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CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
SUMMARY MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 6, 2005
Chairman Sacchet called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Uli Sacchet, Deborah Zorn, Debbie Larson, Jerry McDonald, Kurt
Papke and Dan Keefe
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Mark Undestad
STAFF PRESENT:
Bob Generous, Senior Planner; Sharmeen Al-Jaff, Senior Planner; Josh
Metzer, Planner I; and Alyson Morris, Assistant City Engineer
PUBLIC PRESENT FOR ALL ITEMS:
Deb Lloyd 7302 Laredo Drive
PUBLIC HEARING:
REQUEST FOR VARIANCE TO PLACE A SIGN ON A CANOPY, AMERICANA
COMMUNITY BANK, PLANNING CASE 05-28.
Public Present:
Name Address
James Ziegler 600 Market Street, Suite 100
Paul Punt 14680 James Road, Rogers, MN 55374
Josh Metzer presented the staff report on this item. Commissioner McDonald asked for
clarification on the status of the monument sign and if the proposed sign poses any hazards.
Chairman Sacchet asked for clarification of the ordinance relating to signage in Market Street
Station. Commissioner Keefe asked staff to clarify the sign orientation. Commissioner Larson
asked if the applicant would prefer to have the high sign versus the monument signage. Josh
Metzer explained that that would take council action to change the sign plan. The applicant, Paul
Punt with Attracta Sign explained the reasoning for their proposal and provided examples of
other buildings in town that have canopy signage. Commissioner McDonald asked for
clarification on the material and visibility of the sign. Commissioner Papke asked for
clarification of how the sign will be constructed. Chairman Sacchet asked the applicant if it
came down to the number of signs allowed, if he would be willing to trade this sign for another
one. The applicant stated that would be a decision that would have to be made by the bank.
Chairman Sacchet opened the public hearing. No one spoke and the public hearing was closed.
He asked staff for clarification on the ordinance regulating signage and if similar variances have
been granted before in the city. Commissioner Keefe asked about hardship requirements.
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Commissioner Larson asked about snowfall covering the monument sign and the possible need
for signage on the canopy. After discussion the following motion was made.
Papke moved, Zorn seconded that the Planning Commission denies Variance #05-28 for a
request for relief from city ordinances in order to place a non-illuminated sign on a bank
drive-thru canopy without street frontage based on the findings of fact in the staff report
and the following:
1. The applicant has not demonstrated hardship to warrant a variance.
2. The applicant has adequate signage.
Papke, Zorn, and Keefe voted in favor. McDonald and Larson voted in opposition.
Sacchet abstained. The motion carried with a vote of 3-2-1.
PUBLIC HEARING:
APPROVE REGISTERED LAND SURVEY FOR PROPERTY LOCATED ON LOTS 6 &
7, BLOCK 1, CHRISTMAS ACRES, FILE 05-02 SUBDIVISION, AND APPROVE
REGISTERED LAND SURVEY FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 860, 890 AND 910
PLEASANT VIEW ROAD, FILE 05-09: APPLICANT FRANK BEDDOR.
Public Present:
Name Address
Rob & Mary Reinsmoen 1180 Pleasant View Road
Daryl Fortier 1804 Spring Valley Circle, Golden Valley
Sharmeen Al-Jaff presented the staff report on this item. Commissioner Papke asked staff to
explain the role of the Planning Commission in a case like this. Chairman Sacchet clarified the
size and access to the different tracts. Daryl Fortier, representing the applicant Frank Beddor,
stated he was there to answer any questions. Chairman Sacchet opened the public hearing.
Debbie Lloyd, 7302 Laredo Drive clarified that the width and depth of Tract A met city
standards. Chairman Sacchet closed the public hearing. The following motion was made.
Keefe moved, McDonald seconded that the Planning Commission recommend approval of
the attached Registered Land Surveys referred to as Exhibits A and B as presented. All
voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6 to 0.
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REQUEST FOR SUBDIVISION OF LOT 2, BLOCK 1, SATHRE ADDITION (6605
HORSESHOE CURVE) INTO 3 LOTS WITH VARIANCES, HARVIEUX SUBDIVISION
APPLICANT RONALD HARVIEUX, PLANNING CASE 05-26.
Public Present:
Name Address
Ron & Leanne Harvieux 6605 Horseshoe Curve
Steve Wanek 6615 Horseshoe Curve
Don & Darlene Miller 395 Pleasant View Road
Maryevelyn Monty 370 Pleasant View Road
Joe Pfankuch 6611 Horseshoe Curve
Bob Generous presented the staff report on this item. Commissioner McDonald asked about
increasing the width of the driveway. Commissioner Keefe asked for clarification on the
impervious surface requirements. Chairman Sacchet asked about Balder Avenue and access to
the site. Commissioner Keefe asked about erosion control with the steep slopes and water
runoff. Commissioner Papke asked for clarification on the recommendations from staff on
changing lot lines. The applicant, Ron Harvieux,6605 Horseshoe Curve explained how they did
their design trying to keep grading to a minimum, addressing tree preservation and questions
about lot configurations. Chairman Sacchet opened the public hearing. Don Miller, 395
Pleasant View Road, which is directly north of this property stated their biggest concern was
placing the driveway as far away from their property line as possible and saving trees. Joe
Pfankuch, 6611 Horseshoe Curve had concern that these 3 lots would not be compatible in size
with the rest of the neighborhood, along with traffic safety and drainage issues. Don Miller
suggested that Lots 1 and 2 share a driveway. Steve Wanek, 6615 Horseshoe Curve questioned
the need for the variance. Debbie Lloyd, 7302 Laredo Drive questioned the use of a flag lot
versus private street for this subdivision and wanting to see a more complete submittal.
Chairman Sacchet closed the public hearing. After commission comments and discussion the
following motion was made.
Papke moved, McDonald seconded that the Planning Commission recommend approval of
the preliminary plat for Harvieux Addition with a variance for the use of flag lots, plans
prepared by Demars-Gabriel Land Surveyors, Inc. dated 8/04/05, based on the findings of
fact attached to this report and subject to the following conditions:
1. Only trees shown on the preliminary plat as being removed shall be allowed. No trees
are to be removed on Lot 1. Four trees are allowed to be removed on Lot 2. Any other
trees removed shall be replaced at a rate of 2:1 diameter inches.
2. Tree preservation fence shall be installed at the grading/clearing limits prior to any
construction activities and shall remain in place until construction is complete.
3. Detailed grading, drainage, tree removal, and erosion control plans will be required for
Lots 1 and 2 at the time of building permit application.
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4. The front lot lines for Lots 2 and 3 are the westerly lot lines.
5. Neck/flag lots must, by definition, be a minimum of 30 feet wide. The applicant shall
and to work with staff to
revise the plat to incorporate a 30 foot neck for Lot 3
minimize western movement of the east lot line for Lot number 1.
6. If grading will be done, a final grading plan and soils report must be submitted to the
Inspections Division before building permits will be issued.
7. Separate water and sewer services must be provided for each lot.
8. Addresses for each home must be posted on Horseshoe Curve and on each home.
9. No burning permits will be issued. Trees must either be chipped or removed from site.
10. Builder/developer must comply with Chanhassen Fire Department Policy #29-1991
regarding premise identification.
11. Erosion control blanket shall be installed on all slopes greater than or equal to 3:1. All
exposed soil areas shall have temporary erosion protection or permanent cover year
round, according to the following table of slopes and time frames:
Type of Slope Time
Steeper than 3:1 7 days (Maximum time an area can remain
10:1 to 3:1 14 days open when the area is not actively
Flatter than 10:1 21 days being worked.)
12. The existing erosion control fence drawing shall be replaced with City of Chanhassen
detail plate 5300.
13. Street cleaning of soil tracked onto public streets shall include daily street scraping and
street sweeping as needed.
14. Any hard surfaces (e.g. retaining walls, patios, decks, sidewalks) that may be needed
shall be illustrated on the proposed subdivision plan to ensure maximum impervious
coverage is not exceeded.
15. The plans shall show the ordinary high water level (OHW) of Lotus Lake (896.3) and the
required 75 foot setback.
16. The applicant shall pay for the total SWMP fee, due payable to the City at the time of
final plat recording. At this time the estimated fee is $7,558.00.
17. The developer shall pay full park fees for the two new lots at the time of final plat
recording.
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18. Permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies will have to be obtained, including but
not limited to the MPCA, MN Department of Health, MCES, and Watershed District.
19. Show the benchmark used for the site survey.
20. Tree preservation fencing must be installed at the limits of tree removal.
21. Extend the silt fence to the north along the west side.
22. Add a note to the plan: All sanitary services must be 6 inch PVC-SDR26 and water
service 1 inch copper.
23. If importing or exporting material for development of the site is necessary, the applicant
will be required to supply the city with a detailed haul route and traffic control plan.
24. The sanitary sewer and water hookup charges are applicable for each of the new lots.
The 2005 truck hookup charge is $1,458 for sanitary sewer and $2,955 for watermain.
25. All disturbed areas as a result of construction must be seeded and mulched or sodded
immediately after grading to minimize erosion.
26. Add the following City detail plates to the plans: 2001, 5200, 5300, and 5301.
27. Gutters must be installed on the house on Lot 2 and must discharge to the southwest
corner.
28. Submit a security to ensure that the street cuts are properly restored to city standards.
29. The applicant should be aware that any retaining wall more than 4 feet in height must be
designed by a structural engineer registered in the State of Minnesota. Also, it will
require a building permit through the City’s Building Department.
30. Maximum side slope is 3:1, adjust 956’ contour north of proposed house on Lot 2
accordingly.
31. Cleanouts are required at all bends of the sanitary sewer service or every 90 feet,
whichever is less.
as much
32. Relocate Lot 2 driveway access to the south along Lot 1 northerly property line
as feasible without loss of the western most 34 inch oak tree.
33. Standard drainage and utility easements shall be dedicated over the front, side and rear
yards within the subdivision.
34. A cross access and maintenance agreement shall be recorded over Lot 3 for the benefit of
Lot 46, Pleasant View Addition for the existing driveway.
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All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6 to 0.
PUBLIC HEARING:
REQUEST FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR OFFICE/WAREHOUSE BUILDING ON
PROPERTY LOCATED ON LOT 4, BLOCK 2, CHANHASSEN WEST BUSINESS
PARK, APPLICANT MINGER CONSTRUCTION, PLANNING CASE 05-27.
Bob Generous presented the staff report on this item. Chairman Sacchet asked for clarification
on the overall design of the business park, grading and traffic issues. Commissioner Keefe asked
about the location of the trash enclosure and signage. Commissioner Papke asked for
clarification on parking lot configuration. The applicant, Patrick Minger, 2218 Lukewood
showed a concept drawing for outdoor storage on this site. Chairman Sacchet opened the public
hearing. No one spoke and the public hearing was closed. After discussion the following motion
was made.
Keefe moved, McDonald seconded that the Planning Commission recommends approval of
Site Plan Planning Case #05-27 for a 46,152 square foot office warehouse building, plans
prepared by Schoell and Madson, Inc., dated August 5, 2005, subject to the following
conditions:
1.The applicant shall enter into a site plan agreement with the City and provide the necessary
security to guarantee erosion control, site restoration and landscaping.
2.The building is required to have an automatic fire extinguishing system.
3.The plans must be prepared and signed by design professionals licensed in the State of
Minnesota.
4.PIV is required on the building water service.
5.No burning permits will be issued for trees to be removed. Trees and shrubs must either be
removed from site or chipped.
6.Fire apparatus access road and water supply for fire protection is required to be installed.
Such protection shall be installed and made serviceable prior to and during the time of
construction except when approved alternate methods of protection are provided.
7.A fire apparatus access road shall be designed and maintained to support the imposed load of
fire apparatus and shall be serviced so as to provide all weather driving capabilities. Pursuant
to Minnesota Fire Code Section 503.2.3.
8.Temporary street signs shall be installed on street intersections once construction of the new
roadway allows passage of vehicles. Pursuant to 2002 Minnesota Fire code Section 501.4.
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9.A 10-foot clear space must be maintained around fire hydrants, i.e., street lamps, trees,
shrubs, bushes, Xcel Energy, Qwest, cable TV and transformer boxes. This is to ensure that
fire hydrants can be quickly located and safely operated by firefighters. Pursuant to
Chanhassen City Ordinance #9-1.
10.An additional fire hydrant will be required in the island off the northeast corner of the
building. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location.
11.Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy #29-1991 regarding
premise identification.
12.Revise the lighting plan to incorporate shielded light fixtures. Lighting shall be high-
pressure sodium.
13.Space for recycling shall be provided in the interior of all principal structures or within an
enclosure for each lotdeveloped in the Business Park.
14.All wetland impacts shall be mitigated in accordance with the Wetland Alteration Permit for
Chanhassen West Business Park.
15.All wetlands and proposed mitigation areas shall maintain a 16.5 – 20-foot buffer strip
around the perimeter of the wetlands.
16.Wetland buffer areas shall be preserved, surveyed and staked in accordance with the City’s
wetland ordinance.
17.The applicant shall install wetland buffer edge signs, under the direction of City staff, before
construction begins and must pay the City $20 per sign.
18.All structures (including parking lots) shall maintain a 40-foot setback from the edge of the
wetland buffer.
19.Silt fence shall be installed along west property edge behind retaining wall near flared end
section to minimize sediment erosion.
20.Silt fence shall be installed outside of wetland buffer edges.
21.The contractor shall use a Wimco or similar catch basin erosion control BMP.
22.All exposed soil areas shall have temporary erosion protection or permanent cover year
round, according to the following table of slopes and time frames:
Type of Slope Time (Maximum time an area can
Steeper than 3:1 7 days remain open when the area
10:1 to 3:1 14 days is not actively being worked.)
Flatter than 10:1 21 days
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These areas include constructed storm water management pond side slopes, and any exposed
soil areas with a positive slope to a storm water conveyance system, such as a curb and gutter
system, storm sewer inlet, temporary or permanent drainage ditch or other natural or man
made systems that discharge to a surface water.
23.All erosion control measures shall be installed and maintained in accordance with City, Carver
County Water Resource Management Area and MPCA permit requirements.
24.A NPDES permit will be needed for the site and a completed SWPPP is needed for the site
and should be available at the preconstruction meeting and on site during construction.
25.The contractor shall inspect daily all erosion control measures and perform maintenance on
BMPs as needed or required.
26.The storm water pond on Outlot A shall be constructed prior to or concurrent with the
development of this site. All storm sewer infrastructure between this site and the outlet into the
storm water pond on Outlot A shall be installed prior to or concurrent with this development.
27.The applicant shall increase the number of trees and islands/peninsulas in the parking lot to
meet minimum landscape requirements.
28.Tree protection fencing shall be installed at the grading limits prior to any construction and
remain until construction is completed.
29.The applicant shall locate additional landscaping at the southern end of the property. Native
species shall be used.
30.The existing swale west of the parking lot shall be filled in to eliminate or reduce the height
of the proposed retaining wall.
31.Retaining walls that exceed four feet in height must be designed by an Engineer registered in
the State of Minnesota and require a building permit.
32.If feasible, the proposed storm sewer west of the parking area shall be eliminated and
rerouted to the storm sewer system to the east.
33.Disturbed areas must be restored to a minimum 3:1 grade.
34.Pipe bollards must be installed around all locations where the pavement grade exceeds 5%.
35.The eastern access to Lot 4 must align with the eastern access to Lot 5. The radius of the
access to Lot 4 must accommodate the turning movement for a small delivery truck.
36.The grey line type shown in the legend should be labeled “by others”, not “existing”.
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37.Verify that the storm sewer on the west side of Lot 4 will be constructed with the site plan
improvements for Lot 5 or adjust the line type accordingly.
38.The main drive aisle through the site will be a private street since it serves multiple lots. As
such, the road must be a minimum of 26 feet wide, built to a 9-ton design, and enclosed
within a 40-foot wide private easement. A cross-access easement must be obtained and
recorded before building permit issuance. The developer must submit testing reports
verifying that the driveway is built to a 9-ton design.
39.A sidewalk connection to the public street must be constructed. The sidewalk shall be
installed on the west side of the eastern site access and on the south side of the private drive.
The sidewalk shall include pedestrian ramps at all curbs.
40. Should the building have external trash disposal, trash containers must be properly
screened from the surrounding area.
41. Outside storage shall be shown and approved by City Council.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6 to 0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Keefe noted the verbatim and summary minutes of the Planning Commission
meeting dated August 2, 2005 as presented.
Commissioner Zorn noted the minutes of the Planning Commission work session meeting dated
August 16, 2005 as presented.
Chairman Sacchet adjourned the meeting at 9:10 p.m.
Submitted by Kate Aanenson
Community Development Director
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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