1980 10 01
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD OCTOBER 1, 1980, AT 7:30 P.M.
CHANHASSEN CITY HALL, 7610 LAREDO DRIVE
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Members Present: Chairman C. Horn, J. Thompson, B. Johnson,
w. Thompson, T. Hamilton, and M. Thompson
Members Absent: A. Partridge
Staff Present: M. Koegler and N. Rust
Others Present: Councilman Dale Geving
Review Housing Inventory:
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The Planning Commission reviewed the revised housing
inventory. Mr. J. Thompson felt a visual of a single family
unit on an average residential lot should be included within
the inventory section because single family dwellings has
traditionally been the prominent housing type in the city
of Chanhassen. Discussion followed on the alternative housing
types. Mr. W. Thompson expressed concern about encroachment
of garages within the setback area if they are constructed
after the construction of the dwelling. Mr. Koegler responded
that that would be a development standard which could be
incorporated somewhere in the Housing Plan. The Planning
Commission expressed no other concerns with the housing inventory
and approved of its overall contents.
Discussion, Housing Plan:
Ms. Rust explained the relationship between the Metropolitan
Council and the City of Chanhassen and the housing goals
the Metropolitan Council has set for the city. She proceeded
to explain the housing policies which were separated under
two categories: (1) Housing Availability and (2) Housing
Quality.
Chairman Horn felt ratios of subsidized housing units
oriented toward families or the elderly should be included
in the policy section of the Housing Plan. Discussion followed
on the process the Metropolitan Council used to determine
the numerical housing goals set for Chanhassen and the ratio
of subsidized housing to new construction between 1980 and
1990.
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Mr. Johnson felt that with Chanhassen's present population,
it would be difficult to support the subsidized housing units
Metropolitan Council has established in its goal statements.
He also felt land write-down programs were not appropriate
at this time for Chanhassen and the bulk of the subsidized
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housing should be incorporated within future large residential
development proposals. He felt the financial commitment Chan-
hassen could feasibly make toward subsidized housing construc-
tion was a key point and should be evaluated.
Chairman Horn felt a good location for subsidized
elerly housing was near the downtown business core which
was not proposed for redevelopment. In repsonse to the
Planning Commission, Mr. Koegler explained the family
and elderly percentage breakdown for subsidized units
was determined by HUD and, in most cases, could not be
exceeded.
Discussion followed on the numerical housing goals
for Chanhassen, and possible funding programs the City could
implement to meet its housing goals. Mr. Johnson felt a general
approach to implementation would be best, whereby they would
not designate numerical goals for particular programs and
housing types.
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It was felt the industrial park was a prime determiner
of housing needs for the community.
In the discussion of the policy for the placement
of subsidized housing, Mr. Koegler indicated the intent of
the policy was to ensure similar review practices for both
subsidized and market-rate housing developoments so that subsidized
housing units would not be placed in "inferior" locations
due to inconvenient locations of services. The Commission
wished to eliminate a reference to "inferior" location and
felt it was adequate to just ensure similar review practices
would occur for both market-rate and subsidized housing develop-
ments in the housing practices.
For the policy on alternative housing in the city,
Mr. Johnson felt it should be noted we will encourage alternative
housing but specific types should not be included. The Commission
wished to include the issue that the City of Chanhassen has
traditionally been predominantly a single-family community
but will consider, as the need arises, alternative housing.
Discussion closed.
Discussion, Transportation Plan:
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Mr. Koegler reviewed the Transportation Plan. He
indicated the construction of Highway 169-212 would not occur
prior to 1990 due to lack of available construction funds;
this would result in increased traffic on State Highways
5 and 41. He said he had asked the Metropolitan Council to
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do computer runs on volume analysis without the construction
of Highway 212 for the period of 1980 through 1990. In their
traffic projections, the Metrpolitan Council had assumed Highways
169-212 would be constructed and this showed lower traffic
volumes for Highways 5 and 41. The traffic projectsions were
accomplished through the definition of Transportation Analysis
Zones (TAZ), which is a geographic modeling by which the estimates
can be made.
Mr. Koegler noted that bus transit was currently limited
to two routes in Chanhassen, the Commission felt this was
inadequate for the City's needs. The plan showed a proposal
for additional buses on existing routes and route expansion.
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Discussion occurred on the designation of the Highway
169-212 corridor. Mr. Koegler explained existing transportation
systems and deficiencies within them. The Commission generally
felt a temporary contro~led intersection should be placed
at the entry to the Industrial Park. Mr. J. Thompson felt
the entry from the Minnewashta area unto Highway 7 should
be more controlled. Discussion occurred on whether the policy
should be to pave streets in the undeveloped areas of the
community.
Mr. Koegler displayed a graphic delineating a draft
major street plan which incorporated the old transportation
plan of 1972 and recent changes with the city's transportation
systems. The plan included major arterials, intermediate
arterials, and collector streets. Chairman Horn felt something
should be done to help deter the curvature problem of Highway
101. Mr. Johnson was concerned about Highway 5's adaptability
to the future increased traffic flow. Following further discussion
of Highway 5 and its construction, the Commission felt it
would be best to connect Highway 101 to Dell Road just north
of Highway 5 and to bring Highway 101 down to Highway 5 south.
The Commission asked Mr. Koegler to express this concept to
the City of Eden Prairie for their reaction and response.
Discussion occurred on Bluff Creek Drive and possible connection
to Highway 17. The Commission felt this action should be
deferred at this time. Discussion closed.
Adjournment:
Mr. Hamilton moved to adjourn the October 1, 1980,
Planning Commission. Mr. W. Thompson seconded the motion.
All voted aye. Motion carried.
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Meeting adjourned .