hamil ton commented on Dunn & Curry's concept of developing
around the lake first and then building out to the highway on the
Lake Ann project. Ed Dunn stated that. i tis more economically and
mechanically feasible. Hr. Hamilton further commented that dividing
Chanhassen by major roads may qreate"a problem in drawing people
to the shopping centers. This lead into.discussion of the C.R.#17
and Highway #5 intersection. Ed Dunn stated signalized intersections
may be warranted here and at other problem areas.
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Jack Bell commented that he likes the project as it is
being presented.
Walter Thompson stated that if this development goes
through as planned there is going to be a tremendous traffic
problem on Highway #5. There is a traffic problem now, and
an additional 2000 units will surely not ease the problem.
Jack Anderson presented a future projection of highway
uses in 1990. With Highway #212 in circulation at that time he
states that the traffic through Chanhassen should decrease. He
further illustrated the proposed Park Drive - Highway #5 inter--
section showing it as possibly being signalized.
Art Partridge ~nformed that he does not feel he would like
another stop sign in that area.
Tom Hamilton stated that Highway #5 is already a mess. He
would recommend leaving the stop sigh out, but closely watching
the intersection.
Jack Bell does not see -this as a problem to address at this
time.
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~valter Thompson suggested that if there is a service road
parallel to Highway #5, people may use it to avoid such a stop
light.
Chairman Horn called for a vote to 'proceed with the public
hearing. Art Partridge: yes; Jack Bell: yes; Tom Hamilton: yes;
Walter Thomspon: yes.
Jack Bell moved, Art Partridge second, to proceed with the
public heariI1g for the general development plans of the PUD's
and the preliminary plats for Phase I of Lake Ann and Phase I
of Lake Susan West. Notion carried.
OPEN DISCUSSION
Art Partridge suggested that a large scale map be obtained
and posted showing Chanhassen's proposed developments. He also
suggested that signs be placed on properties being proposed for
land use changes.
Bob Haibel informed the Planning Commission -that there are
8 or 9 applicants to be interviewed on February 13th, 20th and
possibly the 27th.
ADJOURNMENT
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Art Partridge moved, Tom Hamilton second, to adjourn the
meeting at 11:50 P.M. Motion carried.
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