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1982 01 06 MINUTES OF THE JOINT MEETING BETWEEN THE CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COu~CIL HELD JANUARY 6, 1982 AT 7:30 P.M. CHANHASSEN COUNCIL CHAMBERS 1t (,'Jl-D'dJ- ...".. APPROVED ON ~ Members Present: Art Partridge, Howard Noziska, Bill Swearengin, Carol Watson, Mike Thompson, Jim Thompson, Ladd Conrad, Pat Swenson, Tom Hamilton, John Neveaux, Clark Horn. Members Absent: Dale Geving Staff Present: Scott Martin, Bob Waibel, Don Ashworth, Becky Foreman Art Partridge, Chairman of the Planning Commission, called the meeting to order at 7:40 p.m. Partridge explained to the City Council that the Planning Commission would like to get some feed back from them on the Planning Commission's Work Prog~am Schedule and also about the revision of the zoning ordinance. e 1. 2. 3 . 4. 5. 6 . 7. 8. 9. l. 2 . 3. - 4. 5. Hamilton suggested that the Planning Commission change their work schedule into two lists, the first list would be the priority items and the other would be the on-going items. Hamilton stated that the items on the list should be listed in order of priority as follows: Establish Planning Commission By-Laws Commercial and Industrial District Revisions Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Regulations Unsewered Area Regulations (Ordinance #45) PUD Procedures and Standards R-District Regulations Sign Regulations Adopt Recodified Zoning Ordinance Subdivision Ordinance Amendments (Comprehensive Revisions) And the on-going list should be as follows: Development Application Review Routine Land Use Plan Amendments Routine Zoning Ordinance Amendments Routine Subdivision Ordinance Amendments Training and Educational Planning Workshops Planning Commission/City Council Meeting January 6, 1982 Page 2 e There was some ~iscussion regarding the proposed revisions in Ordinance 45. There were concerns that changing the ordinance might affect the legal suits that are pending because of that ordinance. Hamilton suggested that the City Attorney look into this. Neveaux asked if updating the bylaws had to be a priority. Partridge explained that it is a very high priority because they need to know the rules to go by. The Planning Commission would like to set up some guidelines to follow. Conrad stated that the bylaws will hopefully allow the Planning Commission to get more accomplished because they will have something to go by. Swenson suggested that when the revisions are done there should be a section in the front of the ordinance stating what each chapter is about so that things will not be so hard to find. e Partridge indicated to the City Council that the Planning Commission also would like their opinion as to what type of businesses they would like to have in the B-1 District as shown in the Proposed Revision to the Chanhassen zoning Ordinance. Partridge stated that this area is known as the "gateway to Chanhassen". It is cut off on one side by a railroad track and Highway 5 on the other side. It was asked if the City Council would like to see some sort of a fast-food restaurant in that area. Neveaux stated that he would rather see fast-food restaurants in the area of C.R. 17 and Hwy 5. Horn indicated that he didn't care what went into that area just so that it blends in with the downtown area and didn't distract from the looks of downtown. Conrad suggested that the highway traffic should stay close to the road and out of the downtown area. Maybe gas stations and fast- food restaurants should just be located along the roadside. Neveaux stated that he does not like to see fast-food places in clusters. Maybe the City could adopt a rule that not more than 2 fast-food places in a 5 acre area. An idea was brought up to list only the uses not to be permitted in the B-1 district rather than what is to be permitted. Neveaux stated that he feels the uses listed in the proposed ordinance sound good; he did not like the idea of a negative ordinance. Horn agreed with Neveaux. Chanhassen should be a positive place to build not start out negative. Horn indicated that he would not like to see large signs in the B-1 District; he wouldn't want to distract from the downtown area. e Neveaux indicated that he is generally comfortable with the list of uses for the B-1 District except for #23 which states "Other similar uses as determined by the Zoning Administrator to be of the same general character as this District's permitted uses based upon the legislative intent of this section." Neveaux feels that it should read "as determined by the Planning Commission and City Council." e e e Planning Commission/City Council Meeting January 6, 1982 Page 3 Martin stated that if an applicant comes in and has met all the requirements of the ordinance, he shouldn't have to go thru the long Planning Commission and City Council meetings. Hamilton indicated that he agrees with Neveaux and Horn, anything approved by the staff should go to the City Council on the consent agenda to be approved. Hamilton suggested that the Planning Commission and the City Council read through their Proposed Revision to the Chanhassen Zoning Ordinance books and make any comments of things that should be changed in the margins. After this is finished, send your book to Scott Martin so that he can get a feel for what the City Council and Planning Commission are saying. This should be done by January 18th. The meeting was adjourned at 10:40 p.m.