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Chanhassen Planning Commission Minutes
September 28, 1983
Regular Meeting
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The meeting was called to order at 7:05 p.m.
Members Present
Jim Thompson, Tom Merz, Ladd Conrad, Bill Ryan and Mike Thompson.
Howard Noziska arrived later.
Members Absent
Susan Albee
Zoning and Subdivision Ordinance Revision Worksession
Zack Johnson was present to review ordinance revision materials
distributed during the September 14, 1983 worksession. The
Commission reviewed the Final Preliminary Draft of the
Subdivision Ordinance in its entirety and suggested several minor
modifications. Thge Commission also reviewed proposed Parking
and Loading Area Regulations and the preliminary draft of the PUD
regulations.
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Proposed minimum lot sizes for conventional detached single-
family homes were also discussed. The Commission was split on
the minimum lot size in the proposed R-1B zoning district.
Noziska and Ryan preferred a 12,500 square foot lot size, while
Conrad, M. Thompson, and J. Thompson preferred a 15,000 square
foot minimum. Merz said that he could live with either standard.
No action was taken on this issue, since Commissioner Albee was
absent and no clear consensus was reached in her absence.
The Commission decided unanimously to completely eliminated the
proposed R-1C (7,500 square foot lot minimum size) zoning
district.
Subdivision Request for One Single Family Detached Building Site,
731 West 96th Street, Arthur Bandimere, Public Hearing.
Public Present
Bill Heinlein
Carol Dunsmore
Frank Kurvers
Jack & Monica Swenson
Art Bandimere
Ray King
Rick Denman (Lundgren Bros. Const.)
721 West 96th Street
730 West 96th Street
Chanhassen Road
126 Judith Drive, Chaska
Bandimere Heights
9391 Kiowa Trail
935 E. Wayzata Blvd., Wayzata
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Wiabel presented the staff report and stated that this request is
to subdivide the property to create a .9 acre single family
building site in the southwesterly most corner of the 90 acre
parent parcel. He added that this proposal involves a 1.1 acre
lot area variance and 30 foot lot width variance. He also stated
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that this proposal includes a request to waive platting require-
ments to allow for the subdivision to be recorded by metes and
bounds description.
Bill Heinlein stated that he is concerned on the proposals impact
on the valuation of his property and additionally questioned
whether the planned 201 Project would have sufficient capacity to
accommodate adding this home onto the proposed sewer line.
waibel stated that the house would have to minimally meet the
uniform building code.
Ryan moved, seconded by J. Thompson to close the public hearing,
all voted in favor and the motion carried.
M. Thompson and Merz stated that they had problems in approving a
subdivision with less than the required lot area without knowing
that the proposed sanitary sewer system will indeed be installed.
Chairman Conrad stated that the City Engineer should verify that
the perc tests are adequate and that the property could be able
to accommodate an on-site septic system if the 201 Sewer is not
installed.
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J. Thompson moved, seconded by Noziska, to recommend that the
City Council approve the lot area, lot width and platting
requirement variances requested in Planning Case 83-12
Subdivision with the condition that a septic system including
drain field be installed in accordance with the requirement of
Ordinance lOA in the event that the West 96th Street sewer line
is not installed as scheduled.
All voted in favor and the motion carried.
J. Thompson stated that the reason for dropping staff condition
#1 is that he feels that providing the access along the westerly
side of the property to the north would be providing access to an
area that he feels is environmentally sensitive due to the
existence of the wetland and poor soil conditions north of the
proposed subdivision.
Sign Area Variance Request, Near Mountain PRD, Lundgren
Brothers, Inc.
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Waibel stated that this request was for a 56 square foot sign
area variance to the 24 square foot area limitations for a tem-
porary project identification sign. The proposed sign is to be
constructed on the American Lutheran Church property, for which
Lundgren Brothers have gotten approval from the owner and also
they have an option to purchase this land.
M. Thompson felt that the proposed sign size is reasonable for
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the promotion of the development. He felt that approval would be
reasonable in assisting Lundgren Brothers in getting on with
their project.
M. Thompson moved, seconded by Merz, to recommend approval of the
proposed temporary project identification sign as requested in
Planning Case 83-15 Sign Permit with the condition that the sign
be removed upon completion of construction of 80% of the units
within the development.
All voted in favor and the motion carried.
The Planning Commission suggested that the City Council may con-
sider a condition of renewal of the permit on an annual or
bi-annual basis. Staff was directed to prepare standards for
development and project identification signs that would assist in
the recent promotion of development within the City as part of
the overall Zoning and Subdivision Ordinance revision.
Wetland Ordinance Discussion.
The concept of density credit was briefly discussed. Waibel
indicated that staff recommends that density credits be con-
sidered on a one to one basis to the extent that the proposed
Wetland Ordinance requires that land which would normally be
developed to be set aside for uplands runoff storage basins
and/or set aside for increased setbacks, minimum lot area etc. as
contained in the general regulations section. Such credit would
be based upon the permitted density of the underlying zoning
district.
J. Thompson stated that he feels that as the value of land goes
up there will be less of a tendency to voluntarily set aside
wetlands for part of the overall drainage system.
Due to the lateness of the hour, it was agreed that the overall
discussion of the Wetland Ordinance should be continued at a
following meeting to be scheduled in the next few weeks.
Noziska moved, seconded by J. Thompson to adjourn the meeting.
All voted in favor and the motion carried.
Meeting adjourned at 10:30 p.m.