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MINUl'ES OF THE REGULAR
CHANHASSEN PLANNING a:MMISSION MEETING
HELD JULY 8, 1981, AT 7:30 P.M.
CHANHASSEN CITY HALL
APPROVED ON ;'::i~~
Members Present: Chairman Art Partridge, Carol Watson, Ladd
Conrad, Walter Thompson, and Jim Thompson
Members Absent: Howard Noziska and Mike Thompson
Staff Present: Bob Waibel, Bill Monk and Becky Foreman
Plan Amendment, Preliminary Development Plan, Final Development
Plan, and Site Plan Review, CPT Inc., Public Hearing:
Waibel read the staff report to the Planning Commission. He
reviewed the actions that have been taken on the lot in the
past.
The property owners within 350' were notified of this meeting
and no one was present. Dave Sellegren, a representative of
Park Two, stated that they had called a meeting with the neigh-
borhood sending out 142 notices and only 9 people came to the
meeting. The neighbors main concern was the traffic but that
was explained to their satisfaction that traffic will not be
as bad as they thought.
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Sellegren stated that the overland drainage pattern to the
southeast would be maintained and a retention pond would be
constructed to catch the water from the hard surfaces.
Regarding the vegetation, CPT plans to preserve as many trees
as possible. Staff recommended that they plant several additional
conifers by the frontage road west of the proposed building.
CPT indicated that they would do that.
CPT is going to provide 1 parking space per every employee on
the main shift, that should provide for more than they need.
They will have approximately 330 employees on the main shift.
A motion was made by W. Thompson seconded by Watson to close
the public hearing for the reason that CPT has met with the
neighbors prior to this meeting and none of the neighbors came
to the meeting so they must not have any problems with CPT's
proposal. All voted in favor and the motion was carried.
Conrad asked if the intersections will be a problem based on
future growth? Sellergren indicated that the Engineers have
looked into this and they feel that the intersections are built
to handle the growth.
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J. Thompson asked if CPT's new building will effect the sewage
capacity that Metro has set for Chanhassen? Bill Monk, City
Engineer, indicated that this proposal will not put us over the
number by Metro Council. 330 employees is the quivalent to
approximately 30 homes.
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Watson asked what types of toxic waste do
they treat it? Sellergren indicated that
but nothing will be going into the sewer.
for it.
they have and do
they will have soldering
CPT has a permit
J. Thompson asked how much land area does the building take up?
Sellergren indicated that it will be 30% of 22 acres.
Partridge asked what the exterior lighting will be like. Waibel
indicated that it is to be consistent with Chanhassen's. The
lights will be on the building and in the parking lots, the lighting
is more for security reasons rather than for advertising.
W. Thompson made a motion seconded by Conrad to recommend to the
City Council to approve the Plan Amendment and final development
plan, phase 1 of CPT with staffs recommendations as listed on
July 1, 1981 Planning Report along with Exhibit A dated June 18,
1981 with the exception that condition #3 be changed from curve
to curb. All voted in favor and the motion was carried.
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Approval of Minutes:
J. Thompson made a motion seconded by Watson to move to the
approval of minutes section since the Planning Commission was
ahead of schedule. All voted in favor and the motion was carried.
Conrad stated that at meetings where the public is giving their
comments the Planning Commission has to make sure that they state
their names.
W. Thompson made a motion, seconded by Conrad to approve the
minutes of June 17, 1981. Partridge, W. Thompson and Conrad
voted aye, Watson and J. Thompson abstained, motion carried.
A motion was made by Watson seconded by W. Thompson to accept
the minutes of June 24, 1981. All voted in favor and the motion
was carried.
Motion made by J. Thompson, seconded by Conrad to note the
minutes of the June 15, 1981 City Council Meetings.
All voted in favor and the motion carried.
W. Thompson made a motion seconded by Conrad to note the City
Council minutes of June 22 and 24, 1981. All voted in favor and
the motion was carried.
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July 8, 1981
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Park Two, Final Development Plan and Site Plan Review:
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Steve Krenz, a representative from Park Two, stated that if
this plan went along with the city's flood plain and Watershed
Districts then the DNR would approve the plan also.
Partridge explained that all the proposed uses for Park Two
do not fall under the P-3 classification, some are listed in
the C-3 catagory. partidge asked if the property could be
zoned C-3? Waibel indicated that maybe the planning Commission
could amend P-3 to allow service stations. But that may be
setting a precedent. P-3 allows for industrial with some com-
mercial uses but service stations aren't allowed.
Watson asked if the Planning Commission could zone the lots
individually with restrictions?
Frank Beddor, the applicant, indicated that at the last meeting
it was the concensus of the Planning
Commission that the lots fronting County Road #17 be spot
zoned commercial and the back lots zoned for industrial.
Beddor also indicated that he would like to locate a common
drive between lots 2 & 3, block I with a right turn only and a
common drive for lots 1 & 2, block 2. Lot 2, block 2 will be
land locked if no access is permitted onto #17.
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Russ Larson, City Attorney, suggested that the Planning Commission
consider zoning the commercial lots C-2 instead of C-3 because
the uses are a little more restrictive. Service stations are
permitted as a conditional use under C-2.
Partridge asked Larson if spot zoning is acceptable. Larson
stated that the proposed commercial uses seems to be compatable
with the industrial\uses he feels it would be acceptable.
Waibel indicated to the Planning Commission that the Public Hearing
was published in the paper as a rezoning to P-3, which may have to
be republished.
Watson made a motion seconded by Conrad to recommend to the
City Council to rezone the entire parcel to P-3, Planned Com-
munity Development District, with the exception of Lots I, 2, 3,
Block I and Lots I & 2, Block 2 and Lot 2, Block 3 which shall
be zoned C-2, Commercial District. Ayes - Watson, Partridge,
W. Thompson, Conrad, Nays - J. Thompson. Motion was carried.
J. Thompson indicated that he was concerned about commercial
uses in an industrial zone.
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July 8, 1981
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Waibel indicated that he was concerned about the pedestrian path
to Chanhassen Business Park and that no access to Highway #5 or
#17 should be granted, all accesses should be onto Park Road.
Lots 2, Block I is land locked, wants to minimize u-turns.
Daryl Fortier, a Park Two representative, indicated that the
County stated that they do not like median breaks any closer to
Highway #5 than 300'.
Partridge asked if the Planning Commission could require no
exit signs onto #17. Waibel stated that they would probably be violated
and #17 access should be limited.
Beddor indicated that if the lots couldn't have an access onto
County Road #17 that would create a hardship for the lots.
J. Thompson suggested that they eliminate entrances totally
from #17. Lot 2, Block 2 could be worked out with a cul-de-sac
through Lot I. Fortier indicated that that would take up quite
a bit of the land.
J. Thompson indicated that maybe Lot I & 2, Block 2 should be
only 1 lot instead of 2, then it wouldn't be land locked.
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A motion was made by J. Thompson seconded by Conrad to not allow
any curb cuts on County Road #17 except for Park Road. J. Thompson
and L. Conrad voted aye, Watson, W. Thompson and Partridge voted
nay. Motion failed.
A motion was made by J. Thompson, second by Watson that Block 1
be allowed a right turn only access located between Lots 2 and 3
and curb cut shall not be located closer than 300 feet from
the intersection. All voted in favor and the motion was carried.
Fortier indicated that Lot 2, Block 3 has only approximately
50% of building area.
W. Thompson made a motion, second by Watson that Lot 2, Block 3
accept the road pattern drawn in on Exhibit A with I curb cut
as a right out onto County Road #17 and to be not closer than
300 feet from the intersection of County Road #17 and Hwy #5.
All voted in favor and the motion was carried.
W. Thompson made a motion to return this site plan to the arch-
itect for further study on Lots 1,2,3,and 4 of Block 2. All
voted in favor and the motion was carried.
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Partridge made a comment stating that he would like to note
to the City Council that staff was not given adequate time
for a complete review of proposed site plan and further that
the Planning Commission recommendations are in opposition with
the staff's feelings that there be no curb cuts onto County
Road #17.
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July 8, 1981
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Fortier indicated that the
a two phase plan but one.
front of the parking lot.
Planning Commission dated
Instant Web building is no longer
There is a 25 foot green space in
Fortier submitted a letter to the
July 8, 1981.
Conrad made a motion seconded by W. Thompson to recommend to
the City Council approval of the proposed site plan of Lot 1,
Block 3 with review by the City Staff regarding parking, drainage,
lighting, landscaping and engineering and also with consideration
to conditions raised in the Planning Report dated June 5, 1981
and July 8, 1981 and the City Engineer's Report dated July 5, 1981.
All voted in favor and the motion was carried.
Hazardous Waste Site Selection Process Update:
Waibel and Partridge informed the Planning Commission of the
latest statis of Chanhassens involvement in the search process.
Meeting was adjourned at 12:00 a.m.